Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Sandy Harris
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Savage wrote:
   http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686
  
   Sorry, couldn't resist.
  
  Yes, it's very funny.  The first thing that popped into my head was
  about the right size for a cat, too.  ;)

  So then I read the article.  Forgive me if I missed something obvious,
  but it sounds a lot like they were at home and the snake took it's time
  with the dog.  They tried to frighten it away.  The dog is now food.
  Why the f*** didn't they kill the damn thing?

Did you miss the size, a 5m snake? That's 16 feet for those who don't
know metric. I'd be reluctant to confront that at close range.

A friend in Singapore years ago lost her cat to a snake. She saw it
happen from her third floor balcony, but was not close enough to
intervene.

Are these snakes a protected species? Is anything stopping the
homeowner from going after it with a machete or a gun?

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Re: opinions: Optio S5I?

2008-02-27 Thread Derby Chang
cbwaters wrote:
 There's one on Craig's list here for like $35.  Needs a battery but they say 
 it'll work for a couple minutes on the one it has.

 What say-ith the oracle?

 CW 


   
Nup. The Official Camera of teh (sic) Internet  are cheap enough to 
get in good working condition, and save yourself the hassle.

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Re: Sroke

2008-02-27 Thread David Savage
Well shit that's sux.

Bob I wish you all the best a as speedy recovery.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Florida Gallery (mostly Butterfly Macros)

2008-02-27 Thread Derby Chang
Bob Sullivan wrote:
 http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan

 I've posted a small gallery on Photo.net from a trip to Florida
 earlier this month.  Your comments or observations would be helpful.
 This is my first use of Photo.net although not my first work on
 butterflies.  I can recommend the Voightlander APO Lanthar 125/f2.5
 Macro which Rob Studdert 'enabled' me to buy.

 Regards,  Bob S.

   

Just saw this one. Hooly dooly. #3 makes me tingly, in a good way.

Well done

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Re: Sroke

2008-02-27 Thread Derby Chang
Bob Blakely wrote:
 I've suffeed a stroke. It's considered mild, affecting only my vision to the 
 right. This makes even reading difficult. How much I recover remains to be 
 seen.

 Regards,
 Bob...
 -
 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
 but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.


   

Bob.

I hope everything turns out ok. Mild strokes are recoverable a lot of 
the time. Keep posting to let us know how you are going.

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Re: Florida Gallery (mostly Butterfly Macros)

2008-02-27 Thread Derby Chang
Bob Sullivan wrote:
 http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan

 I've posted a small gallery on Photo.net from a trip to Florida
 earlier this month.  Your comments or observations would be helpful.
 This is my first use of Photo.net although not my first work on
 butterflies.  I can recommend the Voightlander APO Lanthar 125/f2.5
 Macro which Rob Studdert 'enabled' me to buy.

 Regards,  Bob S.

   

Just saw this one. #3 makes me tingly, in a good way. À propos of the 
subject, on the Lanthar, I give it three thumbs up too

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Re: Effort Made To Restore Photography's Credibility

2008-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Whether you clone or not, depends on the purpose of the photography.  
Do you lean toward documentary or artful interpretation? Did you  
shoot so you could record the Bulgarian landscape as it now exists or  
were you trying to create an artful photograph? If the latter was  
your goal, by all means clone. Either is a worthwhile pursuit. But if  
pictures to hang on your wall or sell in a gallery are your goal,  
artful interpretation seems a more reasonable approach. It's an age  
old debate and one in which both sides can be right.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 Charles Robinson wrote:

 PS: I lied.  I just recalled that in the past I've removed cold sores
 and zits from portraits.  But that's about it.  :-)

 I'm in a real quandry.  Some of the photos I took last week in  
 Bulgaria
 would be beautiful but for the power and phone and whatever else lines
 stretched hither and yon.  I'd love to clone some of them out, but  
 they
 are part of the reality that's there.  Not sure which way I'll end up
 coming down on this one.

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Re: PESO: Lunch Break (QTVR Pano)

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
An old movie trick I read about somewhere was to underexpose using a 
polarizing filter and I think it was a red filter to simulate moonlight 
on a bright sunny day.  (This was of course using BW film).

David Savage wrote:
 G'day All,

 Hope this finds you warm  dry. (~390kb):

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/0038.mov

 ;-)

 It's kinda funky what the polariser did. Almost looks like night time to me.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO 2008 - 13 - GDG

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
As a fan of geometric and textured images, I like this very much.  It
actually reminds me of an illustration I use to show the difference
between work and heat at the molecular level, i.e., orderly vs. random
motions.I'll send my class the link.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/13-tensions.jpg 



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Re: Advice for Applying Grain

2008-02-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I was referring to the second pic (grain 1 portrait), although I like  
them both. But the highlights appear somewhat burned out in the second.
Paul
On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Thanks, Paul, but which photo do you mean?  The 1st one (eye crop)  
 or the
 second one (grain 1 portrait).  Cheers, Christine


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 I don't know about applying grain, but I like this shot a lot. And I
 would go back to RAW and pull down the highlights. You're getting
 some burn out in the brighter parts of the face. You can do that
 without deepening the shadows a lot if you work the conversion.
 Paul
 On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:38 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hi Everyone:

 I've been fooling around with applying grain, but I really don't
 know what
 I'm doing.  I don't have any guiding principles to fall back on.  I
 just
 sort of click, add noise,  adjust amounts, but I don't feel
 thoughtful
 about my attempts.

 This is an Eye Crop.  I kind of like it, but I feel like I got to
 this point
 accidently.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6991527size=lg


 This is an informal portrait (BTW, When I open this photo up in
 Photoshop
 Elements 5, it looks a lot more grainer.).
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6991553

 I suspect working with PSE5 also presents some limitations as
 opposed to
 working in the full Photoshop program.

