RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? The French word for a goal is 'but'. To score a goal is marquer un but. Butt is more or less directly derived from that word. That word itself is derived from a word for the end of a barrel (butt) or tree stump, which was used as the target in archery. It is all in the same sense field as 'thick' and 'end' and the word 'buttock' is derived from the same source and applied metaphor to one's glutes. It's not just archery targets, of course. Rifle ranges are also called butts. In cadets at school it was always rather fun to be in the butts changing the targets and listening to the bullets zinging overhead. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: 27 September 2007 23:10 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? As far as the Pentax Gallery goes - I didn't submit originally for a couple of reasons; my first attempt didn't work (because I was trying to submit a scanned image, and there was a bug in their validation code), and I never got round to writing a bio. Now, after hearing of all the various problems others are having, I doubt if I'll bother to submit anything (and I *still* haven't written a bio). On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 10:07:05PM +0100, Bob W wrote: How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the stream. For are they not one, the archer, the target and the arrow? Are they not avatars of each of us, and we of them? Your hand must not know that it has released the bowstring, it must slip from you as melting snow slips from the bamboo leaf. Then surely the bow, the string, the arrow, the archer and the target are one. Hope that helps. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: how subjective is this standard? Same as all competitions: Very. Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not agree with their choices, but teaching myself (or trying to teach myself!) to achieve what they're after makes me push myself as a photographer. I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that please just myself. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? There's no explanation as to the criteria to get past the accepted artists' voting: How many votes are required to be accepted or rejected? What percentage of yes votes is required for acceptance? and even then, it states clearly that those that get past the first screening can be rejected outright by the Pentax Panel. We don't know who those people are, and what they're looking for. It's all very closed door, which to me makes it something of a crap-shoot. I'm not sure how submitting many photos and having them all rejected makes me a better photographer. It rather just leaves me scratching my head, and thinking that if I want feedback or reaction, this isn't the place for me. Some may find this sort of exercise very valuable, but I don't. I mean, hey, no hard feelings. Pentax can run this thing any way they want; it's their contest. However, if this is the way they choose to run it, my choice is to not participate. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: Decent photo sites?
60 MB! You're doing well. I only get 20 and I think that's about normal here unless you want to fork out some bucks for more. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Check with your ISP. I think most offer some webspace as part of the accounts. My ISP is a bunch of cheap ass buggers, and only give me 60mb of space, but with careful content selection (think of it as a personal contest), one can do quite a bit with that much space. Bella's breeder thinks highly of Dreamhost. William Robb -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
William Robb wrote: There have been occassions when a dissenting opinion has triggered an outpouring of loathing and abuse at the transgressor, also. Yes, it puzzles me greatly. I just cannot imagine how deeply invested in their views about someone else's photos these folks must be. There are or have been people on this list who are/were at least passingly familiar with judging pictures who rarely comment(ed) on photos for this reason. Another thing could be people like me, who were trained to praise in public and berate in private. Criticism can go either way depending on how strong it is. :-) The bulk of my experience with criticizing other people's work is more one-on-one, like software code and documentation reviews. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Cheap 120 Development
Well, I was rearranging the bookcase this morning when I found 5 rolls of exposed 120 in a bag behind Winton Churchill's Triumph and Tragedy. Now I have no idea when this was shot, so i don't want to invest a whole lot seeing what on these rolls. Any suggestions where they can developed dirt cheap? They're about 1/2 c41 and 1/2 bw. Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Agreed - it is irritating, and the acceptance/rejection procedure is inconsistent. Several people have resubmitted images that were previously declined and had them accepted. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm glad for you, but I find that having every single photo that I submitted rejected (with no reasons, I might add, so I really don't know ~why~) doesn't do much for my enthusiasm... cheers, frank -- Finally - A spam blocker that actually works. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Leather
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/28 Fri AM 09:16:29 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Camera Leather On 28/09/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks. That URL is a keeper. Why Mike, I fancied you for feathers, not leather ;-))) Truth be told, I'm more of a swarfega and ball bearings sort of chap. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
Photo.net faster? Not here. That site is dog slow for the most part. Flickr's speed issues have mostly been resolved when they moved into Yahoo's datacentre earlier this year. But if you do want simple, lightweight pages, photo.net delivers well, even if they do require more massaging of the JPEG before uploading (Flickr doesn't require the removal of metadata). -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I refer photo.net to flicker. The cost for a full service account is the same. But the photo.net pages look much better, and the site is much faster. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flickr displays at 500px on the long side by default. The 'All Sizes' tab gives access to the Larg (1024px on the long side) and also (if you have a Pro account) the full size. pro accounts are $25/yr and also get you unlimited sets and images in your stream, well worth the low cost. -Adam Debra Wilborn wrote: I'm looking for a place to host photos. Right now I have a few things on Flickr here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ (Feedback welcome, by the way.) It seems however that Flickr likes to resize everything to 500 pixels. Kind of smallish. What hosting service, if any, do y'all like? Thanks, Deb in TX Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Questioning kind peoples motives is a good thing. Ego allows blind acceptance. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... especially kind people. Point taken and agreed. That's one of the problems I constantly battle against. I like kind people. :-) 1. I don't want to think my images are good just because I pressed the shutter or because I may have a personal attachment to the subject. 2. On the other hand, just because a preponderance of people seeing the image say they like it, does not make it a good or successful image. Those people could be responding that way because they really like me, or they could be reacting that way because they like the subject matter. There's a fair chance that most people viewing the image couldn't really tell you why they like. 3. Or, I may have a good image that just doesn't strike a chord with most people. That's why I've ranted a little bit in the past on this. Not every image displayed is worthy of praise, yet it seems almost invariably the image is praised... maybe it's kindness, maybe as a mistaken way of encouraging the photographer to keep trying, I don't know. Could be I'm overanalyzing. :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT) ..especially kind people. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people the response I get back from most of them is that are really impressed with the overall manner in which the images are presented. It's not bad, but most people love my photos when I show to them. Yippee! :-) However, I'm pretty sure I could show them my rejects or images I don't like and they'd love them just as much. Most non-serious photographers are not looking at an image or a site with a critical eye. Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I couldn't have done that kind of presentat ion without having my own web site with its attending costs maintenance. And yes, I'm getting more rejections now than early on. I can also say that I see a lot of images up for voting now that I would never think of submitting. The images I saw posted in the gallery in the beginning are much better than what I see in the voting section now. That's what I'd expect. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation I don't see this as a competition. I'm not hoping to win Best of Show, just a good enough nod. If you are wanting to get a picture into a judged gallery, then what you are hjoping is that your picture will be enough better than the other pictures submitted to make the cut. That, my obdurate friend, is, by definition, a competition. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
