Re: HNY 2008

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Sorry, I've seen you picture...

David Savage wrote:
 On Jan 1, 2008 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi!

 Let the coming one be at least not worse than the leaving one.
 

 Well it's officially '08 here, so thank Boris.

   
 And let
 it be less killing and more kissing in the new year to come.
 

 Amen...

 ...but I could kill for a good kiss right about now :-o

 :-D

 Cheers,

 Dave

   


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Re: PESO -- The Owl Shop

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Thanks Frank, I figured you would.

frank theriault wrote:
 On Dec 29, 2007 11:47 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
   
 Happy New Year Everyone.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20theownshop.html

 

 FWIW, I love it.  Great mood!

 cheers,
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Re: Interesting ULA.

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Perhaps you should tell that to the DA's and cities attempting to sue 
gun manufactures.  It seems the same logic should apply.  However one is 
a gun and one is a camera.  Then again the same logic applies...

Scott Loveless wrote:
 William Robb wrote:
   
 I doubt very much if it is enforcable.

 http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/4326/camera-test-fujifilm-finepix-is-1-a-narrowly-defined-user-licensing-agreement-page2.html

 
 This is probably more of a CYA thing on Fuji's part.  As far as I'm 
 concerned, if I buy one it's mine.  What I do with it is none of Fuji's 
 business.  If I break the law or cause someone harm with it, then either 
 the State or the victim or both can attempt to exact some sort of 
 retribution.  Fuji has this nonsense in their EULA so that if I use the 
 IR capabilities of their police camera to cause harm to someone else, 
 it becomes difficult for me to point a blaming finger at Fuji.

   


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Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
The modern versions of VB will let you do it.  In the bad old days you'd 
need a batch script or two and a specially written exe or two to get it 
done, (don't ask how I know that, I might give some details). 

graywolf wrote:
 I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in 
 windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe 
 someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread.

 I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that 
 can do some interesting things like compare files and merge 
 in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you 
 want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to 
 figure out.

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 Thibouille wrote:
   
 I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library.
 The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg.

 I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in 
 Jpeg.
 I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format.

 Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself
 with mighty Delphi ?

 Thanks !

 

   


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Re: HNY 2008

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Doug Franklin wrote:
 Scott Loveless wrote:
   
 Bob W wrote:
 
 Hi!

 Let the coming one be at least not worse than the leaving one. And
 
 let
   
 it be less killing and more kissing in the new year to come.

 
 Alright, but no tongues!

 Happy New Year!

   
 That's all I needed to hear.  See you guys at GFM 2009.
 

 Definitely /not/ in reference to GFM, but a friend of mine always urges 
 everyone to

  Have a Horny Holiday and a Naked New Year!
   
Let's put the X back in xmas.

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Re: The last hamburger...

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
They will increase all fees to make up for lost revenue.  After what's 
your's is theirs, at least in their minds.  In Canada that's not so bad, 
when you consider the US revolted over a tax that by todays standards 
would be considered modest in the extreme. We put up with a Tax Code 
that if it were imposed by another country would be considered an act of 
war.

David J Brooks wrote:
 Well, happy New Year any way Tom.:-)
 Our Government(feds)will drop our GST by 1% tomorrow. Just wondering
 what our provincial Government will up to make the difference up.

 Its a visous circle my friend

 Dave

 On Dec 31, 2007 4:46 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 ...and potato chip crumbs were my New Years Eve dinner. Made
 it through the year with a dollar and some change left over.
 Yeh

 Next year Mr Bush and company are giving me a whole $15/mo
 raise. I will be living high off the hog then, I tell you.
 Who would have thought life was going to be so good?

 Happy New Year!



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Re: Entomological help needed

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I prefer the simple Kill the damned things, method with mosquitoes.  I 
expect there's little to dissect when you smash them.

mike wilson wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 Mark Roberts wrote:

 
 positive identification can only be achieved through 
 dissection of the male genitalia,
   
 Which the skipper would thank you for, if it were aware.
 (which brings up two questions, where would you get the tiny scalpel, 
 and would you use tweezers to manipulate it?
 

 Moth genitalia are easy, compared to dissecting out the mouthparts of 
 Chironimidae mosquito larvae.  It's a difficult job but someone has to 
 do it


   
 Mark Roberts wrote:

 
 mike wilson wrote:

  

   
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Can anyone help ID this fella?
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d703021_Moth.jpg
  
   
 as already mentioned this is a Skipper butterfly, shown by the bend 
 just before the club of the antennae. Excellent work to get such a 
 good picture of one - these are usually as active as a caffiened-up 
 Jack Russell. But they are notoriously difficult to identify. Good luck.

 
 A list lurker sent me this link:
 http://www.toledo-bend.us/enlarge.shtml?caption=Silver-Spotted+Skipper+Butterflypic=gallery/skippers/IMG_40911w

 Looks like my skipper.

 At least, that's what I'm going to call it. One web site I went to 
 noted that positive identification can only be achieved through 
 dissection of the male genitalia, which is significantly more 
 involvement than I care for simply to get a photo caption (even though 
 I did have a pathologist with me when I got this shot).

 Oh yes: K10D and 16-50 f/2.8



  
   

 


   


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Re: Interesting ULA.

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
No but then again Congress passed a special dispensation for them a few 
years ago.  I always thought a person's wrongdoing was their 
responsibility.  But not according to the Mayors of Chicago, New York, 
Los Angeles and a number of other cities in the US.  Based on their 
logic if a murder was committed with a claw hammer the Stanly Works 
would be responsible for damages. 

mike wilson wrote:
 From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/12/31 Mon PM 04:01:49 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Interesting ULA.

 William Robb wrote:
 
 I doubt very much if it is enforcable.

 http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/4326/camera-test-fujifilm-finepix-is-1-a-narrowly-defined-user-licensing-agreement-page2.html

   
 This is probably more of a CYA thing on Fuji's part.  As far as I'm 
 concerned, if I buy one it's mine.  What I do with it is none of Fuji's 
 business.  If I break the law or cause someone harm with it, then either 
 the State or the victim or both can attempt to exact some sort of 
 retribution.  Fuji has this nonsense in their EULA so that if I use the 
 IR capabilities of their police camera to cause harm to someone else, 
 it becomes difficult for me to point a blaming finger at Fuji.
 

 Do Colt and SW have EULAs?


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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Polyhead
Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike wasn't in the 
way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a grand in a camera but won't drop 
$500 for a decent rig? WTF?

 http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-20071229c.jpg
 
 I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why 
 I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor 
 calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if 
 folks would comment on how it looks on their system.
 
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Re: HNY 2008

2008-01-01 Thread David Savage
On Jan 1, 2008 4:57 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, I've seen you picture...

I'm sorry that you've seen my picture too.

Please accept my sincerest apologies.

Cheers,

Dave ;-)

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RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread Bob W
I've just tested it from the command line (therefore using % instead
of %%) and it works. 

It only finds files in the current directory, although it can easily
be changed to search other directories. If there are no .jpg files, or
no matching .dng files then it won't do anything. In other words, if
you have a file called waters.jpg and a copy of the picture in a file
called roger.dng it won't recognise that they are the same.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of David J Brooks
 Sent: 31 December 2007 23:50
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
 
 I replaced del with echo and all i got was Is there any body out
 there, que Pink Floyd
 
 Dave
 
 On Dec 31, 2007 2:03 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've accepted the challenge I set you, and come up with an answer:
 
  for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%~nf.dng del %%~nf.jpg
 
  I haven't tested this as written, so it's at your own risk. 
 You could
  try replacing 'del' with 'echo' to see what will be deleted.
 
  --
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   Behalf Of Bob W
   Sent: 31 December 2007 18:11
   To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 
   Subject: RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
  
   I have had a dig around in Lightroom but nothing leaps out as an
  easy
   way to do it. However, I don't think you need to use Delphi to
do
  what
   you want - it should be quite straightforward to do with a batch
   script in Windows.
  
   I'd need to refresh my knowledge of this quite a bit to 
 come up with
  a
   working script, but your starter for 10 is something like this:
  
 for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%f.dng del %%f.jpg
  
   Your challenge is to split the extension off the variable and
  replace
   it with .dng
  
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Behalf Of graywolf
Sent: 31 December 2007 17:40
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
   
I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in
windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe
someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread.
   
