RE: Easter bestiary

2007-04-10 Thread Bob W
 I love #5 with the sad little girl on the end. 

Thanks. I think she finds Bertie Bassett as disturbing as I do.

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 http://www.web-options.com/Easter/
 
 Bob
 
 ==
 Nice  gallery. I love #5 with the sad little girl on the end. 
 And the cow is  
 funny.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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RE: Easter bestiary

2007-04-10 Thread Bob W
One of the nice things about living here in Greenwich is that there is
so much variety. I can cycle into Central London in about 30 minutes.
It's less than 10k from here, yet I also have the river, heathland,
parks, a farm!, Greenwich itself, markets, real countryside a few
train stations away, the coast. It's incredibly varied. 

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 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Boris Liberman
 Sent: 10 April 2007 04:59
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 Subject: Re: Easter bestiary
 
 Fascinating. The more interesting fact is that it *almost* 
 has no sense 
 of London/England in it... At least I don't see any being foreign
;-).
 
 Boris
 
 
 Bob W wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I spent most of the Easter weekend pootling about Greenwich,
  Blackheath and the Isle of Dogs on my bike. Here's some of 
 the stuff I
  saw:
  
  http://www.web-options.com/Easter/
  
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Re: GESO - Dogs on Holiday

2007-04-10 Thread Alastair Robertson
Thanks Bob W, Marnie, and Bruce for commenting

yes, the two dogs are obviously very cued into each other and to their
master!  I like that photo too though I realised later that the focus
is sharpest on the more distant dog and it might have been better on
to have the dog in front sharpest. My favourite of these is actually
the dogs running towards the camera
http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/76889603 - it captures the
mood.

Alastair

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Re: The reason for my silence - this time...

2007-04-10 Thread John Coyle
Congratulations Cesar, to you and Teresa.
When's the big day?

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: The reason for my silence - this time...


 Greetings fellow Pentaxians,
 
 A few of you are already aware of my news.
 
 I proposed to my girlfriend in February and she said yes!
 
 Look at: http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/Teresa.msnw for a 
 couple of shots of us, our favorite pastime, and a poor peek at the 
 ring.  All shots taken with the *ist D.
 
 So, this NPW at GFMtn may be the last hurrah for me for a while.
 We will be working on wedding arrangements once I return to Florida for 
 good.
 So I don't know if I can make the Camera Clinic.
 
 I have been lurking for the most part and am hoping to get back into the 
 list at some point.
 My film cameras are sitting idle for the moment, but they should be 
 getting some exercise soon.
 
 I do have a few candidates for the Cheapskate Challange, I just have to 
 get some time to pick one and upload it somewhere...
 
 Good light,
 
 Cesar
 Panama City, Florida
 Working in Baltimore, Md.
 in NYC at the moment
 
 
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Thibouille
Not very familier with those but the simple fact a brand might
reintroduce film is a welcome thing IMO.

2007/4/10, Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Fuji is reintroducing Velvia 50!

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Re: Storm (in a glass?) on the Hoya-Pentax merge

2007-04-10 Thread Thibouille
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0704/07041001hoyapentaxoff.asp

2007/4/10, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It's a Bloomberg article, it the stockholders make money, the sky never
 falls...

 Kenneth Waller wrote:
  Sky to fall later.
 
  Kenneth Waller
 
  - Original Message -
  From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Subject: Re: Storm (in a glass?) on the Hoya-Pentax merge
 
 
 
  Synopsis:
 
  Pentax decided to pull out.  Hoya ups the bid.  Pentax President
  resigns, outside analysts say this a good move for Hoya, it will allow
  them to fully dismember Pentax when it's acquired. This is
  contraindicated by statement that Pentax's board is expected to reject
  new offer.  Stocks going up everybody happy.
 
  Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
  News here:
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080sid=a8aPwjcZNgvsrefer=asia
 
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Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:58 AM, Bob W wrote:

 you can also move up to better filters you know.

What a waste of good lens money :)

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Re: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2007, at 3:49 AM, Mark Erickson wrote:

 I think it's been said before, but you might try using lens hoods for
 protection.  They create no optical degradation and sometimes even  
 reduce
 lens flare!

Yes that's true, but metal, plastic or rubber?

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PESO - Learning to shoot

2007-04-10 Thread drew
Hi all,

My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at least
she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)

http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html

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RE: PESO more photos

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
I second that. 
And Cowfriends is very charming. It has some technical flaws, but a very
nice relaxed atmosphere, and I love the interaction.


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: Re: PESO more photos

This in one of the better action shots i'v seen in a bit. Good angle
and i like the crowd being in the background.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5803815

Dave

On 4/6/07, J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I added a few more photos (sports) to my page if any one wants to
 have a look and give me their thoughts.
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Re: PESO - Bird in Tree

2007-04-10 Thread Russell Kerstetter
nice environmental portrait Bruce!

Russ

On 4/8/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, ok, it had been quite a while since I had last posted any PESO's
 so I got a few all at once.  This is the last one.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4674a.htm

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Re: PESO - Learning to shoot

2007-04-10 Thread Russell Kerstetter
That's a cute one!

Russ

On 4/10/07, drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at least
 she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)

 http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html

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Re: BATCH RAW CONVERSION?

2007-04-10 Thread Russell Kerstetter
if you are using a Mac there is Graphic Converter

http://www.lemkesoft.com/

Russ

On 4/8/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anybody got some recommendations on how
 to convert a whole bunch of pentax istdDS RAW
 files to sRGB jpegs with some control
 like compression rate, sharpenng, image size, etc.
 ( actually as much control as possible,
 but still a massive automatic batch conversion)??
 If it matters I am using PS CS and the
 second to last ACR version ( new one is
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RE: GESO (again) - Local Auto Motor Show

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
I seldom comment on car pictures, because I'm not a car person. I don't
relate much to the motif. You have seen my car, so you probably know that.


And with a gallery of them, the odds are very low. 

But after revisiting the gallery I found one picture that attracted my
attention. The one with the cell phone guys. 
Gadgets turns men into boys. That's funny. 

BTW: That probably why military turns men into boys. Oh no, that is supposed
to be the other way around ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: GESO (again) - Local Auto Motor Show

Hi!

We've visited an exhibition called Galgalim 2007 (Wheels 2007). I am 
mildly disappointed 'cause I expected much more.

Nonetheless we had our share of fun.

http://boris.isra-shop.com/galgalim_2007/index.html

I am getting more and more convinced that an ultra-zoom will be 
replacing half dozen various zoom lenses I am having in my lens cabinet.

Hope I am not tiring you with my stuff here...

Boris

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Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Hey, folks,

While reading this thread, it occurred to me that there have been some
messages over the years about which hoods fit which lenses, even using
the wrong hood on the wrong lens or using some other manufacturer's
hood on a lens.  If the group thinks there is utility in doing so, I
could host a hood cross reference page on our web site to provide that
information to other folks.

