Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/14/2006 12:31:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you insert a card into a reader and transfer the files to a Windows 
PC, you must then go through Windows' procedure to remove the card. But 
this shuts down that drive, so you can't insert another card and 
continue transferring files. Windows won't see it. You have to restart 
the computer.

Is there a way to get Windows to recognize a newly-inserted card (or 
other device) after one has gone through the procedure to remove the 
previous card?

Thanks,

Joe
=
I plug my card reader into a USB hub and have no problems with reading new 
cards. All I have to do is unplug the card reader from the hub and plug it in 
again. Actually, I am not even sure I have to do that. Anyway, I have no 
problems with any of the devices on the hub
-- some I leave turned off and only turn on when I need them -- like my 
scanner. When on, it's recognized. All, of course, have already been setup 
previously in add hardware.

I am running XP. In other words, I've never encountered the problems you 
mention.

Marnia aka Doe 



PEOW:My Baby and Her Baby

2006-05-15 Thread Jay Taylor
Been away from posting on the list lately. Still following some  
though.  My youngest daughter came over to cook dinner for her Mom   
on Mothers Day. Here is shot of here and her new puppy Baby .   
Taken with the *istDS and the FA*50 f/1.4. Would have been a better  
shot with maybe a telephoto to blur the background a bit more. But oh  
well, sometimes you just have to settle for what you get.

Comments always helpful. Thanks for looking.

JayT
http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/60205137.DanielleBaby.jpg



Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That strikes me as courting disaster.  Should there be a problem when
xfering the files, you may have lost the originals.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Don Williams 

 Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When 
 they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing left on the 
 card. May be dangerous I suppose but so far I haven't had an accident.


 -- 
 Dr E D F Williams
 www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
 personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616




Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/14/2006 5:33:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I did that once with a 1/2 full 1 gig CF card.  When the card was 
reinserted in the camera it could hold only 40 instead of the 78 or so 
PEF files it could normally hold.  The space was freed up after 
re-formating the card in the camera.

Interesting. I always format in camera, not because I knew the computer might 
do that, but because it's the easiest way for my brain to keep track of when 
I am deleting my pictures. (I always format to delete instead of deleting, 
to avoid fat fragmentation or whatever.)

It also seemed to me to be the safest way to format.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards

2006-05-15 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi John,

On Mon, 15 May 2006 11:17:10 +1000, John Coyle wrote:

I've never had any problems with deleting files in a card reader: one 
possible source of problems if there is a sufficient mis-alignment of the 
read/write heads in the two devices (camera and reader) that one of them 
cannot read or write to the card after the delete operation.  

That would have been true long ago, with floppies and hard-disks
that use rotating media and read/write heads ...

The cards used in cameras (CF, SD etc) are solid-state memory,
no moving parts at all, no risk of head alignment problems ...

Regards, JvW

--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery




Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Somewhat less than 48 hours ago I installed the free version of Zone Alarm.
As of a few minutes ago more than 3400 intrusions and access attempts have
been blocked by the program.  That's mind boggling!

My thanks to all who recommended the program.


Shel





Re: Cleaning Out the Card Bay - istDS

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks Paul, Mat ... one less thing to keep me awake at night LOL

Shel



  Any suggestions for cleaning out the card bay in the DS? 




Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:09:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 5/14/2006 5:33:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I did that once with a 1/2 full 1 gig CF card.  When the card was 
 reinserted in the camera it could hold only 40 instead of the 78 or so 
 PEF files it could normally hold.  The space was freed up after 
 re-formating the card in the camera.
 
 Interesting. I always format in camera, not because I knew the computer might 
 do that, but because it's the easiest way for my brain to keep track of when 
 I am deleting my pictures. (I always format to delete instead of deleting, 
 to avoid fat fragmentation or whatever.)
 
 It also seemed to me to be the safest way to format.
 
 Marnie aka Doe 

I reformat in-camera because I'm going to be writing images to the card
in the camera, so it just makes sense to me to do the rest of the write
operations there as well.



Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Thibouille

I do not have this problem.
If I put another card, it will read it without any problem.
Weird.

2006/5/14, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thanks, Jostein and John. I am using Windows XP.

I use the little green arrow in the Taskbar, labeled Safely Remove
Hardware. I have found that if I doesn't use that, Windows scolds me. I
have the issue with card readers, thumbdrives, and the external 250 GB
drive I can use on either Firewire or USB.

If I remove a CF card (or any of these) through the Safely Remove
Hardware method, I cannot then insert a new card (or re-insert the
thumbdrive or turn the external hard drive back on) without rebooting.
Windows just won't recognize it.

This is mainly an issue when I have several CF cards worth of images to
transfer.

Appreciate any advice. I do believe there is a solution to this.

Joe





--
--
Thibouille
--
*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...



Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread David Savage

I do it the same way  have never had any problems.

I have had problems a couple of times when copying though. Something
went wrong during the process  I could no longer see the files on the
computer but I could in camera. I had to use recovery software to get
them back.

The joy's of PC's :-)

Dave S.

On 5/15/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That strikes me as courting disaster.  Should there be a problem when
xfering the files, you may have lost the originals.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Don Williams

 Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When
 they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing left on the
 card. May be dangerous I suppose but so far I haven't had an accident.


 --
 Dr E D F Williams
 www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
 personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616







Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/14/2006 11:23:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Interesting. I always format in camera, not because I knew the computer 
might 
 do that, but because it's the easiest way for my brain to keep track of 
when 
 I am deleting my pictures. (I always format to delete instead of 
deleting, 
 to avoid fat fragmentation or whatever.)
 
 It also seemed to me to be the safest way to format.
 
 Marnie aka Doe 

In a message dated 5/14/2006 11:23:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I reformat in-camera because I'm going to be writing images to the card
in the camera, so it just makes sense to me to do the rest of the write
operations there as well.
==
Yup. Exactly. KISS.

Kissing is easier on my brain.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Unfortunately, it's become like fingernails scraping on a blackboard to me.
I agree with your description in every sense of the word.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:06:39PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  I effin'  ~hate~ Cotty's discombobulate line - it irritates me no end.

 I don't let it get to me.  But I do find it rather puerile.




Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread John Francis
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 11:18:07PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Somewhat less than 48 hours ago I installed the free version of Zone Alarm.
 As of a few minutes ago more than 3400 intrusions and access attempts have
 been blocked by the program.  That's mind boggling!

That's the internet today.

Of course, it's not very likely that any of those 3400 attempts would
have succeeded (for a variety of reasons), even if you hadn't installed
Zone Alarm.  But you can be pretty sure that if you ever do accidentally
leave the door open you'll get unwelcome visitors.



PESO - The Flag and My Kid

2006-05-15 Thread Gabriel Cain

Scannin' scannin' scannin', oh it's fun to scan lots of slide film. :-P

I came across a couple shots I really like, and wanted to share:

The first is of the flag at half-mast.  It was taken on my way to work, 
and I looked up.  It caught my eye.


http://gabrielcain.com/gallery2/v/sceneandimages/flags-and-symbols/the-flag-over-a-firestation-standing-at-half-mast.jpg.html

The second is of my kid, who has his own pentax -- a Super ME.  He's 
taken a few rolls, and has a good eye.  Here's one of him trying to 
catch me!


http://gabrielcain.com/gallery2/v/portraits/a-boy-and-his-pentax-camera-01.jpg.html

Tech Details:  Pentax K1000, f/1.4 50mm SMC-M lens, Provia 100F @ 100 ISO

Thoughts and opinions welcome!

Gabriel
PhotoBlog:  http://gabrielcain.com/blog/



Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Don Williams
I thought so too. A couple of times things have stopped in mid-stream 
for unknown reasons. But it would seem Windows doesn't delete the 
directory entry (first character of the name) on the card until the file 
has been pasted. So far, the files that have not yet been written to the 
PC hard drive are still to be found on the card after an interruption. 
However -- after reading all that has been said about this I think I 
shall start formatting the cards once in a while. The three cards have 
only been formatted once, when I got them. I have reached about 6000 
exposures (almost all on the microscope) with both cameras. You may 
remember I used a D with a defective flash for about five months until 
it was replaced a couple of months ago. I haven't used the flash yet, 
but it does work.


