Re: PESO - Senior Portrait

2008-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 08/01/08, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:

A recent senior portrait taken in the home of a friend.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm
ISO 100, 1/60 sec @ f/11, handheld
Single Alien Bee monolight

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ambersenior_0079.htm

Hi Bruce,

I wouldn't normally comment if I'm not disposed to a photo, but your
attitude to photography is mature enough to withstand an attack ;-)

I won't tell you how to correct the pic, but what I will do is tell you
what bugs me about it.

IMO:

1. The crop is to close or too loose. I want to see more, or see less.
If more, much more. At least the entire fiddle (I play bluegrass so
that's not a violin ;-) I know she's holding the bow - I can *just*
catch sight of it.

2. I do like the lighting but the overall effect is slightly too low
key. The fiddle is all mixed up in the hair.

3. That background is atrocious and highly distracting. A wider crop may
help, or a tighter shot wide open would soften it.

4. So, aside from all that, what have the bloody Romans ever done for us?!

HTH

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Re: Is an F80-200 worth $40?

2008-01-09 Thread Thibouille
The only problem with the F 70-210 and the reason why I sold it (I
needed money other wise I would have kept it but well..) is the
weight.

It is a tank, very sturdy IMO but sooo heavy :(

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 08/01/08, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed:

 The Buy American idea 
was intended to keep American workers employed, right?

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

To name a few in this country - Land Rover, Honda, BMW-Mini - all built
by Brits. We gave up owning our own car industry after we destroyed it
in through 1970s with petty disputes. We know how to design and build
cars, but we don't know how to treat our employees well so that they do
a good job. We paid the price.

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Re: A couple more bicycle photos -peso

2008-01-09 Thread Polyhead
ahh, buuut! 

) When reasonably necessary to avoid hazardous conditions including, but not 
limited to, fixed or moving objects,
  parked or moving vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards or 
other conditions that make continued
  operation along the right curb or edge unsafe or to avoid unsafe operation in 
a lane on the roadway that is too narrow
  for a bicycle and vehicle to travel safely side by side.

to avoid hazardous conditions of being overtaken agressively on a road that is 
too narrow, you ride in the middle of hte lane.  In oregon, bicycles have full 
use of lane.  The edge of the road is also always full of debre and glass, so.. 
we can and do ride in the middle of the road, and if you don't like it, move 
out.

 Polyhead wrote:
  Yea well, keep in mind, in some states, like Oregon, By law,
  bicyclist have full use of the right hand lane.  In other words, by
  law, we are SUPPOSE to ride in the middle of the lane and you ARE
  suppose to just sit behind us till you can find a proper place to
  pass.
  
 Once again, you're full of it.
 
  From http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/bike_ped_statutes_2007.pdf
 
 814.430 Improper use of lanes; exceptions; penalty. (1) A person commits 
 the offense of improper use of lanes by a bicycle if the person is 
 operating a bicycle on a roadway at less than the normal speed of 
 traffic using the roadway at that time and place under the existing 
 conditions and the person does not ride as close as practicable to the 
 right curb or edge of the roadway.
 
 Nincompoop.
 
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PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Alastair Robertson
http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
nice eyelashes too.

An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little fellow.
K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
many on the list post those types of image it seems.

Comments  Critiques welcome

Alastair

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Joe,
That was the hot rod page. No matter, I found the Super Stock page.  
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=772282  Nice work.

Small world. I shot and wrote for both Super Stock and Hot Rod in the  
seventies. and into the early eighties at least. Steve Collison,  
longtime editor of SSDI, who left us some years ago, was a good buddy  
of mine. I still do an occasional buff book article, but they're few  
and far between these days. Too time consuming.
Paul

On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok I am back, how about General Motors = Geniue Mistake, I guess  
 you have heard the one about Pontiac, which I will not say. There  
 are a lot of sayings for all car makes. But what I think really  
 matters is if you like what you drive. All the car companies have  
 had bad cars at sometime...It's just that I like Ford products, not  
 so much in favor of the newer cars. I will never own a import period..
 Here is a link to a Mustang GT  that I photographed for Hot Rod and  
 Super Ford Magazine. Just the Hot Rod Magazine stuff is there.
  http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=753552

 And  If you look here,  you will see a Hemi Cuda that I  
 photographed for Super Stock and Drag Illustrated Magazine, just  
 the published pages from Super Stock...
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=753552

 Hemi Cudas are real nice and also Ford Thunderbolts are nice. I  
 photographed a Thunderbolt also for Super Ford Magazine.For those  
 who do not know what a Thunderbolt is, It is a 1964 Ford Fairlane 2  
 dr sedan with a 427 C.I . Fe Motor stuffed between the shock towers  
 which had to be modified for the big motor to fit...Joe

  -- Original message --
 From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 As long as we're listing these -

 How about

 Found On Road Dead.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message -
 From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list


 Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge

 Christian

 Ken Waller wrote:
 First On Race Day 

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message -
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 Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list


 You know FORD is actually an acronym...

 Found On Road Dead.

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice one. I like the natural, camouflage environment. A wee bit more  
DOF would be nice, but I know that's tough to achieve without going  
to a very high ISO when shooting handheld. Good work. Show us more.
Paul
On Jan 9, 2008, at 5:38 AM, Alastair Robertson wrote:

 http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
 nice eyelashes too.

 An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this  
 little fellow.
 K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
 These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
 PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
 I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
 many on the list post those types of image it seems.

 Comments  Critiques welcome

 Alastair

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Re: PESO - Senior Portrait

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 9, 2008 3:51 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 4. So, aside from all that, what have the bloody Romans ever done for us?!

Well, our pilaging skills were pretty poor before they showed up.

Dave

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Re: Peso Fog shots at the farm

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Ken.

Yes, i think it would,i'll fix that.

