Re: New to the PDML

2006-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jan 7, 2006, at 9:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


... At the monent i am looking for a
zoom in the 20-35mm range  would welcome any thoughts that may
helpful. ...


The Pentax FA20-35/4 AL lens is an excellent choice. Light, modest in  
size, sharp all the way through the range, minimal rectilinear  
distortion too. It's great on film or digital bodies. The feel is  
light on the zoom ring and very nice on the manual focus ring. Since  
I bought it, it's become just about my most used lens.


Godfrey



Re: PESO -- Not Monarch II

2006-01-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not sure but I think it's really a Viceroy.  They are very similar, 
the Viceroy is a mimic of a Monarch.


Bob Shell wrote:





Why did you title it Not Monarch?  Seems to be a Monarch.

I like the shot.

Bob








From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO -- Not Monarch II
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:30:21 -0500

This started out to be a photo of a flower, but an uninvited guest  
stopped by for a snack...


http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_!monarch2.html

Tech Info:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/250sec
vmc Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm F2.8 Varifocal @ f5.6

The Focus on the insect could have been better but I was really  
trying to shoot the flower after all...

I have to admit it would have been a poor enough photo of a flower.

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Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/1/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Which small island do you live on?

I think he means GB :-)

65KUSD buys you a run-of-the-mill door-handle in Edinburgh.

Kostas

OTOH, depends on which small island you live. My sister bought a half
acre plot on the Isle of Coll for a quid.




Cheers,
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Re: PAW: As Yet Untitled

2006-01-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/1/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have no idea what to call it yet, but something will eventually come
to me.  If it does, I'll let you know:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4009465

There's a relatively boring story behind this one, but I'll wait a bit
to share it (if I decide to share it at all - again, I'll let you
know).

Thanks in advance to those who look and comment.

Interesting. I'd call it 'Idation'.




Cheers,
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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/1/06, Kevin Waterson, discombobulated, unleashed:

I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to the
pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that the
person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst of
a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been charged
and a trial is due.

How can one be an 'ex-photog' ??


My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is working
for him?
Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
Is this really none of my business?

None of your business. 'under investigation' does not mean proven guilty. Yet.


Cheers,
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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How can one be an 'ex-photog' ??
The accused have been warned off photography by authorities.

 None of your business. 'under investigation' does not mean proven guilty. Yet.
These people do not dispute thier guilt.

I shall await trial, and if found guilty by the courts, publish it accross the 
land.
And maybe several other lands. Thanks for your reply

Kind regards
Kevin


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RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Bob W
As others have pointed out, he is innocent until proven guilty. This is true
even if he admits that he did it. He isn't working somewhere that children
are at risk. You should probably assume that if you know who he is, then the
store owner does too. 

If you say anything to the store owner you will be contributing to a moral
climate where the mere accusation of child abuse is seen as establishing
guilt, and which leads to lynch mobs patrolling the streets and destroying
pediatrician's houses - as happened here a few years ago.

But pending the outcome of the trial you might want to consider taking your
business elsewhere.

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Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 January 2006 03:23
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
 
 I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and 
 ventured to the pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I 
 was astounded that the person serving me was an ex-photog who 
 is currently in the midst of a child porn investigation. He 
 worked with his uncle who has been charged and a trial is due.
 
 My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is 
 working for him?
 Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
 Is this really none of my business?
 I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
 Kind regards
 Kevin
 
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 Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 
 
 



RE: Peso(s) How a nice day went wrong.

2006-01-08 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 January 2006 00:13
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Peso(s) How a nice day went wrong.
 
 Perry Pellechia wrote:
 
 Cesar,
 Sounds like the squirrels down in Florida are more 
 cooperative then the 
 rebel squirrels from South Carolina vbg.
 

 Probably older, moving more slowly ...
 

LOL! Good joke!

Bob 



Re: Camera shops and Monday's heat

2006-01-08 Thread Stephen


Thank you everyone who replied.

It was a Camera House store. They have now realized what it is and have told my 
lover there are none available in Australia.

Meanwhile in my wondering I went into two other camera stores. One said they 
only carry Hoya filters and Hoya say they don't have any, at least the're 
honest. The second simply said they had never heard of UV photographs.

I've been off line for these few days because the video card in one computer 
died and the mother board died in the other. The computer shop ran out of video 
cards on Tuesday! They also tell me that at one stage during the week half 
their shop floor ( they have double frontage, with average depth ) was covered 
with PCs either waiting for repair or pickup afterwards. They told me that one 
possible explanation was Monday's heat, but they also think some PCs were 
injured by stupidity.

The heat does make sense as we don't have air conditioning and both PCs were on 
till mid afternoon. Also my lover has heard of mobile phones and other gadgets 
simply giving up the ghost on Monday and Tuesday.

Anyway, I am still determined to get a UV pass filter! 


Stephen  



Re: E-mail test and questions.

2006-01-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert


Subject: Re: E-mail test and questions.





I had an 028 and 055 concurrently and my 055 never collapsed under the 
weight
of the 67 though I never did use it with my 400/4 :-) If the legs collapse 
on

an 055 generally tightening the lock-nut on the offending leg clamps will
remedy the problem. I still have an 058 but I tend only to use it locally 
as

it's just too big and heavy to lug about, the 028 is a bit lighter but not
much. The 055 is great as far as portability goes.


I was never able to get my 055 adjusted so that it's leg locks would word, 
and support a camera.


William Robb 





Re: RAW support for *istDL

2006-01-08 Thread Thibouille
Is it possible to make a script to auto extract jpg from PEFs ??

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Re: 30 years of the K1000.

2006-01-08 Thread keith_w

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Mac OSX can read Apple II files from the IIe and IIc as well. Anything 
that's in PRODOS format. I don't think it will read the original DOS 3 
files. I have quite a few PRODOS files that I moved over to the Mac.. I 
needed one a few years ago to prove authorship of some advertising I 
wrote for Mercedes back in the early eighties. Some people who had hoped 
to dismiss my claim were surprised to learn I had files complete with 
creation dates that were over twenty years old.

Paul


I have since dumped all my really old (ca.1986) floppies, so cannot 
check out how they might act with OSX, but...I do quite clearly recall 
that during the days when I was using OS 7.x and OS 8.x on my various 
Macs, those OS would NOT read IIGS files of any kind.

The finder told me the floppies were not readable.

Since I've installed OSX, I've not tried to read any old (pre-OS 5.x) 
floppies. I gave up on them a long time ago as a lost cause.


keith


On Jan 7, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Jan 7, 2006, at 2:09 PM, keith_w wrote:


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I moved my entire archives that go back to 1983, stored on 400-500  
3.5 floppies, to a single CD almost a decade ago




Impressive.
Of what did/does it comprise?
All manner of text and other files, such as images, spreadsheets, 
etc., all thrown together?

And once moved to the CD, all are readable?




Yes.



Pretty awesome, when you think about it.
Especially since a lot of the types of files one saves don't have a 
proper file reader available today.
I used to have a lot of files saved from working with them on my 
Apple IIGS. Not readable as of several years ago. I threw away the 
floppies.
I suppose I'll hear that so and so can read IIGS files, after the 
fact, but there you are.



Mac OS volume formats (MFS, HFS, HFS Plus, HFS Extended) are 
completely readable all the way back to the original in 1983-4 given a 
compatible drive (you have to use an external floppy drive since 2001 
or so). I believe Mac OS X can read Apple IIGS volumes too. Of course, 
Mac OS X reads all modern file system volumes (FAT, FAT32, UFS, NTFS, 
ISO9660, etc etc).


Godfrey





GESO: Belly

2006-01-08 Thread Derby Chang


My sister is having a baby.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index6/06_01_belly/index.htm


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Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Thibouille
Any good or bad?
Tempting on a 35mm camera...