We went to Crufts in London every year for 4 years... The secret of longevity? Tom C. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:35:36 +0100 On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I've judged a few contests. They are pretty damned subjective. You wanna see really subjective judging, start hanging out at dog shows. Oh boy. I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. She had a cross lab/collie called Sherpa - she was 16 and I was 18...ah, the memories...I digress. We went to Crufts in London every year for 4 years and that was a whole new word for me. I shot HP4 on a Fujica ST605n, I have negs somewhere. I wish I had time to scan them -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Cotty wrote: I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 9/27/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And I'm a bit more enthusiastic about my photography - and that has to be a good thing... I'm glad for you, but I find that having every single photo that I submitted rejected (with no reasons, I might add, so I really don't know ~why~) doesn't do much for my enthusiasm... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
I don't see this as a competition. I'm not hoping to win Best of Show, just a good enough nod. Best set your A alarm. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Actually, I consider I'm just vying for a favorable subjective opinion from da 'judge'. You may get a favourable enough opinion, and still not win the competition, in that if your picture didn't (doesn't) get published in the gallery, and some else's does, then subjectively speaking, the other picture was considered to be the better picture, given the often rather vague subjective criteria that is applied to artistic merit. Shit, I just used the A word. Sorry. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
Flickr displays at 500px on the long side by default. The 'All Sizes' tab gives access to the Larg (1024px on the long side) and also (if you have a Pro account) the full size. pro accounts are $25/yr and also get you unlimited sets and images in your stream, well worth the low cost. -Adam Debra Wilborn wrote: I'm looking for a place to host photos. Right now I have a few things on Flickr here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ (Feedback welcome, by the way.) It seems however that Flickr likes to resize everything to 500 pixels. Kind of smallish. What hosting service, if any, do y'all like? Thanks, Deb in TX Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cheap 120 Development
On Sep 28, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Wal-Mart. Don't bother talking to the warm body behind the counter. Put them in the send-out envelopes. You can find these at a kiosk near the photo counter or the entrance to the store. Make some notes in the special instructions box. Something like 120 Roll Film - Process C-41. It will end up at a Fuji lab somewhere and should take about a week and a half. Wally World hasn't figured out (or doesn't care) that 120 is different than 35mm and charges the same amount per frame. 12 exposures printed on 4x6 paper usually works out to $2 and change. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ Dankon Scott. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
Both my home and work connections are directly off the alter.net backbone, so I can generally assume that slower sites are either way the heck off in the internet hinterland or just slow. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my service at work and at home (Comcast cable), photo.net is considerably faster than flickr. Perhaps it varies by local and/or service. I have no idea. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photo.net faster? Not here. That site is dog slow for the most part. Flickr's speed issues have mostly been resolved when they moved into Yahoo's datacentre earlier this year. But if you do want simple, lightweight pages, photo.net delivers well, even if they do require more massaging of the JPEG before uploading (Flickr doesn't require the removal of metadata). -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I refer photo.net to flicker. The cost for a full service account is the same. But the photo.net pages look much better, and the site is much faster. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flickr displays at 500px on the long side by default. The 'All Sizes' tab gives access to the Larg (1024px on the long side) and also (if you have a Pro account) the full size. pro accounts are $25/yr and also get you unlimited sets and images in your stream, well worth the low cost. -Adam Debra Wilborn wrote: I'm looking for a place to host photos. Right now I have a few things on Flickr here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ (Feedback welcome, by the way.) It seems however that Flickr likes to resize everything to 500 pixels. Kind of smallish. What hosting service, if any, do y'all like? Thanks, Deb in TX Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Organizational Software
I'll second IMatch - it's cheap and quite powerfull when it comes to image organization. IMatch uses category concept where any photo can belong to any number of categories, and categories can be nested many, many levels deep into a tree-like structure. It can be a bit intimidating at the beginning because you have to devise some clever and extensible category schema but after that it's a joy to use. I categorize my images after people, events, locations, theme and keywords and then finding photos by criteria like give me all the photos taken at my mothers home where I am in the photo with my wife and mom or give me photos of my cat sleeping is really easy. There are also dynamic categories and computed categories (i.e. in this category show photos belonging to this and this category but not to these categories) so for example you can look for photos like show me photos taken at home where my wife is in the photo but I am not) or categorize photos after whom you've given them and so when you want to make another selection for somebody you never have to look through the photos you've already browsed and accepted/rejected (just show me photos put in the persons interesting categories but not the photos I've already accepted/rejected). You can also manage image properties, EXIF and IPTC metadata, edit images, there is also a VisualBasic-like programming language and several XML import/export options should you like to move to another software package. You can also browse and manage images even when they are off-line - IMatch can create some sort of off-line cache for the purpose (although importing images into database and creating the cache for them can get some time). That said, IMatch does not look so slick as Lightroom or Adobe Photoshop Album, learning curve can be a bit steep at the beginning (main problem for me was thinking of the category schema) and putting images into categories really involves a lot of time and discipline (although this one problem is rather not IMatch specific). Overall, I find the program essential: despite over 21.000 images and some 3000 categories in my database I know I am in control of the situation. :-) Pawel Leon Altoff pisze: Hi Bruce, If you have every film image scanned then you can use almost any of the image organising programs out there. The Melbourne Museum use IMatch, which I think can be connected to an external database. Domena za 90 groszy! www.nazwa.pl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
