RE: New Body vs. New Lens
Domke 1 'Gripper' straps are the best. 2nd best are Leica straps, but they don't have a swivel. The LX strap was also excellent. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: 25 January 2008 05:27 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around your neck on strap all day shooting it can become a very heavy load after a while. Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML logo stuff
On 24/01/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: one from Britain (not Cotty - someone in Devon) I don't like the font. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Merc number 2
On 24/01/08, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: I like the converging lines. Works for me. The blue light is nice as well. I only just now realized that Merc was short for Mercedes...totally different car over here, Mercury. Thanks Brendan. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Ernesto - a man with the camera
(with apologies to Edward Bulwer-Lytton, Peter Benchley, J D Salinger and Gabriel Garcia Marquez) Have you ever entered the Bulwer-Lytton contest? Just did :o) Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Lowepro sells a couple straps including a Neoprene one which I like very much. Even my SuperA+Motor (and its 8 AA cells) feels a lot lighter with that strap. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: preorder K20D already
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax marketing was never more than what the engineers did during coffee breaks Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Verbatim SD card problem
Hi All, I recently bought some 1GB Verbatim SD cards, 3 of them work just fine, but with one of the cards, when placed in the camera says card is electronically locked. The camera (K10D) won't read the card so I can't format it. Any ideas? Thanks Feroze -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Then finish off the new PC. Then find a new pro lab. Local one turned up its toes over the holidays Odd, as it was part of a large arts supplies house and the whole organisation has gone, not just the lab. Lenses and bodies are the last thing on my mind. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/24 Thu PM 09:38:24 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Like cars, they can drift either way. Guns are XYY. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bigfoot?
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/24 Thu PM 05:54:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Bigfoot? Oh we won't stand out at GFM this year, oh no, we'll blend right in. PDML shirts, PDML GFM hats, no one will see us.:-) We can just hang around the nature preserve and the other participants can shoot birds in habitat. Are you trying to tell us that the PDML has lovely plumage? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: HELP ME!!!! Computer Advice Solicited.
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/24 Thu PM 09:21:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: HELP ME Computer Advice Solicited. I am on my seventh PC now, never had a single problem with Windows or hardware before. This new machine is making me mental. The hardware is as follows: Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe AMD Athlon 6000+ Dual Core 4 GB Ram Matrox Parhelia aPVe video Card. Gigabyte I-Ram 4GB Ram installed (it's actually quite useless and I expect I'll remove it for a real hard drive). I have 5 physical drives installed, 2 as a striped RAID, 2 as a mirrored RAID, and a single SATA drive, plus four external hard drives, one eSata and three USB. Nice rig. You don't mention the power supply. With ASUS's online power supply calc http://support.asus.com/PowerSupplyCalculator/PSCalculator.aspx?SLanguage=en-us (I guessed some of your parameters)you need a _minimum_ of 600W. I would add 25% to make sure. On top of that, many PSU suppliers are economical with the actualite so you may need to go even higher. As I've just started creating the same base spec machine, I hope you are successful in sorting this. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
I like the Tamarac straps that can be quickly detached when you don't want them in the way. They're also well padded and quite comfortable. Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Verbatim SD card problem
haha, checked that one right in the beginning... Paul Stenquist wrote: Push the lock button to the unlocked position. Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Feroze wrote: Hi All, I recently bought some 1GB Verbatim SD cards, 3 of them work just fine, but with one of the cards, when placed in the camera says card is electronically locked. The camera (K10D) won't read the card so I can't format it. Any ideas? Thanks Feroze -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Verbatim SD card problem
Push the lock button to the unlocked position. Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Feroze wrote: Hi All, I recently bought some 1GB Verbatim SD cards, 3 of them work just fine, but with one of the cards, when placed in the camera says card is electronically locked. The camera (K10D) won't read the card so I can't format it. Any ideas? Thanks Feroze -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Please no, don't do that. My Epson R2400 is an absolute gem. Perfect BW tonality, vivid color and prints that are a dead-on match for what's on my monitor. Photography needs Epson. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Voigtlander 58/1.4
Uh-oh. The Nikon mount has sold out, and the PKA is not even in production yet. What does this mean? http://www.cameraquest.com/Voigt_SL2.htm Means I better be ready to slap my paypal down as soon as Mr K gets his act together. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fishing
David Savage wrote: G'day All, It's kind of an obscure title, but I'm hopeless at titling my shots (~160kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_041.htm As always.you know the drill. Cheers, Dave Noice. Light is perfectly balanced, and the fishing rods all look very earnest. Whenever WA wants to secede from Australia, I hope the wine and the seafood still make it over here tax free. Happy Australia Day. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Range Rover
frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2yvwwh http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R5XyyI8j31I/BXs/HuETVLxYd_o/s1600-h/jan_21_08+003.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks in advance. cheers, frank Fun. So appropriate how the RR crowds out all of the trees. Ontario four wheel drives look just as clean as they do here, nary a speck of dirt on 'em. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Range Rover
On Jan 25, 2008 8:34 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2yvwwh http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R5XyyI8j31I/BXs/HuETVLxYd_o/s1600-h/jan_21_08+003.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks in advance. cheers, frank Fun. So appropriate how the RR crowds out all of the trees. Ontario four wheel drives look just as clean as they do here, nary a speck of dirt on 'em. LOL. I saw one of these today just like the one in Frank's shot, those tyres would be useless in anything softer than a nature strip. :-) BTW, nice shot knarF Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/25 Fri AM 11:42:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Please no, don't do that. My Epson R2400 is an absolute gem. Perfect BW tonality, vivid color and prints that are a dead-on match for what's on my monitor. Photography needs Epson. Paul Wait until it needs the teeniest, tiniest 10c part. That Epson will not sell to you. Then tell me that.. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director
In Spanish, I am afraid: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-k20d-pentax-k200d-mario-britschgi-,1_3961 some links to videos showing the new cameras included. The site also has a K20D preview with samples, from Dubai: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-k20d-analisis-muestras,1_3947 Some headlines: - Pentax will be, in a way or another, in the full frame field. It is a natural trend But it is a complex development because it has immediate implications in the optics (lens), for instance' - The 645D project is not over: it still makes sense to keep developing it - They are looking for the 15% market share in Europe (currently they are in half of this figure) Regards, Jaume __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Bernie Boston: 1933 - 2008
Photojournalist Bernie Boston died yesterday at age 74. Most people know him as the photographer who took the iconic 1967 shot of war protesters placing flowers in the barrels of the guns of National Guard troops sent to quell the protest. A luck few of us know him as the guy who came to speak at the 2003 Grandfather Mountain Camera Clinic and hung around Bill Owens camper with us telling stories long into the night. Funny stories. Man, what a story teller! One hell of a nice, down to earth guy and a great photographer. http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-boston24jan24,1,5543324.story -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Tree line in colour
On Jan 25, 2008 10:00 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Nice photo as Rick and Paul said. I like the color better and the 2 tone aspect of it. Did you re-crop or does it just look that much better in color? Regards, Bob S. No a bit of a recrop. However. It would not crop the same way as the first time, in LR, for some reason, and this one has a bit more foreground. The crop tool in LR gives me a problem sometimes. Dave On Jan 25, 2008 7:48 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick wanted to see a colour version of this, so here ya go. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6876554 Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
When I carry two cameras, I usually have the preferred lens on the #1 camera in my hand, the second camera on my left shoulder is used maybe 15-20% of the time for an alternate view. E.g., #1 might be 16-50mm, #2 might be 14mm or 77mm or 100/macro. Or #1 might be 50-135mm, with the 21mm on #2. So the relatively infrequent use of #2 means that the extra hassle of using it from left-shoulder position doesn't become that big a deal. If I get into a situation where I am using #2 for more than a few shots, then I do relocate it to around the neck. As far as the security of the on-the-shoulder position, when I am using two cameras it usually is when I am also wearing my camera backpack. I hook a largish carabiner to the camera strap and the pack's shoulder strap - if the camera does slip off my shoulder it doesn't hit the ground. But my basic approach is that the camera I am shooting with is in my hand, and secondary camera(s) are in a comfortable albeit not the most accessible spot. And I can carry a K10D with grip attached, with heavy lens, in my hand for a lot longer than I can tolerate the weight around my neck or even on my shoulder. stan On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but it's efficient. Why? First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched. Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off the shoulder and wrap it around the wrist or whatever. I just shoot. Back some thirty years ago when I shot a lot of motorsports, all the photogs hung their cameras from their necks when they weren't on a tripod. But that was in the days before a camera around the neck became evocative of a tourist and therefore very unhip. Paul. On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder, hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive. One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging from two fingers and thumb) with strap wrapped a couple of times around my wrist when within obvious range of photo ops. Two camera setup: main camera in (dangling from) right hand as above, second camera on left shoulder. When I use the second camera, the first just dangles from my wrist. If I am going to be on a bus, subway, in a car etc. then the second camera goes into the backpack. I really liked the grip strap on the Pz-1p but haven't found anything with the same comfortable secure feel that I can use on *ist- D, K10D etc. Back on the Subject topic, I really want the DA*60-250. If it looks like that will keep getting pushed back, then I'll go for one K20D body to replace one of my K10's. But if the lens and body were both available now, I would buy the lens first with no hesitation. stan On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director
