Focus-Test
http://www.zimbio.com/member/k10dbook/articles/1701411/PART+2+Autofocus+Adjustment+Pentax+K20D+Custom Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Google Chrome Browser
But looking at this Google Chrome, there are a couple of things that bother me. First is that EULA thing - give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and nonexclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. I downloaded and tried it yesterday. I had a question about the Favourites / bookmarks, so I typed 'favourites' into Help. It came back with nothing, other than the question 'Did you mean favorites?'. There was nowhere for me to reply no I fuckin' didn't. What with that and the keylogger and the missing functionality (I know it's only a beta) I uninstalled it until it's a bit more mature and a bit less like spyware. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The nymphs are departed
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 04:34:07 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: The nymphs are departed Here are some of the pictures from the weekend: http://www.web-options.com/TP2008/ The source itself is the very dry stone monument, picture 4. Picture 7 shows Lyd Well, which is where the water first flows permanently, a few hundred yards from the source. It is, however, a well not a spring. I think the Romans dug it. The cows seem to too. Bob I dig cows, with or without guns http://www.web-options.com/TP2008/content/_8308296_large.html Lovely John Constable moment http://www.web-options.com/TP2008/content/_8308306_large.html BFF beef Thanks. I'm driving myself mad trying to find the picture by Constable with the cattle in the water. I didn't think about it at the time, but there was definitely some memory of it tickled - I thought the scene seemed familiar from wildlife programmes, and the cows were fantasising about being water buffalo. If anyone can remember the name of the painting, or provide a link, it may restore my sanity. The nearest one I know is Salisbury Cathedral from the Meadows but that's horses pulling a wagon. http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/constable_john.html - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sneer
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 05:07:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Sneer On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:54 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loud, obnoxious, swearing, spitting, sneering. Looks like some one did'nt enjoy the 90's scene.:-) Dave ?? Punk was two decades before that for me. You _really_ should have used less acid in the 60s. However, the lead singer was an interesting study. Sadly, both the background and foreground weren't particularly pleasing, but with a heavy crop I managed to get this one of him: Good shot Frank, with hte crop here, the back ground looks ok. http://tinyurl.com/596qpn http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SL027fHfIXI/C9w/5y9MgYa8UFg/s1600-h/sept_02_08+006.jpg I just wish I'd have had earplugs. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: gatherings
From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 05:55:44 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: gatherings yeah, so anyone want to visit Germany a few months from now? door's always open! rg2 PDML NeuJahrFest? On 9/3/08, Otis C. Wright, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same for me... Otis Wright Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I'm about an hour and a half away by train. Depending on the day and time, I would try to make it. Dan M On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: I fancy an NYPDML - anyone keen? Dates I can make: week of October 13 week of November 17 Rick Womer wrote: Re gatherings: An NYPDML sounds great; the weekend of Oct 11-12 would work. I'm working the following weekend, and will be in the UK the weeks of Nov 10 and 17. The 11th and 12th sound good to me if Cotty is going to be there that early. Otherwise, I can pretty much free up any weekend. I'm going to assume (this will probably bite me in the ass) that since Norm actually lives there, he'll be able to make it. Plus, there's Ann, so that makes 4 or 5. Anyone heard from Amita? I feel like I'm missing someone. Who else is in/near NYC? -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, PA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 06:11:50 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - good Olympic gallery This caught my eye - takes a minute to load the pics, all on one page but some classics... http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle ry_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1/ Access has been blocked because: Prohibited by URL database (Pornography Adult Material) So now I'm wondering...What does VKMag stand for? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: gatherings
From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/04 Thu AM 02:01:03 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: gatherings I'm hoping there will be a London PDML during the spring sometime--we plan to be in Oxford for a few months. Rick Try to visit some good-looking parts of the country while you are here. 8-) http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/9/08, Rebekah, discombobulated, unleashed: yeah, so anyone want to visit Germany a few months from now? door's always open! That's a generous offer Rebekah. Here's one for you: pop across to London and we'll do a London PDML - not had one for a while :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