 Anyway, I'd be grateful for just a tip or two.

 Cheers,
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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Are these snakes a protected species? Is anything stopping the
 homeowner from going after it with a machete or a gun?
 


All native reptiles are protected whether they're consuming your pet pooch or 
not.  Doesn't necessarily mean you have to stand by and let it happen, but a 5 
metre python would give most people pause

I'm no dog expert but does a silky-terrier cross qualify as a chihuahua?


Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread cbwaters
Bah...  If there were snakes like that around my place the photo in the 
story would be me holding up a snake with thousands of shotgun pellets 
lodged in it's head.  My family's protection at my home trumps your 
endangered species...
Now.. lets see if we can find a python recipe online somewhere...

CW
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Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO


 Quoting Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Are these snakes a protected species? Is anything stopping the
 homeowner from going after it with a machete or a gun?



 All native reptiles are protected whether they're consuming your pet pooch 
 or not.  Doesn't necessarily mean you have to stand by and let it happen, 
 but a 5 metre python would give most people pause

 I'm no dog expert but does a silky-terrier cross qualify as a chihuahua?


 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had the same thought.  If my cat were being attacked, I would do more
  than throw a chair.  I don't have a gun, but I have a splitting maul
  that would get it's attention.  And there's always the chain saw.

Okay.  We're talking about people who have, in their household, both a
5 metre long snake along with a mammal that it would obviously
consider prey.  Expect them to use any modicum of common sense?  Seems
they threw that concept out the window long ago...

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PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
...looking for a good time?

http://tinyurl.com/273xtu

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Cory Papenfuss
 Bah...  If there were snakes like that around my place the photo in the
 story would be me holding up a snake with thousands of shotgun pellets
 lodged in it's head.  My family's protection at my home trumps your
 endangered species...
 Now.. lets see if we can find a python recipe online somewhere...

I think they taste like chicken :)

-Cory

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Re: Florida Gallery (mostly Butterfly Macros)

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Derby.  I'm waiting for somebody to tell me the 58mm
Voightlander is as good.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/27/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:
  http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan
 
  I've posted a small gallery on Photo.net from a trip to Florida
  earlier this month.  Your comments or observations would be helpful.
  This is my first use of Photo.net although not my first work on
  butterflies.  I can recommend the Voightlander APO Lanthar 125/f2.5
  Macro which Rob Studdert 'enabled' me to buy.
 
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
 

 Just saw this one. #3 makes me tingly, in a good way. À propos of the
 subject, on the Lanthar, I give it three thumbs up too

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread David Savage
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:05 PM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Now.. lets see if we can find a python recipe online somewhere...

Just how long have you lived in the south...?

g

Cheers,

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Re: List Catching Up

2008-02-27 Thread Rick Womer
Don't know whether it's Yahoo or not; the same thing
is happening to me.

Rick

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Re: Sroke

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Kennedy
Sorry to hear that. Hope you have a speedy and full recovery.

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
I had the same thought.  If my cat were being attacked, I would do more
than throw a chair.  I don't have a gun, but I have a splitting maul
that would get it's attention.  And there's always the chain saw.

 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/26/2008 11:14 PM 
David Savage wrote:
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686
 
 Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
Yes, it's very funny.  The first thing that popped into my head was 
about the right size for a cat, too.  ;)

So then I read the article.  Forgive me if I missed something obvious,

but it sounds a lot like they were at home and the snake took it's time

with the dog.  They tried to frighten it away.  The dog is now food. 
Why the f*** didn't they kill the damn thing?

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO



 
 I'm no dog expert but does a silky-terrier cross qualify as a chihuahua?

No. A Chihuahua would probably have chewed it's way out of the snake...

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Sandy Harris
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:05 PM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Now.. lets see if we can find a python recipe online somewhere...

Ask a Chinese. I used to see people carrying 2-meter python-ish things
home, live, from markets in Singapore and I know snakes are eaten in
at least the South of China.

Googling on chinese snake recipe turns up several.

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread David Savage
I thought this was spam for male enhancement pills...

:-)

I actually quite like this. The silhouetted figure makes it for me.

Cheers,

Dave

(So were you ...ahem... coming or going?)

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM, frank theriault
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 ...looking for a good time?

  http://tinyurl.com/273xtu

  
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg

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Re: GESO: Lola Flash

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Last night, I took out the RD-1 and the K10D for a casual workout at the
  dimly lit Hopetoun.

  Not telling which shots are which, but suffice it to say, I'd have
  confidence in taking just the RD-1 in the future.

  http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_02/08_02_lolaflash/index.htm

Good pix, but the white guitar bodies are overpowering.

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault
Subject: PESO - Hey Sailor


 ...looking for a good time?

 http://tinyurl.com/273xtu

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg


I'd like to see the verticals corrected. Other than that nitpik, I think it's a 
good picture.

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Frank,
  Like Dave says...nice with the silhouetted figure!
  Looks like you are getting out nights.  ;-)

Actually, Bob, I think this one was taken at about 6:00 or 6:30pm.  I
was on my way home from the Serbian demonstration whose pix I showed
the other day.

;-)

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank,
Like Dave says...nice with the silhouetted figure!
Looks like you are getting out nights.  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/27/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought this was spam for male enhancement pills...

 :-)

 I actually quite like this. The silhouetted figure makes it for me.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 (So were you ...ahem... coming or going?)

