Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat
Nice! This was taken as the egrets flew off. I had to crop it a fair bit as I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: discouraging PESO's
Bob Sullivan wrote: Bruce, Peter, Jack, Mark, ... You guys have got to stop it! I promise I'll post some more, so as to lower the standard a bit ;-/ The batches of PESO's the last several days has been very troubling. Every time I get close to producing PESO quality images, you guys move the bar higher. They are really stunning images, but discouraging! Yep. There have been a number of great shots here lately... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Bruce, This is definitely one of the best egret shots I've seen in a while. Amazing detail in the perfect exposure as evident in the birds legs and feet. The bokeh is very pleasing also. Makes me want to use my Tokina even more now. Were you using a tripod for this shot? JayT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Aliens
On 17/7/06, Powull Harkrave, discombobulated, unleashed: These are obviously a sub species of Dalags from Dr. WHO. Dalags ?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Anything Henri can do...
Hi, today's Magnum essay on Slate is about Rome. One of the photos is by Henri Cartier-Bresson: http://todayspictures.slate.com/20060718/14.html I have a somewhat similar photo, taken in Cortona, Tuscany in 1980: http://www.web-options.com/Cortona.jpg Perhaps they teach the walk in the seminary. I've never quite known whether my photo is any good or not, so I've never cleaned the negative - apologies for the state of it. Perhaps I'll clean and rescan it now that I've seen Hank's. Regards, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Aliens
It's where Dr. Who keeps the Daleks prisoner. Dalag Luft VII, etc... -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 18 July 2006 08:07 To: pentax list Subject: Re: PESO - Aliens On 17/7/06, Powull Harkrave, discombobulated, unleashed: These are obviously a sub species of Dalags from Dr. WHO. Dalags ?? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Aliens
An alien species related to the Daleks who's evolution lags behind that of their more sophisticated cousins. ;-) Dave At 03:06 PM 18/07/2006, Cotty wrote: On 17/7/06, Powull Harkrave, discombobulated, unleashed: These are obviously a sub species of Dalags from Dr. WHO. Dalags ?? -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Aliens
On 18/7/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: An alien species related to the Daleks who's evolution lags behind that of their more sophisticated cousins. You're talking a load of dalags man! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Aliens
That's nothing new. Dave At 04:33 PM 18/07/2006, Cotty wrote: On 18/7/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: An alien species related to the Daleks who's evolution lags behind that of their more sophisticated cousins. You're talking a load of dalags man! -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sad but true...
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: The MZ-S should sell. But don't compare with KEH; they have time in their hands, which you don't. I don't? How do you come to that conclusion??? The ebay auction time is finite, that's what I meant. KEH can ask a high price and wait for the right buyer. Sure, you can relist, but I am not sure it's the same. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Of all the photos of egrets I've seen today, that's one of them. Excellent shot Bruce. Dave On 7/18/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: PESO: Ballet
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have any of you guys ever thought of collaborating Even wittier than usual, Tom. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/15 Sat PM 08:33:14 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair. As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in the FA 28-70 lens. Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today. Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it. Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing. The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-( Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide. Don Is it a permanent fix? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair.
Other than giving a one year warranty, I couldn't get an answer from them as to whether the compound element that fails has been changed in any way. Many of these took several years to fail, so only time would tell. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair. From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/15 Sat PM 08:33:14 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: Reply from Pentax on FA28-70/4 repair. As most of you will recall I've been trying to get an answer from Pentax as to whether they can fix the fogged/cracked element in the FA 28-70 lens. Sent it to Colorado last week, got a snail-mail reply today. Well, the good news is that they _can_ fix it. Sounds like they'll pretty much rebuild the whole thing. The bad news is that it will run $87.00. ;-( Not sure it's really worth it. I'll have to decide. Don Is it a permanent fix? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch II
At 300K, you should be able to get far larger dimensions than what you've posted. Resolution above 72 dpi accomplishes nothing on the web. Size it for a substantial dimension, like 12 inches on the long side, at 72 dpi. Paul On Jul 17, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Jack Davis wrote: This is a moderately larger upload. I'm limited to 300K and if I pump it any further, pixels become a factor. I took this from my site as I have no back-up scan at this point. I see a restrained sharpening. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=135 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the composition. It appears to be very sharp and detailed, although it's hard to tell with such a small image. Pump it up! Paul On Jul 17, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=133 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Excitement in Cottyland
Cotty wrote: On 13/7/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/5177868.stm I've been up there all evening, got in at 10pm for bangers and mash :-) And on overtime all day! Trebles all round!! Oh my! Now THAT can't hurt your feelings! ;-) keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
Shel wrote: Well, Frank, apparently, according to some people, if the intent or meaning isn't spelled out for them, it is a bad thing. If I was to answer this your way, Shel, I would also begin with Well, Frank, But I have no shame of discussing photography with people I do not agree with, or whose lines of thought I do not understand. With regards to having intent or meaning spelled out, there are photos in this world that can stand alone without any words accompanying them, and still convey meaning and intent across cultural, ethnic, political, or any other psychological barrier. You have, on occasion, shown good examples of that yourself. The shot in question is not among them. What it may mean to people with anglo-american background escapes me, I'm sorry. I'm genuinely surprised that a man of your abilities needs a definition of context spelled out for him. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS soon... help about prices needed.