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RE: PESO: Yellow

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
That's what I saw too. I saw the same as when I open a unstirred box of
fresh paint. 
I could feel the smell, until I examined the shadows a bit more, and
realised it is something solid. 

Whatever it is, I like the photo. 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: Re: PESO: Yellow

First glance I thought it was liquid paint.  Very nice!

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Saturday, April 7, 2007, 4:16:32 AM, you wrote:


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Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Cool idea - although you may get some strange-sounding responses from me
LOL

Shel



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 Hey, folks,

 While reading this thread, it occurred to me that there have been some
 messages over the years about which hoods fit which lenses, even using
 the wrong hood on the wrong lens or using some other manufacturer's
 hood on a lens.  If the group thinks there is utility in doing so, I
 could host a hood cross reference page on our web site to provide that
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Re: Easter bestiary

2007-04-10 Thread graywolf
Wow, now I am envious, here there are the mountains, but I have to drive 
an hour to find a decent store for anything you can not buy at Wal-Mart 
or the Grocery.

-graywolf


Bob W wrote:
 One of the nice things about living here in Greenwich is that there is
 so much variety. I can cycle into Central London in about 30 minutes.
 It's less than 10k from here, yet I also have the river, heathland,
 parks, a farm!, Greenwich itself, markets, real countryside a few
 train stations away, the coast. It's incredibly varied. 

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Re: PESO - Learning to shoot

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Andy

Quoting drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at
 least
 she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)
 
 http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html
 
 Cheers,
 Andy.



A photographer in the making!  Well captured - and using a great little camera 
as well.


Cheers

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RE: PESO: Go Blue

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you Bob for enlightening me.


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Sent: 8. april 2007 18:44
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Subject: Re: PESO: Go Blue

Tim,
Eversee cherr leaders at a chess match?
He is wearing a stocking cap that shows
he is a supporter of the University of Michigan.
(a student body of probably 20,000+)
At football games they cheer 'Go Blue!.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 4/8/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The title is wasted on me. I don't get it. But that's me.
 I like what I see. So the picture has a life without the title.

 Paul. I never able to see your verticals as intended. They are too large
for
 my screen. I know. I should buy a new monitor.


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 Subject: PESO: Go Blue

 Twenty-two year senior Bill Bust a Big Move Murphy tries the
 outside as Michigan takes on Ohio State.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5812375

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread graywolf
Got to compete with digital somehow GRIN!

Jack Davis wrote:
 Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
 detail.

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Re: Try a hood

2007-04-10 Thread Christian
David Mann wrote:
 metal, plastic or rubber?

rubber, of course!  oh wait, you are asking about LENS hoods...  Never 
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OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread William Robb
Hi:
I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
It doesn't have an extension, it is zero bytes in size, and zero bytes on 
the disk.

When I try to delete it, I get an error message Cannot delete file: Cannot 
read from the source file or disk.
If I try to change attributes, or copy it, I get an error: The system 
cannot find the specified file.

It seems like a ghost of files past.
I'd like to get rid of it, but it doesn't seem to be there, except as an 
icon.
Any ideas?

Thanks

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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Lets try the usual Microsoft Answer, have you rebooted?

William Robb wrote:
 Hi:
 I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
 It doesn't have an extension, it is zero bytes in size, and zero bytes on 
 the disk.

 When I try to delete it, I get an error message Cannot delete file: Cannot 
 read from the source file or disk.
 If I try to change attributes, or copy it, I get an error: The system 
 cannot find the specified file.

 It seems like a ghost of files past.
 I'd like to get rid of it, but it doesn't seem to be there, except as an 
 icon.
 Any ideas?

 Thanks

 William Robb 


   


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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Restart in safe mode (reboot and press F8 as soon as windows starts)
and try to delete the file from there (should be under C:\Documents
and Settings\username\desktop where username is, well, the user name).

If this doesn't work try this:

Download the utility move on boot: http://www.gibinsoft.net/gipoutils/

old version is free

good luck

On 4/10/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lets try the usual Microsoft Answer, have you rebooted?

 William Robb wrote:
  Hi:
  I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
  It doesn't have an extension, it is zero bytes in size, and zero bytes on
  the disk.
 
  When I try to delete it, I get an error message Cannot delete file: Cannot
  read from the source file or disk.
  If I try to change attributes, or copy it, I get an error: The system
  cannot find the specified file.
 
  It seems like a ghost of files past.
  I'd like to get rid of it, but it doesn't seem to be there, except as an
  icon.
  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks
 
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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote:
 Hi:
 I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
 It doesn't have an extension, it is zero bytes in size, and zero bytes on 
 the disk.

 When I try to delete it, I get an error message Cannot delete file: Cannot 
 read from the source file or disk.
 If I try to change attributes, or copy it, I get an error: The system 
 cannot find the specified file.

 It seems like a ghost of files past.
 I'd like to get rid of it, but it doesn't seem to be there, except as an 
 icon.
 Any ideas?

 Thanks

 William Robb 


   
Found this on the intarweb, Bill.

Open a Command Prompt window and leave it open. Close all open 
programs.  Click Start, Run and enter TASKMGR.EXE   Go to the Processes 
tab and End Process on Explorer.exe.  Leave Task Manager open. Go back 
to the Command Prompt window and change to the directory the AVI (or 
other undeletable file) is located in.  At the command prompt type DEL 
filename  where filename is the file you wish to delete.   Go back 
to Task Manager, click File, New Task and enter EXPLORER.EXE to restart 
the GUI shell.  Close Task Manager.

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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread Christian
P. J. Alling wrote:
 Lets try the usual Microsoft Answer, have you rebooted?


And if that fails, have you tried formatting and re-installing the 
operating system? :-)

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 William Robb wrote:
 Hi:
 I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
 It doesn't have an extension, it is zero bytes in size, and zero bytes on 
 the disk.

 When I try to delete it, I get an error message Cannot delete file: Cannot 
 read from the source file or disk.
 If I try to change attributes, or copy it, I get an error: The system 
 cannot find the specified file.

 It seems like a ghost of files past.
 I'd like to get rid of it, but it doesn't seem to be there, except as an 
 icon.
 Any ideas?

 Thanks

 William Robb 


   
 
 

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Re: PESO - Learning to shoot

2007-04-10 Thread David Savage
On 4/10/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Andy

 Quoting drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at
  least
  she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)
 
  http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html
 
  Cheers,
  Andy.

 A photographer in the making!  Well captured - and using a great little 
 camera as well.

The Trip was the family camera for longer than I've been alive (and
it's been in the family longer than my parents have been together).
It's never missed a beat, and takes really nice pictures.

Cute shot Drew. She looks to have a good technique. :-)

Cheers,

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Re: Try a hood

2007-04-10 Thread David Savage
On 4/10/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Mann wrote:
  metal, plastic or rubber?

 rubber, of course!  oh wait, you are asking about LENS hoods...  Never
 mind...  ;-)

???Latex full face mask  hood???

If so, it says a bit about you mate.

:-)

Cheers,

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Re: Try a hood

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Would you care to see something in a nice rubberized plastic...