On 25/01/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty should take his hat off the plate and put it into some marinade, to make it more tender and flavorful when the time comes. Warning Will Robinson - Pentax entering the 'full-frame field' does not a K1D make! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D feature
Yes. It does the trick - takes an empty frame, analyzes it and shows you a picture map of particles in sensor (image of sensor with lens mount), so you can concentrate cleaning to needed places. Also, camera saves the image to separate directory on memory card, so you can search for dust using a computer screen. Quite handy. BR, Margus Stan Halpin wrote: Release says ...An improved Dust Reduction system that features the new Dust Alert function to pinpoint the exact location of dust particles for the photographer to remove. Seems to me that this would be a great addition to a vacuum cleaner. You wouldn't have to waste all that time pushing the machine around on clean floors, but instead could concentrate on the exact location of dust particles. Do you suppose Hotax (Hoya-Pentax) has thought of merging with Hoover? [Oops - I just realized that then they could have a camera that really sucked. Forget it.] stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML logo stuff
On 25/01/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm having some done up in braille next... Wiseacre ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director
On 25/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm just forgetting now. What did we decide they had to do to give you cotton mouth? Memory doesn't serve these days like it used to so I'll just make this up as I go along. For my money - and it would be my money as I would be first in line to buy one - a K1D on sale this year (eg contemporary stats) would have to have as an absolute minimum: - 36X24 mm sensor with in the region of 20MP - a way better AF system than is included in the current lineup - what I would call 'pro-spec' * - 5 fps at full resolution, RAW - superior build quality, magnesium, carbon-fibre, unobtanium, whatever, plus seals - buffer size allowing at least a dozen RAW files before gagging, 40 LF jpegs - Price point 6000 USD approx That's bare minimum. That's hat eating time. The rest below are personal add-ons that would be great: - aperture control on older lenses - live-view articulated LCD capable of being folded away to protect screen - serious set of accessories such as angle finder, wireless combos - CF as well as SD compatibility - commemorative set of steak knives HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director
I can confirm that they don't mention the knives in the interview... - Mensaje original De: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Enviado: viernes, 25 de enero, 2008 18:23:01 Asunto: Re: Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director On 25/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm just forgetting now. What did we decide they had to do to give you cotton mouth? Memory doesn't serve these days like it used to so I'll just make this up as I go along. For my money - and it would be my money as I would be first in line to buy one - a K1D on sale this year (eg contemporary stats) would have to have as an absolute minimum: - 36X24 mm sensor with in the region of 20MP - a way better AF system than is included in the current lineup - what I would call 'pro-spec' * - 5 fps at full resolution, RAW - superior build quality, magnesium, carbon-fibre, unobtanium, whatever, plus seals - buffer size allowing at least a dozen RAW files before gagging, 40 LF jpegs - Price point 6000 USD approx That's bare minimum. That's hat eating time. The rest below are personal add-ons that would be great: - aperture control on older lenses - live-view articulated LCD capable of being folded away to protect screen - serious set of accessories such as angle finder, wireless combos - CF as well as SD compatibility - commemorative set of steak knives HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Breaking the auction rule
P. J. Alling wrote: I just thought of something, you should send a link to kennyboy, he needs some more compensation for whatever it is he's lacking... It's embarrassing to admit, but I got the link from HIS page... DOH! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: preorder K20D already
I think Pentax marketing renamed the MZ-D/MR-52 as the K1D some time ago and releassed a few photographs through a Japanese or Chinese high tech web site, (part of a viral marketing campaign, yes I know very cutting edge for Pentax but that's what it looks like to me). So the K1 already exists and is a FF 24x36mm digital camera. It just has a 6mp sensor and will never have a general release... Peter Fairweather wrote: Looks more like a rosé drinker's hat to me. Unfortunately it also looks safer and safer as each cropped body comes out. The K1D will not be full frame and I don't hold out much hope for the K0.1D either. Silly name for a camera? Now there's one area that Pentax lead the field in!! Peter On 25/01/2008, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That looks like dessert. In that case I would suggest a nice Sauternes with it. Where's the main meal? I was expecting a Texas Ten Gallon hat. :) On 1/24/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/01/08, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: The probability of a K1D in the works is very real, now that we have seen what the partnership is capable of in a relatively short time frame. What should I serve, white or red? http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare2.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director
Great read, Cotty! Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm just forgetting now. What did we decide they had to do to give you cotton mouth? Memory doesn't serve these days like it used to so I'll just make this up as I go along. For my money - and it would be my money as I would be first in line to buy one - a K1D on sale this year (eg contemporary stats) would have to have as an absolute minimum: - 36X24 mm sensor with in the region of 20MP - a way better AF system than is included in the current lineup - what I would call 'pro-spec' * - 5 fps at full resolution, RAW - superior build quality, magnesium, carbon-fibre, unobtanium, whatever, plus seals - buffer size allowing at least a dozen RAW files before gagging, 40 LF jpegs - Price point 6000 USD approx That's bare minimum. That's hat eating time. The rest below are personal add-ons that would be great: - aperture control on older lenses - live-view articulated LCD capable of being folded away to protect screen - serious set of accessories such as angle finder, wireless combos - CF as well as SD compatibility - commemorative set of steak knives HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Big, Bad Wolf ? (uncut)
Well I like the full image much more than the crop. -- Bruce Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:11:03 AM, you wrote: KW Please check out KW http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html KW Some have requested full image. KW Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska. KW *ist D, 600mm FA, 1.4X-L converter on Gitzo 1548 with Kirk King Cobra head. KW Spent several hours observing a pair of wolves feeding on a Caribou taken KW down in a river bed. KW All comments appreciated. KW Curious as to your thoughts on the subject matter. KW Kenneth Waller KW http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon and Nikon Insulted(?)
He has not replied to my email from last night Dave On Jan 25, 2008 12:18 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received the following from, Kenny Boy: Where was this? I need to fix that, thanks for pointing it out. Canon and Nikon are the best there is. Ken I tried forwarding it to PDML, but system wouldn't allow it..of course. I felt a tiny bit guilty because it was done for those who, apparently, have long standing issues with him. Jack --- Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Davis It's a shame your grammar school did not teach you that the poop is not the same as poop. So the poop on Ken Rockwell's complexion is that it is poop coloured. You old Nikon users need to move with the times. Peter ;) On 25/01/2008, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Rockwell, Have been a long time NIKON user who can't believe what I heard you allegedly wrote. I understand you besmirched Canon and Nikon by making the grammar school statement; ..poop on both Canon and Nikon. I'll not be returning to your site 'til an acceptable explanation is received. Jack Davis Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Breaking the auction rule
On Jan 25, 2008 12:24 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pack mule, hell, half track more likely... Were is Cesar when we really need him Dave Christian wrote: Ok not an auction but a one of a kind item for sale. Since this is a Pentax list I don't think any of you jokers are in the market for this particular lens anyway: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=RetrieveSkuIC=557508Q=O= The Features tab is priceless: calling this lens a 'tele' is like calling King Kong a monkey Included with this lens is a leather slip-on 'lens cap', a fitted aluminum trunk case, and a prodigious measure of ego satisfaction. Weighing in at over 36lbs and an overall length of 33 inches, a sturdy tripod and pan/tilt head is highly recommended. Pack mule not included. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but it's efficient. Why? First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched. Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off the shoulder and wrap it around the wrist or whatever. I just shoot. Back some thirty years ago when I shot a lot of motorsports, all the photogs hung their cameras from their necks when they weren't on a tripod. But that was in the days before a camera around the neck became evocative of a tourist and therefore very unhip. Paul. On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder, hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive. One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging from two fingers and thumb) with strap wrapped a couple of times around my wrist when within obvious range of photo ops. Two camera setup: main camera in (dangling from) right hand as above, second camera on left shoulder. When I use the second camera, the first just dangles from my wrist. If I am going to be on a bus, subway, in a car etc. then the second camera goes into the backpack. I really liked the grip strap on the Pz-1p but haven't found anything with the same comfortable secure feel that I can use on *ist- D, K10D etc. Back on the Subject topic, I really want the DA*60-250. If it looks like that will keep getting pushed back, then I'll go for one K20D body to replace one of my K10's. But if the lens and body were both available now, I would buy the lens first with no hesitation. stan On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon and Nikon Insulted(?)
