Re: RE: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/04 Fri AM 07:47:30 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair You'all need to get aligned with another monarchy. Don't worry, Bill. They're starting to grow their own dynasties (Kennedy, Bush, Clinton). Already they're ruled by another George III... (Washington, Bush, Bush) g Didn't George III go insane? vbg - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #2794
On 3/11/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Oh, come on, Cotty. We all read the Digest posts for the unsub requests followed by a barrage of insults and Eagles quotes. You're just in a huff because Raph spoiled your fun with a legitimate question. g Har! For once I was being sincere. The post needed more exposure. Not everyone reads the digest subject line posts. True. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
There are some who might consider the DS and the DS2 to be the equal of the D, and perhaps in some ways superior. Why do you say that the other D cameras are less camera than the D? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Tom C The problem now is the D is almost 2 years old, and the D(eviants) are less camera than the D.
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Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
mike wilson wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html Pretty outrageous, isn't it? And to think Sony were once on the side of fair rights use in the Betamax case. Another article: http://ct.cnet-ssa.com.com/clicks?c=696664-615643brand=cnet-ssads=5fs=0 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8
Hi Jorn, On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:41:34 +0100, Jorn Ostergaard wrote: Anyone who have any experience with Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8 ? Yes, I have had it for about 2 months now. Love the low weight and small size. Performs very well, at least as good as the Sigma 105 EX that it replaced. The only slight disadvantage is that it does not have a focus-limiter. This may cause it to hunt over a larger range sometimes ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: OT: Am I back?
Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: They changed the company name again (and the e-mail addys) and I got dropped out. Just testing if I can send to the list once again after the listguy changed my address. Thanks Doug, Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy Turku www.computec.fi Came thru loud and clear! keith whaley
Re: Bye, and thanks for all the fish...
Sorry to see you go, Fra, but good luck, and look me up if you come to London. John On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:46:12 -, Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, it seems my work (photographic!) doesn't leave me too much time to read, and better, respond to PDML mail. Therefore I will be unsubscribing shortly. I have hanged around just becuase of you guys (you know who you are), owning almost no pentax camera these days :( I hope to keep in touch with friends from here via private mail, and if there is anything really interesting going on (perhaps another improper photography/philosophy/monty python/blunkett thread g), please enlighten me and send me an announcement via e-mail. As I have been pursuing photojournalism almsot exclusively for some long time, the list wasn't so interesting to me photographically (although the flowers and cats were less frequent g), but it was a great social place to hang around, like a nice pub or cafe. And I hope to see you again some day... I would like to continue to see PAWs of some people (again, you probably know who you are), some of them were inspiring, really! I will fade out over few days, not responding much so don't expect any flaming from me over OT issues... but it was nice to talk about them, surprisingly even intelligently even though our opinions differed a lot with some list members. Good luck, and good light! And don't loose faith in Pentax - after all, it's just a brand, faith should be in higher thinks than just a stupid brand be it Pentax or Canon or Nikon or whatever... BTW, if anybody is goind trough or near Prague or Czech republic, drop me a line. It's entertaining to meet the people from here. Frantisek -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Big power source
Okay. Today I connected the 6/12AH Lead Acid battery to the *ist D. I've marked it on my calender and we'll see how many weeks it lasts before needing a charge. I think it's full up now -- reading 6.15V. It's not something you could put in a jacket pocket. Its a real hefty block of plastic and lead that might be okay in a backpack. D -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005
Re: A3 photo printer
- Original Message - From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take a look at the Epson 2400 as well as the 4800 (which is an A2 printer). I am seriously considering the 4800 as my next printer to replace my current 2000 with CIS (continuous inking system). A3+ size is a bit too small at times. I've just ordered the R2400 + a new HP computer with 2Gigabyte RAM (is that enough?). I hope to get my own web page up soon... Pål
RE: A3 photo printer
I've just ordered the R2400 + a new HP computer with 2Gigabyte RAM (is that enough?). I hope to get my own web page up soon... Pål 2GB will do just fine! Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy Turku www.computec.fi
Re[2]: PESO: Branch
Hello Boris, Friday, November 4, 2005, 7:57:52 AM, you wrote: BL Attila, I couldn't resist and of course clicked on the next link... You don't have to resist, it's a web page, feel free to click on anything;-) BL liked the cropped version much more. The crop was suggested by Kenneth Waller, after I posted this uncropped version. I think you missed his post. BL The cropped one make it almost as BL if no human intervention was involved here. Seeing the buildings on the BL background of the uncropped version makes me think that this branch was BL actually cut and deliberately placed in the pond this way. In fact the branch was cut, but I don't know how it ended up in the pond. Maybe it was deliberately placed, maybe it was just thrown away. BL P.S. Did you try to make a vertical shot *along* the direction of the BL branch? I haven't. Maybe next time:) Thanks for your comments. Attila
Re: Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8
Thanx for the input. I just bought one. So now I will go out and shoot with it. /Jorn i've not done any formal testing but whatever i have shot with it has always been very sharp. it is significantly lighter in build and weight than the FA 100/2.8 macro. Herb... - Original Message - From: Jorn Ostergaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8 Hey All Anyone who have any experience with Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8 ? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 03-11-2005 Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at få 4538 spam-mails. Betalende brugere får ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent gratis SPAMfighter her: www.spamfighter.dk
Re: Big power source
From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/04 Fri AM 10:58:42 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Big power source Okay. Today I connected the 6/12AH Lead Acid battery to the *ist D. I've marked it on my calender and we'll see how many weeks it lasts before needing a charge. I think it's full up now -- reading 6.15V. It's not something you could put in a jacket pocket. Its a real hefty block of plastic and lead that might be okay in a backpack. It will probably self-discharge faster than you deplete it. 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: A3 photo printer
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/04 Fri AM 11:16:48 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A3 photo printer - Original Message - From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take a look at the Epson 2400 as well as the 4800 (which is an A2 printer). I am seriously considering the 4800 as my next printer to replace my current 2000 with CIS (continuous inking system). A3+ size is a bit too small at times. I've just ordered the R2400 + a new HP computer with 2Gigabyte RAM (is that enough?). I hope to get my own web page up soon... Looking forward to that. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
Thanks, Mike. If enough people get to hear of this, Sony stand to lose a gigantic amount of money. Reminds me of what happened to Gerald Ratner (for non-Brits, Ratner ran the UK's biggest jewellery business. At a luncheon, he had a glass of wine too many, and stood up and said that the products his company sold were crap. The next day, sales collapsed, the shares collapsed, he was kicked out, and the company only just survived - after changing its name). John On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:47:35 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PESO - Queue
I have to agree with Boris. For my taste, the picture is stronger if the person on the right is cropped out. John On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 07:19:55 -, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Boris, Thanks for looking and commenting (thanks to all who did). As for the person on the right, I'd only suggest that every picture is unique and that consequently one should approach common rule[s] of thumb with a certain caution. It's simply the case that this particular picture includes the person on the right. Thanks again. -Marco On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso29.html Comments, as always, welcomed. Marco, I really like it... It is busy but I think it is meant to be this way. I have a question of curiosity and potential opportunity to learn something. That person on the right. Why did you let them remain in the frame? Generally it seems a common rule of thumb to avoid such things... Why did you do it otherwise this time? Except for the hugging couple on the far left it really works for me. Thanks. Boris -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Big power source
From: Don Williams Subject: Big power source Okay. Today I connected the 6/12AH Lead Acid battery to the *ist D. I've marked it on my calender and we'll see how many weeks it lasts before needing a charge. I think it's full up now -- reading 6.15V. It's not something you could put in a jacket pocket. Its a real hefty block of plastic and lead that might be okay in a backpack. Is that 6v 12AH ? If so it should last about the same as five or six sets of reasonable NiMh AAs. Why not get a nice 400AH battery charge it up once a year :-) As a caution Lead Acid batteries tend to be ideal/designed for high discharge rates whilst essentially remaining fully charged all the time (think of car batteries here). When used for what I imagine will be your long very slow discharge rate usage they can tend to develope a memory effect that makes them both harder to charge properly, and also their ability to supply large currents diminishes. One of those digital battery conditioner thingies that pulse charges and continually maintains battery condition might be ideal for a permanent bench setup - there again it will probably cost more than a small battery :-) The deeper you discharge the battery the shorter will be it's life, ideally you would charge it up when it reaches 80% charge but this would mean charging it almost as often as you would a set of AAs. Rob. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 03/11/2005
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] If enough people get to hear of this, Sony stand to lose a gigantic amount of money. On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:47:35 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html What I found really shocking was not so much that Sony did it, as that it did it so badly. With the resources it has at its disposal, Sony has shown itself to be managed by the same sort of plonkers that infest every other organisation. You could expect a multinational corporation to act in a high handed manner. I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The problem now is the D is almost 2 years old, and the D(eviants) are
less camera than the D.