I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that
can do some interesting things like compare files and merge
in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you
want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to
figure out.
   
Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse)
Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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Thibouille wrote:
 I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my
Lightroom library.
 The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg.

 I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only
available in Jpeg.
 I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist
in Dng format.

 Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program
that myself
 with mighty Delphi ?

 Thanks !

   
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Happy new year and a peso

2008-01-01 Thread Toine
Keep the pesos flowing

http://www.repiuk.nl/peso

I hope you like this one, it's a little blurry :)

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RE: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Bob W
I don't think Dunelts of that period were made in China (presumably
you mean the same China that makes a lot of cameras for Pentax).
Dunelt were part of Raleigh at that time and the bikes were made in
England or in the local market, so that one could have been made in
the USA. Graywolf may be able to let us know.

People decide their own priorities about what to spend their money on.
Just because someone wants to spend a lot of money on a camera it
doesn't mean they should also spend a lot on other things. I know
people who have custom-built bicycles that cost more than a car, but
who wouldn't spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on a camera.
I also know people who've cycled round the world (some more than
once), and now use beat-up old delivery bikes that they rescued from
the tip. Having an expensive bike means nothing; having an expensive
camera means nothing. What matters is to have the right bike, or the
right camera.

That Dunelt looks like a damn good bike, and one that I'd be proud to
own. It will probably outlive you; hopefully. If you do outlive the
bike perhaps you'll pick up some knowledge, wisdom and humility on the
way.

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 Sent: 01 January 2008 08:46
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 Subject: Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO
 
 Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike 
 wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a 
 grand in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?
 
  
 http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-2
 0071229c.jpg
  
  I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why 
  I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor 
  calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if 
  folks would comment on how it looks on their system.
  
  Thanks
  
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Re: Interesting ULA.

2008-01-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 31, 2007, at 17:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i.e. This lens has super powers, like Superman's x-ray vision, and  
 it  can
 look through clothes?

 I don't buy it.

 Sounds like that 72 virgins thing. Sometimes men are so gullible.


I suggest a Google Image Search if you're curious about the veracity  
of this.

It ain't pretty, but there is something to it.

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Polyhead
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:40:08 -
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't think Dunelts of that period were made in China (presumably
 you mean the same China that makes a lot of cameras for Pentax).
 Dunelt were part of Raleigh at that time and the bikes were made in
 England or in the local market, so that one could have been made in
 the USA. Graywolf may be able to let us know.
 
 People decide their own priorities about what to spend their money on.
 Just because someone wants to spend a lot of money on a camera it
 doesn't mean they should also spend a lot on other things. I know
 people who have custom-built bicycles that cost more than a car, but
 who wouldn't spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on a camera.
 I also know people who've cycled round the world (some more than
 once), and now use beat-up old delivery bikes that they rescued from
 the tip. Having an expensive bike means nothing; having an expensive
 camera means nothing. What matters is to have the right bike, or the
 right camera.

I'm not convinced that bike is right for anything. :/  I mean, its not really 
the point of a bike really I suppose, but, ...  The most fun bike i've road all 
year had a 67 long front fork and needed a steel cable to keep it from folding 
in half.  Certainly deserved its 6 star difficulty.  Chunk 666 drinks... 
allot... you expect that sort of bikes out of Chunk 666.  They made a bike from 
nothing but springs once.. the only 10star bike in their fleet.  It really is 
unridable.

 That Dunelt looks like a damn good bike, and one that I'd be proud to
 own. It will probably outlive you; hopefully. If you do outlive the
 bike perhaps you'll pick up some knowledge, wisdom and humility on the
 way.

Eh... looks heavy and slow to me.  I'll stick with my Garymond.  ... half Gary 
Fisher, Half lemond road bike.  Its done the STP classic twice now.  I just 
want an intresting bike to look at.  Its just a really boring bike.  
 --
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  Subject: Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO
  
  Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike 
  wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a 
  grand in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?
  
   
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-2
  0071229c.jpg
   
   I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why 
   I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor 
   calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if 
   folks would comment on how it looks on their system.
   
   Thanks
   
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Re: Entomological help needed

2008-01-01 Thread mike wilson
Not all mosquitos are biters.  Even of the species that are, it's only the 
females.  You have to stop judging things by appearance.
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/01 Tue AM 08:22:02 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Entomological help needed
 
 I prefer the simple Kill the damned things, method with mosquitoes.  I 
 expect there's little to dissect when you smash them.
 
 mike wilson wrote:
  P. J. Alling wrote:

  Mark Roberts wrote:
 
  
  positive identification can only be achieved through 
  dissection of the male genitalia,

  Which the skipper would thank you for, if it were aware.
  (which brings up two questions, where would you get the tiny scalpel, 
  and would you use tweezers to manipulate it?
  
 
  Moth genitalia are easy, compared to dissecting out the mouthparts of 
  Chironimidae mosquito larvae.  It's a difficult job but someone has to 
  do it
 
 

  Mark Roberts wrote:
 
  
  mike wilson wrote:
 
   
 

  From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Can anyone help ID this fella?
  http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d703021_Moth.jpg
   

  as already mentioned this is a Skipper butterfly, shown by the bend 
  just before the club of the antennae. Excellent work to get such a 
  good picture of one - these are usually as active as a caffiened-up 
  Jack Russell. But they are notoriously difficult to identify. Good luck.
 
  
  A list lurker sent me this link:
  http://www.toledo-bend.us/enlarge.shtml?caption=Silver-Spotted+Skipper+Butterflypic=gallery/skippers/IMG_40911w
 
  Looks like my skipper.
 
  At least, that's what I'm going to call it. One web site I went to 
  noted that positive identification can only be achieved through 
  dissection of the male genitalia, which is significantly more 
  involvement than I care for simply to get a photo caption (even though 
  I did have a pathologist with me when I got this shot).
 
  Oh yes: K10D and 16-50 f/2.8
 
 
 
   

 
  
 
 

 
 
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RE: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Bob W
 I'm not convinced that bike is right for anything. 

it's a roadster. It's meant for pottering about town and for short
journeys doing bits of shopping while you wear normal clothes on a
day-to-day basis. It's the single most popular and important style of
bicycle, perhaps even of transport, in the world.

Despite its humble utilitarian ordinariness this type of bike can
usually go more or less anywhere, and do more or less anything. For
all that we in the West spend zillions of pounds on fancy bikes to
cycle around the world on, the people in places like Africa, India and
the Far East are dealing with the same difficult terrain day in, day
out, year after year on this type of roadster.

  Its just a really boring bike.  

Ha!

--
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Polyhead
 Sent: 01 January 2008 10:58
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO
 
 On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:40:08 -
 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't think Dunelts of that period were made in China
(presumably
  you mean the same China that makes a lot of cameras for Pentax).
  Dunelt were part of Raleigh at that time and the bikes were made
in
  England or in the local market, so that one could have been made
in
  the USA. Graywolf may be able to let us know.
  
  People decide their own priorities about what to spend 
 their money on.
  Just because someone wants to spend a lot of money on a camera it
  doesn't mean they should also spend a lot on other things. I know
  people who have custom-built bicycles that cost more than a car,
but
  who wouldn't spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on 
 a camera.
  I also know people who've cycled round the world (some more than
  once), and now use beat-up old delivery bikes that they rescued
from
  the tip. Having an expensive bike means nothing; having an
expensive
  camera means nothing. What matters is to have the right bike, or
the
  right camera.
 
 I'm not convinced that bike is right for anything. :/  I 
 mean, its not really the point of a bike really I suppose, 
 but, ...  The most fun bike i've road all year had a 67 long 
 front fork and needed a steel cable to keep it from folding 
 in half.  Certainly deserved its 6 star difficulty.  Chunk 
 666 drinks... allot... you expect that sort of bikes out of 
 Chunk 666.  They made a bike from nothing but springs once.. 
 the only 10star bike in their fleet.  It really is unridable.
 
  That Dunelt looks like a damn good bike, and one that I'd 
 be proud to
  own. It will probably outlive you; hopefully. If you do outlive
the
  bike perhaps you'll pick up some knowledge, wisdom and 
 humility on the
  way.
 