The incomplete URL loads some interesting pictures... mike wilson wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 06:11:50 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - good Olympic gallery This caught my eye - takes a minute to load the pics, all on one page but some classics... http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle ry_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1/ Access has been blocked because: Prohibited by URL database (Pornography Adult Material) So now I'm wondering...What does VKMag stand for? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: gatherings
Looks like I'll be in Brussels for a conference 24. - 25. February. Other than that it's just London. It's the closest I can make to Germany in forseeable future, I'm afraid... Anyone for some eagle photography in Norway, btw? :-) Reason I opened my mail right now was to book in from 12.-16. January at this place: http://www.norway-nature.com/ Jostein 2008/9/3 Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yeah, so anyone want to visit Germany a few months from now? door's always open! rg2 On 9/3/08, Otis C. Wright, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same for me... Otis Wright Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I'm about an hour and a half away by train. Depending on the day and time, I would try to make it. Dan M On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: I fancy an NYPDML - anyone keen? Dates I can make: week of October 13 week of November 17 Rick Womer wrote: Re gatherings: An NYPDML sounds great; the weekend of Oct 11-12 would work. I'm working the following weekend, and will be in the UK the weeks of Nov 10 and 17. The 11th and 12th sound good to me if Cotty is going to be there that early. Otherwise, I can pretty much free up any weekend. I'm going to assume (this will probably bite me in the ass) that since Norm actually lives there, he'll be able to make it. Plus, there's Ann, so that makes 4 or 5. Anyone heard from Amita? I feel like I'm missing someone. Who else is in/near NYC? -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, PA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: gatherings
I'll have these weeknights in London: 17.09 - 18.09 22.10 03.12 - 04.12 There'll be more after Christmas, but dates are somewhat wobbly. Jostein 2008/9/3 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/9/08, Rebekah, discombobulated, unleashed: yeah, so anyone want to visit Germany a few months from now? door's always open! That's a generous offer Rebekah. Here's one for you: pop across to London and we'll do a London PDML - not had one for a while :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: gatherings
2008/9/4 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm hoping there will be a London PDML during the spring sometime--we plan to be in Oxford for a few months. Try to visit some good-looking parts of the country while you are here. 8-) Northumbtria is indeed recommended. Go on low-traffic days. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: gatherings
2008/9/4 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Northumbtria is indeed recommended. Go on low-traffic days. :-) If I could just get my spillings right... :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Focus-Test
Good news can spread widely. :-) Here's the blog of the guy who made the chart: http://pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com/2008/06/part-1-autofocus-adjustment-for-pentax.html Jostein 2008/9/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.zimbio.com/member/k10dbook/articles/1701411/PART+2+Autofocus+Adjustment+Pentax+K20D+Custom Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: gatherings
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/04 Thu AM 11:04:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: gatherings 2008/9/4 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Northumbtria is indeed recommended. Go on low-traffic days. :-) If I could just get my spillings right... :-) Nee botha, bonny lad. Ancestors get special dispensation. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew: Fun pics. I didn't know deep fried Oreos existed. Are they any good? :-) Cheers, Christine Surprisingly, yes! The batter is funnel cake batter, so it tastes like funnel cake and Oreos, which works pretty well. The cookie is slightly softened in the cooking process, but not hot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Google Chrome Browser
Bob W wrote: What with that and the keylogger and the missing functionality (I know it's only a beta) I uninstalled it until it's a bit more mature and a bit less like spyware. I think it's realistic to expect it to get more mature. I don't think it's realistic to expect it to get less like spyware. Consider the data Google already keeps from searches people request ... It might get less /obviously/ like spyware, but that stuff is exactly the leverage Google wants and it's a big part of the reason for mooting Chrome in the first place, IMNSHO. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - She Just Talks and Talks and Talks...
You'll have to scroll down a bit for today's photo: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/she-just-talks-and-talks-and-talks.html Other than the reactions of the passengers, I love the leering meerkats on the wall... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Three Votes for Ice Cream
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great job in the composition. The stairs to take you to the ice cream. I like the blue walls. Good exposure to, in what looks like tough light. Dave, Christine, Bob, Judy and I thank you for your kind comments. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - She Just Talks and Talks and Talks...