I guess a card can be formatted and the directory created by a batch 
file run from a CMD window to save pressing camera buttons. By the way, 
Windows often 'Checkdisks' the cards and this is sure to be the result 
of my promiscuous plugging in and pulling out without regard for niceties.


Don

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

That strikes me as courting disaster.  Should there be a problem when
xfering the files, you may have lost the originals.

Shel



  

[Original Message]
From: Don Williams 



  
Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When 
they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing left on the 
card. May be dangerous I suppose but so far I haven't had an accident.



--
Dr E D F Williams
www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616






  



--
Dr E D F Williams
www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616



Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Don Williams
I had a signature line once, until a friend told me it was crap. It was 
a line from a well known Canadian TV show,

starting 'Oh my God ...'

Don

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Unfortunately, it's become like fingernails scraping on a blackboard to me.
I agree with your description in every sense of the word.

Shel



  

[Original Message]
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  

On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:06:39PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


I effin'  ~hate~ Cotty's discombobulate line - it irritates me no end.
  

I don't let it get to me.  But I do find it rather puerile.






  



--
Dr E D F Williams
www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616



Re: Happy birthday Mark Roberts! :-)

2006-05-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

Mark,
I wish you health, love and money - all other wishes will come true  
automatically then ;-)


BTW - is there any chance to send private e-mail to you? My mails are  
bounced back as spam :-(


Cheers,
Sylwek



Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Don Williams 
Subject: Re: Ideas for Pentax



I had a signature line once, until a friend told me it was crap. It was 
a line from a well known Canadian TV show,

starting 'Oh my God ...'


Not that well known.

William Robb



Re: Turbo CAD - Pro or De Luxe?

2006-05-15 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Fri, 12 May 2006 20:42:05 +0200, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:




Have anyone got any experience with the TurboCAD software?
Or any other (affordable - 150-800 USD) 2D/3D CAD software?


Hi Jens,

Check out www.rhino3D.com, quite some architects and city planners use it.  
It's strong suit is 3D, and a _very responsive_ support newsgroup. If you  
ever paid for CAD support, you know what that's worth...


--
Regards, Lucas



Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread Boris Liberman

Shel, a short story for you:

I have a time synchronization software on my PC at home. I did not
have time to set up my firewall to let it through properly. So I've
shut down the firewall for a moment in order to sync the time of my
PC. It took 2 mins tops.

When done I realized my PC was infected with two trojan programs.

I hope that you'd enjoy using the personal fire wall from ZoneAlarm,
as it is known to be very good.

--
Boris



Re: Aperture repair on a M lens?

2006-05-15 Thread Lon Williamson

I read long ago that the M35 f2.8 was prone to
grease causing the aperature to stick.  When I bought
mine, it had a sluggish aperature.  Local repair was
under $40, and the repairman did report grease as the
cause.  Hope this helps.

-Lon



Re: PESO: Dandelion

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like step two better than step three. More contrast. I would like all 
of them more if it was shot with more depth of field. F16 might have 
been enough.

Paul
On May 15, 2006, at 12:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The original shot was unremarkable.  However, I desaturated the photo, 
and
it started to become something.  I adjusted the contrast and shadows.  
I
found that there were some distracting highlights in the background, 
so I

took the paintbrush tool and got rid of them.

Here are my three steps:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/dandelionorig.jpg
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/dandelion.jpg
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/dandelion2.jpg

Tech:
*istDS, Sigma 70-300 (macro mode), 1/1000s, f/9.5, handheld.

Any thoughts or advice?

Mike





Re: PEOW:My Baby and Her Baby

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. A less distracting background would be better, but I like it 
very much as presented here. Good work.

On May 15, 2006, at 1:58 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

Been away from posting on the list lately. Still following some 
though.  My youngest daughter came over to cook dinner for her Mom  on 
Mothers Day. Here is shot of here and her new puppy Baby .  Taken 
with the *istDS and the FA*50 f/1.4. Would have been a better shot 
with maybe a telephoto to blur the background a bit more. But oh well, 
sometimes you just have to settle for what you get.

Comments always helpful. Thanks for looking.

JayT
http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/60205137.DanielleBaby.jpg





Re: GESO: Birds of prey portraits

2006-05-15 Thread David Savage

On 5/15/06, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip


http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_5.htm


My fave of the bunch. It looks like it's ready to do some damage :-)



istD SMC-F 70-210, 800 ASA

Any suggestions/comments are welcome.


Keep doing what your doing. Nicely done.

Dave S.



Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards

2006-05-15 Thread Bob Shell


On May 14, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:


I follow the same routine based on what I've come to learn -
+ Delete by reformatting in camera.

I believe there is a possibility of file corruption caused by  
deletion via computer but I can't recall the reasons why.


I don't know the details either, but I do know that deleting files  
from the card in a card reader can cause trouble.  Always do it in  
the camera.


Several years ago one of the Nikon tech experts told me to always  
format the card at least twice.  On many digital cameras you will  
note that the amount of space used on the card by the hidden files  
drops after the second formatting.  Since I've taken his advice and  
done this I have had zero card problems.


Bob



Re: Charter Cable --OT

2006-05-15 Thread Bob Shell


On May 14, 2006, at 9:22 PM, graywolf wrote:

Hum..? It is only $0.95 (I am going to have to figure out how to do  
a cents sign someday) right now. And I go to the PO most every day  
(use a PO Box for all my mail). And, the PO will take my Visa card.  
Thanks for the idea. However, I have to admit that going to  
Charters local office and dumping $65 worth of pennies on the  
counter sounds like a lot of fun too.


The PO will only accept debit cards if you're buying money orders.

Bob



Re: It's a baby, Rodney!

2006-05-15 Thread frank theriault

On 5/14/06, Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not see the original posting yet but congratulations indeed!


No original post for me, either, but let me add my Woo-Hoo!

Congrats, Mike!

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread brooksdj
 Somewhat less than 48 hours ago I 
installed the 
free version of Zone Alarm.
 As of a few minutes ago more than 3400 intrusions and access attempts have
 been blocked by the program.  That's mind boggling!
 
 My thanks to all who recommended the program.
 
 
 Shel

I bought the program from my local Staples store last January and found the 
same thing.
While on dial 
up i would get constant opoups re intrusions. Having moved to always on DSL, i 
don't get
the pop ups, 
so i quess its working more in the background for some reason.

Dave






Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread brooksdj
I had some problems recently on the ibook with 2 cards, so i'm not sure its 
justa windows
problem.

I just close the drivepull out then reinsert the card reader and everything 
works fine.

Dave 

 If you insert a card into a reader and 
transfer 
the files to a Windows 
 PC, you must then go through Windows' procedure to remove the card. But 
 this shuts down that drive, so you can't insert another card and 
 continue transferring files. Windows won't see it. You have to restart 
 the computer.
 
 Is there a way to get Windows to recognize a newly-inserted card (or 
 other device) after one has gone through the procedure to remove the 
 previous card?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
 






RE: GESO: Blues

2006-05-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Your band sure sound like a hefty act Jens. And you where able to keep a
steady beat. I don't really remember the Cream version, but as I recall, you
sound a bit looser, a bit jazzier. The singers nasal sound is very similar
to Clapton ;-)

Never the less. This and Cream is or RB, rhythm and blues. Clapton has
rerecorded the song, acoustic, him and Peter Green. That's much closer to
the original Johnson recording (I've got that on CD). Less bells and
whistles, and a lot harder to play. 

I've also found a version by Tom Waits, very different, but pretty hefty
too.

