Re: PESO: Patrick O. Ford
Walter Hamler wrote: Yes, I agree about Maya. I think she had so many things against her back then. She was a young woman, Asian, and relatively unknown in the field. There were probably others. I remember one of the strongest objections was the fact that it was essentially underground. Folks were used to the imposing landmark monuments on the mall and other areas of DC. As it turns out, that aspect has proven to be its strongest character, in my opinion. I can remember one day walking around the mall, just looking for picture opportunities, and litterly stumbled upon it. Especially if you come up to it from behind the three soldier statues who gaze upon it. It really jumps out to you and is very evocative in its impact. Walt O Odd how we were just talking about this... http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/01/one-that-got-aw.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D
On 14.01.2008, at 22:06 , Adam Maas wrote: The only ones of any real use in predicting camera performance are the 'ISO 6400 crops'. If they're legit it looks like the K20D will rival the A700 in high ISO performance, but not the D300. It is not known if high ISO noise reduction in K20D was used - if no then it is still possible it can rival D300. And FW was still beta as I suppose - beta version of K10D (FW 0.20) which I had for an evaluation had much higher noise levels then final one. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
Sorry, I mix them up: Union, Southern, Western... :-) BTW, here is yet another interesting precedences - Court Ruling in a similar and even more relevant to PDML case: http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42796 Pictures of buildings do not violate trademark - Rock Roll Hall of Fame Museum v. Gentile Prods., 134 F.3d 749 (6th Cir. Ohio 1998) And here is a Lockheed Martin Corp.'s free licence to photographers and artists: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/12024.pdf Igor Mon Jan 14 19:35:38 EST 2008 Steve Sharpe wrote: At 7:31 PM -0500 1/14/08, Igor Roshchin wrote: One of the people recalled on the said club's forum (www.bmcforums.com) a similar story when Southern Pacific (who took over Union Pacific) Vice versa. UP bought out SP. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Seems like another example of technology because it's possible rather than because it's needed I was amused by this part of the press release: Burlingame, CA, January 14, 2008..(PMA) Convention, held this week from January 31-February 2, 2008... this week??? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks good, but it's missing a SmileCheck button. This is actually real. http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/EkppFuZuuVJFmtlTgi.html D -- Get a free email address with REAL anti-spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
On Jan 15, 2008 3:55 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! Looks good, but it's missing a SmileCheck button. And an instant kittens filter. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones
Very nicely composed - the alignment of the headstones really lead the eye into the image. The branches on the right are a bit distracting but I suspect avoiding them would have been difficult. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , and threw some cameras in the truck. Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after getting my letter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do some shooting here. Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are still on the property, some were. K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. Dave Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. Dave again -- -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Forest
It seems to me that the responses so far haven't helped you decide which works best. As a dedicated 'fence sitter', I'm not going to help either :-) I prefer the composition of the 'minor crop' but the texture in the bark is better appreciated in the 'big crop'. I'd be happy with either. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may not like it altogether - even that information is useful. Pentax K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm ISO 800, 1/15 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, Anti-shake on Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm -- Bruce -- Get a free email account with anti spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones
Thanks for the comment Bruce. I was actually trying for tree shots for the fall contest, but maybe the headstones in the shot take that away.?? Maybe i could crop and use this in another catagory, as i do like the line up of the stones. Dave On Jan 14, 2008 6:15 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The headstones look pretty cool lined up like that. I think you could crop out about half the frame as the sky and most of the tree don't really do anything for the subject. I'd crop just above the tree line myself. -- Bruce Monday, January 14, 2008, 11:01:33 AM, you wrote: DJB Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , DJB and threw some cameras in the truck. DJB Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after DJB getting my letter. DJB http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 DJB This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do DJB some shooting here. DJB Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old DJB farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are DJB still on the property, some were. DJB K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. DJB Dave DJB Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my DJB digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. DJB Dave again DJB -- DJB Equine Photography DJB www.caughtinmotion.com DJB http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Forest
Ditto Dave On Jan 14, 2008 9:08 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like Mark, I like the first image better and think is would be great as a larger format work. Unlike Mark, I think color is the way to go. I love the greens in with the monochrome gray/browns. Good stuff. Regards, Bob S. On Jan 14, 2008 6:08 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may not like it altogether - even that information is useful. Pentax K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm ISO 800, 1/15 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, Anti-shake on Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm Bill RobbNeeds to be shot large format/Bill Robb Me, I like the first crop better. I think it would also work well as a monochrome conversion (though I haven't tried it so I could be wrong). But I also think that this looks like a large-format kind of image :) I love this kind of image! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: X2
On Jan 15, 2008 11:15 AM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were staying not very close to the beach. When the sky looked to be clearing, we decided to try and catch the sunset. We missed the sun but the clouds remaining light were impressive. I wish I'd have brought my tripod from the car but the SR was certainly helpful. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/4169363#243525768-A-LB I like this one a hell of a lot. Good stuff. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones
I see what you mean. Its snowed again, and its not far from my house, i'll do a re shoot. Dave On Jan 14, 2008 8:44 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this. The only nit I can pick is the way the tree trunk lines up with the edge of the second headstone; and I don't care for the intrusion of the branches from the right. Might a vantage point a bit to the right work better? Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The headstones look pretty cool lined up like that. I think you could crop out about half the frame as the sky and most of the tree don't really do anything for the subject. I'd crop just above the tree line myself. -- Bruce Monday, January 14, 2008, 11:01:33 AM, you wrote: DJB Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , DJB and threw some cameras in the truck. DJB Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after DJB getting my letter. DJB http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 DJB This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do DJB some shooting here. DJB Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old DJB farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are DJB still on the property, some were. DJB K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. DJB Dave DJB Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my DJB digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. DJB Dave again DJB -- DJB Equine Photography DJB www.caughtinmotion.com DJB http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones
Thanks Brian. Its hard, but i'll go back today and re do this one. Maybe i can get in a bit closer or something Dave On Jan 15, 2008 6:41 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nicely composed - the alignment of the headstones really lead the eye into the image. The branches on the right are a bit distracting but I suspect avoiding them would have been difficult. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , and threw some cameras in the truck. Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after getting my letter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do some shooting here. Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are still on the property, some were. K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. Dave Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. Dave again -- -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: X2
Both are excellent shots Cory. Just proves that 50-200 does a great job. The second shot is a real heart string tugger. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Beggar
I think the story helps the shot Cotty. Coffee must be expensive in the UK. Dave On Jan 14, 2008 7:20 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Oxford (UK) recently waiting outside a shop, when this girl came up and asked me for a pound for a cup of tea. I dug into my pocket and found some change. I said she could have the money if I could take her picture. She thought for a moment and said, Okay. But I won't smile. I told her that would not be a problem. I snapped one shot, gave her the quid, and she was gone. The whole encounter took place in less than thirty seconds. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic33.html Epson R-D1 + Voigtlander 28mm Ultron 1.9 ISO 800, 1/40th sec about f5.6 I think I could have done better, maybe not. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
From: Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/14 Mon PM 11:01:06 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Ford claims ownership of images A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! Dear Ford, It has come to my attention that many of photographs used by you contain my exhaled carbon dioxide. As I retain all rights to this exclusive product, I require you to remove said images from all advertising materials and websites. Trusting in your immediate attention to this matter, I remain, etc. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso Tree and Stones II
Another from the cemetery shoot yesterday. Same thing, i'm trying for trees in winter shots, but maybe the stones detract from that. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6840957 K10D, 16-45, LR conversion, CS1 clone dust and minor crop Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
Excellent again ' Dave On Jan 14, 2008 7:53 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de Calais in Pont d'Ardres, Northern France. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/1132137196 As always, your comments and suggestions... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? David Savage wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 3:55 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! Looks good, but it's missing a SmileCheck button. And an instant kittens filter. Cheers, Dave -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo.net talks back - OFFLIST
Yes, well... Good thing I wasn't bad mouthing anyone. That would be really embarrassing :-) Cheers, Dave On Jan 15, 2008 3:43 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 12:23 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised my spam filter didn't catch this... Or my spell checlker Dave David Savage wrote: G'day Paul, It's good to see that they got back to you seem to be taking your concerns seriously. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Depends whether you keep the bits or the juice. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/15 Tue PM 02:13:20 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hilarious K20D photo Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? David Savage wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 3:55 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! Looks good, but it's missing a SmileCheck button. And an instant kittens filter. Cheers, Dave -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
Well it depents. If used in conjunction with the fine (art) filter, yes. If used with the course (grain) filter the results are more chunky. Cheers, Dave On Jan 15, 2008 11:13 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? David Savage wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 3:55 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National Geographic button! Looks good, but it's missing a SmileCheck button. And an instant kittens filter. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
Igor Roshchin wrote: Sorry, I mix them up: Union, Southern, Western... :-) BTW, here is yet another interesting precedences - Court Ruling in a similar and even more relevant to PDML case: http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42796 Pictures of buildings do not violate trademark - Rock Roll Hall of Fame Museum v. Gentile Prods., 134 F.3d 749 (6th Cir. Ohio 1998) And here is a Lockheed Martin Corp.'s free licence to photographers and artists: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/12024.pdf Lockheed Martin is giving up rights it doesn't need to, to give up rights it doesn't have. Igor Mon Jan 14 19:35:38 EST 2008 Steve Sharpe wrote: At 7:31 PM -0500 1/14/08, Igor Roshchin wrote: One of the people recalled on the said club's forum (www.bmcforums.com) a similar story when Southern Pacific (who took over Union Pacific) Vice versa. UP bought out SP. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? It's an email filter -- keeps kittens from posting to the list (all they do is send links to cat photos...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
On Jan 15, 2008 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? It's an email filter -- keeps kittens from posting to the list (all they do is send links to cat photos...) Meow, meow, pur-pur bat a toy, meow. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: X2
Me too!!! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like this one a hell of a lot. Good stuff. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESOs: Tetsuya and mirror lens
Derby: by Lumix LX2, do you mean the point shoot camera? I Goggled the name that's what I got. Nice food shots. You dine elegantly to say the least. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: GESOs: Tetsuya and mirror lens A few GESOs OT: Taken with a Lumix LX2. Noisy noisy, but the raw mode makes it marginally ok. Tried the Silkypix that came with the camera. I don't think I'll be uninstalling Lightroom any time soon. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_tetsuya/index.htm Two mirror pics http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_portraitist/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_aurora/01.htm OK, that's enough of mirror pics for now. Derby -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones
David: I agree with Brian below, and I prefer this one to the PESO Tree Stone II, if you're trying to feature trees. But PESO Tree Stone II is nice too. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:41 AM Subject: Re: Peso Tree and Stones Very nicely composed - the alignment of the headstones really lead the eye into the image. The branches on the right are a bit distracting but I suspect avoiding them would have been difficult. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , and threw some cameras in the truck. Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after getting my letter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do some shooting here. Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are still on the property, some were. K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. Dave Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. Dave again -- -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More panoramic b/w
Ralf: I like it! Really like the BW. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mailingliste pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: PESO: More panoramic b/w Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de Calais in Pont d'Ardres, Northern France. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/1132137196 As always, your comments and suggestions... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
On Jan 16, 2008 12:01 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? It's an email filter -- keeps kittens from posting to the list (all they do is send links to cat photos...) Meow, meow, pur-pur bat a toy, meow. You're such a pussy. Cheers, Dave :-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hilarious K20D photo
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/15 Tue PM 03:01:32 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hilarious K20D photo On Jan 15, 2008 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? It's an email filter -- keeps kittens from posting to the list (all they do is send links to cat photos...) Meow, meow, pur-pur bat a toy, meow. Hiss, scratch, evil slow blink, spray. Nope - not working here, either. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=26313600 April or around it seems... Good news IMO. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D
The poster said it is indeed a preproduction model/firmware. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Forest
Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm - This is a very hard scene to capture. To my eye, images like this usually look too busy with all those branches. I've tried this with Monterey Cypresses several times. It's a pity, because these scenes just beg to be photographed. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Forest
In a message dated 1/14/2008 3:57:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may not like it altogether - even that information is useful. Pentax K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm ISO 800, 1/15 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, Anti-shake on Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm -- Bruce == I like the second better. I tend to like things closer up. Interesting shot. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones
On Jan 15, 2008 10:27 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David: I agree with Brian below, and I prefer this one to the PESO Tree Stone II, if you're trying to feature trees. But PESO Tree Stone II is nice too. Cheers, Christine Thanks I'm am heading out shortly to try and re shoot that 1st one again, if i can Dave - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:41 AM Subject: Re: Peso Tree and Stones Very nicely composed - the alignment of the headstones really lead the eye into the image. The branches on the right are a bit distracting but I suspect avoiding them would have been difficult. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Had to pick up a letter from my Cardiologist in Markham this morning , and threw some cameras in the truck. Its also snowing a bit, so i went looking for tree pictures after getting my letter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6838504 This is a small cemetery south of Stouffville and i have meant to do some shooting here. Just a bit of history, some of the head stones that were at our old farm house, had been moved here, but the spirits, er coffins are still on the property, some were. K10D, 16-45 LR conversion, H/S and dust cloned out in CS1. Dave Oh i threw a roll of Kodak BW film in the 6x7 and duplicated my digital shots on film as a just in case my conversions suck. Dave again -- -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)
To late. Already ordered a 28-75 Dave On Jan 15, 2008 11:21 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=26313600 April or around it seems... Good news IMO. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Beggar
Cotty wrote: I was in Oxford (UK) recently waiting outside a shop, when this girl came up and asked me for a pound for a cup of tea. I dug into my pocket and found some change. I said she could have the money if I could take her picture. She thought for a moment and said, Okay. But I won't smile. I told her that would not be a problem. I snapped one shot, gave her the quid, and she was gone. The whole encounter took place in less than thirty seconds. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic33.html Epson R-D1 + Voigtlander 28mm Ultron 1.9 ISO 800, 1/40th sec about f5.6 I think I could have done better, maybe not. YAWN. :-) I find nothing endearing in this shot. Girl stands and pouts, Cotty snaps a pic. No composition, no connection with the subject. Sorry, Cot. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
Cotty wrote: On 14/01/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too many lenses. be more appropriate, (and more a likely candidate for a t-shirt that most members would wear. (I'm being totally non biased here, I'm not responsible for either of these quotes).* I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. Ditto I would buy a T shirt saying 'You can never have to many lenses'. Ditto In relatively small, understated lettering, no graphics. Ditto XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? Please. Pretty please. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones II
Well, if you are trying for trees, then they need to be the subject. This one, like the previous one, is about the headstone. Not that this is a bad shot, just that the trees are more of a framing element rather than the subject. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 5:21:46 AM, you wrote: DJB Another from the cemetery shoot yesterday. DJB Same thing, i'm trying for trees in winter shots, but maybe the stones DJB detract from that. DJB http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6840957 DJB K10D, 16-45, LR conversion, CS1 clone dust and minor crop DJB Dave DJB -- DJB Equine Photography DJB www.caughtinmotion.com DJB http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
In a message dated 1/14/2008 4:59:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de Calais in Pont d'Ardres, Northern France. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/1132137196 As always, your comments and suggestions... Ralf == Very nice. Never found any fault with your pictures before, so bear with. :-) I'd clone out the weed in the lower left, and I am a bit bothered by the house on the left being chopped off, be nice to angle the whole thing a tad more to the left. But very, very nice. It is calm. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. Ditto I just bought one of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybikes/2051150920/ My wife finds it slightly less humorous than I do. I would most definitely buy a shirt that says My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Forest