I will finaly sell a bunch of lenses/camera/flashes I do not use enough since I got my ist-D but really I dunno about prices, the market being what it is (and I have no time monitoring prices all day long). Cameras: * SuperA (works pretty well, but not black paint going away in the corners) * MotorA+battery pack A in very good state (including remote cover) * Ricoh KR10X (plastic body but works really well) * SFXn (missing eyepiece, but all other covers in place) * Z1 (not p, very good state, not much used... nowhere near 5000 thousand exposures) Flashes: * AF240FT (has a built-in 5P connector) * Metz 40MZ2 + SCA372 +SCA 3702 (will cover everthing both analog TTL and digital TTL with these 2 adapters) Lenses: * Chinon 300/5.6 (not very good but hey a 300mm is still a 300mm) * SMC Pentax-F 35-70/3.5-4.5 * SMC Pentax-A 35-70/4 * Tamron 28/2.5 (adaptall2) * Tamron 135/2.5 (old design with aperture manual/auto switch) -- -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: FS soon... help about prices needed.
Looking at eekBay completed items and KEH are good sources for pricing items. My only suggestion would be to take another look at the F and A 35-70s. Both of them, particularly the A, are very good lenses. Mine are very much on my keepers list. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 6:03 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: FS soon... help about prices needed. I will finaly sell a bunch of lenses/camera/flashes I do not use enough since I got my ist-D but really I dunno about prices, the market being what it is (and I have no time monitoring prices all day long). Cameras: * SuperA (works pretty well, but not black paint going away in the corners) * MotorA+battery pack A in very good state (including remote cover) * Ricoh KR10X (plastic body but works really well) * SFXn (missing eyepiece, but all other covers in place) * Z1 (not p, very good state, not much used... nowhere near 5000 thousand exposures) Flashes: * AF240FT (has a built-in 5P connector) * Metz 40MZ2 + SCA372 +SCA 3702 (will cover everthing both analog TTL and digital TTL with these 2 adapters) Lenses: * Chinon 300/5.6 (not very good but hey a 300mm is still a 300mm) * SMC Pentax-F 35-70/3.5-4.5 * SMC Pentax-A 35-70/4 * Tamron 28/2.5 (adaptall2) * Tamron 135/2.5 (old design with aperture manual/auto switch) -- -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: discouraging PESO's
They are really stunning images, but discouraging! Regards, Bob S. Your discouraged.Have you seen mine lately Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
2006/7/18, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at eekBay completed items and KEH are good sources for pricing items. Thanks for the ideas. My only suggestion would be to take another look at the F and A 35-70s. Both of them, particularly the A, are very good lenses. Mine are very much on my keepers list. Well, the F-35-70 is an odd focal length on digital and I'm not keeping any 35mm AF bodies. The A is to be sold because I know it is good so should get a couple dollars. I don't use it that often although I know it is a good lens. If really necessary I'll sold my 30/2.8 but it is such a nice jewel I don't want to part with it ;) Don -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
21mm limitted is a jewel ...
Just got this one in today. All I can say it is a real limitted, same style, same look and feel, and comes with the same type of leather pouch. It is much less of a 'pancake' than the 40mm is, actually resembles the 43 limitted more. Hood and cap are perfect too, the hood uses some kind of smart bayonet mount :-) Some images taken of the 21mm on the *istD: http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/pentax.php Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: At least I believe that is what it is. Got several pretty good shots on my walk this morning. So another couple may be coming through. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm I've been waiting a long, long time to see Bruce Dayton turn out a bad photo. I guess I'm going to have to keep waiting. :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 MARK! (and agree) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: discouraging PESO's
I'm in fast company. Thanks, Toralf! Jack --- Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Bruce, Peter, Jack, Mark, ... You guys have got to stop it! I promise I'll post some more, so as to lower the standard a bit ;-/ The batches of PESO's the last several days has been very troubling. Every time I get close to producing PESO quality images, you guys move the bar higher. They are really stunning images, but discouraging! Yep. There have been a number of great shots here lately... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/demo.html Pentax MX, Tri-X @ 250 in ID-11 Comments, crits, rotten tomatoes welcome Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net I like it a lot - partly because of the ambiguities, partly because of the structure of the shot. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Sierra Ranch III
@ 72 dpi: (It's too early) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch II
At 72 dpi: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID-136 Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 300K, you should be able to get far larger dimensions than what you've posted. Resolution above 72 dpi accomplishes nothing on the web. Size it for a substantial dimension, like 12 inches on the long side, at 72 dpi. Paul On Jul 17, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Jack Davis wrote: This is a moderately larger upload. I'm limited to 300K and if I pump it any further, pixels become a factor. I took this from my site as I have no back-up scan at this point. I see a restrained sharpening. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=135 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the composition. It appears to be very sharp and detailed, although it's hard to tell with such a small image. Pump it up! Paul On Jul 17, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=133 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
In a message dated 7/18/2006 5:53:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it a lot - partly because of the ambiguities, partly because of the structure of the shot. ann === What she said. The meaning can remain a mystery. Although to me it says he does not agree. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Hasty Retreat