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM, frank theriault
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...looking for a good time?
 
   http://tinyurl.com/273xtu
 
   
  http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg

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Re: Sroke

2008-02-27 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Bob,

I'm sorry to hear that. Add my whishes for your full recovery.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO



 Okay.  We're talking about people who have, in their household, both a
 5 metre long snake along with a mammal that it would obviously
 consider prey.  Expect them to use any modicum of common sense?  Seems
 they threw that concept out the window long ago...

A friend of mine's some has a corn snake, her daughter keeps little white mice 
as pets
I was over one night, Graham was showing me his snake (handsome little fellow, 
for a snake), and 
Brianne decided that she just had to show me her favourite mouse, like right 
now.
So, there I was, holding what I didn't realize was a very hungry snake in one 
hand, and a 
little, much loved mouse in the other.
The results were the stuff of melodrama.

William Robb 


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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault 
Subject: Re: PESO - Hey Sailor


 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Frank,
  Like Dave says...nice with the silhouetted figure!
  Looks like you are getting out nights.  ;-)
 
 Actually, Bob, I think this one was taken at about 6:00 or 6:30pm.  I
 was on my way home from the Serbian demonstration whose pix I showed
 the other day.
 

Practicing your day for night techniques..

William Robb

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Re: Florida Gallery (mostly Butterfly Macros)

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Frank.  Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/27/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan
 
   I've posted a small gallery on Photo.net from a trip to Florida
   earlier this month.  Your comments or observations would be helpful.
   This is my first use of Photo.net although not my first work on
   butterflies.  I can recommend the Voightlander APO Lanthar 125/f2.5
   Macro which Rob Studdert 'enabled' me to buy.
 

 Gorgeous photos, Bob!

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, there I was, holding what I didn't realize was a very hungry snake
 in one hand, and a little, much loved mouse in the other.

Pity you had no third hand for the camera.

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:
 
 (So were you ...ahem... coming or going?)
 
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM, frank theriault
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...looking for a good time?

  http://tinyurl.com/273xtu

  
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg
 
  I thought this was spam for male enhancement pills...

Perhaps it is in a way...

  I actually quite like this. The silhouetted figure makes it for me.

I agree on both points.

What's interesting is that it's a distinctly un-Theriaultean photo: It's 
both sharp *and* in color. But it's still very good!





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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
OMG - That Mr. Robb guy is never gonna be one of her favorites!
Regards,  Bob S

On 2/27/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: frank theriault
 Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO



  Okay.  We're talking about people who have, in their household, both a
  5 metre long snake along with a mammal that it would obviously
  consider prey.  Expect them to use any modicum of common sense?  Seems
  they threw that concept out the window long ago...

 A friend of mine's some has a corn snake, her daughter keeps little white 
 mice as pets
 I was over one night, Graham was showing me his snake (handsome little 
 fellow, for a snake), and
 Brianne decided that she just had to show me her favourite mouse, like right 
 now.
 So, there I was, holding what I didn't realize was a very hungry snake in one 
 hand, and a
 little, much loved mouse in the other.
 The results were the stuff of melodrama.

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Re: Woo Hoo, it's here

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Hannukah Elves got a little behind...  Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/27/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Santa was early this year ;)

 Or late...

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Cotty
Excuse me but there is something I'm not quite getting here.

Dog = fairly mobile, should do a good 20mph even a small ratlike one.

Python = large but slow out of water. Let's say about  2 or 3 mph?

On the other hand, if the mobile dog couldn't escape the ponderous
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Enablement

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Just a little pick-me-up to ease the winter doldrums.

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/02/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

A friend of mine's some has a corn snake, her daughter keeps little
white mice as pets
I was over one night, Graham was showing me his snake (handsome little
fellow, for a snake), and 
Brianne decided that she just had to show me her favourite mouse, like
right now.
So, there I was, holding what I didn't realize was a very hungry snake
in one hand, and a 
little, much loved mouse in the other.
The results were the stuff of melodrama.

I would imagine the bruises on your shins were painful for some days.

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Re: Woo Hoo, it's here

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Santa was early this year ;)

Or late...

cheers,
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Re: GESO - Serbian Demonstration

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No kidding.  I thought he was calling us all a bunch of Buddhists.  ;)

  Wonderful photos, btw.  I, too, like the first one.

Thanks, Scott, and thanks to everyone else who commented.  I thought
the first one was the best, too (that's why I started with it).  Too
bad that young lady with the gorgeous dark eyes (the last photo) moved
- I still like the photo, but it would have been nice a bit sharper.
Looks like her hands and collar are both sharper than her face, which
makes me think she moved.  I know it was around dusk, and getting
pretty dark by that point.  I switched the ISO to 1600 or 3200 just
after that photo, I think.

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread David Savage
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Cory Papenfuss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bah...  If there were snakes like that around my place the photo in the
   story would be me holding up a snake with thousands of shotgun pellets
   lodged in it's head.  My family's protection at my home trumps your
   endangered species...
   Now.. lets see if we can find a python recipe online somewhere...
  
 I think they taste like chicken :)

More lke fish.

Cheers,

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Re: Florida Gallery (mostly Butterfly Macros)

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan

  I've posted a small gallery on Photo.net from a trip to Florida
  earlier this month.  Your comments or observations would be helpful.
  This is my first use of Photo.net although not my first work on
  butterflies.  I can recommend the Voightlander APO Lanthar 125/f2.5
  Macro which Rob Studdert 'enabled' me to buy.


Gorgeous photos, Bob!

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Re: Enablement

2008-02-27 Thread Adam Maas
Nice, it's a great little lens.

Got some toys coming my way on friday ;-)

-Adam

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 Just a little pick-me-up to ease the winter doldrums.

