Re: Portland Fountains
From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't need to do any of that. :) You can be patient. I also refuse to use jpeg, png or nothing. I may consider getting a co located machine, but then again, do i really care? not really. I don't use photoshop, I use gimp. Static HTML wouldn't be any faster than coppermine. All the images are pre-rendered. The back end is powered via mysql, no cpu usage at all to display anything, so going to static html isn't going to help a damn thing. You can't do batch uploads via SCP that way, screw that. Also, read the EULA, no thanks! It also probably doesn't allow PNG file types. Lossy compression is for losers. Brad? Is that you? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/18 Tue PM 06:59:21 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle I haven't had a bike with a chain guard since I was 12, and I never had one with a full chain guard. A sad and empty life, compounded by oily turnups on your trousers. Unless you were compelled to wear bicycle clips. In either case, my deepest commiserations. graywolf wrote: Ah, heck, Scott, the wheels are even already laced. This is the way they are supposed to come (second picture): http://www.yellowjersey.org/EASTMAN.HTML GRIN Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- ann sanfedele wrote: You should have just called it a GESO :) ann Scott Loveless wrote: Hey, gang. Picked up another bike tonight. It's a Raleigh Rapide. Low end road bike, circa 1983 or so. Thought a few of you might want to have a look. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/RaleighRapide02 -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:45:44 -0500 (EST) Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polyhead wrote: jpeg is lossy compression. Well, that's true. It grabs a square of pixels and averages them Oh my. If ignorance were cornflakes... I'm fully aware thats over simplifing it. But discussing the exacts of how it works would be far over the heads of most people here. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:11:13 -0800 John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also refuse to use jpeg, png or nothing. Wow. That's bizarre. Hardly, jpeg is lossy compression. It grabs a square of pixels and averages them, you lose both dynamic range and resolution with jpeg. PNG is lossless and opensource. The other problem with jpeg is that because of the way it handles compression, it chokes on film grain. There isn't a way to feed a jpeg encoder a image with allot of film grain and have it spit out a reasonable result. People use it because they just don't know any better. You're talking about displaying photographs on the internet, which is meant to be a way of sharing information quickly and easily. Image compression quality takes a back seat most of the time around here, and no one else seems to be complaining about it. Your elitist attitude is grating. If you really don't care about what others think of your photos, why bother posting them in the first place? I thought they may enjoy it, I was wrong, instead they looked for something to complain about. Typical of the bulk of people really. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:16:16 -0500 Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polyhead wrote: I'm perfectly fine with that. If they can't just let it load in the back ground and get an image that is sharp and free of artifacts, thats their problem. I can't but I won't. I have better things to do. You've set a new record. I don't think I've ever killfiled anyone on less than a dozen posts, but you've made it. You ask me/us to do you the favor of giving you a review of your photos and gallery, but you have that little regard for me/us? Pshaw. since when did I ask for a review? I wouldn't care what anyone else thought of it anyway. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:34:31 -0500 Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Polyhead wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:53:56 -0500 (EST) Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polyhead wrote: I also refuse to use jpeg, png or nothing. Wow. That's bizarre. Hardly, jpeg is lossy compression. It grabs a square of pixels and averages them, you lose both dynamic range and resolution with jpeg. PNG is lossless and opensource. The other problem with jpeg is that because of the way it handles compression, it chokes on film grain. There isn't a way to feed a jpeg encoder a image with allot of film grain and have it spit out a reasonable result. People use it because they just don't know any better. If you want to try to appear intelligent, you might want to learn how to spell a lot. If you pay more attention to how something is said rather than what is being said, then there is no need for me to bother with you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
If they are that sensitive i have no use for them anyway. At 05:15 AM 19/12/2007, Polyhead wrote: Lossy compression is for losers. Bravo. In one ignorant post you've just called everyone on this list a loser. Good luck with getting people to pay attention to anything you say in the future. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/19 Wed AM 11:02:34 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Portland Fountains If they are that sensitive i have no use for them anyway. No, not Valentin - he might have come across as arrogant but not with this streak of petulance. None of the barely-repressed violence of Dobo either, though. Gentlemen, we may have discovered a new species. Undoubtedly intelligent, as shown by its use of a non colour-managed application to produce BW pictures. Can I suggest the name Broadbandia maxibytus in honour of its first appearance amongst us? At 05:15 AM 19/12/2007, Polyhead wrote: Lossy compression is for losers. Bravo. In one ignorant post you've just called everyone on this list a loser. Good luck with getting people to pay attention to anything you say in the future. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Dec 18, 2007 4:10 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 3:53 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polyhead wrote: I also refuse to use jpeg, png or nothing. Wow. That's bizarre. I hate all this complicated computer talk. Oh, thats what that was then. Dave cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 52, 52a - GDG
Both are nice shots, but i like 52a a bit better. The geometry is nice. See you can take the surveyor out of geometry, but..:-0 Dave On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In honor of the first snow flurry I've seen since about 1985 ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52a.htm Comments, critique, etc alway appreciated. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