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Re: GESO: Belly

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good work. Nicely composed and well executed. A valuable keepsake for 
your sister.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 7:03 AM, Derby Chang wrote:



My sister is having a baby.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index6/06_01_belly/index.htm


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Re: PESO -- Not Monarch II

2006-01-08 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 8, 2006, at 3:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I'm not sure but I think it's really a Viceroy.  They are very  
similar, the Viceroy is a mimic of a Monarch.


The Viceroy has a black band on the hind wing that is absent on  
Monarchs.  Side by side photos here:


http://www.cirrusimage.com/butterfly_viceroy.htm

Although the Viceroy in their example has a rather pale black band.   
This is much more typical:


http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/viceroy.htm

I've never seen a Viceroy completely lacking the black bands.  The  
front wing pattern is different in the two butterflies, too, but that  
is more subtle.


Bob



Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:26 AM, Cotty wrote:


OTOH, depends on which small island you live. My sister bought a half
acre plot on the Isle of Coll for a quid.


How long ago?

Bob



Re: RAW support for *istDL

2006-01-08 Thread David Savage
Is you don't mind fooling around with you OS settings try this:

http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg231411.html

I'm running WinXP and I got it to work. I find it very handy.

Dave

On 1/8/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to make a script to auto extract jpg from PEFs ??

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Re: As Yet Untitled

2006-01-08 Thread cbwaters

I knew you'd appreciate the remark. ;)

CW
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled



On 1/7/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

eh, it's ok I guess...better than a poke in the eye.
CW


That's about the nicest thing anyone's ever said about one of my photos.

Thanks!

cheers,
frank

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Re: RAW support for *istDL

2006-01-08 Thread David Savage
..one thing I forgot to mention.

When you create the batch file, where you specify the destination
folder, don't try to bury it too deep in a folder tree. I had all
sorts of problems when I tried to get it to put the files in a folder
buried 5-6 deep.

I finally got it to work by putting it in a folder located in the root
of one of my HD partitions.

Dave

On 1/8/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is you don't mind fooling around with you OS settings try this:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg231411.html

 I'm running WinXP and I got it to work. I find it very handy.

 Dave

 On 1/8/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is it possible to make a script to auto extract jpg from PEFs ??
 
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Re: New to the PDML

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The lens is to be, as for now, used on my m/f equ.


Naughty, naughty.



Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Jim Thomas
It's supposed to be the same optically as the Pentax-A SMC 24-50.  
Didn't get good reviews online but I've found it to be great lens.  One 
of my favorites.


J. Thomas


Thibouille wrote:


Any good or bad?
Tempting on a 35mm camera...

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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Kevin, a few thoughts:
1) if the guy were in prison, he'd be getting housed and fed at your 
expense, but until he's convicted and sent there (if that happens) he 
needs to make a living. Preferably an honest living. So he pretty much 
has to work somewhere.
2) you said he's quite outspoken about the situation. So his employers 
probably already know. So you don't need to inform them of something 
they already know.
3) sounds like the job he's doing doesn't have so much to do with what 
he's accused of. If he were accused of something involving stealing 
other people's merchandise, or fencing photo equipment, then making sure 
his employer knows about the allegations would be a lot more relevant.
3a) since the job area and the allegations aren't closely related, the 
employers probably doesn't have any reason for not employing him, even 
if they know about the investigation and even if they don't like the 
idea very much.





Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson

Bob Shell wrote:



On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:26 AM, Cotty wrote:


OTOH, depends on which small island you live. My sister bought a half
acre plot on the Isle of Coll for a quid.



How long ago?

Bob


About a decade ago, I was offered a small farm in a national park in 
Poland for ~£60.


m



Re: GESO: Belly

2006-01-08 Thread Mat Maessen
Very nice. Excellent lighting. I love how you've accentuated the shapes.

-Mat

On 1/8/06, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My sister is having a baby.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index6/06_01_belly/index.htm



Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
Kevin,
Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who is
working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let the
owner know before too many others make the connection.
Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't fain
shock and surprise? 

Jack

--- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to
 the
 pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that the
 person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst of
 a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been
 charged
 and a trial is due.
 
 My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is working
 for him?
 Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
 Is this really none of my business?
 I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
 Kind regards
 Kevin
 
 -- 
 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
 
 Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 




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Fix for lazy MZ/ZX flashes.

2006-01-08 Thread Don Sanderson
Haven't posted this for quite a while.
Thought someone might get some use out of it.

http://www.donsauction.com/eBay/FlashFix/Fix.htm

Don



Re: GESO: Belly

2006-01-08 Thread Gary Sibio

At 06:03 AM 1/8/2006, you wrote:



My sister is having a baby. g


That would be my guess.



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OT: Vivitar Series 1 70-300 4-5.6 AF anyone?

2006-01-08 Thread Albano Garcia
Hi gang,
Anyone has experience with this AF zoom? Saw one for a
very good price...
Regards


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Photography  Graphic Design
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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Gary Sibio

At 09:22 PM 1/7/2006, you wrote:


I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to the
pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that the
person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst of
a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been charged
and a trial is due.

My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is working for him?
Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
Is this really none of my business?
I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.


This is a tough question. If you are friends with the shop owner, I 
would definitely tell him. I'm going to make the assumption that laws 
in Oz are similar to the USA. If they perv is using store equipment, 
it could be confiscated as part of the investigation.


However, according to how I read the above, only the uncle has been 
charged. There may not be enough evidence linking the guy to the 
uncle's activities.


As the father of two daughters and having a friend whose daughters 
were molested by an uncle, I'm all in favor of doing everything 
possible to make these guys' lives a living Hell but that requires 
that you be absolutely certain of guilt. In the US some parents have 
caught Hell for taking a picture of their 3-year-old in the bathtub.




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Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I had the A and was so happy to find someone to take it off my hands. 
Overall, it was amongst the worst lenses I ever owned, if not the worst. 
Too soft throughout the range, too much distortion ... contrast seemed a
bit low for my taste.  Great paperweight, though.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Jim Thomas 

 It's supposed to be the same optically as the Pentax-A SMC 24-50.  
 Didn't get good reviews online but I've found it to be great lens.  One 
 of my favorites.

 J. Thomas


 Thibouille wrote:

 Any good or bad?
 Tempting on a 35mm camera...
 
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Re: When will Microsoft learn?

2006-01-08 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 1/8/06, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably theday they 
 start making vacuum cleaners.
 
 I'm not one to just follow the herd on Microsoft-bashing, but 

 MARK!!!




Actually, I've heard they make some very nice mouseskeyboards. I use
Logitech, anyway.

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Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Jim Thomas
Like I said, most of the users polled panned the lens.  Mine is a gem. 


Jim


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I had the A and was so happy to find someone to take it off my hands. 
Overall, it was amongst the worst lenses I ever owned, if not the worst. 
Too soft throughout the range, too much distortion ... contrast seemed a

bit low for my taste.  Great paperweight, though.

Shel

 

 





Re: New to the PDML

2006-01-08 Thread Perry Pellechia
I do not think Tamron currently has anything close to a 20-35.  At
least BH does not list it.  Between the Pentax and the Tokina ATX,
the Pentax is only $20 more.  If the extra stop of the Tokina is
important to you then that might be a reason to buy it.  I do not have
either, but someone here might have experience with both and offer
their opinion.

Perry.

