Low Production Volume Justification

2003-08-15 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
1.  The hardware is upgrading too rapidly.
Sell what you can and then fit it for the next sensor.
2.  Buyers are in a hurry.  (More than the various marketing depts. thought.)
Get the product out before the market place leaves you totally.

Also 
The new Sony DSC-F828 for  $1200
no interchangable lens, but 8MP, Compact Flash, and a long zoom.
Could hurt the low-end DSLRs if they can get it out soon enough
before Christmas.

Collin



Re: Source for used gear

2003-08-15 Thread Boris Liberman
www.keh.com

It seems to have the most respected reputation. It also has quite a 
choice of gear. Finally, their grading is very conservative...

Good hunting.

Boris

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blackout

2003-08-15 Thread Amita Guha
So how did everyone fare in the blackout? I got caught out in it without
my Optio (never doing that again) but I did have half a roll of film in
my Super Program, which I used up before I got to the 59th St. Bridge.
When I got home I shot a roll of long exposures and star trails off my
balcony (how often do you get to do that in NYC?)

Anyway, hope everyone in the Northeast is ok

Amita



Re: ist-D shutter sound (was Re: Japanese IstD site,translation needed)

2003-08-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
How about cheese?


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/14/03 04:59PM 

On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 06:57  AM, Dario Bonazza 2 wrote:

 I believe you can change (or cancel) its (ist D's :-) shutter sound. 
 The
 *ist D I saw (and heard) at Pentax Day featured a funny clickwhirr 
 sound
 (like that of shutter + winder of a film camera).

 Dario Bonazza
 www.aohc.it 



Dario,

Great news if it is so. It seems the sound you heard is not the same as 
what I heard. If there are 3 available sounds (two different shutter 
sounds and none at all) how many options might there be?

Is this an expansion of the digicam feature set—sort of like user 
selectable ringtones for cell phones? That could easily get out of 
hand...while a shutter emulator isn't bad, what if it extends to other 
sounds, tones, tunes or tiny digitized voices chirping gotcha! every 
time you shoot?

Seriously silly food for thought,

Dan Scott





istdee

2003-08-15 Thread Steve Larson
Looks to me like it has the aperture activator mechanism. I saved that jpeg
of the istdee and enlarged it with ACDSee, it`s about 8 0`clock, looks just
like the one in my LX. If that is indeed a mechanical actuator I don`t
understand
why a K or M lenses will not work.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California





Re: Source for used gear

2003-08-15 Thread Rfsindg
Sean,

The best source of used gear in the USA is at www.KEH.com.  The Pentax gear I 
have purchased there has been in fantastic shape and they have more stuff 
than anybody.

As for opinions, discussion, and help spending your money, this list is a 
great resource. g  
 
Almost any flash will work on an ME.  The Pentax AF280T is a favorite and it 
has two manual mode settings which will work fine for your ME and is 
reasonably powerful with a tilt and swivel head.  Quantum makes remote battery packs 
for it.

A Pentax 24mm f2.8 lens would look just fine on the ME.  I like it much 
better than the Pentax M-series 28mm f2.8 lens.  With a $10 Pentax wide angle 
adaptor for the flash, you would have a truely wide angle, night time flash 
photography outfit based on the ME.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I just picked up a ME and am trying to find a place online to purchase
  used equipment. Specifically things like flashes, lenses, etc. This unit
  will be used primarily for night work so wide angle and a good flash w/
  dedicated battery would be a plus.
  
  eBay is an option of course, but a place that has a knowledgeable person
  to field questions and confirm availability would be preferable.



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)

2003-08-15 Thread Keith Whaley
True, Cameron, but I'd like to elaborate a little.
I use one of the older Macs, a 3rd rev. Beige G3 PowerMac, with OS 9.2.1.
I've paid for and maintain a good virus program, and it's always
checking the incoming, but since 1986 I've never got a virus attack!
Well, not quite true, I did get a worm once, but the effects were
mild, and that was perhaps in 1990 (?)
Nothing since then. big grin
I'm very happy with the overall stability of the operating system, and
while not absolutely trouble free, the minor troubles I see from time to
time are miniscule and rather easily fixed or worked around, compared to
Windows problems. 
My problems are with my ISP's stability or the [in]capabilities of the
browser I use, not the OS itself... 
I am not familiar with the latest Windows, such as any of the NT based
ones, but I guess they're quite susceptible to virus attacks.
Good ol' Microsoft!  g

keith whaley

Cameron Hood wrote:
 
 You, obviously, haven't  tried a Mac lately.
 The current virus attracks are ALWAYS against Microsoft software,
 because people are mad as hell and fed up with their crap.
 Get a Mac, and you will have a TOTALLY different computing experience.
 
 C.
 
 I suffered through Windoze from 1995 - 2000. NEVER AGAIN!

[...]



Re: *ist D figures

2003-08-15 Thread whickersworld
T Rittenhouse wrote:

 IIRC Pentax out sold (units) all other SLR makers in the
late 60's early
 70's. Then the plastic cameras came out and Pentax was
late getting into
 that (cheap camera) market.


Surely the problem was more related to Pentax's extreme
tardiness in adopting a bayonet mount?

Photojournalists, who had previously used Spotmatics, got
fed up with dropping their screw mount lenses and missing
shots and deserted 'en masse' to Nikon - and the rest is
history.  Despite the brave LX (a fine effort), Pentax has
never seriously addressed the 35mm pro market since then,
and are unlikely ever to again.

John



Unidentified subject!

2003-08-15 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The news I just read was that the final groups
using OS/2 are switching away.
A good OS, it's now like Gaelic to languages.
A few speak it, but it's not practical to do so.

CRB (who still wears his OS/2 t-shirt to work on occasion)

Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:53:08 +0200 
From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hmmm... maybe it's time for IBM to revive the OS/2? ;) 

Alex Sarbu

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Re: istdee

2003-08-15 Thread Steve Larson
Thanks Arnold. I could live with (very easily) stop down metering
with K lenses, but looks like that is not the case. It is weird that
I can use my M42 1000/8 with stop down metering but not a K
 mount.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: istdee


 The *ist D does not have the aperture simulator coupling ring (you find
 its coupling lever at 2 o'clock on your LX) that is needed so that the
 camera knows how far the lens stops down during exposure. Without this
 ring, and with any lens not in A position, open-aperture measurement
 is not possible. Stop-down metering is possible with srew mount lenses
 or lenses with fully manual aperture like the K500/f4.5 or the K28/f3.5.
 Stop-down metering could also be possible with all lenses, if Pentax had
 programmed the *ist D's meter to work when DOF preview is activated.
 Unfortunately, Pentax did something else: In aperture priority mode the
 meter works but the aperture  always stays fully open. In manual mode
 the meter does not work but the lens stops down during exposure.

 Arnold

 Steve Larson schrieb:

 Looks to me like it has the aperture activator mechanism. I saved that
jpeg of the istdee and enlarged it with ACDSee, it`s about 8 0`clock, looks
just like the one in my LX. If that is indeed a mechanical actuator I don`t
understand
 why a K or M lenses will not work. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
 
 




Lx winder battery trays/ Nicad pack/LX strap post

2003-08-15 Thread Clive evans
Jose
Many thanksyou are a real gentleman.
Peter/Cotty
Coincidentally one of my LXs is at  Asahi Photo  this week for a service.
Whilst the guys there are really nice they don't accept any work on motors
or winders [they say they can't get the parts]
I have also asked them for a spare LX lug[or two] to do a grip modification
a la LX 2000 but they didn't seem to have anything.
Peter..any sign of thse ever appearing again?
Or has anyone else got a source?
Best
Clive
Antibes
France



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)

2003-08-15 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Hmmm... maybe it's time for IBM to revive the OS/2? ;)

Alex Sarbu

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)


 On 14 Aug 2003 at 15:00, Cameron Hood wrote:

  You, obviously, haven't  tried a Mac lately.
  The current virus attracks are ALWAYS against Microsoft software,
  because people are mad as hell and fed up with their crap.
  Get a Mac, and you will have a TOTALLY different computing experience.

