Re: Home recovering from surgery

2006-10-06 Thread David Savage
At 01:47 PM 6/10/2006, keith_w wrote:
 D Brooks wrote:
 
  We used to bandage ourselves -before- we were hurt.
 
  D
 
  Yeah, but then, you didn't think it was cool to punch holes in window
  glass
  with your bare fist...
 
  keith

Did Dave B. do that too?

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 06/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I downloaded the sample files, and am printing 10x14 inch prints from
 them.
 The picture of the sheep has some veiling flare.
 Good one Pentax
 Otherwise, the pictures look fine, I must say.

And significant CA and no actual blacks!

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Re: Stuck Filter

2006-10-06 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 06/10/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doug,

 I'm kinda suprised by a lot of the advice you been
 given so far. The old trick I've used in the past has
 always worked: thread a couple more filters onto the
 stuck filter and tighten them slightly. Then you've
 got better leverage to get the stuck one off and they
 usually all come off together.

Not likely to work too well with a pol filter :-)

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Anyone want a brain?  One owner, only lightly used...
 

You might get some offers in the Canon forum.  :)




Or you could join the collective

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 06.10.2006, at 08:34 , Cotty wrote:

 Or you could join the collective

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/montsnmags/BorgEF.jpg
Oh no! Did Canon changed you that much Cotty??? ;-)

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NorCal: SF Fleet Week

2006-10-06 Thread John Celio
Any NorCal PDMLers going to Fleet Week in San Francisco this weekend?  I'm 
going to try to get down to where we were last year to shoot the Blue Angels 
and the other air shows this Saturday between 12 and 5.  I can't guarantee 
I'll be there, since I told my brother I'd help him with something, but I'm 
hoping we'll be able to get that done early in the day.

If you go, just look for a crazed photographer with a giant 500mm lens 
shouting insults at passers-by carrying Canons. ;)

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Re: Pretty Cheap SD

2006-10-06 Thread John Francis

That matches what I've seen reported; you should get at least a
133x card, and you might see a very small improvement with 150x.

On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 11:15:59PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 It might be able to take advantage of cards of 150X.
 Paul
 On Oct 5, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 
  Beware: 60X is too slow for the K10D. You'll lose write speed and
  won't be able to take full advantage of the camera's capabilities.
  Paul
 
  -
 
  Paul, what X would you recommend?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Joe
 
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OT: GVS (RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-06 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It all started with the Great Vowel Shift...
 
 -frank
 ==
 Okay, I'll bite. What the heck is the Great Vowel Shift?
  
 Marnie aka who has a lot of vowels
 

it is the name given to the changes in pronunciation of English vowels
that took place from the 15th to 18th centuries. To some extent it is
still taking place. It's the reason why some old poems have so-called
half-rhymes (ie they don't rhyme) - they did at the time - and one of
the reasons why English spelling can seem illogical. Spelling was
codified at a particular time and place along the line of the GVS, and
more or less accurately represents the pronunciation of the time 
place, but the pronunciation has since shifted.

Listen to some of the recordings here:
http://facweb.furman.edu/~mmenzer/gvs/what.htm

There is a distinct vowel shift taking place even now in the northern
cities of the USA among middle-class white people.

You may have fewer vowels than you think! In English a lot of spelt
vowels are just pronounced as schwa (the 2nd vowel in 'butter'), or as
diphthongs (and sometimes even triphthongs) depending on the variety
of English, rather than as vowels.

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Re: Stuck Filter

2006-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 12:57:58 GMT
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Stuck Filter
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Well, I'm in quite a quandry now.  I've got a polarizing filter stuck on
 the front of one of my lenses, as I discovered the other day.  Trying to
 remove it by hand was a complete non-starter for me and several other
 people who tried.  When I got home, I tried a strap wrench, and that
 worked.  That is, it was able to get enough grip on the filter to try
 to turn it.  The reason for the quotation marks is that the filter
 didn't let go, something threaded underneath the focus ring started
 unscrewing!  So I'm thinking I've got two choices at this point, (1) I
 could try to figure out how to break the glass out of the filter so I
 can deform the rings enough to pull them out without damaging the
 threads on the lens, and maybe still have to (2) send it to the repair
 center.  Any suggestions?

As you are dealing with both a polariser and that something else has come 
loose, I think it is unlikely that you are going to be able to manage to remove 
it without damaging something or unintentionally dismantling your lens.  Unless 
you are very lucky or skillful.  I think I would go with the dismantling and 
see what happens.  Once apart, you may then have a better chance of removing 
the filter.  At least you will then have a handful of parts that can be 
professionally reassembled.


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Re: K10D and AF speed

2006-10-06 Thread John Forbes
So what camera would you say is state of the art?

John

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:22:07 +0100, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes I did.
 This video proofs or more suggests that it is fast with non USM lenses  
 too.
 My only concern now is the IQ. If my expectations about IQ are fulfilled  
 the
 K10D is a milestone. The *istD was important indeed as a statement. The  
 K10D
 looks like a more refined camera. Not state of the art, but very  
 competitive
 in its segment.


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Thibouille
 Sent: 5. oktober 2006 18:44
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: K10D and AF speed

 Did you read my report?

 I dunno about USM speed of course but I can tell you that AF with
 DA18-55 at 55 (f/5.6) is *at least* 2-3 times faster than a D with
 NiMH.

 2006/10/5, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is not my main concern about the K10D, but I've been thinking a bit
 about it.
 I don't know how scientific this video at YouTube.com, comparing Sony
 Alpha,
 Canon 400D and Samsung GX10 is, but it should tell us something.

 http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=J4za9azUHz4eurl=iurl=http%3A//sjl-st

 atic4.sjl.youtube.com/vi/J4za9azUHz4/2.jpgt=OEgsToPDskKw9m4IDnBGvql-DscnV3K
 S

 http://tinyurl.com/kg9hy

 I don't worry about AF speed anymore :-)
 It seem to be way faster than the competitiors.


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Re: Flat or punchy

2006-10-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Tom C wrote:

 The flatness actually enhanced the photo and made
 it a better, more artful photograph, in my opinion.

To which one could respond: No, it's too flat for my liking.

Excellent, we are commenting on a hypothetical picture. PDML first? 
:-)

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Re: K10D and AF speed

2006-10-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
LX Gold? ;-)

On 06.10.2006, at 10:48 , John Forbes wrote:

 So what camera would you say is state of the art?