Christian wrote:
 David Mann wrote:
   
 metal, plastic or rubber?
 

 rubber, of course!  oh wait, you are asking about LENS hoods...  Never 
 mind...  ;-)


   


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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
That is the next step...

Christian wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 Lets try the usual Microsoft Answer, have you rebooted?
 


 And if that fails, have you tried formatting and re-installing the 
 operating system? :-)

   


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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread David Savage
On 4/10/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:
  Lets try the usual Microsoft Answer, have you rebooted?


 And if that fails, have you tried formatting and re-installing the
 operating system? :-)

Where are all the Mac heads? The obvious answer hasn't been offered yet.

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Re: PESO - Get that camera outa my face!

2007-04-10 Thread Scott Loveless
Scott Loveless wrote:
 Sorry about the kid pics.  Being a stay-at-home-dad leaves me with 
 relatively few options for subject matter.  Fortunately, I like 
 photographing my kids.  Hope you can stand another:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/MeganAndMolly/photo#504882833973394

 Pretty much straight out of the camera.  If you check out the larger 
 sized image you can see some details that are hard to spot in the 
 smaller version, such as the bubbles floating in the air.

 Comments and critiques are always welcome.

   
Thanks to everyone who replied.  Yes, the fence is crooked.  No, I don't 
care.  We're renting.  The tilt of the photograph was the one aspect 
almost everyone commented on.  I think I'll leave it as is for the time 
being.  The girls are pretty much upright, which is saying a lot 
actually.  Crawling around at their level and trying to keep up with 
them makes for some challenging photography.  I was just happy that it 
didn't come out all Theriaultian.  g  On a more serious note, I've 
been attempting to edit in the viewfinder.  As much as is possible I'm 
trying not to crop my photos.  This is a matter of philosophy and 
personal preference, and definitely not something I'm claiming to be gospel.

Once again, thanks for the comments.  Much appreciated, as always.

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Re: PESO - Bird in Tree

2007-04-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks.  With these small guys, I many times have to shoot more in
this style - need a much longer lens - more like a 600-800mm.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007, 5:05:45 AM, you wrote:

RK nice environmental portrait Bruce!

RK Russ

RK On 4/8/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, ok, it had been quite a while since I had last posted any PESO's
 so I got a few all at once.  This is the last one.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4674a.htm

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Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Amita Guha
What now?
http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/04/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What now?
 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

Apparently the sky is falling (well a goodly percentage of Pentax
directors thought so anyway)!

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Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Jay Taylor
My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a  
possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,  
how do you like it ?
I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets  
bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able  
to view links back to my photos.
The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple  
pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited  
account already, but wonder how the paid service compares to PBase  
and some of the others.

Thanks,
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike  
their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting  
commercial websites.

That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or  
use .Mac ...

G

On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

 My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited
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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:10 AM, David Savage wrote:

 Where are all the Mac heads? The obvious answer hasn't been offered  
 yet.

We're exhibiting our compassion for Windows users.

Godfrey


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PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
For a couple of weeks we had very nice spring weather here. Now it is
pouring down again. So I thought I'd better warm myself with a flower
picture I took. 
(Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be able to
see it)

My first macro for a long long time, so it is almost a debut ;-)
It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens didn't produce more flare.

Pentax glass rules!
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom, nothing
fancy or dramatic. 
Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software. 


Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated ;-)


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Re: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 10, 2007, at 1:14 AM, David Mann wrote:

 I think it's been said before, but you might try using lens hoods for
 protection.  They create no optical degradation and sometimes even
 reduce lens flare!

 Yes that's true, but metal, plastic or rubber?

I prefer a rigid lens hood ... metal, plastic or hard rubber material  
doesn't matter. Most of mine are metal, screw in type hoods, unless  
the Pentax plastic bayonet-on hood is designed for the DSLR field of  
view.

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Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/04/07, Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally I rely on filters for protection. Because I feel much
 better cleaning a $40 filter than the front element of a $300+ lens.

It's just like insurance, you really have to assess if it's warranted.
Looking at it another way I could say that because I haven't fitted
$40 filters to all my lenses I can afford up to a $900 lens repair.
Fortunately in 20+ years of Pentax lens ownership and use in rain,
wind, surf and sand I haven't damaged a front lens element due to not
having a protective filter attached.

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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Tim,

The lighting coming through is rather nice.  The big detractor for me
is the out of focus light color at the bottom of the picture.  It competes with 
the
flower for my attention.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007, 8:43:04 AM, you wrote:

TØ For a couple of weeks we had very nice spring weather here. Now it is
TØ pouring down again. So I thought I'd better warm myself with a flower
TØ picture I took. 
TØ (Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be able to
TØ see it)

TØ My first macro for a long long time, so it is almost a debut ;-)
TØ It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens didn't produce more flare.

TØ Pentax glass rules!
TØ http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
TØ K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom, nothing
TØ fancy or dramatic. 
TØ Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software. 


TØ Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated ;-)


TØ Tim Typo
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Re: PESO - Bird in Tree

2007-04-10 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Bruce,

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:30:24 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Thanks.  With these small guys, I many times have to shoot more in
this style - need a much longer lens - more like a 600-800mm.

Sigma 800mm f/5.6 EX, available in Pentax mount :-)

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RE: PESO: Memories of spring

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
I see what you mean. It's a rock. 
The only way I could have avoided it was with a lower perspective. I was
already lying at the ground. 
So it didn't seem worth the trouble digging myself down ;-)

Thanks for looking.


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bruce Dayton
Sent: 10. april 2007 17:58
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Memories of spring

Hello Tim,

The lighting coming through is rather nice.  The big detractor for me
is the out of focus light color at the bottom of the picture.  It competes
with the
flower for my attention.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007, 8:43:04 AM, you wrote:

TØ For a couple of weeks we had very nice spring weather here. Now it is
TØ pouring down again. So I thought I'd better warm myself with a flower
TØ picture I took. 
TØ (Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be
able to
TØ see it)

TØ My first macro for a long long time, so it is almost a debut ;-)
TØ It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens didn't produce more
flare.

TØ Pentax glass rules!
TØ http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
TØ K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom,
nothing
TØ fancy or dramatic. 
TØ Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software. 


TØ Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated ;-)


TØ Tim Typo
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C

ME

I'd buy some 220.



Tom C.


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Great! And just who is the film user on the list? :-))
Paul
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C

Cool!

Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.


Tom C.


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Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
detail. Right Tom?

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Or more correctly, they thought the sky might fall if they went ahead  
with the acquisition plan.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 On 11/04/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What now?
 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

 Apparently the sky is falling (well a goodly percentage of Pentax
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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Business as usual for the time being. It's probably a good thing for  
the camera division. But I suspect Hoya will be back with another  
offer that is more attractive to the Pentax board.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Amita Guha wrote:

 What now?
 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
It has not yet been determined if the sky is falling or not.  Further study 
is needed to determine if there is really a sky.  If there is a sky, it may 
actually be stationary and items below it are moving up relative to the sky. 
Maybe the sky has already fallen aand we are living in it, unawares of our 
placement in relation to it. :-)

I agree that they appear to have been afraid of getting axed had the merger 
taken place.