yes, it seems to be about evenly divided. I'm guessing that some see this photo as a forest type shot and others see it as a texture shot. Your perception of the type of photo would lean you toward one crop or the other. I guess I'll have to decide for myself and disappoint half of you :) . Anyway, thanks to all for your thoughts and opinions. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 3:34:49 AM, you wrote: BW It seems to me that the responses so far haven't helped you decide which works best. BW As a dedicated 'fence sitter', I'm not going to help either :-) BW I prefer the composition of the 'minor crop' but the texture BW in the bark is better appreciated in the 'big crop'. BW I'd be happy with either. BW Cheers BW Brian BW ++ BW Brian Walters BW Western Sydney Australia BW http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ BW Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may not like it altogether - even that information is useful. Pentax K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 19mm ISO 800, 1/15 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, Anti-shake on Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm -- Bruce BW -- BW Get a free email account with anti spam protection. BW http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Beggar
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: PESO - Beggar http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic33.html Epson R-D1 + Voigtlander 28mm Ultron 1.9 ISO 800, 1/40th sec about f5.6 I think I could have done better, maybe not. YAWN. :-) I find nothing endearing in this shot. Girl stands and pouts, Cotty snaps a pic. No composition, no connection with the subject. Sorry, Cot. Yes, but he paid her, so now she is a professional model EB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. Reproducing logos without permission (like those in photographs) is rarely allowed by the trademark owner. In some cases, companies even assert tight controls over the shapes of their products (like the classic Coke bottle) and have taken folks to court to restrict their unauthorized use. I once submitted a shot for stock where a woman was wearing a Tiffany Co. necklace. In order to see the name you would have had to magnify the image 300% and even then only part of the logo was legible. It was still rejected since I couldn't prove Tiffany was ok with it through a release. I removed it in photoshop instead. -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check the law before you make statements like that. Ford has no rights to assert here. I hope that's not what you do for a living, your clients are being ill served. Brendan MacRae wrote: Ford has every right to insist on rights of images using their products in materials that are to be distributed and sold. If they hadn't gone through Cafe Press, there may not have been any legal entanglement of if the members were to reproduce images for limited use among themselves. In either case, I doubt Ford would care one way or the other. -Brendan --- Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: On 14/01/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too many lenses. be more appropriate, (and more a likely candidate for a t-shirt that most members would wear. (I'm being totally non biased here, I'm not responsible for either of these quotes).* I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. Ditto Me neither I would buy a T shirt saying 'You can never have to many lenses'. Ditto Definitely In relatively small, understated lettering, no graphics. Ditto XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? X-Large Please. Pretty please. -p -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)
David, I'm sure the 28-75 will be a very fine lens too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On Jan 15, 2008 12:53 PM, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: On 14/01/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too many lenses. be more appropriate, (and more a likely candidate for a t-shirt that most members would wear. (I'm being totally non biased here, I'm not responsible for either of these quotes).* I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. Ditto Me neither Nor I I would buy a T shirt saying 'You can never have to many lenses'. Ditto Definitely I In relatively small, understated lettering, no graphics. Ditto XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? X-Large Double XL, as i find US T shirts smaller than the ones we get up here. Please. Pretty please. PP Please. Dave -p -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree and Stones II
On Jan 15, 2008 12:14 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you are trying for trees, then they need to be the subject. This one, like the previous one, is about the headstone. Not that this is a bad shot, just that the trees are more of a framing element rather than the subject. Thanks. I can see that now from the comments on both. Dave -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 5:21:46 AM, you wrote: DJB Another from the cemetery shoot yesterday. DJB Same thing, i'm trying for trees in winter shots, but maybe the stones DJB detract from that. DJB http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6840957 DJB K10D, 16-45, LR conversion, CS1 clone dust and minor crop DJB Dave DJB -- DJB Equine Photography DJB www.caughtinmotion.com DJB http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
I would buy a T Shirt that says You can have too many lenses. Distraction is destructive. If I wore logo'ed T Shirts, that is. I don't. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)
From all I hear, I think so. My reply was just a, crap already ordered a lens, reply.:-) Dave On Jan 15, 2008 12:51 PM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, I'm sure the 28-75 will be a very fine lens too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On 14/01/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Or was that an intentional typo to reflect the list more accurately? Unintentional, but Dave B's shirt would be that one ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On 14/01/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I'd prefer it *without* the spelling error ... Ack sory ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On Jan 15, 2008 1:19 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/01/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Or was that an intentional typo to reflect the list more accurately? Unintentional, but Dave B's shirt would be that one ;-) Again, all alone in the world. Some days i wonder why i have more than one lenses. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming
Looks like some changes to my online photo finisher here in the GTA. Dear Future Photo Member, The world of digital photography is changing rapidly, and as a result, so is our approach to the photo finishing business. As a result of these changes, Future Shop has closed its ten in-store Future Photo labs and these stores will become pick-up locations effective January 14, 2008, to match the rest of the stores across Canada. Customers will be able to continue to order online and have their orders shipped to home or delivered to one of our Future Shop stores for free in-store pick-up. All outstanding photo orders can be picked up from the store's Customer Service counter. We regret any inconvenience this might cause. Future Shop is also announcing an exciting new partnership with Kodak Gallery for Canada. Beginning in Spring 2008, Future Photo customers will have access to Kodak Gallery and its range of high quality prints and photo merchandise. Look for more updates on this new partnership in upcoming weeks. We would like to thank you for your support of Future Photo and we look forward to continue meeting your photo finishing needs. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On Jan 15, 2008 12:11 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5155769608380158002 This is the logo for the hats i made in 2006 for GFM Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: X2