  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5171676997768779058

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread pnstenquist
What Bill said. So when are we going to have a Toronto PDML gathering at the 
Zanzibar?
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: frank theriault
 Subject: PESO - Hey Sailor
 
 
  ...looking for a good time?
 
  http://tinyurl.com/273xtu
 
  
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/
 feb_27_08+002.jpg
 
 
 I'd like to see the verticals corrected. Other than that nitpik, I think it's 
 a 
 good picture.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
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Re: Film in, digital out...

2008-02-27 Thread Adam Maas
On 2/25/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Feb 25, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

   One of my goals here is to keep the digital end of things as stupidly
   simple as possible.  The Ultratone inks, in addition to being
   relatively
   affordable, don't require any profiles or extra software, etc.  I'm
   definitely going to give it a try before considering something like
   quadtone.  I will take a look at his printer list.


 Scott,

  Glad to help. Unfortunately, stupidly simple generally doesn't
  produce the best results, which are what I'm after.

  QuadTone RIP makes it as simple as possible to get good consistent
  BW without fussing around, IMO. That's what a RIP does.

  Before I had the R2400, I used the MIS inks (both in an Epson 1160
  and a 1270 ... still have the 1270). I didn't get results that I'd
  show anyone until I used them with QTR. Happily, the R2400's inkset
  and driver obviates the need for the RIP.

  Simple to the point of practically useful, consistent and effective,
  and not overly expensive, are good goals. My print workflow is now
  very simple to execute and very consistent. it involves using the Eye
  One Display 2 screen calibration/profiling utility, Lightroom, the
  R2400 printer, one of three papers and their associated ICC profiles.
  I don't have to second guess anything, I never think twice about
  making a print, and I don't waste paper and ink. That means a lot
  when you want to use good paper which costs $4.50 a sheet, and $3 in
  ink ... !


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because I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band in BO. I do
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Eboni black is less warm than the Epson black ink, and I'm running low
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Re: Enablement

2008-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/02/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just a little pick-me-up to ease the winter doldrums.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5171676997768779058

That wouldn't look out of place shod with a 36X12.50X15 BF Goodrich Mud-
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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

What Bill said. So when are we going to have a Toronto PDML gathering at
the Zanzibar?

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Re: Film in, digital out...

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Adam Maas wrote:
 On 2/25/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott,

  Glad to help. Unfortunately, stupidly simple generally doesn't
  produce the best results, which are what I'm after.

  QuadTone RIP makes it as simple as possible to get good consistent
  BW without fussing around, IMO. That's what a RIP does.

  Before I had the R2400, I used the MIS inks (both in an Epson 1160
  and a 1270 ... still have the 1270). I didn't get results that I'd
  show anyone until I used them with QTR. Happily, the R2400's inkset
  and driver obviates the need for the RIP.

  Simple to the point of practically useful, consistent and effective,
  and not overly expensive, are good goals. My print workflow is now
  very simple to execute and very consistent. it involves using the Eye
  One Display 2 screen calibration/profiling utility, Lightroom, the
  R2400 printer, one of three papers and their associated ICC profiles.
  I don't have to second guess anything, I never think twice about
  making a print, and I don't waste paper and ink. That means a lot
  when you want to use good paper which costs $4.50 a sheet, and $3 in
  ink ... !

  Godfrey

 I actually do Black Only printing with the C86, if you get a good one
 the results are excellent on good paper (I'm using the Harman Glossy
 Fb Al paper, wonderful stuff, looks and smells like air-dried Ilford
 Gallerie Glossy Fb wet prints). I don't use the MIS inks simply
 because I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band in BO. I do
 have to buy the MIS inks at some point though, if only because the
 Eboni black is less warm than the Epson black ink, and I'm running low
 on $5 out of date Epson ink.
 
I'm glad you responded to Godfrey's post, Adam, because this is the 
first time I've seen it.  Thanks to both of you for the input.

The C86 isn't generally available anymore.  Anyone know if its 
replacement, the C88, has the same problems with BO banding?

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: frank theriault
 Subject: PESO - Hey Sailor
 
 
 ...looking for a good time?

 http://tinyurl.com/273xtu

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg

 
 I'd like to see the verticals corrected.

I expect that young lady specializes in correcting verticals.

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Cotty wrote:
 On 27/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 What Bill said. So when are we going to have a Toronto PDML gathering at
 the Zanzibar?
 
 That would be worth flying over for.
 
No kidding.  You think they'll let us camp in the parking lot for the 
weekend?

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:39 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 ...looking for a good time?

 http://tinyurl.com/273xtu
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/ 
 Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg

Nice! How un-frank can you get and still be frank? Color, sharp, etc  
etc. ;-)

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Re: Film in, digital out...

2008-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you get a good one...
.. I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band...

I have neither time nor patience to deal with if, lucked out or  
hunting for the right paper that performs well. I want a printer to  
be an absolute no brainer to use: install it, pick the paper surfaces  
I want, install the profiles, and print with Lightroom using color  
managed workflow. Done. That's what the Epson R2400 gives me.

Godfrey


On Feb 27, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

 I actually do Black Only printing with the C86, if you get a good one
 the results are excellent on good paper (I'm using the Harman Glossy
 Fb Al paper, wonderful stuff, looks and smells like air-dried Ilford
 Gallerie Glossy Fb wet prints). I don't use the MIS inks simply
 because I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band in BO. I do
 have to buy the MIS inks at some point though, if only because the
 Eboni black is less warm than the Epson black ink, and I'm running low
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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO


 Excuse me but there is something I'm not quite getting here.

 Dog = fairly mobile, should do a good 20mph even a small ratlike one.

 Python = large but slow out of water. Let's say about  2 or 3 mph?