That is a GREAT photo! :-) Godfrey On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:45 AM, frank theriault wrote: You'll have to scroll down a bit for today's photo: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/she-just-talks-and-talks-and-talks.html Other than the reactions of the passengers, I love the leering meerkats on the wall... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - She Just Talks and Talks and Talks...
Excellent. A great moment. Paul On Sep 4, 2008, at 8:45 AM, frank theriault wrote: You'll have to scroll down a bit for today's photo: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/she-just-talks-and- talks-and-talks.html Other than the reactions of the passengers, I love the leering meerkats on the wall... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Google Chrome Browser
Doug Franklin wrote: Bob W wrote: What with that and the keylogger and the missing functionality (I know it's only a beta) I uninstalled it until it's a bit more mature and a bit less like spyware. I think it's realistic to expect it to get more mature. I don't think it's realistic to expect it to get less like spyware. Consider the data Google already keeps from searches people request ... It might get less /obviously/ like spyware, but that stuff is exactly the leverage Google wants and it's a big part of the reason for mooting Chrome in the first place, IMNSHO. Yes, that's my feeling. Google's long gone past the point at which I *trust* them any more. I'll install Chrome (when it gets out of beta), because I need to know about it for the classes I teach, but I can't see myself ever using it for browsing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:22 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The incomplete URL loads some interesting pictures... I guess I didn't scroll down far enough. All I know is that yesterday it took forever to load and for the rest of the day my computer was running slow as molasses. The Olympic photos what I saw were pretty amazing, though. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
- Original Message - From: Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] I call your attention to the Digital Manipulation categories. Taken literally, it seems impossible to shoot digital without ending up in the Digital Manipulation categories, especially if you shoot raw. For example: 26. Single or Multiple Images - The creation of an improved image through the use of computer tools Well, debayering a raw file certainly improves it. So does using computer tools to choose a suitable 8x10 cropping, as required by the rules. I've even been known to improve an image by picking black and white points with my computer tools. But even worse: 28. Tonal/Colorization - Black White, Sepia, or Color saturation of a digital photograph to increase visual dynamics to the viewer. I take this to mean that any digital BW conversion lands you in the Digital Manipulation ghetto, instead of, say, BW Portrait. I believe you're taking it wrongly. It looks like there are ADDITIONAL categories for obviously manipulated digital images. You can enter your mundane prints in any of the categories either BW or Color (or all of them if you have enough prints and money) ... and you still have 5 categories for your exotic PhotoShop work. If anyone has a complaint, it's film photographers, whose work is excluded from those categories because they create manipulated images the way they've been done since the days of Wm. H. Fox Talbot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip No rant for this festival, except for the $8 chicken-on-a-stick. Doesn't sound like too much fun for the chickens... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Google Chrome Browser
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] I downloaded and tried it yesterday. I had a question about the Favourites / bookmarks, so I typed 'favourites' into Help. It came back with nothing, other than the question 'Did you mean favorites?'. There was nowhere for me to reply no I fuckin' didn't. What with that and the keylogger and the missing functionality (I know it's only a beta) I uninstalled it until it's a bit more mature and a bit less like spyware. Bob You just ran into the fact that most Americans, including obviously Google's programmers, don't recognize English English has different spellings for some words than American English. We get in a bit of a hurry sometimes and leave letters out ... most words with ou, unless it's followed by gh, drop the 'u'. So, you get favorites instead of favourites, humor instead of humour ... while we remain rough and tough. ;-D I think it was Churchill who said we were two peoples separated by a common language ... or it might have been GB Shaw. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 06:11:50 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - good Olympic gallery This caught my eye - takes a minute to load the pics, all on one page but some classics... http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle ry_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1/ Access has been blocked because: Prohibited by URL database (Pornography Adult Material) So now I'm wondering...What does VKMag stand for? There wasn't any porn that I saw, but the URL wrapped in Cotty's message. If you aren't ready to paste the second line into the address, you get a random photo. First time, I got one of some body builder/pro-wrestler type sandwiched between two honeys in bikinis. Try this URL: http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/gallery_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1 The photography seemed to focus on grotesque or somewhat risqué moments. Truncating the URL to vkmag.com, it looked like an online bastard child of FHM and Mad magazine with sophomoric gross-out humor (or humour) and gratuitous sex. It's written in Dutch. Looks like it's from Amsterdam, so the sexual content is probably a bit freewheeling for most American content filters. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So last weekend, the wife and I went to the local county fair, for the first time since moving back here. If I point you to my meager gallery, can I get away with a rant? http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157607060568138/ Anyway, we learned that if you submit something for competition, you get in free. It occurred to me that paying $8 to enter the photography contest and get in free is at least as good as paying $8 at the gate just to get in. And I just might beat the people who have the date burned in red digits on their pictures, not to mention the folks who entered color photographs in the BW categories (true!). So I look up the entry guidelines, which are here: http://cambriacofair.com/19___arts__crafts__photos I call your attention to the Digital Manipulation categories. Taken literally, it seems impossible to shoot digital without ending up in the Digital Manipulation categories, especially if you shoot raw. For example: 26. Single or Multiple Images - The creation of an improved image through the use of computer tools Well, debayering a raw file certainly improves it. So does using computer tools to choose a suitable 8x10 cropping, as required by the rules. I've even been known to improve an image by picking black and white points with my computer tools. But even worse: 28. Tonal/Colorization - Black White, Sepia, or Color saturation of a digital photograph to increase visual dynamics to the viewer. I take this to mean that any digital BW conversion lands you in the Digital Manipulation ghetto, instead of, say, BW Portrait. Maybe we'll just enter the Trail Mix competition... that one's only $3.50. If you made it this far, here's a bonus gallery with better shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157607029365140/ No rant for this festival, except for the $8 chicken-on-a-stick. Those are fun pix. Looks like a typical county fall fair. Folksy and family-oriented. You captured the atmosphere very well indeed. As for the rules for the photography competition, it looks very much like it's basically one set of categories for film #1-24) and another for digital (#26-30). I can't imagine but that eventually the film categories will wither and die from lack of entries, or that the first 24 categories will eventually be for digital and film will have it's own small niche. Or something like that. Sounds like maybe they're just a couple of years behind the times. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:58 AM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe you're taking it wrongly. It looks like there are ADDITIONAL categories for obviously manipulated digital images. You can enter your mundane prints in any of the categories either BW or Color (or all of them if you have enough prints and money) I'm taking it literally. They do not make a distinction between routine and excessive manipulation. There is no list of permitted manipulations for the ordinary categories, nor any generic statement of intent. Anything I do to the raw file is literally the production of an improved image through the use of computer tools, which is the criterion for digital ghetto category. Even if I shot JPEG, the computer tools inside the camera would be producing an improved image relative to what came off the sensor. Seriously, I'm sure you're correctly judging the *intent* of the rules. I would also guess that they mean what you think they mean. But rules should be written in a way that makes sense, not a way that requires you to read the mind of the person writing them--otherwise, what is the point of writing them down? If certain routine digital manipulations are permissible, then those should be called out, with something like this: The following digital manipulations are permissible in Categories 1-X: - Cropping - Sharpening - Exposure, levels, and curves adjustment - Color balance adjustment to achieve a realistic appearance - Saturation adjustment (including desaturation for BW categories, only moderate adjustment for color categories) - Noise reduction ... etc., depending on the preferences of the judges Images with manipulations not listed above shall be entered in the Digital Manipulations categories X+1 through N. I'll probably just enter some pictures in the regular color BW categories, and as you say, the judges and everyone else will be fine with it. But the little voice in my head will yelling at me the whole time, telling me that I'm violating the rules. You can see how hard it is to be an engineer stuck in the real world. At least I'm not a lawyer... I'd be just as literal, but I'd also be suing them over it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But rules should be written in a way that makes sense, not a way that requires you to read the mind of the person writing them--otherwise, what is the point of writing them down? snip MARK!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You can see how hard it is to be an engineer stuck in the real world. At least I'm not a lawyer... I'd be just as literal, but I'd also be suing them over it. snip Geez, two good ones in one post. MARK!!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