Which brings up a nother point. As this bike has a chain guard, and bikes built since 1983 did not, for the most part, is this bike now obsolete. Or does it just need an ap linkage. :-) Dave On Dec 19, 2007 2:21 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That I haven't seen one of these in nearly 40 years, and those were so old at least in the eyes of a 12 year old. Ancient technology, indeed nearly primordial. graywolf wrote: So, Peter, just what is your point? That you have been deprived? If that is so, I can understand your resentment. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- P. J. Alling wrote: I haven't had a bike with a chain guard since I was 12, and I never had one with a full chain guard. graywolf wrote: Ah, heck, Scott, the wheels are even already laced. This is the way they are supposed to come (second picture): http://www.yellowjersey.org/EASTMAN.HTML GRIN Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- ann sanfedele wrote: You should have just called it a GESO :) ann Scott Loveless wrote: Hey, gang. Picked up another bike tonight. It's a Raleigh Rapide. Low end road bike, circa 1983 or so. Thought a few of you might want to have a look. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/RaleighRapide02 -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Seattle Library Interior
System error. I'll try and access them later. Dave On Dec 16, 2007 10:02 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Seattle Public Library is just as impressive inside as outside. These were taken with the DA 10-17 on the K10D. The main lobby: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6739645size=lg And two of their weird escalators: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6739647size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6739646size=lg Critical or appreciative comments from people of taste and discernment are cordially invited. Rick Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
P. J. Alling wrote: David Savage wrote: At 06:09 AM 19/12/2007, Polyhead wrote: People use it (jpeg) because they just don't know any better. This just gets better better... And yet he continues... Unaware of the axiom that when you're in a hole it's best to stop digging... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Service Bay
Thanks Rick. That 28-105 power zoom, still make a pretty good shot. And, it works properly on the K10D, not like the istD with the 28mm and 105mm focus problems i had. Dave Dave On Dec 18, 2007 9:59 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's exactly what I found appealing about this shot--besides the sharpness, composition, and conversion, of course. Rick --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Service bays, with no way to get in. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Holy crap, Pentax repair is fast
Good to hear. Thats why i have 6 dslr's,:-) Now if only Gentec(Sigma in Canada) would return my calls on the 1.4 tele, id be happy. Dave On Dec 19, 2007 1:26 AM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My K10D arrived yesterday, fresh from its fine-tuning at Pentax's repair house in Colorado. It was a pleasant surprise, and rather amusing that their packaging was much smaller than what I used to send the camera (I tend to over-pack things like crazy). Thankfully, they fixed the problems under warranty, and because of that the turn-around was incredibly fast. Only 13 days from when I shipped it out! Thanks Pentax repair dudes, you totally rock! I have not had a chance to test it out just yet, I'm just glad as hell that it's back before christmas, in time for my annual let's try to out-do that San Francisco Panorama I made in 2003 attempt. I was afraid I might have to go hijack one of Godfrey's cameras or something. :) John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:17:25 -0500 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 4:10 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 3:53 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polyhead wrote: I also refuse to use jpeg, png or nothing. Wow. That's bizarre. I hate all this complicated computer talk. Oh, thats what that was then. Dave Yea well, this is what you get for shooting on film I suppose. cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
mike wilson wrote: From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they are that sensitive i have no use for them anyway. No, not Valentin - he might have come across as arrogant but not with this streak of petulance. None of the barely-repressed violence of Dobo either, though. Gentlemen, we may have discovered a new species. Undoubtedly intelligent, as shown by its use of a non colour-managed application to produce BW pictures. Can I suggest the name Broadbandia maxibytus in honour of its first appearance amongst us? He brings to mind a parody science expert character (Dr. Science, I think) whose catchphrase was There is a thin line between ignorance and arrogance - I have crossed that line! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0
Your comments/opinions about Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0 would be appreciated. It looks like smc FA 50mm only thinner. I wonder how it performs in the field. Thank you... -- fashion, models and gadgets once and again... 4models.info http://www.4models.info -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini-GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel
On Dec 18, 2007 9:28 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good thinking. They're just pixels. They exist only because you allow them to and they're willing to die in service to you:-). MARK!!! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Cost speculation on a few DA lenses
I just had a peek at the Lens Roadmap pdf. It could be an older version whow knows. I see the 50-135 which is now out and in stores. I also see the DA60-250 F4. I have searched Henrys web site, and its not there, so i guess it has not been released. I also do not see a DA70-200 F2.8 lens, but i'm hearing talk of such a thing in the future. The 70-200 would be nice for my equine work, but the 60-250 F4 sounds interesting as well. Any speculation on release or MSRP. I see here that the 50-135 F2.8 is around $1000 Canadian. Could a DA 70-200 be some were around $1500-2000.?? Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to try to appear intelligent, you might want to learn how to spell a lot. I'm giving classes this week. Dave -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to try to appear intelligent, you might want to learn how to spell a lot. Do you mean a lot as in a place you build a house, or a lot as in a whole bunch of stuff? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
David Savage wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 11:55 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Film??!?? Good heavens. How quaint. Mark!! Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
