Re: Back on list
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even in bad weather. Got some shots on line now: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/jan2008/ That's an excellent G-mountain portrait with the 300/2.8, etc. Well spotted. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Well, they ain't the Canadian Rookies Thanks!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes one can get too greatly influenced by the list :-) -- always please yourself first and foremost. Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Love light - Jordan Cronenweth
I've always had this thought in my mind. No matter how good or bad a film is, in a professional film at least, the consistent factor is the editing and the DOP. It can be a really crappily acted, directed, costumed, recorded, written film. But the editing and the cinematography is at least interesting to watch. And then, when everything else comes together, the editing and the cinematography is glorious. If you have a chance to watch the the Ultimate Collector's 5-disc edition of Blade Runner, there is a little short on Jordan Cronenweth, the DoP, in the Enhancement Archive disc. Normally I fast forward through these self-congratulatory features, but his work on this film still amazes me. I recommend, if you love still or moving phototography, to get this set, watch all 5 versions of the film, and then be moved by the Jordan feature. Derby -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre There is no doubt the guy deserves it. But that is the problem with censorship, it starts with those who deserve it and expands to those who the censors dislike, and soon becomes censorship of ideas rather than behavior. As a host, I reserve the right to put controls on people who come into my house. If you cross into what I consider unacceptable behaviour, I reserve the right to ask you to either mind your manners or leave. I reserve the right to put limits on what you can say or do when on my property. This is not censorship, it is me saying that your rights end at the tip of my nose, and do not supercede my rights to the enjoyment of what I have bought and paid for. Doug owns the house we are conversing in, and I think it inappropriate for anyone to criticize him, even obliquely, for the rules he chooses to impose on his guests. William Robb Hear, hear. And for those who don't like the rules, you are free to vacate the premises. I think Doug has done a fine job, and proof of that is that he's almost invisible ~ sign of a well-operated site. For all of me, more of the same please... keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
As is damnation!! On 14/01/2008, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enlightenment is irrelevant. Irrelevance is futile. Futility is hopeless. Hope is eternal... -p Ken Waller wrote: Enlightenment is irrelevant. Irrelevance is futile. Futility is hopeless. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Enlightenment is irrelevant. Irrelevance is futile. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo.net talks back
David Savage and Carl G sent me screen shots of my photo.net page and alerted me to the fact that non-subscribers don't see the same nice, clean page that subscribers see. I wrote to Josh, the photo.net site director, and told him I wasn't pleased. I included the URLs and screen shots. Here is Josh's reply. Rick and Paul, I'm replying to the two of you together because you wrote me at virtually the same time regarding the same issue. You can pass this along to the pentax mailing list if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the address that any replies should be directed to. A few things to know: 1. Yes, non-subscribers see more ads on the site than subscribers. 2. International viewers see different ads than N. American viewers, this has to do with the different ad providers we use. A N. American company doesn't want to advertise in Germany and vice versa. 3. From the screenshots that were included with Paul's email, someone is seeing ads that they shouldn't be seeing. Flashing/jumping you are a winner ads should not be on photo.net. Now, there are a couple reasons that could be the cause of #3: A. If only one or two people are actually seeing flashing/jumping ads, then their computers may be infected with spyware. B. There may have been a bait and switch pulled on the site. Sometimes an advertiser will present one ad for approval that will get through our filters, then switch it with another ad when they think we aren't paying attention. This is a particular problem with international ads. Probably because the crap companies know we are based in the USA and won't catch on as quickly. C. Full screenshots (including the URL bar of your browser) are needed to get rid of these ads. We need to know where on the site they are showing up. Copying the link that they are trying to send you to is also useful (if you know how to do that without actually visiting their site). Any questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Josh Photo.net Director of Community -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
John Celio wrote: After compiling this year's list I went through previous lists and started picking all-time favorites. And then I thought... While we're waiting for Mike Wilson's PDML Quote Book, why not pick a single one out to go on t-shirts, mugs, etc. through Cafe Press? I'll handle the logistics and donate any/all profits to the NCCF (National Childhood Cancer Foundation). All the rest of you have to do for now is vote on a favorite from the admittedly-biased selection of 10 I've narrowed it down to: http://www.robertstech.com/poll.htm Say, when does this poll end and the shirt-buying begin? Give me about another week. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back on list
On Jan 13, 2008 9:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/13/2008 2:03:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beautiful country around there. Even in bad weather. Got some shots on line now: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/jan2008/ === Excellent gallery (though still think you're nuts for climbing to the peak :-)). The sane(er) of us just go to the park lot. :-) Dave I especially like Another Craggy Crag and Bare Trees. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Fog shots at the farm
Thanks Rick. Yes full colour, just a tad of + exposure in LR. I tried to do a BW conversion, but for some reason,, the coniferious trees in #3 stay green. Dave On Jan 13, 2008 10:03 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first and the third are my favorites. Are they BW conversions or are they full color representations of what the day was like? Rick --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took Liz to her school bus on Sunday (she parks it at the farm) and it was pretty darn foggy. I did not bring a camera and missed out on some shots. Well, the fog was with us Monday, and i ventured out for a while. Took a few photos and after almost getting hit a few times headed home. Why is it when visibility is about 50' people still want to drive the speed limit and no lights on. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817896 Fence http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817895 Trees http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817894 My favorite pond K10D, 16-45 F4 and WB and sharpen in LR Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back on list
On Jan 14, 2008 6:51 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even in bad weather. Got some shots on line now: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/jan2008/ You guy's are both nutter's. Cool shots though :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo.net talks back - OFFLIST
G'day Paul, It's good to see that they got back to you seem to be taking your concerns seriously. WRT how these banner ads work, it's true that the ad's target the web users country of origin. I visit may US UK based sites and many show ads for Australian banks, telco's, Dell Australia etc. As Josh mentioned spyware can also be an issue, but I'm pretty sure my system is clean. I've checked on 3 different computers, on 2 separate networks (at home work) I'm still seeing similar animated Adobe Flash ads. Here are some more examples that you may wish to pass along: 1) Photo.net home page screen shot http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnHome_1.jpg Upper right banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/90/94/9094837ca2eb5d5225302f10d9d05f0c.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAPgwgAswMDAAIAAP8CFgIAAgMMvwQAjEcFANOiBItXi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaadobawb6uqgabrodaaiaap8cfgiaagkksgqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eexhsvwy81amaktkn9e3%2C Lower banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/67/05/67055ae772dabcae1096eb3bf0403022.