I refer photo.net to flicker. The cost for a full service account is the same. But the photo.net pages look much better, and the site is much faster. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flickr displays at 500px on the long side by default. The 'All Sizes' tab gives access to the Larg (1024px on the long side) and also (if you have a Pro account) the full size. pro accounts are $25/yr and also get you unlimited sets and images in your stream, well worth the low cost. -Adam Debra Wilborn wrote: I'm looking for a place to host photos. Right now I have a few things on Flickr here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ (Feedback welcome, by the way.) It seems however that Flickr likes to resize everything to 500 pixels. Kind of smallish. What hosting service, if any, do y'all like? Thanks, Deb in TX Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
Damn spell checker Coriolis effect Cheers, Dave On 9/28/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it has something to do with the corellas effect. Cheers, Dave On 9/28/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, they're backwards somehow... the driver is on the wrong side... weird. CW - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images) ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
I think it has something to do with the corellas effect. Cheers, Dave On 9/28/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, they're backwards somehow... the driver is on the wrong side... weird. CW - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images) ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
On 9/28/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a relativistic effect. True. It's known that as you get closer and closer to the speed of light you become more and more like an Australian. No wonder they're so laid back. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 9/28/07, Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H Should you send a picture of something disagreeable - but what if that were then accepted? We all know you take great pictures anyway, so why worry. I'm not worried. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: AFP journo gunned down in Burma
Derby Chang wrote: Heartbreaking. When the monks first started protesting, this was going to be inevitable. http://tinyurl.com/2r8enn http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23414112-details/The+last+moments+of+photographer+gunned+down+by+Burmese+troops+as+nine+die/article.do Incredible dedication on Nagai-san's part as well. He kept shooting even as he lay bleeding to death in the street. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
On Sep 28, 2007, at 7:27 AM, David Savage wrote: ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm Aye! Blow 'er apart, Capt'n! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb Different sides of the same coin? I need to back up a step. The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. They're not doing it with a critical eye, in the same way that I can watch a movie for pure entertainment. I have a friend that fanices himself in the movie business. He pans some of my favorite movies over the directing, etc. I hate some of the ones he likes. It's probaby the same forces at work. Here, though, and other photo forums, where people generally fancy themselves knowledgeable regarding photography, I agree. For my part, when I see crap over and over, I start ignoring it. If I see a piece of dog s**t on the sidewalk I may kick it to the street, but after a while my shoe starts to stink, and I'm more likely simply to avoid it. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Kenneth Waller wrote: The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. The same holds true for a lot of photographer people. And that's not *necessarily* a bad thing. The tendency to over-intellectualize and/or nit-pick can be just as unproductive as failure to observe carefully. I remember in particular one photo of Frank's that absolutely knocked me out in the very first moment I saw it. A lot of other PDMLers felt the same way but there was a lot of overanalysis (IMHO) afterwards. WHen I see a shot that blows me away at first glance, I do enjoy thinking carefully about and analyzing it -- working out exactly *why* I like it gives me ideas I can apply to my own photos -- but I try to keep the memory of that first blink impression while doing so. That Frank picture is still one of my favorites :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lucky Enablement
John Celio wrote: The DA21 Limited I won in the Pentaxian.com contest arrived yesterday! I'm still in a state of shock over it all, actually. Congratulations, John! You deserve some good luck. That lens is a gem. Now go out and enjoy it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Leather
mike wilson wrote: From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu PM 10:29:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Camera Leather Cotty wrote: On topic for a change! Interesting site - have a look: http://www.cameraleather.com/ Ugh. I really like their stuff. And so does Cesar, apparently. Since getting the 645 I thought it would look rather dashing in some new clothes, like the Hassy 501 cameras in the special edition colors that were available a few years ago. Alas, cameraleather doesn't offer skins for the 645, nor do they offer anything in skittle yellow. I wonder, if I sent my camera to him.nah. Dare you. Morgan at cameraleather is a friendly guy to deal with. I bought the skin for Lexxie there. It feels like an expensively bound book (which figures, since it is book leather) http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/temp/lx.jpg But I thought I'd give it a go myself. Found a local shop that repairs bags and shoes, and bought some leather from him. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/temp/645.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/temp/mamiyaflex.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/temp/supera.jpg D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cheap 120 Development
Evan Hanson wrote: Well, I was rearranging the bookcase this morning when I found 5 rolls of exposed 120 in a bag behind Winton Churchill's Triumph and Tragedy. Now I have no idea when this was shot, so i don't want to invest a whole lot seeing what on these rolls. Any suggestions where they can developed dirt cheap? They're about 1/2 c41 and 1/2 bw. Wal-Mart. Don't bother talking to the warm body behind the counter. Put them in the send-out envelopes. You can find these at a kiosk near the photo counter or the entrance to the store. Make some notes in the special instructions box. Something like 120 Roll Film - Process C-41. It will end up at a Fuji lab somewhere and should take about a week and a half. Wally World hasn't figured out (or doesn't care) that 120 is different than 35mm and charges the same amount per frame. 12 exposures printed on 4x6 paper usually works out to $2 and change. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Certainly, they do. But then the brain should probably get involved. Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:32:56 -0400 The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. The same holds true for alot of photographer people. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb Different sides of the same coin? I need to back up a step. The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. They're not doing it with a critical eye, in the same way that I can watch a movie for pure entertainment. I have a friend that fanices himself in the movie business. He pans some of my favorite movies over the directing, etc. I hate some of the ones he likes. It's probaby the same forces at work. Here, though, and other photo forums, where people generally fancy themselves knowledgeable regarding photography, I agree. For my part, when I see crap over and over, I start ignoring it. If I see a piece of dog s**t on the sidewalk I may kick it to the street, but after a while my shoe starts to stink, and I'm more likely simply to avoid it. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
It's a relativistic effect. cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/28/2007 10:34 AM Dave, they're backwards somehow... the driver is on the wrong side... weird. CW - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images) ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: 9/27/2007 5:00 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:46fd12fc114171738623032! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
That's true to some extent. But on a list like this, which is largely a social community, one has to exercise some restraint. In the past, one member in particular, who is not here at present, critiqued in a very personal way, questioning not just the quality of the photo but the skills and dedication of the photographer. That can be a very bad situation, which it proved to be. Paul -- Original message -- From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. I agree. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
N80 Viewfinder, etc. (Adam?)