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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

2006-10-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 I have no idea where a credible source for MTF data on the DA14/2.8
 might be. I'm commenting based on what I see from examining 800-1000
 photographs made with it.

 I assumed the DS has an MTF program-line; if it's true, a QD test
 could show as a bias. Not looking for anything scientific or complete.
 I know you don't care much about shooting walls etc, so please see it
 as a favour.

 I'm sure it does,

According to Adam it doesn't. With the -D you would need to set it so 
that P follows the MTF curve (probably a menu setting), mount the lens 
and meter at various places. Thanks for the offer though!

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, John Celio wrote:

 Because there's no actual gain from making a subframe lens at that
 length, so no reason to do a DA lens.

 Could you explain further?  I was wondering why the long lenses were D-FA
 too, and I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Not sure anyone replied concretely: a 400 f4 requires (by definition, 
no design can change that) a 400/4=100mm diam front element. ~4 
inches. How is that for reduced image circle :-)

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Pål Jensen

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Another part of the rumor is that it might be an F5.6. We will just have
 to wait and see.


I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much better 
served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and fastest 
lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR. In addition it will 
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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/06/06 8:29 AM, Ken Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am sure they are still working on the firmware.

But these samples show already v1.0

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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
 On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 I have no idea where a credible source for MTF data on the DA14/2.8
 might be. I'm commenting based on what I see from examining 800-1000
 photographs made with it.
 I assumed the DS has an MTF program-line; if it's true, a QD test
 could show as a bias. Not looking for anything scientific or complete.
 I know you don't care much about shooting walls etc, so please see it
 as a favour.
 I'm sure it does,
 
 According to Adam it doesn't. With the -D you would need to set it so 
 that P follows the MTF curve (probably a menu setting), mount the lens 
 and meter at various places. Thanks for the offer though!
 
 Kostas
 

IIRC it's in the Custom Function menu on the D, but I haven't had one 
handy in a while.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 10/5/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I downloaded the sample files, and am printing 10x14 inch prints from
 them.
 The picture of the sheep has some veiling flare.
 Good one Pentax
 Otherwise, the pictures look fine, I must say.

The same but selected samples also shwon in Japanese site now.

http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/ex.html

Note in camera RAW processing!  If K10D can spit out this level of
good images without post processing, I am very pleased.
It appears that Pentax japan took out some problem images such as
sheep one.  I am sure they are still working on the firmware.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/06/06 8:29 AM, Ken Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am sure they are still working on the firmware.

They must be still working on high ISO samples.  I like to see other sample
routines such as night scene etc.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Digital Image Studio
Subject: Re: K10 samples



 I downloaded the sample files, and am printing 10x14 inch prints from
 them.
 The picture of the sheep has some veiling flare.
 Good one Pentax
 Otherwise, the pictures look fine, I must say.

 And significant CA and no actual blacks!

No CA that I could see in the prints. I didn't go looking for it on the 
monitor. The files weren't prepped very well, all of them needed a 
levels adjust.

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Pål Jensen wrote:
 I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much  
 better
 served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and  
 fastest
 lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR. In addition  
 it will
 work well and AF with converters.

I don't know about that. 400mm on a DSLR is a very long lens indeed  
for me. I tend to put even 200mm on a tripod. 135mm is my long lens.

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread pnstenquist
I use my 400 on a tripod where practical. But I frequently use it handheld as 
well. For example when shooting birds in flight. For that both the speed of the 
f4 lens and the SR of the K10D will give be a big advantage over my current 
A4009/5.6 on the *istD.
Paul
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Pål Jensen wrote:
  I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much  
  better
  served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and  
  fastest
  lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR. In addition  
  it will
  work well and AF with converters.
 
 I don't know about that. 400mm on a DSLR is a very long lens indeed  
 for me. I tend to put even 200mm on a tripod. 135mm is my long lens.
 
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FS Friday -- ist and battery grip

2006-10-06 Thread Scott Loveless
I'm selling my *ist and BG-20 grip.  Using the quote form at KEH, the
*ist and grip are EX+.  Everything works as it should.  KEH is
currently listing the same gear for about $260.  I'm offering the set
for $225 shipped within the CONUS.  Shipping will be a bit extra for
addresses outside the lower 48.  Also included are the original strap,
body cap and manual for the body.  Paypal, money order, cashier's
check, small unmarked bills, gold bullion and very fast motorcycles
are all acceptable forms of payment.

Please let me know if you have any questions.  Photos of the camera
and grip are here:
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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Ken,

I don't understand your comment about in camera raw processing.  These
pics are JPEG's, and the two that I dl'd last night had no EXIF info (that
I could find).  So where does raw fit into all this?

The pic of the old man looked pretty good on my screen.  Bokeh of the 70mm
looked ok as well.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Ken Takeshita 

 The same but selected samples also shwon in Japanese site now.

 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/ex.html

 Note in camera RAW processing!  If K10D can spit out this level of
 good images without post processing, I am very pleased.
 It appears that Pentax japan took out some problem images such as
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Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-06 Thread Gasha

I have to agree about durability.
MF version of 645 is like a piece of rock.

645 is great for portraits, because of handholdability and shallow DOF.
And of course for landscapes.

Gasha

Mark Roberts wrote:
 On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:14:46 +1000, you wrote:
 Somewhere I have a list of the advantages and disadvantages of each
 system. I'll see if I can dig it up. The short version:
 67 - Larger image size, interchangable finders
 645 - More compact, portable system, newer technology (AF, etc.)
 
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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

2006-10-06 Thread Thibouille
Indeed AFAIR the DS/DL/K100 only have the normal program preset.
D users (as Z1(p) and probably MZ-S) can choose for MTF, speed, depth
or normal and set by custom fuction.

2006/10/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
  On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
  On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
 
  I have no idea where a credible source for MTF data on the DA14/2.8
  might be. I'm commenting based on what I see from examining 800-1000
  photographs made with it.
  I assumed the DS has an MTF program-line; if it's true, a QD test
  could show as a bias. Not looking for anything scientific or complete.
  I know you don't care much about shooting walls etc, so please see it
  as a favour.
  I'm sure it does,
 
  According to Adam it doesn't. With the -D you would need to set it so
  that P follows the MTF curve (probably a menu setting), mount the lens
  and meter at various places. Thanks for the offer though!
 
  Kostas
 

 IIRC it's in the Custom Function menu on the D, but I haven't had one
 handy in a while.