In a message dated 7/17/2006 1:36:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was taken as the egrets flew off. I had to crop it a fair bit as I didn't have enough reach with the 400mm. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld, manual focus ISO 200, 1/1500 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3187a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce Nice. Not as good as the other, of course. To me a bird in flight is often not as interesting, because usually it's hard to see the bird. But this is nice and sharp and good for what it is. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:56, Thibouille wrote: 2006/7/18, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at eekBay completed items and KEH are good sources for pricing items. Thanks for the ideas. My only suggestion would be to take another look at the F and A 35-70s. Both of them, particularly the A, are very good lenses. Mine are very much on my keepers list. Well, the F-35-70 is an odd focal length on digital and I'm not keeping any 35mm AF bodies. The A is to be sold because I know it is good so should get a couple dollars. I don't use it that often although I know it is a good lens. I got my A 35-70 from Godfrey for about $35 a year ago. You're probably hoping for more than that though, right? A nice piece of glass (and pretty good in macro mode!) but I haven't used it a bit since getting my 28-75 Tamron. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Just hanging around
In a message dated 7/17/2006 5:27:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Just a quick capture of a tired out buddy. Comments - yea/nay/otherwise. Kenneth Waller Huh. Interesting to see one relaxing instead of scampering quickly about. I had mixed reactions first viewing it. Like wanting to see his nose. But I really like how you can see how his body and the tree trunk really blend together -- nature's camouflage. And it's neat to see one relaxing, he sort of looks like a human at day at the beach laying in the sun. My final reaction is it's a great shot. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Odd little PESO: Fireplug
In a message dated 7/17/2006 3:46:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Shot a couple of years ago and recently re-discovered whilst backing up my archives. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia Nice and sharp and nice colors, and it doesn't do a thing for me. Note that most of your photos do; I usually love them. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Charles Robinson wrote: I got my A 35-70 from Godfrey for about $35 a year ago. You're probably hoping for more than that though, right? Which of the two, Charles, the 3.5-4.5 or the constant-4? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: discouraging PESO's
In a message dated 7/17/2006 7:10:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce, Peter, Jack, Mark, ... You guys have got to stop it! The batches of PESO's the last several days has been very troubling. Every time I get close to producing PESO quality images, you guys move the bar higher. They are really stunning images, but discouraging! Regards, Bob S. I figure the purpose for some of us is to lower that bar back down -- to a more reachable height. At least that's often what I tell myself when I post a PESO. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
In a message dated 7/18/2006 6:06:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 Jack It's a very nice image, but it looks too green to me. I know the grass is green and the wood is green-colored, so maybe it's not too green (i.e. in reality it was green). Maybe it just needs more color contrast for me, personally, for it to be a tad more interesting. But it's a nice image. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Conversions
Thanks Mark, Shel, Paul. Paul i use the Channel Mixer to, but i seem to be able to get the general conversion ok, but its that fine tweak, that still gives me problems. Same as when i printed at home, pic's are grey and white, not black and white. Shel, you may not read this as your TTFN, but, i agree, my stuff stinks, but i think i do know what it SHOULD look like, i just can't seem to get the worklflow to the point of MAKING IT look like that.(sorry for the shout:-)) I seem to be able to get decent results in the school darkroom, just can seem to get past curves and layers yet. I know a ton of practise and playing is required, i just give up to quickly.:-) My edit programs are 99% PS, was ver 6 now CS. Thansk again. Oh, i found the link in a past pdml email about a curves tutorial, from Collin i think, and have it BM and printed out. Dave Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Dave ... Perhaps you might start by telling us what conversion processes you've been using. There are numerous methods and techniques available. Also (and please take this in the spirit it's intended) your BW work generally is pretty poor. I don't tink you really know what good BW is supposed to look like. There are numerous styles that have been used over the years, ytet your work has always seemed lacking in shadow detail, contrast, and tonality. Can you get to some galleries or museums and spend some time looking at good, exhibition quality, BW silver prints. Maybe see a style that's similar to what you want yopur prints to look like, and then work towards that objective. In addition, it may be helpful to know what editing program you're using. I seem to reacll that you're using more than one, and maybe it would help if you chose one and stayed with it, learning it well and mastering the features you need to get the results you want. There's a program that I've used that helps with BW conversions that's really good - best I've found on the 'net. Go to http://www.theimagingfactory.com/ and download Convert to BW Pro and see how you like it. TTFN, TTYL, YMMV, Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Converting to BW. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. Just wondering were i should be spending my time. In the colour stage adjusting the file or in the converted stage. Getting good contrast seems to be my biggest problem. IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good BW. Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to. Any suggestions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
Of course KEH is not a very good source for European pricing. They do tend to be on the high end of fair for the US. Ebay works if there are several completed items listed; if there are just one or two it is hard to tell as they may have sold very high, or very low. Many of the old ways of determining prices, such as the magazines, are no longer viable in this day and age of online auctions. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Thibouille wrote: 2006/7/18, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at eekBay completed items and KEH are good sources for pricing items. Thanks for the ideas. My only suggestion would be to take another look at the F and A 35-70s. Both of them, particularly the A, are very good lenses. Mine are very much on my keepers list. Well, the F-35-70 is an odd focal length on digital and I'm not keeping any 35mm AF bodies. The A is to be sold because I know it is good so should get a couple dollars. I don't use it that often although I know it is a good lens. If really necessary I'll sold my 30/2.8 but it is such a nice jewel I don't want to part with it ;) Don -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...