As you may know, there is another 'big deal' Jack Davis in the photo world. Author, lecturer, Photoshop teacher..etc. with whom I'm frequently confused..if Googled. May be the reason I received an immediate response.(?) Hope you'll share anything interesting you receive from him. Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has not replied to my email from last night Dave On Jan 25, 2008 12:18 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received the following from, Kenny Boy: Where was this? I need to fix that, thanks for pointing it out. Canon and Nikon are the best there is. Ken I tried forwarding it to PDML, but system wouldn't allow it..of course. I felt a tiny bit guilty because it was done for those who, apparently, have long standing issues with him. Jack --- Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Davis It's a shame your grammar school did not teach you that the poop is not the same as poop. So the poop on Ken Rockwell's complexion is that it is poop coloured. You old Nikon users need to move with the times. Peter ;) On 25/01/2008, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Rockwell, Have been a long time NIKON user who can't believe what I heard you allegedly wrote. I understand you besmirched Canon and Nikon by making the grammar school statement; ..poop on both Canon and Nikon. I'll not be returning to your site 'til an acceptable explanation is received. Jack Davis Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
Gotta say I agree in most particulars. I'd love the K20D's imaging system stuffed into a D300-equivalent body (Build, UI, performance. D300 as the standard, not the Oly bodies which IMHO aren't any better than the K10D). The only really 'Pro' small-format SLR Pentax ever made was the LX. But the current market needs a digital equivalent. -Adam On 1/25/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This all points out the most serious lack in Pentax DSLR equipment: a pro-class body. I personally believe that Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* lenses, and even many of the regular series lenses are pro-quality performers. The Pentax K10D/K20D, by comparison, are very well-featured advanced- amateur bodies. I care not one whit about so-called full frame and 10Mpixel is just fine ... I want a body built to the same quality standards as the Olympus E-1. From this point forward, I want - a smooth and quiet shutter - an excellent (not satisfactory ... *EXCELLENT*) viewfinder and focusing screen - top notch dynamic range - excellent responsiveness - at least as good quality on noise and sensitivity as the K10D - Live View. Sequence capture performance is of lower priority to me, but a dozen frame buffer and reasonable FPS are always a bonus. I look at the Olympus E-1 body of 2003 and the E-3 released last October. Both with a new price in the $1800-2000 price category. And the Nikon D300 recently released as well. All meet the pro-class build and performance qualities, in their respective time period, that I would like. Higher end ... it's always possible to go higher end as in the Nikon D3 and Canon 1D series ... but the above three cameras firmly establish a pro-class body in build and features to my mind. Forget about the past and all this FF nonsense. If Olympus can do it with a 4/3 System format, I see no reason why Pentax cannot do it today with the 16x24mm sensors they have. The DA-series lens line is ready. Give me a body to make these excellent lenses serious. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Verbatim SD card problem
Thanks, I just taught that electronically meant some software on the card was causing problems. Unfortunately the shop won't exchange or refund sale items. Feroze Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If the lock switch is in the 'readable' position, the card has a defective switch. Exchange it. G On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:57 AM, Feroze wrote: I recently bought some 1GB Verbatim SD cards, 3 of them work just fine, but with one of the cards, when placed in the camera says card is electronically locked. The camera (K10D) won't read the card so I can't format it. Any ideas? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On 1/25/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This raises an interesting issue. When Michael Reichmann tested the Canon 1Ds-III, he said he suspected that its sensor was out-resolving its lenses. In other words, the lenses didn't have sufficient resolution to really take advantage of the sensor. A little math shows the 24 x 36 sensor in the Canon checking in at 138 pixels per millimeter (linear). The 14 megapixel Pentax sensor (23.4 x 15.6) comes in at about 198 pixels per millimeter! Now granted, the 1Ds-III does have the disadvantage of using Canon lenses g, but I'll be really curious to see images from the K20D taken with some of the Limited series... Remember that lens resolution lessens as you approach the edges. I seriously doubt the 1DsmIII comes close to outresolving its lenses at the centre, but even the 5D had issues with this at the edges. It's likely that the 1DsmIII has such issues with more lenses and further away from the edges. I had the A50/2.8 Macro serviced some time ago and while it was at the shop, my technician friend checked the collimation on his optical bench and did a resolution test. I know it is capable of resolving at least 100+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ON the Pentax *ist DS, I was able to get about 47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] out of it. On the K10D, I was able to get about 62 [EMAIL PROTECTED] out of it. I was also able to get these values out of the DA14 (on center, that's all I was measuring). I am sure that if the K20D has 20% more resolution than the K10D (that is, resolves about 75 [EMAIL PROTECTED]), the A50/2.8 is up to the task and I'm pretty sure the DA14 will be too. At least on center. ;-) Can't speak to the 1Ds-III but, frankly, I was never particularly pleased with the Canon lenses in the range of focal lengths I use by comparison to Nikon, Pentax or Olympus lenses. Canon's lens suite is very biased to the long telephotos, almost a specialization, IMO. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
On 1/25/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification Yes, D300 packaging and shutter performance would take it to the next level. But since the picture is the thing, the K20D will serve quite well for now. Since three-year cycles seem to be about max for DSLR technology these days, I don't know if I need better build than what I'm getting here. I could use 6 fps on occassion, but those occassions are infrequent. That kinda hits the nail on the head. Long life cycles in cameras are a thing of the past. Build quality was important to a greater extent when a camera might see a decade or more of use than it is now, with a life expectancy of a few years being all that is required for the vast majority of cameras sold. To meet a 6 fps burst rate, the shutter would have to be improved tremendously to be reliable, and I expect that the buffer would need to be faster as well. William Robb The shutter should be an off the shelf item, Sony, Nikon, Olympus Canon all offer cameras with similar shutter/fps specs. And the Buffer performance should be fine, it's DDR 2 SDRAM and therefore has lenty of bandwidth. But Pentax may have to go CF just to get good write speeds. SD cards are a LOT slower than UDMA CF cards. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: preorder K20D already
In a message dated 1/25/2008 1:50:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not that much. The K1D photos were discussed about quite bit not that long ago. They were either very good Photoshop creations, or a MZ-D with a factory K1D silk screen job. Pentax has been leaking quite a bit more now than in the past. I think these leaks are intentional, it helps build buzz. I didn't think that the K1D was an actual Pentax plant at the time but I've been leaning towards that now. I expect that the Professional level camera above the K10/K20 in the K mount camera line will be the K2D, if and when it's released. = I sort of agree. I think they probably had a mock up or close to making one, almost a complete design, which they scrapped. The plans were so long ago. And I don't think, at that point, that had anticipated changing sensors. Technology moves fast. Marnie aka Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have a vivid imagination, Peter. -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Pentax marketing renamed the MZ-D/MR-52 as the K1D some time ago and releassed a few photographs through a Japanese or Chinese high tech web site, (part of a viral marketing campaign, yes I know very cutting edge for Pentax but that's what it looks like to me). So the K1 already exists and is a FF 24x36mm digital camera. It just has a 6mp sensor and will never have a general release... - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
On Jan 25, 2008 8:16 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:01 AM 26/01/2008, Bruce Dayton wrote: I think I am ready to give up. These two were finally declined after sitting there waiting for about 3 weeks - which means the final judges declined after peer approval. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/elephantseals_0003a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0739-07b.htm I'm very surprised the second one didn't make it through. That bar just keeps getting higher higher. Is the bar getting higher or the snap shooters getting pissed off at the really good photos. Dave Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
The bar is getting higher. On Jan 25, 2008, at 8:25 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 8:16 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:01 AM 26/01/2008, Bruce Dayton wrote: I think I am ready to give up. These two were finally declined after sitting there waiting for about 3 weeks - which means the final judges declined after peer approval. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/elephantseals_0003a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0739-07b.htm I'm very surprised the second one didn't make it through. That bar just keeps getting higher higher. Is the bar getting higher or the snap shooters getting pissed off at the really good photos. Dave Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Kenny boy style