 I guess many of us would rather the experience of an occasional virus than
have
 to completely modify our PC desk-top modus operandi.

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998





Re: Puking Euphemisms (WAS: please comment)

2003-08-15 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Hi Antti-Pekka,

I know this is a hell of a cheek but if you have the time could you take a
look at my Finnish pages and if you see any glaring mistakes let me know?
Especially the technical words. We were a bit worried about part IV in
particular.

Don
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Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: July 31, 2003


- Original Message -
From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Puking Euphemisms (WAS: please comment)


 At 07:36 15.8.2003 +0200, you wrote:
 William Robb:
 
  My wife was driving (my) car back from the cabin one day and had this
  encounter with a moose, I couldn't believe the damage to my car, or
how my
  wife survived.  She is 5'2 and I am 6'2, I would have been
decapitated,
  somehow she managed to get below the dash level and survived.
 
 I have heard that a bull moose can weigh in at close to a tonne, and a
cow
 just a few hundred kilos lighter.
 
 A friend of mine hit a moose a couple of weeks ago with a van.
 Had it been a smaller car she probably wouldn't live today.
 
   http://mail2url.smalltalk.se/20030726-220203-2.jpg
   http://mail2url.smalltalk.se/20030726-220203-1.jpg

 If anyone remembers I told almost 2 years back we'd hit one with
 our 4x4 Mitsubishi Pajero. Back then I think I called the thing
 an elk but now that I know better I prolly should have explained it
 to our American friends as moose ;-)

 ...
 In http://experiencewyoming.com/wildlife.elk-moose.htm:
 If you're from the United States , there is no confusion between elk and
moose.
 Moose are the bigger ones with the big flat antlers that are loners and
eat
 water plants.  Elk are just a tad smaller and have antlers that look like
 tree branches and they hang around in herds grazing.  No problem.

 But the animal we call moose (Alces alces) in the U.S. is called an elk in
Europe.
 And scientists refer to our elk (Cervus elaphus) as Wapiti (a native
American term)
 to avoid confusion.  So, if you are from Europe be sure to point at the
animal you
 know as an elk and call it a moose.

 The important thing is that elk and moose know who they are.
 And they are rarely confused about the issue. 
 ...

 In any case, all this talk has opened some dreadful memories of
 the accident, especially since the hunting season is close and
 the elk (US: moose, Finnish: Hirvi) are starting to run more wildly
 once again... So, everyone living in danger areas please drive careful
 and drop your speed when you see the warning sign.

 I don't think we have the US elk over here but the smaller ones we have
 are reindeer, deer and white-tailed deer (I hope these names are
 correctly understood in all parts of the world ;-).

 Antti-Pekka

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RE: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread Amita Guha
Will do, although I didn't actually have a view of Manhattan. :) I was
doing other goofy things like tracking people walking with flashlights
and shots of lit windows.

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: blackout
 
 
 I was thinking about that (stars over Manhattan) last night 
 as I watched CNN.  Be sure to post those star trails when you 
 get them developed.



Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread Jonathan Donald
Um,

I'm probably not the first one to think of this, but
if you have a K or M lens that you just ~must~ use
with the *ist D, why not remove the aperture coupling
arm??? It would effectively turn it into a manual
diaphragm lens. Of course it would be a shame to do
this to a really nice lens like the K-15/3.5 or
K-18/3.5, but I would have no qualms crippling a
K-55/1.8 for a fine 82.5mm portrait lens that is known
for being a bit soft wide open :-)




Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:26:47 +0200
From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: istdee
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The *ist D does not have the aperture simulator
coupling ring (you find 
its coupling lever at 2 o'clock on your LX) that is
needed so that the 
camera knows how far the lens stops down during
exposure. Without this 
ring, and with any lens not in A position,
open-aperture measurement 
is not possible. Stop-down metering is possible with
srew mount lenses 
or lenses with fully manual aperture like the
K500/f4.5 or the 
K28/f3.5. 
Stop-down metering could also be possible with all
lenses, if Pentax 
had 
programmed the *ist D's meter to work when DOF preview
is activated. 
Unfortunately, Pentax did something else: In aperture
priority mode the 
meter works but the aperture  always stays fully open.
In manual mode 
the meter does not work but the lens stops down during
exposure.

Arnold

Steve Larson schrieb:

Looks to me like it has the aperture activator
mechanism. I saved that 
jpeg of the istdee and enlarged it with ACDSee, it`s
about 8 0`clock, 
looks just like the one in my LX. If that is indeed a
mechanical 
actuator I don`t understand
why a K or M lenses will not work. Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, 
California


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Re: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread brooksdj
We're ok here.Food still cool and we have some too:).Have propane for the Q too.
Now if i can just buy some gas.:(

Dave  

 So how did everyone fare in the blackout? I got 
caught out in it without
 my Optio (never doing that again) but I did have half a roll of film in
 my Super Program, which I used up before I got to the 59th St. Bridge.
 When I got home I shot a roll of long exposures and star trails off my
 balcony (how often do you get to do that in NYC?)
 
 Anyway, hope everyone in the Northeast is ok
 
 Amita
 






Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Aug 2003 at 7:33, Jonathan Donald wrote:

 Um,
 
 I'm probably not the first one to think of this, but
 if you have a K or M lens that you just ~must~ use
 with the *ist D, why not remove the aperture coupling
 arm??? It would effectively turn it into a manual
 diaphragm lens. Of course it would be a shame to do
 this to a really nice lens like the K-15/3.5 or
 K-18/3.5, but I would have no qualms crippling a
 K-55/1.8 for a fine 82.5mm portrait lens that is known
 for being a bit soft wide open :-)

Would have been much nicer if Pentax just put one in the camera, no?

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



RE: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread brooksdj
I was to tired and had to many panicy people around last night,but if they are
still off tonight,which sounds like it might be for the weekend up her in the GWN i'll 
set
up the 
tripod too.

Dave

 Will do, although I didn't actually have a view of 
Manhattan. :) 
I was
 doing other goofy things like tracking people walking with flashlights
 and shots of lit windows.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:35 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: blackout
  
  
  I was thinking about that (stars over Manhattan) last night 
  as I watched CNN.  Be sure to post those star trails when you 
  get them developed.
 






RE: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread Brendan
too many bon fires here to try star trails, and a full
moon. But I saw mars!

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I was to tired and
had to many panicy people around
 last night,but if they are
 still off tonight,which sounds like it might be for
 the weekend up her in the GWN i'll set
 up the 
 tripod too.
 
 Dave  
 
Will do, although I didn't actually have a view
 of Manhattan. :) 
 I was
  doing other goofy things like tracking people
 walking with flashlights
  and shots of lit windows.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Steve Desjardins
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:35 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: blackout
   
   
   I was thinking about that (stars over Manhattan)
 last night 
   as I watched CNN.  Be sure to post those star
 trails when you 
   get them developed.
  
 
   
 
  

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Re: istdee

2003-08-15 Thread Jim Apilado
Ah, yes.  I recall when word first came out about the *ist-D how many of you
were all excited that you would be able to use that great Pentax glass with
the camera.  Now it depends on when you bought some of that Pentax glass
before you can use it on the D.  Now we'll see if Pentax comes out with a
high end dslr that will take all of the K-mount lenses and have them
operate normally on it.  Or perhaps Fuji could come out with a dslr that
would take K-mount lenses.  That would be some competition for Pentax.

Jim A.