On 14/01/08, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway... We went to a state park where they had lots of interesting birds. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/4169363#243523049-A-LB Wow - that's one helluva bird. We were staying not very close to the beach. When the sky looked to be clearing, we decided to try and catch the sunset. We missed the sun but the clouds remaining light were impressive. I wish I'd have brought my tripod from the car but the SR was certainly helpful. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/4169363#243525768-A-LB Beautiful. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line On 14/01/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I'd prefer it *without* the spelling error ... Ack sory ;-) Probably my fault. GB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Beggar
On 14/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: EB Come back WW, all is forgiven. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: JADP
Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
Brendan MacRae wrote: What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. ah, but nonetheless, I've been told my a back-stage guy in the industry that when programs are shooting say a scene in a store for, say, Law and Order the post-processing people are busy blurring out the names of products on shelves if the original shots were too sharp. I had to pull several of my designs off of cafepress because I used tiles that are used in scrabble and used the key word Scrabble to get people there The tiles were not made by Hasbro, they were made by a player who was fully licensed to make them and whose product I was advertising - in otherwords, I had his permission. Several of my designs were blocked by cafepress because of fear of Hasbro who continuallly go after the little people . Of course, none of the designs say Scrabble on them. Anothe firend got her design blocked by cafepress because she had the image of a perfume bottle that said CHALLENGE No. 5 on it. Her own drawing. and a line about how one drop would keep your op from challenging your word. Cafepress nixed it because of Chanel. Glad someone pointed out the stuff about buildings... I still want to do a calendar about bus travel that would include photos of Greyhound bus stations ... but I've been dragging my feet on it partly out of not wanting to get pounced on by them. ann Reproducing logos without permission (like those in photographs) is rarely allowed by the trademark owner. In some cases, companies even assert tight controls over the shapes of their products (like the classic Coke bottle) and have taken folks to court to restrict their unauthorized use. I once submitted a shot for stock where a woman was wearing a Tiffany Co. necklace. In order to see the name you would have had to magnify the image 300% and even then only part of the logo was legible. It was still rejected since I couldn't prove Tiffany was ok with it through a release. I removed it in photoshop instead. -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check the law before you make statements like that. Ford has no rights to assert here. I hope that's not what you do for a living, your clients are being ill served. Brendan MacRae wrote: Ford has every right to insist on rights of images using their products in materials that are to be distributed and sold. If they hadn't gone through Cafe Press, there may not have been any legal entanglement of if the members were to reproduce images for limited use among themselves. In either case, I doubt Ford would care one way or the other. -Brendan --- Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming Looks like some changes to my online photo finisher here in the GTA. Dear Future Photo Member, The world of digital photography is changing rapidly, and as a result, so is our approach to the photo finishing business. As a result of these changes, Future Shop has closed its ten in-store Future Photo labs and these stores will become pick-up locations effective January 14, 2008, to match the rest of the stores across Canada. Customers will be able to continue to order online and have their orders shipped to home or delivered to one of our Future Shop stores for free in-store pick-up. All outstanding photo orders can be picked up from the store's Customer Service counter. We regret any inconvenience this might cause. I expect they made a deal with Qualex, and everything will come through their Mississauga lab. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JADP
- Original Message - From: wendy beard Subject: PESO: JADP Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd He's sure growing up pretty. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On 1/15/08, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. Ditto I just bought one of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybikes/2051150920/ My wife finds it slightly less humorous than I do. I would most definitely buy a shirt that says My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. Hell, I'd buy my GF a shirt that said My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: JADP
On 15/01/08, wendy beard, discombobulated, unleashed: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy, I love your dog pics, they're terrific. But I keep thinking of this cartoon every time I see one ;-) http://picasaweb.google.com/rachelncole/Funnies/photo#4998513953473101842 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
It isn't advertising, it can be photographed in public. Sorry, the only reason to remove the logo is to avoid a frivolous law suit, if the loser had to pay in the US Ford would never have brought it. This is entirely covered under fair use. Ford should be happy for the free advertising. Brendan MacRae wrote: What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. Reproducing logos without permission (like those in photographs) is rarely allowed by the trademark owner. In some cases, companies even assert tight controls over the shapes of their products (like the classic Coke bottle) and have taken folks to court to restrict their unauthorized use. I once submitted a shot for stock where a woman was wearing a Tiffany Co. necklace. In order to see the name you would have had to magnify the image 300% and even then only part of the logo was legible. It was still rejected since I couldn't prove Tiffany was ok with it through a release. I removed it in photoshop instead. -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check the law before you make statements like that. Ford has no rights to assert here. I hope that's not what you do for a living, your clients are being ill served. Brendan MacRae wrote: Ford has every right to insist on rights of images using their products in materials that are to be distributed and sold. If they hadn't gone through Cafe Press, there may not have been any legal entanglement of if the members were to reproduce images for limited use among themselves. In either case, I doubt Ford would care one way or the other. -Brendan --- Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
--- ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan MacRae wrote: What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. ah, but nonetheless, I've been told my a back-stage guy in the industry that when programs are shooting say a scene in a store for, say, Law and Order the post-processing people are busy blurring out the names of products on shelves if the original shots were too sharp. Right. My reference to TV is for news broadcasting, not teleplays. That which is within the public interest. -Brendan Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, and then sue Ford; their lawyers have way too much time on their hands. stan On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object. http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts- returns.php So does your next photo need a model release from every company whose products happen to be in it? This is insanity! -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
- Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images --- ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan MacRae wrote: What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. ah, but nonetheless, I've been told my a back-stage guy in the industry that when programs are shooting say a scene in a store for, say, Law and Order the post-processing people are busy blurring out the names of products on shelves if the original shots were too sharp. Right. My reference to TV is for news broadcasting, not teleplays. That which is within the public interest. This is where the calender people are running afoul of things. If the brand or nameplates are recognizable, they probably are in violation of copyright law, if the vehicle is recognizable as a particular make/model, they may be in violation as well. I think Ford is being pretty stupid to push the issue, though if it showed their product in a bad way, they would be wise to pursue it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. -Adam On 1/14/08, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de Calais in Pont d'Ardres, Northern France. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/1132137196 As always, your comments and suggestions... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... I read in Popular Mechanics and I believe Car and Driver that the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford problem, in that the Explorer suspension was inherently unstable, so they chose a small tire and listed dangerously low inflation pressures in the manual to drop the center of gravity so as to stabilize the vehicle rather than re-engineer the suspension and fix their own screw up. Essentially, they chose to kill their customers and blame Firestone rather than fix their shitty vehicles. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is where the calender people are running afoul of things. If the brand or nameplates are recognizable, they probably are in violation of copyright law, if the vehicle is recognizable as a particular make/model, they may be in violation as well. I think Ford is being pretty stupid to push the issue, though if it showed their product in a bad way, they would be wise to pursue it. William Robb I agree with that. I would guess Ford's legal dept is trying to stay consistant and not allow some use here and there while restricting others. Inconsistancy could hurt them ...down the road (pun intended). -Brendan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't advertising, it can be photographed in public. Sorry, the only reason to remove the logo is to avoid a frivolous law suit, if the loser had to pay in the US Ford would never have brought it. This is entirely covered under fair use. Ford should be happy for the free advertising. It isn't free advertising. It's Ford wanting to limit 3rd party profit through the use of their trademarks. Ford gets all the free advertising it needs with every blue oval they slap on their cars. -Brendan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
So you can have the wrong one mounted on the camera... David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 1:19 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/01/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Or was that an intentional typo to reflect the list more accurately? Unintentional, but Dave B's shirt would be that one ;-) Again, all alone in the world. Some days i wonder why i have more than one lenses. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
When it's not on a hat it looks like the your lens is cracked... David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 12:11 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5155769608380158002 This is the logo for the hats i made in 2006 for GFM Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESOs: Tetsuya and mirror lens
Hi Christine, Yep, the Panasonic version, rather than the pricey Leica one. The sensor is pretty noisy above ISO200-400, but I didn't want to pull out big black K10D. Wanted to be discreet, you know. Other than the sensor, I'm pretty happy with the LX2, especially in RAW mode. All the main controls are handily available on the joystick or physical switches. It even as a very usable manual focus feature. Thanks for looking. D Christine Aguila wrote: Derby: by Lumix LX2, do you mean the point shoot camera? I Goggled the name that's what I got. Nice food shots. You dine elegantly to say the least. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: GESOs: Tetsuya and mirror lens A few GESOs OT: Taken with a Lumix LX2. Noisy noisy, but the raw mode makes it marginally ok. Tried the Silkypix that came with the camera. I don't think I'll be uninstalling Lightroom any time soon. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_tetsuya/index.htm Two mirror pics http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_portraitist/01.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_01/08_01_aurora/01.htm OK, that's enough of mirror pics for now. Derby -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... I read in Popular Mechanics and I believe Car and Driver that the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford problem, in that the Explorer suspension was inherently unstable, so they chose a small tire and listed dangerously low inflation pressures in the manual to drop the center of gravity so as to stabilize the vehicle rather than re-engineer the suspension and fix their own screw up. Essentially, they chose to kill their customers and blame Firestone rather than fix their shitty vehicles. That is essentially correct. They also had some complaints about road noise from customers who bought Exploders with those tires. Ford's fix was to drop the pressure below Firestone's recommendation. Two birds and all that crap. Chrysler apparently paid attention to all the hoopla. When the Liberty first hit the street it had a similar stability problem. The initial batch was recalled and they were lowered a small amount. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: JADP
His teeth are puppy white. wendy beard wrote: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. What I have in mind is a small logo on the front: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/logopdml.png (note the .png format, because lossy compression is for losers...) And the quotation on the back. I'll probably have one or two quotations to choose from. Maybe more. We'll see. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
You can never get enough advertising. However that was just an aside. Ford would lose this in court, their claim is frivolous. Ford is in no way harmed, no one is going to confuse the car club with Ford Motor Company. If loser paid Ford would never have brought the action. (Right now it has the possibility of becoming free bad advertising.) Part of the reason that production companies go through the trouble of obscuring all trademarks is to not give free advertising, if you want product placement you have to pay for it. All of the items cited by Annsan would also most likely not hold up in court. However Cafe Press doesn't want to go through the trouble of fighting them, which is understandable, they're not in the business of protecting artists rights, they're in the business of selling products. Now there may have been a reason for Tiffany being obscured in your picture, if it was for an advertisement of a similar product, or one that Tiffany could be construed as endorsing. That's another matter. Brendan MacRae wrote: --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't advertising, it can be photographed in public. Sorry, the only reason to remove the logo is to avoid a frivolous law suit, if the loser had to pay in the US Ford would never have brought it. This is entirely covered under fair use. Ford should be happy for the free advertising. It isn't free advertising. It's Ford wanting to limit 3rd party profit through the use of their trademarks. Ford gets all the free advertising it needs with every blue oval they slap on their cars. -Brendan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: JADP
Well done, as usual. I like your dog portraits. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 10:51:46 AM, you wrote: wb Just Another Dog Photo wb http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 wb Ivan aged 8 months wb K10D, 77ltd wb Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