Dave

On Jan 8, 2008 5:15 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave, I like the fence the best of the three.
 I'd prefer the RH side end of the fence be out of the picture, I think it
 would draw the eye in more than as you now have it.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message -
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Peso Fog shots at the farm


  Took Liz to her school bus on Sunday (she parks it at the farm) and it
  was pretty darn foggy. I did not bring a camera
  and missed out on some shots.
  Well, the fog was with us Monday, and i ventured out for a while. Took
  a few photos and after almost getting hit a few times headed home. Why
  is it when visibility is about 50' people still want to drive the
  speed limit and no lights on.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817896
  Fence
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817895
  Trees
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817894
  My favorite pond
 
  K10D, 16-45 F4 and WB and sharpen in LR
 
  Dave


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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 9, 2008 3:56 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We know how to design and build
 cars, but we don't know how to treat our employees well so that they do
 a good job. We paid the price.

Sounds like some of those managers made it over to the company I used
to work for,

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Re: PESO - Senior Portrait

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Ditto

Dave

On Jan 8, 2008 10:45 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Simply a wonderful shot !
 Composition, subject, exposure great!

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f


 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO - Senior Portrait


 A recent senior portrait taken in the home of a friend.
 
  Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm
  ISO 100, 1/60 sec @ f/11, handheld
  Single Alien Bee monolight
 
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ambersenior_0079.htm
 
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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread 272yb
Hey Paul, Thanks..
Steve was also a friend of mine.As you know Steve lived in Jersey and spent a 
lot of time at Atco Dragway, One of his last car projects was getting the 
little black 5.0 LX to run very well. 
I spent a lot of time at different dragstrips, either racing or 
photographing.Joe

 -- Original message --
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Joe,
 That was the hot rod page. No matter, I found the Super Stock page.  
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=772282  Nice work.
 
 Small world. I shot and wrote for both Super Stock and Hot Rod in the  
 seventies. and into the early eighties at least. Steve Collison,  
 longtime editor of SSDI, who left us some years ago, was a good buddy  
 of mine. I still do an occasional buff book article, but they're few  
 and far between these days. Too time consuming.
 Paul
 
 On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ok I am back, how about General Motors = Geniue Mistake, I guess  
  you have heard the one about Pontiac, which I will not say. There  
  are a lot of sayings for all car makes. But what I think really  
  matters is if you like what you drive. All the car companies have  
  had bad cars at sometime...It's just that I like Ford products, not  
  so much in favor of the newer cars. I will never own a import period..
  Here is a link to a Mustang GT  that I photographed for Hot Rod and  
  Super Ford Magazine. Just the Hot Rod Magazine stuff is there.
   http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=753552
 
  And  If you look here,  you will see a Hemi Cuda that I  
  photographed for Super Stock and Drag Illustrated Magazine, just  
  the published pages from Super Stock...
  http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=753552
 
  Hemi Cudas are real nice and also Ford Thunderbolts are nice. I  
  photographed a Thunderbolt also for Super Ford Magazine.For those  
  who do not know what a Thunderbolt is, It is a 1964 Ford Fairlane 2  
  dr sedan with a 427 C.I . Fe Motor stuffed between the shock towers  
  which had to be modified for the big motor to fit...Joe
 
   -- Original message --
  From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  As long as we're listing these -
 
  How about
 
  Found On Road Dead.
 
  Kenneth Waller
  http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
 
 
  Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
 
  Christian
 
  Ken Waller wrote:
  First On Race Day 
 
  Kenneth Waller
  http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
  - Original Message -
  From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
 
 
  You know FORD is actually an acronym...
 
  Found On Road Dead.
 
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Re: PESO (x4): How much faith.... (Whoops, with corrections)

2008-01-09 Thread William Robb

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From: David Savage 
Subject: Re: PESO (x4): How much faith (Whoops, with corrections)




 Naked babe on the beach usually does it for me.
 
 People tend to get their nose out of joint if you take pictures of
 their kid at the beach.
 

Take your own. 

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread William Robb

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From: David J Brooks 
Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list



 
 Thats basically what i concluded. I'm buying a rocket next time
 

http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/gallery/titan/titan1.html

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
I remember Steve's place near Atco. I visited him there several times. When I 
was working for Hearst I used a pen name in SSDI. It was Keven Michaels -- 
Steve's son's name. I lived in central Jersey near Englishtown. Steve was at my 
house several times as well. I originally met him when he was at CARS magazine 
with Don Chaikin, who went on to become auto editor of Popular Mechanics. Don 
and I remain friends. Do you know what happened to Kathy, Steve's wife, after 
he passed on? I felt very bad for her. He was fairly young and quite healthy. 
Then one day he wass gone.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hey Paul, Thanks..
 Steve was also a friend of mine.As you know Steve lived in Jersey and spent a 
 lot of time at Atco Dragway, One of his last car projects was getting the 
 little 
 black 5.0 LX to run very well. 
 I spent a lot of time at different dragstrips, either racing or 
 photographing.Joe
 
  -- Original message --
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hi Joe,
  That was the hot rod page. No matter, I found the Super Stock page.  
  http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=772282  Nice work.
  
  Small world. I shot and wrote for both Super Stock and Hot Rod in the  
  seventies. and into the early eighties at least. Steve Collison,  
  longtime editor of SSDI, who left us some years ago, was a good buddy  
  of mine. I still do an occasional buff book article, but they're few  
  and far between these days. Too time consuming.
  Paul
  
  On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Ok I am back, how about General Motors = Geniue Mistake, I guess  
   you have heard the one about Pontiac, which I will not say. There  
   are a lot of sayings for all car makes. But what I think really  
   matters is if you like what you drive. All the car companies have  
   had bad cars at sometime...It's just that I like Ford products, not  
   so much in favor of the newer cars. I will never own a import period..
   Here is a link to a Mustang GT  that I photographed for Hot Rod and  
   Super Ford Magazine. Just the Hot Rod Magazine stuff is there.
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=753552
  
   And  If you look here,  you will see a Hemi Cuda that I  
   photographed for Super Stock and Drag Illustrated Magazine, just  
   the published pages from Super Stock...
   http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=753552
  
   Hemi Cudas are real nice and also Ford Thunderbolts are nice. I  
   photographed a Thunderbolt also for Super Ford Magazine.For those  
   who do not know what a Thunderbolt is, It is a 1964 Ford Fairlane 2  
   dr sedan with a 427 C.I . Fe Motor stuffed between the shock towers  
   which had to be modified for the big motor to fit...Joe
  
-- Original message --
   From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   As long as we're listing these -
  
   How about
  
   Found On Road Dead.
  