 On the other hand, if the mobile dog couldn't escape the ponderous
 python, then Darwin does indeed deserve some credit.



I rather imagine the dog was a victim of it's own temperment traits. Terriers 
are fearless 
natural born killers, and don't, as a rule, back down to anything.

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Re: Film in, digital out...

2008-02-27 Thread pnstenquist
I agree. The Epson R2400 has made printing a no brainer when used with the 
Epson papers and profiles. I use Velvet Fine Art, Ultra-Premium Luster, and 
Enhanced Matte (which has a new name that I've forgotten. The Ultra-Premium 
Luster is used with the Photo Black ink, the other two with the Matte Black. 
But they all deliver great BW prints that are totally free of any color cast 
and show great grayscale gradation. Color prints are super as well, with  
better shadow detail and gradatin than I've seen from any other printer.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 If you get a good one...
 .. I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band...
 
 I have neither time nor patience to deal with if, lucked out or  
 hunting for the right paper that performs well. I want a printer to  
 be an absolute no brainer to use: install it, pick the paper surfaces  
 I want, install the profiles, and print with Lightroom using color  
 managed workflow. Done. That's what the Epson R2400 gives me.
 
 Godfrey
 
 
 On Feb 27, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
 
  I actually do Black Only printing with the C86, if you get a good one
  the results are excellent on good paper (I'm using the Harman Glossy
  Fb Al paper, wonderful stuff, looks and smells like air-dried Ilford
  Gallerie Glossy Fb wet prints). I don't use the MIS inks simply
  because I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band in BO. I do
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Re: (not for 56K modem guys) Usefull comparison between 40D and K20D at High ISOs

2008-02-27 Thread Toralf Lund
Thibouille wrote:
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/184452-post1.html

 Really not that bad. The 40D is a bit better, even at 1600 I do not
 see much of a difference.
 The ISO3200 is clearly better on the 40D.
   
I've been meaning to ask; is it just me, or does a picture with the info 
shot at ISO-something (and nothing else) provide very little in terms 
of useful info?

To me, the ISO setting is a just a value with little meaning in its own 
right; what I think people should present instead, is (the best 
possible) shots at a specific exposure setup under specific lightning 
conditions.

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Cotty

 What Bill said. So when are we going to have a Toronto PDML gathering at
 the Zanzibar?
 
 That would be worth flying over for.
 
No kidding.  You think they'll let us camp in the parking lot for the 
weekend?

Ceeb brings the BBQ, I don't see why not.

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Re: Advice for Applying Grain

2008-02-27 Thread Ken Waller
 My advice on applying grain:  either neat or over ice.   Repeat as needed.

Also -  be wary when you go against the grain !

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Ken Waller
Nice capture.
If it were mine I'd probably eliminate the pole in the lower center of the 
image.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Hey Sailor


 ...looking for a good time?

 http://tinyurl.com/273xtu

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Ken Waller
Terriers are fearless natural born killers, and don't, as a rule, back down 
to anything.

So he went down head first ?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO



 - Original Message - 
 From: Cotty
 Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO


 Excuse me but there is something I'm not quite getting here.

 Dog = fairly mobile, should do a good 20mph even a small ratlike one.

 Python = large but slow out of water. Let's say about  2 or 3 mph?

 On the other hand, if the mobile dog couldn't escape the ponderous
 python, then Darwin does indeed deserve some credit.



 I rather imagine the dog was a victim of it's own temperment traits. 
 Terriers are fearless
 natural born killers, and don't, as a rule, back down to anything.

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I think that the Australian firearms ban was pushed through to protect 
wildlife, but protecting children was a much better and more cynical 
excuse, since a 5 meter python could just as easily have consumed 
someones toddler.

Steve Desjardins wrote:
 I had the same thought.  If my cat were being attacked, I would do more
 than throw a chair.  I don't have a gun, but I have a splitting maul
 that would get it's attention.  And there's always the chain saw.

   
 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/26/2008 11:14 PM 
 
 David Savage wrote:
   
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686

 Sorry, couldn't resist.

 
 Yes, it's very funny.  The first thing that popped into my head was 
 about the right size for a cat, too.  ;)

 So then I read the article.  Forgive me if I missed something obvious,

 but it sounds a lot like they were at home and the snake took it's time

 with the dog.  They tried to frighten it away.  The dog is now food. 
 Why the f*** didn't they kill the damn thing?

   


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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I bet they taste more like rattle snake.

Cory Papenfuss wrote:
 Bah...  If there were snakes like that around my place the photo in the
 story would be me holding up a snake with thousands of shotgun pellets
 lodged in it's head.  My family's protection at my home trumps your
 endangered species...
 Now.. lets see if we can find a python recipe online somewhere...

 
   I think they taste like chicken :)

 -Cory

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Re: Florida Gallery (mostly Butterfly Macros)

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Hey guys, Derby somehow got three thumbs, who's missing one.

Derby Chang wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:
   
 http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan

 I've posted a small gallery on Photo.net from a trip to Florida
 earlier this month.  Your comments or observations would be helpful.
 This is my first use of Photo.net although not my first work on
 butterflies.  I can recommend the Voightlander APO Lanthar 125/f2.5
 Macro which Rob Studdert 'enabled' me to buy.

 Regards,  Bob S.

   
 

 Just saw this one. #3 makes me tingly, in a good way. À propos of the 
 subject, on the Lanthar, I give it three thumbs up too

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
That's a good idea.  I could call my neighbors and probably raffle off
the chance to shoot it.  g

I've heard that these are becoming a real problem in the Florida
Everglades.  Enough pets have been released to start a breeding
population.