'D{eviants)'. I like it :-)
But you won't get away saying they are lesser cameras than the D.
Rob.
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RE: Best M42 Camera?
Hi Andre thanks, it's time to look out for a black F then ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:48 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Best M42 Camera? Is the F a later model... Yes, it is the last mechanical Spotmatic. Then came the Electro-Spotmatics. how do I see if a Spotmatic can handle 1.5 volt batteries? They can all handle the 1.5 battery. All the details at http://www.aohc.it/batte.htm ...to fit my lovely SMC Takumar 85mm 1.8... A black F has class... Andre
RE: Best M42 Camera?
Thanks Paul, I will have a look at auctions for a black F now ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:53 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? The Spotmatic F works fine with 1.5 volt batteries. Paul
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
I agree. And it raises two other questions. The first, posited by a respondent on one of the lists that mention this outrage, was: What now is the meaning of trusted content?. If you can't trust Sony not to illegally and deviously infect your PC with damaging virus-like software, who can you trust? And the second point is this: If Sony are prepared to act like this, what might that even bigger and more ruthless company, Microsoft, be prepared to do? Sony's inept effort was easy for a competent programmer to spot, but Microsoft could embed something so deeply into an otherwise perfectly innocent and valid program that nobody would know it was there. They might even have done it. And it might well already be in Longhorn, or whatever they call the next version of Windows. Time for another look at Linux, methinks. Of course, this whole issue is caused by an industry that can't accept, and refuses to adapt to, a fundamental change to its business model. John On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:48:23 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] If enough people get to hear of this, Sony stand to lose a gigantic amount of money. On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:47:35 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html What I found really shocking was not so much that Sony did it, as that it did it so badly. With the resources it has at its disposal, Sony has shown itself to be managed by the same sort of plonkers that infest every other organisation. You could expect a multinational corporation to act in a high handed manner. I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
Given that the D offers considerably more control and better facilities
than the deviants, I have to say that I'm with Tom C on this.
Which is not to knock the deviants.
John
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:48:59 -, Rob Smith
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The problem now is the D is almost 2 years old, and the D(eviants) are
less camera than the D.
'D{eviants)'. I like it :-)
But you won't get away saying they are lesser cameras than the D.
Rob.
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Re: Hmmm, something fishy about this guy....
Hardly. He was the Jolly farmer. John On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 07:45:06 -, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/11/05, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.users.waitrose.com/~greenwitney/recent.html Coo - I used to live in Cogges. :-) I'm pretty sure the Post Office in question was still a wheatfield back then though, so I can't say I'm particularly bothered by the idea of it closing... Really? Good grief. Small world. I presume you lived in a pen at the farm museum?? ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html What I found really shocking was not so much that Sony did it, as that it did it so badly. Yep. The implementation is so poor that it'll relatively easy for virus writers to make their code take advantage of the cloaking technology already installed by the Sony malware on who-knows-how-many systems now. Anti-virus companies are already bracing themselves for it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Bye, and thanks for all the fish...
Take care, Fran. We will miss you. If time permits, subscribe from time to time, and post a message for us to know you are all right. And let us see some of your work, by the way. I wish all the best for you and your PJ career. Carlos
Re: PESO - The Scribe
Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Comments, as always, welcomed. Beautiful! What great light! I suppose it would be better without that Starbucks cup on the table, but then this *is* a Starbucks photo, isn't it? g -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: A3 photo printer
Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just ordered the R2400 + a new HP computer with 2Gigabyte RAM (is that enough?). I hope to get my own web page up soon... Pål 2GB will do just fine! I believe 2G is all Photoshop is capable of accessing. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
Serious newspapers maintain a very solid wall between editorial and advertising sales. No editor of a major US newspaper would ever bow to a publisher by inserting a story just to sell ad space. Depending on the personality of the publication, many editors WILL go with stories that are likely to increase readership. But even on the car magazines I've worked for, no one ever was able to push a story through to help an advertiser. Aside from the obvious moral issues, there's a practical reason as well. For every advertiser you please, you'll piss off half a dozen. Paul On Nov 3, 2005, at 11:36 PM, David Mann wrote: On Nov 4, 2005, at 11:24 AM, frank theriault wrote: certainly, both the police and the press have the legal right to publish such info. but really, sometimes i wish they'd both use a bit of discretion in such sensitive cases as those involving sexual allegations. Media? Discretion? Discretion doesn't add value to ad space, unfortunately. As for the legal right, I'm sure they'd have to be quite careful about how they present the information, and any implications they might make. Public opinion is shaped by exactly how the information is reported by the media so there is bound to be a certain amount of room for a civil lawsuit in many cases. lives can be ruined by mere allegations. innocent until proven guilty is lost on most people with sex crimes are alleged. Even when people get name suppression, enough details can get out that lead to wild speculation by just about anyone with an axe to grind. eg high-profile ex-sportsman for one recent case, which was a relatively minor drugs charge. The guy eventually released his own name just to stop the rumours from harming his friends. legal or not, it would be nice to see the police and press do the ~right~ thing in these cases! The press love to tell us what to think, which is the reason I stopped reading newspapers. I stopped watching TV news because it's becoming completely ridiculous for a number of reasons. OK I do watch the weather girl, but only because there's something good on just after the news (currently Family Guy). Honest... ;) Teletext is my favourite news source now because they can fit so little info onto a page they have no choice but to pick the most important stories, and include only the most important information within them. Not sure if you guys have a similar service: http://tvnz.co.nz/view/tvnz_story_skin/413580?format=html - Dave
Re: Bye, and thanks for all the fish...
Sorry to see you go, Frantisek. You've been a very valuable contributor, and your photography is an inspiration to us all. Good luck with your career and do stop in from time to time. Paul On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, Frantisek wrote: Hi, it seems my work (photographic!) doesn't leave me too much time to read, and better, respond to PDML mail. Therefore I will be unsubscribing shortly. I have hanged around just becuase of you guys (you know who you are), owning almost no pentax camera these days :( I hope to keep in touch with friends from here via private mail, and if there is anything really interesting going on (perhaps another improper photography/philosophy/monty python/blunkett thread g), please enlighten me and send me an announcement via e-mail. As I have been pursuing photojournalism almsot exclusively for some long time, the list wasn't so interesting to me photographically (although the flowers and cats were less frequent g), but it was a great social place to hang around, like a nice pub or cafe. And I hope to see you again some day... I would like to continue to see PAWs of some people (again, you probably know who you are), some of them were inspiring, really! I will fade out over few days, not responding much so don't expect any flaming from me over OT issues... but it was nice to talk about them, surprisingly even intelligently even though our opinions differed a lot with some list members. Good luck, and good light! And don't loose faith in Pentax - after all, it's just a brand, faith should be in higher thinks than just a stupid brand be it Pentax or Canon or Nikon or whatever... BTW, if anybody is goind trough or near Prague or Czech republic, drop me a line. It's entertaining to meet the people from here. Frantisek
Re: Big power source
Is that 6v 12AH ? If so it should last about the same as five or six sets of reasonable NiMh AAs. Why not get a nice 400AH battery charge it up once a year :-) Not quite that simple. You get more benefit than the simple math predicts, since batteries are more efficient at lower [dis]charge rates. As a caution Lead Acid batteries tend to be ideal/designed for high discharge rates whilst essentially remaining fully charged all the time (think of car batteries here). When used for what I imagine will be your long very slow discharge rate usage they can tend to develope a memory effect that makes them both harder to charge properly, and also their ability to supply large currents diminishes. Not really... they may be designed to *tolerate* high current levels, and that may diminish their deep-cycle capacity a bit, but they are still the same battery chemistry. Lead acid batteries (nor NiMH, nor NiCd except in extremely specially-constructed circumstances) do NOT have a memory effect. The death of a lead acid battery is from leaving it discharged for any length of time. One of those digital battery conditioner thingies that pulse charges and continually maintains battery condition might be ideal for a permanent bench setup - there again it will probably cost more than a small battery :-) Those pulse chargers have been shown to be little more than snake oil. The deeper you discharge the battery the shorter will be it's life, ideally you would charge it up when it reaches 80% charge but this would mean charging it almost as often as you would a set of AAs. If you look at life cycles of lead-acid batts from a manufacturer's datasheet, you'll see that's not the case. The total *energy* moved in and out of the battery is fairly constant... discharge 25% and it will last 2x as many cycles as a 50% discharge. Roughly same net energy. Leave it totally discharged for a few days and you'll have lost the majority of the capacity. If you've left the camera on with the LCD going, it draws about 1/4 amp from what I measured on my -DS awhile back. That's about C/50, so the battery should last about two days. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: PESO - Sharing a moment
Thanks Boris. They're looking at a cow. I took some shots that included the object of their affection, but didn't quite get it right. Paul On Nov 4, 2005, at 1:03 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Yesterday afternoon at a farm in Metamora, Michigan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3841051 Paul, there is definite sense of steadiness (TM) around your granddaughter ;-). I wish I could see what are they both looking at... Boris
Re: A3 photo printer
Congratulations. You won't regret it. That's a superb printer. Two gigs of RAM should be plenty for PS work. Paul On Nov 4, 2005, at 6:16 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take a look at the Epson 2400 as well as the 4800 (which is an A2 printer). I am seriously considering the 4800 as my next printer to replace my current 2000 with CIS (continuous inking system). A3+ size is a bit too small at times. I've just ordered the R2400 + a new HP computer with 2Gigabyte RAM (is that enough?). I hope to get my own web page up soon... Pål
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
On 11/3/05, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abso-ber-luddy-lutely, mate. The very idea that street photography might be fun - shocking! No, it's serious, worthy, artistic endeavour of the highest degree. damn straight! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
Lesser build, no AF-C in all modes, no commander flash, no battery grip, no PC Sync, most settings via menu rather than direct controls, no analogue meter readout. You gain a bigger buffer (on the DS/DS2 only), bigger LCD, spot white balance and a slightly higher flash sync. They are less camera than the D, but the DS/DS2 especially are more than enough camera for most. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: There are some who might consider the DS and the DS2 to be the equal of the D, and perhaps in some ways superior. Why do you say that the other D cameras are less camera than the D? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Tom C The problem now is the D is almost 2 years old, and the D(eviants) are less camera than the D.