   Kenneth Waller
   http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
  
  
   Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
  
   Christian
  
   Ken Waller wrote:
   First On Race Day 
  
   Kenneth Waller
   http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
  
   - Original Message -
   From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
  
  
   You know FORD is actually an acronym...
  
   Found On Road Dead.
  
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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread graywolf
I wonder if you bought that Mustang new?

I had a 80 Pinto that was made in Michigan, my girlfriend at 
the time had one that was made in Canada, and a friend had 
one that was made in Mexico. None of them had any problems 
while we owned them. Mine had 119K miles on it when I sold 
it. You can always get a lemon, hopefully when you do you 
live in a state with anti-lemon laws.

I have had problems with almost all the cars I bought used. 
Most owners do not seem to get the idea of maintenance. They 
are like Paul and his lease cars. The only car I bought new 
that I had problems with was the Escort, it ate tie rods and 
rear axle bearings; but the diesel drive train was sweet, if 
only I could have had that in a diver car...


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cbwaters wrote:
 Bah...
 My 81 Mustang (Rustang) was a Fix Or Repair Daily.
 
 I do so like the Buy American concept these days.  A friend was giving me 
 some grief about replacing the Nissan with another Nissan a while back.  I 
 asked him where his Chevy was made(Canada).  He didn't know.  My Xterra was 
 made in Tennessee.
 Of course the money went to Nissan in Japan, but I don't think that the 
 sentiment was ever really about who actually got the money.  Who cares if 
 the money sits in brokerage accounts here or there?  The Buy American idea 
 was intended to keep American workers employed, right?
 
 CW
 The BMW was made in Germany :)
 
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 Ken Waller wrote:
 First On Race Day 

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 You know FORD is actually an acronym...

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread graywolf
Fix Or Repair Daily (from the Model T days)
effing orful rotten dog
and there must be at least 20 more.

Fastest Overall Racing Dragster
Just to prove they  were not all negative.

Young Henry Ford had a brilliant idea, when told there were 
not that many people in the country who could afford a motor 
  car, he replied, Then I will pay my workers enough so 
they can afford one. A concept that has disappeared in 
America which is most likely why our general standard of 
living is fast deteriorating.



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Ken Waller wrote:
 As long as we're listing these -
 
 How about
 
 Found On Road Dead.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
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 Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge

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 Kenneth Waller
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Re: dead pixels on an ist D

2008-01-09 Thread John Bailey
I sent mine in to have hot pixels mapped out.  I was
satisfied with the results.  By dead do you mean
pixels with no light at all or red or green pixels on
all the time?

John

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 09/01/08, Alastair Robertson, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
nice eyelashes too.

An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little fellow.
K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
many on the list post those types of image it seems.

Comments  Critiques welcome

very nice Alistair - lovely composition!

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread graywolf
Back in the day, my Pinto was made just down the road from
me in Michigan, my girlfriends was made in Canada, and
another friends was made in Mexico. Couldn't see much
difference. BTW, they were all bought in Detroit at the same
dealership.

As to the keep Americans working thing, I think that is what
we working class people mean, but the stockholders and
management mean, keep my stock value up. That is the problem
with trickle down economics, those people have money because
they do not let it tickle out of their hands.



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cbwaters wrote:
 Bah...
 My 81 Mustang (Rustang) was a Fix Or Repair Daily.
 
 I do so like the Buy American concept these days.  A friend was giving me 
 some grief about replacing the Nissan with another Nissan a while back.  I 
 asked him where his Chevy was made(Canada).  He didn't know.  My Xterra was 
 made in Tennessee.
 Of course the money went to Nissan in Japan, but I don't think that the 
 sentiment was ever really about who actually got the money.  Who cares if 
 the money sits in brokerage accounts here or there?  The Buy American idea 
 was intended to keep American workers employed, right?
 
 CW
 The BMW was made in Germany :)
 
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 Ken Waller wrote:
 First On Race Day 

 Kenneth Waller
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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 09/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/gallery/titan/titan1.html

That's rocket science.

I like the strap-ons btw.

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Re: Tripod Head for Bigma - Suggestions/Reccomendations ?

2008-01-09 Thread Patrick Genovese
To everyone who responded to this thread. Thank you all for your
input.. I think I will go for the Manfrotto 393 .. A wimberly is
simply outside my budged plus my existing ball head serves me just
fine except for the bigma.  I guess getting a dedicated head for a
long lens is the better option from a quality POV.

People seem to be able to use the 393 for monsters like the sigma
300-800 with good results so i guess the bigma should be a walk in the
park for it.

Regards

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread William Robb

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 I like the strap-ons btw.

Somehow I'm not surprised.

William Robb

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, it is technically quite good - much better than I could do, I
think.  It is a rather disturbing type of subject for many, which may
have some impact on why you don't see more shots like this.  Also, the
availability of this type of subject isn't very universal.

Anyway, nicely done.

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Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 2:38:04 AM, you wrote:

AR http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
AR nice eyelashes too.

AR An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little 
fellow.
AR K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
AR These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
AR PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
AR I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
AR many on the list post those types of image it seems.

AR Comments  Critiques welcome

AR Alastair




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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote:

 I like the strap-ons. 
 

MARK!  Oh my god  MARK!

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Manual for D-BG1 grip for *ist D?

2008-01-09 Thread Joe Wilensky
Does anyone have a link to a pdf version (or the file itself) of the  
instruction manual for the D-BG1 grip for the *ist D? It doesn't seem  
to be on any of the official or unofficial Pentax manuals sites.

Joe


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Re: PESO - Senior Portrait

2008-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Many thanks for the comments.  This seems to have been a somewhat
polarizing photo.  Anyway, the comments provided will be taken into
account for future shoots.

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Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 4:41:06 AM, you wrote:

DJB Ditto

DJB Dave

DJB On Jan 8, 2008 10:45 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Simply a wonderful shot !
 Composition, subject, exposure great!

 Kenneth Waller
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 Subject: PESO - Senior Portrait


 A recent senior portrait taken in the home of a friend.
 
  Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm
  ISO 100, 1/60 sec @ f/11, handheld
  Single Alien Bee monolight
 
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ambersenior_0079.htm
 
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Re: PESO - Glenview Apartments

2008-01-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Frank, you're really in the zone or on the streak or whatever it is that 
is happening to you, but this is wonderful photo.