 Eh... looks heavy and slow to me.  I'll stick with my 
 Garymond.  ... half Gary Fisher, Half lemond road bike.  Its 
 done the STP classic twice now.  I just want an intresting 
 bike to look at.  Its just a really boring bike.  
  --
   Bob
   
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
   Behalf Of Polyhead
   Sent: 01 January 2008 08:46
   To: pdml@pdml.net
   Subject: Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO
   
   Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike 
   wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a 
   grand in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?
   

   http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-2
   0071229c.jpg

I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why 
I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor 
calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if 
folks would comment on how it looks on their system.

Thanks

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Re: New years resolution to PDML.

2008-01-01 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dude.  Seriously.  You have to stop drinking.  I think you spelled 
 everything right in that post.
 

That'll do for a start.

Mark!

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Sandy Harris
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Despite its humble utilitarian ordinariness this type of bike can
 usually go more or less anywhere, and do more or less anything. For
 all that we in the West spend zillions of pounds on fancy bikes to
 cycle around the world on, the people in places like Africa, India and
 the Far East are dealing with the same difficult terrain day in, day
 out, year after year on this type of roadster.

Yes. China has been called the bicycle kingdom. It is not unusual
to see many bikes in a clump, many dozens at a time on the roads
and several hundred parked outside a school or factory.

There are all kinds, but the vast majority are single gear, rather plain
if not downright ugly, and fairly heavy. Prices start around $20 US.

-- 
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Nanjing, China

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Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread Thibouille
Thanks to all who responded to my problem.
I will try and see what solution seems the best for me.

I will let you know what I used.

As usual I notice Godfrey knows about any bits from Lightroom.
Godfrey, were you involved in the coding of it or something? ;)

Cheers... and Happy New Year to you all !!
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Re: Happy new year and a peso

2008-01-01 Thread David Savage
That is fantastic.

Cheers,

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 7:11 PM, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Keep the pesos flowing

 http://www.repiuk.nl/peso

 I hope you like this one, it's a little blurry :)

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Polyhead
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 11:30:03 -
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm not convinced that bike is right for anything. 
 
 it's a roadster. It's meant for pottering about town and for short
 journeys doing bits of shopping while you wear normal clothes on a
 day-to-day basis. It's the single most popular and important style of
 bicycle, perhaps even of transport, in the world.

Well, if you say, but I can carry more groceries on the commuter rig, faster, 
and farther, and in more comfort. :/  They just look poorly thought out to me.  
Something more like this man.

http://polyhead.net/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=randomcat=28pos=-428
Granted, sporting a flat tire in that shot.  Took it just to see how much light 
a vivitar 283 could toss out in the rainy abyss.

http://polyhead.net/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=20pos=0
An older shot of the bike and me taken atop Washington Park in Portland Oregon. 
 Clear winter day late in the evening.  Mt. St. Helen in the back ground.

 Despite its humble utilitarian ordinariness this type of bike can
 usually go more or less anywhere, and do more or less anything. For
 all that we in the West spend zillions of pounds on fancy bikes to
 cycle around the world on, the people in places like Africa, India and
 the Far East are dealing with the same difficult terrain day in, day
 out, year after year on this type of roadster.

People in africa and the far east ride crap like that because they simply can't 
afford any better.

   Its just a really boring bike.  
 
 Ha!

You say that, but it just is.  Just a high carbon steel frame, poorly welded 
together sporting stamped steel chain rings and gears.  This department store 
stuff just simply isn't worth having.

 --
  Bob
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Polyhead
  Sent: 01 January 2008 10:58
  To: pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO
  
  On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:40:08 -
  Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I don't think Dunelts of that period were made in China
 (presumably
   you mean the same China that makes a lot of cameras for Pentax).
   Dunelt were part of Raleigh at that time and the bikes were made
 in
   England or in the local market, so that one could have been made
 in
   the USA. Graywolf may be able to let us know.
   
   People decide their own priorities about what to spend 
  their money on.
   Just because someone wants to spend a lot of money on a camera it
   doesn't mean they should also spend a lot on other things. I know
   people who have custom-built bicycles that cost more than a car,
 but
   who wouldn't spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on 
  a camera.
   I also know people who've cycled round the world (some more than
   once), and now use beat-up old delivery bikes that they rescued
 from
   the tip. Having an expensive bike means nothing; having an
 expensive
   camera means nothing. What matters is to have the right bike, or
 the
   right camera.
  
  I'm not convinced that bike is right for anything. :/  I 
  mean, its not really the point of a bike really I suppose, 
  but, ...  The most fun bike i've road all year had a 67 long 
  front fork and needed a steel cable to keep it from folding 
  in half.  Certainly deserved its 6 star difficulty.  Chunk 
  666 drinks... allot... you expect that sort of bikes out of 
  Chunk 666.  They made a bike from nothing but springs once.. 
  the only 10star bike in their fleet.  It really is unridable.
  
   That Dunelt looks like a damn good bike, and one that I'd 
  be proud to
   own. It will probably outlive you; hopefully. If you do outlive
 the
   bike perhaps you'll pick up some knowledge, wisdom and 
  humility on the
   way.
  
  Eh... looks heavy and slow to me.  I'll stick with my 
  Garymond.  ... half Gary Fisher, Half lemond road bike.  Its 
  done the STP classic twice now.  I just want an intresting 
  bike to look at.  Its just a really boring bike.  
   --
Bob

   
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Polyhead
Sent: 01 January 2008 08:46
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike 
wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a 
grand in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?

 
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-2
0071229c.jpg
 
 I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why 
 I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor 
 calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if 
 folks would comment on how it looks on their system.
 
 Thanks
 
 -- 
 Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse)
 Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
 Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
 

Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Polyhead
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:43:49 +0800
Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Despite its humble utilitarian ordinariness this type of bike can
  usually go more or less anywhere, and do more or less anything. For
  all that we in the West spend zillions of pounds on fancy bikes to
  cycle around the world on, the people in places like Africa, India and
  the Far East are dealing with the same difficult terrain day in, day
  out, year after year on this type of roadster.
 
 Yes. China has been called the bicycle kingdom. It is not unusual
 to see many bikes in a clump, many dozens at a time on the roads
 and several hundred parked outside a school or factory.
 
 There are all kinds, but the vast majority are single gear, rather plain
 if not downright ugly, and fairly heavy. Prices start around $20 US.

Thats funny, because i wouldn't ride one if you PAID me $20.

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2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the 
web.

Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night 
(and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).

http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

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PESO: 1st Sunset of '08

2008-01-01 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

To cap off the first day of the new year, we here in Perth were
blessed with an absolutely stunning sunset. The sky literally looked
like it was on fire.

I had anticipated it earlier in the day. Unfortunately I was engrossed
in processing photos, completely lost track of time,  found myself
badly out of position to make the most of the situation when I
remembered. :-/ (~100kb):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2154585858_b26ccb8aed_o.jpg

This is really how it looked  there was no tampering with the
saturation to give it more pop.


Cheers,

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread cbwaters
My Year was a success.  I made the quotations list.
To hell with the Pentax gallery :)

CW
Thanks for the work Mark.  It was a fun read (again)


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 web.

 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night
 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).

 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Moron.
On Jan 1, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Polyhead wrote:

 Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike  
 wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a grand  
 in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?

 http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/ 
 Dunelt-20071229c.jpg

 I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why
 I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor
 calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if
 folks would comment on how it looks on their system.

 Thanks

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread David Savage
On Jan 1, 2008 10:59 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

 Enjoy.

I did :-)

Thanks for all the effort Mark.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread David Savage
On Jan 1, 2008 8:43 PM, Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. China has been called the bicycle kingdom. It is not unusual
 to see many bikes in a clump, many dozens at a time on the roads
 and several hundred parked outside a school or factory.

I still regret not having taken a shot of the bicycle parking lot
outside of the shipyard I visited last year.

It was pretty damn impressive :-)

Cheers,

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Re: New years resolution to PDML.

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
My work here is done.:-)

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 6:40 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Dude.  Seriously.  You have to stop drinking.  I think you spelled
  everything right in that post.
 

 That'll do for a start.

 Mark!