Re: Best M42 Camera?
Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. I believe you're wrong about this. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? The Electro Spotmatics, and ES cameras actually came first. Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. Andre Langevin wrote: Is the F a later model... Yes, it is the last mechanical Spotmatic. Then came the Electro-Spotmatics. how do I see if a Spotmatic can handle 1.5 volt batteries? They can all handle the 1.5 battery. All the details at http://www.aohc.it/batte.htm ...to fit my lovely SMC Takumar 85mm 1.8... A black F has class... Andre -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:48:23 +, mike wilson wrote: I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. Well, the other side of that is that they claim that they've got several titles out with that same software for the last eight months or so, and this is the first time anyone has noticed. And I'm not hearing much of a hue and cry outside the serious geek contingent (of which I am a part). TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:04:59 -, John Forbes wrote: Time for another look at Linux, methinks. You won't be able to play some of your content. I've already encountered this with a DVD of the movie Men In Black I bought about 2-3 years ago. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
On 11/4/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I agree with you Frank, but the flow of information cannot be filtered through subjective channels or we who live in a democracy with a free press risk all i'm not talking about censorship, cotty, i'm talking about common sense, discretion and humanity. if you don't think that the press currently filters the news, then you're living in a different world than me. in a 1/2 hour newscast choices are being made wrt every story shown - and not shown. obviously the editors who chose to run the story we're talking about decided that their ratings are more important than any damage caused to an individual's life - an individual who may well have been innocent (and indeed, in this case, was). it would have been nice if they balanced it otherwise. or, it would have been nice if the answer would have been, we'd alienate our viewers if we run that story. so, maybe it's our fault as consumers, in the long run. but, the bottom line is that every story is filtered through subjective channels, and the editors must take responsibility for the ramifications of what's aired. -frank -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
I'd like to add a few with my own personal weighting/opinions
added. YMMV.
- Lesser build,
Still better than brand-C by a long shot. -D *larger* which could be a
detriment to some.
-no AF-C in all modes,
Most of my lenses are MF so it doesn't matter.
-no commander flash,
Built a long-cable shutter release
-no battery grip,
Irrelevant for me.
-no PC Sync,
Irrelevant for me.
-most settings via menu rather than direct controls,
This is the biggest advantage to the -D IMO.
no analogue meter readout.
? You mean pretend analog with sliding scale inside the viewfinder? My
friend's Canon Rebel XT has that and I prefer the +-EV in the -DS display.
- You gain a bigger buffer (on the DS/DS2 only),
- bigger LCD,
Even on the non-2 models?
- spot white balance
Shooting RAW almost eliminates white balance concerns
and a slightly higher flash sync.
neglibibly faster.
They are less camera than the D, but the DS/DS2 especially are more than
enough camera for most.
I'll add a few:
- DS has less stupid RAW files than D. Still uncompressed, but at least
packed so size is 10 megs as opposed to 15.
- D only has USB1, D{S,L,S2} has USB2.
- D has TTL for built-in flash on non-A lenses
- D has CF, D{S,L,S2} has SD. largely irrelevant but important for some.
- D has higher MTBF-rated shutter.
- D has less sharp JPEG rendering.
Again... these are tainted with my personal preferences. YMMV.
What really bothers me is that many of these issues could be fixed with a
firmware update. Marketing prevails and engineering loses, however.
-Cory
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* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University *
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Asahi Pentax introduction dates (was: Best M42 Camera?)
Asahiflex, Asahi Pentax and Pentax introduction dates: http://www.aohc.it/slre.htm M42 Asahi Pentax cameras: http://www.aohc.it/slr02e.htm Dario - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. I believe you're wrong about this. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? The Electro Spotmatics, and ES cameras actually came first. Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. Andre Langevin wrote: Is the F a later model... Yes, it is the last mechanical Spotmatic. Then came the Electro-Spotmatics. how do I see if a Spotmatic can handle 1.5 volt batteries? They can all handle the 1.5 battery. All the details at http://www.aohc.it/batte.htm ...to fit my lovely SMC Takumar 85mm 1.8... A black F has class... Andre -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Bye, and thanks for all the fish...
On 11/3/05, Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, it seems my work (photographic!) doesn't leave me too much time to read, and better, respond to PDML mail. Therefore I will be unsubscribing shortly. I have hanged around just becuase of you guys (you know who you are), owning almost no pentax camera these days :( I hope to keep in touch with friends from here via private mail, and if there is anything really interesting going on (perhaps another improper photography/philosophy/monty python/blunkett thread g), please enlighten me and send me an announcement via e-mail. As I have been pursuing photojournalism almsot exclusively for some long time, the list wasn't so interesting to me photographically (although the flowers and cats were less frequent g), but it was a great social place to hang around, like a nice pub or cafe. And I hope to see you again some day... I would like to continue to see PAWs of some people (again, you probably know who you are), some of them were inspiring, really! I will fade out over few days, not responding much so don't expect any flaming from me over OT issues... but it was nice to talk about them, surprisingly even intelligently even though our opinions differed a lot with some list members. Good luck, and good light! And don't loose faith in Pentax - after all, it's just a brand, faith should be in higher thinks than just a stupid brand be it Pentax or Canon or Nikon or whatever... BTW, if anybody is goind trough or near Prague or Czech republic, drop me a line. It's entertaining to meet the people from here. you're a breath of fresh air in this place, fra. and one hell of a photographer. you'll be missed. i'll keep in touch off-list. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
Interspersed.
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
I'd like to add a few with my own personal weighting/opinions
added. YMMV.
- Lesser build,
Still better than brand-C by a long shot. -D *larger* which could be
a detriment to some.
True.
-no AF-C in all modes,
Most of my lenses are MF so it doesn't matter.
It's something the competition has, and the DS/DS2 don't.
-no commander flash,
Built a long-cable shutter release
You misunderstand me. The D's flash can function as a wireless commander
(Commands wireless flashes but doesn't add to the exposure) the others
cannot. Major flash feature if you shoot with multiple flashes. Notable
'Pro' feature
-no battery grip,
Irrelevant for me.
Big deal for me, as well as the extra battery life. Big advantage if you
shoot a lot in 'Portrait' orientation
-no PC Sync,
Irrelevant for me.
Major 'Pro' feature. I use this on a regular basis actually.
-most settings via menu rather than direct controls,
This is the biggest advantage to the -D IMO.
no analogue meter readout.
? You mean pretend analog with sliding scale inside the
viewfinder? My friend's Canon Rebel XT has that and I prefer the +-EV
in the -DS display.
Yes, much faster than EV readouts for me.
- You gain a bigger buffer (on the DS/DS2 only),
- bigger LCD,
Even on the non-2 models?
Yep, D is 1.8, DS is 2, DL and DS2 are 2.5
- spot white balance Shooting RAW almost eliminates white balance
concerns
Yes, but spot white balance is a major win when shooting JPEG, and most
will shoot JPEG at some point.
and a slightly higher flash sync.
neglibibly faster.