 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 05:50:54 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: istdee 
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:50:59 -0400
 
 Looks to me like it has the aperture activator mechanism. I saved that jpeg
 of the istdee and enlarged it with ACDSee, it`s about 8 0`clock, looks just
 like the one in my LX. If that is indeed a mechanical actuator I don`t
 understand
 why a K or M lenses will not work.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 
 
 



Fuji 100/1000 question

2003-08-15 Thread Albano Garcia

Hi gang
I wanted to know if somebody has experience using this
film. I'm interested in cross-processing it, and
pushing it. My question is: would be comparable the
push process for E6 and C41. If I expose it at 400,
can I have it processed C41 with 2 stops push (I know
people says C41 don't push, but well, I ask anyway. I
use a pro lab, wich gives more time when pushing,
real pushing), can I expect good results, or
processes are so different than pushes are not equal?
I hope you understand what I'm asking.
Regards

Albano

 

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El Pibe Asahi

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Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)

2003-08-15 Thread Cotty
True, Cameron, but I'd like to elaborate a little.
I use one of the older Macs, a 3rd rev. Beige G3 PowerMac, with OS 9.2.1.
I've paid for and maintain a good virus program, and it's always
checking the incoming, but since 1986 I've never got a virus attack!
Well, not quite true, I did get a worm once, but the effects were
mild, and that was perhaps in 1990 (?)
Nothing since then. big grin

Keith, you should try OS X - stability like you wouldn't believe. And a
nice bonus, I use 'Safari' - Apple's own web browser (still in beta) and
so have rid myself of all MS software on my Macs. Having said that, the
Mac team at MS do a very good job - IE 5.x is no slouch and I used it in
preference to Netscrape or iCab or Mozilla.

Th Windows SAN virus is now eating into a lot of British PCs - I filmed
at Sophos (UK anti-virus company) this morning re the virus, later at PC
World (like CompUSA) where they were besieged with customers carrying
towers waiting in line to drop them off to be de-bugged for a few pennies
short of twenty quid.

While waiting to film the interviews I went over and cleaned up all the
Macintosh desktops, getting rid of nonesense and setting mouse speeds and
sizes to something half-decent ;-) Gotta keep the side up!




Cheers,
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RE: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread Butch Black
I got lucky. I was on the fringe of it and was without power for only about
1½ hours. 15 miles west in Stamford they were powerless well into the
evening.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hess (Demian)




Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
I have a question:

Is the security for Macs better than Windows or does no one really
bother to write viruses that attack them?


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Keith Whaley


Steve Desjardins wrote:
 
 I have a question:
 
 Is the security for Macs better than Windows or does no one really
 bother to write viruses that attack them?

IMMHO, both.
 
 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
 Washington and Lee University
 Lexington, VA 24450
 (540) 458-8873
 FAX: (540) 458-8878
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Keith Whaley



RE: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread brooksdj
My area is still out.Work has some power now.Gas is sporatic and the lines are HUGE.I 
have
enough
to get home,then hope for our area to get on line.

Dave   

 I got lucky. I was on the fringe of it and was 
without power for only
abo ut
 1½ hours. 15 miles west in Stamford they were powerless well into the
 evening.
 
 Butch
 
 Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.
 
 Hermann Hess (Demian)
 
 







Wide Angle Lens Recommendations?

2003-08-15 Thread Patrick Wunsch
Hello,

I am looking for a decent wide angle lens, perhaps something in the 18mm to
20mm range, and would like to hear your recommendations.  Money is major
consideration as is quality.  I have looked at the Vivitar, Samyang,
Phoenix, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina lenses.  I would like to stay under $250
US.  Would you recommend or not recommend any of the above brands?  I am not
opposed to a zoom lens either but would like to have at least a 20mm angle.
Thanks for your input, I truly appreciate it!

Pat Wunsch




For sale Friday

2003-08-15 Thread Camdir
I am afraid I am becoming tired of this ornament:

1000mm SMC K F8 , case, tripod, best offer over £99.

BTW, shipping anywhere is £300. No collection :)

Kind regards

Peter



Re: Wide Angle Lens Recommendations?

2003-08-15 Thread Anders Hultman
Patrick Wunsch:

I am looking for a decent wide angle lens, perhaps something in the 18mm to
20mm range, and would like to hear your recommendations.  Money is major
consideration as is quality.  I have looked at the Vivitar, Samyang,
Phoenix, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina lenses.  I would like to stay under $250
US.  Would you recommend or not recommend any of the above brands?  I am not
opposed to a zoom lens either but would like to have at least a 20mm angle.
Thanks for your input, I truly appreciate it!
I just bought a 19-35 mm zoom from Soligor for the equivalent of USD 
190 (plus sales tax) and have taken a couple of shots with it but 
have not yet seen the results. I'll tell you on the list when I get 
the prints.

I also have a couple of Vivitar and Tokina lenses both in the 
moderate wide angle range and in other ranges that have served me 
well. Maybe a little bit of vignetting under bad light conditions, 
but robust and with a good overall feel.

anders
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http://anders.hultman.nu/


RE: Source for used gear

2003-08-15 Thread Sean Winters
Thanks Boris and Bob.

I looked around their site and it looks like a place to get rid of a lot of money. =) 

Appreciate your input.

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Source for used gear

www.keh.com

It seems to have the most respected reputation. It also has quite a 
choice of gear. Finally, their grading is very conservative...

Good hunting.

Boris

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Re: For sale Friday

2003-08-15 Thread Andre Langevin
I am afraid I am becoming tired of this ornament:

1000mm SMC K F8 , case, tripod, best offer over £99.

BTW, shipping anywhere is £300. No collection :)

Kind regards

Peter
Have you tried eBay?  It sells near 1000 US $ over there if I 
remember well.  And, by the way, it's a very good lens.

Andre
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Vs: help with choosing a camera

2003-08-15 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Hi Terhi,
MZ-S is great. There´s a short evaluation on my site. I like it, it has grown on me.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

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Lähettäjä: Terhi Toivola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Aihe: help with choosing a camera


hi all,

I'm an intermediate amateur (not quite advanced yet, neither beginner
anymore) photoaddict in the need of a new (film, not digital) camera. I
have a  p50/p5 and some manual focus lenses (20-80 zoom, 50-mm and a
sigma macro), which I would, of course,  like to use with the new body
too. I usually shoot still-life, portaits etc.,  not very much anything
with a lot of action, possibly because I'm finding it a bit difficult
with manual focus... also I'm getting a bit tired of dragging the heavy
p50 around, and its poor ergonomy and lack of a flash.

I'm wavering in hesitation between MZ-S, *ist and PZ-1P - opinions
please? Other suggestions?

My budget is max 1000 € with a simple lense, 50 mm perhaps as the old
one is not very good. I dream of a 100 mm macro, but I suspect that's
far out of my budget... I would like the camera be solid to hold, not
too light and flimsy, and with a good bight viewfinder, hopefully
suitable for person wearing glasses.

Also I need a flash, but  later on when I manage to raise the funds for

that. Until then, the built-in will have to do. However, suggestions
are  welcome. I don't really understand much of flashes, so I would be
perfectly happy with a point-and-shoot type, and if it works with the
old p50 all the better.

Terhi



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Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Keith Whaley


Cotty wrote:
 
 True, Cameron, but I'd like to elaborate a little.
 I use one of the older Macs, a 3rd rev. Beige G3 PowerMac, with OS 9.2.1.
 I've paid for and maintain a good virus program, and it's always
 checking the incoming, but since 1986 I've never got a virus attack!
 Well, not quite true, I did get a worm once, but the effects were
 mild, and that was perhaps in 1990 (?)
 Nothing since then. big grin
 
 Keith, you should try OS X - stability like you wouldn't believe. 

So I've heard, for the more recent incantations thereof.
I'm toying with the idea of getting a G4 tower, with OSX 10.2x (and
Classic) already installed, maybe a dual processor version, however they
come, 500 mhz, 800 mhz...whatever. Need a  faster machine (mine's 300 mhz!)