Cheers!

Boris


frank theriault wrote:
 After the snowfall on New Years Day:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2cqkdq
 
 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R3zefY8j2kI/BNY/9JWQSR-VMRU/s1600-h/jan_3_08+002.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
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Re: PESO: while the others were sitting under the xmas tree...

2008-01-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Cotty wrote:
 Ralf, if you don't chuck out a book one day with all this amazing stuff,
 I'll puke.
 
 I love the first one, the Cargowagon shot. All your work has a simple
 and astonishing feel to it, eminently viewable, enticing. As the yanks
 say, you rock!

What the tall Englishman said ;-).

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Re: GESO: Snowy January 1st, 2008

2008-01-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks. I'll see what I can do about some palms ;-).

Boris

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Here are 4 pictures from the morning of 1/1/08.
 Especially for you folks down in the warm climates.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/JanuarySnow
 
 comments/criticisms welcome
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 


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Re: Manual for D-BG1 grip for *ist D?

2008-01-09 Thread Thibouille
I dot remind having a munual for it.
If youhave any quesion I'm sure we all will tell you what you wanna know.

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Re: Manual for D-BG1 grip for *ist D?

2008-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
It did have one of those little paper manuals like what lenses come
with. Essentially no info beyond how to attach it

-Adam

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Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Patrick Genovese
See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428

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new regulations on lithium batteries on aircrafts

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin

High-tech travellers beware!

I just found this new DOT rules (this for the US, other countries
may adopt similar rules).
You cannot have spare lithium batteries in your checked-in baggage,
only in carry-on baggage, and with some limitations.
See the official Dot site for details:
http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html

Igor


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Jack Davis
Hmmm..

Jack
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
That's it.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
- 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
- Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
- Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
- Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
- Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
- Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
- Ett- trykks RAW opptak
- Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-

Translated
- 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
- IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)
- Resistant against rain, sand and dust
- doble dust removment on sensor
- Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
- Live View
- One- push RAW button
- 3200 ISO
USD 999 (My rough calculation)
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No ap stimulator ;-)

Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc.



Tim Typo

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Re: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Ken Waller
Very well done. I'd prefer a more blurred background tho.

Kenneth Waller
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From: Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Old Four Eyes


 http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
 nice eyelashes too.

 An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little 
 fellow.
 K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
 These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
 PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
 I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
 many on the list post those types of image it seems.

 Comments  Critiques welcome

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty wrote:
 I like the strap-ons btw.
MARK!


Cotty wrote:
 On 09/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/gallery/titan/titan1.html
 

 That's rocket science.

 I like the strap-ons btw.

   


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Re: Manual for D-BG1 grip for *ist D?

2008-01-09 Thread Joe Wilensky
Thanks -- that's what it seems like; I just wanted to know if there  
were any functions not immediately apparent from attaching it and  
trying it out.

Joe



On Jan 9, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

 It did have one of those little paper manuals like what lenses come
 with. Essentially no info beyond how to attach it

 -Adam

 On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I dot remind having a munual for it.
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 wanna know.

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Re: Is an F80-200 worth $40?

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I like tanks, if they'd let me I'd drive one.  I can imagine nothing 
more intimidatingly in a dispute over a parking space with a minivan...

Thibouille wrote:
 The only problem with the F 70-210 and the reason why I sold it (I
 needed money other wise I would have kept it but well..) is the
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 It is a tank, very sturdy IMO but sooo heavy :(

   


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Re: PESO - Senior Portrait

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
The Romans didn't pillage, the civilized.  In the initial stages the 
only real difference is in how wide spread and efficient the 
distribution of the spoils is.

David J Brooks wrote:
 On Jan 9, 2008 3:51 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 4. So, aside from all that, what have the bloody Romans ever done for us?!
 

 Well, our pilaging skills were pretty poor before they showed up.

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/9/2008 2:41:16 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones  -
nice eyelashes too.

An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches  turned up this little fellow.
K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV  Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I  have posted
PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less  successful.
I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots.  Not
many on the list post those types of image it seems.

Comments   Critiques welcome

Alastair

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Nice one. I think  a little more DOF would have helped, though. Just a tad.

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Re: PESO - Senior Portrait

2008-01-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/8/2008 4:15:44 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
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A recent senior portrait  taken in the home of a friend.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm
ISO  100, 1/60 sec @ f/11, handheld
Single Alien Bee  monolight

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ambersenior_0079.htm

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Very nice. Good lighting. I find the louver  doors a bit distracting, though.

Like the colors and shapes, though. Red  sweater, red violin. 

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
We don't know that for sure.  Pentax sometimes doesn't announce features..
(Though it does seem unlikely).

Tim Øsleby wrote:
 - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
 - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
 - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
 - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
 - Ett- trykks RAW opptak
 - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
 Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-

 Translated
 - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
 - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Resistant against rain, sand and dust
 - doble dust removment on sensor
 - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Live View
 - One- push RAW button
 - 3200 ISO
 USD 999 (My rough calculation)
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 No ap stimulator ;-)

 Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc.



 Tim Typo

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 Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


   
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Re: Is an F80-200 worth $40?

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
That should be intimidating, and add or SUV to that.

P. J. Alling wrote:
 I like tanks, if they'd let me I'd drive one.  I can imagine nothing 
 more intimidatingly in a dispute over a parking space with a minivan...

 Thibouille wrote:
   
 The only problem with the F 70-210 and the reason why I sold it (I
 needed money other wise I would have kept it but well..) is the
 weight.

 It is a tank, very sturdy IMO but sooo heavy :(

   
 


   


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed.
The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays
make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or
D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image
review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k
pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200,
although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the
competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer
ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well.

Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but
underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an
upgrade to the K10D.

-Adam

On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
 - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
 - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
 - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
 - Ett- trykks RAW opptak
 - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
 Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-

 Translated
 - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
 - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Resistant against rain, sand and dust
 - doble dust removment on sensor
 - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Live View
 - One- push RAW button
 - 3200 ISO
 USD 999 (My rough calculation)
 --

 No ap stimulator ;-)

 Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc.



 Tim Typo

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 From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM
 Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin

I like this very nice shot, Alastair!