They are less camera than the D, but the DS/DS2 especially are more
than enough camera for most.
I'll add a few:
- DS has less stupid RAW files than D. Still uncompressed, but at
least packed so size is 10 megs as opposed to 15.
- D only has USB1, D{S,L,S2} has USB2.
- D has TTL for built-in flash on non-A lenses
- D has CF, D{S,L,S2} has SD. largely irrelevant but important for some.
- D has higher MTBF-rated shutter.
- D has less sharp JPEG rendering.
Again... these are tainted with my personal preferences. YMMV.
What really bothers me is that many of these issues could be fixed
with a firmware update. Marketing prevails and engineering loses,
however.
-Cory
I actually missed a few. D has HyperProgram (Shiftable program), 4
program lines(Normal, fast, DoF and MTF) and HyperManual.
Re: PAW: Stilted Building
On 11/4/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Frank, imagine nice warm autumn morning, like this one (in Israel). You sit down to enjoy your PDML PESOs and PAWs... And then... Out of totally blue sky you get totally blurred picture by Shel and totally sharp yet abstract picture from Frank... ;-) snip cue twilight zone music: doo-doo-do-do doo-doo-do-do... you have entered a reflected universe, where what was left is now right, where up becomes down, where frank becomes a middle-aged jew in san fransisco and shel becomes a one-armed former bike messenger/atheist in toronto. a world where your most basic assumptions must be thrown to the winds of uncertainty. you have entered: the PAW zone! LOL thanks for your comments, boris. i'm glad you liked it. i'll have the yashicamat this weekend, visiting my daughters in kingston; looking forward to that. don't worry, for my next paw i'll back to my old tricks! g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Blurry Bike Boy
On 11/4/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is how Frank's seeing the world... i was going to comment on how sharp it was! LOL Boris-ducking-from-Knarf no need to do that g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
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RE: Asahi Pentax introduction dates (was: Best M42 Camera?)
Thanks for all the replies! I was thinking, interestingly enough...Since Pentax was a Zeiss(?) trademark that Asahi bought - Pentax = PENTaprism + contAX- right? I've read this in several places And thus is Pentacon = PENTAprism + CONtax?? All of a sudden the names seemed so similar to me... Mark -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:29 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Asahi Pentax introduction dates (was: Best M42 Camera?) Asahiflex, Asahi Pentax and Pentax introduction dates: http://www.aohc.it/slre.htm M42 Asahi Pentax cameras: http://www.aohc.it/slr02e.htm Dario - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. I believe you're wrong about this. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? The Electro Spotmatics, and ES cameras actually came first. Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. Andre Langevin wrote: Is the F a later model... Yes, it is the last mechanical Spotmatic. Then came the Electro-Spotmatics. how do I see if a Spotmatic can handle 1.5 volt batteries? They can all handle the 1.5 battery. All the details at http://www.aohc.it/batte.htm ...to fit my lovely SMC Takumar 85mm 1.8... A black F has class... Andre -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/04 Fri PM 12:04:59 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs. I agree. And it raises two other questions. The first, posited by a respondent on one of the lists that mention this outrage, was: What now is the meaning of trusted content?. If you can't trust Sony not to illegally and deviously infect your PC with damaging virus-like software, who can you trust? And the second point is this: If Sony are prepared to act like this, what might that even bigger and more ruthless company, Microsoft, be prepared to do? Sony's inept effort was easy for a competent programmer to spot, but Microsoft could embed something so deeply into an otherwise perfectly innocent and valid program that nobody would know it was there. They might even have done it. And it might well already be in Longhorn, or whatever they call the next version of Windows. Time for another look at Linux, methinks. Of course, this whole issue is caused by an industry that can't accept, and refuses to adapt to, a fundamental change to its business model. John It's immaterial to me anyway. I would never buy a music CD that required the use of onboard player software. It's such an obvious gateway that I would avoid it like something to really avoid. I do the same with catalogue CDs that require software installation. Just the data, please. On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:48:23 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] If enough people get to hear of this, Sony stand to lose a gigantic amount of money. On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:47:35 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html What I found really shocking was not so much that Sony did it, as that it did it so badly. With the resources it has at its disposal, Sony has shown itself to be managed by the same sort of plonkers that infest every other organisation. You could expect a multinational corporation to act in a high handed manner. I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs. Well, the other side of that is that they claim that they've got several titles out with that same software for the last eight months or so, and this is the first time anyone has noticed. And I'm not hearing much of a hue and cry outside the serious geek contingent (of which I am a part). All anyone outside the serious geek department might notice is that their computer now seems to be running a little slower, and even that isn't likely. William Robb
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair Serious newspapers maintain a very solid wall between editorial and advertising sales. No editor of a major US newspaper would ever bow to a publisher by inserting a story just to sell ad space. Depending on the personality of the publication, many editors WILL go with stories that are likely to increase readership. But even on the car magazines I've worked for, no one ever was able to push a story through to help an advertiser. Aside from the obvious moral issues, there's a practical reason as well. For every advertiser you please, you'll piss off half a dozen. Paul, you are changing the subject. No one has said anything about the press getting into bed with it's advertisers, just that they commonly run lurid stories that are designed to sell more copy, increase readership, etc. William Robb
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/04 Fri PM 01:21:14 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs. On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:48:23 +, mike wilson wrote: I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. Well, the other side of that is that they claim that they've got several titles out with that same software for the last eight months or so, and this is the first time anyone has noticed. And I'm not hearing much of a hue and cry outside the serious geek contingent (of which I am a part). TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ Er, it _is_ cloaking technology. The real fun will begin when the nasty boys (and girls) start taking advantage of the cloak. Damned Klingons! The point that I was trying to make (and apparently failiing) was that a company with Sony's rescources should be able to do something like this either completely above board, if it was legitimate, or in a way that gave little or no possibility of discovery if it was otherwise. Neither seems to have been the case. Very poor strategic and tactical management. Entirely typical, in my experience. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
Doug Franklin wrote: I'm not hearing much of a hue and cry outside the serious geek contingent (of which I am a part). TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ Probably because only the serious geek contingent understands the discussion. I took a look and ran into a major language barrier. :) I think I got the *general* gist, but I live with a professional computer nerd. Now, if it makes it into mainstream media, translated into ordinary mainstream media English, then perhaps the hue and cry might be raised. ERNR seriously not a computer geek
Re: PESO - The Scribe
I love the picture especially with the coffee cup in the front. Sets the mood. Of course the lighting and the exposure enhances the mood. Everything looks great. BTW, did you tell her that you are taking her shot? What kind of lens did you use and was it shot in BW (film) or converted later on? Gaurav On 11/4/05, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
Re: Big power source
From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net At this point I'll preface my regards by saying that I don't claim to be an expert on batteries, just someone who became quite interested and looke into it a bit. It's getting abit off topic for photo as well! Is that 6v 12AH ? If so it should last about the same as five or six sets of reasonable NiMh AAs. Why not get a nice 400AH battery charge it up once a year :-) Not quite that simple. You get more benefit than the simple math predicts, since batteries are more efficient at lower [dis]charge rates. I will admit to making asumptions regarding camera use. If the camera is left on continuosly with the LCD lit the discharge rate (although the same whatever batteries are used) may well be sufficiently high that it's rate relative to the batatery size comes in to play. However remember that you have the opposite and counterbalancing effect as well in that each battery has a self discharge rate and the bigger the battery the higher the self discharge rate and hence the more wastage. As you say - not so simple. As a caution Lead Acid batteries tend to be ideal/designed for high discharge rates whilst essentially remaining fully charged all the time (think of car batteries here). When used for what I imagine will be your long very slow discharge rate usage they can tend to develope a memory effect that makes them both harder to charge properly, and also their ability to supply large currents diminishes. Not really... they may be designed to *tolerate* high current levels, and that may diminish their deep-cycle capacity a bit, but they are still the same battery chemistry. Lead acid batteries (nor NiMH, nor NiCd except in extremely specially-constructed circumstances) do NOT have a memory effect. This is the accepted theory for lead acid batteries. However experiments have shown that (for a given amount of discharge) if the discharge rate is fast it is possible to recharge the battery faster than if discharge is slow demonstrating that a memory effect is there. Granted that memory effect is the least of your worries with lead acid technology though. The death of a lead acid battery is from leaving it discharged for any length of time. One of those digital battery conditioner thingies that pulse charges and continually maintains battery condition might be ideal for a permanent bench setup - there again it will probably cost more than a small battery :-) Those pulse chargers have been shown to be little more than snake oil. Wot's wrong with snake oil? In actual fact I once owned one of these and apart from being generally very satisfied (and amazed) at the capability of a tiny little box to maintain a bank of assorted large batteries in good health I have direct evidence that it does something special in the case of totally discharged and unusable lead acid batteries. My father had a big 500 AH leisure battery which had been left discharged and was essentially dead and various large and expensive chargers failed completely to do anything at all - presumably because there was no lead exposed at all on the plates. Connecting it to my little matchbox started it up without any trouble (although charging it completely on that would have taken weeks so the job was finished on a conventional charger). This was a device that had specific functionality for this, if it sensed that no charge was taking it pulsed several hundred volts to start the charge process. The deeper you discharge the battery the shorter will be it's life, ideally you would charge it up when it reaches 80% charge but this would mean charging it almost as often as you would a set of AAs. If you look at life cycles of lead-acid batts from a manufacturer's datasheet, you'll see that's not the case. The total *energy* moved in and out of the battery is fairly constant... discharge 25% and it will last 2x as many cycles as a 50% discharge. There is a lot of conflicting information about, here's some research by Motorolla into battery cycles and depth of discharge, quote as follows: 'Depth of discharge (DOD) is defined as the level to which battery voltage is taken during discharge. For instance, 100 percent DOD means that the battery voltage has been taken down to the lowest level recommended by suppliers. Twenty percent DOD means that 20 percent of the battery capacity has been removed. This level of DOD is often referred to as a shallow discharge. Discharging to less than the recommended voltage is known as overdischarge. The shallower the discharge, the more cycles the battery will provide. This is true for all battery chemistries.The relationship between DOD and cycle life is logarithmic. In other words, the number of cycles yielded by a battery goes up exponentially the lower the DOD.' Note the 'exponential' rather than linear i.e it's not a simple state of you get the same total
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
Please be specific, John. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: John Forbes Given that the D offers considerably more control and better facilities than the deviants, I have to say that I'm with Tom C on this. From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem now is the D is almost 2 years old, and the D(eviants) are less camera than the D.