I'm also trying to download the Cream version. So far, in vain :-(


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 14. mai 2006 10:26
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: GESO: Blues
 
 That's true, Butch.
 In the late sixties the guitar palyer in my band visited London. He was
 the first Danish guy to buy a WOW-WOW pedal there.
 We formed a band playing all the great Cream songs: Sunshine of Your Love,
 Strange Brew and of course Crossroads. We named the band - very orininally
 -
 Crowd. We had lots of gigs for a year or two. I was the drummer and my kid
 brother Ole (16 years at the time) was the singer and bass player.
 Here's Crossroads in our cover-version:
 http://www.jensbladt.dk/Images/Crowd-Crossroads-1969.mp3
 
 Regards
 Jens
 
 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 +45 56 63 77 11
 +45 23 43 85 77
 Skype: jensbladt248
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 14. maj 2006 03:21
 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Emne: RE: GESO: Blues
 
 
 Jens wrote
 
 I think it floats just fine. This is not Eric Clapton and Cream, playing
 in
 arecord studio.
 It's really folk music - hobo music, isn't it? Originally played by people
 with no education, walking from street to street, playing for the poor
 people, day-labourers, whores, guests in cheap crummy restaurants etc.
 That
 is at least the impression I get from the lyrics in the songs. To me this
 sound just about right ;-)
 
 
 The original was done by Robert Johnson and was much closer to that
 version
 then Cream's version was. Cream's version is in my opinion is a prime
 example of English blues rock of the 60's and is in my personal top ten
 songs of all time. Clapton has since proved he is as adept at playing
 traditional Chicago blues and is no slouch at acoustic blues either.
 
 Butch
 
 
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Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Adam Maas

Shel,

Windows doesn't remove the originals until the copy is successful. That 
said, I always used copy rather than cut to be on the safe side.


-Adam


Shel Belinkoff wrote:


That strikes me as courting disaster.  Should there be a problem when
xfering the files, you may have lost the originals.

Shel



 


[Original Message]
From: Don Williams 
   



 

Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When 
they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing left on the 
card. May be dangerous I suppose but so far I haven't had an accident.



--
Dr E D F Williams
www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
   



 





Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread Adam Maas

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Somewhat less than 48 hours ago I installed the 
free version of Zone Alarm.
 


As of a few minutes ago more than 3400 intrusions and access attempts have
been blocked by the program.  That's mind boggling!

My thanks to all who recommended the program.


Shel
   



I bought the program from my local Staples store last January and found the 
same thing.
While on dial 
up i would get constant opoups re intrusions. Having moved to always on DSL, i don't get
the pop ups, 
so i quess its working more in the background for some reason.


Dave


 

Cable and Dial address blocks tend to get scanned for open machines the 
most. DSL address blocks are less popular for scanning and if you have 
your own block routed you will get scanned quite rarely. My block gets 
hit about 8-10 times a day, but I'm on my own /28 (Block of 16 IP addresses)


-Adam



Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread Charles Robinson

On May 15, 2006, at 6:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I bought the program from my local Staples store last January and  
found the same thing.

While on dial
up i would get constant opoups re intrusions. Having moved to  
always on DSL, i don't get

the pop ups,
so i quess its working more in the background for some reason.



When you dialed up, your PC was connected directly to the Internet.

With DSL, you're sitting behind a modem (DSL router) so your PC  
most likely does not have a publicly-reachable IP address.  Thus,  
nothing can hit you directly unless you forward ports inbound through  
the router.


There are exceptions, of course, but that is the most likely scenario/ 
explanation.


 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org



Re: GESO: Blues

2006-05-15 Thread Adam Maas
The Cream version is pretty good. Clapton's done Crossroads three 
different times, with Cream, Derek  The Dominoes and solo, although 
there are about a half-dozen different performances of Clapton doing it 
floating around.


If you like Robert Johnson, Clapton did a pair of tribute albums a 
couple of years ago that are extremely good. I've got the second 
(Sessions for Robert J.) and really need to pick up the first. The one I 
have comes with a DVD of the studio session at Clapton's home, which is 
quite entertaining.


-Adam
Who will note that even Lynyrd Skynyrd has done Crossroads.



Tim Øsleby wrote:


Your band sure sound like a hefty act Jens. And you where able to keep a
steady beat. I don't really remember the Cream version, but as I recall, you
sound a bit looser, a bit jazzier. The singers nasal sound is very similar
to Clapton ;-)

Never the less. This and Cream is or RB, rhythm and blues. Clapton has
rerecorded the song, acoustic, him and Peter Green. That's much closer to
the original Johnson recording (I've got that on CD). Less bells and
whistles, and a lot harder to play. 


I've also found a version by Tom Waits, very different, but pretty hefty
too.

I'm also trying to download the Cream version. So far, in vain :-(


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)


 


-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14. mai 2006 10:26
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: GESO: Blues

That's true, Butch.
In the late sixties the guitar palyer in my band visited London. He was
the first Danish guy to buy a WOW-WOW pedal there.
We formed a band playing all the great Cream songs: Sunshine of Your Love,
Strange Brew and of course Crossroads. We named the band - very orininally
-
Crowd. We had lots of gigs for a year or two. I was the drummer and my kid
brother Ole (16 years at the time) was the singer and bass player.
Here's Crossroads in our cover-version:
http://www.jensbladt.dk/Images/Crowd-Crossroads-1969.mp3

Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. maj 2006 03:21
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: GESO: Blues


Jens wrote

I think it floats just fine. This is not Eric Clapton and Cream, playing
in
arecord studio.
It's really folk music - hobo music, isn't it? Originally played by people
with no education, walking from street to street, playing for the poor
people, day-labourers, whores, guests in cheap crummy restaurants etc.
That
is at least the impression I get from the lyrics in the songs. To me this
sound just about right ;-)


The original was done by Robert Johnson and was much closer to that
version
then Cream's version was. Cream's version is in my opinion is a prime
example of English blues rock of the 60's and is in my personal top ten
songs of all time. Clapton has since proved he is as adept at playing
traditional Chicago blues and is no slouch at acoustic blues either.

Butch


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Re: OT: Reference for vintage camera values

2006-05-15 Thread Stephen Moore

Yep, that rings a bell.
Thanks much!

Stephen

Derby Chang wrote:



McKeown's?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0931838339/103-8438863-2441428?v=glancen=283155 


http://tinyurl.com/gg5z3




[OT] Mark - I still can't contact you via mail :-(

2006-05-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

Hi Mark,
my mails are still bounced, even when sent to your another e-mail  
adress, I tried my three different mail accounts without any success :-(


Cheers,
Sylwek




Re: GESO: Birds of prey portraits

2006-05-15 Thread Toine

LOL, no you didn't :)
In my defence I could argue that the birds were strapped down by it's
owner and merely sitting ducks.

About the one eyed owl. I somehow like it like this. The big hairy
nose prevented a full view on the second eye. The shots of him or her
en face are unfortunately out of focus.

On 5/15/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damn these are nice, did I mention that I hate you???  (Frank make a note).


Toine wrote:

 These birds of prey were on display for a show. I decided to try some
 portraits of these magnificent birds.

 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_1.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_2.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_3.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_4.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_5.htm

 istD SMC-F 70-210, 800 ASA

 Any suggestions/comments are welcome.

 Toine





--
When you're worried or in doubt,
   Run in circles, (scream and shout).






PAW - Tatoo You

2006-05-15 Thread frank theriault

I think my last PAW got somewhat lost in the list problems of last
week.  I never got it on my list, and neither did I see a reply
(although a quick check of the archives showed two or three replies).
Thanks to those who looked at last week's and commented.

It was a pretty lousy photo anyway.

This week's is not much better, I fear:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5806/2203/1600/trackstars.1.jpg

Taken in front of the most interesting bike shop I've ever seen,
Trackstars in NYC.  All they sell is trackbikes and track-specific
components.  As so many messengers use track bikes on the streets,
it's a popular shop with both racers and messengers, and few others
(being as trackbikes aren't used for much other than on the velodrome
and by couriers.

An interesting and eclectic crowd, to be sure...

Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: [OT] Mark - I still can't contact you via mail :-(

2006-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

Hi Mark,
my mails are still bounced, even when sent to your another e-mail  
adress, I tried my three different mail accounts without any success :-(

Wow. 193.17.41.51 is list in five different block lists that I could
find. Including one that's in Poland!
Ok... Last try: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If that one doesn't go through you really need to have a word with
your email provider as to why they're so widely blocked.



Re: Test II

2006-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
I agree. :(

Jack




--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Davis
 Subject: Test II
 
 
  Is the list protected by a trite filter? My tripe is not coming out
 the
  other end.
 
 I'm pretty sure there is a no self tripification option.
 
 William Robb
 
 
 


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Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Boris,

Why do you have a need for time synchronization software?  Windows does
that automatically if you tick the little box in the tome and date
properties.  Do you need more than that?