 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/27/2008 11:44 AM 
Normally I wouldn't go near it either.  But then that's what shotguns 
are for...

David Savage wrote:
 ...who wasn't personally confronted by a big ass snake.

 There is no way known I would go near that thing. It can have the 
 yappy rat AFAIK.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 At 02:08 PM 27/02/2008, P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 Sorry Scott you're thinking like an American.

 Scott Loveless wrote:
 
 David Savage wrote:

   
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686

 Sorry, couldn't resist.


 
 Yes, it's very funny.  The first thing that popped into my head
was
 about the right size for a cat, too.  ;)

 So then I read the article.  Forgive me if I missed something
obvious,
 but it sounds a lot like they were at home and the snake took it's
time
 with the dog.  They tried to frighten it away.  The dog is now
food.
 Why the f*** didn't they kill the damn thing?
   


   


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Re: Sroke

2008-02-27 Thread John Francis

Me too (a bit late, but better late than never, I hope).

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 06:35:41PM +0900, David Savage wrote:

 Well shit that's sux.
 
 Bob I wish you all the best a as speedy recovery.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
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   right. This makes even reading difficult. How much I recover remains to be
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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice capture.
  If it were mine I'd probably eliminate the pole in the lower center of the
  image.

Without the pole, what would the silhouetted lady have to lean on?

;-)

Thanks for commenting.

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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Doug Brewer


frank theriault wrote:
 ...looking for a good time?
 
 http://tinyurl.com/273xtu
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 

Great. Now I have that stupid Billy Joel song stuck in my head.

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Re: Enablement

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Pretty glass, crappy looking filterer ring...

Scott Loveless wrote:
 Just a little pick-me-up to ease the winter doldrums.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5171676997768779058

   


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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Doug Brewer wrote:
 
 frank theriault wrote:
 ...looking for a good time?

 http://tinyurl.com/273xtu

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R8Vkl0gqgqI/Bk4/8ZTdlwUB6Mk/s1600-h/feb_27_08+002.jpg

 Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

 
 Great. Now I have that stupid Billy Joel song stuck in my head.
 
Are you hiding in the darkness with your beer?

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Re: Sroke

2008-02-27 Thread Doug Brewer
get better, Bob.

Bob Blakely wrote:
 I've suffeed a stroke. It's considered mild, affecting only my vision to the 
 right. This makes even reading difficult. How much I recover remains to be 
 seen.
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
 -
 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
 but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
 
 

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Obviously you've never seen a python (or a chihuahua),  in action.  
Unless the dog has had a close encounter with a snake it will have no 
fear.  The snake can be very fast over short distances and only needs to 
grab part of the dog after that it's all over.  I once witnessed an 
initial encounter between a medium sized dog, (35lb too big to eat),  
and a 4 foot python.  Dog sniffing, moves up to the snake, snake is like 
a statue.  At about three inches the snake strikes, dog yelps like it's 
being killed, the snake releases dog.  Dog runs for the other side of 
the room, and stays there.  That dog never approached the snake again.  
I doubt the chihuahua had a useful learning opportunity,  since learning 
only helps if you survive it.

Cotty wrote:
 Excuse me but there is something I'm not quite getting here.

 Dog = fairly mobile, should do a good 20mph even a small ratlike one.

 Python = large but slow out of water. Let's say about  2 or 3 mph?

 On the other hand, if the mobile dog couldn't escape the ponderous
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Re: Enablement

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
P. J. Alling wrote:
 Pretty glass, crappy looking filterer ring...
 
 Scott Loveless wrote:
 Just a little pick-me-up to ease the winter doldrums.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5171676997768779058

   
 
 
It's actually not bad.  Some of the paint is missing, but filters screw 
on and off without difficulty.  Overall, not bad for $20.

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Re: Woo Hoo, it's here

2008-02-27 Thread keith_w
Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Hannukah Elves got a little behind...  Regards,  Bob S.

Of *course* they do, Bob!  Geez!

keith whaley
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 On 2/27/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Santa was early this year ;)

 Or late...

 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Hey Sailor

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
The problem here is you were being too subtle.

frank theriault wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Nice capture.
  If it were mine I'd probably eliminate the pole in the lower center of the
  image.
 

 Without the pole, what would the silhouetted lady have to lean on?

 ;-)

 Thanks for commenting.

 cheers,
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Re: Enablement

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Now how the hell did the spell checker change filter to filterer???

P. J. Alling wrote:
 Pretty glass, crappy looking filterer ring...

 Scott Loveless wrote:
   
 Just a little pick-me-up to ease the winter doldrums.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5171676997768779058

   
 


   


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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Steeling some bandwidth

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EY1KD090L._SS400_.jpg

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 OMG - That Mr. Robb guy is never gonna be one of her favorites!
 Regards,  Bob S

 On 2/27/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 - Original Message -
 From: frank theriault
 Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO



 
 Okay.  We're talking about people who have, in their household, both a
 5 metre long snake along with a mammal that it would obviously
 consider prey.  Expect them to use any modicum of common sense?  Seems
 they threw that concept out the window long ago...
   
 A friend of mine's some has a corn snake, her daughter keeps little white 
 mice as pets
 I was over one night, Graham was showing me his snake (handsome little 
 fellow, for a snake), and
 Brianne decided that she just had to show me her favourite mouse, like right 
 now.
 So, there I was, holding what I didn't realize was a very hungry snake in 
 one hand, and a
 little, much loved mouse in the other.
 The results were the stuff of melodrama.

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Sounds like a Gary Larson cartoon, setup waiting for the punchline.