Re: Battery Behavior - istDS
On 3 Nov 2005 at 22:24, Rob Smith wrote: I believe this is because NiMh batteries have low internal resistance. Thus they are able to provide high (or at least sufficient) current to meet the cameras operational needs until they have discharged sufficiently to reach the voltage threshold at which the camera ceases to function. This characteristic means that camera operation is normally reliable until cutoff threshold is reached, in fact you might criticise the D for having rather too high a cutoff threshold and hence 'wasting' battery capacity. True, and according to the spec sheets for my Sanyo 2500mAh AA Ni-MH batteries it pays to ensure that they go through full charge/discharge cycles. Contrary to marketing blurb Ni-MH batteries don't provide an optimum discharge curve or internal resistance unless they are properly exercised :-) The following document is a very informative and interesting read: http://www.sanyo.com/batteries/pdfs/twicellT_E.pdf Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
Sony doesn't seem to be too good at this sort of thing. A few years ago it was copy protection on audio CDs. Undefeatable, they called it. They licensed the technology to quite a few other companies. Some kid with a sharpie beat it. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,52665,00.html Some time ago I purchased a Sony CD-RW drive. I think it was on sale. Once I had the drive installed I found that it wouldn't work with my burning software of choice. After a few google searches it became obvious that no burning software except Sony's would work with the drive. Apparently, Sony refused to share the drive specs with other software makers. Sony, of course, shipped a nagware version of their own software with the drive and wanted me to cough up another $30 for the version that would handle an ISO file. Back to the store it went. I'm still voting with my wallet. Since about 2000 or 2001 I haven't purchased a single Sony branded product (TV, stereo, music CD, computer, nothing). I would guess that I have probably bought something containing Sony components. On 11/4/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the second point is this: If Sony are prepared to act like this, what might that even bigger and more ruthless company, Microsoft, be prepared to do? Sony's inept effort was easy for a competent programmer to spot, but Microsoft could embed something so deeply into an otherwise perfectly innocent and valid program that nobody would know it was there. They might even have done it. And it might well already be in Longhorn, or whatever they call the next version of Windows. Time for another look at Linux, methinks. I like Linux. I ran Slackware for the last few years and liked it. But it requires some hands-on to get it the way you want it. Very little is automagical. It still resides on the laptop. My workstation is running Ubuntu. It's worth a look. http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
The sky is...
Floating? Hovering? A mixed message in this report: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1101sid=a2tghsPwTG78refer=japan At Konica-Minolta, it seems to be falling :( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1101refer=japansid=acMBUEtd4Qlk -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Big power source
My intention is to charge the big battery every time the camera LCD tells me its depleted. I'll go on doing this until the battery dies then I'll get another for the princely sum of 8Euro -- in about 2012. The price may have gone up (or down) by then of course. Outside in the forest I'll use NiMH charged with a La Crosse charger. When they die I'll get more. Don Rob Smith wrote: From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net At this point I'll preface my regards by saying that I don't claim to be an expert on batteries, just someone who became quite interested and looke into it a bit. It's getting abit off topic for photo as well! Is that 6v 12AH ? If so it should last about the same as five or six sets of reasonable NiMh AAs. Why not get a nice 400AH battery charge it up once a year :-) Not quite that simple. You get more benefit than the simple math predicts, since batteries are more efficient at lower [dis]charge rates. I will admit to making asumptions regarding camera use. If the camera is left on continuosly with the LCD lit the discharge rate (although the same whatever batteries are used) may well be sufficiently high that it's rate relative to the batatery size comes in to play. However remember that you have the opposite and counterbalancing effect as well in that each battery has a self discharge rate and the bigger the battery the higher the self discharge rate and hence the more wastage. As you say - not so simple. As a caution Lead Acid batteries tend to be ideal/designed for high discharge rates whilst essentially remaining fully charged all the time (think of car batteries here). When used for what I imagine will be your long very slow discharge rate usage they can tend to develope a memory effect that makes them both harder to charge properly, and also their ability to supply large currents diminishes. Not really... they may be designed to *tolerate* high current levels, and that may diminish their deep-cycle capacity a bit, but they are still the same battery chemistry. Lead acid batteries (nor NiMH, nor NiCd except in extremely specially-constructed circumstances) do NOT have a memory effect. This is the accepted theory for lead acid batteries. However experiments have shown that (for a given amount of discharge) if the discharge rate is fast it is possible to recharge the battery faster than if discharge is slow demonstrating that a memory effect is there. Granted that memory effect is the least of your worries with lead acid technology though. The death of a lead acid battery is from leaving it discharged for any length of time. One of those digital battery conditioner thingies that pulse charges and continually maintains battery condition might be ideal for a permanent bench setup - there again it will probably cost more than a small battery :-) Those pulse chargers have been shown to be little more than snake oil. Wot's wrong with snake oil? In actual fact I once owned one of these and apart from being generally very satisfied (and amazed) at the capability of a tiny little box to maintain a bank of assorted large batteries in good health I have direct evidence that it does something special in the case of totally discharged and unusable lead acid batteries. My father had a big 500 AH leisure battery which had been left discharged and was essentially dead and various large and expensive chargers failed completely to do anything at all - presumably because there was no lead exposed at all on the plates. Connecting it to my little matchbox started it up without any trouble (although charging it completely on that would have taken weeks so the job was finished on a conventional charger). This was a device that had specific functionality for this, if it sensed that no charge was taking it pulsed several hundred volts to start the charge process. The deeper you discharge the battery the shorter will be it's life, ideally you would charge it up when it reaches 80% charge but this would mean charging it almost as often as you would a set of AAs. If you look at life cycles of lead-acid batts from a manufacturer's datasheet, you'll see that's not the case. The total *energy* moved in and out of the battery is fairly constant... discharge 25% and it will last 2x as many cycles as a 50% discharge. There is a lot of conflicting information about, here's some research by Motorolla into battery cycles and depth of discharge, quote as follows: 'Depth of discharge (DOD) is defined as the level to which battery voltage is taken during discharge. For instance, 100 percent DOD means that the battery voltage has been taken down to the lowest level recommended by suppliers. Twenty percent DOD means that 20 percent of the battery capacity has been removed. This level of DOD is often referred to as a shallow discharge. Discharging to less than the recommended voltage is
Re: Asahi Pentax introduction dates (was: Best M42 Camera?)