H, Congratulations. Pentax called me today, it has arrived. I ´ll get it tomorrow. Now I´m really looking forward to it .-) DagT Den 18. jul. 2006 kl. 14.24 skrev Jan van Wijk: Just got this one in today. All I can say it is a real limitted, same style, same look and feel, and comes with the same type of leather pouch. It is much less of a 'pancake' than the 40mm is, actually resembles the 43 limitted more. Hood and cap are perfect too, the hood uses some kind of smart bayonet mount :-) Some images taken of the 21mm on the *istD: http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/pentax.php Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Threatening Syies, Calm Seas
In a message dated 7/17/2006 6:06:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was backing up my pentax files, (and God what a lot of awful tripe I've produced). However every once in a while I come across good one. This was taken last year with my *ist-D http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_tscs.html Tech. Info.: Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/125sec (Av) smc Pentax-F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 @ f13.0 (70mm) As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Nice, Peter. I like it. Excellent composition. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
Op Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:03:23 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some stabs: * Ricoh KR10X (plastic body but works really well) Uneducated guess: Zilch? * SFXn (missing eyepiece, but all other covers in place) €10,- to €30,-. If you put it on ebay, I'd offer it with the F35-70... * Z1 (not p, very good state, not much used... nowhere near 5000 thousand exposures) €75,- to €150,- Flashes: * AF240FT (has a built-in 5P connector) * Metz 40MZ2 + SCA372 +SCA 3702 (will cover everthing both analog TTL and digital TTL with these 2 adapters) Lenses: * Chinon 300/5.6 (not very good but hey a 300mm is still a 300mm) * SMC Pentax-F 35-70/3.5-4.5 * SMC Pentax-A 35-70/4 * Tamron 28/2.5 (adaptall2) * Tamron 135/2.5 (old design with aperture manual/auto switch) I still use SplosDb for lenses and 'stuff'. It's generally still usefull as a (low-end) indication... Now how much would you want for that A 35-70/4, shipped to the Netherlands? -- Regards, Lucas (who needs another lens like a fish needs a bicycle) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Sunset in a hurry
In a message dated 7/17/2006 5:11:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: took this about a year ago, and never gave it another thought. Just another JPG snapshot. http://static.flickr.com/54/192158638_7131bc8886_o.jpg Saw it last night on the husband's computer screen (he is using it as wallpaper); thought I would post it here. Looked rather nicer on his 21 screen than on my little laptop. Resized but otherwise unadjusted. = I could tell this was taken from a car, and I can see other car headlights in the distance. The reflection creates some interesting abstractions. But, for me, it remains a snapshot. It might look nice as a screen saver (re larger monitor), but it's really too blurry for it to be engaging as a print or stand alone photo. My honest reaction, sorry. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Wild Oats
In a message dated 7/17/2006 12:29:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very graphic image. The only thing I would say is that the sky needs 'dusting' ;-) I rather like it. -- Cheers, Cotty === Ditto. Although the front of the barn was in shadow and that is okay, I think it could be improved a bit with the shadow/highlights selection in PS. Lighten the shadows just a tad to add a tad more detail in the shadow. Not a lot, just a little. It's got sort of gritty uncompromising country flavor. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More Fungus!
Well done. I like the first one, fungus and twig. Dave, stepping out for a steak, Brooks Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After yesterday's discovery of that old fungus shot, I decided to revamp my fungus photo gallery. (And yes, I am a sad git to actually have a gallery of fungus photos, aren't I? g) http://www.robertstech.com/fungus.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: funny K10D story
Yes, I believe in cropping. In fact I usually shoot with the intent of cropping as part of the processing. One of the many reason mini-lab prints never quite did it for me (short of using a pair of scissors, grin). With event photography one has to shoot tightly because develop and print is the only way to make a profit at the low prices you get paid. I will always remember the Speed Graphic ad from back in the 50's that was titled One Good Negative, Seven Great Photos in which they showed seven crops from the negative that were entirely different pictures from each other. SO! If the crop is planned from the start it is no different than a full frame shot except that one has the choice of formats other than the one native to the camera. I agree with Jens on this one. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jens Bladt wrote: Well, there is IMO. I can't always know exactly how I want to use the image. I often see posibilities in an image AFTER it's has been taken. A smile my turn out differently, the angle of the eyes. A shoulder that is to domitating, which I did't notice because I was concentratiog on the eyes or the right smile - must be cropped away. I often decide what the main attraction is later, then I crop it accordingly to emphasize this certain quality. Photographers have always done this. Cropping. Look at all the shaot done of Marily Monroe - a website somewhere shows both the original iamge as well as the cropped, final image. SO, I'm certainly not the only one who work this way. That's probably the reason why cropping frequently is a subject for discussion at the PDML ;-) A second frame in the viewfinde could be quite usefull - especally if there's enough MP's to work with. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2006 15:48 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: funny K10D story There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One certainly has enough time to think about it. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: funny K10D story WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead! For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution. Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less post processing. We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
No excuse, but I, too, felt it was somewhat too green and confirmed it by com parring it to the site image. Since I was into up-sizing the image, went with that goal rather than color correction. My excuse, abject laziness. Since there have been multiple uploads for this thing, will probably not do it again, but completely agree with you. Thanks for comments. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/18/2006 6:06:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 Jack It's a very nice image, but it looks too green to me. I know the grass is green and the wood is green-colored, so maybe it's not too green (i.e. in reality it was green). Maybe it just needs more color contrast for me, personally, for it to be a tad more interesting. But it's a nice image. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: new arrival
In a message dated 7/17/2006 7:44:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My new roomie http://users.rcn.com/annsan/ashley1bw.jpg ann = Cute. Someone told me the other day I could foster a dog for a sort of animal rescue place. Not a long term commitment and that way I'd find out if I really like having a dog. I have no fence for the patio, but I could foster a small dog for a week and it might be enlightening. So I am thinking about it. They foster cats too, but I already know cats and I do not get along. :-) How come the pic is so grainy, ann? Low light? Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Wild Oats
I, too, feel uncompromising when I consider lightening the barn. I've sensed my reaction to it's density fluctuation a number of times and this is where I'm most comfortable. Knowing other reactions is my whole point of putting these up and I'm grateful for all ideas and comments. I'll be pleased to see your treatment if you'd like. :)) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/17/2006 12:29:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very graphic image. The only thing I would say is that the sky needs 'dusting' ;-) I rather like it. -- Cheers, Cotty === Ditto. Although the front of the barn was in shadow and that is okay, I think it could be improved a bit with the shadow/highlights selection in PS. Lighten the shadows just a tad to add a tad more detail in the shadow. Not a lot, just a little. It's got sort of gritty uncompromising country flavor. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
On Jul 18, 2006, at 8:41, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Charles Robinson wrote: I got my A 35-70 from Godfrey for about $35 a year ago. You're probably hoping for more than that though, right? Which of the two, Charles, the 3.5-4.5 or the constant-4? Constant 4 Wasn't the 3.5 - 4.5 an FA? -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO don't eat like a pig!