 And a nice bonus, I use 'Safari' - Apple's own web browser (still in beta) 

I have read numerous posts about the instability of Safari, and in
earlier versions, some folks even lost or had severly messed up hard
drives. Apple does have problems with beta versions of most of their
stuff, as I recall.
You like Safari better than Communicator? Or Mozilla, for that matter?

 and so have rid myself of all MS software on my Macs. Having said that,
 the Mac team at MS do a very good job - IE 5.x is no slouch and I used it
 in preference to Netscrape or iCab or Mozilla.

IE5 in preference to anything is a wonder!
I tried it just once, and finally managed to eliminate it from my hard drive.
For one thing, like all MS products, it absolutely takes over your computer!
It's amazing the places it inserts this or that fragment of itself!

How do you like PowerMail 4.1.3?
It replaced what?  Worth the $49 (well, that's U.S. ainit) ?
 
 Th Windows SAN virus is now eating into a lot of British PCs - I filmed
 at Sophos (UK anti-virus company) this morning re the virus, later at PC
 World (like CompUSA) where they were besieged with customers carrying
 towers waiting in line to drop them off to be de-bugged for a few pennies
 short of twenty quid.
 
 While waiting to film the interviews I went over... 

Where? At PC World?

...and cleaned up all the Macintosh desktops, getting rid of nonesense
 and setting mouse speeds and sizes to something half-decent ;-) Gotta 
 keep the side up!

 Cheers,
   Cotty

keith



Re: Wide Angle Lens Recommendations?

2003-08-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pat,

On a budget, this is actually quite a good lens - especially stopped
down a bit:
http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/mfl-08.html

I believe it is within your budget range and is better corrected for
distortion than the low cost wide zooms.


Bruce



Friday, August 15, 2003, 10:37:07 AM, you wrote:

PW Hello,

PW I am looking for a decent wide angle lens, perhaps something in the 18mm to
PW 20mm range, and would like to hear your recommendations.  Money is major
PW consideration as is quality.  I have looked at the Vivitar, Samyang,
PW Phoenix, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina lenses.  I would like to stay under $250
PW US.  Would you recommend or not recommend any of the above brands?  I am not
PW opposed to a zoom lens either but would like to have at least a 20mm angle.
PW Thanks for your input, I truly appreciate it!

PW Pat Wunsch




Re: For sale Friday

2003-08-15 Thread Camdir


 Have you tried eBay?  It sells near 1000 US $ over there if I 
 remember well.  

What's ebay?









Only kidding. It's late and I am tired, having shipped over 100 items this 
week; posted 10 or so NPBs, etc etc etc. 

Kind regards

Peter



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)

2003-08-15 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 10:49  AM, Cotty wrote:

Keith, you should try OS X - stability like you wouldn't believe. And a
nice bonus, I use 'Safari' - Apple's own web browser (still in beta) 
and
so have rid myself of all MS software on my Macs. Having said that, the
Mac team at MS do a very good job - IE 5.x is no slouch and I used it 
in
preference to Netscrape or iCab or Mozilla.



I also use Safaribtw, non-beta vers. 1.0 has been out for a little 
while now.

The fact that Safari is designed to work with OS X by the people who 
wrote OS X is killer (see http://www.apple.com/applescript/safari/ for 
some of the perks). Pre Safari I preferred Mozilla and iCab over 
I.E.the only problems I ever had were with websites that were designed 
exclusively for I.E. (Microsoft's lovely embrace and exclude policy).

Right now, there are more good browser options for Macs than ever 
before (see http://www.macorchard.com/)

While waiting to film the interviews I went over and cleaned up all the
Macintosh desktops, getting rid of nonesense and setting mouse speeds 
and
sizes to something half-decent ;-) Gotta keep the side up!

Me, too!

Dan Scott



Re: Wide Angle Lens Recommendations?

2003-08-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Wunsch
Subject: Wide Angle Lens Recommendations?


 Hello,

 I am looking for a decent wide angle lens, perhaps something in the 18mm
to
 20mm range, and would like to hear your recommendations.  Money is major
 consideration as is quality.  I have looked at the Vivitar, Samyang,
 Phoenix, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina lenses.  I would like to stay under $250
 US.  Would you recommend or not recommend any of the above brands?  I am
not
 opposed to a zoom lens either but would like to have at least a 20mm
angle.
 Thanks for your input, I truly appreciate it!

I have an old Tokina (SD?) 17mm f/3.5 that is pretty good. The Tamron 17mm
manual focus is very good.
The Pentax A20mm f/2.8 is probably the most desirable lens in that range at
the moment, and is excellent.

William Robb



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Desjardins
Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)


 I have a question:

 Is the security for Macs better than Windows or does no one really
 bother to write viruses that attack them?

According to my computer guy, no one bothers to write virus to attack Macs,
since there are so few of them, it wouldn't cause any disruption.
If someone really wanted to write a script to take out a Mac, it wouldn't be
any more difficult than writing one for PC, and probably easier.
But no one would notice, so it wouldn't be any fun.
The virus writer wants to create as much harm as possible, hence they write
script to take down the most machines possible.

William Robb



Re: *ist D figures

2003-08-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: whickersworld
Subject: Re: *ist D figures




 Surely the problem was more related to Pentax's extreme
 tardiness in adopting a bayonet mount?

 Photojournalists, who had previously used Spotmatics, got
 fed up with dropping their screw mount lenses and missing
 shots and deserted 'en masse' to Nikon - and the rest is
 history.  Despite the brave LX (a fine effort), Pentax has
 never seriously addressed the 35mm pro market since then,
 and are unlikely ever to again.

Actually, photojournalists who had previously used Leica discovered Nikon
during the American occupation of Japan, and into the Korean war.
Pentax was never in the picture.

William Robb



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)

2003-08-15 Thread Herb Chong
i am still with Win98 because i still run some software that won't work right on 2000 
or XP.

Herb
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From: zoomshot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 18:30
Subject: RE: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)


 Well get XP, been running here for over a year with no problems





Re: shooting the moon at less than infinity

2003-08-15 Thread Herb Chong
the infinity focus point assumes a specific temperature. if hotter or colder, the 
actual point moves somewhere else on the scale, depending on the lens. longer lens are 
more affected than shorter ones.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 19:29
Subject: shooting the moon at less than infinity


 So last night the moon was out and it looked quite stunning without any
 light pollution, so I stuck my Sigma 400mm f5.6 on my Super Program and
 took some shots. The weird thing is that at infinity, the moon was out
 of focus. It was in focus somewhere before infinity. Is this common when
 shooting the moon? I thought it was odd but I shot it the way it
 appeared in focus in the viewfinder.





Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Cotty
Is the security for Macs better than Windows or does no one really
bother to write viruses that attack them?

The prize for downing MS is much greater - more harm done. There are Mac
viruses out there, but relatively few. AFAIK the security of the OS is a
moot point, MS or Mac.




Cheers,
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Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Cotty
Hi Keith,


I have read numerous posts about the instability of Safari, and in
earlier versions, some folks even lost or had severly messed up hard
drives. Apple does have problems with beta versions of most of their
stuff, as I recall.
You like Safari better than Communicator? Or Mozilla, for that matter?

I have never used Communicator (see below). But essentially yes. It's
cute. I have had only a few problems with various web sites (still in
beta don't forget).


IE5 in preference to anything is a wonder!
I tried it just once, and finally managed to eliminate it from my hard drive.
For one thing, like all MS products, it absolutely takes over your computer!
It's amazing the places it inserts this or that fragment of itself!

This is true.


How do you like PowerMail 4.1.3?

It does more or less what I want. A very simple email app, but with some
excellent features.

It replaced what?  Worth the $49 (well, that's U.S. ainit) ?