Adam: I do not know if you were able to read a post I wrote a couple of days ago regarding my N80 body purchase, but, anyway, I received the body and am quite impressed. I thought the smallish viewfinder magnification (supposedly .75x) might be a hinderance, but I find that, so far, the viewfinder is not all that bad. In fact, it seems as if may be even a tad better than my ZX-M's finder, which is supposedly 0.77x. The N80 is loaded with functionality, and I find that, with the MB-16 pack attached, it has good balance and a comfortable feel in my hand. I had the D40 and K100D in my hand yesterday, and I thought both bodies were a bit thick for my hand. The K100D's body is a bit thinner, and thus it felt a little better, but the N80 is just about perfect for my somewhat small hand. Perhaps this is how all digital bodies tend to be (a bit thick)? When comparing the feel of the ZX-M and N80 to the digital bodies I have mentioned, it is similar to holding a baseball as opposed to a softball. Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Rugby
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471235 Comments/critique welcome :-) Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: N80 Viewfinder, etc. (Adam?)
Yes, Godfrey, more stuff ;-) They also seemed even a bit heavier than some of the film SLRs I have held. How does your K10D feel? I do not know the size of your hand, but how does the thickness feel to you? Thanks, Glen On Sep 28, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Yes, most DSLR bodies tend to be a bit thicker than 35mm film SLRs. They have more stuff in them... stuff ... That's a technical term. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rugby
Cool shot. All their expressions are well caught. But I want to see the after shot when the guy in blue gets well and truly clobbered :-D Cheers, Dave On 9/28/07, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471235 Comments/critique welcome :-) Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
Steve Desjardins wrote: cbwaters wrote: they're backwards somehow... the driver is on the wrong side... weird. It's a relativistic effect. True. It's known that as you get closer and closer to the speed of light you become more and more like an Australian. Scary, huh? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
cool pictures ;) rg2 On 9/28/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:14 AM, David Savage wrote: I think it has something to do with the corellas effect. Only if you're driving a Toyota Corellas. I guess that it isn't the corellas effect. I drive a Camry. So it's a camryellas effect? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Interplay
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471532size=lg Just rediscovered this. Taken in the spring. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation
Hi Frank, I'm glad for you, but I find that having every single photo that I submitted rejected (with no reasons, I might add, so I really don't know ~why~) doesn't do much for my enthusiasm... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Perhaps they disagree with Henri Cartier-Bresson? Should you send a picture of something disagreeable - but what if that were then accepted? We all know you take great pictures anyway, so why worry. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FYI: hyperdrive COLORSPACE
For those who are interested, - Hyperdrive released a new model, COLORSPACE. This model allows to view the stored images. http://www.hypershop.com/shop/ Unfortunately, I purchased the previous model SPACE just in May. It works fine, and I am satisfied with it, but the Colorspace offers more for just $50 difference in price. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
Deb - I like smugmug a lot for a number of reasons ans photo.net for the quickly loading nicely sized thumbs... I thought I was going to move everything over to smugmug but now I think I'll keep both Smugmug has a few too many cutsey things but you can disable them - they are VERY responsive quickly to email pleas for help . You can sell stuff from there if you like and they have a lot of nice templates for setting up your page... 3 price groups, depending on how much you want to personalize and control your page... there are 4 size options - you can send them large files , no problem, but they don't store Tiffs as yet. Cory is on there, and George S and me - there may be others... my page is http://annsan.smugmug.com I use Netscape communicator for my email - firefox for browsing... and I've found that when people post things here from picassa it takes forever to load if I just click on links from the list - I have to cut and paste and go to firefox to be comfortable viewing stuff there and i have a high spped cable connection flickr just annoys me... happy hunting ann Debra Wilborn wrote: I'm looking for a place to host photos. Right now I have a few things on Flickr here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ (Feedback welcome, by the way.) It seems however that Flickr likes to resize everything to 500 pixels. Kind of smallish. What hosting service, if any, do y'all like? Thanks, Deb in TX Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Leather
Interesting comment under the cobra skin... Very popular and I don't know why Cesar, you've got to tell him! Regards, Bob S. On 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On topic for a change! Interesting site - have a look: http://www.cameraleather.com/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: netscape communicator 7.0 weirdness - as in help!
TIA if you can tell me how to use the search mechanism to find the unread message in my 3000 plus message inbox... can an unread message be hidden? whenever I get on to read my mail the inbox is sorted by date and I delete all suspicious email immediately and open everything else... usually, after I do this , the number of unread message thingy in parens disappears... today it has not... I see no way to search by unread messages and I scrolled through the whole list looking for a little green arrow and nothing came up (that I could see) It is worrysome... yeah, I rebooted. anyone? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
Yeah, I drive like that. I like these shots. They work well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/28/2007 10:34 AM Good god, man. Your tiller's been transplanted! Fun stuff. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:46fd11ef114171846882346! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
You obviously learned a lot from her... Norm Cotty wrote: Oh boy. I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
Ditto. I use flickr, because there is a very active local group (which is a good is a good source of info as to photo ops/events around town) but I find it annoyingly slow, the UI and look is a PITA. Although I'm finding the ads on photo.net getting more more intrusive. My preference is to make my own pages put them up on the web space provided by my ISP. Cheers, Dave On 9/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my service at work and at home (Comcast cable), photo.net is considerably faster than flickr. Perhaps it varies by local and/or service. I have no idea. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photo.net faster? Not here. That site is dog slow for the most part. Flickr's speed issues have mostly been resolved when they moved into Yahoo's datacentre earlier this year. But if you do want simple, lightweight pages, photo.net delivers well, even if they do require more massaging of the JPEG before uploading (Flickr doesn't require the removal of metadata). -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I refer photo.net to flicker. The cost for a full service account is the same. But the photo.net pages look much better, and the site is much faster. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: N80 Viewfinder, etc. (Adam?)