On Jan 25, 2008 7:32 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 2:52 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took the whoop-de-do as negative. Another way of saying; so what. I probably have missed it, but I didn't see the same phrase when I looked a few minutes ago. Yes thats what sent me over the edge Jack. I just looked again and its still there, I emailed his highness last night about the comment, but no reply yet I think lowley of him, but this really ticks me off Does he really tick you off? I could care less. It's just one guy who has some interesting content hidden in a lot of noise. I'm a rank amateur but I would look at the work a photographer has produced to get an idea of how valuable the opinions and comments expressed by the individual are to me. Kenny doesn't have much, does he? Maybe if I was completely color blind I could appreciate his photography :). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focusing quirk
In truth, I made quite a few 16 x 20 prints with BW film, because my darkroom is set up for that. With digital I can only print up to 13 x 19. MF 16 x 20s are nice, but with digital 13 x 19x are much easier and much less expensive. I need Bill's big paper printer. Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 6:52 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: K10D focusing quirk Hello William, I think there is another factor involved as well. When shooting film, the cost and time to do serious testing was something to take into account. Most of us just accepted the cameras as they came without really putting them through their paces. With digital, it is quite easy, quick and cheap to blow things up to pixel level and really scrutinize - the imperfections start to show up more. How often did we make 11X14 or larger prints to check out image quality and things like focus? For me, it was every time I made a print. The big ones just made the warts more obvious. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: preorder K20D already
I think that if there is a pro-level camera, it will still be a K1D. Why skip a number that never existed? I also think that it will be the same size sensor as the current lineup, More fps, better build, more features. Same sensor dimensions. That's my call, and I'm sticking to it:-). Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 8:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/25/2008 1:50:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not that much. The K1D photos were discussed about quite bit not that long ago. They were either very good Photoshop creations, or a MZ-D with a factory K1D silk screen job. Pentax has been leaking quite a bit more now than in the past. I think these leaks are intentional, it helps build buzz. I didn't think that the K1D was an actual Pentax plant at the time but I've been leaning towards that now. I expect that the Professional level camera above the K10/K20 in the K mount camera line will be the K2D, if and when it's released. = I sort of agree. I think they probably had a mock up or close to making one, almost a complete design, which they scrapped. The plans were so long ago. And I don't think, at that point, that had anticipated changing sensors. Technology moves fast. Marnie aka Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have a vivid imagination, Peter. -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Pentax marketing renamed the MZ-D/MR-52 as the K1D some time ago and releassed a few photographs through a Japanese or Chinese high tech web site, (part of a viral marketing campaign, yes I know very cutting edge for Pentax but that's what it looks like to me). So the K1 already exists and is a FF 24x36mm digital camera. It just has a 6mp sensor and will never have a general release... - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
The second one probably should have made it. The lighthouse, on the other hand, is a great shot but standard fare. I gave up a long time ago. If it were my gallery I might want to limit its size. Thus, maybe only something way over the top can make it now. Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I think I am ready to give up. These two were finally declined after sitting there waiting for about 3 weeks - which means the final judges declined after peer approval. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/elephantseals_0003a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0739-07b.htm Oh well. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon
In a message dated 1/25/2008 10:45:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great subject good composition. On my monitor it looked very subdued (low contrast darker than the shadows might indicate). I opened it up in CS2 saw the histogram was very biased to the left. Looking @ my new PDML mouse pad for directions, VBG decreased the white level to 194 viola, a much improved exposure IMHO. ;+} Anyway, I added all that because I assume it happens to others too. I've gotten to the point in those situations where I'll just look around, enjoy what's there in most cases not take an image. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f === Thanks, Ken, I may play with levels then. I haven't really gotten into adjusting the white point yet, and it's something I need to practice more. This might be a good one to start with. Yes, sometimes just being here and there is better than taking pictures of there there. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon
In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:48:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, thanks for the Kenny Boy warning. It brings home the oft heard statement; be careful what you ask for, because. Love the monochrome look of this. Did you try one in which you isolated the dog in the bottom of the frame and shot only the adobe? It would, possibly, blocked out the rear hillside and further simplified the scene. Jack :) I have scenes where I shot only the adobe, none I feel good enough for a PESO, really. I'll probably do a Taos or SW GESO someday. I keep going through them to see if there is something promising I've missed. Not really. Heh. Thanks for looking, Jack. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon
Thanks, Charles. The sky is a bit dark, it was a very blue sky, but sometimes digital seems to darken blue skies. I might lighten it a tad, if I ever print it. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) == On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of like this, the colors, and the dog, implying how warm/hot the day was. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/dogday.htm Love the colors. Seems a bit dark/dim for a sunny-day photo, but perhaps there wasn't anything in the field of view that was truly bright/white. I know you wanted to retain the wood, but it also seems to add a heck of a lot of clutter to the shot. However - if I'm not examining the image for details, the pleasant mix of brown/blue colors washes over me and I like the mood. -Charles - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon
In a message dated 1/25/2008 9:52:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, That's an interesting shot, but I wish for a stronger center of interest. I agree with you on shooting. My best shots come after I go and just sit in a place. Give yourself 5-10 minutes of quiet time. Regards, Bob S. Thanks for looking, Bob. I agree. Yes, I think that helps. Not always, but usually. Hard to remember to do that when one is traveling and trying to meet a schedule, though. Also, for me, if I can remember to do it, sort of taking a walk through of an area without shooting first, just absorbing and it seeing where the shots might be. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
I'm surprised that Pigeon Point wasn't accepted. It's an exceptional shot. There have been pano shot on which I've voted no because that was identified in the beginning as reason for them to be declined. I took that as part of the voting instructions. There were some that were only slightly pano cropped that I didn't consider severe enough. I'm just offering this as a possible reason for the second shot being declined. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I am ready to give up. These two were finally declined after sitting there waiting for about 3 weeks - which means the final judges declined after peer approval. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/elephantseals_0003a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0739-07b.htm Oh well. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon II
Marnie: I like this one better, but I like the colors mood of both shots. Interesting to see these shots. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon II I was inhibited about shooting at Taos, because I sort of felt I was in someone's living room. When I went as a kid with my parents, there were still 1,500 people living in the Pueblo and areas you could not shoot. When I went in 2006 I asked at the gate and he said about only 100 were living there. Well, I doubt many were really living there. They were selling there, little signs or doors left open and you wander in and see what they had: jewelry, music, food, some pottery, but mainly jewelry. They all moved out in the mid to late sixties to town, the lure of electricity and indoor plumbing was too great. I talked for a while to one guy selling Native American music, and he lived there full time with lanterns. But he may be the only one. I suspect to be considered a resident and sell within the Pueblo you have to stay there several nights a week. But the living room impression didn't wear off until I talked to more people. In response, to comments, here is the dog closer. I didn't want to get too close, because he had been walking around earlier and I thought I might make him get up and move. I felt the bottom of the post so near the bottom of the frame was undesirable. I also always felt it needed a crop, but not quite sure where. And the closer you get to the buildings the more you can see the little signs. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/dogday2.htm I don't think this is better than the other shot, but some may like it better. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
Bruce: I'm really sorry your photos didn't make it. They are winners, and I would have bet they'd be accepted into the Pentax Gallery. Better luck next time. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: Pentax Gallery I think I am ready to give up. These two were finally declined after sitting there waiting for about 3 weeks - which means the final judges declined after peer approval. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/elephantseals_0003a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0739-07b.htm Oh well. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why can't we have this wonderful winter light...