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwBycwgAtAMDAAIABP8CFgIABgMMvwQAjEcFANSiBI9Xi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb8uqgabrodaaiabp8cfgiabgkksgqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eajxk3aw81anon%2Egykjf9mfkatt6m%2C 2) Random Paul S image 1 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_4.jpg Upper banner link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa555fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh9gkA1H4DAAIACP8CFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJtZi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaad0bawb8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2E5mk9%2Ehg%2D1aoy62ntu3ic0zr4d6an%2C Lower banner ad Link http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa555fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh9gkA1H4DDQACFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJ1Zi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Ejycxxro%2D1an%2Dj20u6thfoos4ygtw%2C 3) Random Paul S image 2 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_5.jpg http://clkag.targetpoint.com/Redirect.tpr?ur=http%3a%2f%2fnetwork.adsmarket.com%2fclick%2fjGRpnY2ff5WNkGnEXsp9nIphbMRhnX6Xt2NxlmbKf5mJaQ%3fdp%3d72890mui=931653d5-d08d-473b-a450-519b6bc6d3d0lid=5910gol=YR2QtkootR7uRMxLwzJteA%3d%3dqry=-1cid=13dir=4kw=-2pid=247054sid=0 4) Random Paul S image 3 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_6.jpg Upper banner link: http://h10085.www1.hp.com/hho/mosaic/index.html This is the page the ad linked to. I couldn't get the original pagead link to work. All but the last have nothing to do with photography. HTH Cheers, Dave On Jan 14, 2008 8:18 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage and Carl G sent me screen shots of my photo.net page and alerted me to the fact that non-subscribers don't see the same nice, clean page that subscribers see. I wrote to Josh, the photo.net site director, and told him I wasn't pleased. I included the URLs and screen shots. Here is Josh's reply. Rick and Paul, I'm replying to the two of you together because you wrote me at virtually the same time regarding the same issue. You can pass this along to the pentax mailing list if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the address that any replies should be directed to. A few things to know: 1. Yes, non-subscribers see more ads on the site than subscribers. 2. International viewers see different ads than N. American viewers, this has to do with the different ad providers we use. A N. American company doesn't want to advertise in Germany and vice versa. 3. From the screenshots that were included with Paul's email, someone is seeing ads that they shouldn't be seeing. Flashing/jumping you are a winner ads should not be on photo.net. Now, there are a couple reasons that could be the cause of #3: A. If only one or two people are actually seeing flashing/jumping ads, then their computers may be infected
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
Who? Me? :-D Cheers, Dave On Jan 14, 2008 12:32 AM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) Smart a*** ;-) Tim Typo - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:34 AM Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre No need to add one, we've got plenty already. :-) Cheers, Dave On Jan 13, 2008 11:12 AM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I add, a *dysfunctional* family at a holiday gathering Tim :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Hilarious K20D photo
Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo.net talks back - OFFLIST
Thanks David. I'll send these to Josh. Much appreciated. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day Paul, It's good to see that they got back to you seem to be taking your concerns seriously. WRT how these banner ads work, it's true that the ad's target the web users country of origin. I visit may US UK based sites and many show ads for Australian banks, telco's, Dell Australia etc. As Josh mentioned spyware can also be an issue, but I'm pretty sure my system is clean. I've checked on 3 different computers, on 2 separate networks (at home work) I'm still seeing similar animated Adobe Flash ads. Here are some more examples that you may wish to pass along: 1) Photo.net home page screen shot http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnHome_1.jpg Upper right banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/90/94/9094837ca2eb5d5225302f10d 9d05f0c.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAP gwgAswMDAAIAAP8CFgIAAgMMvwQAjEcFANOiBItXi0cA %2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaadobawb 6uqgabrodaaiaap8cfgiaagkksgqab8aeanejcd0 k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Ea aaaexhsvwy81amaktkn9e3%2C Lower banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/67/05/67055ae772dabcae1096eb3bf 0403022.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwBy cwgAtAMDAAIABP8CFgIABgMMvwQAjEcFANSiBI9Xi0cA %2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb 8uqgabrodaaiabp8cfgiabgkksgqab8aeanejcd0 k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Ea jxk3aw81anon%2Egykjf9mfkatt6m%2C 2) Random Paul S image 1 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_4.jpg Upper banner link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa55 5fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh 9gkA1H4DAAIACP8CFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJtZi0cA %2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaad0bawb 8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0 k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Ea aaa5mk9%2Ehg%2D1aoy62ntu3ic0zr4d6an%2C Lower banner ad Link http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa55 5fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh 9gkA1H4DDQACFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJ1Zi0cA %2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb 8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0 k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Ea aaajycxxro%2D1an%2Dj20u6thfoos4ygtw%2C 3) Random Paul S image 2 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_5.jpg http://clkag.targetpoint.com/Redirect.tpr?ur=http%3a%2f%2fnetwork.adsmarket.com %2fclick%2fjGRpnY2ff5WNkGnEXsp9nIphbMRhnX6Xt2NxlmbKf5mJaQ%3fdp%3d72890mui=93165 3d5-d08d-473b-a450-519b6bc6d3d0lid=5910gol=YR2QtkootR7uRMxLwzJteA%3d%3dqry=-1 cid=13dir=4kw=-2pid=247054sid=0 4) Random Paul S image 3 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_6.jpg Upper banner link: http://h10085.www1.hp.com/hho/mosaic/index.html This is the page the ad linked to. I couldn't get the original pagead link to work. All but the last have nothing to do with photography. HTH Cheers, Dave On Jan 14, 2008 8:18 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage and Carl G sent me screen shots of my photo.net page and alerted me to the fact that non-subscribers don't see the same nice, clean page that subscribers see. I wrote to Josh, the photo.net site director, and told him I wasn't pleased. I included the URLs and screen shots. Here is Josh's reply. Rick and Paul, I'm replying to the two of you together because you wrote me at virtually the same time regarding the same issue. You can pass this along to the pentax mailing list if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the address that any replies should be directed to. A few things to know: 1. Yes, non-subscribers see more ads on the site than subscribers. 2. International viewers see different ads than N. American viewers, this has to do with the different ad providers we use. A N. American company doesn't want to advertise in Germany and vice versa. 3. From the screenshots that were included with Paul's email, someone
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Excellent stuff. Mind you as a marketing strategy it's an improvement on the TWO page advert for the about to be discontinued K10D in this week's Amateur Photographer magazine in the UK. Sometimes I despair of their marketing people Peter On 14/01/2008, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESOs: Tetsuya and mirror lens
Man, I hate looking at foodie shots when I'm hungry...:-) Very cool series. Cheers, Dave On Jan 13, 2008 7:13 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few GESOs OT: Taken with a Lumix LX2. Noisy noisy, but the raw mode makes it marginally ok. Tried the Silkypix that came with the camera. I don't think I'll be uninstalling Lightroom any time soon. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_tetsuya/index.htm Two mirror pics http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_portraitist/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_aurora/01.htm OK, that's enough of mirror pics for now. Derby -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My preciousss
Hi! The replacement 43 ltd arrived today. I must admit that holding a brand new piece of gear has its appeal *blush*. Having struggled with the limited caps, particularly 77-th, I finally retreated to the simple snap on caps and no hoods for 21 ltd and 43 ltd - just protective filters. The most generous PDMLer who helped me to procure the 43 ltd gets my utmost appreciation and gratitude although they wish to remain anonymous ;-). Well, I am a complete man again, in fact complete++, 'cause I have now all three film ltd's and one cropped one ;-). Cheers! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Hmm. N.Geo button sounds like a Ken Rockwell feature. Imagine him being the next High Profile Photographer using Pentax. Him and this Benjamin character together would really rock. No. This could not be it. 60 fps is way too slow for the man who stoppes the light. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Hilarious K20D photo Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1222 - Release Date: 13.01.2008 12:23 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Fog shots at the farm