Tom C. - more below...

   TOKYO (Nikkei)--The going appears to be tough in the merger negotiations
between Hoya Corp. (7741) and Pentax Corp. (7750).  The current deadlock 
began
when Pentax shareholders demanded a review of the proposed stock-swap ratio,
but on a deeper level it's all about digital cameras, said a Pentax 
executive.

 Hoya CEO Hiroshi Suzuki will convene an extraordinary board meeting on
Tuesday to change its plan for Pentax from a merger to a takeover bid.

 Pentax, meanwhile, will likely oppose Hoya's new proposal because most 
of
its directors, including Senior Executive Officer Takashi Watanuki, who will
take the reins from outgoing President Fumio Urano, are against both a 
merger
and tender offer.

 The negotiations were going smoothly until Suzuki said at Hoya's Jan. 
22
briefing on its financial settlement that selling off (Pentax shares) will 
be
an option if they don't bring enough return on investment in general terms.

 Hoya enjoys a high ratio of consolidated operating profit, nearly 30%,
which cannot be attained with digital cameras.  We may not be able to 
afford
to continue the operations, said a Pentax director.

 At the April 4 board meeting, a majority of Pentax directors opposed 
the
merger with Hoya because the proposal poses the risk of a 'no' vote by
shareholders due to concern about the stock-exchange ratio, said one.  Said
another director, I'm against the merger, as that represents the opinion of
the employees.

 Pentax began merger negotiations with Hoya in early 2006, under 
pressure
from a need to review its digital-camera operations.

 At the time, There was a trusting relationship between Suzuki and
Watanuki, said an insider.  But negotiations broke down in June, due mainly 
to
a disagreement over the number of directors Pentax wanted to send to the 
merged
firm.  Urano resumed negotiations with Suzuki and without Watanuki in the
summer, but didn't get to specifics, said the insider.

 Under pressure from an investment fund to sell off the poorly 
performing
digital-camera operations and concentrate on medical equipment and devices,
Urano, who wanted to keep digital-camera operations, conceded to Hoya's
proposal that it send in three directors against Pentax's two, a plan that 
was
announced on Dec. 21.

 Rapid technological innovation gives digital cameras a short product
cycle, making it difficult to generate stable income over the long term.  
That
led Konica Minolta Holdings Inc. (4902) to withdraw from the business last
spring.

 After two consecutive years of losses in imaging systems, mainly
consisting of digital cameras, Pentax drastically cut costs and introduced
three new digital single-lens-reflex models last year.  It revised its 
fiscal
2006 shipment plan upward twice, to top 300,000 units, 2.5 times its volume 
for
fiscal 2005.  The selloff proposal by the fund and the Hoya remark implying 
a
lack of commitment came as unwelcome surprises.

 Pentax developed the first made-in-Japan 35mm SLR camera in 1952, and 
has
a special attachment to camera operations even though medical equipment 
brings
it more profit.  The founding Matsumoto family, including former president
Tohru Matsumoto, who led the firm for 22 years, still owns 7-8% of the 
company.
They will likely vote against a merger or tender offer.

 While it has reduced investment in compact models to pursue quality 
over
quantity, the future remains as uncertain for Pentax as the longer-term 
growth
prospects of the digital SLR market.

-- Translated from an article written by Nikkei staff writers Shimao Ojima 
and
Soichi Inai.
 (The Nikkei Business Daily Tuesday edition)
-0- Apr/10/2007  2:18 GMT


From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:25:02 -0400

Or more correctly, they thought the sky might fall if they went ahead
with the acquisition plan.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

  On 11/04/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What now?
  http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
 
  Apparently the sky is falling (well a goodly percentage of Pentax
  directors thought so anyway)!
 
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Sharpe
He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.

At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
Cool!

Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.


Tom C.

From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

William Robb wrote:
..

Bill, there are no stupid questions. There are stupid answers...
like this one.
:-D

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread cbwaters
Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!

I'll start the pot with um
$35?
My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.

CW

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 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Jens Bladt
This osunds just right, Paul. They're probably just fighting over the pice
tag :-)
Regards
Jens

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Business as usual for the time being. It's probably a good thing for
the camera division. But I suspect Hoya will be back with another
offer that is more attractive to the Pentax board.
Paul
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 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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Re: Easter bestiary

2007-04-10 Thread Amita Guha
Love the pic of the cow's head with Canary Wharf (?) in the background.

Amita

On 4/9/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interesting array. Incidentally, I still prefer your re-worked ethereal
 version of Reedbed.

 Jack

  Hi,
 
  I spent most of the Easter weekend pootling about Greenwich,
  Blackheath and the Isle of Dogs on my bike. Here's some of the stuff
  I
  saw:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/Easter/
 
  Bob
 
 
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Re: The reason for my silence - this time...

2007-04-10 Thread Amita Guha
 You know I had a thought about this.  The photographers I know I would
 want to attend as friends - so who would take the shots?

 A dilemma no doubt, but a nice one :-)

The cool thing about that is that you'll have all these great extra
shots to supplement the pro's output. Some of my favorite shots from
my wedding are ones taken by friends.

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RE: pentax Gallery: Interesting correspondence

2007-04-10 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks for sharing, Mark. This is quite interesting.
Hopefully I'll manage to find some more, good Pentax-only shots to try to
submit
Anyone knows when the Beta version becomes an Alpha-site?
Regards

Jens Bladt

http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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Emne: pentax Gallery: Interesting correspondence


A while back I noticed some errors in the data I had included with
photos I'd had accepted into the Pentax Gallery. I edited the data to
correct it and the photos went into the awaiting approval queue
again.

And as has happened to others, one of my previously approved images was
rejected. So, just for the heck of it, I sent an email to ask why the
images needed to be reviewed again if only the text associated with
them was changed. It seems to me to be actively discouraging people
from correcting mistakes (or just misspellings, in my case), as well as
making unnecessary work for the judges.

Anyway, I got a reply which did discuss some of the qualities they are
looking for and how they look, not only at the overall contents of the
Pentax Gallery, but at the individual submitter's body of work. (I
hadn't considered that and it seems like a very sensible idea.) As far
as why an photo would need to be reviewed again when the image data
hasn't changed, I got only:

If you change any data on an image, it will need to be
re-accepted. Unlike the artist approval, even though an image was
accepted before, it may not be accepted again.

Which of course we already knew.

So I wrote back saying I was interested in knowing why this was the
case, since it didn't seem to make sense to discourage photographers
from correcting errors.

Perhaps it's my imagination, but the reply seemed slightly peeved and
commented that the question had been answered in the first email..
which it quoted exactly as above. I didn't write back to point out that
the above most certainly not answer the question of *why* this is the
case. I didn't want to be rude and heck, it's their gallery; they're
entitled to run it any way they like. I was just curious. I like to
know how things work!