I have a question (for you and whoever else would want to comment on it).
I understand that -1.5EV flash compensation is for a soft fill-in flash.
But what was the reason for +2EV ?

Recently there was a brief discussion here (I remember Godfrey
participating in it) that some cameras tend to underexpose.
Is that +2EV to compensate for the inherent underexposure?

Igor



On 09/01/08, Alastair Robertson, wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
nice eyelashes too.

An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little fellow.
K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
many on the list post those types of image it seems.

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Re: new regulations on lithium batteries on aircrafts

2008-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 There is no limit on batteries below the 100 watt-hour limit in  
 carry-on luggage.

I wanted to figure out the watt-hour rating of a Pentax K10D's battery.

The BH site (fastest place to look) lists it as a 1620 milliAmp-hour  
battery, that's 1.62 Amp-hour, with a nominal voltage of 7.4v.

W=V*A, making it about a 12 watt-hour battery if I read the  
definition of amp-hour and watt-hour correctly.

Did I get that right?

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Re: Manual for D-BG1 grip for *ist D?

2008-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Nope, nothing special other than the grip on/off, whose function is
pretty straightforward.

-Adam

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 Thanks -- that's what it seems like; I just wanted to know if there
 were any functions not immediately apparent from attaching it and
 trying it out.

 Joe



 On Jan 9, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

  It did have one of those little paper manuals like what lenses come
  with. Essentially no info beyond how to attach it
 
  -Adam
 
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  I dot remind having a munual for it.
  If youhave any quesion I'm sure we all will tell you what you
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Re: new regulations on lithium batteries on aircrafts

2008-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 High-tech travellers beware!

 I just found this new DOT rules (this for the US, other countries
 may adopt similar rules).
 You cannot have spare lithium batteries in your checked-in baggage,
 only in carry-on baggage, and with some limitations.
 See the official Dot site for details:
 http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html



This was discussed here at some length last week. Here's some further  
info to put your worries at ease.


On Jan 4, 2008 10:39 AM, Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 This regulation is intended to limit pretty large batteries.  This
 article should ease fear for most of us except someone like Cotty who
 needs to lug huge rechargables for video.

 http://www.cnet.com/8301-13556_1-9839984-61.html? 
 part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-5

 Bottom line is:
 There is no limit on batteries below the 100 watt-hour limit in
 carry-on luggage.

 Of course finding a TSA agent that understands this (or anything else
 for tha matter) could be a problem.

 On Jan 4, 2008 12:54 AM, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How the heck are you supposed to find out how much lithium content
 your battery has? And how would the TSA monkeys know? Would they
 accept a printout from the web as proof?


 On Jan 3, 2008 1:35 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/batteries.shtm



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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I would bet so.  It is supposed to be mostly internal changes.  (With 
the rumors of a January announcement I kind of expected something from 
the LV Consumer Electronics Show, but it's started and...  Well nothing.)

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nice shot. I'm not a particular enthusiast of wildlife photos,  
although I like to see them and do some occasionally ... more often  
birds and water life, rarely insects.
--
Responding to Igor:

With my DS, I found the meter calibration generally required +0.5-0.7  
EV compensation when capturing RAW format for accurate density with  
an 18% grayscale reference card. I find my K10D to be more accurately  
calibrated, requiring at most +0.3 EV but within range to use 0.0EV  
and get the appropriate number.

Looking at this scene, I would have wanted to add an additional  
+0.7-1.0 EV for ambient exposure as the scene's average reflectivity  
is significantly higher than an 18% gray.

+2 EV ambient exposure comp seems a little high, especially when  
coupled with the -1.5 EV flash fill. But the photo looks fine,  
without highlight saturation and includes a full tonal scale. I'd  
chalk the settings values up to individual camera body and flash unit  
variations in calibration. I've not used the AF540FGZ flash unit so I  
don't know much first-hand about how the ambient metering system and  
it work together.

Godfrey


On Jan 9, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


 I like this very nice shot, Alastair!

 I have a question (for you and whoever else would want to comment  
 on it).
 I understand that -1.5EV flash compensation is for a soft fill-in  
 flash.
 But what was the reason for +2EV ?

 Recently there was a brief discussion here (I remember Godfrey
 participating in it) that some cameras tend to underexpose.
 Is that +2EV to compensate for the inherent underexposure?

 Igor



 On 09/01/08, Alastair Robertson, wrote:

 http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
 nice eyelashes too.

 An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this  
 little fellow.
 K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
 These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
 PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
 I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
 many on the list post those types of image it seems.

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Re: new regulations on lithium batteries on aircrafts

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed Jan 9 14:19:08 EST 2008
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Jan 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
  High-tech travellers beware!
 
  I just found this new DOT rules (this for the US, other countries
  may adopt similar rules).
  You cannot have spare lithium batteries in your checked-in baggage,
  only in carry-on baggage, and with some limitations.
  See the official Dot site for details:
  http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html
 
 
 
 This was discussed here at some length last week. Here's some further  
 info to put your worries at ease.

Oops.. Mea culpa.

I see now the large thread that I missed while recovering from flu last
week.
Thanks, Godfrey!

Igor


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Re: new regulations on lithium batteries on aircrafts

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed Jan 9 14:35:28 EST 2008
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  There is no limit on batteries below the 100 watt-hour limit in  
  carry-on luggage.
 
 I wanted to figure out the watt-hour rating of a Pentax K10D's battery.
 
 The BH site (fastest place to look) lists it as a 1620 milliAmp-hour  
 battery, that's 1.62 Amp-hour, with a nominal voltage of 7.4v.
 
 W=V*A, making it about a 12 watt-hour battery if I read the  
 definition of amp-hour and watt-hour correctly.
 
 Did I get that right?
 

Yes, your calculation is correct.

Igor


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
 - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
 - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
 - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
 - Ett- trykks RAW opptak
 - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
 Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-

 Translated
 - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
 - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)


 - Resistant against rain, sand and dust

Is that always, or just during cold and flu season.?:-)

Dave
 - doble dust removment on sensor
 - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Live View
 - One- push RAW button
 - 3200 ISO
 USD 999 (My rough calculation)
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 Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc.