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Re: The New Year, Coming Right At You

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Hope you had a filter on.LOL

Nice Grace shot, and keep em comming

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 12:57 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A shot from this afternoon.
 Best to all.
 Paul and Grace.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790094

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PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a  
mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are  
more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The  
property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly  
adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the  
developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on  
building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But  
unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it  
down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on  
it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a  
photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the  
family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're  
entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg

Paul

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Re: Peso A special Peso to all of PDML at this time of year

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 31, 2007 10:07 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 31/12/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Well, the other day we we're watering plants in our summer kitchen
 window, when Liz turned the afore mentioned Jade plant, 90 Degrees.
 
 Well.. I hear a scream, no not from good sex, but from the
 kitchen. Liz say's, look at these baby's. Again i'm disappointed, no
 sex, but i managed to get these photos.
 
 An almost 20 year old Jade had flowered. None of our jades have ever
 done this. Sex i have done, but as i say...
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6789512

 Nice pic, but what is sex?

I*don't*know.:-)

I only have one kid, so i'm still unclear on the concept.:-)

Dave

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Jan 1, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Polyhead wrote:

 Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike  
 wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a grand  
 in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?

Moron.

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Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 1, 2008, at 3:44 AM, Thibouille wrote:
 ... As usual I notice Godfrey knows about any bits from Lightroom.
 Godfrey, were you involved in the coding of it or something? ;)

No, but I use it all day, every day, and study it in order to exploit  
it to the max. :-)

HNY!

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 1, 2008 10:12 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 1, 2008 10:59 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm
 
  Enjoy.

 I did :-)

 Thanks for all the effort Mark.

 Cheers,

I seem to have made it as well. Not sure if thats good or bad.:-0

Thanks Mark for your efferts.

Dave B

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Re: PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
I think the angle and crop you have here is very good Paul. It shows
what looks like the main part very well.

I hear what you are saying about old houses. We have similar problems
in this area. Our surrounding towns seem to hold these historic
buildings in high value and do everything they can to keep them. Some
have been turned into small schools or professional offices, many
others are sold for $1.00 and moved to a special area that has been
set aside for these houses. Buy the lot, move it, fix it, and you have
one hell of a nice street.

Here, in Stouffville, they just look at it as an old house and pretty
much let developer have their way. Not allowed to cut trees, well cut
them anyway and pay the fine. I hear my old farm house we lived in is
now going to be saved. I hope i had something to do with that, with my
letters and news paper letters. Now if the kids don't burn it
down...

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 10:39 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a
 mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are
 more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The
 property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly
 adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the
 developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on
 building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But
 unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it
 down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on
 it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a
 photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the
 family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're
 entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
 Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg

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Re: PESO: 1st Sunset of '08

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Looks similar to one i saw in 2007.

:-)

Very nice sky colour

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 8:53 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 To cap off the first day of the new year, we here in Perth were
 blessed with an absolutely stunning sunset. The sky literally looked
 like it was on fire.

 I had anticipated it earlier in the day. Unfortunately I was engrossed
 in processing photos, completely lost track of time,  found myself
 badly out of position to make the most of the situation when I
 remembered. :-/ (~100kb):

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2154585858_b26ccb8aed_o.jpg

 This is really how it looked  there was no tampering with the
 saturation to give it more pop.


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Re: Happy new year and a peso

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
I like that very much. Nice angle

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 5:11 AM, Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Keep the pesos flowing

 http://www.repiuk.nl/peso

 I hope you like this one, it's a little blurry :)

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Re: PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. I plan on going back there when we have some decent light.  
I'd like to get inside if possible. We'll see.
Paul
On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Nice...

 This would be worthy of a full study, Paul, to tell the story. I'd
 like more context than just this one partial photo of the house.

 Godfrey

 On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a
 mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are
 more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The
 property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly
 adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the
 developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on
 building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But
 unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it
 down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on
 it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a
 photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the
 family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're
 entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
 Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg

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Re: PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nice...

This would be worthy of a full study, Paul, to tell the story. I'd  
like more context than just this one partial photo of the house.

Godfrey

On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a
 mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are
 more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The
 property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly
 adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the
 developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on
 building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But
 unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it
 down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on
 it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a
 photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the
 family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're
 entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
 Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg

 Paul

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/1/2008 6:13:13 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since it's too big for the mailing  list post size limit, it's on the 
web.

Dave Brooks and Marnie got in  the final quotes of the year last night 
(and, yes, Scott Loveless does have  the first one for this  year).

http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

Enjoy.

==
Thanks  for your work, Mark. Fun to read as always.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Shite, the last time I scored was back in 2005... Or was it 2004? 
Anyway, just once in 5 years - not good enough...

Boris

Mark Roberts wrote:
 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the 
 web.
 
 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night 
 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm
 
 Enjoy.
 
 


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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Shite, the last time I scored was back in 2005...


MARK!

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
HAR! does not even begin to describe this year's
compilation!

Thanks, Mark!

Rick

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 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size
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 web.
 
 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of
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 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one
 for this year).
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm
 
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RE: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Bob W
We make Dorothy Parker look witty!

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 Behalf Of Mark Roberts
 Sent: 01 January 2008 13:59
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 Subject: 2007 Quotations List On Line
 
 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the

 web.
 
 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last
night 
 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm
 
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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
After compiling this year's list I went through previous lists and 
started picking all-time favorites. And then I thought...
While we're waiting for Mike Wilson's PDML Quote Book, why not pick a 
single one out to go on t-shirts, mugs, etc. through Cafe Press? I'll 
handle the logistics and donate any/all profits to the NCCF (National 
Childhood Cancer Foundation). All the rest of you have to do for now is 
vote on a favorite from the admittedly-biased selection of 10 I've 
narrowed it down to:

http://www.robertstech.com/poll.htm




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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
To bad you could not get that JD a little closer in the shot.:-)

I like it.

Dave

On Dec 31, 2007 10:52 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-20071229c.jpg

 I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why
 I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor
 calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if
 folks would comment on how it looks on their system.

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Re: Hope you like your cabernet chilled, mini GESO

2008-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
I really like all three, but especially the first one.
 The natural monochrome punctured by the red in the
sign works beautifully.

Rick

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 Here's three from the first snowfall last Friday.
 The
 Smith Winery is a 5 minute walk from my front door.
 
 http://www.primelensphoto.com/first_snow/index.html
 
 Here's wishing you all a happy (and safe) New
 Year's!
 
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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
Great idea.  And oh, baby, does the NCCF ever need the
money!

Rick

--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After compiling this year's list I went through
 previous lists and 
 started picking all-time favorites. And then I
 thought...
 While we're waiting for Mike Wilson's PDML Quote
 Book, why not pick a 
 single one out to go on t-shirts, mugs, etc. through
 Cafe Press? I'll 
 handle the logistics and donate any/all profits to
 the NCCF (National 
 Childhood Cancer Foundation). All the rest of you
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 vote on a favorite from the admittedly-biased
 selection of 10 I've 
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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 1, 2008 12:00 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great idea.  And oh, baby, does the NCCF ever need the
 money!

I still have six PDML hats left over,some were. If they sell, i'll add
that to your fund.

Dave

 Rick

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  previous lists and
  started picking all-time favorites. And then I
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  Book, why not pick a
  single one out to go on t-shirts, mugs, etc. through
  Cafe Press? I'll
  handle the logistics and donate any/all profits to
  the NCCF (National
  Childhood Cancer Foundation). All the rest of you
  have to do for now is
  vote on a favorite from the admittedly-biased
  selection of 10 I've
  narrowed it down to:
 
  http://www.robertstech.com/poll.htm
 
 
 
 
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Re: Hope you like your cabernet chilled, mini GESO

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Yes i like the first one. Gives a dreary day some punch.

Dave

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 Here's three from the first snowfall last Friday. The
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 http://www.primelensphoto.com/first_snow/index.html

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Re: PESO - Happy New Year!

2008-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
Good heavens, Frank.  It's in... in... cuh... cuh...
COLOR!!!

And here I thought everything in Toronto was in black
 white.

HNY to you and yours as well.

Rick

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Re: Peso Spikes 4-5. Last ones

2008-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
Dave, all of these are really nice.  What is the
object bearing the frost in the last one?