The first email mentioned that the Gallery has been *far* more
successful (interms of interest and submissions) than they expected and
is generating a large volume of submissions. So personally, I think the
re-review upon data change is something that started out as a
database bug and is now being used to thin the herd, so to speak :)

Needless to say, any further errors I find in my submissions will
remain uncorrected!


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist

I've been using photo.net for quite a few years. It's fast and easy.  
I'm quite satisfied with it, and it includes a large community. So  
feedback is never a problem.
Paul
 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

 My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100.  You know, 
the kind where you have to say, It looked better than this in real life. 
;-)



Tom C.



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Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400

He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.

At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
Cool!

Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.


Tom C.

From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/10/2007 9:26:50 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Or more correctly,  they thought the sky might fall if they went ahead  
with the  acquisition plan.
Paul

===
I think they may have been  right. Sounds like Pentax wants to keep making 
cameras and that wasn't so  certain under a Hoya merger.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  




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RE: PESO: Funny Dog Picture

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
It gave me some ideas in the direction of flash diffusers. The concepts are
rather close. 

A chow chow my parent owned had to wear one of those for a period. The funny
thing was that she was not able to know the direction of sounds, because her
point of view all audible inputs came from the front. That made her rather
confused ;-)

We had to put her down because she was nervous and aggressive, but that’s
another story. She showed aggression towards my little sister, who was
crawling at the floor. We could not take the risk of the dog harming her. I
was nine, and I remember that as a sad day. 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: PESO: Funny Dog Picture

Jester had a bit of surgery a couple of weeks ago.
I thought the disembodied head look to be a bit surreal.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/elizabethan_bug.html

Enjoy

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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
I know one thing for sure. This is going to be debated over at DPReview ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

What now?
http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread mike wilson
Steve Sharpe wrote:

 Fuji is reintroducing Velvia 50!
 
Of all the films in all the world... 8-(

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Dario Bonazza
Yes, and JCO for President ;-)

$ 50 in the pot here.

Dario

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Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


 Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
 
 I'll start the pot with um
 $35?
 My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
 
 CW
 
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 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/10/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.

You're such a luddite

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Norm Baugher
I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.
Norm

Mark Roberts wrote:
 Paul Stenquist wrote:

   
 On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

 
 Fuji is reintroducing Velvia 50!

   
 Great! And just who is the film user on the list? :-))
 

 Frank.

 ...and he shoots Tri-X

 ...and he just bought an ist-D
 ;-)


   


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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Sharpe
Ah. The GAF 64 look. :^)

http://earth.delith.com/customshouse.html



At 11:01 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100. 
You know, the kind where you have to say, It looked better than 
this in real life. ;-)


Tom C.

From: Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400

He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.

At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
Cool!

Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.


Tom C.

From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/9/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Frank.

 ...and he shoots Tri-X

 ...and he just bought an ist-D
 ;-)

Well said, Mark.

Especially the winky-smiley part.  ;-)

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Re: PESO - Learning to shoot

2007-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
The treasured memory moment!

Boris

drew wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at least
 she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)
 
 http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html
 
 Cheers,
 Andy.
 
 


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Many, if not most, ISPs offer free or very inexpensive, space on their
systems for subscribers.  I put my pics up on the Earthlink servers and it
works just fine for me.  Earthlink allows me to have eight mailboxes, and
each mailbox comes with a certain amount of free space which I use for
hosting pics and galleries.  The total is not a huge amount of space, but
since it's only used for posting pics, it's been adequate for my needs for
years.  Total cost = $0.00  All I needed to know how to access the space
and a few simple lines of HTML code that allows me to post the pics in the
manner I prefer, essentially using the same code for every pic.

While I can write the code for my own galleries - it's really simple and
easy to do, there are many free programs out there that can do it for you,
such as Porta, the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) and
several of the image editing programs, like Photoshop, will create
galleries with a variety of features and designs.

Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
Photonet or other such hosts.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike  
 their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting  
 commercial websites.

 That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or  
 use .Mac ...

 G

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

  My annual subscription is coming up 
  on PBase and I'm considering a
  possible change of service. For those 
  of you who have used Photo.net,
  how do you like it ?
  I'm overall somewhat satisfied with 
  PBase, but sometimes find it gets
  bogged down with slow uploading 
 . and some folks don't seem to be able
  to view links back to my photos.
  The upload feature of selecting a 
  single .zip files of multiple
  pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets 
  and galleries functions.
  I'd like to find out more about Photo.net 
  though. I have a limited
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:16 PM
 Hi Lasse,
 Good to hear from you. It must be homecoming weekend on the PDML.
 Hope you decide to post some spring pics. We are allowed to view
 Canon photos. That general permission falls under a set of guidelines
 known as the Cotty rules. :-)
 Paul

Thanks for your welcome Paul,

Also thanks for encouraging me to post pictures.
I hope that I will do so, once I finish some other things that need my 
attention right now.
There's been a period of very little creativity photography-wise. But I have 
well grounded hopes for this to change in the near future though.

Thanks,
Lasse

 On Apr 7, 2007, at 8:36 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:

 Hi all,

 Just want to say hi to you all and that I'm still around.
 Spring has arrived up here, although for the time being it's still
 a bit
 chilly and windy.
 But there is more light and among everything else that springtime
 brings
 along, you start thinking about how to photographically make the
 best use of
 the increased sunlight.

 It's nice to see that the list is running very much like it has
 always run,
 that many of you oldies are still around as well as some new blood
 having
 joined.

 I have stayed subscribed all the time, although I'm now shooting
 Canon (20D)
 and haven't been posting for a really long time - a year, two
 years? However
 there is still a Pentax torch glowing inside, if this expression
 doesn't
 sound too silly in English.

 Due to lack of funds for a number of years, I haven't been able to
 make some
 needed upgrades of equipment - on all levels - which has somewhat
 stalled
 some of my plans.

 After what must be considered a full and maybe fulfilled life, my
 father
 recently passed away, at the age of 85. I am still, along with my
 sister,
 sorting out the legal aspects that follow his passing. (My mother
 passed
 away many years ago.)
 As often is the case when parents pass away, there will now be some
 funds
 coming my way, which will allow me to invest in some new equipment.
 I have looked into and felt tempted to buy into Pentax again. However
 previous experiences of shooting with different brands may lead me to
 staying with only Canon. We'll see.

 Anyway, since I'm doing some spring-cleaning, I'm about to get rid
 of some
 old stuff that has been laying around or fallen into my lap.
 Following this
 message I will post another and list some items just in case
 someone might
 be interested in some creative trades or want to bid on something.
 (Just not
 cause any expectations I might emphasize that there probably won't
 be any
 real goodies from a Pentax shooter's point of view.)

 Thanks,
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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
I imagine the addvertisemnts:

YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dario Bonazza
Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
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Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

Yes, and JCO for President ;-)

$ 50 in the pot here.