Gives a whole new dimension to the term evergreen! --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to do a BW conversion, but for some reason,, the coniferious trees in #3 stay green. Dave On Jan 13, 2008 10:03 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first and the third are my favorites. Are they BW conversions or are they full color representations of what the day was like? Rick --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took Liz to her school bus on Sunday (she parks it at the farm) and it was pretty darn foggy. I did not bring a camera and missed out on some shots. Well, the fog was with us Monday, and i ventured out for a while. Took a few photos and after almost getting hit a few times headed home. Why is it when visibility is about 50' people still want to drive the speed limit and no lights on. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817896 Fence http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817895 Trees http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6817894 My favorite pond K10D, 16-45 F4 and WB and sharpen in LR Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
It has a HUD with an artificial horizon for a VF screen... can it correct for any horizon tilt? :-D On Jan 14, 2008 11:02 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Going price for photo licensinng
Folks, A charitable organization in Texas is using some of my photos in their materials. I support their cause and am happy to provide them the photos for free. But I want it shown as a charitable donation so I can get a deduction on my taxes. Question is: How to price the licensing of photos for use in print materials. I want to claim a credible price--something an organization like that would legitimately pay if everyone was so inclined. They are using half a dozen of my photos in their fund-raising brochures, which they will be putting the San Antonio Missions NHP gift shops and visitor's center. I expect the print run to be in the tens of thousands. Craving advice. Rick appreciative Denney --- 645 and 6x7 user -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
- Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre I could name a couple dozen examples, but let's look at, say, Bill Robb. I know I can point to him because he's a big boy and can take it. He also understands that he can be a bit of an asshole at times. For the most part, Bill is a generous, helpful and knowledgeable contributor to the list, and the PDML is better for having him aboard. There are stretches of time in which he should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a blunt instrument. It is because of his positive record that Good Bill is afforded PDML indulgence when he turns into Evil Bill. Same with most everyone who posts at least semi-regularly to the list, myself included. Only a bit of an asshole? Obviously I need to work harder at this. EB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Going price for photo licensinng
I would claim $300 per photo, which is the average price of royalty-free stock. If an organization like that were to license commercial photos that would undoubtedly purchase royalty-free stock and would probably look for a better price than what I've quoted. But you can legitimately claim $300 per. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Denney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, A charitable organization in Texas is using some of my photos in their materials. I support their cause and am happy to provide them the photos for free. But I want it shown as a charitable donation so I can get a deduction on my taxes. Question is: How to price the licensing of photos for use in print materials. I want to claim a credible price--something an organization like that would legitimately pay if everyone was so inclined. They are using half a dozen of my photos in their fund-raising brochures, which they will be putting the San Antonio Missions NHP gift shops and visitor's center. I expect the print run to be in the tens of thousands. Craving advice. Rick appreciative Denney --- 645 and 6x7 user -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
That's not necessarily bad marketing. They may be trying to clear existing stock. And while we know a K20D announcement is pending, we really don't know what the actual release day will be. It could be six months from now. Paul -- Original message -- From: Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellent stuff. Mind you as a marketing strategy it's an improvement on the TWO page advert for the about to be discontinued K10D in this week's Amateur Photographer magazine in the UK. Sometimes I despair of their marketing people Peter On 14/01/2008, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too many lenses. be more appropriate, (and more a likely candidate for a t-shirt that most members would wear. (I'm being totally non biased here, I'm not responsible for either of these quotes).* John Celio wrote: After compiling this year's list I went through previous lists and started picking all-time favorites. And then I thought... While we're waiting for Mike Wilson's PDML Quote Book, why not pick a single one out to go on t-shirts, mugs, etc. through Cafe Press? I'll handle the logistics and donate any/all profits to the NCCF (National Childhood Cancer Foundation). All the rest of you have to do for now is vote on a favorite from the admittedly-biased selection of 10 I've narrowed it down to: http://www.robertstech.com/poll.htm Say, when does this poll end and the shirt-buying begin? John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo.net talks back - OFFLIST
I'm surprised my spam filter didn't catch this... David Savage wrote: G'day Paul, It's good to see that they got back to you seem to be taking your concerns seriously. WRT how these banner ads work, it's true that the ad's target the web users country of origin. I visit may US UK based sites and many show ads for Australian banks, telco's, Dell Australia etc. As Josh mentioned spyware can also be an issue, but I'm pretty sure my system is clean. I've checked on 3 different computers, on 2 separate networks (at home work) I'm still seeing similar animated Adobe Flash ads. Here are some more examples that you may wish to pass along: 1) Photo.net home page screen shot http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnHome_1.jpg Upper right banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/90/94/9094837ca2eb5d5225302f10d9d05f0c.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAPgwgAswMDAAIAAP8CFgIAAgMMvwQAjEcFANOiBItXi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaadobawb6uqgabrodaaiaap8cfgiaagkksgqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eexhsvwy81amaktkn9e3%2C Lower banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/67/05/67055ae772dabcae1096eb3bf0403022.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwBycwgAtAMDAAIABP8CFgIABgMMvwQAjEcFANSiBI9Xi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb8uqgabrodaaiabp8cfgiabgkksgqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eajxk3aw81anon%2Egykjf9mfkatt6m%2C 2) Random Paul S image 1 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_4.jpg Upper banner link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa555fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh9gkA1H4DAAIACP8CFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJtZi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaad0bawb8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2E5mk9%2Ehg%2D1aoy62ntu3ic0zr4d6an%2C Lower banner ad Link http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa555fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh9gkA1H4DDQACFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJ1Zi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Ejycxxro%2D1an%2Dj20u6thfoos4ygtw%2C 3) Random Paul S image 2 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_5.jpg http://clkag.targetpoint.com/Redirect.tpr?ur=http%3a%2f%2fnetwork.adsmarket.com%2fclick%2fjGRpnY2ff5WNkGnEXsp9nIphbMRhnX6Xt2NxlmbKf5mJaQ%3fdp%3d72890mui=931653d5-d08d-473b-a450-519b6bc6d3d0lid=5910gol=YR2QtkootR7uRMxLwzJteA%3d%3dqry=-1cid=13dir=4kw=-2pid=247054sid=0 4) Random Paul S image 3 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_6.jpg Upper banner link: http://h10085.www1.hp.com/hho/mosaic/index.html This is the page the ad linked to. I couldn't get the original pagead link to work. All but the last have nothing to do with photography. HTH Cheers, Dave On Jan 14, 2008 8:18 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage and Carl G sent me screen shots of my photo.net page and alerted me to the fact that non-subscribers don't see the same nice, clean page that subscribers see. I wrote to Josh, the photo.net site director, and told him I wasn't pleased. I included the URLs and screen shots. Here is Josh's reply. Rick and Paul, I'm replying to the two of you together because you wrote me at virtually the same time regarding the same issue. You can pass this along to the pentax mailing list if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the address that any replies should be directed to. A few things to know: 1. Yes, non-subscribers see more ads on the site than subscribers. 2. International viewers see different ads than N. American viewers, this has to do with the different ad providers we use. A N. American company doesn't want to advertise in Germany and vice versa. 3. From the screenshots that were included with Paul's email, someone is seeing ads that they shouldn't be seeing. Flashing/jumping you are a winner ads should not be on photo.net. Now, there are a couple reasons that could be the cause of #3:
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
It's hard to tell much from a small web image, but to anyone but a birder this just looks like a group of birds (possibly ducks). There's no discernable detail on the individuals, so mostly it's just a clump of dark shapes. On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:25:58AM -0800, Francis wrote: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Good point Paul. I just checked in my new diary. It doesn't even have a provisional date for hell freezing over, let alone the K20D in the shops. Mind you with the Borg due to assimilate us in just over three centuries, I hope Pentax get their act together in time to ensure a reasonable return on capital from the K20D The clock is ticking. Peter That's not necessarily bad marketing. They may be trying to clear existing stock. And while we know a K20D announcement is pending, we really don't know what the actual release day will be. It could be six months from now. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Going price for photo licensinng
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes... I would claim $300 per photo, which is the average price of royalty-free stock. If an organization like that were to license commercial photos that would undoubtedly purchase royalty-free stock and would probably look for a better price than what I've quoted. But you can legitimately claim $300 per. Paul, thanks. I had guessed $250 and you have confirmed my guess. Rick thinking most charities look for 'free' Denney --- 645 and 6x7 user -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
Francis wrote: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis Really like the atmosphere and light. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Going price for photo licensinng
- Original Message - From: Rick Denney Subject: Going price for photo licensinng Folks, A charitable organization in Texas is using some of my photos in their materials. I support their cause and am happy to provide them the photos for free. But I want it shown as a charitable donation so I can get a deduction on my taxes. Question is: How to price the licensing of photos for use in print materials. I want to claim a credible price--something an organization like that would legitimately pay if everyone was so inclined. They are using half a dozen of my photos in their fund-raising brochures, which they will be putting the San Antonio Missions NHP gift shops and visitor's center. I expect the print run to be in the tens of thousands. Craving advice. Often in this sort of situation, the client themselves can be your best resource. Ask them what they have paid for (or issued reciepts for) this type of thing in the past, or what they would expect to pay, were you a less than generous person. Good Bill William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
Kill Bill evil grin ET - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre I could name a couple dozen examples, but let's look at, say, Bill Robb. I know I can point to him because he's a big boy and can take it. He also understands that he can be a bit of an asshole at times. For the most part, Bill is a generous, helpful and knowledgeable contributor to the list, and the PDML is better for having him aboard. There are stretches of time in which he should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a blunt instrument. It is because of his positive record that Good Bill is afforded PDML indulgence when he turns into Evil Bill. Same with most everyone who posts at least semi-regularly to the list, myself included. Only a bit of an asshole? Obviously I need to work harder at this. EB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1222 - Release Date: 13.01.2008 12:23 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
It's still speculation that the K20D will actually officially replace and not supplement the K10D in the Pentax Line. Pentax was aiming at having three DSLRs in their line at the same time. Right now Pentaximaging.com, (Pentax USA), has only two. Heck I never did see a K110d in the actual plastic during it's entire existence, and it hasn't been on the Pentaximaging web site for at least 6 months, maybe longer. I suspect either the K10D or the K100D super will remain as part of the official product line for some time to come. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not necessarily bad marketing. They may be trying to clear existing stock. And while we know a K20D announcement is pending, we really don't know what the actual release day will be. It could be six months from now. Paul -- Original message -- From: Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellent stuff. Mind you as a marketing strategy it's an improvement on the TWO page advert for the about to be discontinued K10D in this week's Amateur Photographer magazine in the UK. Sometimes I despair of their marketing people Peter On 14/01/2008, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Going price for photo licensinng
Paul's advice sounds good...you can look at this site to get some further insights into pricing ranges depending on use, size of reproduction and volume of publications printed. http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm -p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would claim $300 per photo, which is the average price of royalty-free stock. If an organization like that were to license commercial photos that would undoubtedly purchase royalty-free stock and would probably look for a better price than what I've quoted. But you can legitimately claim $300 per. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Denney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, A charitable organization in Texas is using some of my photos in their materials. I support their cause and am happy to provide them the photos for free. But I want it shown as a charitable donation so I can get a deduction on my taxes. Question is: How to price the licensing of photos for use in print materials. I want to claim a credible price--something an organization like that would legitimately pay if everyone was so inclined. They are using half a dozen of my photos in their fund-raising brochures, which they will be putting the San Antonio Missions NHP gift shops and visitor's center. I expect the print run to be in the tens of thousands. Craving advice. Rick appreciative Denney --- 645 and 6x7 user -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
IMO it would be smart to keep the K100D. They would market the K100D against the D40/XT and the K200D against D40x/XTi. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On Jan 14, 2008 12:09 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre It is because of his positive record that Good Bill is afforded PDML indulgence when he turns into Evil Bill. Same with most everyone who posts at least semi-regularly to the list, myself included. Only a bit of an asshole? Obviously I need to work harder at this. Told ya. PET EB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
A decent group of silhouettes and I like the tree topped shore stack. White border is dominant to the point of being a distracting. I'm a resolution/detail person and it bothers me that this image has very little of either. Jack --- Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My preciousss
On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Having struggled with the limited caps, particularly 77-th, I finally retreated to the simple snap on caps and no hoods for 21 ltd and 43 ltd - just protective filters. Useless protective filter and no hood. Exactly the opposite of what I'd recommend: that's a great way to increase flare and reduce image quality. My recommendation is to get a deeper than stock hood for both the 43 and 77, and discard the filters. The clip-on caps are much better than the slide off and get lost stock caps, I agree. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
On Jan 14, 2008 12:39 PM, Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point Paul. I just checked in my new diary. It doesn't even have a provisional date for hell freezing over, let alone the K20D in the shops. Mine does.;-) Mind you with the Borg due to assimilate us in just over three centuries, I hope Pentax get their act together in time to ensure a reasonable return on capital from the K20D The clock is ticking. I can't find the Call Spock, button Dave Peter That's not necessarily bad marketing. They may be trying to clear existing stock. And while we know a K20D announcement is pending, we really don't know what the actual release day will be. It could be six months from now. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo.net talks back - OFFLIST