On 9/29/07, Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They also seemed even a bit heavier than some of the film SLRs I have held. That'd be the extra stuff. Cheers, Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Leather
On 28/09/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Truth be told, I'm more of a swarfega and ball bearings sort of chap. I'm referring you to a specialist. Please contact a Dr P J Alling... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:14 AM, David Savage wrote: I think it has something to do with the corellas effect. Only if you're driving a Toyota Corellas. I guess that it isn't the corellas effect. I drive a Camry. So it's a camryellas effect? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
David Savage wrote: cbwaters wrote: Dave, they're backwards somehow... the driver is on the wrong side... weird. I think it has something to do with the corellas effect. Only if you're driving a Toyota Corellas. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
On 9/29/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: cbwaters wrote: Dave, they're backwards somehow... the driver is on the wrong side... weird. I think it has something to do with the corellas effect. Only if you're driving a Toyota Corellas. I guess that it isn't the corellas effect. I drive a Camry. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question about FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 IF, Tamron vs. Pentax
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:54:23 -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote Pentax rebranded a 28-105 from Tamron. It was reportedly inferior to the (then current) FA Power Zoom 28-105 F4-5.6. That one was a lovely zoom lens. If you can find a used one of those, I would get it. Yes, best of the 28-105mm zooms in it's day. I still have one, although rarely used on DSLR's now, prefering the Tamron 28-75 XR Di John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
Dave, they're backwards somehow... the driver is on the wrong side... weird. CW - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images) ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: 9/27/2007 5:00 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
Is that what the girls tell you, Mark? Regards, Bob... Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection. -Jean Luc Godard - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] True. It's known that as you get closer and closer to the speed of light you become more and more like an Australian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Leather
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu PM 10:29:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Camera Leather Cotty wrote: On topic for a change! Interesting site - have a look: http://www.cameraleather.com/ Ugh. I really like their stuff. And so does Cesar, apparently. Since getting the 645 I thought it would look rather dashing in some new clothes, like the Hassy 501 cameras in the special edition colors that were available a few years ago. Alas, cameraleather doesn't offer skins for the 645, nor do they offer anything in skittle yellow. I wonder, if I sent my camera to him.nah. Dare you. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Leather
Thanks. That URL is a keeper. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu PM 10:06:20 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Camera Leather On topic for a change! Interesting site - have a look: http://www.cameraleather.com/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
At 04:28 PM 28/09/2007, Cotty wrote: On 28/09/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Check out picasaweb. It's a google service, so you'll need to sign up for a gmail account. (Don't worry, Cotty. She doesn't have to use it.) Yeah but then of course she'll have a few to give away right? You Americans are so giving. I got one right here for ya. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
On 28/09/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Check out picasaweb. It's a google service, so you'll need to sign up for a gmail account. (Don't worry, Cotty. She doesn't have to use it.) Yeah but then of course she'll have a few to give away right? You Americans are so giving. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Organizational Software
Hi Bruce, If you have every film image scanned then you can use almost any of the image organising programs out there. The Melbourne Museum use IMatch, which I think can be connected to an external database. My problem is that I have several thousand slides that I want to keep track of and only 5% at most are scanned. I still want ot be able to get information on all the slide images along with the scanned and digital ones. I never did catalog my negative film images. They are in labeled boxes under the bed and for the most part I enjoy going through them when I want to find something. I started out with an Excel spreadsheet with my slides then moved to Access and wrote a database that allosw me to search on whatever I want, mark images for upto 7 different projects, print out an 8 image to a page report and even write my web pages for me. But I don't recommend this route unless you are good with database programs - Access 2007 broke some of my filtering routines that have been working for since Access 97. I will say that if you have not been cataloguing your images before now it will be a huge job to get all the data in to a point where you can find images instantly. Good luck. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon Bruce Dayton wrote: My wife is getting serious about trying to organize all our photos. I have most of them scanned and the past several years have all been digital. So on the plus side, we can work in one medium for the moment. She would like to organize images by child, by event, by date, etc. Then be able to access the images for some type of use - printing, making galleries, making scrapbooks electronically, etc. So there would need to be other programs to import an image and she would need to be able to find it. So if the organization was in a proprietary file or something, external programs may not be able to deal with it. That would make the organizing less useful. So once organized, she might say, I want to make a gallery of the highlights of the past year. So whatever software we use to make online galleries would be loaded and she would want to find all the files for the past year and browse through and choose some for the gallery. Or she might say I want prints of the last ice skating competition. She would need to be able to find the photos and put them on disk or some directory for uploading or some such. We are using Windows XP - so the organizing software would need to work with it. Any ideas would be helpful. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. The same holds true for alot of photographer people. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb Different sides of the same coin? I need to back up a step. The reality is that most non-photographer people look at images and have an initial reaction. They're not doing it with a critical eye, in the same way that I can watch a movie for pure entertainment. I have a friend that fanices himself in the movie business. He pans some of my favorite movies over the directing, etc. I hate some of the ones he likes. It's probaby the same forces at work. Here, though, and other photo forums, where people generally fancy themselves knowledgeable regarding photography, I agree. For my part, when I see crap over and over, I start ignoring it. If I see a piece of dog s**t on the sidewalk I may kick it to the street, but after a while my shoe starts to stink, and I'm more likely simply to avoid it. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