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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
The Nikon LCD is not really 922k.
It is about 300k x 3. 300k pix pr colour channel.
In other words, it is better, but not as much better as the specs suggests.

Tim Typo

- Original Message - 
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed.
The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays
make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or
D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image
review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k
pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200,
although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the
competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer
ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well.

Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but
underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an
upgrade to the K10D.

-Adam

On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
 - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
 - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
 - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
 - Ett- trykks RAW opptak
 - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
 Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-

 Translated
 - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
 - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Resistant against rain, sand and dust
 - doble dust removment on sensor
 - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Live View
 - One- push RAW button
 - 3200 ISO
 USD 999 (My rough calculation)
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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Opened it up, but had to close it pretty quick, but, from the 1/10 of
a second of what i saw looked nice.

I'll have to memory bank the title for future reference. Sorry:-(

Dave

On Jan 9, 2008 5:38 AM, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
 nice eyelashes too.

 An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little fellow.
 K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
 These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
 PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
 I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
 many on the list post those types of image it seems.

 Comments  Critiques welcome

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Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread Jack Davis
Anyone opted in on the Pentax Photo Gallery Screensaver?

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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Beat me to it Jack. I was just about to post something.

Not yet, but thinking.

Dave

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Specs does not tell.

Tim Typo
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From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


On Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
 - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
 - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
 - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
 - Ett- trykks RAW opptak
 - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
 Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-

 Translated
 - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
 - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)


 - Resistant against rain, sand and dust

Is that always, or just during cold and flu season.?:-)

Dave
 - doble dust removment on sensor
 - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Live View
 - One- push RAW button
 - 3200 ISO
 USD 999 (My rough calculation)
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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/09 Wed AM 10:38:04 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Old Four Eyes
 
 http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
 nice eyelashes too.
 
 An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little fellow.
 K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
 These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
 PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
 I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
 many on the list post those types of image it seems.

In that case: More, please!!


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Re: Is an F80-200 worth $40?

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 9, 2008 2:24 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That should be intimidating, and add or SUV to that.

Sounds like you just completed my speling classes.:-)

Dave


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  more intimidatingly in a dispute over a parking space with a minivan...
 
  Thibouille wrote:
 
  The only problem with the F 70-210 and the reason why I sold it (I
  needed money other wise I would have kept it but well..) is the
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  It is a tank, very sturdy IMO but sooo heavy :(
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: new regulations on lithium batteries on aircrafts

2008-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 There is no limit on batteries below the 100 watt-hour limit in
 carry-on luggage.

 I wanted to figure out the watt-hour rating of a Pentax K10D's  
 battery.

 The BH site (fastest place to look) lists it as a 1620 milliAmp-hour
 battery, that's 1.62 Amp-hour, with a nominal voltage of 7.4v.

 W=V*A, making it about a 12 watt-hour battery if I read the
 definition of amp-hour and watt-hour correctly.

 Did I get that right?


 Yes, your calculation is correct.

Thanks Igor!

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Bet ya that tranny works.:-0

Dave

On Jan 9, 2008 10:40 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 09/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/gallery/titan/titan1.html

 That's rocket science.

 I like the strap-ons btw.

Funny, i figured you for self inflatable.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Thibouille
10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who
knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled
date for announcement.

Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip
when/if they buy the K20D ;)

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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin

Wed Jan 9 15:28:31 EST 2008
David J Brooks wrote:

 Beat me to it Jack. I was just about to post something.
Mark!


PDML rule of thumb (I should probably call it Rule of quick thumb):
If you have important news to post FYI, if you wait long enough, 
somebody else would post it to PDML.

Corollary:
If you post some news that is more than 1 hour old, it probably has been
posted to PDML already.
If you don't see it there, you must have overlooked it.
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Corollary 2 (my personal):
I prefer reading PDML as opposed to writing to it. 
I try to suppress my urge of posting when I can.
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For those who think it looks soooo.... nice around here

2008-01-09 Thread graywolf
I took a photo to show the other view from the same spot, it 
is on my blog:

http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/

BTW, the ride up to the end of that street and back to the 
apartment is about one little mile, maybe a mile an a half, 
certainly no farther, and it is the only low traffic road 
within my capabilities that I can get to without hauling the 
bike on the car SIGH!.


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Gonz
Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the
internal bus to extend the fps somehow?  I.e. more fast ram or
something?

On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Correction.

In small print:
It is recomended to give it a shot al least once a year to keep it 
resistant.

Tim Typo

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From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


Specs does not tell.

Tim Typo
- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


On Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
 - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
 - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
 - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
 - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
 - Ett- trykks RAW opptak
 - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
 Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-

 Translated
 - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
 - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)


 - Resistant against rain, sand and dust

Is that always, or just during cold and flu season.?:-)

Dave
 - doble dust removment on sensor
 - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
 - Live View
 - One- push RAW button
 - 3200 ISO
 USD 999 (My rough calculation)
 --

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 From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM
 Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


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Re: Is an F80-200 worth $40?

2008-01-09 Thread Thibouille
On Jan 9, 2008 7:53 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like tanks, if they'd let me I'd drive one.  I can imagine nothing
 more intimidatingly in a dispute over a parking space with a minivan...

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 09/01/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Opened it up, but had to close it pretty quick, but, from the 1/10 of
a second of what i saw looked nice.

I'll have to memory bank the title for future reference. Sorry:-(

I think we can determine an arachnoid presence here ;-)

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 9, 2008 3:56 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 09/01/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Opened it up, but had to close it pretty quick, but, from the 1/10 of
 a second of what i saw looked nice.
 
 I'll have to memory bank the title for future reference. Sorry:-(

 I think we can determine an arachnoid presence here ;-)

Yup

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed Jan 9 15:39:03 EST 2008
Thibouille wrote:

 Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip
 when/if they buy the K20D ;)

Did you mean: Get a grip [... on yourself] ? ;-) 

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Re: Disposable diaper OT

2008-01-09 Thread Bill Lawlor
Godfrey wrote:
Unless you buy disposable diapers for some nefarious reasons possibly
related to your afore-implied doing to bicycles, I think the
contents of all disposable diapers are ultimately always going to be
the same ... With that the case, I treat any used disposable diaper
with great respect and, preferably, kept to a good distance.
.