In a message dated 7/16/2006 2:05:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... 'cause you are a bird! (who cares that you can't fly?!) http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/CentralCoastCA/IMGP3490sm.jpg (ostriches) === LOL. Technically, probably better if the front bird was not so OOF, but it's one fun photo. I like it. Hehehehehe. Lightened my day, thanks. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Wild Oats
In a message dated 7/18/2006 7:42:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I, too, feel uncompromising when I consider lightening the barn. I've sensed my reaction to it's density fluctuation a number of times and this is where I'm most comfortable. Knowing other reactions is my whole point of putting these up and I'm grateful for all ideas and comments. I'll be pleased to see your treatment if you'd like. :)) Jack === Okay, I may try, I have some time today. I doubt I'd improve it, though. I liked Bob's comment about dustbowl. He's right, made me think of that. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Bruce Dayton wrote: Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3179a.htm That's one fine egret! Excellent work. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Sunset in a hurry
On 7/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/17/2006 5:11:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: took this about a year ago, and never gave it another thought. Just another JPG snapshot. http://static.flickr.com/54/192158638_7131bc8886_o.jpg = I could tell this was taken from a car, and I can see other car headlights in the distance. The reflection creates some interesting abstractions. But, for me, it remains a snapshot. It might look nice as a screen saver (re larger monitor), but it's really too blurry for it to be engaging as a print or stand alone photo. My honest reaction, sorry. Marnie aka Doe Thank you for feeling sorry, but there's no need to be, and of course I appreciate the honesty. I think at the time I was awestruck with the colours and wanted to capture it. I was glad to be able to use the extra real estate of the car window's reflection for more red. (I also have a continuing fascination with capturing reflections.) I went to ISO 1600 to quell blur, but I think it was wasted effort, as we were going at a little over the highway speed limit. Hard to say. Since I rested the camera on my hand and the hand on the vibrating car, it could also be that I made the blur myself. My first reaction on seeing it on the big screen was to ask my husband which filter in photoshop elements he had run it through, because the scene didn't look real. --s -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
No, there is both an F and a A version of the 3.5-4.5 but no FA version (unfortunately). 2006/7/18, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jul 18, 2006, at 8:41, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Charles Robinson wrote: I got my A 35-70 from Godfrey for about $35 a year ago. You're probably hoping for more than that though, right? Which of the two, Charles, the 3.5-4.5 or the constant-4? Constant 4 Wasn't the 3.5 - 4.5 an FA? -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Threatening Syies, Calm Seas
P.J. wrote: http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_tscs.html Tech. Info.: Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/125sec (Av) smc Pentax-F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 @ f13.0 (70mm) Very nice indeed. I like the colors, tones, and geometries all. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Sunset in a hurry
On Jul 18, 2006, at 8:01 AM, skye wrote: http://static.flickr.com/54/192158638_7131bc8886_o.jpg It has its charm as a sunset-abstract. I usually get bored at sunset photos, but the structure of the car in this one attracts my interest: it offers a different take on the subject. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
either of these two works just fine. I tend to like the wider format in this particular instance just a little more. Godfrey On Jul 18, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
A version: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/medium/A35-70f3.5-4.5.html F version: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/medium/F35-70f3.5-4.5.html FA version: Sorry no FA version... Charles Robinson wrote: On Jul 18, 2006, at 8:41, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Charles Robinson wrote: I got my A 35-70 from Godfrey for about $35 a year ago. You're probably hoping for more than that though, right? Which of the two, Charles, the 3.5-4.5 or the constant-4? Constant 4 Wasn't the 3.5 - 4.5 an FA? -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
On Jul 18, 2006, at 7:37 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: I got my A 35-70 from Godfrey for about $35 a year ago. You're probably hoping for more than that though, right? Which of the two, Charles, the 3.5-4.5 or the constant-4? Constant f/4 Wasn't the 3.5 - 4.5 an FA? They made the f/3.5-4.5 model in A and F mount, I think they were the same optically or very similar. At one point I had all three, still have the F35-70/3.5-4.5 Macro. But I haven't used it in a very long time so I might put it up for sale. It's a good performer overall, but doesn't return much on the market from what I've seen ... I bought this one from KEH in EXC shape for $39. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Threatening Syies, Calm Seas
PJ, Very nice. I like the way the layers in the image lead your eye from the fore to mid and background. Each of these zones is interesting and makes for a pleasing composition. JayT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: funny K10D story
It's not that Jens is wrong, it's that he blames his camera for the fact that he spends a lot of time on post-production. His problem is simply his style of shooting. -Aaron -Original Message- From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: funny K10D story Date: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:20 am Size: 3K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Yes, I believe in cropping. In fact I usually shoot with the intent of cropping as part of the processing. One of the many reason mini-lab prints never quite did it for me (short of using a pair of scissors, grin). With event photography one has to shoot tightly because develop and print is the only way to make a profit at the low prices you get paid. I will always remember the Speed Graphic ad from back in the 50's that was titled One Good Negative, Seven Great Photos in which they showed seven crops from the negative that were entirely different pictures from each other. SO! If the crop is planned from the start it is no different than a full frame shot except that one has the choice of formats other than the one native to the camera. I agree with Jens on this one. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jens Bladt wrote: Well, there is IMO. I can't always know exactly how I want to use the image. I often see posibilities in an image AFTER it's has been taken. A smile my turn out differently, the angle of the eyes. A shoulder that is to domitating, which I did't notice because I was concentratiog on the eyes or the right smile - must be cropped away. I often decide what the main attraction is later, then I crop it accordingly to emphasize this certain quality. Photographers have always done this. Cropping. Look at all the shaot done of Marily Monroe - a website somewhere shows both the original iamge as well as the cropped, final image. SO, I'm certainly not the only one who work this way. That's probably the reason why cropping frequently is a subject for discussion at the PDML ;-) A second frame in the viewfinde could be quite usefull - especally if there's enough MP's to work with. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. juli 2006 15:48 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: funny K10D story There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One certainly has enough time to think about it. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: funny K10D story WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead! For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution. Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less post processing. We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 07/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...