Dario

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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


 Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
 
 I'll start the pot with um
 $35?
 My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
 
 CW
 
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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
 Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
 
 
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 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Jay Taylor wrote:

My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a  
possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,  
how do you like it ?
I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets  
bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able  
to view links back to my photos.
The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple  
pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited  
account already, but wonder how the paid service compares to PBase  
and some of the others.

Thanks,
JayT
  

Jay, I am really loving smugmug - check that out - and if you
do and mention me (annsan.smugmug.com) I get a small bit of moolah and 
you get a discount too.

I've never gotten such fast responses in email to questions and they are 
very nice and helpful -
the themes are nice and depending on the type of account you have you 
can do a lot of customizing...
I've barely scratched the surface there.


The general link to them is just www.smugmug.com

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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C

OK I will, but only if it has an aperture simulator.

Tom C.



From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0200

I imagine the addvertisemnts:

YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

Yes, and JCO for President ;-)

$ 50 in the pot here.

Dario

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From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


 Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!

 I'll start the pot with um
 $35?
 My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.

 CW

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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
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 What now?
 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:32 PM

 Hi Lasse,
 Good to hear your still around and thanks for the update. My condolences
 regarding your father.
 Norm

Thanks Norm,

Good to hear from you too and that you're still around.
Btw. where are you situated for the time being? Have you settled down 
somewhere?

Thanks,
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
working. Or call me lazy.

Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
close enough for the time being.


Tom C.


From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700

Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
Photonet or other such hosts.

Shel



  [Original Message]
  From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

  I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
  their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
  commercial websites.
 
  That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
  use .Mac ...
 
  G
 
  On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
 
   My annual subscription is coming up
   on PBase and I'm considering a
   possible change of service. For those
   of you who have used Photo.net,
   how do you like it ?
   I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
   PBase, but sometimes find it gets
   bogged down with slow uploading
  . and some folks don't seem to be able
   to view links back to my photos.
   The upload feature of selecting a
   single .zip files of multiple
   pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
   and galleries functions.
   I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
   though. I have a limited
   account already, but wonder how the paid
   service compares to PBase
   and some of the others.



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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:18 PM

 Lasse, it is nice to have you back.

Thank you Boris, nice talking to you again too.

 After what must be considered a full and maybe fulfilled life, my father
 recently passed away, at the age of 85. I am still, along with my sister,
 sorting out the legal aspects that follow his passing. (My mother passed
 away many years ago.)

 This is sad news indeed. My condolences.

Thanks.

 As often is the case when parents pass away, there will now be some funds
 coming my way, which will allow me to invest in some new equipment.
 I have looked into and felt tempted to buy into Pentax again. However
 previous experiences of shooting with different brands may lead me to
 staying with only Canon. We'll see.

 What seems to be true is that no matter what gear one uses - the
 photograph is made by the photographer. The gear is secondary. Thus
 whatever gear you choose will matter less than what you would see
 through your viewfinder tripping the shutter.

I fully agree with your statement. Well put.

 Anyway, since I'm doing some spring-cleaning, I'm about to get rid of 
 some
 old stuff that has been laying around or fallen into my lap. Following 
 this
 message I will post another and list some items just in case someone 
 might
 be interested in some creative trades or want to bid on something. (Just 
 not
 cause any expectations I might emphasize that there probably won't be any
 real goodies from a Pentax shooter's point of view.)

 Oh!!! Enablement ;-). This is something that never stops, doesn't it?
 (Hmmm, I am confused here with the grammar - doesn't it/does it - which
 one is true?!)

 See you around.

I look forward to it.

Thanks,
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of 
charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of folders.

But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making 
there my own very simple web page.

Boris


Tom C wrote:
 Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
 line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
 working. Or call me lazy.
 
 Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
 fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
 close enough for the time being.
 
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700

 Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
 Photonet or other such hosts.

 Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
 their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
 commercial websites.

 That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
 use .Mac ...

 G

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

 My annual subscription is coming up
 on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those
 of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
 PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading
 . and some folks don't seem to be able
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a
 single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
 and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
 though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid
 service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.


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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
lol
On 4/10/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK I will, but only if it has an aperture simulator.

 Tom C.


 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0200
 
 I imagine the addvertisemnts:
 
 YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!
 
 
 Tim Typo
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Dario Bonazza
 Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
 
 Yes, and JCO for President ;-)
 
 $ 50 in the pot here.
 
 Dario
 
 - Original Message -
 From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
 
 
   Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
  
   I'll start the pot with um
   $35?
   My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
  
   CW
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
   Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
  
  
   What now?
   http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
  
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:50 PM

 Lasse,
 Good to hear from you.  Sorry to hear about your father.
 Best regards,
 Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Good to hear from you too and seeing that you're in full action.

Thanks,
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
Hi Boris,

I've had my own domain for 7 years and still haven't got a gallery up.  Now 
that's lazy! :-)

Tom C.



From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:09:36 +0300

I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of
charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of folders.

But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making
there my own very simple web page.

Boris


Tom C wrote:
  Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one 
single
  line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not
  working. Or call me lazy.
 
  Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net 
works
  fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's
  close enough for the time being.
 
 
  Tom C.
 
 
  From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
  Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
 
  Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to 
used
  Photonet or other such hosts.
 
  Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
  I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
  their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
  commercial websites.
 
  That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
  use .Mac ...
 
  G
 
  On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
 
  My annual subscription is coming up
  on PBase and I'm considering a
  possible change of service. For those
  of you who have used Photo.net,
  how do you like it ?
  I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
  PBase, but sometimes find it gets
  bogged down with slow uploading
  . and some folks don't seem to be able
  to view links back to my photos.
  The upload feature of selecting a
  single .zip files of multiple
  pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
  and galleries functions.
  I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
  though. I have a limited
  account already, but wonder how the paid
  service compares to PBase
  and some of the others.
 
 
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Re: PESO - Learning to shoot

2007-04-10 Thread drew
David Savage wrote:
 On 4/10/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Andy

 Quoting drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at
 least
 she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)

 http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html

 Cheers,
 Andy.
 A photographer in the making!  Well captured - and using a great little 
 camera as well.
 
 The Trip was the family camera for longer than I've been alive (and
 it's been in the family longer than my parents have been together).
 It's never missed a beat, and takes really nice pictures.
 
 Cute shot Drew. She looks to have a good technique. :-)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 

Thanks Dave, Russell, Boris and Brian. I was just testing the trip 
having bought it for 1 pound at a car boot sale earlier that day. I am 
happy to report it works (great little camera too). I have added a one 
of the shots Alex took to the page. I am quite impressed, straight off 
the scanner with no crops or straightening, just added the border, sig 
and resized for web.

http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html

Thanks for looking.
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Tom,

I can certainly understand your POV, and far be it from me to dissuade you.
I'd like to point out one other thing: Once the three or four lines of code
were written, there was no need to write any more code for subsequent pics,
and, had I chosen to do so, I could have set things up just to post the
pics without any code whatsoever.

Boris, I find your picture posting site just too busy, which, IMO, takes
away from a good, simple presentation which focuses on the photograph. 
Your pics - and the pics of many others on the PDML - can benefit from
better, simpler presentations.