Hi Ralf: Another very interesting shot. I like the light a lot, and I like the telephone wires. The photograph clearly evokes that smokey industrial environment juxtaposed with residential living very well. A great photograph, but a sad environment to live in. The yellow pencil sign: sortie d'ecole? It translates as something school, right or no? If so, what kind of school? Sortie means military, right, but I can't imagine that they'd use a big yellow pencil for a sign denoting military school. Doesn't quite fit. Can Sortie d'ecole also mean girls school? Ugh, my French is so so so bad. Anyway, I love the sign as well. It's cold here in Chicago too. I think the best we can do is have a cognac by the fire, and dream of the warm weather to come. Bon Soir, Christine - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mailingliste pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: PESO: Why can't we have this wonderful winter light... ...in summer? Vent faible à modéré... they said on the radio. The tripod's legs were whistling in a biting cold wind. :-/ I've driven past this spot thousands of times. Never noticed the view. Just had to stop and take a few pictures. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/1132257068 As always, your comments and suggestions... :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focusing quirk--more testing necessary
I've had many nice photos from the K10D/16-45 combo. So, this evening, I used Lightroom to show me all of my photos taken with the K10D at f/4. Of the several hundred such photos, there were maybe 50 or so that could be informative on focus accuracy (e.g., not scenics, and not a receding row of items without a clear single photo point). Of them, none exhibited back-focus except the Loving Chimps shot and the test pics I took the other night. So, I'm going to (1) not worry, (2) do a few formal tests with the target I just printed out, and (3) then avoid further pixel-peeping. Rick Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
The same shutter was in the PZ-1p, IIRC... --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't be that much pricier, the Nikon F90x had a 4.5fps 1/8000 shutter with 1/250 sync and retailed under $1k up until 2002 or so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax presentation - K20D feature (serious comment this time)
Quoth they: Like the majority of GPS-based devices, the Photo Finder may struggle to create location data when surrounded by tall buildings, in narrows streets, indoors or when underground. In other words, in the places where I take at least half my photos... Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might be interesting to you: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08011601photofinder.asp Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax presentation - K20D feature (serious comment this time)
The PZ-1 had it. I used it twice. Haven't missed it on the PZ-1p, ist D, or K10D. Rick --- Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It also have another very neat feature. Intervalometer. How cool is that? http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon II
In a message dated 1/25/2008 10:49:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like this one better. Nice work. Paul == Okay, Paul. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I felt the bottom of the post so near the bottom of the frame was undesirable. I also always felt it needed a crop, but not quite sure where. And the closer you get to the buildings the more you can see the little signs. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/dogday2.htm I don't think this is better than the other shot, but some may like it better. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Kenny boy style
I wonder if he reads the PDML and as a result, is maladjusted enough to publicly demean a camera system out of frustration at the criticism he sees. Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 2:52 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took the whoop-de-do as negative. Another way of saying; so what. I probably have missed it, but I didn't see the same phrase when I looked a few minutes ago. Yes thats what sent me over the edge Jack. I just looked again and its still there, I emailed his highness last night about the comment, but no reply yet I think lowley of him, but this really ticks me off Dave Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 12:15 PM, Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be rubbish but on this occasion he acknowledges his source which is a direct paste from Pentax. Hence the rubbish?? It was his Woop de doo comment Peter. To me its better not to say anything then. Dave Peter On 25/01/2008, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 1:47 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: I was curious to see what KR had to say. Direct quote lifted from his site. I'd say he's over welmed. NEW: New Pentax Cameras and Lenses. Pentax just announced the K20D and K200D, as well as five new lenses. The K20D is 14.6 MP, whoop-de-doo. I'll have the poop on the new Canons and Nikons within a week.: I had zero respect before, now even less. What a tool Dave For more toolishness, RiceWhine's K20D post takes the cake http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2008/01/k20d-specifications-leaked.html I have been able to successfully filter out all these junks and reported only the correct information about the two new bodies, here. :-) Ok, he wins.:-) Dave Don't you mean he whines... hahahaha D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pittsburgh Photo/poetyry book available
Mark: I sympathize, but publishers are notorious for dropping the ball on promotion and advertising. All kinds of authors of books complain about this. Sorry, you had to experience it. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Pittsburgh Photo/poetyry book available Christine Aguila wrote: Mark: Good luck with the book. Hope it sells well. Cheers, Thanks Christine, but given the way the publishers have dropped the ball on promotion, it's a pretty safe bet that this is only going to sell to friends and families of the artists who contributed to the project. If I were on the Allegheny Conference on Community Development (they put up money for it) I'd be furious. It didn't cost me a penny so I'm just disgusted :) http://www.robertstech.com/alongtheserivers.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
On 1/25/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification The shutter should be an off the shelf item, OTS or not, it's still going to be a beefed up and consequently pricier component. William Robb Shouldn't be that much pricier, the Nikon F90x had a 4.5fps 1/8000 shutter with 1/250 sync and retailed under $1k up until 2002 or so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Breaking the auction rule
I think this would work: http://members.aol.com/WW2JeepMBGPW/Photos/M31Pedestal30calJeep.jpg CW - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Breaking the auction rule Pack mule, hell, half track more likely... Christian wrote: Ok not an auction but a one of a kind item for sale. Since this is a Pentax list I don't think any of you jokers are in the market for this particular lens anyway: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=RetrieveSkuIC=557508Q=O= The Features tab is priceless: calling this lens a 'tele' is like calling King Kong a monkey Included with this lens is a leather slip-on 'lens cap', a fitted aluminum trunk case, and a prodigious measure of ego satisfaction. Weighing in at over 36lbs and an overall length of 33 inches, a sturdy tripod and pan/tilt head is highly recommended. Pack mule not included. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 12:00 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
First Pentax Gallery accepted photo
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/johncelio I finally got around to submitting three photos yesterday, though I've been a member of the gallery since last summer. After hearing how sometimes the Gallery folks take a long time to approve or deny photos, I was suprised they got to me so quickly. I'm also a little surprised they picked the image they did. Any thoughts on it? Thanks, John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First Pentax Gallery accepted photo
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:15:18 -0800 John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also a little surprised they picked the image they did. Any thoughts on it? Not what I have come to expect of them at all. interesting shot but still ? Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
International Warranty Card (Indonesia)?
I checked the list archive and I saw some discussion about International Warranty cards but none addressed my case. I am hoping someone else might have dealt with something like this at one point in time. 1) I am in the USA and I received a lens from Indonesia. The purchaser there said typically they do not get receipts. He is working on getting the receipt. 2) The Pentax Worldwide Service Network sheet in the box the lens came with says: To obtain the International Warranty card, consult with the dealer or supplier from where you originally purchased the product in the following list. 3) It also mentions service centers marked with an O where you originally purchased the lens can also issue the warranty card. But the service center for Indonesia has no O. So no international warranty? Or should all dealers be able to issue international warranty cards? -- Cymen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Kenny boy style
On Jan 25, 2008 2:52 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took the whoop-de-do as negative. Another way of saying; so what. I probably have missed it, but I didn't see the same phrase when I looked a few minutes ago. Yes thats what sent me over the edge Jack. I just looked again and its still there, I emailed his highness last night about the comment, but no reply yet I think lowley of him, but this really ticks me off Dave Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 12:15 PM, Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be rubbish but on this occasion he acknowledges his source which is a direct paste from Pentax. Hence the rubbish?? It was his Woop de doo comment Peter. To me its better not to say anything then. Dave Peter On 25/01/2008, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 1:47 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: I was curious to see what KR had to say. Direct quote lifted from his site. I'd say he's over welmed. NEW: New Pentax Cameras and Lenses. Pentax just announced the K20D and K200D, as well as five new lenses. The K20D is 14.6 MP, whoop-de-doo. I'll have the poop on the new Canons and Nikons within a week.: I had zero respect before, now even less. What a tool Dave For more toolishness, RiceWhine's K20D post takes the cake http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2008/01/k20d-specifications-leaked.html I have been able to successfully filter out all these junks and reported only the correct information about the two new bodies, here. :-) Ok, he wins.:-) Dave Don't you mean he whines... hahahaha D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Gallery
I gave up last month. Those are great shots BTW Dave On Jan 25, 2008 8:01 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I am ready to give up. These two were finally declined after sitting there waiting for about 3 weeks - which means the final judges declined after peer approval. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/elephantseals_0003a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0739-07b.htm Oh well. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Why can't we have this wonderful winter light...
