Re: Pentax Big Glass on eBay
That's was the point of my post it really wasn't obvious enough. 2007/9/26, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ah but M means miniature! Bob Blakely wrote: All reflex are M or K. There is no aperture adjustment to control. Regards, Bob... Life isn't like a box of chocolates . . it's more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] And this is a M serie? hehe :) 2007/9/25, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not giving anything away since it's a buy it now, but heres something to point to if someone says Pentax doesn't have any long lenses available. (Get you checkbooks out). http://tinyurl.com/2xyq5s -- Remember, it's pillage; then burn. -- Remember, it's pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Industrial Landscape
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/25 Tue PM 03:17:34 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Industrial Landscape That cow does not appear to be a cow. That sentence gives me the horn. I can't think of an udder thing to say. Well, you usually milk something for al its worth... Bull. Don't you heifer say that again. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking of AF280T flash
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/25 Tue PM 03:22:29 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Thinking of AF280T flash My Nikon SB15 lit the flash ready signal on Nikon FM/FE bodies way back in the 1970s. Lighting the flash ready signal is not the same as responding to the body's flash control protocol for Flash EV Compensation, setting the exposure time and lens opening automatically, allowing HSS, etc, that are what a dedicated flash unit would imply. What Bill was looking for was a flash that would do those dedicated features while using its in-built Auto Flash sensor system, bypassing the P-TTL flash metering. As I said, I was using Pentax's definition. It's not how I, or most others, would define it. Perhaps the Metz units will do that with the right SCA module, but I haven't seen any proof of that yet. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: darkroom ventilation
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/25 Tue PM 04:17:48 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: darkroom ventilation Hey, gang! To those of you who have or have had a dedicated darkroom, how is/was it ventilated? The darkroom plans are coming along, but I'm stuck on vent placement and whether I should include a fan blowing in, as well. Currently, I'm thinking about an exhaust fan at about chest level, centered on the wall over the sink. Do you think another fan blowing into the room might help cut down on dust by providing some positive pressure? Quite the opposite, unless it's filtered. Filtering is the key - it's quite astonishing how much crap even the simplest screen will pick up over a few hours. I would try to seal the room as much as possible except for a specific ingress point, where I would have a thick foam filter. Wash the foam every couple of hours' use. FWIW, the room will be 8x8, in the basement, with a galley-style layout - a wet side opposite a dry side with space down the middle from the door to the opposite wall. Thanks a lot, and much appreciated. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Cult of Leica
Don't you think they a cooperating jsut a little? I mean, Pentaxes aren'tt just rebadged Samsungs, are they? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. september 2007 21:07 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: The Cult of Leica Leica PS cameras. Aren't they just re-badged Panasonics? Jim A. Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica PS that is 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about 500.00 and looked/felt pretty spiffy. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 09/20/2007 12:07 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
I'm never embarrassed to show up with my Pentaxes. I mean - it's the pictures that count. People who know me and my work respect me, no matter what camera brand I show up with. I don't need the acknowledgement that comes from just my choice of camera brand. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jack Davis Sendt: 18. september 2007 20:03 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Do you suppose this could lead to a Pentax being considered a PRO camera? One that you would carry with a swagger, proudly exposed and without embarrassment? :/ WOW! Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - your'e converting over to what Herb, Rob Studdert and myself have been saying for the past 2 - 3 years. :-) Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:19:27 -0400 (EDT) 0Joseph Tainter wrote: But it's got to be said they seem to be undervaluing their products. I was quite surprised when the price of the K10D was announced (I was willing to spend more), I'm surprised at how relatively cheap the DA* lenses compared to ther NC equivalents. Obviously their making a profit, but I'm sure it's not as big as it could be. It looks like the Hoya plan makes sense and that they are going to try to try to raise the price and perceived value of their products. They undoubtedly realize that one of the keys to getting people to buy your affordable products is providing a higher end product for people to aspire to -- even though most will never buy it, they like to know they *can*; that it's out there. There's also the prestige by association effect that Cotty has mentioned in the past: People want the name badge on their camera to be the same as [fill in prestigious item you can't afford here] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ __ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 09/18/2007 11:53 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SV: The Cult of Leica
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed AM 01:14:31 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: SV: The Cult of Leica Bill, I'm pretty sure Godders was talking about Panasonic, not Fuji. I knew that. I was just testing. Bet you weren't testing tea. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Diaphanous
Nice. Good tonality, and I like the receding DOF. I might crop out a bit of the top and right side background. Paul On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:53 AM, Gonz wrote: Love the gradient from one corner to the other. I like it. I love the title. ;) On 9/25/07, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, another picture of the little rug rat. Title courtesy of my father :) http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C- i05p28o#5114307944771333234 comments and critiques welcome rg2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Diaphanous
On 9/26/07, List Guy wrote: to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Mark! I have honestly missed the old Un-subscribe message stuff ups. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Processing very old color movie film?
From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed AM 03:02:57 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Processing very old color movie film? From: mike wilson If it is Kodachrome, there is a Swiss lab still processing it. You would only pay the standard charge. Not sure if it deals with the USA but there are ways round that The Swiss lab is no more. It's just a mail drop. Film sent to the Swiss lab is forwarded to Dwaynes in Kansas, USA for processing. I didn't see that announcement. Looks like it is time to finish off the stock. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attention AOL users
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed AM 02:19:19 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Attention AOL users How the hell can AOL complain that anyone is sending spam. At one time most of the spam I got came from AOL. (Then there was the stuff that AOL didn't generate that came from AOL subscribers. It's not AOL. It's AOL users. Big difference. One is a bunch of useless plonkers fiddling about with computers. The other.. Forget I said anything. Doug Brewer wrote: I've just gotten a message from the PDML hosting company that they've received numerous complaints from AOL users that the PDML list traffic is spam. insert lengthy and profane diatribe about AOL here So here's the deal: IF you are an AOL user who has subscribed to the PDML, and IF you no longer wish to receive PDML list traffic, you can click on the list info link at the bottom of each and every message, and about two thirds of the way down the page you will find a section entitled. PDML Subscribers and a little farther down you'll see this: To unsubscribe from PDML, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address: after which you enter your email address and click on the button that says Unsubscribe or edit options. That will take you, oddly enough, to the Unsubscribe or edit options page, upon which you can unsubscribe, change your email address, check you password, etc. Now, IF you decide you want to unsubscribe from the PDML, you can do so, but you have to tell the web interface that you want to, and then you have to confirm it by checking a little box. And it will happen. Poof. Incidentally, these instructions will work for others as well, but since the threat to shut down the PDML from the hosting company came about because of AOL users, well... And Marnie, clean out your mailbox. XOXO Doug -- Remember, it?s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New computer
I do not understand what is going on here. The origonal post I made was first posted a few months ago I believe. Now, yesterday, the post and the initial responses showed up again on the list ? Webmaster ??? Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Sidewalk Tango
I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sightlines
On 9/25/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have only one request - make 'em slightly bigger next time. They're too small... But you're good and you know that already ;-). Thanks, Boris, and to everyone else who commented on this one. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Cult of Leica
No, but with the exception of the GX10, Samsung's are just rebadged Pentaxes. The differences between the Leica and Panasonic digitals is software only. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: Don't you think they a cooperating jsut a little? I mean, Pentaxes aren'tt just rebadged Samsungs, are they? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. september 2007 21:07 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: The Cult of Leica Leica PS cameras. Aren't they just re-badged Panasonics? Jim A. Speaking of Leica, has anyone looked at/tried the latest Leica PS that is 10 megpxl? I was looking at one the other day and it was priced at about 500.00 and looked/felt pretty spiffy. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 09/20/2007 12:07 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: No boats
Yeah, it bugs me too but it was a quick snap while my kids were running at full speed towards where the water actually was... This, like most other lakes in Georgia is a man-made lake managed by the Army Corps of Engineers. By the end of the summer, it's usually down by several feet from full pool but this year has been especially dry so it WAY down. CW - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: Re: PESO: No boats Cory, the sign is hilarious. However photographically speaking, the all blurred foreground is giving me headache, almost making me feel dizzy, you know... Boris cbwaters wrote: I know you lot like a good goofy sign shot so I just couldn't resist this one... http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835#199966144-L-LB Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
;) lol! I don't own a camera bag, actually, I just run around with my camera, a roll of film inside, and my other lens in a case with a strap. Maybe another roll of film in my pocket. Simple is good. rg2 On 9/26/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Rebekah wrote: Why do you need a ~huge~ photo bag? film. ;) Hmm. I'm using the same Domke F5XB bag I used to carry my Nikon FM and Leica M6 in... Camera, two/three lenses, and a half dozen rolls of film fit without too much problem. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sightlines
On 9/25/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intersting shot - they don't look real... look like maniquins -- nice geometry -- I think I know where you took that but I forgot its name. Yeah, they do have a mannequin-like look to them, eh? It was taken at Toronto's Eaton Centre, Ann. I'm sure you've been there. It's the one with the Canada Geese flying up by the roof... Thanks for commenting! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: No boats
On 9/24/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you lot like a good goofy sign shot so I just couldn't resist this one... http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835#199966144-L-LB The question is: Are they trying to warn us that there are boats in them thar woods and we should keep out for our own safety, or they warning boats to keep out of the forest? Perhaps they're missing punctuation. Funny shot, Cory. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Processing very old color movie film?