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Gonz


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/10/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 
Anyone want a brain?  One owner, only lightly used...


You might get some offers in the Canon forum.  :)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread pnstenquist
Hawaii and Alaska.

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 Hi!
 
 People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Tom Lesser
Alaska and Hawaii.

Tom Lesser


On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!

 People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United
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 Thanks.

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Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United 
States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?

Thanks.

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RE: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The term most often used is Lower 48, sometimes - more rarely - is
Continental US (you may have seen the abbreviation CONUS).  The two states
you asked about are Alaska and Hawaii.

Shel



 [Original Message]
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 People often say lower 48 or low 48 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
Alaska and Hawaii, which are not contiguous to the other 48 states, 
Hawaii being a chain of Islands, and Alaska having Canada in between it 
and the rest of the Continental US.

-Adam


Boris Liberman wrote:
 Hi!
 
 People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United 
 States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?
 
 Thanks.
 
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fOR SALE fRIDAY

2006-10-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZjco

Fyi,

5 items found :

   SMC Pentax 55mm F1.8 K Series Lens - 35mm SLR / DSLR -
 $69.99
$79.99
 Not specified 1d 10h 44m   
   RMC Tokina 400mm F5.6 Super Telephoto Lens M42 
For Pentax Screw mount 35mm SLR 
- $129.99
 Not specified 2d 09h 49m   
   Argus Cosina STL1000 SLR Camera w SMC Takumar lens M42 
Mechanical SLR with top quality SMC 50mm F1.4 Pentax  
- $39.99
 $10.00  2d 09h 59m   
   Vivitar 90mm F2.8 MC MACRO Lens Pentax Screw M42 
For Pentax Screw mount 35mm SLR - 1:1 Magnification! 
- $129.99
 Not specified 2d 10h 04m   
   Kiron 28mm F2.0 FAST Wide Angle Lens - Pentax K A 
For Pentax K mount 35mm SLR / DSLR 
1 $129.99
 Not specified 2d 10h 04m 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
These states were added during my lifetime to the USA.
They were territories and lobbied to become states with full voting rights.
Hawaii is a long way from the mainland USA and occupied by Japanese tourists.
Alaska is still a frontier town with the population in wet coastal areas.
(It's part of our plan to annex the west coast of Canada and then Ontario,
leave the Frenchies to stew in their own juices.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On 10/6/06, Tom Lesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alaska and Hawaii.

 Tom Lesser


 On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

  Hi!
 
  People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United
  States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 The term most often used is Lower 48, sometimes - more rarely - is
 Continental US (you may have seen the abbreviation CONUS).  The two states
 you asked about are Alaska and Hawaii.

Great many thanks everyone who responded.

Well, now I am just a little bit wiser ;-).

Thanks again!

Boris

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Re: NorCal: SF Fleet Week

2006-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello John,

I really wish I could.  As it stands I have a wedding to shoot that
day so will be unable to attend.  It sure was fun last year!

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Friday, October 6, 2006, 12:25:57 AM, you wrote:

JC Any NorCal PDMLers going to Fleet Week in San Francisco this weekend?  I'm
JC going to try to get down to where we were last year to shoot the Blue Angels
JC and the other air shows this Saturday between 12 and 5.  I can't guarantee
JC I'll be there, since I told my brother I'd help him with something, but I'm
JC hoping we'll be able to get that done early in the day.

JC If you go, just look for a crazed photographer with a giant 500mm lens
JC shouting insults at passers-by carrying Canons. ;)

JC John Celio

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Re: FS: the remaining stuffs...

2006-10-06 Thread Dave Kennedy
Am interested in Cokin P121 filter. How much to ship to Ottawa, K2K 2E6?

dk

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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Alaska, Hawaii, and any non State overseas possessions such as Puerto Rico.

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United 
States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?

Thanks.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread John Francis

The K10D has the capability to produce a JPEG file (in camera) from
a shot originally exposed as a RAW image - kind of like a RAW+JPEG
exposure, but with the JPEG being created at a later time.
 
In the (mostly Japanese) text alongside the image the line that
identifies the firmware as V1.00 also includes the characters RAW
together with some ideograms - I'd guess this says in-camera RAW.

 
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:21:50AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Hi Ken,
 
 I don't understand your comment about in camera raw processing.  These
 pics are JPEG's, and the two that I dl'd last night had no EXIF info (that
 I could find).  So where does raw fit into all this?
 
 The pic of the old man looked pretty good on my screen.  Bokeh of the 70mm
 looked ok as well.
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Ken Takeshita 
 
  The same but selected samples also shwon in Japanese site now.
 
  http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/ex.html
 
  Note in camera RAW processing!  If K10D can spit out this level of
  good images without post processing, I am very pleased.
  It appears that Pentax japan took out some problem images such as
  sheep one.  I am sure they are still working on the firmware.
 
 
 
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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and converted to JPEG
within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to being shot
in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like Photoshop.  Correct?

Shel



 [Original Message]
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 Date: 10/6/2006 9:30:34 AM
 Subject: Re: K10 samples


 The K10D has the capability to produce a JPEG file (in camera) from
 a shot originally exposed as a RAW image - kind of like a RAW+JPEG
 exposure, but with the JPEG being created at a later time.
  
 In the (mostly Japanese) text alongside the image the line that
 identifies the firmware as V1.00 also includes the characters RAW
 together with some ideograms - I'd guess this says in-camera RAW.

  
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:21:50AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  Hi Ken,
  
  I don't understand your comment about in camera raw processing.  These
  pics are JPEG's, and the two that I dl'd last night had no EXIF info
(that
  I could find).  So where does raw fit into all this?



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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread graywolf
Alaska and Hawaii. The Lower 48 means the same thing as Continental 
US, or the contiguous states. There is beyond those 50 states the 
District of Columbia (federal capital) and a couple of protectorates 
whose people are considered US Citizens. However the US is slowly 
becoming part of Mexico by osmosis.

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Boris Liberman wrote:
 Hi!
 
 People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United 
 States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Norman Baugher
Canada.

From: Boris Liberman  
 People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the United 
 States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?
 


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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's always been a question mark to me whether the MTF line was used  
in any of the DS' Program or Program-presets. Not that I use any of  
the Program modes much anyway ... I think my camera has been used  
only on Av and M modes this entire trip so far.