My problem arose because, while running Windows repair it deleted all my
security patches and updates, and when I went on line to reactivate
Windows, not knowing the patches were gone, my machine got infected with
several Trojans - all in the course of four minutes! 

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Boris Liberman 

 Shel, a short story for you:

 I have a time synchronization software on my PC at home. I did not
 have time to set up my firewall to let it through properly. So I've
 shut down the firewall for a moment in order to sync the time of my
 PC. It took 2 mins tops.

 When done I realized my PC was infected with two trojan programs.

 I hope that you'd enjoy using the personal fire wall from ZoneAlarm,
 as it is known to be very good.

 -- 
 Boris




Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

I sorta knew that - IOW, I wasn't sure.  But, when working with important
photos on a computer, it never hurts to play it safe.  There's always the
possibility that  you can hit the wrong key and end up deleting files
rather than pasting them.  It seems to me that if you've spent a full day
out photographing, or even just a few minutes making some important shots,
an extra second or two being cautious is good insurance.  Probably the
chances of losing your work are small, but, to paraphrase an often seen
bumper sticker, Stuff Happens.

It seems interesting that someone can say that their technique may be
dangerous and then continue using it because so far there haven't been
problems.  

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Adam Maas 

 Windows doesn't remove the originals until the copy is successful. That 
 said, I always used copy rather than cut to be on the safe side.

 -Adam


 Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 That strikes me as courting disaster.  Should there be a problem when
 xfering the files, you may have lost the originals.

Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When 
they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing left on the 
card. May be dangerous I suppose but so far I haven't had an accident.




Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Did you have card problems before using this technique?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bob Shell 

 I don't know the details either, but I do know that deleting files  
 from the card in a card reader can cause trouble.  Always do it in  
 the camera.

 Several years ago one of the Nikon tech experts told me to always  
 format the card at least twice.  On many digital cameras you will  
 note that the amount of space used on the card by the hidden files  
 drops after the second formatting.  Since I've taken his advice and  
 done this I have had zero card problems.

 Bob




Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Dave,

There's a way to configure the program so that you don't see the pop-up
alerts.  I didn't know that when first using the program, but soon figured
it out.  Also, the program learns over time, so that when you see a
pop-up and tell it how to handle the situation, subsequent alert windows
for the same situation won't appear.  At least that's how I understand it,
and how it seems to be working.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Somewhat less than 48 hours ago I installed the 
. free version of Zone Alarm.
  As of a few minutes ago more than 3400 intrusions 
  and access attempts have been blocked by the program.  
  That's mind boggling!
 

 I bought the program from my local Staples store last 
 January and found the same thing.
 While on dial 
 up i would get constant opoups re intrusions. Having moved 
 to always on DSL, i don't get
 the pop ups, 
 so i quess its working more in the background for some reason.




RE: GESO: Birds of prey portraits

2006-05-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Since they where on display I guess it wasn't much of a sport getting the
pictures. But as pictures they are very good. And I don't agree with Bob and
Bob, the one eyed bird is supahcool. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Toine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 14. mai 2006 21:43
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: GESO: Birds of prey portraits
 
 These birds of prey were on display for a show. I decided to try some
 portraits of these magnificent birds.
 
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_1.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_2.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_3.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_4.htm
 http://leende.net/galleries/roofvogels/roof_5.htm
 
 istD SMC-F 70-210, 800 ASA
 
 Any suggestions/comments are welcome.
 
 Toine
 






Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards

2006-05-15 Thread Bob Shell


On May 15, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Did you have card problems before using this technique?


Yes, now and then.  That's why I asked the techie about it.

Bob



Re: [OT] Mark - I still can't contact you via mail :-(

2006-05-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk


On 15.05.2006, at 15:06, Mark Roberts wrote:


Wow. 193.17.41.51 is list in five different block lists that I could
find. Including one that's in Poland!
Ok... Last try: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If that one doesn't go through you really need to have a word with
your email provider as to why they're so widely blocked.
80.55.10.170 which I used in one of my mails to you isn't so widely  
blocked ;-) Did you get my mail at above adress?


Cheers,
Sylwek




Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/06, Shel Belinkoff, [offensive verb deleted], unleashed:

I didn't see Cotty's post, but I gotta say, coming from a guy who shoots
JPEG the remark is a bit disingenuous vbg

If I shot weddings, of course I would shoot RAW. I would also be using
the best possible quality gear I could afford, certainly full frame,
maybe larger. But then again, I wouldn't be shooting cheapies with that.
You get what you pay for!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

I effin'  ~hate~ Cotty's discombobulate line - it irritates me no end.

(well, he was begging for that one ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/06, Brian Dunn, discombobulated, unleashed:


Imagine how much four or five of today's top of the line DSLRs would cost.  
I'm simply using yesterday's instead.  Many great weddings have been covered 
with the same stuff.

I could cover the entire thing with a single K1000 and one lens, and do
a nice 
job, too.  Plenty of people have done so for many decades.

Point taken. I guess there's no end to the way the world turns. Down our
way, weddings are big business and command high fees and top quality.
The only wedding I have worked at professionally was where I was
employed as a cameraman to shoot it on broadcast quality gear. Their was
a stills man as well with a case full of Hassys and an assistant. He was
kept very busy - I decided there and then that in no way would I ever
get involved in shooting stills at weddings!

Good luck.





Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

I don't let it get to me.  But I do find it rather puerile.

I agree.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

Unfortunately, it's become like fingernails scraping on a blackboard to me.
I agree with your description in every sense of the word.

Shel, I think the time has come for you to kill file me. It can only get
worse.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Why do you have a need for time synchronization software?  Windows does
that automatically if you tick the little box in the tome and date
properties.  Do you need more than that?


Shel, it is a matter of my personal preference. However, as a matter
of course, I disable all moving parts of the software on my computer
that are not (absolutely) essential. This way I keep Windoze overheads
and bloats to the minimum. The clock of my PC is quite precise. I was
playing with my newly acquired cell phone (Motorola L7) and its PC
companion software - hence the need to synchronize the clocks.

I merely was trying to make a point that without a fire wall (either
personal or, wherever applicable, corporate) it is rather risky these
days to surf the web.

--
Boris



Re: Charter Cable --OT

2006-05-15 Thread graywolf

Yes, but it is still fun to think about.

Always been that way. Used to be they had to accept dimes and above, but 
now that they have no intrinsic value I think all US coins are just a 
convenience and not legal tender. However $1 bills and above are by law 
legal tender for all debts public and private. Says so right on them. 
If someone refuses them they are saying in effect that they do not 
require you to pay them, and that discharges the debt.


BTW: actually from the above you will realize the law probably only 
requires them to accept coins for the fraction of dollars involved. 
Where did you get that $2.00 idea?


The urban legend about the wheelbarrow full of pennies is actually case 
law, but unlike the UL the guy with the pennies lost. The court ruled 
that pennies having no intrinsic value were not acceptable as legal 
tender for payment of debts, that however if the defendant had tried to 
pay with dimes or above he would have been home free. That is why I now 
figure that no current coins are actually legal tender, I do not think 
the new coins have ever actually been tested in court.




graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


P. J. Alling wrote:

The problem with that solution is that I don't think they have to accept
more than 50¢ in loose pennies, and if they really want to be sticklers
the law only requires them to accept $2.00 in pennies even if they're in
rolls.

graywolf wrote:

Hum..? It is only $0.95 (I am going to have to figure out how to do a 
cents sign someday) right now. And I go to the PO most every day (use 
a PO Box for all my mail). And, the PO will take my Visa card. Thanks 
for the idea. However, I have to admit that going to Charters local 
office and dumping $65 worth of pennies on the counter sounds like a 
lot of fun too.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---


P. J. Alling wrote:

It'll cost an extra buck or so but you can pay by Postal Money order, 
it's a pain to go the PO every month to get a Money Order but I'd 
like to see them try that with the Post Office.


graywolf wrote:

You guys who have charter cable look at your bill closely this 
month. Hidden on the last page is a notice that can give them 
virtually carte blanc access to your bank accounts if you agree to 
it by making your payment by check. Here is a copy of that notice:


http://www.graywolfphoto.com/_temp%20images/charter-cable.jpg

Charter has often shown that they do not care about their customers, 
and that they will skirt the law in anyway that they think might 
benefit them. This is one step too far in my opinion. The problem is 
that I have no other options in HS Internet access here where I am. 
I am not sure what I am going to do about this, but I do know that I 
am not going to give people who have again and again shown that they 
are basically dishonest access to my bank accounts.
















Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread Don Williams
When I said it might be dangerous I was thinking of some set of 
circumstances of which I am totally unaware. Windows does not delete a 
directory entry until the 'Paste' is complete. If something goes wrong 
to stop the transfer the file is left as it was. You might be just as 
far up the creek with 'Copy' if there was a power failure. I have worked 
with Windows for a long time and never come across a set of 
circumstances where 'Cut' resulted in a lost directory entry. Does being 
'cautious' mean that one should not go to sleep for fear of not waking 
again? By the way the directory structure on a CF card is standard FAT32 
and formatting from the PC should be perfectly okay. But the camera 
needs a directory as well.


I suppose to be really safe one should copy the files twice and then 
keep the card untouched until all the images have been processed and 
archived or one reaches reaches 80 when its hardly going to matter any more.


Don

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hi,

I sorta knew that - IOW, I wasn't sure.  But, when working with important
photos on a computer, it never hurts to play it safe.  There's always the
possibility that  you can hit the wrong key and end up deleting files
rather than pasting them.  It seems to me that if you've spent a full day
out photographing, or even just a few minutes making some important shots,
an extra second or two being cautious is good insurance.  Probably the
chances of losing your work are small, but, to paraphrase an often seen
bumper sticker, Stuff Happens.

It seems interesting that someone can say that their technique may be
dangerous and then continue using it because so far there haven't been
problems.  


Shel



  

[Original Message]
From: Adam Maas 



  
Windows doesn't remove the originals until the copy is successful. That 
said, I always used copy rather than cut to be on the safe side.


-Adam


Shel Belinkoff wrote:



That strikes me as courting disaster.  Should there be a problem when
xfering the files, you may have lost the originals.
  


  
Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When 
they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing left on the 
card. May be dangerous I suppose but so far I haven't had an accident.
  





  



--
Dr E D F Williams
www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616



Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm not going to put you in a kill file.  You sometimes have good things to
say, and I enjoy seeing your photos.  We've discussed this privately, and
you've known my feelings for some time, as have I yours.  If you enjoy
repeating the same thing over and over again, so be it.  However, like any
sig, after a while it gets old, regardless of what the comment or
commentary may be.  Perhaps it's time to come up with something new and
fresh - I know you're clever enough to do so.

Apart from the constant repetition, I just don't think it's a very nice
line, continually telling people that they are confused.  It's not funny
any more (not that I ever found it particularly humorous), and whatever
point it may have had has long since been made and is now worn out.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Cotty 

 On 14/5/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Unfortunately, it's become like fingernails scraping on a blackboard to
me.
 I agree with your description in every sense of the word.

 Shel, I think the time has come for you to kill file me. It can only get
 worse.




Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Scott Loveless

On 5/15/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Shel, I think the time has come for you to kill file me. It can only get
worse.



Mark!


--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



RE: PEOW:My Baby and Her Baby

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I like it - you do such nice family snaps ;-))

A smoother or more interesting background could help, but it's not too bad
as is ...

Remembering many of your photos, I'd say you're about ready for a 77mm Ltd,
both in terms of focal length and good image quality.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Jay Taylor 

 Been away from posting on the list lately. Still following some  
 though.  My youngest daughter came over to cook dinner for her Mom   
 on Mothers Day. Here is shot of here and her new puppy Baby .   
 Taken with the *istDS and the FA*50 f/1.4. Would have been a better  
 shot with maybe a telephoto to blur the background a bit more. But oh  
 well, sometimes you just have to settle for what you get.
 Comments always helpful. Thanks for looking.

 JayT
 http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/60205137.DanielleBaby.jpg




Anti Spyware Programs

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Right now I'm using Ad-Aware and Spybot SD, and it might be nice to have
third or even a fourth program upon which to rely.  Over the years I've
noticed some programs find items others don't.  Any suggestions for good,
safe, Freeware or Shareware programs?  Anyone using this one: 
http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/?ref=g77


Shel





Re: PAW - Tatoo You

2006-05-15 Thread Scott Loveless

On 5/15/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This week's is not much better, I fear:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5806/2203/1600/trackstars.1.jpg



On the contrary, I rather like it.  The interaction is very nice and I
find the tonality pleasing.

--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:

On 5/15/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shel, I think the time has come for you to kill file me. It can only get
 worse.

Mark!

Har!

BTW: I know several very talented wedding pros locally who do great
work and shoot with the Rebel-D. The one really high-end guy, with
whom I worked for a couple of gigs last summer, uses a 1D-II, but even
he shoots manual exposure, manual focus all the time so the Rebel
shooters are really giving up ruggedness and a small amount of image
quality. If a Rebel-D gets damaged or stolen during a shoot, they just
buy another second-hand one somewhere. 



Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards

2006-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't delete files from the card until after I've transferred them  
to the computer or image tank and verified they're good by reading  
them or converting them to DNG.


Once the files are verified, I use the camera to delete all (if I  
have any with protect bit set) or format (if I don't). The two  
commands differ in that delete all erases the individual file entries  
in the FAT structure, where Format re-writes the FAT structure.  
Format might also map out bad blocks, but I've never seen it actually  
do that. Some cards format is faster, some delete all is faster. I  
haven't found a rhyme or reason to it, nor have I really seen any  
problems with either.


Deleting in a reader is equivalent to using delete or delete all.  
I've never seen any problems doing that but then my workflow has been  
as above since when I started working with digital cameras.


Formatting in a reader has been said to cause problems sometimes. On  
the other hand, I have one report from someone who said they were  
able to use 4G SD cards in a *ist DS by formatting them as FAT file  
system with their Mac OS X system. I've never done it and always use  
the camera to format cards.


Godfrey

On May 14, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Over the past few months I've read that one shouldn't delete files  
from a
memory card in the computer, and that the deletions should take  
place in

the camera, preferably by formatting the card because it's a faster
operation than deletion and because formatting may fix any  
anomalies.  I've

also read that it doesn't matter where the files are deleted.
Additionally, it's been written that one shouldn't format the cards  
in the
computer, but to use the camera in which the card will be used.  I  
agree

with that if for no other reason than it feels right and comfortable.

So, what's the consensus on deletion - FWIW, I've deleted  
frequently in the

computer because it's fast and simple, and have yet to encounter any
problems - although that's not an indication that there may not be a
problem in the future.

If you feel like commenting on the formatting issue, please do - other
ideas are welcome.


Shel







Re: Semi-OT: Transferring Image Files to Windows PC

2006-05-15 Thread John Francis

While the file delete doesn't take place until after an
individual file has been copied, you can still lose, big
time, if there's a problem updating the directory.
In any case, it's faster (as well as safer) to clear out
the card by re-formatting it, rather than deleting files.


On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 08:12:29AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
 Shel,
 
 Windows doesn't remove the originals until the copy is successful. That 
 said, I always used copy rather than cut to be on the safe side.
 
 -Adam
 
 
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 That strikes me as courting disaster.  Should there be a problem when
 xfering the files, you may have lost the originals.
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  
 
 [Original Message]
 From: Don Williams 

 
 
  
 
 Same here -- and I choose 'Cut' not 'Copy' when transferring. When 
 they've been 'Pasted' to the hard drive there's nothing left on the 
 card. May be dangerous I suppose but so far I haven't had an accident.
 
 
 -- 
 Dr E D F Williams
 www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
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Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards

2006-05-15 Thread Dario Bonazza
And, despite being unadviceable, I can also format SD cards with my Optio 
555 and use them on the *istD and vice versa, and I can even see 6Mpix 
pictures taken with the D on the 555 display.


Anyone else noticed such or other wild behavior?

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards


I don't delete files from the card until after I've transferred them  to 
the computer or image tank and verified they're good by reading  them or 
converting them to DNG.


Once the files are verified, I use the camera to delete all (if I  have 
any with protect bit set) or format (if I don't). The two  commands 
differ in that delete all erases the individual file entries  in the FAT 
structure, where Format re-writes the FAT structure.  Format might also 
map out bad blocks, but I've never seen it actually  do that. Some cards 
format is faster, some delete all is faster. I  haven't found a rhyme or 
reason to it, nor have I really seen any  problems with either.