mike wilson wrote: From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Swiss lab is no more. It's just a mail drop. Film sent to the Swiss lab is forwarded to Dwaynes in Kansas, USA for processing. I didn't see that announcement. It was brought up on the list last year, IIRC. Looks like it is time to finish off the stock. Do you mean Kodachrome film stock or Kodak corporate stock? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Industrial Landscape
On 9/24/07, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been quite busy, lately, among other things with a small series of enablements for capturing audio to go with my photographs. More on that later. Here's one I took on Sunday in Belgium: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/10325452 As always, your comments and suggestions... :-) I like it. Not as dramatic as some of your Big Industrial Pictures, but it subtlely says something. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy it ... they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer
Walter Hamler wrote: I do not understand what is going on here. The origonal post I made was first posted a few months ago I believe. Now, yesterday, the post and the initial responses showed up again on the list ? Webmaster ??? I wouldn't worry about it. It's almost certainly not anything you did. Every once in a while the Internet mail system gets a case of the hiccups and things like that happen. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - The Cabbagetown Blues
On 9/24/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both good, but the first is excellent. In the 2nd the singer is too aware of the camera and that kind spoils it a bit. Thanks, Bob. You seem to be in the majority in preferring the first, and I agree with all of you in your assesments Thanks to everyone who commented! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
Great grab! They look so sweet :o) rg2 On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SV: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
Seriously, neither do I!! Jack --- Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm never embarrassed to show up with my Pentaxes. I mean - it's the pictures that count. People who know me and my work respect me, no matter what camera brand I show up with. I don't need the acknowledgement that comes from just my choice of camera brand. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jack Davis Sendt: 18. september 2007 20:03 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Do you suppose this could lead to a Pentax being considered a PRO camera? One that you would carry with a swagger, proudly exposed and without embarrassment? :/ WOW! Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - your'e converting over to what Herb, Rob Studdert and myself have been saying for the past 2 - 3 years. :-) Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:19:27 -0400 (EDT) 0Joseph Tainter wrote: But it's got to be said they seem to be undervaluing their products. I was quite surprised when the price of the K10D was announced (I was willing to spend more), I'm surprised at how relatively cheap the DA* lenses compared to ther NC equivalents. Obviously their making a profit, but I'm sure it's not as big as it could be. It looks like the Hoya plan makes sense and that they are going to try to try to raise the price and perceived value of their products. They undoubtedly realize that one of the keys to getting people to buy your affordable products is providing a higher end product for people to aspire to -- even though most will never buy it, they like to know they *can*; that it's out there. There's also the prestige by association effect that Cotty has mentioned in the past: People want the name badge on their camera to be the same as [fill in prestigious item you can't afford here] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ __ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 09/18/2007 11:53 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gourds
On 9/24/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another seasonal pic: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6457664size=lg Shades of autumnal splendor! Lovely, Paul. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
Looks like they should have been watching where they were going. 8-O Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking of AF280T flash
Thanks Bill, I knew there was something more involved here but I couldn't verbalize it with the limited mental resources I allotted for the task. CW - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Thinking of AF280T flash - Original Message - From: Axel Belinfante Subject: Re: Thinking of AF280T flash I guess the bottom line is that dedicated by itself is an empty phrase. dedicated is not an absolute notion, but a relative one. it is relative to a (family) of camera body(s). Dedicated is an absolute term, and means that the flash will communicate with the camera body to set the shutter speed and aperture (in the case of programmed exposure cameras). This is by no means an empty phrase, though you probably would have needed to be around the camera industry 25 or so years ago to know what the original meaning was. A manual flash is a single output unit which only communicates output triggering with the camera. An auto flash is a variable output unit which only communicates output triggering with the camera. A dedicated flash communicates shutter speed and aperture setting information with the camera, and causes the camera to set the shutter speed to X-sync and sets the aperture to match the flash output range. A TTL flash communicates flash output with the camera for the purpose of regulating output. A dedicated TTL flash communicates shutter speed and aperture setting information with the camera to set the shutter speed to X-sync and sets the aperture to match the flash output range and communicates flash output with the camera for the purpose of regulating output. Recently, as cameras have thunderbirded, and morphed into lens based computer systems, the method of communication had changed, but the principles haven't changed all that much. Now you know. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Diaphanous
On 9/25/07, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, another picture of the little rug rat. Title courtesy of my father :) http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5114307944771333234 comments and critiques welcome That's a hell of a title, and a hell of a photo. Love the dof! Gorgeous shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
Very nice. A special moment, well captured. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great grab! They look so sweet :o) rg2 On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/ sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Go with the Nikon. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:21:46 -0400 You change the 1s and 0s in a dslr into prints the same way you change the 1s and 0s in a scanned negative or slide into prints, just without the scanner. Personally if I had a darkroom I'd shoot more BW film and go directly to a silver print, (I think Tri-X was my first real love), but baring that color printing, (and BW conversions), with a decent printer reasonable software and a large sensor, (OK so 24mmX16mm isn't exactly huge, but it's much bigger than the vast majority of sensor sizes), is the best way to get reasonable quality and maintain control. Glen Tortorella wrote: What a timely post, Larry! While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? I welcome any and all advice or commentary :-) Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Larry Levy wrote: Chris Roberts, in his Digital SLR Guide News has selected the K100D as best begommer budget DSLR Question: What's the best beginner budget SLR? Answer You've been longing to improve the quality of the photos you take and capture moments that just aren't possible with a compact point-and- shoot, but you find the price of digital SLR cameras extreme. I'm not surprised - back in the heyday of the film SLR, it often seemed silly to spend $300 on a camera when you could get a simple compact camera for less than $100. Now that the minimum price for a digital SLR is right around $500, it makes them pretty expensive investments. I firmly believe that the additional cost is justified when you take into account the fact that digital SLRs are able to capture a wider variety of shots than compact cameras. It's why the SLR has been the choice of professional photographers for years. Why tell you this? It will put my answer to the question above into some perspective. Right now, I think that the best digital SLR camera for a beginner on a budget is the Pentax K100D. Recently replaced by the K100D Super, the original K100D has benefitted from a price drop that makes it significantly more affordable. The Pentax K100D is the least expensive camera you can buy that also includes built-in image stabilization. This feature oscillates the camera's sensor to counteract the effect of