On Jul 18, 2006, at 5:24 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: ...It is much less of a 'pancake' than the 40mm is, actually resembles the 43 limitted more. ... http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/pentax.php I saw one at the local dealer yesterday. It's much more appealing to me than the 40mm pancake. It has piqued my interest, although I really really would prefer a compact, light DA28/2 Ltd instead. I almost bought an FA28/2.8 but just can't bring myself to spend the money for a 28mm that's only one stop faster than the FA20-35. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
I too would go with the wide version. Nice shot. I like the heavily saturated look. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] either of these two works just fine. I tend to like the wider format in this particular instance just a little more. Godfrey On Jul 18, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS soon... help about prices needed.
I agree, it's actually a fairly nice little lens, though it does extend a long way when at it's shortest focal length. I got mine on e-bay for about $45.00, to fill the gap left in my zoom lenses when the FA 28-70 developed it's cataract. It actually seems to have a better build than the FA, though I've never had the F lens apart, and I've partially disassembled the FA to clean out some beach sand that got into the mechanism. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jul 18, 2006, at 7:37 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: I got my A 35-70 from Godfrey for about $35 a year ago. You're probably hoping for more than that though, right? Which of the two, Charles, the 3.5-4.5 or the constant-4? Constant f/4 Wasn't the 3.5 - 4.5 an FA? They made the f/3.5-4.5 model in A and F mount, I think they were the same optically or very similar. At one point I had all three, still have the F35-70/3.5-4.5 Macro. But I haven't used it in a very long time so I might put it up for sale. It's a good performer overall, but doesn't return much on the market from what I've seen ... I bought this one from KEH in EXC shape for $39. Godfrey -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Demo
With regards to having intent or meaning spelled out, there are photos in this world that can stand alone without any words accompanying them, and still convey meaning and intent across cultural, ethnic, political, or any other psychological barrier. You have, on occasion, shown good examples of that yourself. The shot in question is not among them. What it may mean to people with anglo-american background escapes me, I'm sorry. Well stated, I agree 100% Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Demo Shel wrote: Well, Frank, apparently, according to some people, if the intent or meaning isn't spelled out for them, it is a bad thing. If I was to answer this your way, Shel, I would also begin with Well, Frank, But I have no shame of discussing photography with people I do not agree with, or whose lines of thought I do not understand. With regards to having intent or meaning spelled out, there are photos in this world that can stand alone without any words accompanying them, and still convey meaning and intent across cultural, ethnic, political, or any other psychological barrier. You have, on occasion, shown good examples of that yourself. The shot in question is not among them. What it may mean to people with anglo-american background escapes me, I'm sorry. I'm genuinely surprised that a man of your abilities needs a definition of context spelled out for him. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: two more
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/6177055 and http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1542700 Comments and suggestions are, as always, most welcome. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Horse Tail Sky
Jack, great capture. I prefer the wider shot by a small margin. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Horse Tail Sky Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Blue Heron
At least I think it is. This was taken on the same walk yesterday as the egrets. The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I believe, reflections from trees and foliage. I shot from a small hill above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the background is a reflection. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
SV: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...
... h. I thought I had all the Limited's (31-43-77). Now there's one more to buy. Must be grat for panoramas ;-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jan van Wijk Sendt: 18. juli 2006 14:25 Til: Pentax discussion forum Emne: 21mm limitted is a jewel ... Just got this one in today. All I can say it is a real limitted, same style, same look and feel, and comes with the same type of leather pouch. It is much less of a 'pancake' than the 40mm is, actually resembles the 43 limitted more. Hood and cap are perfect too, the hood uses some kind of smart bayonet mount :-) Some images taken of the 21mm on the *istD: http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/pentax.php Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 07/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 07/17/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
Thanks, Jay. This was shot handheld. Yeah, that Tokina is a fine lens. A few years ago, I had a Pentax A 400/5.6 lens. I have found the Tokina to be a pretty similar performer (closer focusing, by far) in a much more compact and usable package. It is a keeper for sure. -- Bruce Monday, July 17, 2006, 11:59:46 PM, you wrote: JT Bruce, JT This is definitely one of the best egret shots I've seen in a while. JT Amazing detail in the perfect exposure as evident in the birds legs JT and feet. JT The bokeh is very pleasing also. Makes me want to use my Tokina even JT more now. Were you using a tripod for this shot? JT JayT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SV: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...