On Dec 19, 2007 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) I blame it on the list... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Dec 19, 2007 7:24 AM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:17:25 -0500 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 4:10 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 3:53 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polyhead wrote: I also refuse to use jpeg, png or nothing. Wow. That's bizarre. I hate all this complicated computer talk. Oh, thats what that was then. Dave Yea well, this is what you get for shooting on film I suppose. To quote the greatest Canadian ever, Red Green: I'm a man, I can change, if i have to, I guess.:-) Dave cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
On Dec 19, 2007 8:20 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) I blame it on the list... I blame winter on the list. Dave cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal
Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO. I'll start with the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night. I've got lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but they're representative): http://tinyurl.com/27j9go http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5 http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v http://tinyurl.com/3543l9 http://tinyurl.com/37lwug http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6 Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm Knarf inspired me to re-do an old BW conversion. ist-D, K 15mm f/3.5, Photoshop and BW Plus Pity it wasn't shot with a Wisner. And then there is that whole JPEG thing bringing it down William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cost speculation on a few DA lenses
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Cost speculation on a few DA lenses I just had a peek at the Lens Roadmap pdf. It could be an older version whow knows. I see the 50-135 which is now out and in stores. I also see the DA60-250 F4. I have searched Henrys web site, and its not there, so i guess it has not been released. I also do not see a DA70-200 F2.8 lens, but i'm hearing talk of such a thing in the future. The 70-200 would be nice for my equine work, but the 60-250 F4 sounds interesting as well. Any speculation on release or MSRP. I had a nice chat with the local Pentax rep last week. The 60-250 is slated for a spring release, and he (and I presume PCI as an entity) isn't able to give a guess on the price. My own guess is that it will be around $800.00. I'm looking forward to this lens as well. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whiteout
Holy cow!! Those are really cool...e...neat. Cheers, Dave On Dec 18, 2007 3:29 AM, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is is white out. Anyway, it was pretty white out yesterday Here's the view from yesterday around noon http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90441017 You can see how deep the snow is on the picture from this morning. The top jump bar on the two mostly-buried jumps is set at 26 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90442029 (darkside ps) We didn't go anywhere yesterday Not even out the back door :-) http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90397951 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
Very nice Mark. I think this is one of those shots where a web presentation does it little justice. It'll probably look really spectacular in print CHeers, Dave On Dec 19, 2007 7:25 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/19 Wed PM 01:02:33 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Portland Fountains On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to try to appear intelligent, you might want to learn how to spell a lot. Do you mean a lot as in a place you build a house, or a lot as in a whole bunch of stuff? Whatever. Just not allot which is almost, but not quite, a pickled onion. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/19 Wed PM 01:07:31 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Portland Fountains On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to try to appear intelligent, you might want to learn how to spell a lot. I'm giving classes this week. Dave... You mean I'm giving classes this weak. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Seattle Library Interior
On Dec 19, 2007 7:32 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: System error. I'll try and access them later. I got to look at the escalators, but the first one won't open for me. The escalators are cool, though... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
On Dec 18, 2007 5:25 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm Knarf inspired me to re-do an old BW conversion. ist-D, K 15mm f/3.5, Photoshop and BW Plus Gorgeous, Mark. Glad I could be of assistance. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
On Dec 19, 2007 10:38 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm Knarf inspired me to re-do an old BW conversion. ist-D, K 15mm f/3.5, Photoshop and BW Plus Pity it wasn't shot with a Wisner. And then there is that whole JPEG thing bringing it down Har! Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
On Dec 19, 2007 5:36 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A sad and empty life, compounded by oily turnups on your trousers. Unless you were compelled to wear bicycle clips. In either case, my deepest commiserations. Turnips in his trousers? I know Peter's weird, but that's going a bit far... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/19 Wed PM 01:54:26 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO--Girly photo On Dec 19, 2007 10:30 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 8:20 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) I blame it on the list... I blame winter on the list. I balm it on the 4 horsemen of the PDML: Pestilence Discord Misery Loss That's right; rub it in. P.S. Should be: Pixels Dissolve (into) Meaningless Loss - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 52, 52a - GDG
On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In honor of the first snow flurry I've seen since about 1985 ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52a.htm Comments, critique, etc alway appreciated. Both lovely, but I prefer the house. Something about snow on a roof... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
William Robb wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm Knarf inspired me to re-do an old BW conversion. ist-D, K 15mm f/3.5, Photoshop and BW Plus Pity it wasn't shot with a Wisner. Since I've been tempted by thoughts of a 4 x 5 recently... Would I have been able to get the necessary DOF with a view camera for that shot? With lots of close objects around the perimeter of the composition and distant stuff in/near the center, tilt wouldn't help. And duplicating the angle of view of that 15mm lens might be interesting. And then there is that whole JPEG thing bringing it down Well, I only have my own pitiful ignorance to blame for that. That and wanting people to actually *look* at my photos... ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:33:55 +0200, Roman Melihhov wrote Your comments/opinions about Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0 would be appreciated. It looks like smc FA 50mm only thinner. I wonder how it performs in the field. Thank you... Is it not a re-badged FA 35/2? John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