camera motion on your photos. While you can't really see camera motion when you're using fast shutter speeds with plenty of light, dim lighting and slow shutter speeds can lead to a lot of blurry shots. Since the image stabilization is built into the camera itself, it works with every Pentax lens that's compatible with the K100D. In addition to image stabilization, the 6 megapixel sensor offers plenty for anyone who doesn't want to print at sizes larger than 11x14 inches. The compact frame can be made even more so if you can get your hands on one of the specialized Pentax pancake lenses. These lenses don't stick out far from the camera, making the K100D a portable option for those who like to travel. Finally, the K100D runs on regular old AA batteries, which works well if you're one of those types who always forgets to re-charge batteries before a photo outing (many other cameras use special Lithium Ion rechargeable batteries that take about 2-3 hours to reach a full charge). You can pick up a K100D for less than $500 with a lens, and for less than $400 without a lens. This second option works well if you already have some Pentax lenses from a film SLR camera, or know of a local camera swap where you can pick up some used Pentax lenses without paying full price. Larry in Dallas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, its pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
On Sep 26, 2007, at 7:27, frank theriault wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/ BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Love it! Nice capture, and I love how you managed to frame it so that there isn't much else around them. Did you have much time to see this and set up your shot, or was this a quick swing-it-up-to-your-eye-and-hit-the-trigger kind of shot? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: SV: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Seriously, neither do I!! Jack --- Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm never embarrassed to show up with my Pentaxes. I mean - it's the pictures that count. People who know me and my work respect me, no matter what camera brand I show up with. I don't need the acknowledgement that comes from just my choice of camera brand. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jack Davis Sendt: 18. september 2007 20:03 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Do you suppose this could lead to a Pentax being considered a PRO camera? One that you would carry with a swagger, proudly exposed and without embarrassment? :/ WOW! Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - your'e converting over to what Herb, Rob Studdert and myself have been saying for the past 2 - 3 years. :-) Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:19:27 -0400 (EDT) 0Joseph Tainter wrote: But it's got to be said they seem to be undervaluing their products. I was quite surprised when the price of the K10D was announced (I was willing to spend more), I'm surprised at how relatively cheap the DA* lenses compared to ther NC equivalents. Obviously their making a profit, but I'm sure it's not as big as it could be. It looks like the Hoya plan makes sense and that they are going to try to try to raise the price and perceived value of their products. They undoubtedly realize that one of the keys to getting people to buy your affordable products is providing a higher end product for people to aspire to -- even though most will never buy it, they like to know they *can*; that it's out there. There's also the prestige by association effect that Cotty has mentioned in the past: People want the name badge on their camera to be the same as [fill in prestigious item you can't afford here] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ __ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 09/18/2007 11:53 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer
Welcome to the Internet. Walter Hamler wrote: I do not understand what is going on here. The origonal post I made was first posted a few months ago I believe. Now, yesterday, the post and the initial responses showed up again on the list ? Webmaster ??? Walt -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:27 AM, frank theriault wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
I still think Frank is paying these people to pose for him... Rebekah wrote: Great grab! They look so sweet :o) rg2 On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:16:04 -0700 Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. Doesn't anyone try to research things for themselves anymore? Wikipedia? Been near a minilab or walked past a photo kiosk lately? :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking of AF280T flash
On 9/26/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew there was something more involved here but I couldn't verbalize it with the limited mental resources I allotted for the task. LOL Mark! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 12:27:18 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Sidewalk Tango I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. Who lives better than you Canadians? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
I don't know how you're getting these random people to cooperate to make great street shots, are you sure you're not paying them? frank theriault wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
What??? Tom C wrote: Go with the Nikon. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:21:46 -0400 You change the 1s and 0s in a dslr into prints the same way you change the 1s and 0s in a scanned negative or slide into prints, just without the scanner. Personally if I had a darkroom I'd shoot more BW film and go directly to a silver print, (I think Tri-X was my first real love), but baring that color printing, (and BW conversions), with a decent printer reasonable software and a large sensor, (OK so 24mmX16mm isn't exactly huge, but it's much bigger than the vast majority of sensor sizes), is the best way to get reasonable quality and maintain control. Glen Tortorella wrote: What a timely post, Larry! While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? I welcome any and all advice or commentary :-) Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Larry Levy wrote: Chris Roberts, in his Digital SLR Guide News has selected the K100D as best begommer budget DSLR Question: What's the best beginner budget SLR? Answer You've been longing to improve the quality of the photos you take and capture moments that just aren't possible with a compact point-and- shoot, but you find the price of digital SLR cameras extreme. I'm not surprised - back in the heyday of the film SLR, it often seemed silly to spend $300 on a camera when you could get a simple compact camera for less than $100. Now that the minimum price for a digital SLR is right around $500, it makes them pretty expensive investments. I firmly believe that the additional cost is justified when you take into account the fact that digital SLRs are able to capture a wider variety of shots than compact cameras. It's why the SLR has been the choice of professional photographers for years. Why tell you this? It will put my answer to the question above into some perspective. Right now, I think that the best digital SLR camera for a beginner on a budget is the Pentax K100D. Recently replaced by the K100D Super, the original K100D has benefitted from a price drop that makes it significantly more affordable. The Pentax K100D is the least expensive camera you can buy that also includes built-in image stabilization. This feature oscillates the camera's sensor to counteract the effect of camera motion on your photos. While you can't really see camera motion when you're using fast shutter speeds with plenty of light, dim lighting and slow shutter speeds can lead to a lot of blurry shots. Since the image stabilization is built into the camera itself, it works with every Pentax lens that's compatible with the K100D. In addition to image stabilization, the 6 megapixel sensor offers plenty for anyone who doesn't want to print at sizes larger than 11x14 inches. The compact frame can be made even more so if you can get your hands on one of the specialized Pentax pancake lenses. These lenses don't stick out far from the camera, making the K100D a portable option for those who like to travel. Finally, the K100D runs on regular old AA batteries, which works well if you're one of those types who always forgets to re-charge batteries before a photo outing (many other cameras use special Lithium Ion rechargeable batteries that take about 2-3 hours to reach a full charge). You can pick up a K100D for less than $500 with a lens, and for less than $400 without a lens. This second option works well if you already have some Pentax lenses from a film SLR camera, or know of a local camera swap where you can pick up some used Pentax lenses without paying full price. Larry in Dallas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy it ... they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Why not? Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:14:00 -0400 What??? Tom C wrote: Go with the Nikon. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:21:46 -0400 You change the 1s and 0s in a dslr into prints the same way you change the 1s and 0s in a scanned negative or slide into prints, just without the scanner. Personally if I had a darkroom I'd shoot more BW film and go directly to a silver print, (I think Tri-X was my first real love), but baring that color printing, (and BW conversions), with a decent printer reasonable software and a large sensor, (OK so 24mmX16mm isn't exactly huge, but it's much bigger than the vast majority of sensor sizes), is the best way to get reasonable quality and maintain control. Glen Tortorella wrote: What a timely post, Larry! While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? I welcome any and all advice or commentary :-) Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Larry Levy wrote: Chris Roberts, in his Digital SLR Guide News has selected the K100D as best begommer budget DSLR Question: What's the best beginner budget SLR? Answer You've been longing to improve the quality of the photos you take and capture moments that just aren't possible with a compact point-and- shoot, but you find the price of digital SLR cameras extreme. I'm not surprised - back in the heyday of the film SLR, it often seemed silly to spend $300 on a camera when you could get a simple compact camera for less than $100. Now that the minimum price for a digital SLR is right around $500, it makes them pretty expensive investments. I firmly believe that the additional cost is justified when you take into account the fact that digital SLRs are able to capture a wider variety of shots than compact cameras. It's why the SLR has been the choice of professional photographers for years. Why tell you this? It will put my answer to the question above into some perspective. Right now, I think that the best digital SLR camera for a beginner on a budget is the Pentax K100D. Recently replaced by the K100D Super, the original K100D has benefitted from a price drop that makes it significantly more affordable. The Pentax K100D is the least expensive camera you can buy that also includes built-in image stabilization. This feature oscillates the camera's sensor to counteract the effect of camera motion on your photos. While you can't really see camera motion when you're using fast shutter speeds with plenty of light, dim lighting and slow shutter speeds can lead to a lot of blurry shots. Since the image stabilization is built into the camera itself, it works with every Pentax lens that's compatible with the K100D. In addition to image stabilization, the 6 megapixel sensor offers plenty for anyone who doesn't want to print at sizes larger than 11x14 inches. The compact frame can be made even more so if you can get your hands on one of the specialized Pentax pancake lenses. These lenses don't stick out far from the camera, making the K100D a portable option for those who like to travel. Finally, the K100D runs on regular old AA batteries, which works well if you're one of those types who always forgets to re-charge batteries before a photo outing (many other cameras use special Lithium Ion rechargeable batteries that take about 2-3 hours to reach a full charge). You can pick up a K100D for less than $500 with a lens, and for less than $400 without a lens. This second option works well if you already have some Pentax lenses from a film SLR camera, or know of a local camera swap where you can pick up some used Pentax lenses without paying full price. Larry in Dallas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, its pillage then burn. --
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Since whoever put the sensor into the camera body is beside the point of my statement, I'm just a bit nonplussed. (Which sounds a awkward now that I read it but what the heck). Tom C wrote: Why not? Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:14:00 -0400 What??? Tom C wrote: Go with the Nikon. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:21:46 -0400 You change the 1s and 0s in a dslr into prints the same way you change the 1s and 0s in a scanned negative or slide into prints, just without the scanner. Personally if I had a darkroom I'd shoot more BW film and go directly to a silver print, (I think Tri-X was my first real love), but baring that color printing, (and BW conversions), with a decent printer reasonable software and a large sensor, (OK so 24mmX16mm isn't exactly huge, but it's much bigger than the vast majority of sensor sizes), is the best way to get reasonable quality and maintain control. Glen Tortorella wrote: What a timely post, Larry! While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? I welcome any and all advice or commentary :-) Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Larry Levy wrote: Chris Roberts, in his Digital SLR Guide News has selected the K100D as best begommer budget DSLR Question: What's the best beginner budget SLR? Answer You've been longing to improve the quality of the photos you take and capture moments that just aren't possible with a compact point-and- shoot, but you find the price of digital SLR cameras extreme. I'm not surprised - back in the heyday of the film SLR, it often seemed silly to spend $300 on a camera when you could get a simple compact camera for less than $100. Now that the minimum price for a digital SLR is right around $500, it makes them pretty expensive investments. I firmly believe that the additional cost is justified when you take into account the fact that digital SLRs are able to capture a wider variety of shots than compact cameras. It's why the SLR has been the choice of professional photographers for years. Why tell you this? It will put my answer to the question above into some perspective. Right now, I think that the best digital SLR camera for a beginner on a budget is the Pentax K100D. Recently replaced by the K100D Super, the original K100D has benefitted from a price drop that makes it significantly more affordable. The Pentax K100D is the least expensive camera you can buy that also includes built-in image stabilization. This feature oscillates the camera's sensor to counteract the effect of camera motion on your photos. While you can't really see camera motion when you're using fast shutter speeds with plenty of light, dim lighting and slow shutter speeds can lead to a lot of blurry shots. Since the image stabilization is built into the camera itself, it works with every Pentax lens that's compatible with the K100D. In addition to image stabilization, the 6 megapixel sensor offers plenty for anyone who doesn't want to print at sizes larger than 11x14 inches. The compact frame can be made even more so if you can get your hands on one of the specialized Pentax pancake lenses. These lenses don't stick out far from the camera, making the K100D a portable option for those who like to travel. Finally, the K100D runs on regular old AA batteries, which works well if you're one of those types who always forgets to re-charge batteries before a photo outing (many other cameras use special Lithium Ion rechargeable batteries that take about 2-3 hours to reach a full charge). You can pick up a K100D for less than $500 with a lens, and for less than $400 without a lens. This second option works well if
Re: OT - Pythonesque 2
On 9/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first amendment: Congress shall make no law... or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. This doesn't seem to cover meetings held on private property where the owners can have idiots ejected or arrested for trespass, simply by revoking their permission for said idiot to be there. Secondly he didn't seem to petitioning the government, just badgering a public official. The fact that the cops who were called by the management over reacted is not per se a violation of the idiots freedom of speech, certainly not by congress, or the state government, .though he may have basis for an action against those police officers for battery. Private property? That appears to be a school (funded by taxpayers) or a church (exempt from paying taxes and as such state funded) or a town hall. No matter what it is, I'd say they're in a public or pseudo-public space, and in any event it's surely a meeting to which the general public was invited. What those cops (or security people, or whoever those goons were) did was ~absolutely~ a violation of his freedom of speech, right to assemble, etc. The question would be, were the capitalist stormtroopers acting as authorized agents of the state, or did they go beyond the scope of their jurisdiction to the point that their actions do not constitute state intervention, thus rendering them solely liable for their inexcusable actions? If they were private rent-a-cops, they and their employers will be liable for (at the very least) assault and battery, if they were real cops, there could be a whole bevy of constitutional actions that could arise from this. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: manual (out of) focus(ing) zoom lenses...