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 OMG - That Mr. Robb guy is never gonna be one of her favorites!
 Regards,  Bob S

 On 2/27/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
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 From: frank theriault
 Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO



 
 Okay.  We're talking about people who have, in their household, both a
 5 metre long snake along with a mammal that it would obviously
 consider prey.  Expect them to use any modicum of common sense?  Seems
 they threw that concept out the window long ago...
   
 A friend of mine's some has a corn snake, her daughter keeps little white 
 mice as pets
 I was over one night, Graham was showing me his snake (handsome little 
 fellow, for a snake), and
 Brianne decided that she just had to show me her favourite mouse, like right 
 now.
 So, there I was, holding what I didn't realize was a very hungry snake in 
 one hand, and a
 little, much loved mouse in the other.
 The results were the stuff of melodrama.

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Re: Film in, digital out...

2008-02-27 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey,

The C86/MIS ink combo is a no-brainer. It's Black Only that is a
crapshoot but looks great if you can do it.

-Adam

On 2/27/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you get a good one...
  .. I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band...

  I have neither time nor patience to deal with if, lucked out or
  hunting for the right paper that performs well. I want a printer to
  be an absolute no brainer to use: install it, pick the paper surfaces
  I want, install the profiles, and print with Lightroom using color
  managed workflow. Done. That's what the Epson R2400 gives me.


  Godfrey



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   I actually do Black Only printing with the C86, if you get a good one
   the results are excellent on good paper (I'm using the Harman Glossy
   Fb Al paper, wonderful stuff, looks and smells like air-dried Ilford
   Gallerie Glossy Fb wet prints). I don't use the MIS inks simply
   because I lucked out in getting a C86 which doesn't band in BO. I do
   have to buy the MIS inks at some point though, if only because the
   Eboni black is less warm than the Epson black ink, and I'm running low
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Re: PESO: hardcore industrial kitsch

2008-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 26, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 Arcelor's Dunkirk steel mill, christmas 2007:

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/11970048

Lovely as always, Ralf. You should be planning the book, eh?

G

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Fwd: OT: Photo of Ernie Pyle

2008-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This popped up in my inbox a few minutes ago. Thought others might be  
interested.

Godfrey

Begin forwarded message:

 Thought this might be of interest to the
 journalists and writers in the group.

 Death Photo of War Reporter Pyle Found
 Associated Press  |  February 04, 2008

 ...As far as can be determined, the photograph has never been
 published. Sixty-three years after Pyle was killed by the Japanese, it
 has surfaced - surprising historians, reminding a forgetful world of a
 humble correspondent who artfully and ardently told the story of a war
 from the foxholes...

 Story at:
 http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,161269,00.html? 
 ESRC=army-a.nl


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Re: GESO: Lola Flash

2008-02-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Punch down the guitar a little bit in most of these, it's a bit too  
hot and is distracting as a result.

G

On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_02/08_02_lolaflash/index.htm

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PESO - Water filaments

2008-02-27 Thread AlunFoto
Just a silly abstract, maybe, but I really like this one myself.
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/02/water-filaments.html

Your opinion would much appreciated.

Best,
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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
See the subject line g.

 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/27/2008 12:41 PM 
Steeling some bandwidth

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EY1KD090L._SS400_.jpg 

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 OMG - That Mr. Robb guy is never gonna be one of her favorites!
 Regards,  Bob S

 On 2/27/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 - Original Message -
 From: frank theriault
 Subject: Re: OT: ROTFLMAO



 
 Okay.  We're talking about people who have, in their household,
both a
 5 metre long snake along with a mammal that it would obviously
 consider prey.  Expect them to use any modicum of common sense? 
Seems
 they threw that concept out the window long ago...
   
 A friend of mine's some has a corn snake, her daughter keeps little
white mice as pets
 I was over one night, Graham was showing me his snake (handsome
little fellow, for a snake), and
 Brianne decided that she just had to show me her favourite mouse,
like right now.
 So, there I was, holding what I didn't realize was a very hungry
snake in one hand, and a
 little, much loved mouse in the other.
 The results were the stuff of melodrama.

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Re: Sroke

2008-02-27 Thread Boris Liberman
*Sigh*. Bob, I'll be thinking of you.

Wishing you speedy and the best possible recovery.

Boris

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Kennedy
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:41 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steeling some bandwidth

  http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EY1KD090L._SS400_.jpg



smile

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Re: Start-up lets you fix focus after snapping the shutter

2008-02-27 Thread Walter Hamler
Now that is something I would love to see!!

Walt

On 2/27/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recall seeing this in an Adobe presentation a while ago. Seems like
 the start-up is getting off the ground

 http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9876296-39.html?part=dtxtag=nl.e703

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Re: Start-up lets you fix focus after snapping the shutter

2008-02-27 Thread Brian Walters
It would certainly improve most of my photos.



Cheers

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Quoting Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Now that is something I would love to see!!
 
 Walt
 
 On 2/27/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I recall seeing this in an Adobe presentation a while ago. Seems
 like
  the start-up is getting off the ground
 
 
 http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9876296-39.html?part=dtxtag=nl.e703
 
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Re: PESO - School Day

2008-02-27 Thread Walter Hamler
Nice one, Bruce.

Walt

On 2/27/08, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My daughter just before going to school today.  She wanted me to take
 her picture.  I obliged.

 Thought you might want to see how the lens renders.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm, Fill Flash -1.5
 ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/4, handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5734.htm

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Walter Hamler
When we first moved here to the Orlando area, there were stories going
round about a recent event where two local police officers had to kill
an Anaconda. It was about 18 feet lond and weighed some god awful
amount. Supposedly took over 200 rounds to finally kill it.
Afterwards, folks started bringing forth stories of missing animals,
mostly dogs and cats, but some small pigs were also included.
Now, the stories out of South FL, Everglades area, of lots of large
snakes, Boas, etc, that are breeding like rats after being turned
loose by owners because they were getting too expensive to feed!