Claris Emailer. I have never used Communicator or Outlook Express. Too
big for me. Very much worth $49. Swiss company, already had one major
upgrade from them. 1st class.

 While waiting to film the interviews I went over... 

Where? At PC World?

...and cleaned up all the Macintosh desktops, getting rid of nonesense
 and setting mouse speeds and sizes to something half-decent ;-) Gotta 
 keep the side up!

Yes. If I see some Macs on sale, I always go over and set the desktops so
that anyone coming up to look at them will have an easy time. There's
nothing like computers on display in a store for getting all messed up by
kids and dorks :-)



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm still without power - going into hour 29 - it's starting to grate on my
nerves.  Currently over at my folks place trying to catch up and cool off.

Cheers
Dave

Original Message:
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:58:33 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: blackout


snip
I came home at about 6;00 with some non-perishable food (found a working
bank machine today), and my power is finally back on.  We were without for
over 24 hours.  Now I have to go back to the cafe to drink the rest of the
beer.
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Off for a week and a bit

2003-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ta for about a week and change.

I'll be hitting Connecticut and New York City over the next week.
Of course there will be a standard visit to Adorama and BH but I don't
know if I'll have the coin to actually buy something... but where there's a
will, there's a way.

Cheers
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Re: Fuji 100/1000 question

2003-08-15 Thread Cameron Hood
Its been discontinued. I tried it once, and found it very contrasty. 
Don't know about your cross processing question, though.

C.

On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 11:51  AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:49:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fuji 100/1000 question
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi gang
I wanted to know if somebody has experience using this
film. I'm interested in cross-processing it, and
pushing it. My question is: would be comparable the
push process for E6 and C41. If I expose it at 400,
can I have it processed C41 with 2 stops push (I know
people says C41 don't push, but well, I ask anyway. I
use a pro lab, wich gives more time when pushing,
real pushing), can I expect good results, or
processes are so different than pushes are not equal?
I hope you understand what I'm asking.
Regards
Albano



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Re: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Cameron Hood
 A bit of both. OSX has superb onboard encription which is about to 
get even better, and Macs are notoriously difficult to write viruses 
for, anyway, EXCEPT for the Microsoft software which we can now, 
thankfully, avoid. There are a few Mac viruses out there set to go 
against Outlook Express and Internet Exploder, but they are rare, and 
now with the latest version of OSX, we have a dedicated mail and 
browser program integrated into the operating system, so we need no 
longer rely on the evil empire. And a new release of OSX is slated for 
the fall, with built in faxing.

Macs are fabulous, and as a former Windoze user who has switched, I 
personally will never go back. Photoshop, with Mac's Coloursync 
controlling the colour consistency from scanner to monitor to printer, 
running in a Native OSX environment with symmetrical dual-processing 
and a gig and a half of RAM - YAHOO! BTW, the new mac G5's will take up 
to 8 gigs of ram, have dual 2 GHZ processors, each with 1 gig frontside 
busses. Smokin'!

Do yourself a favour - get one - they are not just better for 
graphics, or video, or music, they are just better machines for 
everything, they really are.

Cameron

On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 11:51  AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:38:06 -0400
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)
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I have a question:

Is the security for Macs better than Windows or does no one really
bother to write viruses that attack them?
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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RE: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)

2003-08-15 Thread Cotty
Well get XP, been running here for over a year with no problems

Commiserations, friend.




Cheers,
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Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Cotty
If someone really wanted to write a script to take out a Mac, it wouldn't be
any more difficult than writing one for PC, and probably easier.
But no one would notice, so it wouldn't be any fun.

No one except the 5 million Mac users world wide ;-)




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Re: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Herb Chong
sorry, there aren't any GIS/CAD applications for the Mac worth using.

Herb

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From: Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 21:20
Subject: Re: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)


  Do yourself a favour - get one - they are not just better for 
 graphics, or video, or music, they are just better machines for 
 everything, they really are.
 
  Cameron





Re: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread Kathleen
I work at a hospital, and everything is OK now.  After the blackout started
we went on auxiliary power, but only certain areas (where power was most
urgently needed) had the power.  The worst thing was yet to come:  No Water.
That was terrible.  we had to bring in lots and lots of bottled water for
drinking, and a fire department brought some water for the reservoir for
patient bathrooms.  It was so hot, and with no A/C, we had to get fans
running in the hallways.  Everyone worked so hard to make the patients as
comfortable as possible.

The power came back on this morning, but the water was out until this
afternoon.  It isn't drinkable, though, and has to be boiled before use for
the next two days.  We were told to conserve power wherever we could all day
and were told to use the water very sparingly (once it came back on).
However, our city at this very moment is having a baseball game and a
football game.  No one told them they had to conserve power and water in
those huge stadiums.  Go figure!

Kathy
- Original Message -
From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:03 AM
Subject: blackout


 So how did everyone fare in the blackout?




Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
Well, I can tell you you can use your M lens on an *istD. There is no
metering because the camera has no mechanical coupling to tell it what
aperture is set on the lens. But if you are willing to use your hand-held
meter (or you could use trial and error, checking it with the LED image) it
works fine. All you have to do is set the custom funtion that allows shutter
release out of A mode. The default is set so idiots can not mess up by
making a non-metered exposure. It also worked in program mode with my 3rd
party KA lens, no problem.  The *istD is a very neat camera. It has the best
viewfinder I have seen in a DSLR (I have handled the D100, S2, D60, 
EOS1D), it is about the same apparent size and brightness as the MZ series
35mm cameras (remember the sensor is smaller than 35mm so the viewfinder
needs higher magnification to give the same apparent size). The prototype
available for us to play with has a problem with power management. That will
be fixed in the production cameras. I think it is the best of the sub $2000
DSLRs. At $1699 I think they are going to sell faster than they can make
them.

I am home tonight from GFM because my air mattress suffered blowout last
night. Living only 30 minutes away I decided I liked the idea of a soft bed
and a hot shower better than the hard cold floor of my Blazer. Got to get up
early and return in the morning so I don't miss anything.

I hear all you folks to the north have been having quite an adventure.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: Cripple your K  M lenses for the Cripple Mount


 Um,

 I'm probably not the first one to think of this, but
 if you have a K or M lens that you just ~must~ use
 with the *ist D, why not remove the aperture coupling
 arm??? It would effectively turn it into a manual
 diaphragm lens. Of course it would be a shame to do
 this to a really nice lens like the K-15/3.5 or
 K-18/3.5, but I would have no qualms crippling a
 K-55/1.8 for a fine 82.5mm portrait lens that is known
 for being a bit soft wide open :-)




 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:26:47 +0200
 From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: istdee
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 format=flowed
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 The *ist D does not have the aperture simulator
 coupling ring (you find
 its coupling lever at 2 o'clock on your LX) that is
 needed so that the
 camera knows how far the lens stops down during
 exposure. Without this
 ring, and with any lens not in A position,
 open-aperture measurement
 is not possible. Stop-down metering is possible with
 srew mount lenses
 or lenses with fully manual aperture like the
 K500/f4.5 or the
 K28/f3.5.
 Stop-down metering could also be possible with all
 lenses, if Pentax
 had
 programmed the *ist D's meter to work when DOF preview
 is activated.
 Unfortunately, Pentax did something else: In aperture
 priority mode the
 meter works but the aperture  always stays fully open.
 In manual mode
 the meter does not work but the lens stops down during
 exposure.

 Arnold

 Steve Larson schrieb:

 Looks to me like it has the aperture activator
 mechanism. I saved that
 jpeg of the istdee and enlarged it with ACDSee, it`s
 about 8 0`clock,
 looks just like the one in my LX. If that is indeed a
 mechanical
 actuator I don`t understand
 why a K or M lenses will not work. Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach,
 California


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Re: istD release with lens M

2003-08-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
I tried my M50/1.7 on the a prototype at GFM. The lens will stop down
normally. Normal operation is not to allow the shutter to fire, the custom
function over rides that idiot-proof feature. The camera can not meter in
that mode because it has no idea what aperture is set on the lens, but
everything else works.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Hans Imglueck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: istD release with lens M


 That's what I'm assuming.