Some images taken of the 21mm on the *istD: http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/pentax.php Anything through instead of on ?:-) -Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Another Gallery maker
We had a discussion recently about automated gallery making and I've been on the lookout for them. I've found another that works quite well. I'm not too impressed with the appearance, but there are other templates available. One called Brushed Titanium is pretty awful so I dumped that and tried another. Here's the second test: http://www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/HOLD/WGW02/ I converted 12 TIFFs from my latest batch of pictures to JPEG and some folk will have seen a few of them already. I apologize. I tried clicking on 'enlarge' and the result is a giant picture in a new browser window. I'll have to find out how to fix this in due course. Smaller images I suppose. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Very cool sky. In this case, I like the first one - the shot is really about the sky and I think a little breathing room on the horse tail works better. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 7:55:21 AM, you wrote: JD Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually JD just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. JD Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring JD Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. JD I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little JD DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. JD The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side JD version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. JD Requesting your opinions. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Blue Heron
Bruce, Beautifully cropped and processed. Even the perch limb contributes a pleasing curve. Mottled homogeneous reflections compliment the pose. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least I think it is. This was taken on the same walk yesterday as the egrets. The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I believe, reflections from trees and foliage. I shot from a small hill above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the background is a reflection. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
It's hard for me to decide. I like both. I tend to like the strict composition of the cropped version, however... not being their myself, I suspect the uncropped version probably more accurately portrays the sweeping vista of the scene. I have to come down in favor of #1 were I forced to choose. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Horse Tail Sky Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: two more
Hello Ralf, Neither of these two are as striking as some of the previous photos you've posted. The first is a pipe - I just don't relate to it very well. The second if focusing on an access gate, rather than the plant behind it. If this were part of a series, it might be a great photo - as a standalone it just doesn't have enough going for it. As always, the technical quality is excellent. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 8:48:33 AM, you wrote: RRR http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/6177055 RRR and RRR http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1542700 RRR Comments and suggestions are, as always, most welcome. RRR Ralf RRR -- RRR Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany RRR private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de RRR manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 RRR Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Horse Tail Sky
Thanks, Ken. Seems to be unanimous. All those having commented, thus far, expressed at least a small preference for the full frame version. Opinions appreciated. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, great capture. I prefer the wider shot by a small margin. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Horse Tail Sky Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: two more
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ralf, Neither of these two are as striking as some of the previous photos you've posted. The first is a pipe - I just don't relate to it very well. Thanks for your remarks, Bruce. Well, I guess it depends more on the (French and German) text than I had thought it would. The sign below the pipeline says Quality, our strength!. The cut pipeline hints at the fact, that the plant is no longer operating. The rest simply doesn't translate. The 351 workers have been sacked and, as we say in German, they're looking down the pipe, i.e. they've been left out, empty-handed. It may be less spectacular than the night shots. Then again, it has a kind of message most of the others don't have. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Great Egret
This is very nice, Bruce. I did find myself wishing for a bit more feather detail. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Blue Heron
Bruce Dayton wrote: At least I think it is. This was taken on the same walk yesterday as the egrets. The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I believe, reflections from trees and foliage. I shot from a small hill above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the background is a reflection. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm Comments welcome. Bruce; Great pose and composition. The light may be a bit harsh for my taste, but what really stands out is the OOF branches or whatever It gives me a headache and makes me ill... :-) Not the prettiest bokeh I've seen. :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Geso's
Forgot these were up.:-) http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/index.htm Some shots from the July 1st weekend. I had this up earlier, but only 1/2 of the pictures made it for some reason. All of them i like are on now. Shot in Raw and used web gallery from Browser to make the page. I was suprised to see the page worked from the raw images. I just assumed jpg's were the order for CS web gallery maker. No conversions, as everyone wanted to see pictures asap. http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/barkerindex.htm From the wake last week. Shot as jpgs, cause i forgot to change to Raw on the camera,:-) and using web gallery again directly from the CS browser. No tweaking as everyone was impatient to see them. Purely enjoyment shots only. Hammer away if you so feel.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Bruce, I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by saying that I don't have any idea. I'm going to try a much larger upload. I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) How do I estimate the final size? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Jack Double Click to Close Window Davis wrote: The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I like the wider version better, even though the subject matter is more centered. I'd have pulled over too for that! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Blue Heron
Nicely composed, Bruce. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Lens Test: DA 21 vs. FA 20
My DA 21 F3.2 Limited arrived yesterday, so last evening I went out to test it against the FA 20 F2.8. I followed my usual protocol: Subject was a mud-brick wall, with cracks and many small rocks. Tripod. Distance for the DA 21 was about 1 meter. For the FA 20 I brought the tripod closer by a few cm. All apertures tested from wide open through F16. All photos processed the same in PS. All comparisons done at Actual Pixels. My tests are for sharpness across the field. Obviously this test doesn't allow for evaluation of bokeh. Both lenses seem well corrected for distortion. My usual caveat: I conduct these tests for myself. I post them as a public service in case anyone else finds them useful. If you don't find the test useful, you are free to ignore it. Wide open (DA 21 @ F3.2, FA 20 @ F2.8): The FA 20 is very slightly sharper across the field. Emphasis on slightly. F4: The FA 20 seems a bit sharper in the center. The lenses are about equal at the edges and in the corners. F5.6: The FA 20 seems a bit sharper in the center and in the corners. The lenses are about equal at the edges. F8: The DA 21 is just slightly better in the center and in the corners. The FA 20 seemed a bit better at the edges. F11: The DA 21 is a bit better in the center and at the edges. The FA 20 seems slightly sharper in the corners. F16: The DA 21 was slightly better across the field. The bottom line is that these two lenses are essentially equal in sharpness. The FA 20 has a slight edge from wide open through F5.6. From F8 through F16 the DA 21 has a slight edge. But you have to go to extreme enlargement to see these differences. At more moderate enlargement one would have a hard time telling these lenses apart. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