 The lens is to be, as for now, used on my m/f equ. Some time down the road it
 may find it self on a pixel box but i must confess i am still a devotee of
 fujichrome at this stage of the game. That said however i am open to buying a
 a/f lens if that is the best option. the 3 i have found to meet my needs are 
 the
 pentax fa20-35mmf4.0, the tokina 20-35mm f2.8 atx pro, and one[?] from tamron.
 As it seems no one has anything good to say about the sigma in that range i 
 feel
 to avoid them altogether. In point of fact, all three of the above lenses are
 only sold in an a/f mounts so it seems that i am destined to buy my first a/f
 lens in the near future. THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING MAYBE SO, BUT
 FOR NOW, LONG LIVE FUJICHROME!!! SANFORD.
  
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Re: 30 years of the K1000.

2006-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:03 AM, keith_w wrote:

but...I do quite clearly recall that during the days when I was  
using OS 7.x and OS 8.x on my various Macs, those OS would NOT read  
IIGS files of any kind.

The finder told me the floppies were not readable.


Actually, they would have been readable if you found and installed  
the correct file system extensions. These components were available  
but hard to find for Mac OS 7 thru 9.


No matter now since you've tossed the media.

Godfrey



Re: OT: Canadian Trip - Sights?

2006-01-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 1/5/2006 12:13:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 They will be travelling on Highway's 1 and 5 primarily, but the
 interesting stuff is pretty much all on Highway 5. The Heli Logging pics
 I posted in October, which are up on my Flickr at
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz were shot right over HWY 5 about 1/2
 north of Hope when I was out that way in early October.
 
 -Adam
 
 Cool thanks. He mentioned Hope. I'll pass your message along. Before they
 drove straight up from St. Louis.
 
 Marnie :-)

Marnie, one of the shots on the calendar was taken
in Hope this past year...
It was the place I had particularly wanted to
visit for nostalgic reasons
on my way west after Chez Robb and Calgary. 
quaint little town 
completely surrounded by mountains and on a lake.
But I'd think traveling in
that area in the dead of winter might be a bit
dicey. 

Kamloops ain't nothing to see.

ann



Re: GESO: Belly

2006-01-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/8/2006 4:06:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My sister is having a baby.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index6/06_01_belly/index.htm


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Those are great shots. They really are. I especially like the one with the 
dog looking up and the one of two bellies confronting each other. Unusual 
shots, 
good lighting, good composition, etc., etc. Excellent. Your sister is going 
to love having these later.

And, yes, we are.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another friend of mine has an A series version too and loves it. I've  
seen his photos (Pentax DS body), and have to say that his example is  
producing excellent results. On the DS, this is the perfect  
replacement for the 'traditional' 35-70mm zoom used with film SLRs.


Godfrey

On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Jim Thomas wrote:


Like I said, most of the users polled panned the lens.  Mine is a gem.
Jim


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I had the A and was so happy to find someone to take it off my  
hands. Overall, it was amongst the worst lenses I ever owned, if  
not the worst. Too soft throughout the range, too much  
distortion ... contrast seemed a

bit low for my taste.  Great paperweight, though.

Shel









Re: PESO PAW - Let Me Outtta Here

2006-01-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Perry Pellechia wrote:
 
 Purrrfect.
 
 On 1/5/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Frank's pic of a cat trying to get inside reminded me of this shot of Blue
  
 
  http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/letmeout.html
 
 

that's a lovely shot, Shel
ann



Re: OT: Canadian Trip - Sights?

2006-01-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/8/2006 8:58:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
Marnie, one of the shots on the calendar was taken
in Hope this past year...
It was the place I had particularly wanted to
visit for nostalgic reasons
on my way west after Chez Robb and Calgary. 
quaint little town 
completely surrounded by mountains and on a lake.
But I'd think traveling in
that area in the dead of winter might be a bit
dicey. 

Kamloops ain't nothing to see.

ann

There is a park (state?) right near by that is, may be called the same as the 
town, Clear Water.

He's aware it may be tough driving, but I'll warn him again. OTOH, I can only 
do so much nagging without sounding like a mother (he's a lot younger than 
me). He and his wife are pretty careful though.

Cool re calendar. 

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO PAW - Let Me Outtta Here

2006-01-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Sunny Chung wrote:
 
 I know this was probably an incredibly spontaneous shot, but a
 circular polarizer might have reduced the reflection on the window.

to what purpose?

it's a terrific photo just as it is - the
reflections work for it not
against it and if he didn't want them there he
could have photoshop'ed
them away... 

ann



Re: GESO: Belly

2006-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:03 AM, Derby Chang wrote:


My sister is having a baby.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index6/06_01_belly/index.htm


Very nice work. I wish the pregnant nudes I was commissioned to do  
last September allowed me such elegant simplicity, but the brief was  
for a rather more elaborate get up in a Halloween theme.


Godfrey



Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Thibouille
Yeah that's why I'm looking at it :)

 On the DS, this is the perfect
 replacement for the 'traditional' 35-70mm zoom used with film SLRs.

 Godfrey

--
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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
Making the store owner aware of your information is not a profession of
a known fact. That having been made clear, the action taken by the
owner is not your responsibility.

Jack

--- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to
 the
 pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that the
 person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst of
 a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been
 charged
 and a trial is due.
 
 My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is working
 for him?
 Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
 Is this really none of my business?
 I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
 Kind regards
 Kevin
 
 -- 
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 Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 




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Re: RAW support for *istDL

2006-01-08 Thread Thibouille
I will take a look, thank you much !

2006/1/8, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ..one thing I forgot to mention.

 When you create the batch file, where you specify the destination
 folder, don't try to bury it too deep in a folder tree. I had all
 sorts of problems when I tried to get it to put the files in a folder
 buried 5-6 deep.

 I finally got it to work by putting it in a folder located in the root
 of one of my HD partitions.

 Dave

 On 1/8/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is you don't mind fooling around with you OS settings try this:
 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg231411.html
 
  I'm running WinXP and I got it to work. I find it very handy.
 
  Dave
 
  On 1/8/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is it possible to make a script to auto extract jpg from PEFs ??
  
   --
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Re: GESO: Belly

2006-01-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
#4 and the last one, belly-to-belly stand out for me as the most
interesting.  Thanks for posting these.

Shel



 Derby Chang wrote:

 My sister is having a baby.
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index6/06_01_belly/index.htm




Re: PAW - Gazania

2006-01-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/7/2006 2:28:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=187t=1

It's from my first trial roll of Astia 100F.  I've since taken some  
more photos of these flowers but I spread the shooting across two  
bodies: one loaded with more Astia 100F and another containing Provia  
100F so I can compare the two films with the same subject matter and  
exposure.  I haven't finished these films yet :)

Cheers,

- Dave
===
I like it. It makes a colorful abstract. Would like it a tad better without 
the whitish light on the left creeping in, but it is still very nice.

I'll have to try something like that someday. On a tripod...

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: GESO: Life Behind a Glass

2006-01-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/3/2006 6:10:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
During last week i've been visiting one of the most visited Tel Aviv
street Shenkin str.. This is a very small street with only one
direction of driving and small sidewalks, but it's very hard to walk
there because of the amount of people walking there. The popularity is
because of the large amount of the Caffe shops, lots of cheap clothes
shops and the location - right in the middle of everything. I like to
walk there and look into the shop windows (i don't really know how to
say that better in english so please... ;-) )

Hope you'll like this small project of mine:
http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItemg2_itemId=346
3


PS: The current version of Gallery of mine uses a lot of java
scripting so it can look like flash sometimes but it's not.
Unfortunately i'm forced to use this one because of the security
issues.

--
Yours
Michael
=
You have to find a better display system -- I only had the patience to wait 
for three to load. I have dial-up, lots of us still have dial up. It takes 
too long. And/or throw up just a PESO for us to look at instead of a GESO.

Looks like you have some nice stuff (of what I could see). I like the shot of 
shop clerk grabbing a smoke.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO PAW - Let Me Outtta Here

2006-01-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks for your comments, Ann ...