On Jan 14, 2008 12:23 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised my spam filter didn't catch this... Or my spell checlker Dave David Savage wrote: G'day Paul, It's good to see that they got back to you seem to be taking your concerns seriously. WRT how these banner ads work, it's true that the ad's target the web users country of origin. I visit may US UK based sites and many show ads for Australian banks, telco's, Dell Australia etc. As Josh mentioned spyware can also be an issue, but I'm pretty sure my system is clean. I've checked on 3 different computers, on 2 separate networks (at home work) I'm still seeing similar animated Adobe Flash ads. Here are some more examples that you may wish to pass along: 1) Photo.net home page screen shot http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnHome_1.jpg Upper right banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/90/94/9094837ca2eb5d5225302f10d9d05f0c.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAPgwgAswMDAAIAAP8CFgIAAgMMvwQAjEcFANOiBItXi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaadobawb6uqgabrodaaiaap8cfgiaagkksgqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eexhsvwy81amaktkn9e3%2C Lower banner ad link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/67/05/67055ae772dabcae1096eb3bf0403022.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwBycwgAtAMDAAIABP8CFgIABgMMvwQAjEcFANSiBI9Xi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb8uqgabrodaaiabp8cfgiabgkksgqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Eajxk3aw81anon%2Egykjf9mfkatt6m%2C 2) Random Paul S image 1 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_4.jpg Upper banner link: http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa555fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh9gkA1H4DAAIACP8CFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJtZi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaad0bawb8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2E5mk9%2Ehg%2D1aoy62ntu3ic0zr4d6an%2C Lower banner ad Link http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/84/d1/84d126e256ba9977ade07aa555fc8e29.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%2Fclick%2CRwQAAAHxAwAh9gkA1H4DDQACFgIABgMMvwQAJZ8EAERMBQAAAJ1Zi0cA%2C%2Chttp%253A%252F%252Fad%2Eyieldmanager%2Ecom%252Fiframe3%253Fvvmaaggoawb8uqgabroddayaagacfgiabgi1raqab8aeanejcd0k19m%2E16nwpqrx0z%2Exo3a9ctftp9ejcd0k19m%2Ejycxxro%2D1an%2Dj20u6thfoos4ygtw%2C 3) Random Paul S image 2 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_5.jpg http://clkag.targetpoint.com/Redirect.tpr?ur=http%3a%2f%2fnetwork.adsmarket.com%2fclick%2fjGRpnY2ff5WNkGnEXsp9nIphbMRhnX6Xt2NxlmbKf5mJaQ%3fdp%3d72890mui=931653d5-d08d-473b-a450-519b6bc6d3d0lid=5910gol=YR2QtkootR7uRMxLwzJteA%3d%3dqry=-1cid=13dir=4kw=-2pid=247054sid=0 4) Random Paul S image 3 screen shot: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PnPS/PnPS_6.jpg Upper banner link: http://h10085.www1.hp.com/hho/mosaic/index.html This is the page the ad linked to. I couldn't get the original pagead link to work. All but the last have nothing to do with photography. HTH Cheers, Dave On Jan 14, 2008 8:18 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage and Carl G sent me screen shots of my photo.net page and alerted me to the fact that non-subscribers don't see the same nice, clean page that subscribers see. I wrote to Josh, the photo.net site director, and told him I wasn't pleased. I included the URLs and screen shots. Here is Josh's reply. Rick and Paul, I'm replying to the two of you together because you wrote me at virtually the same time regarding the same issue. You can pass this along to the pentax mailing list if you like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the address that any replies should be directed to. A few things to know: 1. Yes, non-subscribers see more ads on the site than subscribers. 2. International viewers see different ads than N. American viewers, this has to do with the different ad providers we use. A N. American company doesn't want to advertise in Germany and vice versa. 3. From the screenshots that were included with Paul's email, someone is
Re: Photo.net talks back
Paul. I was just going through a picture load up to my Paw-08 on Photo dot net, and a pop up add popped up. I was the 1,000,000,000 person for something. This still while I was logged on and was ready to hit preview to look at my shot. Dave On Jan 14, 2008 6:18 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage and Carl G sent me screen shots of my photo.net page and alerted me to the fact that non-subscribers don't see the same nice, clean page that subscribers see. I wrote to Josh, the photo.net site director, and told him I wasn't pleased. I included the URLs and screen shots. Here is Josh's reply. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
Lovely photo. It's more a landscape scenic than a picture of ducks, seems a little too tightly cropped on the left and right. The rendering is smaller than I'd like. Godfrey On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Francis wrote: These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My preciousss
Well, I use SMC coated Pentax filters, but I see your point. Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Having struggled with the limited caps, particularly 77-th, I finally retreated to the simple snap on caps and no hoods for 21 ltd and 43 ltd - just protective filters. Useless protective filter and no hood. Exactly the opposite of what I'd recommend: that's a great way to increase flare and reduce image quality. My recommendation is to get a deeper than stock hood for both the 43 and 77, and discard the filters. The clip-on caps are much better than the slide off and get lost stock caps, I agree. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
Love the colour of the photo, and how the back ground seems to disappear Dave On Jan 14, 2008 11:25 AM, Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Light Rays
In a message dated 1/13/2008 8:53:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have made a crop on this one based on suggestions from some of you. Here is the new one: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5609a.htm Original: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5609.htm -- Bruce Yes, I like it better. Next time, also, you might get closer. But, still, probably not a shot I could have made. :-) Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
Enlightenment is irrelevant. Irrelevance is futile. Futility is hopeless. Hope is eternal... Eternal is forever. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre Enlightenment is irrelevant. Irrelevance is futile. Futility is hopeless. Hope is eternal... -p Ken Waller wrote: Enlightenment is irrelevant. Irrelevance is futile. Futility is hopeless. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Enlightenment is irrelevant. Irrelevance is futile. -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
In a message dated 1/14/2008 10:43:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't find the Call Spock, button Dave = But when we join the Federation, Spock is not the Vulcan that we meet. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On 1/14/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 12:09 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre It is because of his positive record that Good Bill is afforded PDML indulgence when he turns into Evil Bill. Same with most everyone who posts at least semi-regularly to the list, myself included. Only a bit of an asshole? Obviously I need to work harder at this. Told ya. PET Well, there's evil and then there's PET. He's far beyond evil -Adam (For the non-Canucks, PET is the initials of Canada's very controversial PM in the 70's, Pierre Elliot Trudeau. Many Canadians, particularly westerners, loathe him for very nearly destroying the country). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Going price for photo licensinng
In a message dated 1/14/2008 10:24:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul's advice sounds good...you can look at this site to get some further insights into pricing ranges depending on use, size of reproduction and volume of publications printed. http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm -p That's a cool calculator. Thanks for sharing. Marnie aka Doe :-) Not that I will ever need it. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
In a message dated 1/14/2008 8:56:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscu sstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis Very nice shot. I like the subtle gradations of yellow a lot. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
On Jan 14, 2008 2:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2008 10:43:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't find the Call Spock, button Dave = But when we join the Federation, Spock is not the Vulcan that we meet. But, its the one we, Need.:-) Dave Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Going price for photo licensinng
FWIW, a year or so ago I was getting $200/photo. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Going price for photo licensinng I would claim $300 per photo, which is the average price of royalty-free stock. If an organization like that were to license commercial photos that would undoubtedly purchase royalty-free stock and would probably look for a better price than what I've quoted. But you can legitimately claim $300 per. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Denney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, A charitable organization in Texas is using some of my photos in their materials. I support their cause and am happy to provide them the photos for free. But I want it shown as a charitable donation so I can get a deduction on my taxes. Question is: How to price the licensing of photos for use in print materials. I want to claim a credible price--something an organization like that would legitimately pay if everyone was so inclined. They are using half a dozen of my photos in their fund-raising brochures, which they will be putting the San Antonio Missions NHP gift shops and visitor's center. I expect the print run to be in the tens of thousands. Craving advice. Rick appreciative Denney --- 645 and 6x7 user -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tamron starting price 70-200