Rick

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=684
 Spike 4
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=683
 
 Spike 5
 
 K10D, Fa 100 etc. LR and email export.
 
 Last ones i promise.:-). I also promised not to
 drink beer at GFM, and
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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
I hope your wife doesnt read PDML, Boris.

Tim

PS. Thank you Mark. Now, it is new year.

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 Shite, the last time I scored was back in 2005... Or was it 2004?
 Anyway, just once in 5 years - not good enough...

 Boris

 Mark Roberts wrote:
 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the
 web.

 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night
 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).

 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, thanks much. It's a keeper!
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 HAR! does not even begin to describe this year's
 compilation!
 
 Thanks, Mark!
 
 Rick
 
 --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Since it's too big for the mailing list post size
  limit, it's on the 
  web.
  
  Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of
  the year last night 
  (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one
  for this year).
  
  http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm
  
  Enjoy.
  
  
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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread David Savage
On Jan 2, 2008 1:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After compiling this year's list I went through previous lists and
 started picking all-time favorites.

snip

  http://www.robertstech.com/poll.htm

Seeing as I live in a country where voting is manditory, consider my vote cast.

Cheers,

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread David Savage
I suspect she does that's why Boris is having a bit of dry spell, so to speak.

:-)

Cheers,

Dave

On Jan 2, 2008 3:11 AM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hope your wife doesnt read PDML, Boris.

 Tim

 PS. Thank you Mark. Now, it is new year.

 - Original Message -
 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Shite, the last time I scored was back in 2005... Or was it 2004?
  Anyway, just once in 5 years - not good enough...
 
  Boris

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Re: ME Super seal kit needed

2008-01-01 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:52:26 +0100 schreef Polyhead  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Today while at the local goodwill, I scored a Pentax ME Super with a  
 Pentax-M 50mm f/1.7 lens for $30.  The seals and mirror cushon are shot,  
 does anyone know where i can get a seal kit for this camera?  I already  
 have an ME super (My christmas present to myself), so now I can have a  
 spare if I get the seals replaced on this dude.

I've got my kit, at this lists advice, from ebay. Good stuff with good  
instuctions. The vendor is called Jon Goodman, ebay name interslice.

Hope this helps,

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Carlos Royo
Mark Roberts escribió:
 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the 
 web.
 
 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night 
 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm
 
 Enjoy.
 
 

Thanks a lot for the quotations list, just now when I need something to 
cheer me up.

Carlos

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread ann sanfedele
Carlos Royo wrote:

Mark Roberts escribió:
  

Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the 
web.

Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night 
(and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).

http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

Enjoy.




Thanks a lot for the quotations list, just now when I need something to 
cheer me up.

Carlos
  


Exactly my sentiments, too, Carlos
Glad December is over!

ann

  




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Re: The last hamburger...

2008-01-01 Thread graywolf
It's all those foreigners who have moved here GRIN.

What works when the taxors are more then a month away does 
not work so good when they are just next door(Revolution v. 
Civil War). In neither case was it the amount of the taxes, 
it was the unfairness of taxes. The taxes involved were a 
form of economic coercion.


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---

P. J. Alling wrote:
 They will increase all fees to make up for lost revenue.  After what's 
 your's is theirs, at least in their minds.  In Canada that's not so bad, 
 when you consider the US revolted over a tax that by todays standards 
 would be considered modest in the extreme. We put up with a Tax Code 
 that if it were imposed by another country would be considered an act of 
 war.
 
 David J Brooks wrote:
 Well, happy New Year any way Tom.:-)
 Our Government(feds)will drop our GST by 1% tomorrow. Just wondering
 what our provincial Government will up to make the difference up.

 Its a visous circle my friend

 Dave

 On Dec 31, 2007 4:46 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 ...and potato chip crumbs were my New Years Eve dinner. Made
 it through the year with a dollar and some change left over.
 Yeh

 Next year Mr Bush and company are giving me a whole $15/mo
 raise. I will be living high off the hog then, I tell you.
 Who would have thought life was going to be so good?

 Happy New Year!



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Re: PESO ~ Dear Santa ~

2008-01-01 Thread Francis
Thank you Paul (and very one else)!
I am very flattered.

I have to say that I was on this list before I knew what an aperture 
blade or a specular highlight was, and my first (much belabored) peso 
was unanimously panned, so I feel tempted to give myself a pat on the 
back for having garnered a comment like that. GRIN

Francs

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Yes, definitely a bribe:-). Very nicely composed as we've come to  
 expect from you. Beautiful light as well.
 Paul
 On Dec 29, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Francis wrote:

   
 www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=495gallery_id=tb=sb

 


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Re: 1st Sunset of '08

2008-01-01 Thread John Celio
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2154585858_b26ccb8aed_o.jpg
 
 This is really how it looked  there was no tampering with the
 saturation to give it more pop.

Beautiful!  But, don't forget to change your copyright year. ;)

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 01/01/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the 
web.

Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night 
(and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).

http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

Well done mate. A good read as always.

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread graywolf
Well when you collect old bicycles you get old bicycles. But 
if you are a teenager you still get real upset at anything 
that suggest the world existed before you were born.

Anyway this one has a 1974 registration sticker on it so it 
is at least that old. And interesting thing is it is 
obviously better built than the older (circa 1960) more 
expensive Raleigh I have bits and pieces of. The Raleigh has 
rough edges on the parts, crudely done brazes, ugly chrome, 
etc. Except for the 70'ish decals this bike is very little 
different in fit and finish from the one I had as a kid. I 
guess the 60's must have been a bad time for Raleigh. I do 
not even know if the '53-'54 version I had was made by 
Raleigh, but I am sure this one was. And, yep, Bob, made in 
Nottingham England.

On the other hand my Italian Bianchi bicycle says Made in 
China right on the frame.

However, Bob, that kid rides a BMX, so you can be sure he 
knows everything there is to know about bicycles.


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Bob W wrote:
 I don't think Dunelts of that period were made in China (presumably
 you mean the same China that makes a lot of cameras for Pentax).
 Dunelt were part of Raleigh at that time and the bikes were made in
 England or in the local market, so that one could have been made in
 the USA. Graywolf may be able to let us know.
 
 People decide their own priorities about what to spend their money on.
 Just because someone wants to spend a lot of money on a camera it
 doesn't mean they should also spend a lot on other things. I know
 people who have custom-built bicycles that cost more than a car, but
 who wouldn't spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on a camera.
 I also know people who've cycled round the world (some more than
 once), and now use beat-up old delivery bikes that they rescued from
 the tip. Having an expensive bike means nothing; having an expensive
 camera means nothing. What matters is to have the right bike, or the
 right camera.
 
 That Dunelt looks like a damn good bike, and one that I'd be proud to
 own. It will probably outlive you; hopefully. If you do outlive the
 bike perhaps you'll pick up some knowledge, wisdom and humility on the
 way.
 
 --
  Bob
  
 
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 Behalf Of Polyhead
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 Subject: Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

 Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike 
 wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a 
 grand in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?

 http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-2
 0071229c.jpg
 I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why 
 I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor 
 calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if 
 folks would comment on how it looks on their system.

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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 01/01/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

After compiling this year's list I went through previous lists and 
started picking all-time favorites. And then I thought...
While we're waiting for Mike Wilson's PDML Quote Book, why not pick a 
single one out to go on t-shirts, mugs, etc. through Cafe Press? I'll 
handle the logistics and donate any/all profits to the NCCF (National 
Childhood Cancer Foundation). All the rest of you have to do for now is 
vote on a favorite from the admittedly-biased selection of 10 I've 
narrowed it down to:

http://www.robertstech.com/poll.htm



Excellent. That was easy!!

I would buy a T-shirt with *that* quote on it.

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Re: 1st Sunset of '08

2008-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave:  My husband  I really enjoyed this.  Color very striking.  Thanks for 
sharing, and from Chicago we send our very best wishes for 2008.  Cheers, 
Christine



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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: PESO: 1st Sunset of '08


 G'day All,

 To cap off the first day of the new year, we here in Perth were
 blessed with an absolutely stunning sunset. The sky literally looked
 like it was on fire.