David Savage wrote: I balm it on the 4 horsemen of the PDML: Pestilence Discord Misery Loss Mark! Especially the typo. g -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Seattle Library Interior
On Dec 19, 2007 11:04 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 7:32 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: System error. I'll try and access them later. I got to look at the escalators, but the first one won't open for me. The escalators are cool, though... I think photo.net is doing some maintenance. I can't get any of them to load at the moment. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 52, 52a - GDG
On Dec 18, 2007 9:53 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both nice pix, Godfrey. Nicely composed, and they both show nicely the nasty, slushy, sticky snow we get in the Eastern Megalopolis--none of that fluffy white midwestern or Canadian stuff for us! Because it's so far south, Toronto gets a lot of slush, too. We tend to get some snow, and it soon turns wet. The weekend's fluffy stuff is now in the process of melting, it's supposed to rain for the next day or so, and they're calling for a green Christmas. I hate Toronto's winters. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
On Dec 19, 2007 11:05 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's right; rub it in. ;-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
On Dec 19, 2007 10:30 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 8:20 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) I blame it on the list... I blame winter on the list. I balm it on the 4 horsemen of the PDML: Pestilence Discord Misery Loss Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whiteout
On Dec 17, 2007 4:17 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys got about 10-15 cm more then we did here. Two and three are nice, and standard Canadiana. :-) Yeah - I'm amazed at how we in The Big City whined about this major storm - Eastern Ontario got way more than us, and parts of The Atlantic Provinces got twice as much snow. Meanwhile, it's now raining, and they're saying that all of Toronto's snow may melt by next week and that we'll have a green christmas. Sigh... Oh yeah! Cool pix, Wendy. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0
Roman Melihhov a écrit : Your comments/opinions about Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0 would be appreciated. It looks like smc FA 50mm only thinner. I wonder how it performs in the field. It's just the Pentax FA f:2/35mm ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/19 Wed PM 02:01:33 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Portland Fountains On Dec 19, 2007 8:59 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. Just not allot which is almost, but not quite, a pickled onion. Does he have turnips in his trousers? I thought he had a carrot in his pocket but maybe he was just pleased to be here. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
On Dec 14, 2007 5:35 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to see if my perceptions are off base or not. I was rather surprised that the photo I recently showed of the kid with lollipop was declined without even making it to the judges. I would have thought it would have made it through the peer judging. Let me know if I am perceiving wrong...thanks. Here is the photo: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/rivercats_0004a.htm I'm the wrong person to ask... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot) William Robb wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm Knarf inspired me to re-do an old BW conversion. ist-D, K 15mm f/3.5, Photoshop and BW Plus Pity it wasn't shot with a Wisner. Since I've been tempted by thoughts of a 4 x 5 recently... Would I have been able to get the necessary DOF with a view camera for that shot? With lots of close objects around the perimeter of the composition and distant stuff in/near the center, tilt wouldn't help. And duplicating the angle of view of that 15mm lens might be interesting. Interestingly enough, I found a 65mm Super Angulon in my 4x5 case yesterday. I have no idea where it came from. I probably bought it on eBay a few years ago and then forgot it after it arrived. The 65mm would be close to the same angle of view as the 15mm is on the istD, so after that it depends on if you can stop it down far enough and perhaps use a little lens tilt to get what you want. You might need to back up a bit with the intention of cropping the negative. I rarely have problems getting enough depth of field with 4x5, almost always have problems that way with smaller formats. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Seattle Public Library
On Dec 15, 2007 7:46 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courageously, I risk bawdy commentary again with another set of PESOs. Sadly, Photo.net seems to be hiccoughing - can't see any of them. ;-( cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal
All very good. I'm particularly fond of the third and the sixth in the list below. Excellent. It's easy to see that you're motivated by profit:-). Perhaps that's a residual effect of having been a lawyer:-)). Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO. I'll start with the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night. I've got lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but they're representative): http://tinyurl.com/27j9go http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5 http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v http://tinyurl.com/3543l9 http://tinyurl.com/37lwug http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6 Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/19 Wed PM 02:21:18 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO--Girly photo On Dec 19, 2007 11:05 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's right; rub it in. ;-) Hmm. Should have looked at the title of that thread before replying, methinks. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
On Dec 19, 2007 8:59 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. Just not allot which is almost, but not quite, a pickled onion. Does he have turnips in his trousers? -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Holy crap, Pentax repair is fast