I had a problem with my istD and A50 lens this past spring, focusing indoors in a church poorly lit, going for natural light shots, no flash.. I went with my eye, not the focus confirmation beep. Just about every one back focused. I quess the beep was better. To bad my 77 Ltd showed up 5 days later, i could have used it then. Dave On 9/25/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 September 2007 20:53, Axel Belinfante wrote: picking up (d)slr again after some 5 years of mostly point and shoot, and trying to focus manually, I notice that I easily end up with out of focus shots unless I first zoom to longest focal length, focus, and zoom back. I don't recall doing that 5 years ago when I only had Z1 -- (but maybe I did?) I'm aware that with k10d out-of-focus is easy to spot thanks to on-camera zoom-in lcd, but whether that explains it all? Axel - kind of confused. I never did that with any camera. Do you have this problem with all your cameras? -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? WHAT When did that happen? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attention AOL users
P. J. Alling wrote: How the hell can AOL complain that anyone is sending spam. At one time most of the spam I got came from AOL. (Then there was the stuff that AOL didn't generate that came from AOL subscribers. HA! Ok, in the past AOL sucked in the anti-spam arena. Today... Well it's a whole different story. We receive about ~3 billion emails a day. ~1.5 billion are dropped at the gateways and never see in-boxes. another 750 million are tagged as spam and members don't see them unless they want to, and another 700 million or so are delivered to inboxes. We've prosecuted spammers and sent at least one to jail. Our spam-fighting filters and tools are probably the best in the industry. And I don't say that because I work in the anti-spam organization, I say it because I believe it after seeing it first hand. :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
At last. Solid, direct, simple advice. Possibly wrong, but who's counting for accuracy? ];-) G On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Tom C wrote: Go with the Nikon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
Well Volvo was purchased by Ford. RollsRoyce by BMW. However, Volvos are still Volvos. Well, as long as it's not SONY, Phillips or Samsung... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af David Savage Sendt: 26. september 2007 16:30 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? WHAT When did that happen? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attention AOL users
mike wilson wrote: It's not AOL. It's AOL users. Big difference. One is a bunch of useless plonkers fiddling about with computers. The other.. Forget I said anything. Well they pay this useless plonker pretty well to fiddle with computers... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
It's hard to say what camera is the right way to go for someone buying a first DSLR. Personally the Nikons and Canons feel more responsive (especially AF) when I handle them. It's still to early to know where Pentax is heading under Hoya's wing. Both Pentax and Canon of course have announced and are releasing or released new mid and high end models. Nothing new from Pentax yet, though it could hardly be expected. At this point in time I'd say if one was going to buy a Pentax DSLR, and unless budget was the major issue, go with the K10D. At around $649, it's half what a *ist D cost brand new, and it will not get long in the tooth quite as fast as the 6MP models, which is why they're about ready to start including free coupons for them in boxes of Cracker Jack. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:35:30 -0400 Since whoever put the sensor into the camera body is beside the point of my statement, I'm just a bit nonplussed. (Which sounds a awkward now that I read it but what the heck). Tom C wrote: Why not? Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:14:00 -0400 What??? Tom C wrote: Go with the Nikon. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:21:46 -0400 You change the 1s and 0s in a dslr into prints the same way you change the 1s and 0s in a scanned negative or slide into prints, just without the scanner. Personally if I had a darkroom I'd shoot more BW film and go directly to a silver print, (I think Tri-X was my first real love), but baring that color printing, (and BW conversions), with a decent printer reasonable software and a large sensor, (OK so 24mmX16mm isn't exactly huge, but it's much bigger than the vast majority of sensor sizes), is the best way to get reasonable quality and maintain control. Glen Tortorella wrote: What a timely post, Larry! While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? I welcome any and all advice or commentary :-) Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Larry Levy wrote: Chris Roberts, in his Digital SLR Guide News has selected the K100D as best begommer budget DSLR Question: What's the best beginner budget SLR? Answer You've been longing to improve the quality of the photos you take and capture moments that just aren't possible with a compact point-and- shoot, but you find the price of digital SLR cameras extreme. I'm not surprised - back in the heyday of the film SLR, it often seemed silly to spend $300 on a camera when you could get a simple compact camera for less than $100. Now that the minimum price for a digital SLR is right around $500, it makes them pretty expensive investments. I firmly believe that the additional cost is justified when you take into account the fact that digital SLRs are able to capture a wider variety of shots than compact cameras. It's why the SLR has been the choice of professional photographers for years. Why tell you this? It will put my answer to the question above into some perspective. Right now, I think that the best digital SLR camera for a beginner on a budget is the Pentax K100D. Recently replaced by the K100D Super, the original K100D has benefitted from a price drop that makes it significantly more affordable. The Pentax K100D is the least expensive camera you can buy that also includes built-in image stabilization. This feature oscillates the camera's sensor to counteract the effect of camera motion on your photos. While you can't really see camera motion when you're using fast shutter speeds with plenty of light, dim lighting and slow shutter speeds can lead to a lot of blurry shots.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
There's really no right or wrong. If one waits 6 months a K10D will probably cost under $600. Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:51:21 -0700 At last. Solid, direct, simple advice. Possibly wrong, but who's counting for accuracy? ];-) G On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Tom C wrote: Go with the Nikon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Processing very old color movie film?
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 12:48:48 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Processing very old color movie film? mike wilson wrote: From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Swiss lab is no more. It's just a mail drop. Film sent to the Swiss lab is forwarded to Dwaynes in Kansas, USA for processing. I didn't see that announcement. It was brought up on the list last year, IIRC. Looks like it is time to finish off the stock. Do you mean Kodachrome film stock or Kodak corporate stock? ;-) _That_ would be a difficult question to answer, were I in the postion of needing to do so - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? WHAT When did that happen? Cheers, Dave Hoya bought them for the endoscope business. As they say, hindsight is better than foresight. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
Well SAAB was purchased, by GM and SAABs are now OPELs, very expensive OPELs, but still OPELs Jens Bladt wrote: Well Volvo was purchased by Ford. RollsRoyce by BMW. However, Volvos are still Volvos. Well, as long as it's not SONY, Phillips or Samsung... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af David Savage Sendt: 26. september 2007 16:30 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? WHAT When did that happen? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: How much do you sell your prints for?
Sorry, never sell prints, just the rights to print af an image file. Normally I charge 56 USD for publishing purposes (internet OR magazines, papers etc.) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Norm Baugher Sendt: 19. september 2007 18:25 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: How much do you sell your prints for? 8'x10 ; 11x14 RC paper. Norm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 09/20/2007 12:07 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Tom, I'm guessing you haven't used the K100D or D50. The K100D's AF is distinctly faster than the D50 or D40's AF. Camera operations about as responsive between the two cameras, but the rear LCD UI is less responsive than the Nikons. -Adam Tom C wrote: It's hard to say what camera is the right way to go for someone buying a first DSLR. Personally the Nikons and Canons feel more responsive (especially AF) when I handle them. It's still to early to know where Pentax is heading under Hoya's wing. Both Pentax and Canon of course have announced and are releasing or released new mid and high end models. Nothing new from Pentax yet, though it could hardly be expected. At this point in time I'd say if one was going to buy a Pentax DSLR, and unless budget was the major issue, go with the K10D. At around $649, it's half what a *ist D cost brand new, and it will not get long in the tooth quite as fast as the 6MP models, which is why they're about ready to start including free coupons for them in boxes of Cracker Jack. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:35:30 -0400 Since whoever put the sensor into the camera body is beside the point of my statement, I'm just a bit nonplussed. (Which sounds a awkward now that I read it but what the heck). Tom C wrote: Why not? Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:14:00 -0400 What??? Tom C wrote: Go with the Nikon. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:21:46 -0400 You change the 1s and 0s in a dslr into prints the same way you change the 1s and 0s in a scanned negative or slide into prints, just without the scanner. Personally if I had a darkroom I'd shoot more BW film and go directly to a silver print, (I think Tri-X was my first real love), but baring that color printing, (and BW conversions), with a decent printer reasonable software and a large sensor, (OK so 24mmX16mm isn't exactly huge, but it's much bigger than the vast majority of sensor sizes), is the best way to get reasonable quality and maintain control. Glen Tortorella wrote: What a timely post, Larry! While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? I welcome any and all advice or commentary :-) Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Larry Levy wrote: Chris Roberts, in his Digital SLR Guide News has selected the K100D as best begommer budget DSLR Question: What's the best beginner budget SLR? Answer You've been longing to improve the quality of the photos you take and capture moments that just aren't possible with a compact point-and- shoot, but you find the price of digital SLR cameras extreme. I'm not surprised - back in the heyday of the film SLR, it often seemed silly to spend $300 on a camera when you could get a simple compact camera for less than $100. Now that the minimum price for a digital SLR is right around $500, it makes them pretty expensive investments. I firmly believe that the additional cost is justified when you take into account the fact that digital SLRs are able to capture a wider variety of shots than compact cameras. It's why the SLR has been the choice of professional photographers for years. Why tell you this? It will put my answer to the question above into some perspective. Right now, I think that the best digital SLR camera for a beginner on a budget is the Pentax K100D. Recently replaced by the K100D Super, the original K100D has benefitted from a price drop that makes it significantly more affordable. The Pentax