 I had anticipated it earlier in the day. Unfortunately I was engrossed
 in processing photos, completely lost track of time,  found myself
 badly out of position to make the most of the situation when I
 remembered. :-/ (~100kb):

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2154585858_b26ccb8aed_o.jpg

 This is really how it looked  there was no tampering with the
 saturation to give it more pop.


 Cheers,

 Dave

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Re: PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Around here the farmhouse might be improved beyond recognition then 
sold for a premium as an antique.  I think a simple tear down does is 
kinder in some ways. 

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a  
 mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are  
 more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The  
 property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly  
 adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the  
 developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on  
 building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But  
 unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it  
 down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on  
 it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a  
 photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the  
 family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're  
 entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
 Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg

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Re: Entomological help needed

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
The fruit eaters don't really impinge on my world much.  I think it's a 
sad thing that we can't stake the little blood suckers like proper 
vampires..  (The fact that the its only females suck the blood is only a 
bit ironic based on some of the women I've known, but without males the 
females wouldn't need too).

mike wilson wrote:
 Not all mosquitos are biters.  Even of the species that are, it's only the 
 females.  You have to stop judging things by appearance.
   
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/01 Tue AM 08:22:02 GMT
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 I prefer the simple Kill the damned things, method with mosquitoes.  I 
 expect there's little to dissect when you smash them.

 mike wilson wrote:
 
 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
   
 Mark Roberts wrote:

 
 
 positive identification can only be achieved through 
 dissection of the male genitalia,
   
   
 Which the skipper would thank you for, if it were aware.
 (which brings up two questions, where would you get the tiny scalpel, 
 and would you use tweezers to manipulate it?
 
 
 Moth genitalia are easy, compared to dissecting out the mouthparts of 
 Chironimidae mosquito larvae.  It's a difficult job but someone has to 
 do it


   
   
 Mark Roberts wrote:

 
 
 mike wilson wrote:

  

   
   
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Can anyone help ID this fella?
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d703021_Moth.jpg
  
   
   
 as already mentioned this is a Skipper butterfly, shown by the bend 
 just before the club of the antennae. Excellent work to get such a 
 good picture of one - these are usually as active as a caffiened-up 
 Jack Russell. But they are notoriously difficult to identify. Good luck.

 
 
 A list lurker sent me this link:
 http://www.toledo-bend.us/enlarge.shtml?caption=Silver-Spotted+Skipper+Butterflypic=gallery/skippers/IMG_40911w

 Looks like my skipper.

 At least, that's what I'm going to call it. One web site I went to 
 noted that positive identification can only be achieved through 
 dissection of the male genitalia, which is significantly more 
 involvement than I care for simply to get a photo caption (even though 
 I did have a pathologist with me when I got this shot).

 Oh yes: K10D and 16-50 f/2.8



  
   
   
 
 
   
   
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Re: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Paul:  1832-wow, that's old.  Looking forward to the photo story of this 
charming farmhouse.  It's sad, indeed, to lose. Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Endangered History


A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a
 mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are
 more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The
 property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly
 adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the
 developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on
 building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But
 unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it
 down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on
 it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a
 photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the
 family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're
 entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
 Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg

 Paul

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Re: test

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 1, 2008 3:04 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 test

Cancelled for today. Its been rescheduled for Wednesday

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Re: Peso Spikes 4-5. Last ones

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Rick.

Its a used up suite holder for in the bird feeding area,

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 12:33 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave, all of these are really nice.  What is the
 object bearing the frost in the last one?

 Rick


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  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=684
  Spike 4
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=683
 
  Spike 5
 
  K10D, Fa 100 etc. LR and email export.
 
  Last ones i promise.:-). I also promised not to
  drink beer at GFM, and
  look were that got me.:-)
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
It reminds me of the historic house in Melbourne Florida.  I was 
protected by being on an historic registry, bronze plaque and 
everything.  Had a local reputation of being a haunted house, due to a 
horrific murder committed on the premises about 100 years earlier.  Had 
a successful restaurant operating within.  The next year it was the 
parking lot for a new CVS drugstore.

David J Brooks wrote:
 I think the angle and crop you have here is very good Paul. It shows
 what looks like the main part very well.

 I hear what you are saying about old houses. We have similar problems
 in this area. Our surrounding towns seem to hold these historic
 buildings in high value and do everything they can to keep them. Some
 have been turned into small schools or professional offices, many
 others are sold for $1.00 and moved to a special area that has been
 set aside for these houses. Buy the lot, move it, fix it, and you have
 one hell of a nice street.

 Here, in Stouffville, they just look at it as an old house and pretty
 much let developer have their way. Not allowed to cut trees, well cut
 them anyway and pay the fine. I hear my old farm house we lived in is
 now going to be saved. I hope i had something to do with that, with my
 letters and news paper letters. Now if the kids don't burn it
 down...

 Dave

 On Jan 1, 2008 10:39 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a
 mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are
 more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The
 property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly
 adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the
 developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on
 building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But
 unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it
 down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on
 it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a
 photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the
 family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're
 entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
 Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg

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Re: The New Year, Coming Right At You

2008-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Paul  Grace:  Happy New Year.  Here's wishing you the very best in 2008. 
Cheers, Christine


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Subject: The New Year, Coming Right At You


A shot from this afternoon.
 Best to all.
 Paul and Grace.

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Re: Peso A special Peso to all of PDML at this time of year

2008-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
David:  Very lovely, and a fun story as well.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Peso A special Peso to all of PDML at this time of year


 Wow, If we had not turned this plant around, we would have missed this.

 Back in 1990, my SO planted a fallen leave from a Jade plant. One
 leaf, thats it.

 Now its a strong healthy plant about 13 high and about 10 wide.

 Well, the other day we we're watering plants in our summer kitchen
 window, when Liz turned the afore mentioned Jade plant, 90 Degrees.

 Well.. I hear a scream, no not from good sex, but from the
 kitchen. Liz say's, look at these baby's. Again i'm disappointed, no
 sex, but i managed to get these photos.

 An almost 20 year old Jade had flowered. None of our jades have ever
 done this. Sex i have done, but as i say...

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6789512

 K10D, FA 100 F2.8 Macro, SR On, handheld, minor tweaks in LR

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Re: Happy new year and a peso

2008-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Toine:  very nice.  Cheers, Christine



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Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:11 AM
Subject: Happy new year and a peso


 Keep the pesos flowing

 http://www.repiuk.nl/peso

 I hope you like this one, it's a little blurry :)

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Re: Happy new year and a peso

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought you'd be channeling frank, but this is quite different, and 
very nice.  (Hum, that came out a bit wrong.  I'm not dissing franks 
work, really.)

Toine wrote:
 Keep the pesos flowing

 http://www.repiuk.nl/peso

 I hope you like this one, it's a little blurry :)

   


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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Peter Alling
Hey.  I got six quotes this year.  Either I've gotten wittier, or the standards 
of the collator have fallen precipitously.  I know which way I'm betting.


Mark Roberts wrote:
 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the web.

 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night (and, 
 yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).

 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Peter Alling
You speak for us all, please don't speak to him.

Moron.
On Jan 1, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Polyhead wrote:

  Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike  
  wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a grand  
  in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?
 
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/ 
  Dunelt-20071229c.jpg
 
  I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why
  I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor
  calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if
  folks would comment on how it looks on their system.
 
  Thanks
 
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Re: Hope you like your cabernet chilled, mini GESO

2008-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Brendan:  No favorites here; I love all 3.  Happy New Year to you as well. 
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Hope you like your cabernet chilled, mini GESO


 Here's three from the first snowfall last Friday. The
 Smith Winery is a 5 minute walk from my front door.

 http://www.primelensphoto.com/first_snow/index.html

 Here's wishing you all a happy (and safe) New Year's!

 Cheers!

 -Brendan


 
 
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Re: PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Our old house was haunted. I'll go to my grave knowing this as true.

I have talked to others that lived in it before and after me. They had
not heard what i saw and heard in the house, and their stories are the
same as mine.

Not just old house noises. Its haunted.

It was a cool place to live in.

Dave

On Jan 1, 2008 2:10 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It reminds me of the historic house in Melbourne Florida.  I was
 protected by being on an historic registry, bronze plaque and
 everything.  Had a local reputation of being a haunted house, due to a
 horrific murder committed on the premises about 100 years earlier.  Had
 a successful restaurant operating within.  The next year it was the
 parking lot for a new CVS drugstore.