Godfrey

On Oct 6, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Thibouille wrote:

 Indeed AFAIR the DS/DL/K100 only have the normal program preset.
 D users (as Z1(p) and probably MZ-S) can choose for MTF, speed, depth
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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes.
Pages 98-99 in the K10D instruction manual show how you can select  
and tweak a RAW file into a JPEG, in camera.

Godfrey

On Oct 6, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and converted  
 to JPEG
 within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to  
 being shot
 in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like Photoshop.   
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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
Yes.

This a capability unique to the K10D and Nikon D80.

-Adam


Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and converted to JPEG
 within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to being shot
 in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like Photoshop.  Correct?
 
 Shel
 
 
 
 
[Original Message]
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: 10/6/2006 9:30:34 AM
Subject: Re: K10 samples


The K10D has the capability to produce a JPEG file (in camera) from
a shot originally exposed as a RAW image - kind of like a RAW+JPEG
exposure, but with the JPEG being created at a later time.
 
In the (mostly Japanese) text alongside the image the line that
identifies the firmware as V1.00 also includes the characters RAW
together with some ideograms - I'd guess this says in-camera RAW.

 
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:21:50AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hi Ken,

I don't understand your comment about in camera raw processing.  These
pics are JPEG's, and the two that I dl'd last night had no EXIF info
 
 (that
 
I could find).  So where does raw fit into all this?
 
 
 
 



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K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and converted to 
JPEG within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to 
being shot in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like 
Photoshop.  Correct?

Shel

-

I find this puzzling. Don't all JPEGs originate as RAW data that are 
then JPEG-ized in the camera?

Pentax is advertising that you can do RAW processing in the K10D, like 
one would do in a program residing on your computer. I assume this means 
just that one has more control over how the camera processes the RAW 
into a JPEG.

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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Douglas Newman


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 The term most often used is Lower 48, sometimes -
 more rarely - is Continental US 

That's 49 states; Alaska is Continental.

The Lower 48 is equivalent to the Contiguous US.

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Re: Stuck Filter

2006-10-06 Thread Brendan MacRae
That's what I thought, too. But I had one stuck on my
old 200mm f2.5 and it worked.

-Brendan

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  Doug,
 
  I'm kinda suprised by a lot of the advice you been
  given so far. The old trick I've used in the past
 has
  always worked: thread a couple more filters onto
 the
  stuck filter and tighten them slightly. Then
 you've
  got better leverage to get the stuck one off and
 they
  usually all come off together.
 
 Not likely to work too well with a pol filter :-)
 
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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Olympus C8080WZ also had this capability. I don't know of any  
others that do at this time.

Godfrey

On Oct 6, 2006, at 6:12 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

 Yes.

 This a capability unique to the K10D and Nikon D80.

 -Adam


 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and  
 converted to JPEG
 within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to  
 being shot
 in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like Photoshop.   
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Douglas Newman
--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Lower 48 means the same thing as Continental
 US, or the contiguous states. 

No, no, no, Alaska IS continental... It's not an
island! (Neither is Rhode Island, but that's another
story ;-).)

Continguous, on the other hand, does indeed refer to
the same states as the lower 48.

I believe this term originated in post-statehood
Alaska as we are lower than they are. Today it is
really rather obsolete since Hawaii is in fact just as
low as most of the lower states (and lower than
many of them), but nonetheless it is still a popular
term.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread John Francis

That would be my interpretation, yes.

The result should produce basically the same file as would have been
produced by shooting in JPEG (or RAW+JPEG), but of course you've 
still got a RAW file for use with your favourite image editor.

It's handy if you usually shoot RAW, but need a JPEG file fast
(for giving to somebody else, or for a quick-and-dirty test print)
and you don't have any image editing software handy.  And, of
course, it presumably lets you defer decisions on white balance,
contrast, saturation, etc.


On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 09:40:52AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and converted to JPEG
 within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to being shot
 in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like Photoshop.  Correct?
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: 10/6/2006 9:30:34 AM
  Subject: Re: K10 samples
 
 
  The K10D has the capability to produce a JPEG file (in camera) from
  a shot originally exposed as a RAW image - kind of like a RAW+JPEG
  exposure, but with the JPEG being created at a later time.
   
  In the (mostly Japanese) text alongside the image the line that
  identifies the firmware as V1.00 also includes the characters RAW
  together with some ideograms - I'd guess this says in-camera RAW.
 
   
  On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:21:50AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   Hi Ken,
   
   I don't understand your comment about in camera raw processing.  These
   pics are JPEG's, and the two that I dl'd last night had no EXIF info
 (that
   I could find).  So where does raw fit into all this?
 
 
 
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Re: Stuck Filter

2006-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
A wide rubber band has usually worked for me.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Stuck Filter


 On 06/10/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doug,

 I'm kinda suprised by a lot of the advice you been
 given so far. The old trick I've used in the past has
 always worked: thread a couple more filters onto the
 stuck filter and tighten them slightly. Then you've
 got better leverage to get the stuck one off and they
 usually all come off together.
 
 Not likely to work too well with a pol filter :-)
 
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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote:
 OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and converted to 
 JPEG within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to 
 being shot in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like 
 Photoshop.  Correct?
 
 Shel
 
 -
 
 I find this puzzling. Don't all JPEGs originate as RAW data that are 
 then JPEG-ized in the camera?
 
 Pentax is advertising that you can do RAW processing in the K10D, like 
 one would do in a program residing on your computer. I assume this means 
 just that one has more control over how the camera processes the RAW 
 into a JPEG.
 
 Joe
 

one has all the controls that you can normally set on the camera, plus 
basic exposure controls. The advantage is you can change the settings on 
a per-image basis after the fact (rather than shooting in JPEG where you 
are stuck with the settings you picked). This isn't as good as a good 
RAW converter, but far better than shooting RAW+JPEG for getting good 
proofs.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 6, 2006, at 12:11, Joseph Tainter wrote:

 I find this puzzling. Don't all JPEGs originate as RAW data that are
 then JPEG-ized in the camera?


Yep - but processed per the settings you have already selected BEFORE  
pressing the shutter release.

 Pentax is advertising that you can do RAW processing in the K10D, like
 one would do in a program residing on your computer. I assume this  
 means
 just that one has more control over how the camera processes the RAW
 into a JPEG.

Right.  Forget to switch to Tungsten white balance?  No problem.   
Just process the RAW file into a JPEG with the proper (or custom?)  
white balance setting and you're good to go.  I like the idea of  
being able to shoot RAW but still end up with a usable JPEG to grab  
and webbify quickly.