Re: OT - Pythonesque 2
Churches and schools, even publicly funded schools are considered private property under most if not all state laws. I know that may seem strange but it's true. They are not public space such as a public street public sidewalk or Town Square. There are exceptions, here in New England, if you live in a town with town meeting government, and the school auditorium is used for the meeting, or really small places where the town meeting house might double as the church, for that time, it is public space, but even then you are under Roberts Rules of Order, and if you attempt to disrupt the meeting you can be ejected and arrested. He was being a nuisance, then trespassing, and creating a disturbance, and eventually resisting arrest. (It's amazing how quickly being a nuisance can become resisting arrest). The only absolute right you have to freedom of speech is in the public square, truly public property, (town or city hall, meeting rooms etc.), and on your own property, and even there you're not allowed to force people to listen to you, if you try to force them that can actually be construed as assault, kidnapping or worse, you should know that. There may be attempts at constitutional actions but no judge in his right mind should allow them to arise in his or her court. frank theriault wrote: On 9/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first amendment: Congress shall make no law... or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. This doesn't seem to cover meetings held on private property where the owners can have idiots ejected or arrested for trespass, simply by revoking their permission for said idiot to be there. Secondly he didn't seem to petitioning the government, just badgering a public official. The fact that the cops who were called by the management over reacted is not per se a violation of the idiots freedom of speech, certainly not by congress, or the state government, .though he may have basis for an action against those police officers for battery. Private property? That appears to be a school (funded by taxpayers) or a church (exempt from paying taxes and as such state funded) or a town hall. No matter what it is, I'd say they're in a public or pseudo-public space, and in any event it's surely a meeting to which the general public was invited. What those cops (or security people, or whoever those goons were) did was ~absolutely~ a violation of his freedom of speech, right to assemble, etc. The question would be, were the capitalist stormtroopers acting as authorized agents of the state, or did they go beyond the scope of their jurisdiction to the point that their actions do not constitute state intervention, thus rendering them solely liable for their inexcusable actions? If they were private rent-a-cops, they and their employers will be liable for (at the very least) assault and battery, if they were real cops, there could be a whole bevy of constitutional actions that could arise from this. cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 02:12:28 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango I still think Frank is paying these people to pose for him... His middle name isn't Alfred for nothing. Rebekah wrote: Great grab! They look so sweet :o) rg2 On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Remember, it?s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? WHAT When did that happen? Cheers, Dave Hoya bought them for the endoscope business. As they say, hindsight is better than foresight. Thanks for the disgusting visual image that just popped into my minds eye: Hey Doc, that ain't an endoscope your looking into shudder :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sad state of Photo Stores
I've been on a small quest for HC110, since I haven't been shooting a lot of BW these days and a bottle to make 2 gallons of stock solution will probably last me the rest of this century. I'd like to buy locally so I visited each of the three full service photo stores within a 15 mile radius. Two seemed on the surface at least to be doing all right, but the third seems to be dying. None had HC-110 in stock. So I guess I'll be ordering it from BH photo. There may be a film renaissance going on somewhere but it hasn't arrived here, just under a couple hundred miles outside NYC. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Has my lack of knowledge in regard to digital photography offended you? With regard to my post, I was just being direct and honest. I had done a bit of research, but had found differing opinions among the various sources, and, more importantly, the technology advances so rapidly these days that Wikipedia articles (and the like) are often out-of-date shortly after being posted. Yes, I have seen photo kiosks, but have never used one. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Tom C wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:16:04 -0700 Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. Doesn't anyone try to research things for themselves anymore? Wikipedia? Been near a minilab or walked past a photo kiosk lately? :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Pythonesque 2
Acting under color of law, huh Frank? frank theriault wrote: On 9/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first amendment: Congress shall make no law... or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. This doesn't seem to cover meetings held on private property where the owners can have idiots ejected or arrested for trespass, simply by revoking their permission for said idiot to be there. Secondly he didn't seem to petitioning the government, just badgering a public official. The fact that the cops who were called by the management over reacted is not per se a violation of the idiots freedom of speech, certainly not by congress, or the state government, .though he may have basis for an action against those police officers for battery. Private property? That appears to be a school (funded by taxpayers) or a church (exempt from paying taxes and as such state funded) or a town hall. No matter what it is, I'd say they're in a public or pseudo-public space, and in any event it's surely a meeting to which the general public was invited. What those cops (or security people, or whoever those goons were) did was ~absolutely~ a violation of his freedom of speech, right to assemble, etc. The question would be, were the capitalist stormtroopers acting as authorized agents of the state, or did they go beyond the scope of their jurisdiction to the point that their actions do not constitute state intervention, thus rendering them solely liable for their inexcusable actions? If they were private rent-a-cops, they and their employers will be liable for (at the very least) assault and battery, if they were real cops, there could be a whole bevy of constitutional actions that could arise from this. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer
They probably did a restore on their mail server at your ISP, and wound up restoring some old mail too. Would not worry about it unless it keeps happening. Walter Hamler wrote: I do not understand what is going on here. The origonal post I made was first posted a few months ago I believe. Now, yesterday, the post and the initial responses showed up again on the list ? Webmaster ??? Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
On 9/26/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 02:12:28 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango I still think Frank is paying these people to pose for him... His middle name isn't Alfred for nothing. Actually, it's Andrew. Close, though... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
So ... By your comment, the only thing that's important is how much something costs. It's one way of looking at the world, I guess. G On Sep 26, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Tom C wrote: There's really no right or wrong. If one waits 6 months a K10D will probably cost under $600. At last. Solid, direct, simple advice. Possibly wrong, but who's counting for accuracy? ];-) Go with the Nikon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Last Rose of the Summer
On 9/25/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful. You should get a cold more often! This, from a doctor? ;-) cheers, frank PS: Jens, those are beautiful photos, but I bet you could do just as nice (or better) job were you healthy! -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Pythonesque 2
On 9/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Churches and schools, even publicly funded schools are considered private property under most if not all state laws. I know that may seem strange but it's true. They are not public space such as a public street public sidewalk or Town Square. There are exceptions, here in New England, if you live in a town with town meeting government, and the school auditorium is used for the meeting, or really small places where the town meeting house might double as the church, for that time, it is public space, but even then you are under Roberts Rules of Order, and if you attempt to disrupt the meeting you can be ejected and arrested. He was being a nuisance, then trespassing, and creating a disturbance, and eventually resisting arrest. (It's amazing how quickly being a nuisance can become resisting arrest). The only absolute right you have to freedom of speech is in the public square, truly public property, (town or city hall, meeting rooms etc.), and on your own property, and even there you're not allowed to force people to listen to you, if you try to force them that can actually be construed as assault, kidnapping or worse, you should know that. There may be attempts at constitutional actions but no judge in his right mind should allow them to arise in his or her court. Interesting. Our law WRT public/private spaces is different from yours. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy it ... they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SV: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
I simply regale any naysayers with my I began using Pentaxes back in '74 . . . monologue and then sneak away while they're asleep. It works just likes my courses, actually. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/26/2007 9:13 AM Seriously, neither do I!! Jack --- Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm never embarrassed to show up with my Pentaxes. I mean - it's the pictures that count. People who know me and my work respect me, no matter what camera brand I show up with. I don't need the acknowledgement that comes from just my choice of camera brand. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jack Davis Sendt: 18. september 2007 20:03 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Do you suppose this could lead to a Pentax being considered a PRO camera? One that you would carry with a swagger, proudly exposed and without embarrassment? :/ WOW! Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey - your'e converting over to what Herb, Rob Studdert and myself have been saying for the past 2 - 3 years. :-) Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:19:27 -0400 (EDT) 0Joseph Tainter wrote: But it's got to be said they seem to be undervaluing their products. I was quite surprised when the price of the K10D was announced (I was willing to spend more), I'm surprised at how relatively cheap the DA* lenses compared to ther NC equivalents. Obviously their making a profit, but I'm sure it's not as big as it could be. It looks like the Hoya plan makes sense and that they are going to try to try to raise the price and perceived value of their products. They undoubtedly realize that one of the keys to getting people to buy your affordable products is providing a higher end product for people to aspire to -- even though most will never buy it, they like to know they *can*; that it's out there. There's also the prestige by association effect that Cotty has mentioned in the past: People want the name badge on their camera to be the same as [fill in prestigious item you can't afford here] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ __ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 09/18/2007 11:53 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 08:02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:46fa67d8114178210517762! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