 --- Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hans, by release I am assuming you mean that when you press
 the shutter button, you get a shot.  True?
 
 Hans Imglueck wrote:
  If it is set to on then the camera will release, when a lens
  is set to manual aperture (aperture ring not in A mode, which is always
  the case for M/K lenses) otherwise the camera will not release.
  Note: When the aperture ring is not in A mode, the lens will be always
  wide open during exposure.

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Re: ist-D shutter sound (was Re: Japanese IstD site, translation needed)

2003-08-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
The camera is reasonably quiet.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: ist-D shutter sound (was Re: Japanese IstD site, translation
needed)


 On 14 Aug 2003 at 15:59, Dan Scott wrote:

  Great news if it is so. It seems the sound you heard is not the same as
  what I heard. If there are 3 available sounds (two different shutter
  sounds and none at all) how many options might there be?

 My Oly E-10 ZSLR has no mirror so it is virtually silent however it has
 optional simulated shutter sounds which I generally only invoke when
shooting
 cheezy people shots (so they have a little acoustic feedback). So if what
has
 been mentioned is correct then the *ist D has electronic shutter sounds to
 augment the natural mirror slap? I don't get it?

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: istdee

2003-08-15 Thread Jim Apilado
When the Voightlander name was resurrected using the old Leica screw mount
lenses,  I wondered how many of those ancient lenses were still around to
use on the cameras.  I have a IIIg Leica and a couple of screw mount lenses
that suddenly were more valuable because of the new V cameras.

I have a lot of the ancient SMC Takumars that I may or may not be able to
use on the *ist-D.  I have a few K and M lenses that I got new when I bought
my LX.  When the *ist-D was announced I was anticipating being able to use
these ancient K and M lenses on it.  I would probably pick up newer lenses
for the *ist-D especially is one of new lenses had IS.

The way Canon comes out with a new model digital SLR every six months or so,
it is possible to get an older D30 and D60 sometimes for less than a $1000.
Buy an IS 28-135mm zoom for one of those models and you have a camera-lens
combination that would be less spendy than getting the Pentax and its
companion zoom.

Jim A.

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 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:30:43 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: istdee
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:30:51 -0400
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 August 2003 16:18
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: istdee
 
 
 Ah, yes.  I recall when word first came out about the *ist-D how many of you
 were all excited that you would be able to use that great Pentax glass with
 the camera.  Now it depends on when you bought some of that Pentax glass
 before you can use it on the D.  Now we'll see if Pentax comes out with a
 high end dslr that will take all of the K-mount lenses and have them
 operate normally on it.  Or perhaps Fuji could come out with a dslr that
 would take K-mount lenses.  That would be some competition for Pentax.
 
 Jim A.
 
 Why should any Pentax DSLR support ancient lenses?
 
 
 



Re: blackout

2003-08-15 Thread Jim Apilado
Iraqis must be having a good laugh as they see the NE trying to restore
power.  If we can't fix our system to prevent these blackouts,  can we fix
their infrastructure for electricity?

Jim A.

 From: Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:12:35 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: blackout
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:12:36 -0400
 
 I work at a hospital, and everything is OK now.  After the blackout started
 we went on auxiliary power, but only certain areas (where power was most
 urgently needed) had the power.  The worst thing was yet to come:  No Water.
 That was terrible.  we had to bring in lots and lots of bottled water for
 drinking, and a fire department brought some water for the reservoir for
 patient bathrooms.  It was so hot, and with no A/C, we had to get fans
 running in the hallways.  Everyone worked so hard to make the patients as
 comfortable as possible.
 
 The power came back on this morning, but the water was out until this
 afternoon.  It isn't drinkable, though, and has to be boiled before use for
 the next two days.  We were told to conserve power wherever we could all day
 and were told to use the water very sparingly (once it came back on).
 However, our city at this very moment is having a baseball game and a
 football game.  No one told them they had to conserve power and water in
 those huge stadiums.  Go figure!
 
 Kathy
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 From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:03 AM
 Subject: blackout
 
 
 So how did everyone fare in the blackout?
 
 



Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread Jim Apilado
How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?

Jim A.

 From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:27:29 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cripple your K  M lenses for the Cripple Mount
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:27:43 -0400
 
 Well, I can tell you you can use your M lens on an *istD. There is no
 metering because the camera has no mechanical coupling to tell it what
 aperture is set on the lens. But if you are willing to use your hand-held
 meter (or you could use trial and error, checking it with the LED image) it
 works fine. All you have to do is set the custom funtion that allows shutter
 release out of A mode. The default is set so idiots can not mess up by
 making a non-metered exposure. It also worked in program mode with my 3rd
 party KA lens, no problem.  The *istD is a very neat camera. It has the best
 viewfinder I have seen in a DSLR (I have handled the D100, S2, D60, 
 EOS1D), it is about the same apparent size and brightness as the MZ series
 35mm cameras (remember the sensor is smaller than 35mm so the viewfinder
 needs higher magnification to give the same apparent size). The prototype
 available for us to play with has a problem with power management. That will
 be fixed in the production cameras. I think it is the best of the sub $2000
 DSLRs. At $1699 I think they are going to sell faster than they can make
 them.
 
 I am home tonight from GFM because my air mattress suffered blowout last
 night. Living only 30 minutes away I decided I liked the idea of a soft bed
 and a hot shower better than the hard cold floor of my Blazer. Got to get up
 early and return in the morning so I don't miss anything.
 
 I hear all you folks to the north have been having quite an adventure.
 
 Ciao,
 Graywolf
 http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:33 AM
 Subject: Cripple your K  M lenses for the Cripple Mount
 
 
 Um,
 
 I'm probably not the first one to think of this, but
 if you have a K or M lens that you just ~must~ use
 with the *ist D, why not remove the aperture coupling
 arm??? It would effectively turn it into a manual
 diaphragm lens. Of course it would be a shame to do
 this to a really nice lens like the K-15/3.5 or
 K-18/3.5, but I would have no qualms crippling a
 K-55/1.8 for a fine 82.5mm portrait lens that is known
 for being a bit soft wide open :-)
 
 
 
 
 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:26:47 +0200
 From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: istdee
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 The *ist D does not have the aperture simulator
 coupling ring (you find
 its coupling lever at 2 o'clock on your LX) that is
 needed so that the
 camera knows how far the lens stops down during
 exposure. Without this
 ring, and with any lens not in A position,
 open-aperture measurement
 is not possible. Stop-down metering is possible with
 srew mount lenses
 or lenses with fully manual aperture like the
 K500/f4.5 or the
 K28/f3.5.
 Stop-down metering could also be possible with all
 lenses, if Pentax
 had
 programmed the *ist D's meter to work when DOF preview
 is activated.
 Unfortunately, Pentax did something else: In aperture
 priority mode the
 meter works but the aperture  always stays fully open.
 In manual mode
 the meter does not work but the lens stops down during
 exposure.
 
 Arnold
 
 Steve Larson schrieb:
 
 Looks to me like it has the aperture activator
 mechanism. I saved that
 jpeg of the istdee and enlarged it with ACDSee, it`s
 about 8 0`clock,
 looks just like the one in my LX. If that is indeed a
 mechanical
 actuator I don`t understand
 why a K or M lenses will not work. Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach,
 California
 
 
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Re: It really exists!

2003-08-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
It has Hyper modes. Some of your other questions can not be answered
accurately from handling a prototype (it is nice, but the production camera
should be better). It will be available with out the lens for $1699 or there
abouts. The FAJ lens is not available to play with at GFM.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: It really exists!


 on 8/14/03 7:30 PM, Mark Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am most interested in the view finder. But I presume you guys will
report
  all that.
 