On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, John Celio wrote: ... I was afraid I might have to go hijack one of Godfrey's cameras or something. :) LOL ... Couldn't have that, now could we? ;-) I do have a spare or two... Hmm. I need another Pentax DSLR backup, but I'm waiting to see what the big announcement from Pentax really is in January. Good to hear you're got your K10D back so promptly. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
Film, yes by all means, Now lets all not forget how to use itI still have a lot of film in the fridge. Lots of chrome, C41 and Black and white...Still also have a complete darkroom set up which is color and BWJoe -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Savage wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 11:55 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Film??!?? Good heavens. How quaint. Mark!! Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
Hmm. Both the three-speed Raleigh that my father bought for my older brother and the Rudge he bought for me, both about when we were 9 or so, had full fenders and chain guards. That was about about 1963-4, if I recall correctly. Being modern yutes, we tore those fenders and chain guards off ASAP... Not quite WWII vintage but over forty years ago! Godfrey On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:23 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Actually I was alluding to the point that bikes with full chain guards were at least WWII vintage and therefore ancient... David Savage wrote: I interpreted Peter's comments as meaning that bikes with chain guards are for juvenile delinquents sissies. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whiteout
Intense snow ... ! I really like the first one, Wendy. It's other-worldly. Godfrey On Dec 18, 2007 3:29 AM, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is is white out. Anyway, it was pretty white out yesterday Here's the view from yesterday around noon http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90441017 You can see how deep the snow is on the picture from this morning. The top jump bar on the two mostly-buried jumps is set at 26 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90442029 (darkside ps) We didn't go anywhere yesterday Not even out the back door :-) http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90397951 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
frank theriault wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 5:35 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to see if my perceptions are off base or not. I was rather surprised that the photo I recently showed of the kid with lollipop was declined without even making it to the judges. I would have thought it would have made it through the peer judging. Let me know if I am perceiving wrong...thanks. Here is the photo: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/rivercats_0004a.htm I'm the wrong person to ask... ;-) Keep in mind that most of the peer judging is apparently done by Jostein. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
Hmmm... Oily turnips, yet -p frank theriault wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 5:36 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A sad and empty life, compounded by oily turnups on your trousers. Unless you were compelled to wear bicycle clips. In either case, my deepest commiserations. Turnips in his trousers? I know Peter's weird, but that's going a bit far... cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0
Is it possible that it has some sort of quickshift mechanism similar to the Pentax DAs? I remember having read something about this but I am not sure... - Mensaje original De: Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: miércoles, 19 de diciembre, 2007 15:33:13 Asunto: Re: Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0 Roman Melihhov a écrit : Your comments/opinions about Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0 would be appreciated. It looks like smc FA 50mm only thinner. I wonder how it performs in the field. It's just the Pentax FA f:2/35mm ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Chef por primera vez? Sé un mejor Cocinillas. http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
On Dec 19, 2007 10:22 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that most of the peer judging is apparently done by Jostein. ;-) One can't know what to expect from peer judging when one is peerless... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whiteout
On Dec 19, 2007 10:14 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intense snow ... ! I really like the first one, Wendy. It's other-worldly. She lives in Ottawa. That's a whole other universe... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
Mark Roberts wrote: Keep in mind that most of the peer judging is apparently done by Jostein. ;-) This looks like the ultimate occasion to quote Henrik Ibsen: Peer, you're lying. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
I heard an interview with Vincent Versace - when asked if he still uses film he said film is what collects on your teeth if you don't brush GS http://georgesphotos.net On Dec 18, 2007 9:30 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Womer wrote: Film??!?? Good heavens. How quaint. You're worse than an ex-smoker. :) Very nice, colorful pic. I agree. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not been around lately, but thought I would send a link to a photo taken with an LX and on film. Joe Here's the link.. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6513857 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Old News Photo
Here is a link to one of my published Ap news photoJoe http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6751974 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Face Recognition?
I've seen this feature heavily advertised on Canon and other cams. Today I see a Pentax Optio advertised in the paper, and I see that it, too, has genuine face recognition. I no longer have the eyesight of a 20 year old, but I have no problem knowing when I'm looking at a face - either in real life or through a viewfinder. Just because I'm lazy, and I suspect that some of the answers on this list might be more informative than advertising copy (and more fun, to boot!), could I please have a brief primer on Face Recognition and why in the world I might want it? thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
LOL Frank, that sure makes me feel better. Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 10:22 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that most of the peer judging is apparently done by Jostein. ;-) One can't know what to expect from peer judging when one is peerless... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
David J Brooks wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 8:20 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) I blame it on the list... I blame winter on the list. Dave No it's my fault, (I ordered extra snow, special, just for you...). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Face Recognition?