Deleting in a reader is equivalent to using delete or delete all.  I've 
never seen any problems doing that but then my workflow has been  as above 
since when I started working with digital cameras.


Formatting in a reader has been said to cause problems sometimes. On  the 
other hand, I have one report from someone who said they were  able to use 
4G SD cards in a *ist DS by formatting them as FAT file  system with their 
Mac OS X system. I've never done it and always use  the camera to format 
cards.


Godfrey

On May 14, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Over the past few months I've read that one shouldn't delete files  from 
a

memory card in the computer, and that the deletions should take  place in
the camera, preferably by formatting the card because it's a faster
operation than deletion and because formatting may fix any  anomalies. 
I've

also read that it doesn't matter where the files are deleted.
Additionally, it's been written that one shouldn't format the cards  in 
the

computer, but to use the camera in which the card will be used.  I  agree
with that if for no other reason than it feels right and comfortable.

So, what's the consensus on deletion - FWIW, I've deleted  frequently in 
the

computer because it's fast and simple, and have yet to encounter any
problems - although that's not an indication that there may not be a
problem in the future.

If you feel like commenting on the formatting issue, please do - other
ideas are welcome.


Shel









Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
boat, muddy the waters, etc.

Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.

So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
sell it.

Factors making me want to keep it:
1) I love the way it feels and works.
2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.

I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
both happy and sad...



Re: Hood Q

2006-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'd use a generic, metal, standard lens hood (BH Photo sells the  
Kalt brand in 67mm for $13).


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? 
O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=70751is=REGaddedTroughType=categoryNavi 
gation


http://tinyurl.com/gwgt9

I did the same with my FA28-105/3.2-4.5 AL IF and it worked very  
nicely. Here's a picture:

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lenshood-lineup-1845.jpg
(second from the right). It's not the best possible hood at 105mm,  
but it didn't vignette at 28mm. I use the same hood on the 20-35/4  
and it also doesn't vignette, does a respectable job.


I dislike rubber lens hoods. They just seem to get in the way a lot  
of the time.


Godfrey


On May 12, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Fernando Terrazzino wrote:


Hi,

I just bought a 24-90 zoom to use in my *istDS and it didn't come with
the hood. Now, my question is, should I get a wideangle hood or a
regular one? I mean, should the crop factor influence the hood
selection?
Any one tried those cheap rubber hoods? Would that be good enough?

I emailed Pentax Canada today to know if I could get a replacement but
I don't expect any answer anytime soon ;-)

Thanks

Fernando





Re: Charter Cable --OT

2006-05-15 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:15:04AM -0400, graywolf wrote:
 Yes, but it is still fun to think about.
 
 Always been that way. Used to be they had to accept dimes and above, but 
 now that they have no intrinsic value I think all US coins are just a 
 convenience and not legal tender. However $1 bills and above are by law 
 legal tender for all debts public and private. Says so right on them. 
 If someone refuses them they are saying in effect that they do not 
 require you to pay them, and that discharges the debt.

[Oh, look - the old Legal Tender mare's nest crops up here.]

No it doesn't - the debt still stands.   What you are protected
from, though, is any additional penalties that would otherwise
accrue from a failure to pay.



Re: OT: Slik Pro 804 CF tripod??

2006-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've not used the Slik and am not sure of the model, but I wasn't  
overly impressed with the two at the local camera store. I already  
have a set of Manfrotto 3444D legs that I bought when I had the  
Hasselblads ... they work great with both the Sony R1 and the Pentax  
DS ... but I'm also considering a set of Bogen/Manfrotto 190MF4s as  
they're smaller, lighter, have a trickier column for doing macro, and  
they're sturdy enough for what I need now. A little pricey but I like  
the column design and leg locks.


Godfrey

On May 13, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Has anyone had any experience with this tripod? I picked one up on  
ebay for $150 yesterday. I need something light for walks in the  
woods. My Bogen 3036 is great, but it's killing me :-).

Paul





Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread John Francis

I'm in exactly the same situation.

On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:53:21PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
 open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
 boat, muddy the waters, etc.
 
 Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
 more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
 almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
 occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
 reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
 that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.
 
 So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
 magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
 me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
 actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
 sell it.
 
 Factors making me want to keep it:
 1) I love the way it feels and works.
 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
 film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.
 
 I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
 days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
 both happy and sad...



Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Aaron Reynolds


On May 15, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Cotty wrote:


If I shot weddings, of course I would shoot RAW. I would also be using
the best possible quality gear I could afford, certainly full frame,
maybe larger. But then again, I wouldn't be shooting cheapies with 
that.

You get what you pay for!


It all depends on how you're using it, Cotty, and what the client wants 
in the end.  If they're making 8x10s and smaller (and who does bigger 
than 8x10s from the non-group shots?), what's wrong with 6MP digital?  
If you know what you're doing, it looks great pretty much regardless of 
what camera you're using.


I have an ME Super and an LX -- I rarely used the LX for the candids 
part of a wedding.  It was bigger and louder and didn't offer me 
anything above what the ME Super was offering me in terms of the 
finished product.  The groups were shot with the 67.


What's a full-frame DSLR going to give you, as an advantage, for 
weddings?  Cheaper wide-angle lenses?  The crop factor with less than 
35mm sized sensors actually can be very advantageous when extending 
those fast primes to get closer in low light.


-Aaron



Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I have exactly the same question about my LX.  I never use it anymore.  
Plus, it's a beater in terms of looks, though it functions just fine.  
Don't imagine I'd get enough for it to be worth my while selling it, 
but it does no one any good on my shelf.


-Aaron

On May 15, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
boat, muddy the waters, etc.

Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.

So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
sell it.

Factors making me want to keep it:
1) I love the way it feels and works.
2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.

I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
both happy and sad...





Re: OT: Slik Pro 804 CF tripod??

2006-05-15 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Slik have two lines: crappy and nice.  Most places stock the crappies 
because they're cheap.


I never saw one of the 804 CFs in person, but I always wanted one.  
Their pro tripods were very nice.


-Aaron

On May 15, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I've not used the Slik and am not sure of the model, but I wasn't 
overly impressed with the two at the local camera store. I already 
have a set of Manfrotto 3444D legs that I bought when I had the 
Hasselblads ... they work great with both the Sony R1 and the Pentax 
DS ... but I'm also considering a set of Bogen/Manfrotto 190MF4s as 
they're smaller, lighter, have a trickier column for doing macro, and 
they're sturdy enough for what I need now. A little pricey but I like 
the column design and leg locks.


Godfrey

On May 13, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Has anyone had any experience with this tripod? I picked one up on 
ebay for $150 yesterday. I need something light for walks in the 
woods. My Bogen 3036 is great, but it's killing me :-).

Paul







Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards

2006-05-15 Thread Dario Bonazza

Of course, I menat DS, not D :-)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards


And, despite being unadviceable, I can also format SD cards with my Optio 
555 and use them on the *istD and vice versa, and I can even see 6Mpix 
pictures taken with the D on the 555 display.


Anyone else noticed such or other wild behavior?

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Deleting Files From Memory Cards


I don't delete files from the card until after I've transferred them  to 
the computer or image tank and verified they're good by reading  them or 
converting them to DNG.


Once the files are verified, I use the camera to delete all (if I  have 
any with protect bit set) or format (if I don't). The two  commands 
differ in that delete all erases the individual file entries  in the FAT 
structure, where Format re-writes the FAT structure.  Format might also 
map out bad blocks, but I've never seen it actually  do that. Some cards 
format is faster, some delete all is faster. I  haven't found a rhyme or 
reason to it, nor have I really seen any  problems with either.


Deleting in a reader is equivalent to using delete or delete all.  I've 
never seen any problems doing that but then my workflow has been  as 
above since when I started working with digital cameras.


Formatting in a reader has been said to cause problems sometimes. On  the 
other hand, I have one report from someone who said they were  able to 
use 4G SD cards in a *ist DS by formatting them as FAT file  system with 
their Mac OS X system. I've never done it and always use  the camera to 
format cards.