  We will, but the report might not be relevant to a single user when it's
  based on ten people all trying to look through it at once!
  ;-)

 My concerns are with usability:

 Start up time in seconds or minutes;
 Length of time to write a full resolution top quality image to the memory
 card;
 Comparison of Hyper modes to setup on PZ-1p and/or MZ-S

 And with quality:

 Quality of ISO800 vs ISO200
 Effectiveness of autofocus, auto-exposure, auto white balance.

 And with availability:

 When can I get mine?!?
 Will I have to take the FAJ lens with it as part of a package?
 When is the FD available?

 And with price:

 What is the MSRP? That is what I'll be paying, or close to it...

 Thanks! Enjoy your scouting opportunity.

 Stan



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Re: Wide Angle Lens Recommendations?

2003-08-15 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Pat,

I've got the Vivitar 3.8 19mm, and it's certainly not a great lens, but it's a
bad one, either.  I think that it's a pretty inexpensive option, compared to
many other ultra-wides.

I'm sure that it's more prone to flare than the Pentax 20mm, but I rarely shoot
into the sun, so haven't really found it a problem.  I was fooling around with
the kids over the winter, and took these:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=258278

A really fun lens!

regards,
frank

Patrick Wunsch wrote:

 I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that the UWA lens would be going on my K1000.
 Keep the opinion coming people!  It's interesting and informative as well as
 necessary for me prior to making a purchase.  Thanks


--
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fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Re: Off for a week and a bit

2003-08-15 Thread frank theriault
Watch out for those rolling brown-outs!!

cheers,
frank

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ta for about a week and change.

 I'll be hitting Connecticut and New York City over the next week.
 Of course there will be a standard visit to Adorama and BH but I don't
 know if I'll have the coin to actually buy something... but where there's a
 will, there's a way.

 Cheers
 Dave

 
 mail2web - Check your email from the web at
 http://mail2web.com/ .

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fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer




Update Re: FS: various Pentax cameras and lenses

2003-08-15 Thread Stan Halpin
Here is an update on what I have for sale along with pointers to some images
I have posted. Paypal, check, money order, trade, whatever as payment. For
example, I would trade the 85/1.8 for an SMC-A 20/2.8

Return privileges on everything.

on 8/14/03 9:57 PM, Stan Halpin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... Pentax items that I expect to offer for sale over the next few days are:

 
 LX camera (535 series), box, purple bag, etc.
Spoken for.

[Shipping cost via USPS Priority Mail will be added to the following
prices.]

 various finders and viewers and screensSee
http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/LXbitsAndPieces.jpg

$100  LX Winder - works, no problems. Basically new.

$15   Remote Control Cord 37361: 15 ft remote switch which plugs into the LX
or ME II winder. New in box.

$25   Remote Battery Pack 37353 for LX or ME II Winder. Doubles as a remote
shutter switch. (About a 6ft cord)

$5 Original LX manual, printed 10/81. Slight tear on the cover page at
the spine of the booklet, some interior pages have annotations written in.

$20   SC-21 LX Finder screen, good condition. In box in (mismatched) case
with tool and instructions. This one is the original that came in LXen - a
ground glass field with a central small microprism grid.
$20   SG-20 LX Finder Screen. Fair condition (small mark on surface which
does not interfere in use.) In box in case with tool and instructions.
$20   SE-20  LX Finder screen, good condition. In box in case with tool and
instructions. Said to be especially suited for extreme telephoto or macro
work (i.e., when the viewfinder image is quite dim.)

$30   SG-60  LX Finder screen, good condition. In box in case with tool and
instructions. This is one of the newer brighter screens, this is the one
with a grid pattern.

$40   FB-1 LX Viewfinder. This is the Base for a system that has several
eyepieces available. With caps and instructions.

$60   FC-1 Eyepiece for FB-1 Viewfinder Base. This eyepiece is know as the
Sports Finder or Action Finder and has a very nice high eyepoint which is
quite useful for those who wear glasses. The eyepiece rotates to allow it to
be used eyelevel for horizontal or vertical shooting and also serves as a
good macro finder. In original box with cap and instructions.

$25   FD-2 Standard Eyepiece for FB-1 Viewfinder Base. When combined with
the FB-1, provides a simple large 45° viewfinder. In original box with cap
and instructions.
 
 Various K and M lenses:
See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/lensFamily.jpg

All lenses in very good condition. Ask for details on particular lenses. I
have caps and, in many cases, hoods, on these; again, ask me for details.
Shipping via Insured USPS Priority Mail in addition to the prices below.

 20mm  [SMC-M, 4.0]
 $275   See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/20mm.jpg

  24mm  [SMC (K) 2.8]
 $175   See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/24mm2dot8.jpg

 30mm [SMC (K) 2.8]
 $125   See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/30mm2dot8.jpg

 40mm [SMC-M 2.8]
 $100   See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/40mm2dot8.jpg

 50/1.4
[NOT available]

 85mm [SMC (K) 1.8]
 $-ASK   See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/85mm1dot8.jpg

 100/2.8 [SMC-M 2.8]
$100See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/100mm2dot8.jpg

 120mm  [SMC-M 2.8]
$100See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/120mm2dot8.jpg

 135/2.5 [SMC (K) 2.5] NOT the Takumar version.
$125See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/135mm2dot5.jpg

 135/3.5
[NOT available]

 200/4 [SMC-M 4.0]
 $75See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/200mm4dot0.jpg

 
Various macro items: see
 http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/macroTools.jpg

 Bellows [Asahi Pentax Bellows II]
 Slide copier
 100mm bellows lens [Takumar]
 $100 for the above three items as a package. The lens is a Screw mount,
Bellows-Takumar 100mm f4.0 in pristine condition. The bellows has the
adapter on the rear which mounts this unit on a K-mount body, NOT a screw
mount. All items like new.

$10  49mm reversing ring for Pentax screw mount. Combined with the bellows
above, you could reverse any of your K, M, etc. lenses on the bellows
unit...

$10  49mm reversing ring for K-mount

$5   #1 Extension tube for Pentax screwmount

 Helicoid extension tube K
 $25  this extension tube is about like a K tube #3 when at its shortest,
extends out to about the same as a #1 + #2 + #3. Includes caps.

 extender tube set
 $25 K extension tube set #'s 1, 2, and 3 in the original case.

 =
 AF280T flash units (2)
 One or two other Pentax and off-brand flashes

 $75 AF280T Pentax flash unit. Very fine condition, with original case.

 $30 AF200S Pentax flash unit. Very fine condition.

 $45 Vivitar 550FD flash unit. It works, but I know little about it. It
seems about equivalent to the 280T. It has M, Auto 1, Auto 2, and TTL modes,
a head that swivels vertically for bounce flash.

 other bits and pieces for Pentax 35mm k mount

 $15 Remote Switch ??? I've forgotten the designation, but this 

Re: *ist D figures

2003-08-15 Thread frank theriault
I think you're right, Bill.  Nikon's F system was around pre-Spotmatic.
There were a few PJ's that used Spotmatics, but not many.  And I don't think
there was anything like a mass exodus from Pentax to Nikon.

I think as well that the whole pros didn't use Pentax because they couldn't
change lenses fast enough is wrong.  Most pros rarely changed lenses in the
field anyway.  That's why they had 2 or 3 bodies hanging around their necks.
Often a Leica M3 with a 35mm, and a Nikon F with a 90mm, and maybe another
Nikon body with either a 50mm or a 135mm (depending on the job).

regards,
frank

William Robb wrote:

 Actually, photojournalists who had previously used Leica discovered Nikon
 during the American occupation of Japan, and into the Korean war.
 Pentax was never in the picture.

 William Robb

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Re: Update Re: FS: various Pentax cameras and lenses

2003-08-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
Stan, I would take the following if you can wait until the 3rd for payment.