my lawyers will be in touch. Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. What I have in mind is a small logo on the front: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/logopdml.png (note the .png format, because lossy compression is for losers...) And the quotation on the back. I'll probably have one or two quotations to choose from. Maybe more. We'll see. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
It's subtle, but there is texture there. Excellent work, Ralf. Adam Maas wrote: Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. -Adam On 1/14/08, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de Calais in Pont d'Ardres, Northern France. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/1132137196 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
...the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford problem, in that the Explorer suspension was inherently unstable... Not so. The Explorer suspension was not unique to the vehicle. ...so they chose a small tire and listed dangerously low inflation pressures in the manual to drop the center of gravity so as to stabilize the vehicle rather than re-engineer the suspension and fix their own screw up. The tire size was consistent with other similar vehicles. The specified inflation pressure was within the recommendations of Firestone. There were several other factors involved - Firestone made a change to the internal construction of the tire used which made it less robust tire inflation was not monitored by the owner/drivers. The tire failures were mainly blow outs, resulting in loss of control by the operator subsequent roll over if not controlled properly. Essentially, they chose to kill their customers Yep, that's the goal of most companies ...and blame Firestone rather than fix their shitty vehicles. That explains why it has been the best selling SUV in its class. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... I read in Popular Mechanics and I believe Car and Driver that the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford problem, in that the Explorer suspension was inherently unstable, so they chose a small tire and listed dangerously low inflation pressures in the manual to drop the center of gravity so as to stabilize the vehicle rather than re-engineer the suspension and fix their own screw up. Essentially, they chose to kill their customers and blame Firestone rather than fix their shitty vehicles. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nice to angle the whole thing a tad more to the left. The Noblex is a rangefinder camera (if that is what one calls a viewfinder made of two lenses in a rectangular box where you look straight through) and precise framing is total guesswork. I already had to fake a few millimeters of sky at the top because the top of the silo was almost touching the top of the frame. But very, very nice. It is calm. Yep. Glad you like it anyhow. How's the sky on your monitor, as far as texture goes? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
No, in the Tiffany case it was the stock company not wanting to face possible litigation, just like Cafe Press. Trademarks are strictly off limits unless you get permission or can prove public domain. -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can never get enough advertising. However that was just an aside. Ford would lose this in court, their claim is frivolous. Ford is in no way harmed, no one is going to confuse the car club with Ford Motor Company. If loser paid Ford would never have brought the action. (Right now it has the possibility of becoming free bad advertising.) Part of the reason that production companies go through the trouble of obscuring all trademarks is to not give free advertising, if you want product placement you have to pay for it. All of the items cited by Annsan would also most likely not hold up in court. However Cafe Press doesn't want to go through the trouble of fighting them, which is understandable, they're not in the business of protecting artists rights, they're in the business of selling products. Now there may have been a reason for Tiffany being obscured in your picture, if it was for an advertisement of a similar product, or one that Tiffany could be construed as endorsing. That's another matter. Brendan MacRae wrote: --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't advertising, it can be photographed in public. Sorry, the only reason to remove the logo is to avoid a frivolous law suit, if the loser had to pay in the US Ford would never have brought it. This is entirely covered under fair use. Ford should be happy for the free advertising. It isn't free advertising. It's Ford wanting to limit 3rd party profit through the use of their trademarks. Ford gets all the free advertising it needs with every blue oval they slap on their cars. -Brendan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. There *is* texture in the sky. Not much but it's clearly visible, on my screen. Besides, on the few days when there was more texture in this sky, I would have been blown into the canal. Have you ever heard the legs of your tripod whistle in the wind? That's the Pas de Calais in winter for you. Two simple rules. Rule 1: When there's no storm there's fog. When there's no fog, there's storm. Rule 2: You can't see the famous cliffs of Dover from the French side when it rains. If you can see the cliffs of Dover, there'll be rain. ;-) Still, I love the region. How's the sky on the other contributors' monitors? Anyone else using a calibrated display? Mine is callibrated with a Colorvision Spyder. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
On 1/15/08, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. There *is* texture in the sky. Not much but it's clearly visible, on my screen. Besides, on the few days when there was more texture in this sky, I would have been blown into the canal. Have you ever heard the legs of your tripod whistle in the wind? That's the Pas de Calais in winter for you. Two simple rules. Rule 1: When there's no storm there's fog. When there's no fog, there's storm. Rule 2: You can't see the famous cliffs of Dover from the French side when it rains. If you can see the cliffs of Dover, there'll be rain. ;-) Still, I love the region. How's the sky on the other contributors' monitors? Anyone else using a calibrated display? Mine is callibrated with a Colorvision Spyder. Ralf May be my monitor then, I'll take a look at home if I actually have IP when I get home. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
Excellent, Ken. Please take the stand:-). I find it very entertaining that so many people, who know so little about automobiles, are always ready to trash the US auto industry. It's been a popular indoor sport since Ralph and company kicked it off in the late sixties with another misinformation campaign. Paul -- Original message -- From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford problem, in that the Explorer suspension was inherently unstable... Not so. The Explorer suspension was not unique to the vehicle. ...so they chose a small tire and listed dangerously low inflation pressures in the manual to drop the center of gravity so as to stabilize the vehicle rather than re-engineer the suspension and fix their own screw up. The tire size was consistent with other similar vehicles. The specified inflation pressure was within the recommendations of Firestone. There were several other factors involved - Firestone made a change to the internal construction of the tire used which made it less robust tire inflation was not monitored by the owner/drivers. The tire failures were mainly blow outs, resulting in loss of control by the operator subsequent roll over if not controlled properly. Essentially, they chose to kill their customers Yep, that's the goal of most companies ...and blame Firestone rather than fix their shitty vehicles. That explains why it has been the best selling SUV in its class. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... I read in Popular Mechanics and I believe Car and Driver that the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford problem, in that the Explorer suspension was inherently unstable, so they chose a small tire and listed dangerously low inflation pressures in the manual to drop the center of gravity so as to stabilize the vehicle rather than re-engineer the suspension and fix their own screw up. Essentially, they chose to kill their customers and blame Firestone rather than fix their shitty vehicles. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~