  -Charles

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Another advantage would be if you are like me, I set white balance
later.  So if I was shooting in incandescent light, a normal jpeg would
be wrong.  Shooting Raw+jpeg would have me end up with a poor jpeg.
Shooting raw alone and then later converting one image to jpeg in
camera, hopefully the white balance could be corrected.

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Friday, October 6, 2006, 10:27:10 AM, you wrote:


JF That would be my interpretation, yes.

JF The result should produce basically the same file as would have been
JF produced by shooting in JPEG (or RAW+JPEG), but of course you've 
JF still got a RAW file for use with your favourite image editor.

JF It's handy if you usually shoot RAW, but need a JPEG file fast
JF (for giving to somebody else, or for a quick-and-dirty test print)
JF and you don't have any image editing software handy.  And, of
JF course, it presumably lets you defer decisions on white balance,
JF contrast, saturation, etc.


JF On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 09:40:52AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW and converted to JPEG
 within the camera, using the camera firm/software, as opposed to being shot
 in JPEG or converted to JPEG in editing software like Photoshop.  Correct?
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: 10/6/2006 9:30:34 AM
  Subject: Re: K10 samples
 
 
  The K10D has the capability to produce a JPEG file (in camera) from
  a shot originally exposed as a RAW image - kind of like a RAW+JPEG
  exposure, but with the JPEG being created at a later time.
   
  In the (mostly Japanese) text alongside the image the line that
  identifies the firmware as V1.00 also includes the characters RAW
  together with some ideograms - I'd guess this says in-camera RAW.
 
   
  On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:21:50AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   Hi Ken,
   
   I don't understand your comment about in camera raw processing.  These
   pics are JPEG's, and the two that I dl'd last night had no EXIF info
 (that
   I could find).  So where does raw fit into all this?
 
 
 
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Friday Foto Fun

2006-10-06 Thread Bertil Holmberg
It is that time of the year when Nobel prizes are heaped on a few  
deserving and needy. All the rest can always hope for the alternative  
Ig Nobel Prize, and that's where we find the photography connection.  
The math prize went down under to Nic Svenson and Piers Barnes who  
have calculated the number of group photos required to get one where  
nobody is blinking. Not quite in the Ig tradition, being marginally  
meaningful.

http://velocity.ansto.gov.au/velocity/ans0011/article_06.asp
http://www.improb.com/
http://nobelprize.org/

Bertil

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Chan
 Another part of the rumor is that it might be an F5.6. We will just have
 to wait and see.

I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much better
served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and fastest
lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR. In addition it will
work well and AF with converters.

Agreed. 400/5.6 is rather pointless now, but I have some concern on 400/4
too, as it will be very expensive. Very expensive Pentax lenses never sold
that well, according to history.

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PESO: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
Came across this one while selecting some stuff for large format 
prints today, it is a scan from a 67 slide taken at Yosemite.

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=182

A split ND filter was used to reduce contrast 
between the dome and its reflection ...

This was taken during day hours, not the famous 
few minutes near sunset when the dome turns red :-)

Comments welcome!

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Re: Pentax DA 12-24/4

2006-10-06 Thread John Celio
 It's always been a question mark to me whether the MTF line was used
 in any of the DS' Program or Program-presets. Not that I use any of
 the Program modes much anyway ... I think my camera has been used
 only on Av and M modes this entire trip so far.

I only just recently discovered the Program Line options in my D.  I had 
no idea what that custom setting meant till someone here mentioned it and I 
looked into it further.  It's incredibly useful!

Last weekend my girlfriend and I were up at my parents' place with my 
brothers and their wives.  We younger folk played a mini game of Ultimate 
Frisbee, and I took photos part of the time.  I turned the Program Line 
option to Hi Speed and was able to freeze the action most of the time (I 
was using my D-FA 100mm 2.8, but it was a really gray day).  Afterwards I 
took a bunch of macro flower photos, so I switched the Program Line to 
MTF, which, even though none of Pentax's sites explain it particularly 
well, I gathered meant shooting with the lens at its sharpest aperture 
setting.  I ended up with some pretty nice stuff, though I haven't gotten 
around to doing anything with it yet.

I think the Program Line option is a pretty damn cool idea.  I don't recall 
seeing anything like it in any other company's cameras, and I wish I'd known 
about it when I was selling cameras.  No one else has the kind of 
versatility Pentax does.  Hyper modes, the Green Button, the Program Line, 
and now the sensitivity-priority modes.

Damn I'm glad I own a Pentax.

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Re: Stuck Filter

2006-10-06 Thread Doug Franklin
mike wilson wrote:

 As you are dealing with both a polariser and that something else
 has come loose, I think it is unlikely that you are going to be
 able to manage to remove it without damaging something or
 unintentionally dismantling your lens.  Unless you are very lucky
 or skillful.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.  Some of them are things I
either did try our would have if I could figure it out.

The strap wrench I mentioned  is basically a big rubber band with a
handle, and that's what I was able to get enough purchase with to
actually make something rotate.  The problem, as Mike notes, is that the
something that rotated wasn't the bloody filter.  The lens was about to
disassemble in my hands.

I wanted to try the hot/cold trick, but I couldn't figure out how to do
it.  The lens is a Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro, and it's got rubberized
cladding and a built-in lens hood that make it tough to apply heat to
the appropriate places.

I'm still looking for Kroil, but I might try a couple of the penetrating
lubricants I have for the cars.

 I think I would go with the dismantling and see what
 happens.  Once apart, you may then have a better chance of
 removing the filter.  At least you will then have a handful of
 parts that can be professionally reassembled.

:-)  I'm trying to decide if I'm brave enough to try that.  I think I
will have a better shot at the filter if I disassemble whatever was
unscrewing.  I'm not so sure I can get things back together. :-)
Luckily I probably won't need the lens until the spring.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread John Celio
 This a capability unique to the K10D and Nikon D80.

 The Olympus C8080WZ also had this capability. I don't know of any
 others that do at this time.

I believe most Olympus E-xxx dSLRs have that option, though I could be 
wrong.  I think Olympus was the first company to feature RAW--jpg in-camera 
conversion, or at least they were the first to make a big deal out of it 
when their reps trained us back then.

Regardless, I've always been a little jeallous of that feature.  I'm really 
glad it'll be in the K10D.

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RE: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
Now I understand why they call you Steady. Handholding a 4009mm is quite an
achievement. 