On my service at work and at home (Comcast cable), photo.net is considerably faster than flickr. Perhaps it varies by local and/or service. I have no idea. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photo.net faster? Not here. That site is dog slow for the most part. Flickr's speed issues have mostly been resolved when they moved into Yahoo's datacentre earlier this year. But if you do want simple, lightweight pages, photo.net delivers well, even if they do require more massaging of the JPEG before uploading (Flickr doesn't require the removal of metadata). -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I refer photo.net to flicker. The cost for a full service account is the same. But the photo.net pages look much better, and the site is much faster. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flickr displays at 500px on the long side by default. The 'All Sizes' tab gives access to the Larg (1024px on the long side) and also (if you have a Pro account) the full size. pro accounts are $25/yr and also get you unlimited sets and images in your stream, well worth the low cost. -Adam Debra Wilborn wrote: I'm looking for a place to host photos. Right now I have a few things on Flickr here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ (Feedback welcome, by the way.) It seems however that Flickr likes to resize everything to 500 pixels. Kind of smallish. What hosting service, if any, do y'all like? Thanks, Deb in TX Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
Good god, man. Your tiller's been transplanted! Fun stuff. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. I agree. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spam: AFP journo gunned down in Burma
Derby Chang wrote: Heartbreaking. When the monks first started protesting, this was going to be inevitable. http://tinyurl.com/2r8enn http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23414112-details/The+last+moments+of+photographer+gunned+down+by+Burmese+troops+as+nine+die/article.do The AFP site doesn't mention the journalist. And the monks plead for UN help. Really heartbreaking http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/6164D6D9-E42A-4A96-8305-F7AC526A56BC.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
The standard is there to be seen, but you need to learn how, and then be willing to judge your own pictures against those of others. Bingo ! Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation - Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You can see what has been accepted can't you? The standard is there to be seen, but you need to learn how, and then be willing to judge your own pictures against those of others. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lucky Enablement
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:04:54 -0700, John Celio wrote The DA21 Limited I won in the Pentaxian.com contest arrived yesterday! I'm still in a state of shock over it all, actually. When I look at the lens on my K10D, it looks completely alien, I'm so used to bigger, cheaper lenses. A small part of my brain panics, wondering how I could afford to buy such a thing, even though the rest of my brain knows better. The first pics I took with it were of my cat, and they weren't particularly great, so I'll save y'all the bandwidth. Now that I've got a wide prime, I'm thinking of trying some street photography. San Francisco's Folsom Street Fair is coming up, I think, and there's no shortage of interesting subjects there. This is only the second Limited lens I've experienced (the first being a 77mm that Shel let me use for a few minutes a couple years ago), and I'm amazed by the build quality and general feel of the DA21. The hood is one weird piece of metal, but I do like how compact it is. The cap is going to take some getting used to, that's for sure. Overall I love this lens, it's just going to take a little while to get used to it, in many ways. :) Today I won a $50 Amazon.com gift certificate. Perhaps my luck is finally turning? John Congratulations John, enjoy the lens. Regards, John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
Tom C wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471532size=lg Just rediscovered this. Taken in the spring. Meh... it's ok I guess... I mean if beautiful scenery, captured artistically and nicely composed is your thing... :-) Seriously, great shot. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I've judged a few contests. They are pretty damned subjective. You wanna see really subjective judging, start hanging out at dog shows. Oh boy. I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. She had a cross lab/collie called Sherpa - she was 16 and I was 18...ah, the memories...I digress. We went to Crufts in London every year for 4 years and that was a whole new word for me. I shot HP4 on a Fujica ST605n, I have negs somewhere. I wish I had time to scan them -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
On 28/09/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: On 28/09/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Check out picasaweb. It's a google service, so you'll need to sign up for a gmail account. (Don't worry, Cotty. She doesn't have to use it.) Yeah but then of course she'll have a few to give away right? You Americans are so giving. Oops - forgot the -- ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
On 9/28/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meh... it's ok I guess... I mean if beautiful scenery, captured artistically and nicely composed is your thing... :-) Seriously, great shot. Yeah. It's no ~cormorant~ eh? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lucky Enablement
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Celio Subject: Lucky Enablement This is only the second Limited lens I've experienced (the first being a 77mm that Shel let me use for a few minutes a couple years ago), I quite liked that lens as well. William Robb Ouch... :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that please just myself. You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed, baby girls. From my experience, totally out of focus or completely misexposed are merely not very good. All others are excellent or superb. There appear to be no other categories. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating things that please just myself. You are not taking enough pictures of blonde, blue-eyed baby girls. From my experience, totally out of focus or completely misexposed are merely not very good. All others are excellent or superb. There appear to be no other categories. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
Excellent. A fascinating image that is worthy of more than a glance. Good work. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471532size=lg Just rediscovered this. Taken in the spring. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
On 9/28/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471532size=lg Just rediscovered this. Taken in the spring. Beautiful, Tom. You simply must submit this to the Pentax Gallery... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 28/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty wrote: I used to have a GF years ago into obedience training. Nah... You're making it too easy, Cotty. She trained *me* :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
Beautiful. Stop posting this shite, you're making me jealous. Norm Tom C wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471532size=lg Just rediscovered this. Taken in the spring. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Camera Leather
On 28/09/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks. That URL is a keeper. Why Mike, I fancied you for feathers, not leather ;-))) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Organizational Software
On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: A big thanks to all who have offered information and advice on this subject. A fair number indicated Lightroom as a possible solution. I have used Lightroom a bit and I think that for my wife, all the extra capabilities are going to be a bit daunting for her - there is so much extra UI hanging around to confuse her. So just turn off the bits that get in the way. What's the big deal? You can lock the four main panels open or closed, remove or collapse any of the subpanels you don't need to use, etc. Not that I have anything against iMatch, but the fact that they only provide their software on the Windows platform makes them a non- starter in my view. (Same feeling I have about Aperture in the other direction, to be sure.) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: N80 Viewfinder, etc. (Adam?)