The low sweet light adds a very nice sky as well as subtle contrasts. A very full frame packed with interest. Jack --- Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...in summer? Vent faible à modéré... they said on the radio. The tripod's legs were whistling in a biting cold wind. :-/ I've driven past this spot thousands of times. Never noticed the view. Just had to stop and take a few pictures. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/1132257068 As always, your comments and suggestions... :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification The shutter should be an off the shelf item, OTS or not, it's still going to be a beefed up and consequently pricier component. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Why can't we have this wonderful winter light...
Fabulous photo. But I fear for your lungs. Suggestions? Move! Seriously, your work is fantastic, but that place... Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: ...in summer? Vent faible à modéré... they said on the radio. The tripod's legs were whistling in a biting cold wind. :-/ I've driven past this spot thousands of times. Never noticed the view. Just had to stop and take a few pictures. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/1132257068 As always, your comments and suggestions... :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Why can't we have this wonderful winter light...
In a message dated 1/25/2008 3:59:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...in summer? Vent faible à modéré... they said on the radio. The tripod's legs were whistling in a biting cold wind. :-/ I've driven past this spot thousands of times. Never noticed the view. Just had to stop and take a few pictures. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/1132257068 As always, your comments and suggestions... :-) Ralf === I like the view, think it has potential. I don't like the lighting. Think it ruins it -- not enough punch. Why don't you try one of your fab night or semi-night shots there right after the sun goes down? Or early morning? When the lights are still on? Though the telephone wires may always be a problem. HTH, Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Gallery
I think I am ready to give up. These two were finally declined after sitting there waiting for about 3 weeks - which means the final judges declined after peer approval. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/elephantseals_0003a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0739-07b.htm Oh well. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cotty's Specification Yes, D300 packaging and shutter performance would take it to the next level. But since the picture is the thing, the K20D will serve quite well for now. Since three-year cycles seem to be about max for DSLR technology these days, I don't know if I need better build than what I'm getting here. I could use 6 fps on occassion, but those occassions are infrequent. That kinda hits the nail on the head. Long life cycles in cameras are a thing of the past. Build quality was important to a greater extent when a camera might see a decade or more of use than it is now, with a life expectancy of a few years being all that is required for the vast majority of cameras sold. To meet a 6 fps burst rate, the shutter would have to be improved tremendously to be reliable, and I expect that the buffer would need to be faster as well. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focusing quirk
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: K10D focusing quirk Hello William, I think there is another factor involved as well. When shooting film, the cost and time to do serious testing was something to take into account. Most of us just accepted the cameras as they came without really putting them through their paces. With digital, it is quite easy, quick and cheap to blow things up to pixel level and really scrutinize - the imperfections start to show up more. How often did we make 11X14 or larger prints to check out image quality and things like focus? For me, it was every time I made a print. The big ones just made the warts more obvious. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Why can't we have this wonderful winter light...
...in summer? Vent faible à modéré... they said on the radio. The tripod's legs were whistling in a biting cold wind. :-/ I've driven past this spot thousands of times. Never noticed the view. Just had to stop and take a few pictures. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/1132257068 As always, your comments and suggestions... :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax presentation - K20D feature (serious comment this time)
Stan - Downloader Pro by Breeze Systems will integrate the GPS track log information to your EXIF data as it downloads the images. All you need to do is download the track log from your GPS and tell Downloader Pro where to find it. The key to accuracy, of course, is to be sure the camera clock matches the GPS clock. Although the Sony GPS is shown on the Downloader web page, most any GPS will generate a track log that is compatible. See this page for a little more information... http://www.breezesys.com/Downloader/whatsnew2.htm If you'd like more specific information, let me know off-list and I can send you the Downloader help file on Geo-tagging. -p Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks Mark. Given that Derby and you had produced two possible solutions, I just did a Google to see if there might be others out there. Some interesting finds: 1. Quote from a blog: I happen to have a cheap GPS I got off Ebay, so as I took photos around the park, I also took a photo of the position I was at. [comment -I.'m looking for something more automated...] 2. http://www.prairie.mb.ca/product/pg-photolink.php [Software that takes your GPS data and links to photos using the same time-stamp notion. Quote: Once your back at the office, GPS- Photo Lind automatically downloads track log or waypoint information from the GPS and copies digital photos directly from the camera or a memory card. Follow the built-in wizards to generate a web page by using your own template or the default template supplied. YOU will create a map and pictures in a web page including: ... ] 3. http://oregonstate.edu/~earlyj/gpsphotolinker/ [Comment - looks like THE solution. Software that works on a Mac, merges data from a GPS track into the photo metadata, said to work with PEF and DNG (and a variety of other formats), is oriented to putting data into metadata rather than, as with most other solutions, being oriented to putting pins on GoogleEarth maps. Still not the seamless solution like the first one Derby found, but does have the advantage of working from a general purpose GPS rather than a purpose- built photo gadget. ] Now I just need a good cheap GPS... stan On Jan 25, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: K10D (nor K100, K20, K200) not on the list of cameras supported. A long list of Pentax PS digitals, but none of the DSLR's. And it seems to assume jpeg. Have a look at this: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06080202sonygpscs1.asp It also seems to assume JPEG, but it's designed to to its tagging after the fact, when you've downloaded your photos to a computer, so you ought to be able to shoot Raw, convert and then tag. The blurb seems to indicate that it only works with Sony cameras, but that seems unlikely with JPEGs so I'd investigate it further if I were you. Worth a look, anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax presentation - K20D feature (serious comment this time)
This might be interesting to you: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08011601photofinder.asp On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks Mark. Given that Derby and you had produced two possible solutions, I just did a Google to see if there might be others out there. Some interesting finds: 1. Quote from a blog: I happen to have a cheap GPS I got off Ebay, so as I took photos around the park, I also took a photo of the position I was at. [comment -I.'m looking for something more automated...] 2. http://www.prairie.mb.ca/product/pg-photolink.php [Software that takes your GPS data and links to photos using the same time-stamp notion. Quote: Once your back at the office, GPS- Photo Lind automatically downloads track log or waypoint information from the GPS and copies digital photos directly from the camera or a memory card. Follow the built-in wizards to generate a web page by using your own template or the default template supplied. YOU will create a map and pictures in a web page including: ... ] 3. http://oregonstate.edu/~earlyj/gpsphotolinker/ [Comment - looks like THE solution. Software that works on a Mac, merges data from a GPS track into the photo metadata, said to work with PEF and DNG (and a variety of other formats), is oriented to putting data into metadata rather than, as with most other solutions, being oriented to putting pins on GoogleEarth maps. Still not the seamless solution like the first one Derby found, but does have the advantage of working from a general purpose GPS rather than a purpose- built photo gadget. ] Now I just need a good cheap GPS... stan On Jan 25, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: K10D (nor K100, K20, K200) not on the list of cameras supported. A long list of Pentax PS digitals, but none of the DSLR's. And it seems to assume jpeg. Have a look at this: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06080202sonygpscs1.asp It also seems to assume JPEG, but it's designed to to its tagging after the fact, when you've downloaded your photos to a computer, so you ought to be able to shoot Raw, convert and then tag. The blurb seems to indicate that it only works with Sony cameras, but that seems unlikely with JPEGs so I'd investigate it further if I were you. Worth a look, anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax presentation - K20D feature (serious comment this time)