I mentioned Godders setup for his gallery as being a good one.  While his
setup for single pics is also good in many ways, there are some other
presentations I like quite a bit.  Bruce Dayton's pics are nicely and
simply presented with a consistent format, and I can always count on being
able to concentrate on his photos rather than being distracted by
peripheral things in the presentation.  There are some other presentations
that I like as well.  Bill Robb seems to have simple and direct
presentations.

As an aside, it was Bill who showed me how easy it was to put pics up the
way I wanted them to appear, quite a few years ago ;-))

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of 
 charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of
folders.

 But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making 
 there my own very simple web page.

 Boris


 Tom C wrote:
  Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one
single 
  line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm
not 
  working. Or call me lazy.
  
  Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net
works 
  fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but
it's 
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:56 AM

 Hi Lasse,
 Sorry to read of your father's passing, condolences.

Thanks.

 20D? Flog it and get yourself a K10D - much better hardware.

Yes, the K10D is finally one Pentax digital that has seriously tempted me to 
return to Pentax.
However, there is this classic dilemma of dealing with two different brands. 
Or, deciding on the one or the other.

 Or keep your lenses and get a 1DmarkIII  :-)

Yes, I've been drooling over there too. However the monstrous and beasty 
size of it turns me off a bit. I've mostly been wanting a smaller second 
digital body...

Thanks,
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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

2007-04-10 Thread Pancho Hasselbach
Don't put the blame on the asker, you must read
stupid windows question!
Unfortunately, it's a bit tricky finding the desktop from inside a DOS 
box, but maybe from there the DEL comand might do things that are not 
possible from the GUI.

Pancho

William Robb wrote:
 Hi:
 I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
 (...)
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks
 William Robb 

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Do you own a Nikon or Canon digital camera? or a cell phone  
camera?  ]'-)

G

On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

 I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.


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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C

Yeah, like that.

Tom C.



From: Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:28:47 -0400

Ah. The GAF 64 look. :^)

http://earth.delith.com/customshouse.html



At 11:01 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100.
You know, the kind where you have to say, It looked better than
this in real life. ;-)


Tom C.

From: Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400

He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.

At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
Cool!

Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.


Tom C.

From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
And a HD-LCD.

No offence intended, John


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
C
Sent: 10. april 2007 20:03
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

OK I will, but only if it has an aperture simulator.

Tom C.


From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0200

I imagine the addvertisemnts:

YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dario Bonazza
Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

Yes, and JCO for President ;-)

$ 50 in the pot here.

Dario

- Original Message -
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


  Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
 
  I'll start the pot with um
  $35?
  My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
 
  CW
 
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  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
  Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
 
 
  What now?
  http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
 
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:38 PM

 Lasse Karlsson wrote:
I have stayed subscribed all the time, although I'm now shooting Canon 
(20D)

 Ditto - only mine is the 300D
That should be a good camera. I could do well with the 300D as well, but 
once I could afford it I decided to shell out for the more expensive 20D for 
a few added benefits, like the faster frames per second, which comes handy 
for instance when shooting sports.

But tell me (last I heard you were still shooting film, and I seem to recall 
thinking that the slower turnaround of shooting film may have suited your 
kind of shooting) - what has shooting digital meant to you and your way of 
shooting?
I still clearly remember your earliest submissions and immediately noticing 
what I thought was a Sanfedele aesthetics to them, meaning that just by a 
few submissions I thought I saw well developed artistic eye, so to speak.
Has digital worked well for you?
Does the hardware - computer etc, work like you want it to?

and haven't been posting for a really long time - a year, two years? 
However
there is still a Pentax torch glowing inside, if this expression doesn't
sound too silly in English.

 not too silly, anyway ;)  and me too, actually.

Due to lack of funds for a number of years, I haven't been able to make 
some
needed upgrades of equipment - on all levels - which has somewhat stalled
some of my plans.
After what must be considered a full and maybe fulfilled life, my father
recently passed away, at the age of 85. I am still, along with my sister,
sorting out the legal aspects that follow his passing. (My mother passed
away many years ago.)

 A difficult time -- my condolences, Lasse -

Thanks.

Anyway, since I'm doing some spring-cleaning, I'm about to get rid of some
old stuff that has been laying around or fallen into my lap. Following 
this
message I will post another and list some items just in case someone might
be interested in some creative trades or want to bid on something. (Just 
not
cause any expectations I might emphasize that there probably won't be any
real goodies from a Pentax shooter's point of view.)
Thanks,
Lasse

 I might write you off list with an offering to trade taht i can't find
 at the moment -
 in exchange for a filter or two with a 58 mm thread.

 Nice to see you, again
 Regards,
 ann

Same to you ann,

Thanks,
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 ...  the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) ...

Shel,

I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
X included TextEdit application for the cheapskates thread as what  
I normally use to write HTML.

Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.

I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.

Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
do it with good tools... ;-)

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Re: Memories of spring

2007-04-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very well done Tim, but the lower white OOF object is extremely distracting 
to me.
I like the use of backlighting.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Memories of spring


 For a couple of weeks we had very nice spring weather here. Now it is
 pouring down again. So I thought I'd better warm myself with a flower
 picture I took.
 (Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be able 
 to
 see it)

 My first macro for a long long time, so it is almost a debut ;-)
 It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens didn't produce more 
 flare.

 Pentax glass rules!
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
 K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom, 
 nothing
 fancy or dramatic.
 Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software.


 Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated ;-)


 Tim Typo
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:42 AM
 Lasse,
 Hi again, you have been quiet for a long time.

Hi Bob,

Yes, I guess I have.
I have both been busy doing other things - still shooting a great deal 
although for some time not quite as creatively as I had been planning on - 
and also the deteriorating health of my father has taken quite some time and 
energy.

 Sorry about your dad, but the time will come for all of us.

Thanks. Yes, it's inevitable and rationally speaking I and my sister have 
accepted his passing from that point of view, although there are of course 
all the thoughts and feelings that comes with it when it finally happens. I 
guess many of you know from own experiences.

 Nice to hear you are alive and well.

Yes, I am. Thank you.

Lasse 


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

You posted two galleries before the cheapskate thread, both of which used a
horizontal format.  One was the window mannequins, the other was mostly (or
completely) of trees, iirc.  I thought those were with some template that
you used.  In any case, those presentations were simple, direct, easy to
maneuver through 


Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
 X included TextEdit application for the cheapskates thread as what  
 I normally use to write HTML.

 Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
 advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
 processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
 for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
 lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
 it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.

 I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
 templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
 very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.

 Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
 do it with good tools... ;-)

 G

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
The Asahi news, (interesting name that), was reported to have a story 
that the Pentax board members who had voted against the Stock Tender 
would also vote to reject the Cash Tender.  There seems to be more than 
haggling about price here.  On the other hand everyone has their price.