Mark Pickett wrote: I was thinking, interestingly enough...Since Pentax was a Zeiss(?) trademark that Asahi bought - That's not sure. Zeiss Jena only used the Pentax name in eastern countries, for their line of 8mm cine projectors. They also registered the Pentax brand name in South Africa (and perhaps Finland?). For that reason Asahi had to market their early Pentax models as Asahiflex there. According to early info from Asahi Opt Co., Pentax was just short for Pentaprism-Asahiflex which couldn't be enough a proper name (those were the clever days at AOC, far before *ist-series and such odd naming). Apparently, Asahi started using the Pentax name worldwide without even knowing that Zeiss Jena was already using it somewhere. Then they eventually found some kind of agreement, leaving the Pentax name to Asahi. Pentax = PENTaprism + contAX- right? I've read this in several places I'm afraid it's a simple guess by book authors. In fact Zeiss never adopted the Pentax name for their SLR's. And thus is Pentacon = PENTAprism + CONtax?? That could be, but it also could be just a name sounding well. Dario
Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:48:23 +, mike wilson wrote: I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. Well, the other side of that is that they claim that they've got several titles out with that same software for the last eight months or so, and this is the first time anyone has noticed. And I'm not hearing much of a hue and cry outside the serious geek contingent (of which I am a part). TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ Er, it _is_ cloaking technology. The real fun will begin when the nasty boys (and girls) start taking advantage of the cloak. Damned Klingons! Yep. It is a matter of *when* the virus writers start to exploit it, not if. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - The Scribe
- Original Message - From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html NICE! Great light and tonality. Great composition and DOF too! Christian
Re: OT: Battery Tester for nonrechargeable Lithium AA Batteries.
Nearly full voltage, but not quite. If you have an accurate voltmeter you can cross reference the voltage (and temperature) and look up the state of charge assuming you have the relevant data tables. Once upon a time I had these for lead/acid batteries but presumably thay can be obtained for other types as well. Rob. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would guess even an almost depleted battery will show nearly full voltage with no load. The problem is that testing is a catch 22. If you provide adequate load to really test the batteries, you'll drain them. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 03/11/2005
Re: PESO - The Scribe
On 11/4/05, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Comments, as always, welcomed. great mood. terrific light. love the dof. wonderful photo! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Big power source
At this point I'll preface my regards by saying that I don't claim to be an expert on batteries, just someone who became quite interested and looke into it a bit. It's getting abit off topic for photo as well! I'm not an expert either (nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn), but I did work on lead acid battery equalizer circuits in a prototype hybrid electric car for my M.S. in EE. Not quite that simple. You get more benefit than the simple math predicts, since batteries are more efficient at lower [dis]charge rates. I will admit to making asumptions regarding camera use. If the camera is left on continuosly with the LCD lit the discharge rate (although the same whatever batteries are used) may well be sufficiently high that it's rate relative to the batatery size comes in to play. However remember that you have the opposite and counterbalancing effect as well in that each battery has a self discharge rate and the bigger the battery the higher the self discharge rate and hence the more wastage. As you say - not so simple. Sure, in absolute terms the discharge rate is higher for a larger Ah battery... so the relatively small drain of the camera becomes less significant compared to the self-discharge. At these rates, however, the self-discharge current is very small... nominally 2-3% per *month* for lead-acid IIRC. That's about 2-3 years for a full discharge, or about C/20e3... :) This is the accepted theory for lead acid batteries. However experiments have shown that (for a given amount of discharge) if the discharge rate is fast it is possible to recharge the battery faster than if discharge is slow demonstrating that a memory effect is there. Granted that memory effect is the least of your worries with lead acid technology though. Memory effect is often abused terminology. The original definition of it was that if a cell was discharged repeatedly to exactly the same non-zero state-of-charge (SOC), it would eventually be incapable of discharging further than that level. What you are describing is some sort of rate-dependent charge/discharge efficiency. Those pulse chargers have been shown to be little more than snake oil. Wot's wrong with snake oil? In actual fact I once owned one of these and apart from being generally very satisfied (and amazed) at the capability of a tiny little box to maintain a bank of assorted large batteries in good health I have direct evidence that it does something special in the case of totally discharged and unusable lead acid batteries. My father had a big 500 AH leisure battery which had been left discharged and was essentially dead and various large and expensive chargers failed completely to do anything at all - presumably because there was no lead exposed at all on the plates. Connecting it to my little matchbox started it up without any trouble (although charging it completely on that would have taken weeks so the job was finished on a conventional charger). This was a device that had specific functionality for this, if it sensed that no charge was taking it pulsed several hundred volts to start the charge process. I've heard of these sorts of last ditch efforts to revive cells. In fact, I've done it myself (think: charge a large cap up to a few dozen volts and discharge into a NiMH cell). It will sometimes slightly resurrect a dead battery, but it will still be pretty unhealthy. The snake-oil debunking I read about was whether or not the pulse charging increased the longevity of a *healthy* battery. A different situation. There is a lot of conflicting information about, here's some research by Motorolla into battery cycles and depth of discharge, quote as follows: 'Depth of discharge (DOD) is defined as the level to which battery voltage is taken during discharge. For instance, 100 percent DOD means that the battery voltage has been taken down to the lowest level recommended by suppliers. Twenty percent DOD means that 20 percent of the battery capacity has been removed. This level of DOD is often referred to as a shallow discharge. Discharging to less than the recommended voltage is known as overdischarge. The shallower the discharge, the more cycles the battery will provide. This is true for all battery chemistries.The relationship between DOD and cycle life is logarithmic. In other words, the number of cycles yielded by a battery goes up exponentially the lower the DOD.' Note the 'exponential' rather than linear i.e it's not a simple state of you get the same total energy lifetime for both deep and shallow cycles. From practical experience rather than theory I would also say that although the council of perfection for a lead acid battery is to generally to keep it at 80% charge, in practice if you can keep it above 50% and ideally don't leave it for any extended period below 80% you will get really good battery life. Logarithmic doesn't inherently mean it that much
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
-no commander flash, Built a long-cable shutter release You misunderstand me. The D's flash can function as a wireless commander (Commands wireless flashes but doesn't add to the exposure) the others cannot. Major flash feature if you shoot with multiple flashes. Notable 'Pro' feature My bad. Yes, I can see how this would be useful for complex flash arrangements. Dumber slaves controlled by the (included) built-in. no analogue meter readout. ? You mean pretend analog with sliding scale inside the viewfinder? My friend's Canon Rebel XT has that and I prefer the +-EV in the -DS display. Yes, much faster than EV readouts for me. Different strokes Probably more a matter of what you're used to. - bigger LCD, Even on the non-2 models? Yep, D is 1.8, DS is 2, DL and DS2 are 2.5 The DS is a *HUGE* improvement to the Canon POS on the Rebel XT. The DL/DS2 is even better. Stunning when I saw it in the store a week or so ago. - spot white balance Shooting RAW almost eliminates white balance concerns Yes, but spot white balance is a major win when shooting JPEG, and most will shoot JPEG at some point. I will not get into another JPEG vs. RAW argument I will not get into another JPEG vs. RAW argument I will not get into another JPEG vs. RAW argument Sorry... what was I talking about? :) I actually missed a few. D has HyperProgram (Shiftable program), 4 program lines(Normal, fast, DoF and MTF) and HyperManual. I'll bet I'm just blissfully ignorant of these other modes. Chances are if I knew what they were and/or if my camera had them, I'd use them and be happier. The single wheel and idiosyncracies of the P/Av/Tv/M with K/M lenses are a bit annoying at times. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: PESO - The Scribe
Absolutely fantastic. Nicely done Marco. Dave On 11/4/05, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
RE: A3 photo printer
On 4 Nov 2005 at 8:28, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: Take a look at the Epson 2400 as well as the 4800 (which is an A2 printer). I am seriously considering the 4800 as my next printer to replace my current 2000 with CIS (continuous inking system). A3+ size is a bit too small at times. I swore I wouldn't buy another printer but the 4800 does look very nice :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: A3 photo printer
On 4 Nov 2005 at 13:21, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: I've just ordered the R2400 + a new HP computer with 2Gigabyte RAM (is that enough?). I hope to get my own web page up soon... Pål 2GB will do just fine! Maybe. I'm having big hassles with memory working on large panos at the moment, one project today was comprised of eight 1.2GB files. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: The sky is...
I'd say the sky is clearing. Definitely good news on both the digital SLR and financial fronts. Note that the stock value increased following the announcement. The street knows. Paul On Nov 4, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: Floating? Hovering? A mixed message in this report: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=1101sid=a2tghsPwTG78refer=japan At Konica-Minolta, it seems to be falling :( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=1101refer=japansid=acMBUEtd4Qlk -- Regards, Lucas
Re: The Scribe - MMA
On Nov 3, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Excellent, Marco! Very nicely done. You made the skin tones just right. I could wish that the coffee cup wasn't there but that can't be helped. Godfrey
Re: The sky is...