This is double click Jack. (?) Thanks, Mark for your valued opinion. I agree. Without the left side cloud streaks, there would be no question. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Double Click to Close Window Davis wrote: The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I like the wider version better, even though the subject matter is more centered. I'd have pulled over too for that! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lens Test: DA 21 vs. FA 20
I´m tired of all of this talk about sharpness. What about vignetting and distortion. The latter is the reason why i´m not very happy with my A20mm. DagT Den 18. jul. 2006 kl. 18.49 skrev Joseph Tainter: My DA 21 F3.2 Limited arrived yesterday, so last evening I went out to test it against the FA 20 F2.8. I followed my usual protocol: Subject was a mud-brick wall, with cracks and many small rocks. Tripod. Distance for the DA 21 was about 1 meter. For the FA 20 I brought the tripod closer by a few cm. All apertures tested from wide open through F16. All photos processed the same in PS. All comparisons done at Actual Pixels. My tests are for sharpness across the field. Obviously this test doesn't allow for evaluation of bokeh. Both lenses seem well corrected for distortion. My usual caveat: I conduct these tests for myself. I post them as a public service in case anyone else finds them useful. If you don't find the test useful, you are free to ignore it. Wide open (DA 21 @ F3.2, FA 20 @ F2.8): The FA 20 is very slightly sharper across the field. Emphasis on slightly. F4: The FA 20 seems a bit sharper in the center. The lenses are about equal at the edges and in the corners. F5.6: The FA 20 seems a bit sharper in the center and in the corners. The lenses are about equal at the edges. F8: The DA 21 is just slightly better in the center and in the corners. The FA 20 seemed a bit better at the edges. F11: The DA 21 is a bit better in the center and at the edges. The FA 20 seems slightly sharper in the corners. F16: The DA 21 was slightly better across the field. The bottom line is that these two lenses are essentially equal in sharpness. The FA 20 has a slight edge from wide open through F5.6. From F8 through F16 the DA 21 has a slight edge. But you have to go to extreme enlargement to see these differences. At more moderate enlargement one would have a hard time telling these lenses apart. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
I first printed and displayed it full frame. Couldn't stop dwelling on it and finally took it off the wall and put up the cropped version. Slept better... for awhile. Love a benign photo concern. Thanks, Tom. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard for me to decide. I like both. I tend to like the strict composition of the cropped version, however... not being their myself, I suspect the uncropped version probably more accurately portrays the sweeping vista of the scene. I have to come down in favor of #1 were I forced to choose. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Horse Tail Sky Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Why do you have to 'try' an upload? Are you sizing the image before uploading or is there some software you use to do it all at once? To do it best you should resize your image to the dimensions you want and then after that, sharpen to taste for that size. Then save it with the amount of compression you can live with. Lastly, upload the image to your site. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 9:52:07 AM, you wrote: JD Bruce, JD I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by JD saying that I don't have any idea. JD I'm going to try a much larger upload. JD I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. JD I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. JD I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) JD How do I estimate the final size? JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SV: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...
Hi Ryan, On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:03:11 -0500, Ryan Brooks wrote: Some images taken of the 21mm on the *istD: http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/pentax.php Anything through instead of on ?:-) Nothing worth showing yet :-) I made a few of my home intteriour, and will be taking the lens on a trip tomorrow, will probably do some landscapes ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Jack Davis wrote: This is double click Jack. (?) All your web pages have Double Click to Close Window as their title! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
On a web page all that matters is pixels. ie. 600 pixels x 800 pixels. Level of compression will change the number of bytes in the image file versus the image quality. PPI, DPI, Inches do not matter. These only come into effect when you print. Powell I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) How do I estimate the final size? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anything Henri can do...
On 7/18/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, today's Magnum essay on Slate is about Rome. One of the photos is by Henri Cartier-Bresson: http://todayspictures.slate.com/20060718/14.html I have a somewhat similar photo, taken in Cortona, Tuscany in 1980: http://www.web-options.com/Cortona.jpg Perhaps they teach the walk in the seminary. I've never quite known whether my photo is any good or not, so I've never cleaned the negative - apologies for the state of it. Perhaps I'll clean and rescan it now that I've seen Hank's. They're not the same at all. Your priest is holding his ~right~ hand behind his back... g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Blue Heron
I don't think it is bokeh, I believe it is reflection background - you would probably see much more of if it were bokeh - as taken, it is very discreet like portions of reflections of tree trunks or ripples or some such. I'm guessing by you not correcting my identification, that it is a Blue Heron...if not, could you please identify? -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 9:42:04 AM, you wrote: C Bruce Dayton wrote: At least I think it is. This was taken on the same walk yesterday as the egrets. The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I believe, reflections from trees and foliage. I shot from a small hill above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the background is a reflection. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm Comments welcome. C Bruce; C Great pose and composition. The light may be a bit harsh for my taste, C but what really stands out is the OOF branches or whatever It gives C me a headache and makes me ill... :-) Not the prettiest bokeh I've C seen. :-) C -- C Christian C http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SV: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...
2 more, the 40mm DA limited and the new 21mm. And a 70mm f2.4 DA Limited will arrive this fall. You've got the full set of FA Limiteds. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: ... h. I thought I had all the Limited's (31-43-77). Now there's one more to buy. Must be grat for panoramas ;-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jan van Wijk Sendt: 18. juli 2006 14:25 Til: Pentax discussion forum Emne: 21mm limitted is a jewel ... Just got this one in today. All I can say it is a real limitted, same style, same look and feel, and comes with the same type of leather pouch. It is much less of a 'pancake' than the 40mm is, actually resembles the 43 limitted more. Hood and cap are perfect too, the hood uses some kind of smart bayonet mount :-) Some images taken of the 21mm on the *istD: http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/pentax.php Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 07/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 07/17/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Blue Heron
Bruce Dayton wrote: I don't think it is bokeh, I believe it is reflection background - you would probably see much more of if it were bokeh - as taken, it is very discreet like portions of reflections of tree trunks or ripples or some such. I'm guessing by you not correcting my identification, that it is a Blue Heron...if not, could you please identify? sorry, yes it is a Great Blue Heron :-) and the previous bird was a Great Egret as you thought. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Water Warp
Cool shot. Like the line work so to speak. Dave Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4682145 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Green River, Utah
What Bill said, less the baby part.g Lovely shoot. Dave Quoting Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...during a break in the rain: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/2646/display/6152995 This was taken about 30 minutes after my wife and I nearly got struck by lightning at Dead Horse Point. Comments welcome. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another quilt pic
Hey, just like me, all thumbs.g Nice shot Doug. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.alphoto.com/images/hands.jpg enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