Tim
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I use my 400 on a tripod where practical. But I frequently use it handheld
as well. For example when shooting birds in flight. For that both the speed
of the f4 lens and the SR of the K10D will give be a big advantage over my
current A4009/5.6 on the *istD.
Paul
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  better
  served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and  
  fastest
  lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR. In addition  
  it will
  work well and AF with converters.
 
 I don't know about that. 400mm on a DSLR is a very long lens indeed  
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Re: PESO: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Post card shot! Well seen and composed.
I do have a question about focus/aperture. It may be the small file,
the focus in combination with the chosen aperture, my eyes and/or
monitor, but the dome ridge looks sharper than the intervening trees
which, themselves, are a fair distance away.
Does the 6x7 slide confirm the slightly soft tree appearance?
Thanks for this reminder of my favorite Ntl Park.

Jack

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 Came across this one while selecting some stuff for large format 
 prints today, it is a scan from a 67 slide taken at Yosemite.
 
   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=182
 
 A split ND filter was used to reduce contrast 
 between the dome and its reflection ...
 
 This was taken during day hours, not the famous 
 few minutes near sunset when the dome turns red :-)
 
 Comments welcome!
 
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K10D Manual download

2006-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
My servers must be overloaded again, I've been trying to download the
K10D manual again to do a bit more reading, but page cannot be found
has come up numerous times over the last hour.
Anyone else?
Just wondering if I'm alone again. :-[

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Re: PESO: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Jack,

On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 11:58:00 -0700 (PDT), Jack Davis wrote:

Post card shot! Well seen and composed.

Thanks!

I do have a question about focus/aperture. It may be the small file,
the focus in combination with the chosen aperture, my eyes and/or
monitor, but the dome ridge looks sharper than the intervening trees
which, themselves, are a fair distance away.
Does the 6x7 slide confirm the slightly soft tree appearance?

Yes, it has been a while, but I most likely focused on 
the dome itself, and DOF is not that large with the 67 :-)

Thanks for this reminder of my favorite Ntl Park.

Mine too (together with Yellowstone and Zion)

Allthough I live in Europe, I have been to Yosemite at least 4 times, 
for one day visits as well as hiking for a few days ...

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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: Quick question


 Boris,
 These states were added during my lifetime to the USA.
 They were territories and lobbied to become states with full voting 
 rights.
 Hawaii is a long way from the mainland USA and occupied by Japanese 
 tourists.
 Alaska is still a frontier town with the population in wet coastal 
 areas.
 (It's part of our plan to annex the west coast of Canada and then 
 Ontario,
 leave the Frenchies to stew in their own juices.)

We've already decided; you guys get Quebec, we get New Mexico.

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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Øsleby
Subject: RE: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF


Now I understand why they call you Steady. Handholding a 4009mm is quite 
an
achievement.

I bet it's a mirror lens.

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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman
Subject: Quick question


 Hi!

 People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the
 United
 States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?

BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, Nove Scotia, PEI,
Newfoundland, Yukon, NW Territories, Nunavit, Hawaii and Alaska.

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Re: PESO: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Nicely done.  It makes me want to be there in person.

Jan van Wijk wrote:

Came across this one while selecting some stuff for large format 
prints today, it is a scan from a 67 slide taken at Yosemite.

   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=182

A split ND filter was used to reduce contrast 
between the dome and its reflection ...

This was taken during day hours, not the famous 
few minutes near sunset when the dome turns red :-)

Comments welcome!

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RE: K10D Manual download

2006-10-06 Thread Richard Day
It's been removed from the site as it was a preliminary draft and shouldn't
have been put up.

You can get it from here:
http://www.priyantha.nl/tweakers/index.php?dir=pentax/K10D/samples/

Richard

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Sent: 06 October 2006 20:06
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: K10D Manual download

My servers must be overloaded again, I've been trying to download the K10D
manual again to do a bit more reading, but page cannot be found
has come up numerous times over the last hour.
Anyone else?
Just wondering if I'm alone again. :-[

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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Tom C
What about New Brunswick?



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Subject: Quick question


  Hi!
 
  People often say lower 48 or low 48 in regard to some of the
  United
  States. What are the states that do not belong to low 48?

BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, Nove Scotia, PEI,
Newfoundland, Yukon, NW Territories, Nunavit, Hawaii and Alaska.

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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I think we want to negotiate.  Will you take California too?

William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: Quick question


  

Boris,
These states were added during my lifetime to the USA.
They were territories and lobbied to become states with full voting 
rights.
Hawaii is a long way from the mainland USA and occupied by Japanese 
tourists.
Alaska is still a frontier town with the population in wet coastal 
areas.
(It's part of our plan to annex the west coast of Canada and then 
Ontario,
leave the Frenchies to stew in their own juices.)



We've already decided; you guys get Quebec, we get New Mexico.

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Re: New Monitor Time.

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mat Maessen
Subject: Re: New Monitor Time.



 If your video card doesn't have a DVI output, be sure to add one that
 does to the shopping list. 

How doea one know?

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Re: New Monitor Time.

2006-10-06 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/6/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If your video card doesn't have a DVI output, be sure to add one that
  does to the shopping list.
 How doea one know?

Look at the video card, and reference this picture -
http://www.karbosguide.com/images/_780.jpg

Don't worry about the TV-out connector. :-)

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:28 PM, John Celio wrote:

 The Olympus C8080WZ also had this capability. I don't know of any
 others that do at this time.

 I believe most Olympus E-xxx dSLRs have that option, though I could be
 wrong.  I think Olympus was the first company to feature RAW--jpg  
 in-camera
 conversion, or at least they were the first to make a big deal out  
 of it
 when their reps trained us back then.

 Regardless, I've always been a little jeallous of that feature.   
 I'm really
 glad it'll be in the K10D.

I tried it once or twice but never really used it at all. The C8080WZ  
was mostly too slow at capture time to work with RAW effectlively.  
Frankly, it was an excellent performer but a very irritating camera  
to use.

The feature might prove useful with the K10D.

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Re: New Monitor Time.

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mat Maessen
Subject: Re: New Monitor Time.


 On 10/6/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If your video card doesn't have a DVI output, be sure to add one 
  that
  does to the shopping list.
 How doea one know?

 Look at the video card, and reference this picture -
 http://www.karbosguide.com/images/_780.jpg

 Don't worry about the TV-out connector. :-)

Excellent. I have an adaptor thingie hooked up to that one for my second 
screen.