Godfrey

On May 14, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Over the past few months I've read that one shouldn't delete files  from 
a
memory card in the computer, and that the deletions should take  place 
in

the camera, preferably by formatting the card because it's a faster
operation than deletion and because formatting may fix any  anomalies. 
I've

also read that it doesn't matter where the files are deleted.
Additionally, it's been written that one shouldn't format the cards  in 
the
computer, but to use the camera in which the card will be used.  I 
agree

with that if for no other reason than it feels right and comfortable.

So, what's the consensus on deletion - FWIW, I've deleted  frequently in 
the

computer because it's fast and simple, and have yet to encounter any
problems - although that's not an indication that there may not be a
problem in the future.

If you feel like commenting on the formatting issue, please do - other
ideas are welcome.


Shel











Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread mike
Selling can be enabling too!

Mike

 It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
 open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
 boat, muddy the waters, etc.

 Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
 more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
 almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
 occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
 reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
 that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.

 So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
 magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
 me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
 actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
 sell it.

 Factors making me want to keep it:
 1) I love the way it feels and works.
 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
 film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.

 I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
 days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
 both happy and sad...





Re: Ideas for Pentax

2006-05-15 Thread Aaron Reynolds


On May 15, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


BTW: I know several very talented wedding pros locally who do great
work and shoot with the Rebel-D. The one really high-end guy, with
whom I worked for a couple of gigs last summer, uses a 1D-II, but even
he shoots manual exposure, manual focus all the time so the Rebel
shooters are really giving up ruggedness and a small amount of image
quality. If a Rebel-D gets damaged or stolen during a shoot, they just
buy another second-hand one somewhere.


Exactly!

-Aaron



flash and shadows

2006-05-15 Thread Thibouille

I'm a really true newbie concerning flash photography.
I can use flash but it is often very ugly lol.

I need to take pictures of my gear for a quick little website for my studies.
I took a couple with a lens placed on a white drawing A3 paper.
Results are OK for a cheap hack but shadows from the integrated flash
are problematic.
I also own an Metz 40MZ2 but TTL is often unreliable with my D.

Equipment used:
* ist-D
* SMCP 100/3.5 macro

Any cheap advice/trick?
Thanks

--
Thibouille
--
*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...



Re: GESO: fishy

2006-05-15 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Not a lens that I will use often, but it certainly is fun. First roll 
with the Sigma 8mm fisheye.  A new set of instincts have to be trained 
to use this lens. Keeping arms and legs out of shot is one of them. 
Keeping a blower is another - dust on the lens surface shows in the shot.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index8/06_05_8mm/index.htm


Gee, it is ultimate form of a square format - the circle ;-).

Admirable work, Derby.

Boris



Re: PESO and issue with *ist DS

2006-05-15 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

I've been off the list for a short while, time for my second child to 
get born... So now Clarisse is there.


So here's my PESO of the day:

http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/Clarisse/2006-05-04+Naissance+Clarisse+-+72+-+10x15+cadre.jpg.html 


or http://tinyurl.com/e9kgv


Congratulations. The birth is always a little miracle, isn't it?

Boris



Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread wendy beard

On 5/15/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
sell it.

Factors making me want to keep it:
1) I love the way it feels and works.
2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.



My feelings exactly. I agree on all three points.
Part of me says I should sell it because I'm not using it and the
other part says I should keep it because it's a thing of beauty.
I went through something similar with my LX. I sold it and then ended
up buying another one to replace it because I felt I should still have
one. Pretty stupid really.
I held onto the MZ-S because I wanted a good AF camera to go with my
limited lenses, but I still didn't use the camera - which meant I
didn't use the lenses either! I haven't used the 43mm in years (three
at least).  It's even longer since I ever used the 360 FGZ flash

--
Wendy Beard
Ottawa
Canada



Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Mark,
I'll be watching your posts with even greater interest since, as I've
mentioned before, I'm emotionally involved with the MZ-S, w/BG10
battery grip and 360 flash. 
I'm optimistic about the AF-360FGZ working on the K10D..if needed.(?)
I've sold equipment totaling $3,700, so am positioned well to seriously
consider the K10D with the comfort of no time pressure.

Jack


--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
 open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
 boat, muddy the waters, etc.
 
 Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
 more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
 almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
 occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
 reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
 that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.
 
 So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
 magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
 me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
 actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself
 to
 sell it.
 
 Factors making me want to keep it:
 1) I love the way it feels and works.
 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
 film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.
 
 I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
 days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
 both happy and sad...
 
 


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Re: Cleaning Out the Card Bay - istDS

2006-05-15 Thread Norman Baugher

Shel,
I would suggest a mild soap and hot water...
Norm

From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any suggestions for cleaning out the card bay in the DS?  The summer 
months

get pretty dusty around here - might it be an issue if dust or fine grit
gets into the card bay?  Would blowing it out with compressed air be OK, 
or

is there a better alternative?  IOs there something that'll slide into the
bay in lie of the card that might clean provide some cleaning action?





Re: Cleaning Out the Card Bay - istDS

2006-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Norman Baugher wrote:

I would suggest a mild soap and hot water...

And a wire brush.



Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote:

I'm in exactly the same situation.

Well that was helpful!
grin 
Sorry - I wasn't trying to be irritating... like Cotty ;-)



Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread frank theriault

On 5/15/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
boat, muddy the waters, etc.

Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.

So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
sell it.

Factors making me want to keep it:
1) I love the way it feels and works.
2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.

I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
both happy and sad...



Like you, I love the MX, and would (and do) choose it over supposedly
higher-end cameras (my LX, to be specific) on many occasions.

BUT, are there no occasions that you may need the use of an AF film
body?  That's one thing the MX can't do...

cheers,
frank



--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



RE: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread Malcolm Smith
Aaron Reynolds wrote:

 I have exactly the same question about my LX.  I never use it 
 anymore.  
 Plus, it's a beater in terms of looks, though it functions 
 just fine.  
 Don't imagine I'd get enough for it to be worth my while 
 selling it, but it does no one any good on my shelf.

I never thought I'd be using the LX again for anything other than slide
film. However, I've got to take photos at a children's party, where a few
parents have asked me if they can have pictures with their children in. No
problem; except they won't want slides and not all of them have computers -
or grandparents they will end up with. So I've just bought 5 rolls of colour
print film - something I never thought I'd buy again with an *ist D.
Sometimes, only a set of prints handed around does the job. I bet these will
be the lasting memory and the point and shoot digital images taken by others
there will be lost forever in the medium term.

Don't out the film camera yet (and particularly not an LX - really Aaron)!

Malcolm  




Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread Adam Maas

Malcolm Smith wrote:

Aaron Reynolds wrote:


I have exactly the same question about my LX.  I never use it 
anymore.  
Plus, it's a beater in terms of looks, though it functions 
just fine.  
Don't imagine I'd get enough for it to be worth my while 
selling it, but it does no one any good on my shelf.



I never thought I'd be using the LX again for anything other than slide
film. However, I've got to take photos at a children's party, where a few
parents have asked me if they can have pictures with their children in. No
problem; except they won't want slides and not all of them have computers -
or grandparents they will end up with. So I've just bought 5 rolls of colour
print film - something I never thought I'd buy again with an *ist D.
Sometimes, only a set of prints handed around does the job. I bet these will
be the lasting memory and the point and shoot digital images taken by others
there will be lost forever in the medium term.

Don't out the film camera yet (and particularly not an LX - really Aaron)!

Malcolm  



Of course, you could have just taken your memory card in to the lab and 
got prints from the exact same machine used for the film prints.


-Adam



Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread cbwaters

Sell it to me in two weeks for like Oh I duno a hundred bucks?

Truth be told, my wife had a minor episode when I got that new-looking MX 
for $20.  She wondered why the hell I was wasting my money on a 
twenty-something year old FILM camera...


CW

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?



It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
boat, muddy the waters, etc.

Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.

So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
sell it.

Factors making me want to keep it:
1) I love the way it feels and works.
2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.

I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
both happy and sad...



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Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread japilado
I put two ES II cameras to a new use - stereo photography.  I attach both
cameras to a long bracket and place them close together so that the 50 mm
lenses are slightly over two inches apart.  I use the hyperfocal method to
focus the cameras,  and operate the shutters using a double-cable release.
The system is heavy,  but I now have a new use for these two classic
Pentaxes.   I take slides that I mount myself.