http://www.adorama.com/TM70200DPXA.html I'm sure it will go up, but its a pretty good price. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
Did'nt think anyone would see that.:-) Dave On Jan 14, 2008 2:13 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/14/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 12:09 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre It is because of his positive record that Good Bill is afforded PDML indulgence when he turns into Evil Bill. Same with most everyone who posts at least semi-regularly to the list, myself included. Only a bit of an asshole? Obviously I need to work harder at this. Told ya. PET Well, there's evil and then there's PET. He's far beyond evil -Adam (For the non-Canucks, PET is the initials of Canada's very controversial PM in the 70's, Pierre Elliot Trudeau. Many Canadians, particularly westerners, loathe him for very nearly destroying the country). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Light Rays
I don't care for the crop, Bruce. To me, centering the shadow area makes for a stronger image, regardless of the conventional wisdom to avoid centering compostions. It's a tad busy but it feels more real to me than cleaning it up with a crop. -Brendan --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made a crop on this one based on suggestions from some of you. Here is the new one: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5609a.htm Original: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5609.htm -- Bruce Sunday, January 13, 2008, 8:10:51 PM, you wrote: KW The potential of that scene is lessened by the symetry IMHO KW Kenneth Waller KW http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f KW - Original Message - KW From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW Subject: Re: PESO - Light Rays Great shot. Dave On Jan 13, 2008 12:12 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the opportunity today to wander around at the rugged shoreline in San Francisco and encountered a different take on the light filtering through the trees. I was able to position myself so that I could be centered on the tree that was blocking the light. Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 80mm, Handheld ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/8 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5609.htm -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
And for those who don't like the rules, you are free to vacate the premises. I think Doug has done a fine job, and proof of that is that he's almost invisible ~ sign of a well-operated site. I'd change fine to excellent/outstanding Thank you Doug Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre There is no doubt the guy deserves it. But that is the problem with censorship, it starts with those who deserve it and expands to those who the censors dislike, and soon becomes censorship of ideas rather than behavior. As a host, I reserve the right to put controls on people who come into my house. If you cross into what I consider unacceptable behaviour, I reserve the right to ask you to either mind your manners or leave. I reserve the right to put limits on what you can say or do when on my property. This is not censorship, it is me saying that your rights end at the tip of my nose, and do not supercede my rights to the enjoyment of what I have bought and paid for. Doug owns the house we are conversing in, and I think it inappropriate for anyone to criticize him, even obliquely, for the rules he chooses to impose on his guests. William Robb Hear, hear. And for those who don't like the rules, you are free to vacate the premises. I think Doug has done a fine job, and proof of that is that he's almost invisible ~ sign of a well-operated site. For all of me, more of the same please... keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso Tree and Stones
Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , and threw some cameras in the truck. Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after getting my letter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do some shooting here. Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are still on the property, some were. K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. Dave Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. Dave again -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My preciousss
Actually I manage to lose all caps, clip on, push on, screw in makes no difference to me. That reminds me I need to lay in a new supply... Boris Liberman wrote: Well, I use SMC coated Pentax filters, but I see your point. Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Having struggled with the limited caps, particularly 77-th, I finally retreated to the simple snap on caps and no hoods for 21 ltd and 43 ltd - just protective filters. Useless protective filter and no hood. Exactly the opposite of what I'd recommend: that's a great way to increase flare and reduce image quality. My recommendation is to get a deeper than stock hood for both the 43 and 77, and discard the filters. The clip-on caps are much better than the slide off and get lost stock caps, I agree. G -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
Pretty much what John said. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~ It's hard to tell much from a small web image, but to anyone but a birder this just looks like a group of birds (possibly ducks). There's no discernable detail on the individuals, so mostly it's just a clump of dark shapes. On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:25:58AM -0800, Francis wrote: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron starting price 70-200
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Tamron starting price 70-200 http://www.adorama.com/TM70200DPXA.html I'm sure it will go up, but its a pretty good price. No image available. Are you sure it exists? EB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT ... bicycle enthusiasts please
Yesterday I was in SF on a walkabout shoot with a friend. I spied this neat looking folding bicycle with a Shimano Nexus-8 speed hub and took a picture of the head area which shows this logo. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/unknown-bicycle.jpg I tried to get a picture of the name plate on the front but could not get a clear shot due to the failing light and the position it was in. I'm trying to find out who makes this bicycle ... it was a very nice design that I'd like to know more about. thanks ... I hope someone can help identify it. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT ... bicycle enthusiasts please
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/unknown-bicycle.jpg thanks ... I hope someone can help identify it. :-) Godfrey http://www.puma-kutani.com/ -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT ... bicycle enthusiasts please
Christian wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/unknown-bicycle.jpg thanks ... I hope someone can help identify it. :-) Godfrey http://www.puma-kutani.com/ Or http://www.puma.com/bike/pindex.jsp if you can tolerate their broken POS of a web site. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron starting price 70-200
On 1/14/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Tamron starting price 70-200 http://www.adorama.com/TM70200DPXA.html I'm sure it will go up, but its a pretty good price. No image available. Are you sure it exists? EB Exists, but not yet released. Expect availability info at PMA. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT ... bicycle enthusiasts please
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Yesterday I was in SF on a walkabout shoot with a friend. I spied this neat looking folding bicycle with a Shimano Nexus-8 speed hub and took a picture of the head area which shows this logo. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/unknown-bicycle.jpg I tried to get a picture of the name plate on the front but could not get a clear shot due to the failing light and the position it was in. I'm trying to find out who makes this bicycle ... it was a very nice design that I'd like to know more about. thanks ... I hope someone can help identify it. :-) Godfrey Ok, maybe i should be a little more verbose. It looks like a Biomega Puma folding 8 speed: http://www.highsnobiety.com/home/the_daily_news/archive/2007/june/06/puma_biomega_bicycle/index.htm Don't try to go to the puma bikes web page it is awful. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Bong Manayon wrote: It has a HUD with an artificial horizon for a VF screen... can it correct for any horizon tilt? :-D They must have heard that Frank Theriault has gone digital... ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT ... bicycle enthusiasts please