On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:22 AM, frank theriault wrote: I've seen this feature heavily advertised on Canon and other cams. Today I see a Pentax Optio advertised in the paper, and I see that it, too, has genuine face recognition. I no longer have the eyesight of a 20 year old, but I have no problem knowing when I'm looking at a face - either in real life or through a viewfinder. Just because I'm lazy, and I suspect that some of the answers on this list might be more informative than advertising copy (and more fun, to boot!), could I please have a brief primer on Face Recognition and why in the world I might want it? A lot of cameras are offering it now. What it supposedly does, depending upon the camera, is identify the faces in a scene and attempt to set the focus and aperture to bring them into reasonable focus. It's more or less effective depending upon the complexity of the scene and the physical limitations of getting a good exposure vs DoF and focus point. It's useful for snap shooting, casual pictures of family and friends, with minimal thought: an automation convenience. Whether that's of interest to you I cannot say. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Girly photo
I balm it on the 4 horsemen of the PDML: Is there lanolin in that balm, I think I might be allergic to that stuff... David Savage wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 10:30 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 8:20 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. First Frank and now Rick. Gotta be a sign of the apocalypse. ;-) I blame it on the list... I blame winter on the list. I balm it on the 4 horsemen of the PDML: Pestilence Discord Misery Loss Cheers, Dave -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
frank theriault wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 5:36 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A sad and empty life, compounded by oily turnups on your trousers. Unless you were compelled to wear bicycle clips. In either case, my deepest commiserations. Turnips in his trousers? I know Peter's weird, but that's going a bit far... cheers, frank You should try it frank, makes for an interesting evening out, (or in for that matter). -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 52, 52a - GDG
frank theriault wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 9:53 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both nice pix, Godfrey. Nicely composed, and they both show nicely the nasty, slushy, sticky snow we get in the Eastern Megalopolis--none of that fluffy white midwestern or Canadian stuff for us! Because it's so far south, Toronto gets a lot of slush, too. We tend to get some snow, and it soon turns wet. The weekend's fluffy stuff is now in the process of melting, it's supposed to rain for the next day or so, and they're calling for a green Christmas. I hate Toronto's winters. cheers, frank The stuff we got last weekend is now 2 inches of foamy white hard as rock ice. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: One can't know what to expect from peer judging when one is peerless... Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The WholeDeal
Frank: I, too, really like the third one. Fun facial expression, and good composition. Though, enjoyed all of them. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The WholeDeal All very good. I'm particularly fond of the third and the sixth in the list below. Excellent. It's easy to see that you're motivated by profit:-). Perhaps that's a residual effect of having been a lawyer:-)). Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO. I'll start with the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night. I've got lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but they're representative): http://tinyurl.com/27j9go http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5 http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v http://tinyurl.com/3543l9 http://tinyurl.com/37lwug http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6 Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
But, he was only going to let you have what he was going to give you. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- mike wilson wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/19 Wed PM 01:02:33 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Portland Fountains On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to try to appear intelligent, you might want to learn how to spell a lot. Do you mean a lot as in a place you build a house, or a lot as in a whole bunch of stuff? Whatever. Just not allot which is almost, but not quite, a pickled onion. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
Actually, a large percentage of the people here on the list are computer professionals. They have forgotten more than you have had enough time yet to learn. In my experience only those who know little think they know a lot, when you actually know a lot, you also know how much you do not know and become somewhat humble. Are you familiar with the term invincible ignorance? That is how you are coming across here. If that is not how you want to come across, maybe you should think about it a bit. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Polyhead wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:45:44 -0500 (EST) Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polyhead wrote: jpeg is lossy compression. Well, that's true. It grabs a square of pixels and averages them Oh my. If ignorance were cornflakes... I'm fully aware thats over simplifing it. But discussing the exacts of how it works would be far over the heads of most people here. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whiteout
Wendy: I really, really like the 1st one. Great capture eye on that one. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Whiteout Holy cow!! Those are really cool...e...neat. Cheers, Dave On Dec 18, 2007 3:29 AM, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is is white out. Anyway, it was pretty white out yesterday Here's the view from yesterday around noon http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90441017 You can see how deep the snow is on the picture from this morning. The top jump bar on the two mostly-buried jumps is set at 26 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90442029 (darkside ps) We didn't go anywhere yesterday Not even out the back door :-) http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/90397951 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Portland Fountains
DougF, you're not alone! It is definitely a new record for me, too. LOL Yolanda -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 00:16 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Portland Fountains Polyhead wrote: I'm perfectly fine with that. If they can't just let it load in the back ground and get an image that is sharp and free of artifacts, thats their problem. I can't but I won't. I have better things to do. You've set a new record. I don't think I've ever killfiled anyone on less than a dozen posts, but you've made it. You ask me/us to do you the favor of giving you a review of your photos and gallery, but you have that little regard for me/us? Pshaw. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
In a message dated 12/18/2007 11:03:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Way way way too slow to wait for the page to load. G == Yeah, by the time the picture had half loaded I had lost interest. So didn't seem them. Not a good idea to have thumbnails at the bottom, they have to load too. Better to have thumbnails on one page, larger pictures on their own pages. HTH, Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Face Recognition?