 David J Brooks wrote:
  I think the angle and crop you have here is very good Paul. It shows
  what looks like the main part very well.
 
  I hear what you are saying about old houses. We have similar problems
  in this area. Our surrounding towns seem to hold these historic
  buildings in high value and do everything they can to keep them. Some
  have been turned into small schools or professional offices, many
  others are sold for $1.00 and moved to a special area that has been
  set aside for these houses. Buy the lot, move it, fix it, and you have
  one hell of a nice street.
 
  Here, in Stouffville, they just look at it as an old house and pretty
  much let developer have their way. Not allowed to cut trees, well cut
  them anyway and pay the fine. I hear my old farm house we lived in is
  now going to be saved. I hope i had something to do with that, with my
  letters and news paper letters. Now if the kids don't burn it
  down...
 
  Dave
 
  On Jan 1, 2008 10:39 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a
  mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are
  more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The
  property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly
  adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the
  developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on
  building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But
  unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it
  down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on
  it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a
  photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the
  family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're
  entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
  Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg
 
  Paul
 
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Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
It would be possible to check for byte by byte comparisons, by using
FC a dos utility available on all windows systems to delete
duplicate files no matter what their name, I'm sure that linux/unix has
such a utility but I can't remember it's name right now.  There are
several problems to overcome, none of which will solve the most
important one.  There must be a way for the computer to recognize a
duplicate image, not a duplicate file.  It's easy enough to write
something that will delete files with the same name in the same or
different directories.  A bit more complicated to recognize and delete
duplicate files with different names, (and this begins to become time
consuming), but I know of no foolproof method to automate deletion of
duplicate visual images,  at least not with the computing power
available in a PC or Mac.

Bob W wrote:
 I've just tested it from the command line (therefore using % instead
 of %%) and it works. 

 It only finds files in the current directory, although it can easily
 be changed to search other directories. If there are no .jpg files, or
 no matching .dng files then it won't do anything. In other words, if
 you have a file called waters.jpg and a copy of the picture in a file
 called roger.dng it won't recognise that they are the same.

 --
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of David J Brooks
 Sent: 31 December 2007 23:50
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

 I replaced del with echo and all i got was Is there any body out
 there, que Pink Floyd

 Dave

 On Dec 31, 2007 2:03 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've accepted the challenge I set you, and come up with an answer:

 for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%~nf.dng del %%~nf.jpg

 I haven't tested this as written, so it's at your own risk. 
   
 You could
 
 try replacing 'del' with 'echo' to see what will be deleted.

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 Behalf Of Bob W
 Sent: 31 December 2007 18:11
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 
 Subject: RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

 I have had a dig around in Lightroom but nothing leaps out as an
 
 easy
   
 way to do it. However, I don't think you need to use Delphi to
 
 do
   
 what
   
 you want - it should be quite straightforward to do with a batch
 script in Windows.

 I'd need to refresh my knowledge of this quite a bit to 
 
 come up with
 
 a
   
 working script, but your starter for 10 is something like this:

   for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%f.dng del %%f.jpg

 Your challenge is to split the extension off the variable and
 
 replace
   
 it with .dng

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 Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

 I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in
 windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe
 someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread.

 I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that
 can do some interesting things like compare files and merge
 in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you
 want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to
 figure out.

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 Thibouille wrote:
   
 I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my
 
 Lightroom library.
   
 The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg.

 I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only
 
 available in Jpeg.
   
 I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist
 
 in Dng format.
   
 Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program
 
 that myself
   
 with mighty Delphi ?

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Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:

It would be possible to check for byte by byte comparisons, by using
FC a dos utility available on all windows systems to delete
duplicate files no matter what their name, I'm sure that linux/unix has
such a utility but I can't remember it's name right now.  There are
several problems to overcome, none of which will solve the most
important one.  There must be a way for the computer to recognize a
duplicate image, not a duplicate file. 

If one is in JPEG format and the other is in a straight bitmapped 
format like TIFF/RAW/DNG they won't be the same image, technically. 
They certainly won't be the same byte-for-byte. Not even close.


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Re: Peso A special Peso to all of PDML at this time of year

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks you.

Its a really need looking flower. Its hard to tell, but its less than
1 1/2 across. Flowers are very small, about 1/4 

Dave.

On Jan 1, 2008 3:32 PM, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Subject: Peso A special Peso to all of PDML at this time of year


  Wow, If we had not turned this plant around, we would have missed this.
 
  Back in 1990, my SO planted a fallen leave from a Jade plant. One
  leaf, thats it.
 
  Now its a strong healthy plant about 13 high and about 10 wide.
 
  Well, the other day we we're watering plants in our summer kitchen
  window, when Liz turned the afore mentioned Jade plant, 90 Degrees.
 
  Well.. I hear a scream, no not from good sex, but from the
  kitchen. Liz say's, look at these baby's. Again i'm disappointed, no
  sex, but i managed to get these photos.
 
  An almost 20 year old Jade had flowered. None of our jades have ever
  done this. Sex i have done, but as i say...
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6789512
 
  K10D, FA 100 F2.8 Macro, SR On, handheld, minor tweaks in LR
 
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Re: PESO: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Sorenson
Just what the world needs...10 more McMansions at the mere cost of 
losing some more of our history.  :{  Would be nice if someone could 
see the value in moving it.  Here's hoping you can return for more pix 
before it's gone.

-p

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a  
 mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are  
 more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The  
 property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly  
 adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the  
 developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on  
 building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But  
 unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it  
 down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on  
 it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a  
 photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the  
 family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're  
 entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
 Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg
 
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Re: test

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
My entire ISP disappeared from the Internet, no web pages not SMPT 
server no POP server, and when I dialed customer service, I dialed the 
wrong number... 
I was a bit worried there for a moment.

David J Brooks wrote:
 On Jan 1, 2008 3:04 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 test
 

 Cancelled for today. Its been rescheduled for Wednesday

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Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I was responding to someone who made the complaint that they couldn't 
delete the same image with different names.  Just going through all the 
reasons it would be difficult or impossible.  (I kind of thought your 
point was implied).

Mark Roberts wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 It would be possible to check for byte by byte comparisons, by using
 FC a dos utility available on all windows systems to delete
 duplicate files no matter what their name, I'm sure that linux/unix has
 such a utility but I can't remember it's name right now.  There are
 several problems to overcome, none of which will solve the most
 important one.  There must be a way for the computer to recognize a
 duplicate image, not a duplicate file. 
 

 If one is in JPEG format and the other is in a straight bitmapped 
 format like TIFF/RAW/DNG they won't be the same image, technically. 
 They certainly won't be the same byte-for-byte. Not even close.


   


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Re: The last hamburger...

2008-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling

  The taxes involved were a 
 form of economic coercion.
And thats different from today in what way?

Lets see, you get a tax break for buying a house, ( but only on credit, 
not with cash),  you get a tax break for being married, (and having 
children).  You get taxed more if you  use alcohol, or smoke tobacco.  
The tax system is used to punish for improper behavior, or in some cases 
proper behavior.  Federal income taxes are so complicated that you need 
an expert to even find out what some of the tax breaks and pitfalls are, 
and even then the contradictory parts can bring you to grief.  Nothing 
coercive about our current tax system.  What torques me more than 
anything else is we vote for the a**h***s.


graywolf wrote:
 It's all those foreigners who have moved here GRIN.

 What works when the taxors are more then a month away does 
 not work so good when they are just next door(Revolution v. 
 Civil War). In neither case was it the amount of the taxes, 
 it was the unfairness of taxes. The taxes involved were a 
 form of economic coercion.


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 ---

 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 They will increase all fees to make up for lost revenue.  After what's 
 your's is theirs, at least in their minds.  In Canada that's not so bad, 
 when you consider the US revolted over a tax that by todays standards 
 would be considered modest in the extreme. We put up with a Tax Code 
 that if it were imposed by another country would be considered an act of 
 war.

 David J Brooks wrote:
 
 Well, happy New Year any way Tom.:-)
 Our Government(feds)will drop our GST by 1% tomorrow. Just wondering
 what our provincial Government will up to make the difference up.