This calls to mind the time decades ago when my wife changed the baby's (old 
fashioned cloth) diaper in the parking lot of the Golden Gate Bridge view 
area,  She handed me the very used diaper and I put it on the roof rack of 
our VW Van. Of course, I forgot about until were were a few miles up HWY 
101. I pulled over and , of course, it was gone. I've always wondered what 
it hit that day...

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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
The sample looked like a slide show.

Dave

On Jan 9, 2008 4:01 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am curious as to how/where it would be seen.(?)

 Jack

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  Beat me to it Jack. I was just about to post something.
 
  Not yet, but thinking.
 
  Dave
 
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Thibouille
;)

And  btw... http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/149260-post30.html

On Jan 9, 2008 9:50 PM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wed Jan 9 15:39:03 EST 2008
 Thibouille wrote:

  Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip
  when/if they buy the K20D ;)

 Did you mean: Get a grip [... on yourself] ? ;-)

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 9, 2008 3:55 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep. Thats rumoured.
 This could explain the extra contacts on the grip.

 Could be larger buffer, could be something else, can also be something else
 to come i n future

GFM cooler maybe.

Dave

 Tim Typo

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 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM
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  Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the
  internal bus to extend the fps somehow?  I.e. more fast ram or
  something?
 
  On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who
  knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled
  date for announcement.
 
  Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Gonz
Ahh, I see.  Could be wireless image transmission, more buffer, more
processing power, high capacity storage, ...virtually anything.  By
exposing the guts, they can extend camera functionality with lots of
external gadgets.

On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep. Thats rumoured.
 This could explain the extra contacts on the grip.

 Could be larger buffer, could be something else, can also be something else
 to come i n future

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 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM
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  Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the
  internal bus to extend the fps somehow?  I.e. more fast ram or
  something?
 
  On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who
  knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled
  date for announcement.
 
  Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip
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Re: Is an F80-200 worth $40?

2008-01-09 Thread graywolf
Considering fuel costs it would be cheaper to offer the guy 
$100 for his parking space.


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P. J. Alling wrote:
 I like tanks, if they'd let me I'd drive one.  I can imagine nothing 
 more intimidatingly in a dispute over a parking space with a minivan...
 
 Thibouille wrote:
 The only problem with the F 70-210 and the reason why I sold it (I
 needed money other wise I would have kept it but well..) is the
 weight.

 It is a tank, very sturdy IMO but sooo heavy :(

   
 
 

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RE: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread Bob W
it's rather a socialist attitude, so it's not surprising that it has
disappeared from the USA. The general idea is that workers should be
able to afford the product of their labour. Not sure how that makes
for a better world, but there it is.

Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude Pontiac thing?

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 Young Henry Ford had a brilliant idea, when told there were 
 not that many people in the country who could afford a motor 
   car, he replied, Then I will pay my workers enough so 
 they can afford one. A concept that has disappeared in 
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Yep. Thats rumoured.
This could explain the extra contacts on the grip.

Could be larger buffer, could be something else, can also be something else 
to come i n future

Tim Typo

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 Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the
 internal bus to extend the fps somehow?  I.e. more fast ram or
 something?

 On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who
 knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled
 date for announcement.

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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread Jack Davis
Am curious as to how/where it would be seen.(?)

Jack
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 Not yet, but thinking.
 
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Re: Disposable diaper OT

2008-01-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
Motorcyclist without a helmet?  ;-)

On Jan 9, 2008 3:13 PM, Bill Lawlor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Godfrey wrote:
 Unless you buy disposable diapers for some nefarious reasons possibly
 related to your afore-implied doing to bicycles, I think the
 contents of all disposable diapers are ultimately always going to be
 the same ... With that the case, I treat any used disposable diaper
 with great respect and, preferably, kept to a good distance.
 .

 This calls to mind the time decades ago when my wife changed the baby's (old
 fashioned cloth) diaper in the parking lot of the Golden Gate Bridge view
 area,  She handed me the very used diaper and I put it on the roof rack of
 our VW Van. Of course, I forgot about until were were a few miles up HWY
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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
me too.

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KW Yep.

KW Kenneth Waller
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Re: For those who think it looks soooo.... nice around here

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Well, its an interesting photo essay i'd say.:-)

Still it reminds me of those kidnapped garden gnomes going around the
world and the thieves sending photos back to the owner.LOL

Dave

On Jan 9, 2008 3:52 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I took a photo to show the other view from the same spot, it
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 http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/

 BTW, the ride up to the end of that street and back to the
 apartment is about one little mile, maybe a mile an a half,
 certainly no farther, and it is the only low traffic road
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Re: Manual for D-BG1 grip for *ist D?

2008-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
well, there is one thing to be aware of - if the dials are in between
click detents, then the main dials can have problems.  Basically make
sure the the dials on both the body and grip click into place as you
use them.  Sometimes it seems like one of the dials is unresponsive -
it is normally because the opposite one (grip or body) is not clicked
into a detent.

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Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 11:32:18 AM, you wrote:

AM Nope, nothing special other than the grip on/off, whose function is
AM pretty straightforward.

AM -Adam

AM On 1/9/08, Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks -- that's what it seems like; I just wanted to know if there
 were any functions not immediately apparent from attaching it and
 trying it out.

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  It did have one of those little paper manuals like what lenses come
  with. Essentially no info beyond how to attach it
 
  -Adam
 
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  If youhave any quesion I'm sure we all will tell you what you
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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 09/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude Pontiac thing?

Pull Out Naughty Thing In A Car

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K10D on ebay @ $599 w/rebate

2008-01-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
Check ebay for the most recent Buy-it-Now auctions.
A camera store in Louisville is offering a $699 B-I-N price and
qualifying for $100 rebate from Pentax.
(For all of those who can't find a K10D on their local store shelves.)
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah..me too.

Jack
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Re: PESO - Senior Portrait

2008-01-09 Thread Rick Womer
I agree with Cotty.  The facial expression is also a
bit odd; she seems to be thinking if they make me
play these damned instruments any more I'll cry!