No. I'm not offended, but a little surprised. Asking a question like 'how does one convert the 1's and 0's to a printed image' is sort of like asking 'what chemical reactions enable film to be processed and printed'? Sure the question is an honest question. But there are reams of books, other printed information, and online that all explain the process (both digital and film). To ask the question here seems to imply (at least to me) that the other avenues to gathering knowledge haven't been explored. Even a basic Intoduction to Photography book that was released in the last five years would have a chapter, probably telling you as much or more than you would want to know. The process has not changed much in 5 years. Assuming you want a non-technical answer it would be 'the same way you printed images from film, just take the media to your photo processor'. I guess my point is, that the information is already available out there for you, in a far more concise, accurate, and complete form, than the answers you might receive from asking a mailing list. For instance: http://www.shortcourses.com/guide/ and more to the point possibly... http://www.shortcourses.com/display/ Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:41:09 -0400 Has my lack of knowledge in regard to digital photography offended you? With regard to my post, I was just being direct and honest. I had done a bit of research, but had found differing opinions among the various sources, and, more importantly, the technology advances so rapidly these days that Wikipedia articles (and the like) are often out-of-date shortly after being posted. Yes, I have seen photo kiosks, but have never used one. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Tom C wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:16:04 -0700 Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. Doesn't anyone try to research things for themselves anymore? Wikipedia? Been near a minilab or walked past a photo kiosk lately? :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Your words, not mine. Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:39:32 -0700 So ... By your comment, the only thing that's important is how much something costs. It's one way of looking at the world, I guess. G On Sep 26, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Tom C wrote: There's really no right or wrong. If one waits 6 months a K10D will probably cost under $600. At last. Solid, direct, simple advice. Possibly wrong, but who's counting for accuracy? ];-) Go with the Nikon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Thank you, Tom. I was looking for brief answers to my questions, and that is why I made the post to this mailing list. I realize, however, that more detailed information and analysis is obtainable. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Tom C wrote: No. I'm not offended, but a little surprised. Asking a question like 'how does one convert the 1's and 0's to a printed image' is sort of like asking 'what chemical reactions enable film to be processed and printed'? Sure the question is an honest question. But there are reams of books, other printed information, and online that all explain the process (both digital and film). To ask the question here seems to imply (at least to me) that the other avenues to gathering knowledge haven't been explored. Even a basic Intoduction to Photography book that was released in the last five years would have a chapter, probably telling you as much or more than you would want to know. The process has not changed much in 5 years. Assuming you want a non-technical answer it would be 'the same way you printed images from film, just take the media to your photo processor'. I guess my point is, that the information is already available out there for you, in a far more concise, accurate, and complete form, than the answers you might receive from asking a mailing list. For instance: http://www.shortcourses.com/guide/ and more to the point possibly... http://www.shortcourses.com/display/ Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:41:09 -0400 Has my lack of knowledge in regard to digital photography offended you? With regard to my post, I was just being direct and honest. I had done a bit of research, but had found differing opinions among the various sources, and, more importantly, the technology advances so rapidly these days that Wikipedia articles (and the like) are often out-of-date shortly after being posted. Yes, I have seen photo kiosks, but have never used one. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Tom C wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:16:04 -0700 Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. Doesn't anyone try to research things for themselves anymore? Wikipedia? Been near a minilab or walked past a photo kiosk lately? :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sad state of Photo Stores
P. J. Alling wrote: I've been on a small quest for HC110, since I haven't been shooting a lot of BW these days and a bottle to make 2 gallons of stock solution will probably last me the rest of this century. I'd like to buy locally so I visited each of the three full service photo stores within a 15 mile radius. Two seemed on the surface at least to be doing all right, but the third seems to be dying. None had HC-110 in stock. So I guess I'll be ordering it from BH photo. There may be a film renaissance going on somewhere but it hasn't arrived here, just under a couple hundred miles outside NYC. I feel your pain. There's only one photo shop in Pittsburgh that carries any darkroom supplies (really there's only one real photo shop in Pittsburgh at all) and most of what they have in stock looks like it's been on the shelf for a good 10 years. Subsequently, I mail order my supplies from BH. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
Tom C wrote: On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? WHAT When did that happen? Hoya bought them for the endoscope business. As they say, hindsight is better than foresight. Come on Tom, you know endoscopes are used for more general purposes. But they can all be categorized as insight. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
Got a chuckle out of that one. -- Bruce Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 5:27:18 AM, you wrote: ft I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: ft http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p ft http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg ft Comments welcome. ft cheers, ft frank ft -- ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
No problem. Sometimes I'm cranky. :-) I think Chapter 2 in the second link probably answers your question pretty well. Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:31:54 -0400 Thank you, Tom. I was looking for brief answers to my questions, and that is why I made the post to this mailing list. I realize, however, that more detailed information and analysis is obtainable. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Tom C wrote: No. I'm not offended, but a little surprised. Asking a question like 'how does one convert the 1's and 0's to a printed image' is sort of like asking 'what chemical reactions enable film to be processed and printed'? Sure the question is an honest question. But there are reams of books, other printed information, and online that all explain the process (both digital and film). To ask the question here seems to imply (at least to me) that the other avenues to gathering knowledge haven't been explored. Even a basic Intoduction to Photography book that was released in the last five years would have a chapter, probably telling you as much or more than you would want to know. The process has not changed much in 5 years. Assuming you want a non-technical answer it would be 'the same way you printed images from film, just take the media to your photo processor'. I guess my point is, that the information is already available out there for you, in a far more concise, accurate, and complete form, than the answers you might receive from asking a mailing list. For instance: http://www.shortcourses.com/guide/ and more to the point possibly... http://www.shortcourses.com/display/ Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:41:09 -0400 Has my lack of knowledge in regard to digital photography offended you? With regard to my post, I was just being direct and honest. I had done a bit of research, but had found differing opinions among the various sources, and, more importantly, the technology advances so rapidly these days that Wikipedia articles (and the like) are often out-of-date shortly after being posted. Yes, I have seen photo kiosks, but have never used one. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Tom C wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:16:04 -0700 Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. Doesn't anyone try to research things for themselves anymore? Wikipedia? Been near a minilab or walked past a photo kiosk lately? :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to get decent neg/slide scans out of them. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy it ... they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
That's why Hoya took the plunge.(?) :-/ Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Tom, you know endoscopes are used for more general purposes. But they can all be categorized as insight. ;-) Couldn't resist sliding that one in, eh Mark? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sad state of Photo Stores
P. J. Alling wrote: I've been on a small quest for HC110, since I haven't been shooting a lot of BW these days and a bottle to make 2 gallons of stock solution will probably last me the rest of this century. I'd like to buy locally so I visited each of the three full service photo stores within a 15 mile radius. Two seemed on the surface at least to be doing all right, but the third seems to be dying. None had HC-110 in stock. So I guess I'll be ordering it from BH photo. There may be a film renaissance going on somewhere but it hasn't arrived here, just under a couple hundred miles outside NYC. There may well be a film renaissance where you are, but everybody buys mail-order these days. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
Jack, that just plain stinks. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) That's why Hoya took the plunge.(?) :-/ Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Tom, you know endoscopes are used for more general purposes. But they can all be categorized as insight. ;-) Couldn't resist sliding that one in, eh Mark? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times
http://tinyurl.com/2oczre Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
Frank?? PAY??? --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how you're getting these random people to cooperate to make great street shots, are you sure you're not paying them? frank theriault wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Remember, its pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, did you know Pentax was purchased by Hoya? WHAT When did that happen? Hoya bought them for the endoscope business. As they say, hindsight is better than foresight. Come on Tom, you know endoscopes are used for more general purposes. But they can all be categorized as insight. ;-) Touche! LOL. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
On 9/26/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Tom, you know endoscopes are used for more general purposes. But they can all be categorized as insight. ;-) Couldn't resist sliding that one in, eh Mark? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Pythonesque 2