 Its a visous circle my friend

 Dave

 On Dec 31, 2007 4:46 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
 ...and potato chip crumbs were my New Years Eve dinner. Made
 it through the year with a dollar and some change left over.
 Yeh

 Next year Mr Bush and company are giving me a whole $15/mo
 raise. I will be living high off the hog then, I tell you.
 Who would have thought life was going to be so good?

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Re: The New Year, Coming Right At You

2008-01-01 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Christine. We got a foot of snow today, so we had some more fun. 
Paul
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From: Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul  Grace:  Happy New Year.  Here's wishing you the very best in 2008. 
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:57 PM
 Subject: The New Year, Coming Right At You
 
 
 A shot from this afternoon.
  Best to all.
  Paul and Grace.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790094
 
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Re: Endangered History

2008-01-01 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Christine. Yes, 1832 is old for Michigan, particularly old for the far 
boonies of Detroit. And it's really old for Chicago (which is quite a bit 
younger than Detroit). Not old for the east coast. In my previous home town, 
Matawan, New Jersey, the oldest house was built in 1687. And of course these 
would all be youngsters in many parts of Europe.
Paul
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From: Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul:  1832-wow, that's old.  Looking forward to the photo story of this 
 charming farmhouse.  It's sad, indeed, to lose. Cheers, Christine
 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:39 AM
 Subject: PESO: Endangered History
 
 
 A sad pic, shot on a gloomy day. This is a farmhouse located about a
  mile from my house. It was built in 1832, although some additions are
  more recent. Ever since I lived here, it sat on 27 wooded acres. The
  property was recently sold to a developer, and the area directly
  adjacent to the house has been clear cut and bulldozed. I'm sure the
  developer will leave the rest of the trees because he plans on
  building 10 houses that will be priced at a couple million each. But
  unless someone pays to move the farmhouse, he's going to tear it
  down. The only shot I could really get was this tight crop. Worked on
  it for quite a while. Don't think it succeeds all that well as a
  photo, but at least it records part of the building. By the way, the
  family that built it still owned it when it was sold. I guess they're
  entitled to cash in, but it's still sad.
  Shot with the DA 16-45, f5.6, on a very dark and gloomy day:
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6790967size=lg
 
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Re: test

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 1, 2008 4:03 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My entire ISP disappeared from the Internet, no web pages not SMPT
 server no POP server, and when I dialed customer service, I dialed the
 wrong number...

Thats what you get for using a rotary phone.:-)

Dave
 I was a bit worried there for a moment.


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  test
 
 
  Cancelled for today. Its been rescheduled for Wednesday
 
  Dave
 
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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
Oh, my goods, I'm made it this year too.

Tim Typo
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Subject: 2007 Quotations List On Line


 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the
 web.

 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night
 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).

 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm

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Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2008-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:


I was responding to someone who made the complaint that they couldn't 
delete the same image with different names.  Just going through all the 
reasons it would be difficult or impossible.  (I kind of thought your 
point was implied).

Ah, sorry. That's what I get for not reading the discussion from the 
beginning.

I think there is software that will do this byte-for-byte comparison to 
find duplicate images, but I've never looked into it because *my* 
problem is having multiple copies of an image that are almost, but *not 
quite* identical ;-)
 

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Happy New Year!

2008-01-01 Thread Scott Loveless
voice of the guy who stole Fry's bicycleHappy New Year!/voice

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OT speling

2008-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Just to show i'm not the only one that was pushed through the education system.

[quote]i am a pro i run my own online news paper The 

windos 2000 pro . i wating till i can get new coputers bilt to up
grade os and for what ever comes after Vista. that and i do not fell
like reinstalling EVERY thing i have. i have little problems with it.

i use PS CS becuse i not seen CS3 in the price i am willing to pay.

my coputers have ADM chips. my big computer has 2 chips NOT 2 core
but 2 chips. i had both my lab top and desk top computers bilt about 5
years a go and are well and kicking.

i use Ivew. it is an older version but it works well for my .jpg work
flow i have lightroom but i need xp for it so for now i use Raw
therapee or the in PS converter for RAW[/quote]

This is in fun BTW


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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Bob Blakely
Making the PDML quotations list is like winning the Special Olympics... It 
doesn't mean we can compete with the pros, and it would probably be better 
if we didn't qualify.

Regards,
Bob...
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Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 My Year was a success.  I made the quotations list.
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Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-01 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote:
 Since it's too big for the mailing list post size limit, it's on the 
 web.
 
 Dave Brooks and Marnie got in the final quotes of the year last night 
 (and, yes, Scott Loveless does have the first one for this year).
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2007.htm
 
This looks like my first time on the quotes list, and I got 6.  Whee!

Just a quick observation.  Comparing the number of quotes attributed to 
Doug to the number of times he actually posts to the list, it seems that 
he gets a Mark! every time he opens his trap.  g

(I love ya, Doug.  I really do.)

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Re: Another Bicycle Shot --PESO

2008-01-01 Thread Polyhead
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:32:11 -0500
graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well when you collect old bicycles you get old bicycles. But 
 if you are a teenager you still get real upset at anything 
 that suggest the world existed before you were born.

Not that at all, the stuff is just horridly built.

 Anyway this one has a 1974 registration sticker on it so it 
 is at least that old. And interesting thing is it is 
 obviously better built than the older (circa 1960) more 
 expensive Raleigh I have bits and pieces of. The Raleigh has 
 rough edges on the parts, crudely done brazes, ugly chrome, 
 etc. Except for the 70'ish decals this bike is very little 
 different in fit and finish from the one I had as a kid. I 
 guess the 60's must have been a bad time for Raleigh. I do 
 not even know if the '53-'54 version I had was made by 
 Raleigh, but I am sure this one was. And, yep, Bob, made in 
 Nottingham England.

Thats not suprising, most bikes from that era were pretty horrible.  Most were 
electro forged construction.  nasty stuff.

 On the other hand my Italian Bianchi bicycle says Made in 
 China right on the frame.

Yea, most of their stuff is these days.  Its why we call the pista the 
pistashit.  Made in taiwan I'll ride, made in china, no fucking way.

 However, Bob, that kid rides a BMX, so you can be sure he 
 knows everything there is to know about bicycles.

I ride everything.  FYI.  my kids bike is made in america.  Hand cut tripple 
butted tubing, hand welded together in purpose built jig.  Bare frame is about 
$400.  One of the lightest cromo frames on the market.  Infact, at this point, 
cromo is lighter than aluminum. The hubs, also made in america, riding on 
japanese built ceramic bearings.  Bars, made in america, seat post, made in 
america.  If you want to build one of my kids bikes, better bring about $1500.

 
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 Bob W wrote:
  I don't think Dunelts of that period were made in China (presumably
  you mean the same China that makes a lot of cameras for Pentax).
  Dunelt were part of Raleigh at that time and the bikes were made in
  England or in the local market, so that one could have been made in
  the USA. Graywolf may be able to let us know.
  
  People decide their own priorities about what to spend their money on.
  Just because someone wants to spend a lot of money on a camera it
  doesn't mean they should also spend a lot on other things. I know
  people who have custom-built bicycles that cost more than a car, but
  who wouldn't spend more than a couple of hundred dollars on a camera.
  I also know people who've cycled round the world (some more than
  once), and now use beat-up old delivery bikes that they rescued from
  the tip. Having an expensive bike means nothing; having an expensive
  camera means nothing. What matters is to have the right bike, or the
  right camera.
  
  That Dunelt looks like a damn good bike, and one that I'd be proud to
  own. It will probably outlive you; hopefully. If you do outlive the
  bike perhaps you'll pick up some knowledge, wisdom and humility on the
  way.
  
  --
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  Would be a great shot if that made in china hunk of crap bike 
  wasn't in the way.  . really.. people.. you'll drop a 
  grand in a camera but won't drop $500 for a decent rig? WTF?
 
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Bicycles/Dunelt-2
  0071229c.jpg
  I kind of like the converging lines in the sky which is why 
  I darkened it down a bit. Not real sure of my monitor 
  calibration yet on the new OS load, so it would be nice if 
  folks would comment on how it looks on their system.
 
  Thanks
 
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