I don't think my PS skills are good enough to make the reflections
disappear (I might give it a try to test my skills, though), although the
intensity and tonality was easy to control - at least to the desired degree.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele

 Sunny Chung wrote:

  I know this was probably an incredibly 
  spontaneous shot, but a circular polarizer 
  might have reduced the reflection on the window.

 to what purpose?

 it's a terrific photo just as it is - the
 reflections work for it not
 against it and if he didn't want them there he
 could have photoshop'ed them away... 

 ann




Re: OT: Canadian Trip - Sights?

2006-01-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: Re: OT: Canadian Trip - Sights?



There is a park (state?) right near by that is, may be called the same as 
the

town, Clear Water.


We call the provinces, the parks are provincial parks, unless they are 
national parks.

Clearwater Provincial Park is a nice little park.
Kamloops is a nice enough small city, but they have done a great job of not 
letting the nice surroundings intrude on the place.




He's aware it may be tough driving, but I'll warn him again. OTOH, I can 
only

do so much nagging without sounding like a mother (he's a lot younger than
me). He and his wife are pretty careful though.


They'll be fine if they are careful. I believe BC plows the roads when 
needed. He might want to carry and be prepared to use tire chains, and if he 
is planning on winter driving in the mountains, tell him to not attempt it 
without proper snow tires. Some of the drop offs go down a very long way.


William Robb 





RE: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread Bob W
I hope you bought the farm (so to speak). If you did, and want to make a
tidy profit, I'll give you £120- for it. It could change my opinion about
the Common Agricultural Policy.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
 About a decade ago, I was offered a small farm in a national 
 park in Poland for ~£60.
 
 m
 
 
 
 




Re: PESO PAW - Let Me Outtta Here

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Sunny Chung wrote:


I know this was probably an incredibly spontaneous shot, but a
circular polarizer might have reduced the reflection on the window.



to what purpose?

it's a terrific photo just as it is - the
reflections work for it not
against it and if he didn't want them there he
could have photoshop'ed
them away... 


Talking of which, has anyone else noticed a fashion for 'shopping flare 
spots _into_ movies?  I first noticed it during one over Christmas, when 
I found myself wondering why an expensive cinema lens would have only 
five blades in its diaphragm, going by the flare spot.  Then I noticed 
that the spot was moving in the wrong direction with regard to the sun 
as it moved across the screen.


I can just imagine some Director in the cutting room.
We're missing something, darling.  I know!..

m



Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson
Everyone I spoke to about it over there told me that the legalities 
would take a solid six months work and there would be no guarantee of a 
successful outcome.


Polish rural land prices are still the big sleeper of Europe.

m

Bob W wrote:


I hope you bought the farm (so to speak). If you did, and want to make a
tidy profit, I'll give you £120- for it. It could change my opinion about
the Common Agricultural Policy.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 




-Original Message-
From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



About a decade ago, I was offered a small farm in a national 
park in Poland for ~£60.


m














RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 January 2006 17:10
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
 
 Making the store owner aware of your information is not a 
 profession of a known fact. That having been made clear, the 
 action taken by the owner is not your responsibility.
 
 Jack

Yes it is. The reason for telling the owner appears to be that you don't
think the guy should be working there, even though he hasn't been convicted.
So if you tell the employer, and the guy loses his job, it is clearly a
result of your actions, so it is your responsibility. If he's later found
not guilty, will you give him another job and compensate him for the lost
earnings and defamation of character?

If you think it's ok for people to lose their job based on hearsay, how will
you feel when somebody decides they don't like you, and start telling your
employer that you're a paedophile?

--
Cheers,
 Bob 



RE: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread Bob W
I would guess the legalities have changed now that they're part of the
glorious European project. A farm in a NP sounds like a good thing to have.
My brother's house in France is on the edge of a NP (Mercantour). His house
and land were surprisingly cheap, but it still took several months to buy
the place.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 January 2006 18:34
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday
 
 Everyone I spoke to about it over there told me that the 
 legalities would take a solid six months work and there would 
 be no guarantee of a successful outcome.
 
 Polish rural land prices are still the big sleeper of Europe.
 
 m
 
 Bob W wrote:
 
  I hope you bought the farm (so to speak). If you did, and 
 want to make 
  a tidy profit, I'll give you £120- for it. It could change 
 my opinion 
  about the Common Agricultural Policy.
  
  --
  Cheers,
   Bob
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 About a decade ago, I was offered a small farm in a 
 national park in 
 Poland for ~£60.
 
 m
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 




Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's best 
to mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until proven 
guilt.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Kevin,
Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who is
working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let the
owner know before too many others make the connection.
Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't fain
shock and surprise?

Jack

--- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to
the
pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that the
person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst of
a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been
charged
and a trial is due.

My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is working
for him?
Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
Is this really none of my business?
I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.

Kind regards
Kevin

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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.







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DS update 2 reset the counter

2006-01-08 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

Is it possible to change the image counter back to what it used to be?

Collin





Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson
One of the big problems in central and eastern Europe, although it's 
getting less likely as the years go by, is that someone related to the 
original owner may turn up to take it off you.  That's what they meant 
by successful outcome.  At the time, there were quite a few cases of 
relatives of people deceased in concentration camps turning up to claim 
family properties, now lived in by others.  Not to mention those 
reclaiming places appropriated by the Party.  Which I was never in.


There are websites dedicated to the European races that were dealt with 
by forcible migration during the 20th century.  This is one group that I 
know of http://www.lemko.org/


mike

Bob W wrote:

I would guess the legalities have changed now that they're part of the
glorious European project. A farm in a NP sounds like a good thing to have.
My brother's house in France is on the edge of a NP (Mercantour). His house
and land were surprisingly cheap, but it still took several months to buy
the place.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 




-Original Message-
From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 January 2006 18:34

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

Everyone I spoke to about it over there told me that the 
legalities would take a solid six months work and there would 
be no guarantee of a successful outcome.


Polish rural land prices are still the big sleeper of Europe.

m

Bob W wrote:


I hope you bought the farm (so to speak). If you did, and 


want to make 

a tidy profit, I'll give you £120- for it. It could change 


my opinion 


about the Common Agricultural Policy.

--
Cheers,
Bob




-Original Message-
From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



About a decade ago, I was offered a small farm in a 


national park in 


Poland for ~£60.

m























Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Any good or bad?
Tempting on a 35mm camera...

I have one and have found it to be very good indeed.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



PESO - first shots with 500/4.5

2006-01-08 Thread Jostein

Hi,

Ventured into the cold today to play with the recently acquired 
500/4.5:


http://www.oksne.net/foto/html/images/500mm/images.asp

Just some random shots, as the day was far too nice to waste on 
rigorous testing...:-)


Jostein 



Re: DS update 2 reset the counter

2006-01-08 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jan 8, 2006, at 13:12, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:


Is it possible to change the image counter back to what it used to be?



If you put a card into the camera that has a recent photo on it (you  
can copy the most recent shot back onto the card from your computer),  
the next shot you take will have the next-highest number.


Just pay attention to the directory structure on the card.  The  
images don't go in the root directory.


 -Charles

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RE: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread Bob W
Ah yes, of course. I hadn't considered that.

No such problems with my brother's place. The same families have lived on
the mountain since they were Neanderthals.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 January 2006 19:13
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday
 
 One of the big problems in central and eastern Europe, 
 although it's getting less likely as the years go by, is that 
 someone related to the original owner may turn up to take it 
 off you.  That's what they meant by successful outcome.  At 
 the time, there were quite a few cases of relatives of people 
 deceased in concentration camps turning up to claim family 
 properties, now lived in by others.  Not to mention those 
 reclaiming places appropriated by the Party.  Which I was never in.
 