Rick

--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 08/01/08, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated,
 unleashed:
 
 A recent senior portrait taken in the home of a
 friend.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm
 ISO 100, 1/60 sec @ f/11, handheld
 Single Alien Bee monolight
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ambersenior_0079.htm
 
 Hi Bruce,
 
 I wouldn't normally comment if I'm not disposed to a
 photo, but your
 attitude to photography is mature enough to
 withstand an attack ;-)
 
 I won't tell you how to correct the pic, but what I
 will do is tell you
 what bugs me about it.
 
 IMO:
 
 1. The crop is to close or too loose. I want to see
 more, or see less.
 If more, much more. At least the entire fiddle (I
 play bluegrass so
 that's not a violin ;-) I know she's holding the bow
 - I can *just*
 catch sight of it.
 
 2. I do like the lighting but the overall effect is
 slightly too low
 key. The fiddle is all mixed up in the hair.
 
 3. That background is atrocious and highly
 distracting. A wider crop may
 help, or a tighter shot wide open would soften it.
 
 4. So, aside from all that, what have the bloody
 Romans ever done for us?!
 
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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread Ken Waller
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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Me to. I just did not want to be first

Dave

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Re: Is an F80-200 worth $40?

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
And where's the satisfaction in that?

graywolf wrote:
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 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 I like tanks, if they'd let me I'd drive one.  I can imagine nothing 
 more intimidatingly in a dispute over a parking space with a minivan...

 Thibouille wrote:
 
 The only problem with the F 70-210 and the reason why I sold it (I
 needed money other wise I would have kept it but well..) is the
 weight.

 It is a tank, very sturdy IMO but sooo heavy :(

   
   
 

   


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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Socialism has nothing to do with it.  Capitalism in it's purest form has 
the belief that each party should benefit from a transaction.  
Mercantilism believes you can, nay _must_ rape your customers and 
employees, and get away with it.  It's right there in the handbook...

Bob W wrote:
 it's rather a socialist attitude, so it's not surprising that it has
 disappeared from the USA. The general idea is that workers should be
 able to afford the product of their labour. Not sure how that makes
 for a better world, but there it is.

 Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude Pontiac thing?

 --
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 Young Henry Ford had a brilliant idea, when told there were 
 not that many people in the country who could afford a motor 
   car, he replied, Then I will pay my workers enough so 
 they can afford one. A concept that has disappeared in 
 America which is most likely why our general standard of 
 living is fast deteriorating.
 


   


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Re: For those who think it looks soooo.... nice around here

2008-01-09 Thread graywolf
HAR! This is my junk bicycle in Paris. This is my junk 
bicycle in  New Guinea...

What can I say, it gets me out of the apartment.


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David J Brooks wrote:
 Well, its an interesting photo essay i'd say.:-)
 
 Still it reminds me of those kidnapped garden gnomes going around the
 world and the thieves sending photos back to the owner.LOL
 
 Dave
 
 On Jan 9, 2008 3:52 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I took a photo to show the other view from the same spot, it
 is on my blog:

 http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/

 BTW, the ride up to the end of that street and back to the
 apartment is about one little mile, maybe a mile an a half,
 certainly no farther, and it is the only low traffic road
 within my capabilities that I can get to without hauling the
 bike on the car SIGH!.


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Question about canvas (reposted)

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin

Hi all,

I asked this some time ago, but have not received any responses.
so, I apologize for reposting this - I'd give it one more try.

1. For all printer users: what canvas/canvas paper do you use 
(roll or sheet)?
2. What parameters do they differ by (except for the size)?
I.e. what should I look for when comparing different brand products, and
what is the [practical] difference between canvas and canvas paper?

3. for Epson R2400 printer users:
a) Is it capable of printing well on canvas? 
b) Same question about metallic paper (such as Kodak Endura Metallic)?

Thank you,

Igor


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Re: Disposable diaper OT

2008-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Bill Lawlor wrote:

 This calls to mind the time decades ago when my wife changed the  
 baby's (old
 fashioned cloth) diaper in the parking lot of the Golden Gate  
 Bridge view
 area,  She handed me the very used diaper and I put it on the roof  
 rack of
 our VW Van. Of course, I forgot about until were were a few miles  
 up HWY
 101. I pulled over and , of course, it was gone. I've always  
 wondered what
 it hit that day...

w

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Re: Question about canvas (reposted)

2008-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sorry Igor,

I have the R2400 but I've never considered using it to print on Canvas.

You might go to the Printers  Printing forum on DPReview
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1003
or Digital Darkroom forum on Photo.net
http://photo.net/bboard/forum?topic_id=1701
and ask there.

Godfrey

On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


 Hi all,

 I asked this some time ago, but have not received any responses.
 so, I apologize for reposting this - I'd give it one more try.

 1. For all printer users: what canvas/canvas paper do you use
 (roll or sheet)?
 2. What parameters do they differ by (except for the size)?
 I.e. what should I look for when comparing different brand  
 products, and
 what is the [practical] difference between canvas and canvas paper?

 3. for Epson R2400 printer users:
 a) Is it capable of printing well on canvas?
 b) Same question about metallic paper (such as Kodak Endura Metallic)?


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Yes, but the others aren't really 230k pixels, but rather 1/3 of that.
All LCD displays on cameras are specified by points or sub-pixels. The
922k display on the D3/D300/A700 has its pixels counted the same way
as the 230k displays on other bodies.

The 922x displays are 640x480, the 230k displays are 320x240. twice
the pixels in each direction.

-Adam

On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Nikon LCD is not really 922k.
 It is about 300k x 3. 300k pix pr colour channel.
 In other words, it is better, but not as much better as the specs suggests.

 Tim Typo

 - Original Message -
 From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?


 Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed.
 The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays
 make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or
 D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image
 review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k
 pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200,
 although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the
 competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer
 ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well.

 Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but
 underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an
 upgrade to the K10D.

 -Adam

 On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor)
  - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism)
  - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv
  - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken
  - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm
  - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View)
  - Ett- trykks RAW opptak
  - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO
  Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,-
 
  Translated
  - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor)
  - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism)
  - Resistant against rain, sand and dust
  - doble dust removment on sensor
  - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm
  - Live View
  - One- push RAW button
  - 3200 ISO
  USD 999 (My rough calculation)
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  No ap stimulator ;-)
 
  Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc.
 
 
 
  Tim Typo
 
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