Matthew Hunt wrote: But rules should be written in a way that makes sense, not a way that requires you to read the mind of the person writing them--otherwise, what is the point of writing them down? Good point. If certain routine digital manipulations are permissible, then those should be called out, with something like this: The following digital manipulations are permissible in Categories 1-X: - Cropping - Sharpening - Exposure, levels, and curves adjustment - Color balance adjustment to achieve a realistic appearance - Saturation adjustment (including desaturation for BW categories, only moderate adjustment for color categories) - Noise reduction ... etc., depending on the preferences of the judges Images with manipulations not listed above shall be entered in the Digital Manipulations categories X+1 through N. Ah, but here you go against your own proposal that rules should be written in a way that makes sense, because 99% of the public wouldn't understand any of that. It's a no-win situation. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 137 - GDG
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey: All puns aside, that's a very nice abstract. Cheers, Christine I agree with Christine! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but here you go against your own proposal that rules should be written in a way that makes sense, because 99% of the public wouldn't understand any of that. Yeah, but when their eyes glaze over, the rulebook will become functionally identical to its current incarnation, and we're no worse off. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to research the definition of granola for that Trail Mix competition. I only have 11 months to work on my formula. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Drop Your Crocs !
Another of my curious signs from Maui: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711343 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but when their eyes glaze over, the rulebook will become functionally identical to its current incarnation, and we're no worse off.snip Mark, You seem to be on this thread just now anyway. I think there's more fodder in Matthew's few posts today than I've seen in a while, from anyone! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
frank theriault wrote: As for the rules for the photography competition, it looks very much like it's basically one set of categories for film #1-24) and another for digital (#26-30). I can't imagine but that eventually the film categories will wither and die from lack of entries, or that the first 24 categories will eventually be for digital and film will have it's own small niche. Rules for digital photo competitions can be really troublesome to get right. We had a lot of discussion about the rules when the GFM Nature Photography Weekend photo contest went digital. We stuck with film for longer than most people probably expected, just to make sure as many people as possible were really up to speed with digital before we did so. And at GFM, we have the advantage of dealing with people who are pretty serious about their photography, so are well above the average knowledge level of the general public. I imagine running a County Fair photo contest, attracting a lot of point-and-click type shooters could be a real nightmare. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sneer
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh, and it's a good picture too. He loses a lot of punk points, though, for playing a sushi restaurant. Thanks. BTW, the sushi restaurant is shut down and for rent. Does he get 1/2 a point back? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sneer
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, he looks like a poster boy for much of today's society. Nicely exposed, Frank What he looks is a bit old to be a punk. I mean it may be okay if yer 18 years old, but this guy's getting a bit long-in-the-tooth for this sort of thing IMHO... Thanks, Jack. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sneer
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good edgy feel to the shot, Frank. Excellent rendering. Cheers, Christine Thanks, Christine, and thanks to everyone else who commented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sneer
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:03 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 05:07:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Sneer On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:54 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loud, obnoxious, swearing, spitting, sneering. Looks like some one did'nt enjoy the 90's scene.:-) Dave ?? Punk was two decades before that for me. You _really_ should have used less acid in the 60s. Yes, i suppose i should have. To late now. Dave However, the lead singer was an interesting study. Sadly, both the background and foreground weren't particularly pleasing, but with a heavy crop I managed to get this one of him: Good shot Frank, with hte crop here, the back ground looks ok. http://tinyurl.com/596qpn http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SL027fHfIXI/C9w/5y9MgYa8UFg/s1600-h/sept_02_08+006.jpg I just wish I'd have had earplugs. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