 There are websites dedicated to the European races that were 
 dealt with by forcible migration during the 20th century.  
 This is one group that I know of http://www.lemko.org/
 
 mike



Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Tom C
And if you've ever been accused yourself, falsely or otherwise, one quickly 
learns that innocent until proven guilty is pretty much a televison and 
elementary school sham.  The majority of the power rests in the established 
authority (the government, police, and other arms of the law). If that 
wasn't so, the accused wouldn't have to PROVE their innocence.


If the person's guilty they will likely be punished.  If they are innocent, 
they don't need anyone making the job of defense, or their own lives, harder 
for them.


It's also good to remember that even though the guy is angry at being turned 
in, you likely don't know exactly what he is guilty of doing, if anything.  
If you did, you would likely be guilty by complicity.


Tom C.





From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:51:41 -0500

I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's best to 
mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until proven 
guilt.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Kevin,
Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who is
working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let the
owner know before too many others make the connection.
Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't fain
shock and surprise?

Jack

--- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to
the
pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that the
person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst of
a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been
charged
and a trial is due.

My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is working
for him?
Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
Is this really none of my business?
I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.

Kind regards
Kevin

--
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.







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Re: PESO - first shots with 500/4.5

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson

Jostein wrote:


Hi,

Ventured into the cold today to play with the recently acquired 500/4.5:

http://www.oksne.net/foto/html/images/500mm/images.asp

Just some random shots, as the day was far too nice to waste on rigorous 
testing...:-)


Jostein


That's a weird patch of CA on the Greenfinch shot.  Just around its feet 
and the branch below it.  Maybe a hint in the fork of its tail.  Not 
really any in other shots with similar - but not exactly the same - 
background.


Looks chiller there than here.  Swap you some rain for some (lack of) 
temperature.


m



Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:


Ah yes, of course. I hadn't considered that.

No such problems with my brother's place. The same families have lived on
the mountain since they were Neanderthals.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 


We have the same syndrome on some estates near here.  They go back two 
or three generations.  We are lucky ot live in such a stable society.






-Original Message-
From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 January 2006 19:13

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

One of the big problems in central and eastern Europe, 
although it's getting less likely as the years go by, is that 
someone related to the original owner may turn up to take it 
off you.  That's what they meant by successful outcome.  At 
the time, there were quite a few cases of relatives of people 
deceased in concentration camps turning up to claim family 
properties, now lived in by others.  Not to mention those 
reclaiming places appropriated by the Party.  Which I was never in.


There are websites dedicated to the European races that were 
dealt with by forcible migration during the 20th century.  
This is one group that I know of http://www.lemko.org/


mike









Re: As Yet Untitled

2006-01-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
I believe the entire quote is better than a poke in the eye with a dull 
stick


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled



I knew you'd appreciate the remark. ;)

CW
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled



On 1/7/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

eh, it's ok I guess...better than a poke in the eye.
CW


That's about the nicest thing anyone's ever said about one of my photos.

Thanks!

cheers,
frank

g

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PESO: Moon and Mars

2006-01-08 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)

Hi...

Get a look at the sky tonight, the Moon and Mars are very close. A good 
opportunity for me to see what can be achieved from a *ist DS and a 
SMCP-FA 80-320 4.5-5.6.


http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/PESO/2006-01-08+Lune+et+Mars+-+1.jpg.html

Shot at 320mm, ISO 200, f/8, 1/200s, spot metered on the moon itself, on 
a tripod with 2s mirror pre-lift (no remote).


The infinite focus point is not actually at the end of the focusing ring 
course, but a few degrees from it. So I focus bracketed (MF) and chose 
the sharpest shot.


The picture is heavily cropped. One pixel on the web is one pixel on the 
sensor (be sure to choose the 618x1017 version).


Post processing:
   - PEF-DNG conversion
   - Open in PS (no sharpening, 16 bit)
   - Curves, sharpen, crop

Sharpness is somewhat disappointing. Anyone done something similar with 
a good 300mm prime yet?


Patrice



Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 07:50:14PM -, Bob W wrote:
 Ah yes, of course. I hadn't considered that.
 
 No such problems with my brother's place. The same families have lived on
 the mountain since they were Neanderthals.

That's a couple of years, then?



Re: As Yet Untitled

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I always thought it was better than a poke in the eye with a sharp 
stick. If I had to take a poke in the eye, I think I'd opt for the 
dull stick. vbg. However, the photo is a good one. It's MUCH BETTER 
than a poke in the eye.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

I believe the entire quote is better than a poke in the eye with a 
dull stick


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled



I knew you'd appreciate the remark. ;)

CW
- Original Message - From: frank theriault 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled



On 1/7/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

eh, it's ok I guess...better than a poke in the eye.
CW


That's about the nicest thing anyone's ever said about one of my 
photos.


Thanks!

cheers,
frank

g

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Re: As Yet Untitled

2006-01-08 Thread John Francis

But you know Frank wouldn't ever have anything sharp ...

On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 03:46:55PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 I always thought it was better than a poke in the eye with a sharp 
 stick. If I had to take a poke in the eye, I think I'd opt for the 
 dull stick. vbg. However, the photo is a good one. It's MUCH BETTER 
 than a poke in the eye.
 Paul
 On Jan 8, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
 I believe the entire quote is better than a poke in the eye with a 
 dull stick
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message - From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled
 
 
 I knew you'd appreciate the remark. ;)
 
 CW
 - Original Message - From: frank theriault 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:51 PM
 Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled
 
 
 On 1/7/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 eh, it's ok I guess...better than a poke in the eye.
 CW
 
 That's about the nicest thing anyone's ever said about one of my 
 photos.
 
 Thanks!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: As Yet Untitled

2006-01-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Knarf - 
I took a look. 


Couldn't come up with a fitting title.

Couldn't come up with anything remarkable to say either.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: PAW: As Yet Untitled



I have no idea what to call it yet, but something will eventually come
to me.  If it does, I'll let you know:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4009465

There's a relatively boring story behind this one, but I'll wait a bit
to share it (if I decide to share it at all - again, I'll let you
know).

Thanks in advance to those who look and comment.

cheers,
frank
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Re: PESO: Moon and Mars

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Considering that the lens is an inexpensive consumer zoom and that the  
picture is heavily cropped, I'd say the sharpness is surprisingly good.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote:


Hi...

Get a look at the sky tonight, the Moon and Mars are very close. A  
good opportunity for me to see what can be achieved from a *ist DS and  
a SMCP-FA 80-320 4.5-5.6.


http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/PESO/2006-01-08+Lune+et+Mars+- 
+1.jpg.html


Shot at 320mm, ISO 200, f/8, 1/200s, spot metered on the moon itself,  
on a tripod with 2s mirror pre-lift (no remote).


The infinite focus point is not actually at the end of the focusing  
ring course, but a few degrees from it. So I focus bracketed (MF)  
and chose the sharpest shot.


The picture is heavily cropped. One pixel on the web is one pixel on  
the sensor (be sure to choose the 618x1017 version).


Post processing:
   - PEF-DNG conversion
   - Open in PS (no sharpening, 16 bit)
   - Curves, sharpen, crop

Sharpness is somewhat disappointing. Anyone done something similar  
with a good 300mm prime yet?


Patrice





This one should sell well

2006-01-08 Thread John Forbes
I apologise for breaking the rules regarding Ebay auctions, but it seems a  
shame to deprive members of the opportunity of getting a tremendous  
bargain on a very desirable piece of equipment.


http://tinyurl.com/8j74d

Don't be fooled by the paucity of bids so far.  There are no doubt many  
people biding their time, ready to snipe.