The logo is for Puma, and doing a quick googling for puma bicycle I came up with this: http://www.style.com/shopping/itemoftheweek/042305/ John Celio Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yesterday I was in SF on a walkabout shoot with a friend. I spied this neat looking folding bicycle with a Shimano Nexus-8 speed hub and took a picture of the head area which shows this logo. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/unknown-bicycle.jpg I tried to get a picture of the name plate on the front but could not get a clear shot due to the failing light and the position it was in. I'm trying to find out who makes this bicycle ... it was a very nice design that I'd like to know more about. thanks ... I hope someone can help identify it. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Way OT - coffee
The wife gave me a Cuisinart grind and brew coffee maker for Christmas and I'm looking for some reasonably priced roasted whole bean coffees. I found a website that seems to have a large selection at, what I would consider very reasonable prices. http://www.coffeebeandirect.com/index.php?cPath=21_57 Have any of you used this site and if so, what are your opinions. Thanks Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way OT - coffee
Bill Owens wrote: The wife gave me a Cuisinart grind and brew coffee maker for Christmas and I'm looking for some reasonably priced roasted whole bean coffees. I found a website that seems to have a large selection at, what I would consider very reasonable prices. http://www.coffeebeandirect.com/index.php?cPath=21_57 I've not tried them, but I've tried these guys a bunch of times. http://www.greencastlecoffee.com/index.asp Excellent product. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D
The forum's been hammered into the ground all afternoon. Just warning you. And the photo's are unimpressive (not the camera's fault, they're poor snapshots). The only ones of any real use in predicting camera performance are the 'ISO 6400 crops'. If they're legit it looks like the K20D will rival the A700 in high ISO performance, but not the D300. -Adam On 1/14/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/18385-images-made-k20d.html have fun... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
On Jan 14, 2008 4:03 PM, Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with Tuvok? Spock looks like a superannuated Nikon F user from the sixties. Because i have 1 memory from the 60's. I know i have more in here some were, besides i can't spell Tuvok. Dave Peter On 14/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2008 10:43:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't find the Call Spock, button Dave = But when we join the Federation, Spock is not the Vulcan that we meet. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way OT - coffee
Scott Loveless wrote: Bill Owens wrote: The wife gave me a Cuisinart grind and brew coffee maker for Christmas and I'm looking for some reasonably priced roasted whole bean coffees. I found a website that seems to have a large selection at, what I would consider very reasonable prices. http://www.coffeebeandirect.com/index.php?cPath=21_57 I've not tried them, but I've tried these guys a bunch of times. http://www.greencastlecoffee.com/index.asp Excellent product. I'll second Scott's suggestion. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
What is wrong with Tuvok? Spock looks like a superannuated Nikon F user from the sixties. Peter On 14/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2008 10:43:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't find the Call Spock, button Dave = But when we join the Federation, Spock is not the Vulcan that we meet. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Images supposedly taken with a K20D
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/18385-images-made-k20d.html have fun... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My preciousss
My recommendation is to get a deeper than stock hood for both the 43 and 77, and discard the filters. The clip-on caps are much better than the slide off and get lost stock caps, I agree. I don't use filters on any of my lenses anymore (besides a cir. polarizer sometimes), but I LVE the slip-on cap for my DA21 Limited. It's so much nicer than having to feel around for the clips to take off a clip-on cap in a hurry. Have I mentioned how much I love my DA21? I've been shooting with it about 85% of the time the last few months. I love it, love it, love it! John Celio (lots of shots with the DA21 have been showing up in my blog, http://www.neovenator.com/blogger.html, including some street photography, which I don't normally do.) P.S.: I thank Pentaxian.com every time I take out my DA21. Sometimes I sacrfice small animals to them on an altar in my back yard in the hopes that they someday smile upon me again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way OT - coffee
Is that the stuff you brought to GFM.If so it, was giid Dave On Jan 14, 2008 3:50 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Owens wrote: The wife gave me a Cuisinart grind and brew coffee maker for Christmas and I'm looking for some reasonably priced roasted whole bean coffees. I found a website that seems to have a large selection at, what I would consider very reasonable prices. http://www.coffeebeandirect.com/index.php?cPath=21_57 I've not tried them, but I've tried these guys a bunch of times. http://www.greencastlecoffee.com/index.asp Excellent product. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My preciousss
On Jan 14, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't use filters on any of my lenses anymore (besides a cir. polarizer sometimes), but I LVE the slip-on cap for my DA21 Limited. It's so much nicer than having to feel around for the clips to take off a clip- on cap in a hurry. I hardly use caps at all anymore. I store the lenses face down, with a *real* lens hood, in a padded pocket in my bag. Or use a neoprene hood-sock for things like the DA14. Have I mentioned how much I love my DA21? I've been shooting with it about 85% of the time the last few months. I love it, love it, love it! :-) Yes, between it and the FA43, I hardly use anything else on the K10D anymore. :-) P.S.: I thank Pentaxian.com every time I take out my DA21. Sometimes I sacrfice small animals to them on an altar in my back yard in the hopes that they someday smile upon me again. Um, John ... !! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
Very nice -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francis Sent: 14 January 2008 16:26 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~ Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_i d=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT ... bicycle enthusiasts please
Thanks, y'all! It looked pretty darn neat. There's a place in SF that carries them, I may go there for a test ride if they can do that ... I'll be in the city again later in the week. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Love light - Jordan Cronenweth
on the subject of beautiful cinematography, and Ridley Scott, be sure to watch The Duellists (again, if necessary). It was Scott's first feature, made on a miniscule budget mostly in natural light, and heavily influenced cinematographically by Kubrick's Barry Lyndon. It's probably one of my top 5 all-time favourites. Another great cinematographer is Vittorio Storaro, responsible for (among other things) The Sheltering Sky, The Last Emperor, Last Tango in Paris, Apocalypse Now!, 1900, etc... -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derby Chang Sent: 14 January 2008 09:22 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Love light - Jordan Cronenweth I've always had this thought in my mind. No matter how good or bad a film is, in a professional film at least, the consistent factor is the editing and the DOP. It can be a really crappily acted, directed, costumed, recorded, written film. But the editing and the cinematography is at least interesting to watch. And then, when everything else comes together, the editing and the cinematography is glorious. If you have a chance to watch the the Ultimate Collector's 5-disc edition of Blade Runner, there is a little short on Jordan Cronenweth, the DoP, in the Enhancement Archive disc. Normally I fast forward through these self-congratulatory features, but his work on this film still amazes me. I recommend, if you love still or moving phototography, to get this set, watch all 5 versions of the film, and then be moved by the Jordan feature. Derby -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Going price for photo licensinng
Rick - One other thing...and you didn't mention the name of the organization so this may be a no-brainer. But...the IRS is getting funny about which non-profits are eligible for deductible donations. If it is, it's listed in IRS Publication 78 http://apps.irs.gov/app/pub78 -p Paul Sorenson wrote: Paul's advice sounds good...you can look at this site to get some further insights into pricing ranges depending on use, size of reproduction and volume of publications printed. http://photographersindex.com/stockprice.htm -p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would claim $300 per photo, which is the average price of royalty-free stock. If an organization like that were to license commercial photos that would undoubtedly purchase royalty-free stock and would probably look for a better price than what I've quoted. But you can legitimately claim $300 per. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Denney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, A charitable organization in Texas is using some of my photos in their materials. I support their cause and am happy to provide them the photos for free. But I want it shown as a charitable donation so I can get a deduction on my taxes. Question is: How to price the licensing of photos for use in print materials. I want to claim a credible price--something an organization like that would legitimately pay if everyone was so inclined. They are using half a dozen of my photos in their fund-raising brochures, which they will be putting the San Antonio Missions NHP gift shops and visitor's center. I expect the print run to be in the tens of thousands. Craving advice. Rick appreciative Denney --- 645 and 6x7 user -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D