Walt

On 2/26/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686

 Sorry, couldn't resist.

 Cheers,

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PESO - School Day

2008-02-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
My daughter just before going to school today.  She wanted me to take
her picture.  I obliged.

Thought you might want to see how the lens renders.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm, Fill Flash -1.5
ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/4, handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5734.htm

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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Brian Walters
No, the 'ban' was to minimize events such as that at Port Arthur a few years 
ago when one moron killed 30 or more people in a hour or two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_%28Australia%29

It's not a ban, as such - just a limitation on certain types of firearms.  It 
involved a buy back purchase and destruction of all semi-automatic rifles


Cheers

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Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I think that the Australian firearms ban was pushed through to
 protect 
 wildlife, but protecting children was a much better and more
 cynical 
 excuse, since a 5 meter python could just as easily have consumed 
 someones toddler.


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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Igor Roshchin

.. so that the bigger dog would get stuck in snake's throat..
:-)

Igor

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 It's times like these you realize you need to have a bigger dog.
 
 David Savage wrote:
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686

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Re: PESO - School Day

2008-02-27 Thread pnstenquist
Beautiful pic, beautiful girl. Great bokeh, great light.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 My daughter just before going to school today.  She wanted me to take
 her picture.  I obliged.
 
 Thought you might want to see how the lens renders.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm, Fill Flash -1.5
 ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/4, handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5734.htm
 
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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
If it were big enough the snake wouldn't try to eat it.  (If it can get 
past the jaws it can get down the throat.

Igor Roshchin wrote:
 .. so that the bigger dog would get stuck in snake's throat..
 :-)

 Igor

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 It's times like these you realize you need to have a bigger dog.

 David Savage wrote:
 
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686
   

   


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Re: PESO - School Day

2008-02-27 Thread Jack Davis
Impressive lens. Nice, subdued, shadow free lighting.
Lens makes your daughter very pretty. :)
(actually, I think your daughter makes the lens look good)

Jack
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My daughter just before going to school today.  She wanted me to take
 her picture.  I obliged.
 
 Thought you might want to see how the lens renders.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm, Fill Flash -1.5
 ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/4, handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5734.htm
 
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Re: OT: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Christian
Walter Hamler wrote:
 When we first moved here to the Orlando area, there were stories going
 round about a recent event where two local police officers had to kill
 an Anaconda. It was about 18 feet lond and weighed some god awful
 amount. Supposedly took over 200 rounds to finally kill it.

Typical cops...  199 rounds probably missed completely.  Christ, one 
shotgun blast to the head at close range is all it would take.  Stupid, 
stupid cops.

 Afterwards, folks started bringing forth stories of missing animals,
 mostly dogs and cats, but some small pigs were also included.
 Now, the stories out of South FL, Everglades area, of lots of large
 snakes, Boas, etc, that are breeding like rats after being turned
 loose by owners because they were getting too expensive to feed!

Florida is an environmental disaster...  Piranhas and South American 
cichlids (oscars, peacock bass, etc) breeding in the rivers, 
god-only-knows how many species of parrot flying around and breeding and 
of course all the non-native snakes.  Not sure if the snakes are 
breeding, but there are certainly enough of them.  Stupid, irresponsible 
  pet owners...

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Re: Effort Made To Restore Photography's Credibility

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ken Waller
 Subject: Re: Effort Made To Restore Photography's Credibility
 
 
 
 It all boils down to the credeability of the one who took the image.
 When I've testified in product litigation trials, a main point in the
 presentation of my inspection images was that I took the images  they are a
 true  accurate dipiction of what I saw on the day of my inspection.
 The images are only as credeable as the testifier.
 
 Therein lies the real problem though. With digital images so very easy to 
 alter compared to a
 film image, all it takes is a less than honest expert testifier who has an 
 agenda of his own to
 ruin someone's life.

IIRC, the testifier has to be the person who took the photo. An expert 
witness might offer opinion, but photos presented without testimony from 
*the person who took them* don't carry nearly as much weight, whether 
they're digital or not. My S.O. testifies as an expert witness fairly 
often and brings her photos as exhibits; what they want to know is does 
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Re: Start-up lets you fix focus after snapping the shutter

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Derby Chang wrote:
 I recall seeing this in an Adobe presentation a while ago. Seems like 
 the start-up is getting off the ground
 
 http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9876296-39.html?part=dtxtag=nl.e703

The technology was introduced a couple of years ago. Basically, it lets 
you turn a 12 megapixel out-of-focus image into a 3 megapixel in-focus 
image (I think the ratio was about 4:1). Interesting, but not very exciting.

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Re: Australia Trip -- New Lens

2008-02-27 Thread P. J. Alling
mike wilson wrote:
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 Date: 2008/02/25 Mon PM 08:05:30 GMT
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 On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Good ol' Cesar.

  Packs not only for his worst case scenario but everyone else's too.

   
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No cheap Pentax

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
It's funny but right now there is no really cheap, i.e., $500, Pentax
DSLR.  I have a friend thinking about moving to a DSLR, an the cheapest
Pentax at BH is the K10D at $650.  Nikon has the D40 for $500 and
Olympus has the 510 ($485) and the 410 ($399). ( I just can't bring
myself to recommend a low end Rebel.)   At least I have no reservations
about recommending the K10D.

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RE: ROTFLMAO

2008-02-27 Thread Bob W
We'd had the dog about five years, so it was part of the family,

...and now it's part of the snake.


 
 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=384686
 
 Sorry, couldn't resist.


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