On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because I'm lazy, and I suspect that some of the answers on this list might be more informative than advertising copy (and more fun, to boot!), could I please have a brief primer on Face Recognition and why in the world I might want it? It would be pointless to have that option here Frank. Unless you can set it for belaglava recognition. Dave thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 52, 52a - GDG
In a message dated 12/18/2007 6:23:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In honor of the first snow flurry I've seen since about 1985 ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52a.htm Comments, critique, etc alway appreciated. Godfrey Nice, I especially like the first one. Can't remember when I've last seen snow. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cost speculation on a few DA lenses
If thats the case, i can wait.:-) Nothing really happens for me til spring anyway. $800ish would be good. Dave On Dec 19, 2007 8:35 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Cost speculation on a few DA lenses I just had a peek at the Lens Roadmap pdf. It could be an older version whow knows. I see the 50-135 which is now out and in stores. I also see the DA60-250 F4. I have searched Henrys web site, and its not there, so i guess it has not been released. I also do not see a DA70-200 F2.8 lens, but i'm hearing talk of such a thing in the future. The 70-200 would be nice for my equine work, but the 60-250 F4 sounds interesting as well. Any speculation on release or MSRP. I had a nice chat with the local Pentax rep last week. The 60-250 is slated for a spring release, and he (and I presume PCI as an entity) isn't able to give a guess on the price. My own guess is that it will be around $800.00. I'm looking forward to this lens as well. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
In a message dated 12/18/2007 7:06:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it. Nicely composed. Paul == What he said. Marnie aka Doe :-) On Dec 18, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm Knarf inspired me to re-do an old BW conversion. ist-D, K 15mm f/3.5, Photoshop and BW Plus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal
Looks like its 3 and 6 Frank. Good job. Dave On Dec 19, 2007 8:34 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO. I'll start with the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night. I've got lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but they're representative): http://tinyurl.com/27j9go http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5 http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v http://tinyurl.com/3543l9 http://tinyurl.com/37lwug http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6 Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal
On Dec 19, 2007 11:51 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They seem to be pretty good. I'm sure they'll be happy with them. But let pick one nit. Some seem to be a bit too dark. dec_16+003 for instance could do with a bit of tweaking to bring out the mid tones and separate the blacks a bit. Thats cause their jpegs Peter. Dave frank theriault wrote: Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO. I'll start with the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night. I've got lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but they're representative): http://tinyurl.com/27j9go http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5 http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v http://tinyurl.com/3543l9 http://tinyurl.com/37lwug http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6 Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal
They seem to be pretty good. I'm sure they'll be happy with them. But let pick one nit. Some seem to be a bit too dark. dec_16+003 for instance could do with a bit of tweaking to bring out the mid tones and separate the blacks a bit. frank theriault wrote: Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO. I'll start with the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night. I've got lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but they're representative): http://tinyurl.com/27j9go http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5 http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v http://tinyurl.com/3543l9 http://tinyurl.com/37lwug http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6 Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whiteout
On Dec 19, 2007 11:06 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 10:14 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intense snow ... ! I really like the first one, Wendy. It's other-worldly. She lives in Ottawa. That's a whole other universe... Toronto may be the centre of the universe, but Ottawa is better at snow jobs.:-) Dave ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
Hey, that bike has been made exactly like that since 1903, kids! Oops! Sorry, they did upgrade it in the 70's when they started putting bright stickers on it. There are about 20 companies in India building those bikes, most of them get shipped to Africa. However you can get basically the same bike build in Holland with high-tech parts for $1500 or so. A little less tongue in cheek, the old roadster bicycle has its place when you need a bicycle for transportation instead of for a toy. They ain't fast, but they don't break, even when you hang a few hundred pounds of cargo on them. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- P. J. Alling wrote: Actually I was alluding to the point that bikes with full chain guards were at least WWII vintage and therefore ancient... David Savage wrote: I interpreted Peter's comments as meaning that bikes with chain guards are for juvenile delinquents sissies. But that's just me :-P Cheers, Dave At 01:11 PM 19/12/2007, graywolf wrote: So, Peter, just what is your point? That you have been deprived? If that is so, I can understand your resentment. P. J. Alling wrote: I haven't had a bike with a chain guard since I was 12, and I never had one with a full chain guard. graywolf wrote: Ah, heck, Scott, the wheels are even already laced. This is the way they are supposed to come (second picture): http://www.yellowjersey.org/EASTMAN.HTML Scott Loveless wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/RaleighRapide02 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way, way, way off topic - got another bicycle