Francis wrote: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=513gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscusstb=sb Critiques of the photo or the website are both sincerely appreciated (especially any suggestions for our recently rebuilt home page). Thanks for looking, Francis This makes me feel so peaceful. I love the aerial perspective, almost Chinese in a way. Lovely. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming
I suppose we'll hear soon. I use them for some of my prints, and i think they do a decent job, plus they deliver. Dave On Jan 15, 2008 2:07 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming Looks like some changes to my online photo finisher here in the GTA. Dear Future Photo Member, The world of digital photography is changing rapidly, and as a result, so is our approach to the photo finishing business. As a result of these changes, Future Shop has closed its ten in-store Future Photo labs and these stores will become pick-up locations effective January 14, 2008, to match the rest of the stores across Canada. Customers will be able to continue to order online and have their orders shipped to home or delivered to one of our Future Shop stores for free in-store pick-up. All outstanding photo orders can be picked up from the store's Customer Service counter. We regret any inconvenience this might cause. I expect they made a deal with Qualex, and everything will come through their Mississauga lab. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On Jan 15, 2008 3:09 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my lawyers will be in touch. Their busy at Ford right now, take a number.:-) Dave Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. What I have in mind is a small logo on the front: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/logopdml.png (note the .png format, because lossy compression is for losers...) And the quotation on the back. I'll probably have one or two quotations to choose from. Maybe more. We'll see. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ford claims ownership of images
That is correct. They are strictly off limits. You cannot use someone else's trade mark, and in the case of a stock photo containing jewelry there is more than a little chance that a Jewelry Store purchasing it for advertising, and not being a Tiffany distributor. might run afoul of that. However that is a very different case than the one that Ford's ham handed legal department is creating. You can make and sell photographs of trademarked items clearly showing the trademark as long as you don't claim the trademark as your own. Brendan MacRae wrote: No, in the Tiffany case it was the stock company not wanting to face possible litigation, just like Cafe Press. Trademarks are strictly off limits unless you get permission or can prove public domain. -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can never get enough advertising. However that was just an aside. Ford would lose this in court, their claim is frivolous. Ford is in no way harmed, no one is going to confuse the car club with Ford Motor Company. If loser paid Ford would never have brought the action. (Right now it has the possibility of becoming free bad advertising.) Part of the reason that production companies go through the trouble of obscuring all trademarks is to not give free advertising, if you want product placement you have to pay for it. All of the items cited by Annsan would also most likely not hold up in court. However Cafe Press doesn't want to go through the trouble of fighting them, which is understandable, they're not in the business of protecting artists rights, they're in the business of selling products. Now there may have been a reason for Tiffany being obscured in your picture, if it was for an advertisement of a similar product, or one that Tiffany could be construed as endorsing. That's another matter. Brendan MacRae wrote: --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't advertising, it can be photographed in public. Sorry, the only reason to remove the logo is to avoid a frivolous law suit, if the loser had to pay in the US Ford would never have brought it. This is entirely covered under fair use. Ford should be happy for the free advertising. It isn't free advertising. It's Ford wanting to limit 3rd party profit through the use of their trademarks. Ford gets all the free advertising it needs with every blue oval they slap on their cars. -Brendan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: JADP
On Jan 15, 2008 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His teeth are puppy white. Wait till he starts hanging out with the Labs, smoking, drinking, barking, tail wagging. Dave wendy beard wrote: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: JADP
Thats great. Dave On Jan 15, 2008 1:51 PM, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On Jan 15, 2008 2:55 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. What I have in mind is a small logo on the front: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/logopdml.png Looks nothing like a Cormorant at all. Dave (note the .png format, because lossy compression is for losers...) And the quotation on the back. I'll probably have one or two quotations to choose from. Maybe more. We'll see. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
How's the sky on the other contributors' monitors? Anyone else using a calibrated display? Mine is callibrated with a Colorvision Spyder. Excellent, delicate texturing is visible on both my laptop and desktop monitors. Both are calibrated with the Eye One Display 2 unit and its accompanying software. My calibration settings are 130 Luminance, 1.8 gamma, 5500K white point. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
Ralf: Even on my crappy monitor at work, I'm getting lovely, delicate texturing (I'm quoting Godfrey below). Frankly, I wouldn't worry about a thing with this photo. It's lovely as is, in my view. Big cheers, Christine -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 15, 2008 3:06 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w How's the sky on the other contributors' monitors? Anyone else using a calibrated display? Mine is callibrated with a Colorvision Spyder. Excellent, delicate texturing is visible on both my laptop and desktop monitors. Both are calibrated with the Eye One Display 2 unit and its accompanying software. My calibration settings are 130 Luminance, 1.8 gamma, 5500K white point. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Christine Aguila Instructor English Department Truman College -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My calibration settings are 130 Luminance, 1.8 gamma, 5500K white point. Aha. Same here. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:53:22PM -0500, David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 2:55 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. What I have in mind is a small logo on the front: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/logopdml.png Looks nothing like a Cormorant at all. :-) One further nitpick: According to Doug's pdml.net page, PDML stands for Pentax-Discuss Mail List. Note the hyphen. Grammatically it should probably be Discussion, not Discuss, but that's Doug's decision. But if we spell the name out at all, we should go with the hyphenated name as it shows up on PDML.net I also prefer the message on the front of a T-shirt, not the back; some of us occasionally wear jackets. Here's a shirt I'm considering buying: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/374d/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