John

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SMCA 24-50 maybe FS (was Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm)

2006-01-08 Thread Mark Erickson

Yeah, yeah, I know it's not Friday, but

I have an SMC-A 24-50 F4 that I don't use because I'm shooting primes almost
exclusively these days.  My impression of it was that it was unremarkable
(neither good nor bad) compared to my other lenses in its focal range.
Anyone want to buy it? It's in KEH Exc or maybe Exc+ condition and comes
with caps and matching Pentax fitted rubber screw-in lens hood.  KEH has an
Exc sample for $205.  Make me an offer.

--Mark



Re: PESO - first shots with 500/4.5

2006-01-08 Thread Jostein
I will need another session with a motif with bright spots in the 
background to experiment with. Not the kind of background one normally 
looks for, but usually it's much harder to find one without...:-) 
Hopefully next week-end.


I'll gladly swap some rain for some temperature, but only if you throw 
in some extra daylight. :-)


Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - first shots with 500/4.5



Jostein wrote:


Hi,

Ventured into the cold today to play with the recently acquired 
500/4.5:


http://www.oksne.net/foto/html/images/500mm/images.asp

Just some random shots, as the day was far too nice to waste on 
rigorous testing...:-)


Jostein


That's a weird patch of CA on the Greenfinch shot.  Just around its 
feet and the branch below it.  Maybe a hint in the fork of its tail. 
Not really any in other shots with similar - but not exactly the 
same - background.


Looks chiller there than here.  Swap you some rain for some (lack 
of) temperature.


m





RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
The very reason I added that email was to explain that the owner should
simply be made aware of the possibilities. If the owner chose to
immediately terminate the employee, that would to wholly his decision
and he'd have to own it.
In the owner's place, I'd want to current to monitor events.

Jack

--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 08 January 2006 17:10
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
  
  Making the store owner aware of your information is not a 
  profession of a known fact. That having been made clear, the 
  action taken by the owner is not your responsibility.
  
  Jack
 
 Yes it is. The reason for telling the owner appears to be that you
 don't
 think the guy should be working there, even though he hasn't been
 convicted.
 So if you tell the employer, and the guy loses his job, it is clearly
 a
 result of your actions, so it is your responsibility. If he's later
 found
 not guilty, will you give him another job and compensate him for the
 lost
 earnings and defamation of character?
 
 If you think it's ok for people to lose their job based on hearsay,
 how will
 you feel when somebody decides they don't like you, and start telling
 your
 employer that you're a paedophile?
 
 --
 Cheers,
  Bob 
 
 




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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
In this case, Paul, the shop owner is in jeopardy and deserves to be
alerted.

Jack

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's best
 
 to mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until
 proven 
 guilt.
 Paul
 On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Kevin,
  Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who is
  working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let the
  owner know before too many others make the connection.
  Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't
 fain
  shock and surprise?
 
  Jack
 
  --- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to
  the
  pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that
 the
  person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst
 of
  a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been
  charged
  and a trial is due.
 
  My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is
 working
  for him?
  Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
  Is this really none of my business?
  I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
  Kind regards
  Kevin
 
  -- 
  Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
 lunch.
 
  Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: As Yet Untitled

2006-01-08 Thread P. J. Alling

I thought that was a sharp stick.

Kenneth Waller wrote:

I believe the entire quote is better than a poke in the eye with a 
dull stick


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled



I knew you'd appreciate the remark. ;)

CW
- Original Message - From: frank theriault 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: As Yet Untitled



On 1/7/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


eh, it's ok I guess...better than a poke in the eye.
CW



That's about the nicest thing anyone's ever said about one of my 
photos.


Thanks!

cheers,
frank

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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Poking one's nose in other people's business is rarely a good idea. 
Making the owner aware of alleged offenses is not the third party's 
responsibility.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


The very reason I added that email was to explain that the owner should
simply be made aware of the possibilities. If the owner chose to
immediately terminate the employee, that would to wholly his decision
and he'd have to own it.
In the owner's place, I'd want to current to monitor events.

Jack

--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 January 2006 17:10
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

Making the store owner aware of your information is not a
profession of a known fact. That having been made clear, the
action taken by the owner is not your responsibility.

Jack


Yes it is. The reason for telling the owner appears to be that you
don't
think the guy should be working there, even though he hasn't been
convicted.
So if you tell the employer, and the guy loses his job, it is clearly
a
result of your actions, so it is your responsibility. If he's later
found
not guilty, will you give him another job and compensate him for the
lost
earnings and defamation of character?

If you think it's ok for people to lose their job based on hearsay,
how will
you feel when somebody decides they don't like you, and start telling
your
employer that you're a paedophile?

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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
Still, its the shop owner's responsibility to consider those points and
to react as he sees fit.
Guilty by association has a life of its own.

Jack

--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And if you've ever been accused yourself, falsely or otherwise, one
 quickly 
 learns that innocent until proven guilty is pretty much a televison
 and 
 elementary school sham.  The majority of the power rests in the
 established 
 authority (the government, police, and other arms of the law). If
 that 
 wasn't so, the accused wouldn't have to PROVE their innocence.
 
 If the person's guilty they will likely be punished.  If they are
 innocent, 
 they don't need anyone making the job of defense, or their own lives,
 harder 
 for them.
 
 It's also good to remember that even though the guy is angry at being
 turned 
 in, you likely don't know exactly what he is guilty of doing, if
 anything.  
 If you did, you would likely be guilty by complicity.
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 
 
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:51:41 -0500
 
 I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's
 best to 
 mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until proven
 
 guilt.
 Paul
 On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
 Kevin,
 Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who is
 working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let the
 owner know before too many others make the connection.
 Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't
 fain
 shock and surprise?
 
 Jack
 
 --- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to
 the
 pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that
 the
 person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst
 of
 a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been
 charged
 and a trial is due.
 
 My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is
 working
 for him?
 Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
 Is this really none of my business?
 I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
 Kind regards
 Kevin
 
 --
 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
 lunch.
 
 Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Ah yes, of course. I hadn't considered that.
  
  No such problems with my brother's place. The same families 
 have lived 
  on the mountain since they were Neanderthals.
  
  --
  Cheers,
   Bob
 
 We have the same syndrome on some estates near here.  They go 
 back two or three generations.  We are lucky ot live in such 
 a stable society.

You're right. And when I say Neanderthal, I mean it almost literally. I seem
to recall that the Iceman, Oetzi, still has plenty of relatives living in
the area where he came from - some remote valley in Austria. And they found
someone living near the Cheddar Gorge who is a direct descendant of Cheddar
Man (9k years old).
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9707/31/cheddar.man/

 
 There are websites dedicated to the European races that were dealt 
 with by forcible migration during the 20th century.
 This is one group that I know of http://www.lemko.org/

I've been in Ruthenia, when I went to Romania a few years ago. It's like a
fairy tale in many ways. I went to the county of Maramures, and decided to
follow a road which on my map petered out somewhere near the Ukrainian
border. I got a lift to the end of the road, which was a village at the head
of the valley, and followed a track that led out from the church. People
still drew water from wells. The track ended near a stream and a broken down
old house which looked abandoned to me. But when I got there somebody like
Hansel and Gretel's witch appeared. So I photographed her. I've shown the
picture before: http://www.web-options.com/Image2.jpg. She was only about
4'8 / 1.4m tall. When I'd finished photographing her she insisted on some
money and wouldn't let go of me until I gave her some change from my pocket.
It was about 30p (50c US), but when she took it she fell on her knees and
kissed my hand profusely. 