Most people think chain guards and fenders are old fashioned, but really they are just expensive, if you leave them off the bicycle you can sell it a lot cheaper. If you use you bicycle as a toy (we will ignore the serious racering cycles where the issue is weight) you do not need them, but if you want to wear your good clothes when riding you have to go out and by them extra. In other words, bicycles intended as transportation have both fenders and chain guards, and the ladies version also have skirts so their skirts will not get caught in the spokes of the rear wheel. Kind of interesting photos on this site: http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterdam_bicycles/ Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- David J Brooks wrote: Which brings up a nother point. As this bike has a chain guard, and bikes built since 1983 did not, for the most part, is this bike now obsolete. Or does it just need an ap linkage. :-) Dave On Dec 19, 2007 2:21 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That I haven't seen one of these in nearly 40 years, and those were so old at least in the eyes of a 12 year old. Ancient technology, indeed nearly primordial. graywolf wrote: So, Peter, just what is your point? That you have been deprived? If that is so, I can understand your resentment. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- P. J. Alling wrote: I haven't had a bike with a chain guard since I was 12, and I never had one with a full chain guard. graywolf wrote: Ah, heck, Scott, the wheels are even already laced. This is the way they are supposed to come (second picture): http://www.yellowjersey.org/EASTMAN.HTML GRIN Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- ann sanfedele wrote: You should have just called it a GESO :) ann Scott Loveless wrote: Hey, gang. Picked up another bike tonight. It's a Raleigh Rapide. Low end road bike, circa 1983 or so. Thought a few of you might want to have a look. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/RaleighRapide02 -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Seattle Library Interior
Rick: Nice shots. I prefer the second escalator shot. I like the sense of scope that odd yellow green color is more soothing on the eyes than the 1st one. I really liked your fish-eye exterior as well--and I prefer the crop as is. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:32 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Seattle Library Interior System error. I'll try and access them later. Dave On Dec 16, 2007 10:02 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Seattle Public Library is just as impressive inside as outside. These were taken with the DA 10-17 on the K10D. The main lobby: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6739645size=lg And two of their weird escalators: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6739647size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6739646size=lg Critical or appreciative comments from people of taste and discernment are cordially invited. Rick Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0
I believe the only differences between it and the FA are the cosmetics and maybe the coatings. John Whittingham wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:33:55 +0200, Roman Melihhov wrote Your comments/opinions about Samsung D Xenogon 35mm f2.0 would be appreciated. It looks like smc FA 50mm only thinner. I wonder how it performs in the field. Thank you... Is it not a re-badged FA 35/2? John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
On 12/19/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly enough, I found a 65mm Super Angulon in my 4x5 case yesterday. I have no idea where it came from. I probably bought it on eBay a few years ago and then forgot it after it arrived. Man, I wish I would find things like that in my 4x5 case. :-( I bet you paid a lot less for that lens than you would these days if you bought one on ebay. The widest lens I've got is a 90mm Optar. Decent lens stopped down, but not too bright on the focusing screen. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Face Recognition?
I believe it affects the auto focusing, Frank. If the algorithm finds what it thinks is a face it focuses on that. Just making cameras, for idiots, a little smarter. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- frank theriault wrote: I've seen this feature heavily advertised on Canon and other cams. Today I see a Pentax Optio advertised in the paper, and I see that it, too, has genuine face recognition. I no longer have the eyesight of a 20 year old, but I have no problem knowing when I'm looking at a face - either in real life or through a viewfinder. Just because I'm lazy, and I suspect that some of the answers on this list might be more informative than advertising copy (and more fun, to boot!), could I please have a brief primer on Face Recognition and why in the world I might want it? thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
In a message dated 12/19/2007 3:06:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm fully aware thats over simplifing it. But discussing the exacts of how it works would be far over the heads of most people here. = Oh, my. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portland Fountains
Marnie, the thumbnails are huge too. Just hogging bandwidth for something which should just make you think it might be worthwhile to download the actual image. It's like embedding a PSD or uncompressed Tiff file, in a web page, or even using a full size jpeg for the thumbnail, sure the full size image loads instantly when you click on it, but it defeats most of the purpose to using a thumbnail, without that advantage. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/18/2007 11:03:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Way way way too slow to wait for the page to load. G == Yeah, by the time the picture had half loaded I had lost interest. So didn't seem them. Not a good idea to have thumbnails at the bottom, they have to load too. Better to have thumbnails on one page, larger pictures on their own pages. HTH, Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal
Very nice, Frank. The bassoons and tympani are my favorites. Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO. I'll start with the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night. I've got lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but they're representative): http://tinyurl.com/27j9go http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5 http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v http://tinyurl.com/3543l9 http://tinyurl.com/37lwug http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6 Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAGFMS (Yet Another Grandfather Mountain Shot)
I think the answer to the DOF issue is f64 with tilts and swings to modify the plane of focus. Hey, to duplicate the AOV of a 15mm lens on a 1.5x crop (aps-c), camera would only require an 86mm lens. (I knew my damned Angle of view calculator would come in handy for something.). I'm sure there's such a beast out there somewhere... Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d501991.htm Knarf inspired me to re-do an old BW conversion. ist-D, K 15mm f/3.5, Photoshop and BW Plus Pity it wasn't shot with a Wisner. Since I've been tempted by thoughts of a 4 x 5 recently... Would I have been able to get the necessary DOF with a view camera for that shot? With lots of close objects around the perimeter of the composition and distant stuff in/near the center, tilt wouldn't help. And duplicating the angle of view of that 15mm lens might be interesting. And then there is that whole JPEG thing bringing it down Well, I only have my own pitiful ignorance to blame for that. That and wanting people to actually *look* at my photos... ;-) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal
On Dec 19, 2007 11:51 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They seem to be pretty good. I'm sure they'll be happy with them. But let pick one nit. Some seem to be a bit too dark. dec_16+003 for instance could do with a bit of tweaking to bring out the mid tones and separate the blacks a bit. Thanks, Peter. I agree that some of them are a bit muddy and darkish. It's that old working on a laptop thing. Makes it real hard to get those greytones just right when moving my head up or down a couple of inches changes the contrast as much as it does. These are preliminary versions, not yet ready to go to the client. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