Our fair has a contes, that i have been entering since i stopped working out of town, so around 2001. There is a Obvious manipulation catagory, in digital, but we can do minor adjustments, as in the GFM contest. Some levels curves etc to bring out a properly exposed photo is acceptable. Not adding or deleting stuff, removing dust and crops are ok,etc. My entries this year are 21 images in BW, colour or digital catagories. Cost is $10.00 to enter and free entry to the fair. Oh and i will be entering a sudo BW shot in a colour catagory. Seems ok in the past. Dave On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So last weekend, the wife and I went to the local county fair, for the first time since moving back here. If I point you to my meager gallery, can I get away with a rant? http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157607060568138/ Anyway, we learned that if you submit something for competition, you get in free. It occurred to me that paying $8 to enter the photography contest and get in free is at least as good as paying $8 at the gate just to get in. And I just might beat the people who have the date burned in red digits on their pictures, not to mention the folks who entered color photographs in the BW categories (true!). So I look up the entry guidelines, which are here: http://cambriacofair.com/19___arts__crafts__photos I call your attention to the Digital Manipulation categories. Taken literally, it seems impossible to shoot digital without ending up in the Digital Manipulation categories, especially if you shoot raw. For example: 26. Single or Multiple Images - The creation of an improved image through the use of computer tools Well, debayering a raw file certainly improves it. So does using computer tools to choose a suitable 8x10 cropping, as required by the rules. I've even been known to improve an image by picking black and white points with my computer tools. But even worse: 28. Tonal/Colorization - Black White, Sepia, or Color saturation of a digital photograph to increase visual dynamics to the viewer. I take this to mean that any digital BW conversion lands you in the Digital Manipulation ghetto, instead of, say, BW Portrait. Maybe we'll just enter the Trail Mix competition... that one's only $3.50. If you made it this far, here's a bonus gallery with better shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157607029365140/ No rant for this festival, except for the $8 chicken-on-a-stick. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rules for digital photo competitions can be really troublesome to get right. We had a lot of discussion about the rules when the GFM Nature Photography Weekend photo contest went digital. We stuck with film for longer than most people probably expected, just to make sure as many people as possible were really up to speed with digital before we did so. And at GFM, we have the advantage of dealing with people who are pretty serious about their photography, so are well above the average knowledge level of the general public. I imagine running a County Fair photo contest, attracting a lot of point-and-click type shooters could be a real nightmare. Most people that I know, even snapshooters (especially snapshooters!) are digital these days. Geez, I just saw ads for bottom of the line Sanyo and Sony 6 meg zoom ps cams for like $70! That's like about the cost of 3 or 4 rolls of colour including processing? For something like a county fair, they should just have categories for amateur and pro. Or maybe amateur, advanced amateur and pro. Leave it to the integrity of the entrants to classify themselves. Forget about separate categories for film and digital. They should make it about the photographs, not the camera type. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
I guess that would depend on the chickens attitude... frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip No rant for this festival, except for the $8 chicken-on-a-stick. Doesn't sound like too much fun for the chickens... cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:26 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people that I know, even snapshooters (especially snapshooters!) are digital these days. Geez, I just saw ads for bottom of the line Sanyo and Sony 6 meg zoom ps cams for like $70! That's like about the cost of 3 or 4 rolls of colour including processing? For something like a county fair, they should just have categories for amateur and pro. Or maybe amateur, advanced amateur and pro. Leave it to the integrity of the entrants to classify themselves. Forget about separate categories for film and digital. They should make it about the photographs, not the camera type. cheers, frank Markham has colour, BW, and digital. Also Jr, Sr. and Open, which is anyone over the age of 13, i believe. Only stipulation to enter is not to have more than 50% of your income from photography, which i suppose makes you a pro. We get some pretty goo photos, and a lot more lately, now that the area is being developed. Still lots of photos with dates on them,.:-) Dave Dave -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but here you go against your own proposal that rules should be written in a way that makes sense, because 99% of the public wouldn't understand any of that. Yeah, but when their eyes glaze over, the rulebook will become functionally identical to its current incarnation, and we're no worse off. Actually, that would be the opposite of its current incarnation: As it is now, the 99-percentile point-n-shooters understand it and the remaining 1% serious amateurs can, as Frank demonstrated, deduce what is *meant*. With technically detailed rules, sophisticated photographers like you and Frank are no better off and the other 99% of the public is worse off. In short, they got it pretty well right for the vast majority of their likely participants. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Drop Your Crocs !