Cheers,

Bob



FS: Pentax SMC 35/2K $250

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stregevsky
Greetings from the past. Some of you will remember me as a PDML regular, on
and off, In the late 1990s and early 2000s, a devotee of Ricoh and Vivitar
Series One lenses and self-styled expert on obscure third-party lenses. I
don't shoot much anymore, all the less so since buying my daughters a
digicam in 2005. I'm hold on to my two bodies, my Tamron 80-200/2.8 zoom, a
couple 50mm lenses, a Sigma XQ 16/2.8K fisheye, and a Carl Zeiss Jena
20/2.8. But I've decided to part with my only lens of value, the Pentax SMC
35/2K. Yes, this is the original SMC, with a 52mm filter ring. 

It's serial number 5166100, which is the very lens seen in Boz Dimitrov's
site at http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ . That's because I bought it from Boz's
friend Arnold Stark, who had provided the lens for Boz's photograph. 

I'm not a collector, and I have no photos of the lens, but if I had to guess
I'd rate the condition EX+. Mechanically and cosmetically it's probably
EX++; the aperture ring turns in precise smooth clicks, and the focus is
silky smooth. But inside the lens is the usual amount of internal dust that
one would expect from a lens that's 30 years old--no more, no less. I
haven't noticed the dust in my prints or 6-megapixel scans.

The only specimen I've seen for sale currently is the one in 99% mint
condition listed for $495 at Kevin Cameras (http://www.kevincameras.com).
But I want my 35/2K to stay in the PDML family, so I'm offering it here for
$250 plus $10 insured shipping within USA, $15 insured shipping to Canada,
$18 insured shipping anywhere else. If you're short on cash but want this
lens, I'll accept $100 up front and the balance within 90 days.

I accept PayPal (cash or credit). 

I have no 52mm front lens cap, but I'll include a Pentax SMC rear lens cap
and the SMC 52mm L39 UV filter that's been protecting it since I bought it
from Arnold.

As soon as I press Send, I'm gonna feel heartsick over not listing this on
eBay. Make me feel OK about this: Buy it and assure me that you're not rich
and that you'll use the lens or protect it for posterity, and not turn
around and resell it!




Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
No, it's not. You aren't required to do it. Your responsibility is to
yourself the other innocent, the owner.

Jack

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Poking one's nose in other people's business is rarely a good idea. 
 Making the owner aware of alleged offenses is not the third party's 
 responsibility.
 Paul
 On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  The very reason I added that email was to explain that the owner
 should
  simply be made aware of the possibilities. If the owner chose to
  immediately terminate the employee, that would to wholly his
 decision
  and he'd have to own it.
  In the owner's place, I'd want to current to monitor events.
 
  Jack
 
  --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 08 January 2006 17:10
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
 
  Making the store owner aware of your information is not a
  profession of a known fact. That having been made clear, the
  action taken by the owner is not your responsibility.
 
  Jack
 
  Yes it is. The reason for telling the owner appears to be that you
  don't
  think the guy should be working there, even though he hasn't been
  convicted.
  So if you tell the employer, and the guy loses his job, it is
 clearly
  a
  result of your actions, so it is your responsibility. If he's
 later
  found
  not guilty, will you give him another job and compensate him for
 the
  lost
  earnings and defamation of character?
 
  If you think it's ok for people to lose their job based on
 hearsay,
  how will
  you feel when somebody decides they don't like you, and start
 telling
  your
  employer that you're a paedophile?
 
  --
  Cheers,
   Bob
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
The shop owner isn't in jeopardy. All he did was hire someone, 
apparently after any alleged misdeeds took place. Until proven guilty, 
the accused should be allowed to earn a living. The world is plagued 
with busybodies who can't keep their nose out of other people's 
business.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


In this case, Paul, the shop owner is in jeopardy and deserves to be
alerted.

Jack

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's best

to mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until
proven
guilt.
Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Kevin,
Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who is
working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let the
owner know before too many others make the connection.
Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't

fain

shock and surprise?

Jack

--- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured to
the
pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that

the

person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst

of

a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has been
charged
and a trial is due.

My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is

working

for him?
Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
Is this really none of my business?
I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.

Kind regards
Kevin

--
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for

lunch.


Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.







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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis

Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded



In this case, Paul, the shop owner is in jeopardy and deserves to be
alerted.


The shop owner is in jeopardyhow?

At the moment, he has an employee who is guilty of no crime, and a customer 
who is trying to decide if he should engage in a vendetta against said 
employee for no apparent reason other than his own rather confused moral 
code.


William Robb 





Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
Why do you conclude that the shop owner will fire the employee prior to
the court's decision? Would you? I wouldn't, nor would I bear any
responsibility if he did. Advising the owner is the responsible thing
to do.

Jack


--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The shop owner isn't in jeopardy. All he did was hire someone, 
 apparently after any alleged misdeeds took place. Until proven
 guilty, 
 the accused should be allowed to earn a living. The world is plagued 
 with busybodies who can't keep their nose out of other people's 
 business.
 Paul
 On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  In this case, Paul, the shop owner is in jeopardy and deserves to
 be
  alerted.
 
  Jack
 
  --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's
 best
 
  to mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until
  proven
  guilt.
  Paul
  On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Kevin,
  Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who
 is
  working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let
 the
  owner know before too many others make the connection.
  Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't
  fain
  shock and surprise?
 
  Jack
 
  --- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured
 to
  the
  pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that
  the
  person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst
  of
  a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has
 been
  charged
  and a trial is due.
 
  My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is
  working
  for him?
  Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
  Is this really none of my business?
  I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
  Kind regards
  Kevin
 
  -- 
  Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
  lunch.
 
  Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Some PUG comments

2006-01-08 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gianfranco's picture is a whimsical pleasure.  I
 assume that the pic was inverted, so that the bulb was
 actually hanging in real life.

Hi Rick,

Thanks a lot for the kind comment!
You are right, I uploaded the pic without rotating it. I thought
it would be nicely bizarre that way...

Ciao, and sorry for the really late reply...

Gianfranco

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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
Try to carefully read and attempt to understand my messages.
Appears there is some confusion.

Jack

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Davis
 Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
 
 
  In this case, Paul, the shop owner is in jeopardy and deserves to
 be
  alerted.
 
 The shop owner is in jeopardyhow?
 
 At the moment, he has an employee who is guilty of no crime, and a
 customer 
 who is trying to decide if he should engage in a vendetta against
 said 
 employee for no apparent reason other than his own rather confused
 moral 
 code.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
 




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Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Joe Wilensky
I like the A version as well and I did have the F version for a  
while. Very good construction on the A version, not bad at all on the  
F version (a bit better than the F 35-70, at least) and optically,  
quite good -- very good to excellent at least. I have an 8 x 12  
enlargement of a black-and-white winter scene taken with the A 24-50  
and a Super Program and it holds up very nicely at that size. I did  
experience some serious flare in a difficult lighting situation with  
the F lens, at the 24mm setting (even with an appropriate hood in  
use), but still a very good lens overall. I think the 24-90 FA is  
quite a bit better through the same 24-50 range and handles flare  
better, but this lens can be found for about a third of the price.


Joe



On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Jim Thomas wrote:

It's supposed to be the same optically as the Pentax-A SMC 24-50.   
Didn't get good reviews online but I've found it to be great lens.   
One of my favorites.


J. Thomas


Thibouille wrote:


Any good or bad?
Tempting on a 35mm camera...

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Thibouille
--
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Re: PESO -- Not Monarch II

2006-01-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
I must say, that for not trying to shoot the butterfly, you did a
pretty good job.  The sharper focus on the stem and flower lend a nice
3D effect to the shot.  Nicely done.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, January 7, 2006, 8:30:21 AM, you wrote:

PJA This started out to be a photo of a flower, but an uninvited guest
PJA stopped by for a snack...

PJA http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_!monarch2.html

PJA Tech Info:
PJA Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/250sec
PJA vmc Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm F2.8 Varifocal @ f5.6

PJA The Focus on the insect could have been better but I was really trying
PJA to shoot the flower after all...
PJA I have to admit it would have been a poor enough photo of a flower.




Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis

Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded



Try to carefully read and attempt to understand my messages.
Appears there is some confusion.


Upon re reading what I replied to, I find you are saying that the store 
owner is in jeopardy because the uncle of one of his emplyees has been 
charged with a crime.

I am just wondering how the store owner is in jeopardy?

William Robb






Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Tom C

Jack,

Just put yourself in the alleged offenders shoes for a minute.  If someone 
told me Jack Davis was allegedly guilty of the same crime we're discussing, 
and I, a 3rd party outsider, with nothing more than 2nd hand information, 
went and insinuated to your employer that you might be a child molester...


How fair is that?

Tom C.





From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:25:32 -0800 (PST)

Why do you conclude that the shop owner will fire the employee prior to
the court's decision? Would you? I wouldn't, nor would I bear any
responsibility if he did. Advising the owner is the responsible thing
to do.

Jack


--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The shop owner isn't in jeopardy. All he did was hire someone,
 apparently after any alleged misdeeds took place. Until proven
 guilty,
 the accused should be allowed to earn a living. The world is plagued
 with busybodies who can't keep their nose out of other people's
 business.
 Paul
 On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

  In this case, Paul, the shop owner is in jeopardy and deserves to
 be
  alerted.
 
  Jack
 
  --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's
 best
 
  to mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until
  proven
  guilt.
  Paul
  On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Kevin,
  Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who
 is
  working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let
 the
  owner know before too many others make the connection.
  Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't
  fain
  shock and surprise?
 
  Jack
 
  --- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured
 to
  the
  pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that
  the
  person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst
  of
  a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has
 been
  charged
  and a trial is due.
 
  My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is
  working
  for him?
  Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
  Is this really none of my business?
  I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
  Kind regards
  Kevin
 
  --
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  lunch.
 
  Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: OT: Camera Auction next Saturday

2006-01-08 Thread Cotty
 OTOH, depends on which small island you live. My sister bought a half
 acre plot on the Isle of Coll for a quid.



On 8/1/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed:

How long ago?

Less than a year.


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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Jack Davis
I went back to Kevin's original post and found nothing about an
uncle. I read it as the employee himself is in the midst of an
investigation. If the uncle thing were true, then I agree with you. If
not, as I wrote, the shops business could suffer directly as rumors
have legs.

Jack

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Davis
 Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
 
 
  Try to carefully read and attempt to understand my messages.
  Appears there is some confusion.
 
 Upon re reading what I replied to, I find you are saying that the
 store 
 owner is in jeopardy because the uncle of one of his emplyees has
 been 
 charged with a crime.
 I am just wondering how the store owner is in jeopardy?
 
 William Robb
 
 
 
 
 




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Re: This one should sell well

2006-01-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/1/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:

I apologise for breaking the rules regarding Ebay auctions, but it seems a  
shame to deprive members of the opportunity of getting a tremendous  
bargain on a very desirable piece of equipment.

http://tinyurl.com/8j74d

Don't be fooled by the paucity of bids so far.  There are no doubt many  
people biding their time, ready to snipe.


LOL!!!




Cheers,
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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Tom C
I think this falls clearly into the category if one doesn't know what they 
are talking about, one should keep one's mouth shut.


Spreading gossip, innuendo, and hearsay does not help the cause of truth or 
justice.


Tom C.





From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:25:32 -0800 (PST)

Why do you conclude that the shop owner will fire the employee prior to
the court's decision? Would you? I wouldn't, nor would I bear any
responsibility if he did. Advising the owner is the responsible thing
to do.

Jack


--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The shop owner isn't in jeopardy. All he did was hire someone,
 apparently after any alleged misdeeds took place. Until proven
 guilty,
 the accused should be allowed to earn a living. The world is plagued
 with busybodies who can't keep their nose out of other people's
 business.
 Paul
 On Jan 8, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

  In this case, Paul, the shop owner is in jeopardy and deserves to
 be
  alerted.
 
  Jack
 
  --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've found that unless someone has been placed in jeopardy, it's
 best
 
  to mind one's own business. As others have said, innocent until
  proven
  guilt.
  Paul
  On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Kevin,
  Understand your dilemma, but even though you don't know yet who
 is
  working for him, due to this photo related situation, I'd let
 the
  owner know before too many others make the connection.
  Are you certain this is the same person and that the owner won't
  fain
  shock and surprise?
 
  Jack
 
  --- Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I recently walked into a large Sydney camera store and ventured
 to
  the
  pro section to purchase some Fuji Provia. I was astounded that
  the
  person serving me was an ex-photog who is currently in the midst
  of
  a child porn investigation. He worked with his uncle who has
 been
  charged
  and a trial is due.
 
  My question is, should I make the store owner aware of who is
  working
  for him?
  Am I being vigilant or is it sheer bloody mindedness on my part?
  Is this really none of my business?
  I must admit this sort of thing boils my blood quickly.
 
  Kind regards
  Kevin
 
  --
  Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
  lunch.
 
  Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Rumors have legs when busybodies repeat them. The man is entitled to 
both privacy and a fair hearing.

Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


I went back to Kevin's original post and found nothing about an
uncle. I read it as the employee himself is in the midst of an
investigation. If the uncle thing were true, then I agree with you. If
not, as I wrote, the shops business could suffer directly as rumors
have legs.

Jack

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded



Try to carefully read and attempt to understand my messages.
Appears there is some confusion.


Upon re reading what I replied to, I find you are saying that the
store
owner is in jeopardy because the uncle of one of his emplyees has
been
charged with a crime.
I am just wondering how the store owner is in jeopardy?

William Robb










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Re: This one should sell well

2006-01-08 Thread Paul Stenquist

Looks like an A 50/1.2. Hope someone here gets it.
Paul
On Jan 8, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Cotty wrote:


On 8/1/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:

I apologise for breaking the rules regarding Ebay auctions, but it 
seems a

shame to deprive members of the opportunity of getting a tremendous
bargain on a very desirable piece of equipment.

http://tinyurl.com/8j74d

Don't be fooled by the paucity of bids so far.  There are no doubt 
many

people biding their time, ready to snipe.



LOL!!!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: This one should sell well

2006-01-08 Thread mike wilson

John Forbes wrote:

I apologise for breaking the rules regarding Ebay auctions, but it seems 
a  shame to deprive members of the opportunity of getting a tremendous  
bargain on a very desirable piece of equipment.


http://tinyurl.com/8j74d

Don't be fooled by the paucity of bids so far.  There are no doubt many  
people biding their time, ready to snipe.


John


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Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm

2006-01-08 Thread Jim Thomas
I shot a group team photo for my son's swim team last year with both the 
24-50 A (at 24mm) on a K1000, and also with a 24mm f2.8 Nikkor-N on a 
Nikon F2 Photomic, and the ones shot with the Pentax have less 
distortion and are sharper!  And I might add that the 24mm f2.8 Nikkor 
is a fine lens.  I was very surprised and have been pleasantly surprised 
with everything I've shot with the 24-50 A.  Your results obviously may 
vary.


Jim


Joe Wilensky wrote:

I like the A version as well and I did have the F version for a  
while. Very good construction on the A version, not bad at all on the  
F version (a bit better than the F 35-70, at least) and optically,  
quite good -- very good to excellent at least. I have an 8 x 12  
enlargement of a black-and-white winter scene taken with the A 24-50  
and a Super Program and it holds up very nicely at that size. I did  
experience some serious flare in a difficult lighting situation with  
the F lens, at the 24mm setting (even with an appropriate hood in  
use), but still a very good lens overall. I think the 24-90 FA is  
quite a bit better through the same 24-50 range and handles flare  
better, but this lens can be found for about a third of the price.


Joe






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