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RE: K10D Manual download

2006-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks Tom, William and Richard. It's now securely saved.

Jack

--- Richard Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's been removed from the site as it was a preliminary draft and
 shouldn't
 have been put up.
 
 You can get it from here:
 http://www.priyantha.nl/tweakers/index.php?dir=pentax/K10D/samples/
 
 Richard
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Jack
 Davis
 Sent: 06 October 2006 20:06
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: K10D Manual download
 
 My servers must be overloaded again, I've been trying to download the
 K10D
 manual again to do a bit more reading, but page cannot be found
 has come up numerous times over the last hour.
 Anyone else?
 Just wondering if I'm alone again. :-[
 
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ACR (beta 3.6) with K100D support

2006-10-06 Thread Thibouille
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100601acr36beta.asp


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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling 
Subject: Re: Quick question


I think we want to negotiate.  Will you take California too?
 

No, but we will consider Oregon and Idaho.

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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C 
Subject: Re: Quick question


 What about New Brunswick?

What about it?

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Re: New Monitor Time.

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:37 PM, William Robb wrote:

 If your video card doesn't have a DVI output, be sure to add one that
 does to the shopping list.

 How doea one know?

You can tell from the connectors available on the graphics card if  
nothing else.
This page is useful regards DVI:
   http://www.pacificcable.com/DVI_Tutorial.htm

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RE: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Bill Owens
How about you keep Quebec and we'll trade you Mississippi for New Mexico.

Bill

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What about New Brunswick?



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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
This is a wonderful feature.  It solves a problem a friend and I were
thinking about not very long ago.  If nothing else, I'm loving some of the
features the camera offers.  Next is to get my sweaty paws on one ... 

Thanks to all who jumped in with an answer or a comment.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 Yes.
 Pages 98-99 in the K10D instruction manual show how 
 you can select  and tweak a RAW file into a JPEG, in camera.

 Godfrey

 On Oct 6, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  OK, so if I understand you, the pics were made in RAW 
  and converted  to JPEG within the camera, using the camera 
  firm/software, as opposed to being shot in JPEG or converted 
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Re: ACR (beta 3.6) with K100D support

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm, well, ACR v3.5 already processes K100D PEF files with no problem  
at all. DNG Converter does the same to transform them to DNG format.  
I suspect that Adobe simply neglected to list them, or they didn't  
test them adequately (to their standards) for the v3.5 release.

Now let's see how long it takes them to release a K10D compatible  
version... ;-)

Godfrey


On Oct 6, 2006, at 9:14 PM, Thibouille wrote:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100601acr36beta.asp



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About Sigma 21-35 f/3.5-4.2

2006-10-06 Thread Thibouille
Anybody with an idea on this lens ?
It could be a cheap way of getting a 21mm on 35mm.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/06/06 12:28 PM, John Francis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The K10D has the capability to produce a JPEG file (in camera) from
 a shot originally exposed as a RAW image - kind of like a RAW+JPEG
 exposure, but with the JPEG being created at a later time.
 
 In the (mostly Japanese) text alongside the image the line that
 identifies the firmware as V1.00 also includes the characters RAW
 together with some ideograms - I'd guess this says in-camera RAW.
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:21:50AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Hi Ken,
 
 I don't understand your comment about in camera raw processing.  These
 pics are JPEG's, and the two that I dl'd last night had no EXIF info (that
 I could find).  So where does raw fit into all this?
 
 The pic of the old man looked pretty good on my screen.  Bokeh of the 70mm
 looked ok as well.
 
 Shel
 

Sorry, Shel.
While I was out, people gave you answers :-).

Re John's comment, I forgot that the link was in Japanese.  Yes, it does say
in-camera RAW.
What I liked about those samples which I suppose were the same as the UK
ones, they look very natural, colour fidelity is very good, of course the
resolution is good too (girl's hair), but not too crisp, crisp.
Also the data shows that images parameters (saturation, sharpness and
contrast) are all set at standard , resolution super fine and the
setting at natural except for the sample 1  3, all with no exposure
compensation.

For the guy like me, who rather use more jpeg over RAW (80 to 20, or perhaps
75 to 25), this as well as RAW+jpeg, is a God send.  I like to print as many
as possible particularly for those family snap shots etc which my family
refused to see it on a monitor alone.  For those, I simply go to local lab.
When I know I want to post process, I shoot RAW.  Otherwise, I cull too many
shots.

Also, by properly setting for jpeg, I can still feel the thrill of shooting
of film (you think and fiddle with all parameters at the time of the
shooting, rather than leaving everything for the post processing, sitting in
front of computer).  Magazine photog and other pros definitely need to shoot
in RAW, but let me enjoy the thrill of jpeg :-).

Not that I have any doubt on Pentax's ability to produce superb high ISO
images, I will place an order immediately after seeing the sample of good
high ISO.  For usual snap shots and family record etc, I might even buy a
K100D too, budget permitting.

So far, so good.  I feel very confident in Pentax's ability in designing the
image processing engine.

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Re: PESO: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
I agree with you about Zion and Yellowstone, but would have to put
Grand Teton right next to Yosemite.

Jack

--- Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jack,
 
 On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 11:58:00 -0700 (PDT), Jack Davis wrote:
 
 Post card shot! Well seen and composed.
 
 Thanks!
 
 I do have a question about focus/aperture. It may be the small file,
 the focus in combination with the chosen aperture, my eyes and/or
 monitor, but the dome ridge looks sharper than the intervening trees
 which, themselves, are a fair distance away.
 Does the 6x7 slide confirm the slightly soft tree appearance?
 
 Yes, it has been a while, but I most likely focused on 
 the dome itself, and DOF is not that large with the 67 :-)
 
 Thanks for this reminder of my favorite Ntl Park.
 
 Mine too (together with Yellowstone and Zion)
 
 Allthough I live in Europe, I have been to Yosemite at least 4 times,
 
 for one day visits as well as hiking for a few days ...
 
 Regards, JvW
 
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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread Tom C
You didn't include it in the list of other states...



Tom C.



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Subject: Re: Quick question


  What about New Brunswick?

What about it?

William Robb


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Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 01:12:57PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim ?sleby
 Subject: RE: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF
 
 
 Now I understand why they call you Steady. Handholding a 4009mm is quite 
 an
 achievement.
 
 I bet it's a mirror lens.

Would that be a znel?


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Re: Quick question

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Re: Quick question


 You didn't include it in the list of other states...