Jens Bladt wrote:
 This osunds just right, Paul. They're probably just fighting over the pice
 tag :-)
 Regards
 Jens

 Jens Bladt

 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 +45 56 63 77 11
 +45 23 43 85 77
 Skype: jensbladt248

 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Paul
 Stenquist
 Sendt: 10. april 2007 18:24
 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Emne: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


 Business as usual for the time being. It's probably a good thing for
 the camera division. But I suspect Hoya will be back with another
 offer that is more attractive to the Pentax board.
 Paul
 On Apr 10, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Amita Guha wrote:

   
 What now?
 http://tinyurl.com/285gj2

 Amita

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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

2007-04-10 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 4:27 AM
 Glad to hear from you Lasse. My condolences on the passing of your
 father. I know that it has been a many year struggle for you as in
 many ways you put your own life on hold. But the struggle is worth
 it, and the end is never welcome.

Hi there Stan!
Glad to hear from you too.Thanks.

 Now go out and take some pictures of the girls!

That's an order I won't object to. And if anyone asks me why, I'll just tell 
them Stan told me to.

 If you can't find any, I know a bar in Marianham where they seem to just 
 to congregate...

Yes, occasionally I hang out there since they often have good bands for 
free.
Btw. If you recall the blonde girl tending our table, she's still around, 
but in another (newer) bar/restaurant/nightclub where I more often go.

Still traveling as often as you used to?

Thanks,
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Stratospheric Photography...

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
Consider it a test flight. Swedish University students Jörgen Hedin and 
Michael Erneland wondered what it would be like to send an ordinary digital 
camera into the stratosphere and take a picture of the scenery. So on March 
28th they launched a weather balloon with a Samsung DigiMax Pro 815 
onboard


See the photo at www.spaceweather.com for April 10.

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

2007-04-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Apparently you missed an earlier press release in which it was unequivocally 
stated that the sky is falling  it's all due to humanity's excessive use of 
pixels.

We all have to convert to film  stop immediately the use of digital 
cameras.
The sky was first noted falling over some polar bears.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


 It has not yet been determined if the sky is falling or not.  Further 
 study
 is needed to determine if there is really a sky.  If there is a sky, it 
 may
 actually be stationary and items below it are moving up relative to the 
 sky.
 Maybe the sky has already fallen aand we are living in it, unawares of our
 placement in relation to it. :-)

 I agree that they appear to have been afraid of getting axed had the 
 merger
 taken place.

 Tom C. - more below...

   TOKYO (Nikkei)--The going appears to be tough in the merger negotiations
 between Hoya Corp. (7741) and Pentax Corp. (7750).  The current deadlock
 began
 when Pentax shareholders demanded a review of the proposed stock-swap 
 ratio,
 but on a deeper level it's all about digital cameras, said a Pentax
 executive.

 Hoya CEO Hiroshi Suzuki will convene an extraordinary board meeting on
 Tuesday to change its plan for Pentax from a merger to a takeover bid.

 Pentax, meanwhile, will likely oppose Hoya's new proposal because most
 of
 its directors, including Senior Executive Officer Takashi Watanuki, who 
 will
 take the reins from outgoing President Fumio Urano, are against both a
 merger
 and tender offer.

 The negotiations were going smoothly until Suzuki said at Hoya's Jan.
 22
 briefing on its financial settlement that selling off (Pentax shares) 
 will
 be
 an option if they don't bring enough return on investment in general 
 terms.

 Hoya enjoys a high ratio of consolidated operating profit, nearly 30%,
 which cannot be attained with digital cameras.  We may not be able to
 afford
 to continue the operations, said a Pentax director.

 At the April 4 board meeting, a majority of Pentax directors opposed
 the
 merger with Hoya because the proposal poses the risk of a 'no' vote by
 shareholders due to concern about the stock-exchange ratio, said one. 
 Said
 another director, I'm against the merger, as that represents the opinion 
 of
 the employees.

 Pentax began merger negotiations with Hoya in early 2006, under
 pressure
 from a need to review its digital-camera operations.

 At the time, There was a trusting relationship between Suzuki and
 Watanuki, said an insider.  But negotiations broke down in June, due 
 mainly
 to
 a disagreement over the number of directors Pentax wanted to send to the
 merged
 firm.  Urano resumed negotiations with Suzuki and without Watanuki in the
 summer, but didn't get to specifics, said the insider.

 Under pressure from an investment fund to sell off the poorly
 performing
 digital-camera operations and concentrate on medical equipment and 
 devices,
 Urano, who wanted to keep digital-camera operations, conceded to Hoya's
 proposal that it send in three directors against Pentax's two, a plan that
 was
 announced on Dec. 21.

 Rapid technological innovation gives digital cameras a short product
 cycle, making it difficult to generate stable income over the long term.
 That
 led Konica Minolta Holdings Inc. (4902) to withdraw from the business last
 spring.

 After two consecutive years of losses in imaging systems, mainly
 consisting of digital cameras, Pentax drastically cut costs and introduced
 three new digital single-lens-reflex models last year.  It revised its
 fiscal
 2006 shipment plan upward twice, to top 300,000 units, 2.5 times its 
 volume
 for
 fiscal 2005.  The selloff proposal by the fund and the Hoya remark 
 implying
 a
 lack of commitment came as unwelcome surprises.

 Pentax developed the first made-in-Japan 35mm SLR camera in 1952, and
 has
 a special attachment to camera operations even though medical equipment
 brings
 it more profit.  The founding Matsumoto family, including former president
 Tohru Matsumoto, who led the firm for 22 years, still owns 7-8% of the
 company.
 They will likely vote against a merger or tender offer.

 While it has reduced investment in compact models to pursue quality
 over
 quantity, the future remains as uncertain for Pentax as the longer-term
 growth
 prospects of the digital SLR market.

 -- Translated from an article written by Nikkei staff writers Shimao Ojima
 and
 Soichi Inai.
 (The Nikkei Business Daily Tuesday edition)
 -0- Apr/10/2007  2:18 GMT


From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:25:02 -0400

Or more correctly, they thought the sky 

Re: PESO: SMCL

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Lacus
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8549737

aha, so this is the place where SMC Lenses are produced...

Cheers,

Peter

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
As opposed to those Velvia shots where you say, Of course this is a 
photograph not a painting. Really, telling the truth. Yes REALLY!

Tom C wrote:
 Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100. You 
 know, the kind where you have to say, It looked better than this in 
 real life. ;-)


 Tom C.


 From: Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400

 He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.

 At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
 Cool!
 
 Of course you're exaggerating slightly. The film was a hit.
 
 
 Tom C.
 
 From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
 detail. Right Tom?

 -- 

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
html ain't programming.

Tom C wrote:
 Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
 line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
 working. Or call me lazy.

 Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
 fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
 close enough for the time being.


 Tom C.


   
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700

 Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
 Photonet or other such hosts.

 Shel



 
 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
   
 I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
 their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
 commercial websites.

 That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
 use .Mac ...

 G

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 My annual subscription is coming up
 on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those
 of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
 PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading
 
 . and some folks don't seem to be able
   
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a
 single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
 and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
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