That may be so about property. However the main point is that most if not all people seem to think that their constitutional rights give them some sort of protection against violating normal common sense. Sure you have a perfect right to say anything you like and publish anything you like. Congress and by extension the states, (by an amendment to the Federal Constitution who's number quite escapes me at the moment), cannot make a law to stop you and you cannot be arrested and punished for holding and spreading those your views, as long as they're not provably factually untrue, (if they are there are laws governing slander and libe that take effect). It doesn't give you the right to trespass, to get in someones face, (especially to the point that assault might be reasonably assumed), to disrupt other's meetings, especially if on private property. The student in question was an idiot! If you do something designed to provoke you shouldn't be surprised when it works. The fact that the Cops, they weren't private security AFAIK, overreacted is another matter and they are already paying the price. frank theriault wrote: On 9/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Churches and schools, even publicly funded schools are considered private property under most if not all state laws. I know that may seem strange but it's true. They are not public space such as a public street public sidewalk or Town Square. There are exceptions, here in New England, if you live in a town with town meeting government, and the school auditorium is used for the meeting, or really small places where the town meeting house might double as the church, for that time, it is public space, but even then you are under Roberts Rules of Order, and if you attempt to disrupt the meeting you can be ejected and arrested. He was being a nuisance, then trespassing, and creating a disturbance, and eventually resisting arrest. (It's amazing how quickly being a nuisance can become resisting arrest). The only absolute right you have to freedom of speech is in the public square, truly public property, (town or city hall, meeting rooms etc.), and on your own property, and even there you're not allowed to force people to listen to you, if you try to force them that can actually be construed as assault, kidnapping or worse, you should know that. There may be attempts at constitutional actions but no judge in his right mind should allow them to arise in his or her court. Interesting. Our law WRT public/private spaces is different from yours. cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
I was going to resist a comment on how you guys were plumbing the depths, but I couldn't stop myself. Jack Davis wrote: That's why Hoya took the plunge.(?) :-/ Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Tom, you know endoscopes are used for more general purposes. But they can all be categorized as insight. ;-) Couldn't resist sliding that one in, eh Mark? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sidewalk Tango
Oh yea, what was I thinking. Rick Womer wrote: Frank?? PAY??? --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how you're getting these random people to cooperate to make great street shots, are you sure you're not paying them? frank theriault wrote: I guess there are times that the one just feels the urge: http://tinyurl.com/2apt6p http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RvpM9MA-_jI/Avk/BTTm0Lykn54/s1600-h/sept_25+001.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
I would avoid investing in a scanner at this point. I would estimate that about nineteen out of twenty film users who have tried digital stuck with it. Yes, a few have gone back to film. But unless fine-art BW photography is your ultimate goal, in the long run you'll spend less and do more with digital. Paul -- Original message -- From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy it ... they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Hmm...that was my concern: decent neg/slide scans. I guess it is better to go with separate units, a printer and dedicated scanner. Thanks, Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to get decent neg/slide scans out of them. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy it ... they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
Pentax Gallery Resignation
Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail, there are three pending. It is obvious that somewhere along the selection process, someone or some group feels that my photos are not up to the Pentax Photo Gallery standards. Accordingly, I will be deleting the three photos still pending. Please feel free remove me from your list of accepted artists. Thank you for the opportunity to submit my photos. regards, frank theriault cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
And assuming you are talking about 35mm film, *probably* a dedicated film scanner as opposed to a multi-purpose flatbed. Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:01:46 -0400 Hmm...that was my concern: decent neg/slide scans. I guess it is better to go with separate units, a printer and dedicated scanner. Thanks, Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to get decent neg/slide scans out of them. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
I agree. In fact, you may likely not even pick up your film SLR again. :-( Oh for the halcyon days of film, that bygone era of innocence and bliss. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:56:31 + I would avoid investing in a scanner at this point. I would estimate that about nineteen out of twenty film users who have tried digital stuck with it. Yes, a few have gone back to film. But unless fine-art BW photography is your ultimate goal, in the long run you'll spend less and do more with digital. Paul -- Original message -- From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR:
RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation
At the risk of sounding insensitive... you can't resign from an entity you were not a part of. I hope this cheers you up and provides added incentive to continue. ;-) Tom C. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:54:15 -0400 Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail, there are three pending. It is obvious that somewhere along the selection process, someone or some group feels that my photos are not up to the Pentax Photo Gallery standards. Accordingly, I will be deleting the three photos still pending. Please feel free remove me from your list of accepted artists. Thank you for the opportunity to submit my photos. regards, frank theriault cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News
Mine doesn't, Tom. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, that just plain stinks. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hoya-Pentax Future - News Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) That's why Hoya took the plunge.(?) :-/ Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Tom, you know endoscopes are used for more general purposes. But they can all be categorized as insight. ;-) Couldn't resist sliding that one in, eh Mark? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Frank they simply don't understand you the way we do. frank theriault wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail, there are three pending. It is obvious that somewhere along the selection process, someone or some group feels that my photos are not up to the Pentax Photo Gallery standards. Accordingly, I will be deleting the three photos still pending. Please feel free remove me from your list of accepted artists. Thank you for the opportunity to submit my photos. regards, frank theriault cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
A couple things are working against you here, and neither reflects in a negative way on your photography. One: You waited too long. Based on observation, I'd say the gallery is getting a lot of submissions now and accepting very few. BW street shots seem to be a small minority of the accepted submissions. Take it with a grain of salt. You're an excellent photographer. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail, there are three pending. It is obvious that somewhere along the selection process, someone or some group feels that my photos are not up to the Pentax Photo Gallery standards. Accordingly, I will be deleting the three photos still pending. Please feel free remove me from your list of accepted artists. Thank you for the opportunity to submit my photos. regards, frank theriault cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital SLR Guide News - Best Budget DSLR
Thanks, Adam. I did some research on the Epson R3x0 series. The R380 looks nice (at about $100). I looked up the Epson Luster paper you have mentioned. It seems like nice paper, but appears to be offered only in one size, 8.5x11. I tend to like the standard framing sizes, especially 5x7 and 8x10, and, thus, here is another elementary question: how can I obtain these sizes using this paper? Perhaps some type of cutting would be involved? Also, since this paper is rather expensive, it seems rather wasteful to downsize the print size. Thanks, Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same print engine as the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only suitable for documents and prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to get decent neg/slide scans out of them. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. How do you feel about the all-in-one printers? The Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert. Glen On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320 myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink). For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work on 10.4, it will work on 10.3) -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Adam. I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart). Thus, if I take your advice and go the scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer. What would about $200 or so (for each) buy? I gather the new inkjets are a good deal better than those made five or ten years ago? The older inkjets I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance. Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my film work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an inkjet. It works pretty well for me. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Good commentary, Godfrey. Have you read Rebekah's remarks? I tend to think that this is just another financial black hole. On the surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR, buy a rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many prints as I wish, but then there are those hidden costs...ink, paper, software, and who knows what else... Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR world. Thanks, Glen On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I find this article interesting. The idea of getting a good budget DSLR has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within the DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one. I tend to like prints. Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does one turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints? Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo lab supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner? You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all, which I suspect isn't quite true. - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners are used to capture film and print images into digital images. A digital camera produces digital images. - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print anything else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an online print service having moved the image files from camera to computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store. - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple system by default) will start up and download all the photographs so you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer via a print service on the internet. And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the D40 or D50, I gather? A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions you are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense to buy a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't