Thibouille wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/18385-images-made-k20d.html Images that *might* have been taken with a K20D (with prototype firmware). With an unknown lens. At unknown ISO settings (no matter what is claimed in the forum post) and unknown shutter speed aperture settings. Maybe shot as JPEG, maybe as Raw (and converted with an unknown Raw converter). At least the photo I posted a link to earlier was an *intentional* joke! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D
I usually head over there when i need a laugh Dave On Jan 14, 2008 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thibouille wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/18385-images-made-k20d.html Images that *might* have been taken with a K20D (with prototype firmware). With an unknown lens. At unknown ISO settings (no matter what is claimed in the forum post) and unknown shutter speed aperture settings. Maybe shot as JPEG, maybe as Raw (and converted with an unknown Raw converter). At least the photo I posted a link to earlier was an *intentional* joke! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
On Jan 14, 2008 4:58 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax wanted a 'Ken Rockwell' button, but he would only allow it on a Nikon, so they had to settle for National Geographic. Wonder if this will be Kenny's new Fav camera. Can't wait for his never held it in his hands review Dave -- Bob Hmm. N.Geo button sounds like a Ken Rockwell feature. Imagine him being the next High Profile Photographer using Pentax. Him and this Benjamin character together would really rock. No. This could not be it. 60 fps is way too slow for the man who stoppes the light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Hilarious K20D photo
Pentax wanted a 'Ken Rockwell' button, but he would only allow it on a Nikon, so they had to settle for National Geographic. -- Bob Hmm. N.Geo button sounds like a Ken Rockwell feature. Imagine him being the next High Profile Photographer using Pentax. Him and this Benjamin character together would really rock. No. This could not be it. 60 fps is way too slow for the man who stoppes the light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
It's actually programmable, your choices are National Geographic, and Ken Rockwell, there were going to be Ansel Adams and HBC options as well, but after the Ken Rockwell option was added there wasn't room... Bob W wrote: Pentax wanted a 'Ken Rockwell' button, but he would only allow it on a Nikon, so they had to settle for National Geographic. -- Bob Hmm. N.Geo button sounds like a Ken Rockwell feature. Imagine him being the next High Profile Photographer using Pentax. Him and this Benjamin character together would really rock. No. This could not be it. 60 fps is way too slow for the man who stoppes the light. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way OT - coffee
I haven't used either of the coffee places quoted here so far, but I 've been buying good coffee from gmcr.com aka http://www.greenmountaincoffee.com/ My favorite blends from them include Rain Forest Nut, and something that was unique for this place: Creme Brulee. I haven't been ordering any coffee in the last couple years, and I just saw that Creme Brulee is no longer there.. I am not sure if they renamed it or dropped it completely. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ford claims ownership of images
A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones
The headstones look pretty cool lined up like that. I think you could crop out about half the frame as the sky and most of the tree don't really do anything for the subject. I'd crop just above the tree line myself. -- Bruce Monday, January 14, 2008, 11:01:33 AM, you wrote: DJB Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , DJB and threw some cameras in the truck. DJB Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after DJB getting my letter. DJB http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 DJB This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do DJB some shooting here. DJB Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old DJB farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are DJB still on the property, some were. DJB K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. DJB Dave DJB Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my DJB digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. DJB Dave again DJB -- DJB Equine Photography DJB www.caughtinmotion.com DJB http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
Sandy Harris wrote: A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! Just because a lawyer says it doesn't mean it's true. I'd wager the opposite is more accurate. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D
Thibouille wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/18385-images-made-k20d.html Images that *might* have been taken with a K20D (with prototype firmware). With an unknown lens. At unknown ISO settings (no matter what is claimed in the forum post) and unknown shutter speed aperture settings. Maybe shot as JPEG, maybe as Raw (and converted with an unknown Raw converter). At least the photo I posted a link to earlier was an *intentional* joke! - Ah, but the images were posted by a fellow from Slovenia. As I recall, that is where the MZ-S was first shown. Therefore they must be authentic. The best early information about new cameras consistently comes from Slovenia, Malta, and Russia. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Forest
I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may not like it altogether - even that information is useful. Pentax K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm ISO 800, 1/15 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, Anti-shake on Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
On 15/01/08, Sandy Harris, discombobulated, unleashed: A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! Why am I not surprised. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On 14/01/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too many lenses. be more appropriate, (and more a likely candidate for a t-shirt that most members would wear. (I'm being totally non biased here, I'm not responsible for either of these quotes).* I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. I would buy a T shirt saying 'You can never have to many lenses'. In relatively small, understated lettering, no graphics. XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Please. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On 14/01/08, Evil Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: Only a bit of an asshole? Obviously I need to work harder at this. EB LOL -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT ... bicycle enthusiasts please
On 14/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks, y'all! It looked pretty darn neat. There's a place in SF that carries them, I may go there for a test ride if they can do that ... I'll be in the city again later in the week. Do they do a test fold as well?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My preciousss
P.S.: I thank Pentaxian.com every time I take out my DA21. Sometimes I sacrfice small animals to them on an altar in my back yard in the hopes that they someday smile upon me again. Um, John ... !! Oh Godfrey, you know it's not true. I live in a condo; I don't have a back yard! John ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Forest
Bruce Dayton wrote: I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may not like it altogether - even that information is useful. Pentax K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm ISO 800, 1/15 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, Anti-shake on Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm Bill RobbNeeds to be shot large format/Bill Robb Me, I like the first crop better. I think it would also work well as a monochrome conversion (though I haven't tried it so I could be wrong). But I also think that this looks like a large-format kind of image :) I love this kind of image! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Forest
I prefer the first, it has more balance. It's a nice quiet picture. The composition of the other feels incomplete. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: 14 January 2008 23:57 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Forest I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may not like it altogether - even that information is useful. Pentax K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm ISO 800, 1/15 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, Anti-shake on Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