Jim A.





 It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
 open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
 boat, muddy the waters, etc.

 Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
 more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
 almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
 occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
 reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
 that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.

 So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
 magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
 me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
 actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
 sell it.

 Factors making me want to keep it:
 1) I love the way it feels and works.
 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
 film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.

 I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
 days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
 both happy and sad...






Re: Charter Cable --OT

2006-05-15 Thread graywolf

Have you actually read the case? I have!

What I think you are thinking about are accepted partial payments. If a 
creditor  accepts a partial payment the clock starts over as far as 
legal action goes. A creditor does not have to accept a partial payment. 
He does have to accept payment in full. He does not have to accept your 
check, credit card, IPU, etc. He does have to accept cash. However a 
contract spelling out something different signed by both parties can 
modify all this as it is civil not criminal law.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
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[Oh, look - the old Legal Tender mare's nest crops up here.]

No it doesn't - the debt still stands.   What you are protected
from, though, is any additional penalties that would otherwise
accrue from a failure to pay.






Re: Cleaning Out the Card Bay - istDS

2006-05-15 Thread Norman Baugher

Shel,
I would suggest a mild soap and hot water...
Norm


From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any suggestions for cleaning out the card bay in the DS?  The summer 
months

get pretty dusty around here - might it be an issue if dust or fine grit
gets into the card bay?  Would blowing it out with compressed air be OK, 
or
is there a better alternative?  IOs there something that'll slide into 
the

bay in lie of the card that might clean provide some cleaning action?







Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread graywolf
This is nice lead into the BH Catalog that came in the mail the other 
day. There are more 4x5 cameras in it than 35mm film cameras. There are 
also still quite a few 120 film cameras but not as many as in the old 
days. Seems that the bigger the camera the more likely it is to continue 
to be made. Still two pages of film although some old standbys have 
disappeared. Check out the price on that latest incarnation of the Leica 
M3, mind boggling.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
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Mark Roberts wrote:

It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd
open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the
boat, muddy the waters, etc.

Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any
more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's
almost always BW, which means I use the 645. And on the rare
occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I
reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological -
that's what I'm looking for on those occasions.

So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech,
magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers
me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would
actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to
sell it.

Factors making me want to keep it:
1) I love the way it feels and works.
2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days.
3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end
film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line.

I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these
days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me
both happy and sad...






Re: OT: Reference for vintage camera values

2006-05-15 Thread Lewis Matthew
The edition pictured in the ad is the 2000-2001 edition. There is a 
2006-2006 edition.


Lewis



From: Stephen Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Reference for vintage camera values
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:37:34 -0400

Yep, that rings a bell.
Thanks much!

Stephen

Derby Chang wrote:



McKeown's?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0931838339/103-8438863-2441428?v=glancen=283155

http://tinyurl.com/gg5z3




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RE: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
It's been my habit to get a mini-lab CD with my prints in case I want
to make hand outs.
Slides scan well enough on my Epson 820 for 4x6's.

Jack

--- Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 
  I have exactly the same question about my LX.  I never use it 
  anymore.  
  Plus, it's a beater in terms of looks, though it functions 
  just fine.  
  Don't imagine I'd get enough for it to be worth my while 
  selling it, but it does no one any good on my shelf.
 
 I never thought I'd be using the LX again for anything other than
 slide
 film. However, I've got to take photos at a children's party, where a
 few
 parents have asked me if they can have pictures with their children
 in. No
 problem; except they won't want slides and not all of them have
 computers -
 or grandparents they will end up with. So I've just bought 5 rolls of
 colour
 print film - something I never thought I'd buy again with an *ist D.
 Sometimes, only a set of prints handed around does the job. I bet
 these will
 be the lasting memory and the point and shoot digital images taken by
 others
 there will be lost forever in the medium term.
 
 Don't out the film camera yet (and particularly not an LX - really
 Aaron)!
 
 Malcolm  
 
 
 


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Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?

2006-05-15 Thread collin . x . brenemuehl

I'd sell while the selling is good.

Back in late 1978, after having used my Model 1 16K computer for about a
year
the trend was building w/in Radio Shack to drop prices before cancelling
product.
I'd heard hints of the price drop so sold the computer for $700.  (Paid
$988 for it a
year earlier, and threw in all the software I had purched.)
Two weeks later RS dropped the price to $599.  Boy, did I feel good.  And
I'll bet
the buyer felt pretty bad.

Just be glad you don't own a 'Blad or RB.  Midwest has a really nice RB
ProSD with
w/l finder, 127 C lens, and a 220 back for, iirc, $350 or $399.  The stuff
moves slow
these days.  Eventually the best film cameras will all drop in price.

Git while the gittin's good.

Collin
KC8TKA
(Dayton is next week!)



Re: Happy birthday Mark Roberts! :-)

2006-05-15 Thread frank theriault

On 5/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 14/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

One year ago today I was having a birthday party in Oxford at Cotty 
Alma's house. With Hobgoblin ale!

Holy Holyhead! Was that a *year* ago??

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare5.html

Happy Birthday Mark ;-)


Dare I ask how two guys that look like that ever ended up with two
beautiful women like that?

Maybe I'd rather not know...  G

Anyway, Happy Birthday, Mark!!

Many happy returns, etc.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Cleaning Out the Card Bay - istDS

2006-05-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Sage advice from a man who puts gravy on everything ... or so it's been
reported here.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Norman Baugher 

 I would suggest a mild soap and hot water...


  From: Shel Belinkoff 

  Any suggestions for cleaning out the card bay in the DS?  




Re: Happy birthday Mark Roberts! :-)

2006-05-15 Thread frank theriault

On 5/15/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark,

snip

BTW - is there any chance to send private e-mail to you? My mails are
bounced back as spam :-(



Absolutely not.

Mark does not accept private e-mails.

HTH,
frank


--
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Re: K10D

2006-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On May 13, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote:


 But I will probably want to buy the camera anyway.


It's good to hear you're so excited about it.

G



Re: flash and shadows

2006-05-15 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille

Subject: flash and shadows



I'm a really true newbie concerning flash photography.
I can use flash but it is often very ugly lol.

I need to take pictures of my gear for a quick little website for my 
studies.

I took a couple with a lens placed on a white drawing A3 paper.
Results are OK for a cheap hack but shadows from the integrated flash
are problematic.
I also own an Metz 40MZ2 but TTL is often unreliable with my D.

Equipment used:
* ist-D
* SMCP 100/3.5 macro

Any cheap advice/trick?


Set yourself up beside a window and use available light.

William Robb 





Re: Zone Alarm

2006-05-15 Thread graywolf

Interesting, my firewalls report no outside activity at all.

I wonder if Zone Alarm is like Xsoftspy. I have been running it for 
awhile and it consistantly finds a few spyware programs missed by 
AdAware and SpyBot. Only when I installed it on my new laptop I noticed 
that it found exactly the same spyware on the laptop that it had on the 
desktop. Humm...? I thought about that for awhile and came to the 
obvious conclusion, that the spyware it finds are installed by Xsoftspy 
to make it look good. About every three database upgrade downloads it 
finds another spyware program that none of the antispyware programs 
noticed. I think the main difference is Xsoftspy is a program you have 
to pay for while the others are freeware. Freeware has no reason to make 
you shell out for an upgrade while Xsoftspy is always telling me that 
there is a new version that I should download and, of course, pay for.


Of course I do not live in the big city... But even when I did, I think 
I have only been invaded by a total of maybe 20 viruses in my 40+ years 
of computing --not counting stuff downloaded from the net, virus checked 
positive, and deleted. And only three of them have gotten past my 
anti-virus measures, if they really were undetectable viruses rather 
than just windows famous instability. Those three did cause a lot of 
hassles however, requiring a complete systems wipe to get rid of.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Somewhat less than 48 hours ago I installed the 
free version of Zone Alarm.

As of a few minutes ago more than 3400 intrusions and access attempts have
been blocked by the program.  That's mind boggling!

My thanks to all who recommended the program.


Shel


I bought the program from my local Staples store last January and found the 
same thing.
While on dial 
up i would get constant opoups re intrusions. Having moved to always on DSL, i don't get
the pop ups, 
so i quess its working more in the background for some reason.


Dave









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