Re: [PD] seq24 + pd
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 20:30 +0100, danomatika wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, danomatika danomatika at gmail.com wrote: In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I like using seq24 to do sequencing outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job without getting in my way and trying to do too much for me. A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export. Now I can make a song in seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object. Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message the seq24 devs on Launchpad to get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go into the next version of Ubuntu. (that would be nice) looks like a nice approach, so I tried it today. unfortunately i got the same result as similar things I tried before and which involve midi sent over alsa or jack to/from pd: poor timing (irregular) I uploaded this little test file so you can hear what I mean: http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd/test_jack_timing_seq24_pd.ogg I connected seq24 to pd by selecting the 'midi bus' for the sequences. I ran pd -jack and qjackctl, but i did not make any midi connections in qjackctl itself, so I'm not sure if jack even has anything to do with it... I did this on ubuntustudio (hardy) do you get better results ? Tim I've never noticed this before because I don't do any super strict/fast sequencing. Mainly I'm planning on using seq24 to create the midi control sequences that are read and played in pd using the midifile object at show time. Basically I want the flexibility of the interface for composing as opposed to my gop toggle/slider sequence objects but with the same playback directly within pd for live performance. I do not use seq24 on my wearable, the patches should just read the midi songfiles to control whatever is in the patch. hi again, I did a second test, this time in pure:dyne. I took an even simpler pattern and switch between [metro 60] and the 32nd notes coming from [notein] to make the difference more apparent: http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd2/test_timing_pd_seq24_2.ogg gr, Tim So thats about 166.6 bpm with streams of 32nd notes? I did the same test and the seq24 noteons seem to roll. The devs are working on adding jack midi to seq24 which is sample accurate so that should help wait a bit I believe, otherwise jump in and add it. It seems this is a common problem with alsa-based midi anywho. I tried it without jack, and now the timing is a lot better... apparently having jack running has a bad influence on alsa-midi timing. gr, Tim ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] seq24 + pd
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, danomatika danomatika at gmail.com wrote: In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I like using seq24 to do sequencing outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job without getting in my way and trying to do too much for me. A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export. Now I can make a song in seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object. Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message the seq24 devs on Launchpad to get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go into the next version of Ubuntu. (that would be nice) looks like a nice approach, so I tried it today. unfortunately i got the same result as similar things I tried before and which involve midi sent over alsa or jack to/from pd: poor timing (irregular) I uploaded this little test file so you can hear what I mean: http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd/test_jack_timing_seq24_pd.ogg I connected seq24 to pd by selecting the 'midi bus' for the sequences. I ran pd -jack and qjackctl, but i did not make any midi connections in qjackctl itself, so I'm not sure if jack even has anything to do with it... I did this on ubuntustudio (hardy) do you get better results ? Tim I've never noticed this before because I don't do any super strict/fast sequencing. Mainly I'm planning on using seq24 to create the midi control sequences that are read and played in pd using the midifile object at show time. Basically I want the flexibility of the interface for composing as opposed to my gop toggle/slider sequence objects but with the same playback directly within pd for live performance. I do not use seq24 on my wearable, the patches should just read the midi songfiles to control whatever is in the patch. hi again, I did a second test, this time in pure:dyne. I took an even simpler pattern and switch between [metro 60] and the 32nd notes coming from [notein] to make the difference more apparent: http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd2/test_timing_pd_seq24_2.ogg gr, Tim So thats about 166.6 bpm with streams of 32nd notes? I did the same test and the seq24 noteons seem to roll. The devs are working on adding jack midi to seq24 which is sample accurate so that should help wait a bit I believe, otherwise jump in and add it. It seems this is a common problem with alsa-based midi anywho. --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] seq24 + pd
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, danomatika danomatika at gmail.com wrote: In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I like using seq24 to do sequencing outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job without getting in my way and trying to do too much for me. A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export. Now I can make a song in seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object. Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message the seq24 devs on Launchpad to get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go into the next version of Ubuntu. (that would be nice) looks like a nice approach, so I tried it today. unfortunately i got the same result as similar things I tried before and which involve midi sent over alsa or jack to/from pd: poor timing (irregular) I uploaded this little test file so you can hear what I mean: http://www.archive.org/download/TestTimingJackSeq24Pd/test_jack_timing_seq24_pd.ogg I connected seq24 to pd by selecting the 'midi bus' for the sequences. I ran pd -jack and qjackctl, but i did not make any midi connections in qjackctl itself, so I'm not sure if jack even has anything to do with it... I did this on ubuntustudio (hardy) do you get better results ? Tim --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://www.robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list at iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ___ Pd-list at iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] seq24 + pd
In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I like using seq24 to do sequencing outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job without getting in my way and trying to do too much for me. A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on Launchpad. Now I can make a song in seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object. Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message the seq24 devs on Launchpad to get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go into the next version of Ubuntu. (that would be nice) --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] seq24 + pd
Neat! Thanks for sharing your methodology and software. I hope it gets
accepted.
~Kyle
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote:
In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I like
using seq24 to do sequencing
outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job
without getting in my way and trying to
do too much for me.
A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on
Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export.
Now I can make a song in
seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object.
Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message
the seq24 devs on Launchpad to
get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go into
the next version of Ubuntu.
(that would be nice)
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Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com http://www.robotcowboy.com
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Re: [PD] seq24 + pd
thanks a lot for the hints..I was looking for similar approachs Daniel 2009/1/30 Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com Neat! Thanks for sharing your methodology and software. I hope it gets accepted. ~Kyle On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote: In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I like using seq24 to do sequencing outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job without getting in my way and trying to do too much for me. A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export. Now I can make a song in seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object. Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message the seq24 devs on Launchpad to get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go into the next version of Ubuntu. (that would be nice) --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://www.robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