  100/2.8 [SMC-M 2.8]
 $100See http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/100mm2dot8.jpg


Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:11 PM
Subject: Update Re: FS: various Pentax cameras and lenses


 Here is an update on what I have for sale along with pointers to some
images
 I have posted. Paypal, check, money order, trade, whatever as payment. For
 example, I would trade the 85/1.8 for an SMC-A 20/2.8

 Return privileges on everything.



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Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Apilado
Subject: Re: Cripple your K  M lenses for the Cripple Mount


 How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?

I own at least 4, I may have a couple more tucked away that I have
forgotten.

William Robb



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)


 If someone really wanted to write a script to take out a Mac, it wouldn't
be
 any more difficult than writing one for PC, and probably easier.
 But no one would notice, so it wouldn't be any fun.

 No one except the 5 million Mac users world wide ;-)

The bulk of which are in graphics shops and aren't hooked up to the net
anyway.
Whats that number in context? About a billionth of 1% of the computers
presently in use?

William Robb



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Cameron,

Take it to another forum please - this is about photography and Pentax
- Being a Software engineer for 23 years, I don't want to hear about
the silly wars here.

Thanks,


Bruce



Friday, August 15, 2003, 6:20:30 PM, you wrote:

CH   A bit of both. OSX has superb onboard encription which is about to 
CH get even better, and Macs are notoriously difficult to write viruses 
CH for, anyway, EXCEPT for the Microsoft software which we can now, 
CH thankfully, avoid. There are a few Mac viruses out there set to go 
CH against Outlook Express and Internet Exploder, but they are rare, and 
CH now with the latest version of OSX, we have a dedicated mail and 
CH browser program integrated into the operating system, so we need no 
CH longer rely on the evil empire. And a new release of OSX is slated for 
CH the fall, with built in faxing.

CH  Macs are fabulous, and as a former Windoze user who has switched, I 
CH personally will never go back. Photoshop, with Mac's Coloursync 
CH controlling the colour consistency from scanner to monitor to printer, 
CH running in a Native OSX environment with symmetrical dual-processing 
CH and a gig and a half of RAM - YAHOO! BTW, the new mac G5's will take up 
CH to 8 gigs of ram, have dual 2 GHZ processors, each with 1 gig frontside 
CH busses. Smokin'!

CH  Do yourself a favour - get one - they are not just better for 
CH graphics, or video, or music, they are just better machines for 
CH everything, they really are.

CH  Cameron


CH On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 11:51  AM, 
CH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:38:06 -0400
 From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)
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 I have a question:

 Is the security for Macs better than Windows or does no one really
 bother to write viruses that attack them?


 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
 Washington and Lee University
 Lexington, VA 24450
 (540) 458-8873
 FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Re: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax believe me)

2003-08-15 Thread ernreed2
Cameron Hood posted, among other things: 
  Macs are fabulous, and as a former Windoze user who has switched, I 
 personally will never go back. ... 
  Do yourself a favour - get one - they are not just better for 
 graphics, or video, or music, they are just better machines for 
 everything, they really are.

We've already had at least one lengthy, snappish Mac vs. WindoWS discussion 
here this year. If you want to rehash the arguments, look 'em up in the 
archives for your private enjoyment -- please spare those of us who *don't* 
want to relive it.

Someone -- I think it was MacCotty -- posted a very sensible summary of the 
whole issue back then. It's worth reading, unless your platform preference is a 
religious issue to you.

ERNR
who can't help thinking that certain Mac users just have problems with the 
other system because they can't spell it?
(insert smiley here)




Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread ernreed2
Jim A. asked:
 How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?

Is this a poll? I have three.



Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
I've got one - Gossen Luna Pro Digital F - use it pretty heavily for
flash work - but also use the incident mode quite often as opposed to
the in-camera meter.


Bruce



Friday, August 15, 2003, 9:16:01 PM, you wrote:


WR - Original Message - 
WR From: Jim Apilado
WR Subject: Re: Cripple your K  M lenses for the Cripple Mount


 How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?

WR I own at least 4, I may have a couple more tucked away that I have
WR forgotten.

WR William Robb




Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I use an old Weston Master with an invercone for copy work and a Sekonic
Digilite F for flash, reflected light and incident light readings. The
Sekonic also gives decent results when used to adjust the light level in a
compound microscope. Especially for darkfield work.

Don
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- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Cripple your K  M lenses for the Cripple Mount


 I've got one - Gossen Luna Pro Digital F - use it pretty heavily for
 flash work - but also use the incident mode quite often as opposed to
 the in-camera meter.


 Bruce



 Friday, August 15, 2003, 9:16:01 PM, you wrote:


 WR - Original Message -
 WR From: Jim Apilado
 WR Subject: Re: Cripple your K  M lenses for the Cripple Mount


  How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?

 WR I own at least 4, I may have a couple more tucked away that I have
 WR forgotten.

 WR William Robb






Hand held meters was: Cripple your K M lenses for the CrippleMount

2003-08-15 Thread Paul Ewins
Spotmeter K, Digital Spotmeter, Sekonic 718, Weston Master

The Sekonic is for flash, the spotmeters for 4x5, and I got the Weston to
use with my Moskva 5.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia




on 16/8/03 12:58 pm, Jim Apilado at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?
 
 Jim A.
 




Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread Pentxuser
I have one. Sekonic 328
In a message dated 8/15/03 11:31:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jim A. asked:
 How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?

Is this a poll? I have three.



Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)

2003-08-15 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I run XP Pro normally. My main drive C: plugs in. I pull it out to run WIN98
from another HD when I need to use the scanners. There are no XP drivers for
Olympus or Primax. The two other (fixed and big) drives hold software and
data respectively. I only need to back up the data drive D:. On another HD I
have Red Hat Linux but haven't plugged that in for ages. I would if I could
get software to do what I need. The Plug-in drawers are quite cheap and
don't give trouble. When a new version of Windows arrives you install it on
a new HD and if things go wrong its a simple matter to pull out the drawer
and go back to the old one while you figure out what needs to be done.

Why not use multiboot? I don't like it. If things go wrong, and they will as
we all know, there is such a hell of a lot of work to do to get back up and
running. Reinstalling two or more operating systems takes a long time - I
know!

Don
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- Original Message -
From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)


 Of course, that´s what we all should have done, stayed with Win ´98.
 It got stable, at last :-)

 (I just remember my old win´98 laptop.  It refused to be turned off,
 just started up again with a blue screen.  Just a bug in Win´98 network
 setup, they said.  Man, I miss that one :-)

 DagT

 På fredag, 15. august 2003, kl. 23:47, skrev Herb Chong:

  i consider my Win98 system unstable if it crashes that often (once
  every 3 weeks). once every 3 or 4 months is where it stays most of the
  time. however, when things go wrong, they usually go very wrong very
  quickly.
 
  Herb
  - Original Message -
  From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 17:16
  Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me)
 
 
  Yes, it´s like the good old days using Unix on XWindows.  Instability
  is one crash each three weeks, not three each day :-)
 
 
 






Re: Cripple your K M lenses for the Cripple Mount

2003-08-15 Thread Sid Barras

 
 How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?

Sid Replies:
I have a gossen luna pro f, an incident meter that can be converted to do
semi-spot metering (7.5 degree angle of measurement), it has an attachment
for darkroom measurements, it is a dandy flash meter, and it works pretty
well measuring the light output in foot-candles in my orchid/bromeliad
greenhouse, too. Needless to mention, given my erudition, I like this meter
very very much. I wouldn't trade it for the newer digital version. I like
the analog meter's needle.'

I also have a zone VI modified spot meter, complete with the zone system
chart... I use it for black and white mostly, though I always seem to have
the luna pro with me too.

Both meters are the best in their class, in my opinion.

Sid B