They are in a state of confusion.
We don't pay them much heed.

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Re: A nice K10D feature

2006-10-06 Thread Gonz
Well you can set your exp comp +/- up or down depending on  the 
direction you want to bracket, take the three, now you have 0, one over, 
two over, or vice versa.  Maybe thats more than what you want, but at 
least its in the direction you want.

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 On 06/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
According to the manual, you can get X under only or X over only
using exposure comp in combination with bracketing.
 
 
 Not quite what I was suggesting, I simply often don't need to shoot
 three frames when I bracket, 0 and one under or 0 and one over, the
 third frame is generally a waste of card space.
 

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Re: OT: CPU question

2006-10-06 Thread cbwaters
For the update file:
I bought another 512 stick of PC3200 ram today.
Is my message any faster?

CW


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 Thanks Mat.
 This ASUS does support dual channel RAM.
 ftp://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-mx/e1880_p4p800-mx.pdf

 Looks like, if I moved up to a 800Mhz FSB, I'll have to get new RAM.  :(

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 On 9/29/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My PC is a P4 1.7 (don't know the FSB speed) and I've got 504MB of DDR
 DIMM
 RAM (not sure of the speed there either)

 It's probably DDR400 RAM. The processor is 400 MHZ FSB. If you don't
 have DDR400 memory, you'll see a performance increase just by
 upgrading that.

 Without switching motherboards, I can move up to around P4 3.0 with an
 800Mhz FSB and hyper-threading for about $85.

 Honestly, unless you move up to a motherboard that either has
 dual-channel RAM access, or uses DDR2 RAM (not backwards compatible
 with your DDR RAM), you probably won't see much of a performance
 difference. The real bottleneck is between the memory and the
 processor.

 How would one describe the improvement is speed here?  1-10 with ten
 being
 waoh, that's the best $85 I ever spent!

 Probably about a 2 or a 3 on that scale. Honestly, your money is
 probably better spent in getting more memory. Photoshop is MUCH
 happier on my machine with a gig of RAM available than it was with
 only 512 megabytes.

 If I were in your position, I'd probably spend $50-60 to throw another
 512 megabytes of RAM at the machine, and start saving up for one of
 the Intel-based macs. The Core 2 Duo would be a significant
 improvement over what you have now.

 -Mat

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Re: Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 10/6/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I liked about those samples which I suppose were the same as the UK
 ones,

I noticed that UK samples were in jpeg.

Ken

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Re: Stuck Filter

2006-10-06 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/10/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The strap wrench I mentioned  is basically a big rubber band with a
 handle, and that's what I was able to get enough purchase with to
 actually make something rotate.  The problem, as Mike notes, is that the
 something that rotated wasn't the bloody filter.  The lens was about to
 disassemble in my hands.

Bummer, if you do need to break the filter just use something like an
eclipse automatic centre punch towards the edge of the filter and you
will be able to control the break.

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FS: Battery pack FG

2006-10-06 Thread cbwaters
I STILL have the battery pack FG.
For all MZ/ZX cameras.  It's new, in the box.
Buy it now, you know you want one. 
$20 + shipping.

Thanks,
Cory


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Re: A nice K10D feature

2006-10-06 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well you can set your exp comp +/- up or down depending on  the
 direction you want to bracket, take the three, now you have 0, one over,
 two over, or vice versa.  Maybe thats more than what you want, but at
 least its in the direction you want.

If I'm shooting a pano and I need to bracket in order to ensure that
the latitude for the whole scene is covered I rarely need to shoot
three shots per frame, this just really slows me down particularly on
the *ist D. Even with the K10D's 9 frame RAW buffer bracketing would
cause a significant operational delay if shooting a 5 frame pano.

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Re: K10 samples

2006-10-06 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/10/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried it once or twice but never really used it at all. The C8080WZ
 was mostly too slow at capture time to work with RAW effectlively.
 Frankly, it was an excellent performer but a very irritating camera
 to use.

 The feature might prove useful with the K10D.

I suspect I'd be using it about as often as I use multiple exposures
on the *ist D and that's never, pity they didn't implement loss less
compression of the RAW files instead, that would have be a really
useful feature.

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RE: K10D and AF speed

2006-10-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
Good question John. Honestly I don't know what I meant using this term ;-)
Higher specked, pro bodies, full frame and such. 

Thinking about it I'd say that D200 is not state of the art, either is 5D
(it is a good camera, but it is not a fine tuned refined camera). So I
believe I was referring to highest of the high class. 

BTW. In my old days as a HiFi freak I was used to referring to extremely
fine tuned and well built equipment by this term. Now I think the HiFi
freaks calls this stuff high end. I prefer using state of the art, to me
it indicates craftsmanship, artistic madness, and a little dose of magic ;-)

I like madness ;-)



Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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So what camera would you say is state of the art?

John

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:22:07 +0100, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes I did.
 This video proofs or more suggests that it is fast with non USM lenses  
 too.
 My only concern now is the IQ. If my expectations about IQ are fulfilled  
 the
 K10D is a milestone. The *istD was important indeed as a statement. The  
 K10D
 looks like a more refined camera. Not state of the art, but very  
 competitive
 in its segment.


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

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 Did you read my report?

 I dunno about USM speed of course but I can tell you that AF with
 DA18-55 at 55 (f/5.6) is *at least* 2-3 times faster than a D with
 NiMH.

 2006/10/5, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is not my main concern about the K10D, but I've been thinking a bit
 about it.
 I don't know how scientific this video at YouTube.com, comparing Sony
 Alpha,
 Canon 400D and Samsung GX10 is, but it should tell us something.


http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=J4za9azUHz4eurl=iurl=http%3A//sjl-st


atic4.sjl.youtube.com/vi/J4za9azUHz4/2.jpgt=OEgsToPDskKw9m4IDnBGvql-DscnV3K
 S

 http://tinyurl.com/kg9hy

 I don't worry about AF speed anymore :-)
 It seem to be way faster than the competitiors.


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Re: OT: CPU question

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
cbwaters wrote:

For the update file:
I bought another 512 stick of PC3200 ram today.
Is my message any faster?

Absolutely. I was able to read it in less than a tenth of a second!
Ain't technology wonderful?
 
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Re: PESO: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack Davis wrote:

I agree with you about Zion and Yellowstone, but would have to put
Grand Teton right next to Yosemite.

Right, I usually include that in Yellostone trips :-)

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