Op Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:18:28 +0100 schreef Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd say the sky is clearing. Definitely good news on both the digital SLR and financial fronts. I tend to agree, but note that these results are for the whole group, not just imaging. Seperate figures seem to be available on the pentax.co.jp site, but only in Japanese... Note that the stock value increased following the announcement. The street knows. The street would know how to earn money on a toppling company as well, so that isn't conclusive either :o) Note that K-M stock went up as well... -- Regards, Lucas On Nov 4, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: Floating? Hovering? A mixed message in this report: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=1101sid=a2tghsPwTG78refer=japan At Konica-Minolta, it seems to be falling :( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=1101refer=japansid=acMBUEtd4Qlk
Re: A3 photo printer
How long did that take? :-) Dave On 11/5/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Nov 2005 at 13:21, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: I've just ordered the R2400 + a new HP computer with 2Gigabyte RAM (is that enough?). I hope to get my own web page up soon... Pål 2GB will do just fine! Maybe. I'm having big hassles with memory working on large panos at the moment, one project today was comprised of eight 1.2GB files. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: A3 photo printer
On Nov 3, 2005, at 10:28 PM, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: Take a look at the Epson 2400 as well as the 4800 (which is an A2 printer). I am seriously considering the 4800 as my next printer to replace my current 2000 with CIS (continuous inking system). A3+ size is a bit too small at times. I was very interested in the 4000/4800 too, but it is a much larger purchase ... price, size, supplies, etc. I decided to run with the smaller size for the present as I need the larger print size somewhat infrequently at present. I'll be interested to hear your experience with the 4800 if you buy one. Godfrey
Re: The sky is...
This part sounds good: Pentax is trying to expand its medical equipment business, whichsells endoscopes and other gear, to reduce reliance on the digitalcamera business. The company is also focusing on developing moreprofitable single-lens reflex digital cameras geared for professionalsand hobbyists.
Re: The Scribe - MMA
Nicely composed. Good balance. I like this very much. She could pass for Whoopi:-). Paul On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Excellent, Marco! Very nicely done. You made the skin tones just right. I could wish that the coffee cup wasn't there but that can't be helped. Godfrey
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
Maybe... Bob W wrote: Is that where the expression 'go all the way' comes from? g -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 November 2005 06:18 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair Here's my example. A man picks up a female hitchhiker on the approaches to the George Washington Bridge in NY. They hit it off and when they reach Fort Lee NJ they immediately go to a motel. If the decision to do this is made before the Hudson River crossing the Mann act has been violated, if the decision is made after arriving in NJ the Mann act hasn't. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
George III was insane. mike wilson wrote: From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/04 Fri AM 07:47:30 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair You'all need to get aligned with another monarchy. Don't worry, Bill. They're starting to grow their own dynasties (Kennedy, Bush, Clinton). Already they're ruled by another George III... (Washington, Bush, Bush) g Didn't George III go insane? vbg - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO - The Scribe
Wow. Excellent light, composition, mood. Marco Alpert wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
The word lesser implies a disparagement.
The DS/DS2 bodies offers the same image quality and viewfinder
quality as the D. They have fewer features. But to a person looking
at the results, and who doesn't need/want/care about the D's
additional features, they have advantages. No one can tell the
difference upon seeing a print.
In the olden days, the same was true of a Nikon FM vs a Nikon F3. And
people often disparaged the FM as being a lesser camera too. It was
stupid then... Not much has changed.
Godfrey
On Nov 4, 2005, at 4:14 AM, John Forbes wrote:
Given that the D offers considerably more control and better
facilities than the deviants, I have to say that I'm with Tom C
on this.
Which is not to knock the deviants.
'D{eviants)'. I like it :-)
But you won't get away saying they are lesser cameras than the D.
The problem now is the D is almost 2 years old, and the D
(eviants) are less camera than the D.
Ping Mark Roberts (or anyone else about VS1 70-210mm lens)
A friend of mine just bought a Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm lens (1st generation) after seeing mine (3rd-generation). He's a C*non owner, so he got the lens in screwmount. It's got a couple of issues that I'm thinking of trying to repair, but I cannot figure out how to break into the friggin' thing. I've done CLA on a few different primes and zooms before, but I can't figure this one out. Desirable repairs include: - Fix auto-aperture pin. It was bent/jammed. I bent it straight as best I could but it'd be nice to make sure all the linkages are correct. - Clean one of the inner elemements. Has a bit of fungus on it. - Lube the helicoil. It's a bit stiff on the zoom. Anyone had one of these beasts apart? Thanks, -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: PESO - The Scribe
I was with Marco that day. He was using the DS fitted with the FA77 Limited for this shot. Godfrey On Nov 4, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: I love the picture especially with the coffee cup in the front. Sets the mood. Of course the lighting and the exposure enhances the mood. Everything looks great. BTW, did you tell her that you are taking her shot? What kind of lens did you use and was it shot in BW (film) or converted later on? Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html
Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
What they've done is esoteric enough that most people won't get it. Most mainstream reporters won't get it, and even if they do their editors won't get it. The story will circulate on the Internet, amongst techno geeks, and the vast majority of consumers will never know. mike wilson wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] If enough people get to hear of this, Sony stand to lose a gigantic amount of money. On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:47:35 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html What I found really shocking was not so much that Sony did it, as that it did it so badly. With the resources it has at its disposal, Sony has shown itself to be managed by the same sort of plonkers that infest every other organisation. You could expect a multinational corporation to act in a high handed manner. I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Best M42 Camera?
Good luck, the black Fs are probably one of the rarest of the rare. Markus Maurer wrote: Thanks Paul, I will have a look at auctions for a black F now ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:53 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? The Spotmatic F works fine with 1.5 volt batteries. Paul -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
They already did, they were the ones who put in the hooks that make adware and malware possible, on purpose, to _serve_ _you_ better. John Forbes wrote: I agree. And it raises two other questions. The first, posited by a respondent on one of the lists that mention this outrage, was: What now is the meaning of trusted content?. If you can't trust Sony not to illegally and deviously infect your PC with damaging virus-like software, who can you trust? And the second point is this: If Sony are prepared to act like this, what might that even bigger and more ruthless company, Microsoft, be prepared to do? Sony's inept effort was easy for a competent programmer to spot, but Microsoft could embed something so deeply into an otherwise perfectly innocent and valid program that nobody would know it was there. They might even have done it. And it might well already be in Longhorn, or whatever they call the next version of Windows. Time for another look at Linux, methinks. Of course, this whole issue is caused by an industry that can't accept, and refuses to adapt to, a fundamental change to its business model. John On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:48:23 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] If enough people get to hear of this, Sony stand to lose a gigantic amount of money. On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:47:35 -, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html What I found really shocking was not so much that Sony did it, as that it did it so badly. With the resources it has at its disposal, Sony has shown itself to be managed by the same sort of plonkers that infest every other organisation. You could expect a multinational corporation to act in a high handed manner. I would also expect that it would try to do so effectively, discreetly and in a manner that would draw as little attention (of the bad sort) to itself as possible. Not the case here. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs.