Yes, most DSLR bodies tend to be a bit thicker than 35mm film SLRs. They have more stuff in them... stuff ... That's a technical term. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Organizational Software
A big thanks to all who have offered information and advice on this subject. A fair number indicated Lightroom as a possible solution. I have used Lightroom a bit and I think that for my wife, all the extra capabilities are going to be a bit daunting for her - there is so much extra UI hanging around to confuse her. Since IMatch has a 30 day trial and sounds much like what I am looking for, I think I'll give it a try and see how she does with it. If that works out well, then we are on to the hard part (categorizing and organizing). If she ends up not liking it, perhaps I'll have her take a look at Lightroom. Again, thanks for your responses. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, September 28, 2007, 8:07:32 AM, you wrote: PB I'll second IMatch - it's cheap and quite powerfull when it comes to PB image organization. IMatch uses category concept where any photo can PB belong to any number of categories, and categories can be nested many, PB many levels deep into a tree-like structure. It can be a bit PB intimidating at the beginning because you have to devise some clever and PB extensible category schema but after that it's a joy to use. I PB categorize my images after people, events, locations, theme and keywords PB and then finding photos by criteria like give me all the photos taken PB at my mothers home where I am in the photo with my wife and mom or PB give me photos of my cat sleeping is really easy. PB There are also dynamic categories and computed categories (i.e. in this PB category show photos belonging to this and this category but not to PB these categories) so for example you can look for photos like show me PB photos taken at home where my wife is in the photo but I am not) or PB categorize photos after whom you've given them and so when you want to PB make another selection for somebody you never have to look through the PB photos you've already browsed and accepted/rejected (just show me PB photos put in the persons interesting categories but not the photos I've PB already accepted/rejected). PB You can also manage image properties, EXIF and IPTC metadata, edit PB images, there is also a VisualBasic-like programming language and PB several XML import/export options should you like to move to another PB software package. You can also browse and manage images even when they PB are off-line - IMatch can create some sort of off-line cache for the PB purpose (although importing images into database and creating the cache PB for them can get some time). PB That said, IMatch does not look so slick as Lightroom or Adobe Photoshop PB Album, learning curve can be a bit steep at the beginning (main problem PB for me was thinking of the category schema) and putting images into PB categories really involves a lot of time and discipline (although this PB one problem is rather not IMatch specific). PB Overall, I find the program essential: despite over 21.000 images and PB some 3000 categories in my database I know I am in control of the PB situation. :-) PB Pawel PB Leon Altoff pisze: Hi Bruce, If you have every film image scanned then you can use almost any of the image organising programs out there. The Melbourne Museum use IMatch, which I think can be connected to an external database. PB PB Domena za 90 groszy! PB www.nazwa.pl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cheap 120 Development
You mean you actually have one roll that is C41 and BW? What film is this? Norm Evan Hanson wrote: Well, I was rearranging the bookcase this morning when I found 5 rolls of exposed 120 in a bag behind Winton Churchill's Triumph and Tragedy. Now I have no idea when this was shot, so i don't want to invest a whole lot seeing what on these rolls. Any suggestions where they can developed dirt cheap? They're about 1/2 c41 and 1/2 bw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
On 9/28/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful. Stop posting this shite, you're making me jealous. I believe Peter will shortly be hating Tom (if he didn't already). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Organizational Software - inverted tree attitude
Leaving specific software solution aside and talking about image organization I would like to recommend an inverted-tree structure for people categories - it is especially neat for categorizing family photos and I know it can be done in IMatch and probably in other software packages, too. Of course, please excuse me if what I am writing about is well-known and was discussed before. The idea behing the inverted-tree is to build paths to family members and acquintances. We start with a simple structure like that below: Family -me -my wife -our child1 -our child2 Then, we start expanding it in a way that for every member of family we add his or her parents, brothers, sisters and husbands/wives directly under him (except the family member which serves as a path to the member and is already above him in the tree): Family -me --my mother --my father --my brother --my sister -my wife --her mother --her father --her sister -our child1 -our child2 Here, my side of family expanded further (just note the actual family structure is completely artificial and invented just as an example; also in real database we would use people's real names of course): Family -me --my mother --my father ---his mother ---his father ---his sister her husband -his mother -his father -his brother her child1 her child2 --my brother ---his first wife her second husband her child with second husband ---his second wife her mother her father ---his child1 --my sister ---her husband ---her child1 ---her chil2 That way categories containing photos of my grandfathers would be me\my father\her father or me\my mother\her father and category containing photos of my sister's husband would be me\my sister\her husband. This attitude has two great advantages: 1) repeating names are not a problem, 2) it is very easy to group people by family side or groups as we relate to them in real life (for example, my side of family is me category with all the subcategories, my sister husband's family is me\my sister\her husband and all subcategories). Inverted-tree attitude is easily expanded to workmates, colleagues and acquintances, people we got to know during holidays etc. where we can initially group people by where we got to know them: Our buddies -me --my workplace1 ---Steve Steve's first wife Steve's second wife -Steve's second wife child from her other marriage Steve's child ---John --my workplace2 --my holidays 2007 -our child1 --his primary school --his judo trainings ---John John parents General idea is to put people into tree by paths - that way if we think about Steve's second wife child from her other marriage more in context of Steve's wife we put the son under the wife; should we think about the wife's son in context of Steve we would put the son under Steve. The only problem are people who should appear in more than one context (like a workmate with whom we worked in more than one place). In such a situation we have to choose one context over another or make category reference (supported by some software packages) so that we have a link to one category from several contexts. Please excuse the long post. I wonder if anybody have read it all. :-) Pawel Bruce Dayton wrote: A big thanks to all who have offered information and advice on this subject. A fair number indicated Lightroom as a possible solution. I have used Lightroom a bit and I think that for my wife, all the extra capabilities are going to be a bit daunting for her - there is so much extra UI hanging around to confuse her. Since IMatch has a 30 day trial and sounds much like what I am looking for, I think I'll give it a try and see how she does with it. If that works out well, then we are on to the hard part (categorizing and organizing). If she ends up not liking it, perhaps I'll have her take a look at Lightroom. Again, thanks for your responses. Czas wybrac dobra nazwe! www.nazwa.pl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Decent photo sites?
Cotty wrote: On 28/09/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: On 28/09/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Check out picasaweb. It's a google service, so you'll need to sign up for a gmail account. (Don't worry, Cotty. She doesn't have to use it.) Yeah but then of course she'll have a few to give away right? You Americans are so giving. Oops - forgot the -- ;-) It's OK, Cotty. I read all your posts as if there was a ;-). -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: N80 Viewfinder, etc. (Adam?)