Thanks Mark. Given that Derby and you had produced two possible solutions, I just did a Google to see if there might be others out there. Some interesting finds: 1. Quote from a blog: I happen to have a cheap GPS I got off Ebay, so as I took photos around the park, I also took a photo of the position I was at. [comment -I.'m looking for something more automated...] 2. http://www.prairie.mb.ca/product/pg-photolink.php [Software that takes your GPS data and links to photos using the same time-stamp notion. Quote: Once your back at the office, GPS- Photo Lind automatically downloads track log or waypoint information from the GPS and copies digital photos directly from the camera or a memory card. Follow the built-in wizards to generate a web page by using your own template or the default template supplied. YOU will create a map and pictures in a web page including: ... ] 3. http://oregonstate.edu/~earlyj/gpsphotolinker/ [Comment - looks like THE solution. Software that works on a Mac, merges data from a GPS track into the photo metadata, said to work with PEF and DNG (and a variety of other formats), is oriented to putting data into metadata rather than, as with most other solutions, being oriented to putting pins on GoogleEarth maps. Still not the seamless solution like the first one Derby found, but does have the advantage of working from a general purpose GPS rather than a purpose- built photo gadget. ] Now I just need a good cheap GPS... stan On Jan 25, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: K10D (nor K100, K20, K200) not on the list of cameras supported. A long list of Pentax PS digitals, but none of the DSLR's. And it seems to assume jpeg. Have a look at this: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06080202sonygpscs1.asp It also seems to assume JPEG, but it's designed to to its tagging after the fact, when you've downloaded your photos to a computer, so you ought to be able to shoot Raw, convert and then tag. The blurb seems to indicate that it only works with Sony cameras, but that seems unlikely with JPEGs so I'd investigate it further if I were you. Worth a look, anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Ford not the bad guy as reported
Regarding Ford preventing a calendar from being published The truth - http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42820 Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:41:50 +0100 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pittsburgh Photo/poetyry book available
Christine Aguila wrote: Mark: Good luck with the book. Hope it sells well. Cheers, Thanks Christine, but given the way the publishers have dropped the ball on promotion, it's a pretty safe bet that this is only going to sell to friends and families of the artists who contributed to the project. If I were on the Allegheny Conference on Community Development (they put up money for it) I'd be furious. It didn't cost me a penny so I'm just disgusted :) http://www.robertstech.com/alongtheserivers.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
On 1/25/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* lenses, and even many of the regular series lenses are pro-quality performers. This raises an interesting issue. When Michael Reichmann tested the Canon 1Ds-III, he said he suspected that its sensor was out-resolving its lenses. In other words, the lenses didn't have sufficient resolution to really take advantage of the sensor. A little math shows the 24 x 36 sensor in the Canon checking in at 138 pixels per millimeter (linear). The 14 megapixel Pentax sensor (23.4 x 15.6) comes in at about 198 pixels per millimeter! Now granted, the 1Ds-III does have the disadvantage of using Canon lenses g, but I'll be really curious to see images from the K20D taken with some of the Limited series... Remember that lens resolution lessens as you approach the edges. I seriously doubt the 1DsmIII comes close to outresolving its lenses at the centre, but even the 5D had issues with this at the edges. It's likely that the 1DsmIII has such issues with more lenses and further away from the edges. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
No. I guess you could just buy a simple wrist strap, but I use a homemade combination of a Velcro watchband and a carabiner key chain. I can just clip it on and off and it's very sturdy. I even tried a simple looped boot shoelace g, It worked just fine and the K10D just dangled in the air when I let it go. I just couldn't bring myself to trust it. There must be many ways to rig a simple safety line. In practice, I have the camera with the grip and my camera bag (Domke F2) on my shoulder. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/25/08 4:00 PM Does it come with the auxiliary wrist strap? I didn't see any mention of that at BH. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the hand grip I have. I just couldn't remember the name while at school. It fits my hand well and I don't have to constantly grip the camera. Essentially, I have this grip and an auxiliary wrist strap in case it slips off my hand. I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly but safely. g Thanks Godders. I'm going to order that grip and give it a try. I might like it for walkarounds if not for other work. We'll see. Thirty-year habits are hard to break. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]~!B*+R^ The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:479a4ed5212475210364242! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
-- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly ... MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* lenses, and even many of the regular series lenses are pro-quality performers. This raises an interesting issue. When Michael Reichmann tested the Canon 1Ds-III, he said he suspected that its sensor was out-resolving its lenses. In other words, the lenses didn't have sufficient resolution to really take advantage of the sensor. A little math shows the 24 x 36 sensor in the Canon checking in at 138 pixels per millimeter (linear). The 14 megapixel Pentax sensor (23.4 x 15.6) comes in at about 198 pixels per millimeter! Now granted, the 1Ds-III does have the disadvantage of using Canon lenses g, but I'll be really curious to see images from the K20D taken with some of the Limited series... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
Yes, D300 packaging and shutter performance would take it to the next level. But since the picture is the thing, the K20D will serve quite well for now. Since three-year cycles seem to be about max for DSLR technology these days, I don't know if I need better build than what I'm getting herre. I could use 6 fps on occassion, but those occassions are infrequent. Paul -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gotta say I agree in most particulars. I'd love the K20D's imaging system stuffed into a D300-equivalent body (Build, UI, performance. D300 as the standard, not the Oly bodies which IMHO aren't any better than the K10D). The only really 'Pro' small-format SLR Pentax ever made was the LX. But the current market needs a digital equivalent. -Adam On 1/25/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This all points out the most serious lack in Pentax DSLR equipment: a pro-class body. I personally believe that Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* lenses, and even many of the regular series lenses are pro-quality performers. The Pentax K10D/K20D, by comparison, are very well-featured advanced- amateur bodies. I care not one whit about so-called full frame and 10Mpixel is just fine ... I want a body built to the same quality standards as the Olympus E-1. From this point forward, I want - a smooth and quiet shutter - an excellent (not satisfactory ... *EXCELLENT*) viewfinder and focusing screen - top notch dynamic range - excellent responsiveness - at least as good quality on noise and sensitivity as the K10D - Live View. Sequence capture performance is of lower priority to me, but a dozen frame buffer and reasonable FPS are always a bonus. I look at the Olympus E-1 body of 2003 and the E-3 released last October. Both with a new price in the $1800-2000 price category. And the Nikon D300 recently released as well. All meet the pro-class build and performance qualities, in their respective time period, that I would like. Higher end ... it's always possible to go higher end as in the Nikon D3 and Canon 1D series ... but the above three cameras firmly establish a pro-class body in build and features to my mind. Forget about the past and all this FF nonsense. If Olympus can do it with a 4/3 System format, I see no reason why Pentax cannot do it today with the 16x24mm sensors they have. The DA-series lens line is ready. Give me a body to make these excellent lenses serious. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
At least as good quality on noise and sensitivity as the K10D? it seems the K20D has already surpassed tha by a wide margin. I've held an E-1. Build quality is just about on a par with K10D. Maybe a bit more in materials here and there. Is it even sealed? Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] This all points out the most serious lack in Pentax DSLR equipment: a pro-class body. I personally believe that Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* lenses, and even many of the regular series lenses are pro-quality performers. The Pentax K10D/K20D, by comparison, are very well-featured advanced- amateur bodies. I care not one whit about so-called full frame and 10Mpixel is just fine ... I want a body built to the same quality standards as the Olympus E-1. From this point forward, I want - a smooth and quiet shutter - an excellent (not satisfactory ... *EXCELLENT*) viewfinder and focusing screen - top notch dynamic range - excellent responsiveness - at least as good quality on noise and sensitivity as the K10D - Live View. Sequence capture performance is of lower priority to me, but a dozen frame buffer and reasonable FPS are always a bonus. I look at the Olympus E-1 body of 2003 and the E-3 released last October. Both with a new price in the $1800-2000 price category. And the Nikon D300 recently released as well. All meet the pro-class build and performance qualities, in their respective time period, that I would like. Higher end ... it's always possible to go higher end as in the Nikon D3 and Canon 1D series ... but the above three cameras firmly establish a pro-class body in build and features to my mind. Forget about the past and all this FF nonsense. If Olympus can do it with a 4/3 System format, I see no reason why Pentax cannot do it today with the 16x24mm sensors they have. The DA-series lens line is ready. Give me a body to make these excellent lenses serious. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. Here's a picture of my Canon 10D fitted with it from 2003: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/10DwHakubaGrip.jpg I don't usually use a neckstrap. For hands free capabilities with a hand-strap, I use a modest size shoulder bag, strap across my shoulder and chest bandolier style, where I put the camera when I'm not actively taking pictures. I put a karabiner on the bag's strap so I can clip the camera to it by the hand strap when I'm juggling lenses during changing. Some cameras work well with a neck strap, like the Olympus E-1, because of the way the strap mounting lugs are made. But most modern cameras, with simply slot lugs ... I get very annoyed with the straps most of the time. The only SLR camera I've owned since 2000 with these slot lugs that actually did it RIGHT was the Canon EOS IX. The slot lugs pointed the strap *back* from the body so that the camera hung nose-down when on your shoulder or around your neck ... the sensible way they OUGHT to hang with a modern, bulky heavy lens on the front, rather than sticking the front element out in front of you like an erect penis or twisting up the strap to nose it down. That camera also hung under my shoulder and arm just right because of the strap lugs. Godfrey On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it can slip off the hand, can it not? I'm not sold on hand grips. When hung around the neck, I'm still holding the camera, so it doesn't bang on anything. If I'm in the clear of any objects, I sometimes just let it hang, but not all that often. I went to Amazon thinking I might want to by this strap and give it a try. Then I read one of the customer reviews: In a world of copies and imitations, this is just another piece of junk from the 3rd world. It fits poorly. You'd be better served by going to PetsMart for a nylon dog collar to thread through your camera's frame mount. Alternatively, spend the $ and buy an original from your camera's manufacturer. I sent mine back. H. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use one like this: http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/ B000OMR00C -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K20D Kenny boy style
On Jan 25, 2008 10:13 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a tool If I were a hammer I'd be offended right about now. I don't think so. If you were a hammer you'd hammer in the morning, you'd hammer in the evening, all over this land. You'd hammer out danger, you'd hammer out a warning, you'd hammer out love between my brothers and my sister* all over this land. But I don't think you'd be offended right about now. Bob *Even though they're not from the Ozarks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Op Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:41:50 +0100 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty's Specification
This all points out the most serious lack in Pentax DSLR equipment: a pro-class body. I personally believe that Pentax has long made the mistake of producing better lenses than bodies. The FA and DA Limited primes, the A*, FA* and DA* lenses, and even many of the regular series lenses are pro-quality performers. The Pentax K10D/K20D, by comparison, are very well-featured advanced- amateur bodies. I care not one whit about so-called full frame and 10Mpixel is just fine ... I want a body built to the same quality standards as the Olympus E-1. From this point forward, I want - a smooth and quiet shutter - an excellent (not satisfactory ... *EXCELLENT*) viewfinder and focusing screen - top notch dynamic range - excellent responsiveness - at least as good quality on noise and sensitivity as the K10D - Live View. Sequence capture performance is of lower priority to me, but a dozen frame buffer and reasonable FPS are always a bonus. I look at the Olympus E-1 body of 2003 and the E-3 released last October. Both with a new price in the $1800-2000 price category. And the Nikon D300 recently released as well. All meet the pro-class build and performance qualities, in their respective time period, that I would like. Higher end ... it's always possible to go higher end as in the Nikon D3 and Canon 1D series ... but the above three cameras firmly establish a pro-class body in build and features to my mind. Forget about the past and all this FF nonsense. If Olympus can do it with a 4/3 System format, I see no reason why Pentax cannot do it today with the 16x24mm sensors they have. The DA-series lens line is ready. Give me a body to make these excellent lenses serious. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warning Will Robinson - Pentax entering the 'full-frame field' does not a K1D make! Okay, remind me (us), Cotty. What K1D conditions had to be met so you would eat your hat? I'd say full-frame at 12 megapixels or more with AF and shutter system upgraded from the K10D/20D (plus an upgrade in build quality and the usual weather sealing, etc.) Street price between $2000 - $3000 IOW, something in the Nikon D3 range but in a lower price bracket. A reasonable goal in the not-too-distant future. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interview with Pentax Europe marketing director
Mark Roberts wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warning Will Robinson - Pentax entering the 'full-frame field' does not a K1D make! Okay, remind me (us), Cotty. What K1D conditions had to be met so you would eat your hat? I'd say full-frame at 12 megapixels or more with AF and shutter system upgraded from the K10D/20D (plus an upgrade in build quality and the usual weather sealing, etc.) Street price between $2000 - $3000 IOW, something in the Nikon D3 range but in a lower price bracket. A reasonable goal in the not-too-distant future. Are you willing to put your hiking boots on a plate to back that up? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: preorder K20D already
Hello Steve, What K10D campaign? So yes, they are different in that this time there seems to be real marketing. -- Bruce Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:16:23 AM, you wrote: SD The camera had to be in the pipeline a while because of the new sensor. SD The marketing could be a more recent change though. I can't remember SD but was the K10D early campaign different than the one for the K20D? P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/24/2008 1:49 PM SD I think this was all planned before the Hoya merger. It began with the SD Samsung partnership. I don't know if the K20 is the exact camera SD Pentax SD had planned but it's got to be pretty close. SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:24:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amazon already has their preorder page up for the K20D: http://tinyurl.com/2uckkv Gonz = I swear I see Hoya's hand in this. Or Hoya's money. Or Hoya's SD management. Or both. Pentax was never this quick off the mark before. Let's see if it holds up (marketing, delivery, availability). I am reassured about them as a company. Go Pentax! Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 SD -- SD I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. SD A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. SD When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world SD -- Anonymous SD -- SD PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List SD PDML@pdml.net SD http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net SD to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and SD follow the directions. SD !SIG:4798df14318061183918306! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Breaking the auction rule
I was on a weeklong workshop with a nationally known pro who is sponsored by Canon, he related that he was offered the use of 1200mm Canon lens but there was no way he was going to be hauling that thing around (it was a nature photog workshop) or be responsible for it (then valued, he said, @ around $80,000 USD). I disagree with their recommendation of a pan/tilt head. This surely calls for a gimbal head. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Breaking the auction rule Ok not an auction but a one of a kind item for sale. Since this is a Pentax list I don't think any of you jokers are in the market for this particular lens anyway: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=RetrieveSkuIC=557508Q=O= The Features tab is priceless: calling this lens a 'tele' is like calling King Kong a monkey Included with this lens is a leather slip-on 'lens cap', a fitted aluminum trunk case, and a prodigious measure of ego satisfaction. Weighing in at over 36lbs and an overall length of 33 inches, a sturdy tripod and pan/tilt head is highly recommended. Pack mule not included. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon
Great subject good composition. On my monitor it looked very subdued (low contrast darker than the shadows might indicate). I opened it up in CS2 saw the histogram was very biased to the left. Looking @ my new PDML mouse pad for directions, VBG decreased the white level to 194 viola, a much improved exposure IMHO. ;+} Anyway, I added all that because I assume it happens to others too. I've gotten to the point in those situations where I'll just look around, enjoy what's there in most cases not take an image. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Dog Day Afternoon Another from the archives -- taken at Taos Pueblo, Fall 2006. According to Lightroom, I have shot 12,500+ digital. (Not subtracting those taken of junk to sell on ebay.) I guess that means I can show a few more photos -- second tier photos that I consider okay. I blew it at Taos Pueblo, even though it was mid-day, there was lots of opportunity -- colors, blue on adobe, shapes, shadows, windows, doors, etc. But I really didn't get much that was decent. Sometimes I arrive somewhere I really want to shoot and I never get in the zone. Never get into that space where I look at things in such a way that I can produce an interesting photo or two. Instead I just sort of wander around, fumbling, trying to figure out what to shoot. One of these days I will figure out what triggers me; what puts me into the right space or close to it. Anyway, I added all that because I assume it happens to others too. I sort of like this, the colors, and the dog, implying how warm/hot the day was. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/dogday.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML logo stuff
You know he's asking for trouble... John Francis wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 08:17:05AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 24/01/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: one from Britain (not Cotty - someone in Devon) I don't like the font. I'm having some done up in braille next... Do that on a T-shirt offered in women's sizes and you're just asking for trouble ... -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