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/11/04 Fri PM 02:43:12 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: OT: Interesting article for those who buy Sony music CDs. Sony doesn't seem to be too good at this sort of thing. A few years ago it was copy protection on audio CDs. Undefeatable, they called it. They licensed the technology to quite a few other companies. Some kid with a sharpie beat it. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,52665,00.html No story content for me. Some time ago I purchased a Sony CD-RW drive. I think it was on sale. Once I had the drive installed I found that it wouldn't work with my burning software of choice. After a few google searches it became obvious that no burning software except Sony's would work with the drive. Apparently, Sony refused to share the drive specs with other software makers. Sony, of course, shipped a nagware version of their own software with the drive and wanted me to cough up another $30 for the version that would handle an ISO file. Back to the store it went. I'm still voting with my wallet. Since about 2000 or 2001 I haven't purchased a single Sony branded product (TV, stereo, music CD, computer, nothing). I would guess that I have probably bought something containing Sony components. On 11/4/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the second point is this: If Sony are prepared to act like this, what might that even bigger and more ruthless company, Microsoft, be prepared to do? Sony's inept effort was easy for a competent programmer to spot, but Microsoft could embed something so deeply into an otherwise perfectly innocent and valid program that nobody would know it was there. They might even have done it. And it might well already be in Longhorn, or whatever they call the next version of Windows. Time for another look at Linux, methinks. I like Linux. I ran Slackware for the last few years and liked it. But it requires some hands-on to get it the way you want it. Very little is automagical. It still resides on the laptop. My workstation is running Ubuntu. It's worth a look. http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
Cory Papenfuss wrote: --SNIP-- - spot white balance Shooting RAW almost eliminates white balance concerns Yes, but spot white balance is a major win when shooting JPEG, and most will shoot JPEG at some point. I will not get into another JPEG vs. RAW argument I will not get into another JPEG vs. RAW argument I will not get into another JPEG vs. RAW argument Sorry... what was I talking about? :) I shoot RAW myself (In part, because I don't think of white balance, since it's not a film thing), but I see the value of spot White Balance. I actually missed a few. D has HyperProgram (Shiftable program), 4 program lines(Normal, fast, DoF and MTF) and HyperManual. I'll bet I'm just blissfully ignorant of these other modes. Chances are if I knew what they were and/or if my camera had them, I'd use them and be happier. The single wheel and idiosyncracies of the P/Av/Tv/M with K/M lenses are a bit annoying at times. -Cory You use HyperManual with K/M lenses, as the DS/DL/DS2 offer Tv HyperManual with those lenses. With A lenses, the D can set Tv, Av or both (full program) with one press of the Green Button. HyperProgram allows shiftable program in P mode (Essentially shifts into either Av or Tv depending which wheel you use to shift the program, Green button Resets). The program lines just changes Program Mode exposure bias, Normal is the regular, Hi-Speed biases to high shutter speeds, DoF biases to small aperture and MTF biases towards the sharpest apertures based on info from the lens (MTF requires an FA or DA lens IIRC, as those are the only ones which can communicate MTF data). -Adam
Re: GESO: A Day Around Union Square
On Nov 3, 2005, at 10:10 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Gallery Every So Often ... This is a small set of photos from last Friday's visit to San Francisco with Shel. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/GESO-foray01/ Godfrey, this is excellent as (almost ;-) ) usual. Thanks for the (almost ;-) compliment... hehehe. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/GESO-foray01/source/2.html is my favorite... Although not high key per se, it has rather high key mood if you know what I mean. Hmm. This is what I'd consider high key ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/33.htm I guess I generally don't ascribe high key to the mood, rather to the lighting. The only one I don't quite understand is this: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/GESO-foray01/source/8.html Why you included it? Um, because I liked it? and it fit as a going home photo at the end of the display? Godfrey
Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
Well said, G ... pretty much my sentiments as well, although, it might be
pointed out that, in some respects, the DS and DS2 offer more in some areas
than the D. ;-))
Shel
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 11/4/2005 7:45:28 AM
Subject: Re: *ist-DS saving zero-byte files occasionally.
The word lesser implies a disparagement.
The DS/DS2 bodies offers the same image quality and viewfinder
quality as the D. They have fewer features. But to a person looking
at the results, and who doesn't need/want/care about the D's
additional features, they have advantages. No one can tell the
difference upon seeing a print.
In the olden days, the same was true of a Nikon FM vs a Nikon F3. And
people often disparaged the FM as being a lesser camera too. It was
stupid then... Not much has changed.
Godfrey
On Nov 4, 2005, at 4:14 AM, John Forbes wrote:
Given that the D offers considerably more control and better
facilities than the deviants, I have to say that I'm with Tom C
on this.
Which is not to knock the deviants.
'D{eviants)'. I like it :-)
But you won't get away saying they are lesser cameras than the D.
The problem now is the D is almost 2 years old, and the D
(eviants) are less camera than the D.
*istDL vs LUMIX-LX1
An interesting comparison between the *istDL and the semiprofessional compact from Panasonic, LUMIX DMC-LX1 with a Leica lens, and Ricoh's GR thrown in for good measure. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/longterm/2005/11/04/2628.html I am somewhat suprised by the differences, despite having a higher resolution, the new compacts render the images much less clearly than the Pentax. Perhaps I should have said that am relieved... Swedish retailer Cyberphoto aslo notes that the LX1 offers a middle class image quality. So perhaps the smaller and much cheaper Optio S6 may be a reasonable alternative to the LUMIX for some. However, Phil Askey writes that the LX1 – is capable of delivering stunning resolution, sharpness and detail --- but is unsuable above ISO 100 because of a high noise level. Well, I'm not impressed by the LX1 PCWatch samples, they look rather unsharp to my eye.
Re: PESO - The Scribe
Marco Alpert wrote: Another from Starbucks: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso30.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco Superb shot, love the tonality, the 'grain' and the low-key look. -Adam
Re: Best M42 Camera?
According to the AHOC website, ( http://www.aohc.it/slr02e.htm ) both the SPF and ESII were introduced in 1973, the introduction may have been simultaneous. Then again I saw ESII cameras in stores before SPF cameras. I can only go by my experience. Kenneth Waller wrote: Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. I believe you're wrong about this. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best M42 Camera? The Electro Spotmatics, and ES cameras actually came first. Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. Andre Langevin wrote: Is the F a later model... Yes, it is the last mechanical Spotmatic. Then came the Electro-Spotmatics. how do I see if a Spotmatic can handle 1.5 volt batteries? They can all handle the 1.5 battery. All the details at http://www.aohc.it/batte.htm ...to fit my lovely SMC Takumar 85mm 1.8... A black F has class... Andre -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Best M42 Camera?
Maybe even the ESII camera was introduced before the Spotmatic F. I believe you're wrong about this. Kenneth Waller Peter is right but that was a tough one. ESII came out in june 73, F in july... Andre
Re: *istDL vs LUMIX-LX1
The Panasonic LX1 has been noted in other reviews to have higher than average noise, even at lowest native iso, but also higher than average sharpness. I think the photos presented here bear that out. I haven't seen any samples of photos taken with it stored in RAW format and processed in Adobe Camera Raw although the resolution chart detail at the bottom of this page shows an intriguing possibility there: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasoniclx1/page14.asp Looking at the comparisons on this Japanese page, I'd bet that all of them were made using in-camera JPEG rendering. I've been quite interested in both the LX1 and the GR-D as it would be very nice to have a quality pocketable camera again. They're the only two that are close, far as I can see. I will not buy a camera that does not have RAW format capability, or is not supported by Adobe Camera Raw (both of these are). I don't expect them to compete with the much larger sensor in a DSLR at the limits, however. Godfrey On Nov 4, 2005, at 8:03 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: An interesting comparison between the *istDL and the semiprofessional compact from Panasonic, LUMIX DMC-LX1 with a Leica lens, and Ricoh's GR thrown in for good measure. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/longterm/2005/11/04/2628.html I am somewhat suprised by the differences, despite having a higher resolution, the new compacts render the images much less clearly than the Pentax. Perhaps I should have said that am relieved... Swedish retailer Cyberphoto aslo notes that the LX1 offers a middle class image quality. So perhaps the smaller and much cheaper Optio S6 may be a reasonable alternative to the LUMIX for some. However, Phil Askey writes that the LX1 – is capable of delivering stunning resolution, sharpness and detail --- but is unsuable above ISO 100 because of a high noise level. Well, I'm not impressed by the LX1 PCWatch samples, they look rather unsharp to my eye.
PESO: Why I like continuous autofocus
Here's a shot of my grand daughter running toward me at full tilt on Halloween. Background is too busy, but I still like it. I've found for shooting a running child or even people walking on the street, continuous autofocus can be a real boon. Particularly when I'm feeling a bit lazy and don't want to do it manually. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3851604 Paul
Re: *istDL vs LUMIX-LX1
- Original Message - From: Bertil Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] An interesting comparison between the *istDL and the semiprofessional compact from Panasonic, LUMIX DMC-LX1 with a Leica lens, and Ricoh's GR thrown in for good measure. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/longterm/2005/11/04/2628.html I am somewhat suprised by the differences, despite having a higher resolution, the new compacts render the images much less clearly than the Pentax. Perhaps I should have said that am relieved... Higher resolution on a smaller sensor would probably contribute to issues with image quality. Christian
Re: A3 photo printer
On 5/11/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: Maybe. I'm having big hassles with memory working on large panos at the moment, one project today was comprised of eight 1.2GB files. You bloody great showoff!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: *istDL vs LUMIX-LX1
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Panasonic LX1 has been noted in other reviews to have higher than average noise, even at lowest native iso, Maybe I'm spoiled from using DSLRs but I find the noise on the Panasonic to be totally unacceptable. It makes the camera almost completely useless for what it is designed (most people are going to be trying to do snaps of family and friends in low light). I know nothing about business or marketing but how can Panasonic deliver a product with awful behavior like this? Are average consumers of this and similar cameras just unaware of it and accepting of it? I don't get it Christian
Re: Man Cleared Of Improper Photography At Public Fair
On 4/11/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: i'm not talking about censorship, cotty, i'm talking about common sense, Yes but one man's common sense is another's censorship, and vice versa Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