Glen, I dislike the N80 finder, however I've been spoiled by the excellent finders in Nikon's higher-end bodies (as well as the LX and MX). The N80 finder will compare well to the very similar finders in Pentax's consumer bodies. I also find the body to be too small, but I'm used to the larger F100, F2, F3 and my Mamiya 645 kit. And yes, Digitals tend to be a bit thicker, they need the extra thickness for the LCD, main circuit board and sensor. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Adam: I do not know if you were able to read a post I wrote a couple of days ago regarding my N80 body purchase, but, anyway, I received the body and am quite impressed. I thought the smallish viewfinder magnification (supposedly .75x) might be a hinderance, but I find that, so far, the viewfinder is not all that bad. In fact, it seems as if may be even a tad better than my ZX-M's finder, which is supposedly 0.77x. The N80 is loaded with functionality, and I find that, with the MB-16 pack attached, it has good balance and a comfortable feel in my hand. I had the D40 and K100D in my hand yesterday, and I thought both bodies were a bit thick for my hand. The K100D's body is a bit thinner, and thus it felt a little better, but the N80 is just about perfect for my somewhat small hand. Perhaps this is how all digital bodies tend to be (a bit thick)? When comparing the feel of the ZX-M and N80 to the digital bodies I have mentioned, it is similar to holding a baseball as opposed to a softball. Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rugby
On 28/09/07, Patrick Genovese, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471235 Comments/critique welcome :-) Nice shot Patrick. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
AFP journo gunned down in Burma
Heartbreaking. When the monks first started protesting, this was going to be inevitable. http://tinyurl.com/2r8enn http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23414112-details/The+last+moments+of+photographer+gunned+down+by+Burmese+troops+as+nine+die/article.do -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: N80 Viewfinder, etc. (Adam?)
I was not aware of the fact that the F100 body is larger than the N80 body. I am glad, then, that I opted for the N80. How much larger is the F100, as I have not completely ruled out that body (in terms of a possible future purchase)? Does it feel significantly larger? Glen On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Glen, I dislike the N80 finder, however I've been spoiled by the excellent finders in Nikon's higher-end bodies (as well as the LX and MX). The N80 finder will compare well to the very similar finders in Pentax's consumer bodies. I also find the body to be too small, but I'm used to the larger F100, F2, F3 and my Mamiya 645 kit. And yes, Digitals tend to be a bit thicker, they need the extra thickness for the LCD, main circuit board and sensor. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Adam: I do not know if you were able to read a post I wrote a couple of days ago regarding my N80 body purchase, but, anyway, I received the body and am quite impressed. I thought the smallish viewfinder magnification (supposedly .75x) might be a hinderance, but I find that, so far, the viewfinder is not all that bad. In fact, it seems as if may be even a tad better than my ZX-M's finder, which is supposedly 0.77x. The N80 is loaded with functionality, and I find that, with the MB-16 pack attached, it has good balance and a comfortable feel in my hand. I had the D40 and K100D in my hand yesterday, and I thought both bodies were a bit thick for my hand. The K100D's body is a bit thinner, and thus it felt a little better, but the N80 is just about perfect for my somewhat small hand. Perhaps this is how all digital bodies tend to be (a bit thick)? When comparing the feel of the ZX-M and N80 to the digital bodies I have mentioned, it is similar to holding a baseball as opposed to a softball. Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
frank theriault wrote: On 9/28/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meh... it's ok I guess... I mean if beautiful scenery, captured artistically and nicely composed is your thing... :-) Seriously, great shot. Yeah. It's no ~cormorant~ eh? ;-) They can't all be cormorants, can they? -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cheap 120 Development
On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Norm Baugher wrote: You mean you actually have one roll that is C41 and BW? What film is this? Norm Ha! What a magic roll that would be. Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
On 9/29/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that you driving? Yep. Remote release? Yes, Pentax remote control F. It can just be seen in my right hand in photo 7067 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation
That's a funny reply and it's essentially correct. Any kind of artistic endeavor is just like real life: There's no definite target, no step-by-step instructions that will guarantee success. well, although I wrote it as a joke, the basic ideas and the image of snow slipping from a bamboo leaf come from Zen In The Art Of Archery by Eugen Herrigel. Some of us might think it's a lot of mystical droppings from the rear of a bull, but it was a great influence on Henri Cartier-Bresson, so maybe there's something in it. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zen-Art-Archery-Training-Become/dp/0140190740/ ref=sr_1_1/026-6533884-2100457?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1191003104sr=8-1 -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 27 September 2007 23:05 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation Bob W wrote: How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the stream. For are they not one, the archer, the target and the arrow? Are they not avatars of each of us, and we of them? Your hand must not know that it has released the bowstring, it must slip from you as melting snow slips from the bamboo leaf. Then surely the bow, the string, the arrow, the archer and the target are one. Hope that helps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation
On 28/09/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: You obviously learned a lot from her... I certainly learned how to beg! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
On 28/09/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: ...I doon't hev the powor, kaptn'. G'day All, I took these on my way home after photographing another sunset. I thought they turned out pretty good for a first attempt: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_014/index.htm As always any all comments welcome. It's long exposure Jim, but not as we know it. Is that you driving? Remote release? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warp Factor 10 Scotty!!! (7 images)
On 28/09/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: I think it has something to do with the corellas effect. That like Captain Corellas mandolin? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Interplay
On 28/09/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6471532size=lg Just rediscovered this. Taken in the spring. Not content with rubbing our noses in it the first time around, now it's reruns. Yeah yeah, excellent the second time around as well.. See it again, what March? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: netscape communicator 7.0 weirdness - as in help!
ann sanfedele wrote: TIA if you can tell me how to use the search mechanism to find the unread message in my 3000 plus message inbox... Well, I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird rather than Netscape Communicator, but since these essentially different variants of the same product I'll give it a go... can an unread message be hidden? Not as far as I know. However, I've often looked for the new message in a similar manner to what you described above, and found that it was hidden because I was using the threaded view, and the new message was grouped with something else that wasn't really related just because it happened to have the same subject. Or, rather, in most cases both messages had no subject at all. whenever I get on to read my mail the inbox is sorted by date and I delete all suspicious email immediately and open everything else... usually, after I do this , the number of unread message thingy in parens disappears... today it has not... I see no way to search by unread messages and I scrolled through the whole list In Thunderbird I'm able to do this if I select Edit/Find/Search Messages... In the little box that pops up then, there is an option menu/ combo box on the top where I can select which of my mailboxes to search in. Most of the time, Inbox will be selected already. A bit below that, there is row that contains 2 more buttons with menus and a text field or another menu depending on the setting for the other two, and initially looks like [ Subject ] [ Contains ] [_] By clicking on the buttons and making selections from the related menus, I can change that to [ Status ] [ is ] [ New ] or alternatively [ Status ] [isn't] [ Read ] and that's about it, really. I hope this makes some sense to you ;-) - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