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Another of my curious signs from Maui: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711343 Does anyone else think crocs look like they should be recycled /before/ you wear them? -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 50-500 f/4-f/6.3
Small, sharpened jpegs, but perhaps this will help: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=27330985 Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The reason behind weather sealing :)
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2823032764/ Yes, that's her Pentax K200D and she's in love with it :D Why is that woman liking the camera? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 139 - GDG
An apartment's entrance door in Peel. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/139-entrance.jpg Entrance Door - Isle of Man 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 ISO 400 @ f/5.6 @ 1/100 sec, fl=14mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Hector
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice Frank. Dave, Christina, Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
From: frank theriault Most people that I know, even snapshooters (especially snapshooters!) are digital these days. Geez, I just saw ads for bottom of the line Sanyo and Sony 6 meg zoom ps cams for like $70! That's like about the cost of 3 or 4 rolls of colour including processing? I hate them. They take crappy snapshots. You can do better with disposable film cameras. The problem is they all offer ONLY live view for composing the picture; no view finder. So you end up with the camera focused willy-nilly without regard to the subject, and motion blur out the wazoo from holding the thing out at arms length; especially indoors. I run a mini-lab. It's a digital hybrid with kiosks where the customer can enter their digital images and get RA4 process color prints. Most of what I get is crap anyway - it's all young girls taking the same pictures over and over again. Group of girls in nice party dresses all squeezed in cheek to cheek. Same group of girls at table in some club with umbrella drinks. Endless succession of various drunken louts they've met at the club. Rinse repeat. I give them the best prints I can, even though the subject matter doesn't deserve it, and actual image quality I have to work with is usually pretty low. Comes from trying to squeeze the maximum number of images on the memory card instead of just buying another card and setting the camera to the best quality it can produce. Every once in a while I get a heart breaker. I had a customer yesterday with 300 some images of a once in a lifetime cruise of the Greek Isles out of Istanbul, with the Blue Mosque thrown in for good measure. She took a 8 mega-pixel digital point 'n shoot with Live View; a package deal including a 512MB SD card at a cost less than $100. More than half the images were motion blurred, back focused or otherwise impossible to get a good print from because her camera ONLY has live view for composing images. For something like a county fair, they should just have categories for amateur and pro. Or maybe amateur, advanced amateur and pro. Leave it to the integrity of the entrants to classify themselves. Forget about separate categories for film and digital. They should make it about the photographs, not the camera type. cheers, frank Categories should define the rigor of judging criteria. The amateur who wants to be judged by pro standards should be able to compete in that category, although I guess it's not fair to let actual pros into the amateur category. Don't know how I'd enforce that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
John Sessoms wrote: From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/03 Wed PM 06:11:50 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - good Olympic gallery This caught my eye - takes a minute to load the pics, all on one page but some classics... http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle ry_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1/ Access has been blocked because: Prohibited by URL database (Pornography Adult Material) So now I'm wondering...What does VKMag stand for? There wasn't any porn that I saw, but the URL wrapped in Cotty's message. If you aren't ready to paste the second line into the address, you get a random photo. First time, I got one of some body builder/pro-wrestler type sandwiched between two honeys in bikinis. Try this URL: http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/gallery_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1 The photography seemed to focus on grotesque or somewhat risqué moments. The image host is something called totally crap which is probably what triggered the nanny software. There are some other interesting Olympic pictures located on the host: http://content2.totallycrap.com/content2008/galleries/com_amnesty_olympic_games/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Drop Your Crocs !
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Another of my curious signs from Maui: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711343 Does anyone else think crocs look like they should be recycled /before/ you wear them? The foamy plastic ones all the kids wear ARE recycled; the material is recycled plastic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Drop Your Crocs !
Does anyone else think crocs look like they should be recycled /before/ you wear them? yes. yes I do. rg2 On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:00 PM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Another of my curious signs from Maui: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711343 Does anyone else think crocs look like they should be recycled /before/ you wear them? The foamy plastic ones all the kids wear ARE recycled; the material is recycled plastic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Drop Your Crocs !
John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Another of my curious signs from Maui: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7711343 Does anyone else think crocs look like they should be recycled /before/ you wear them? The foamy plastic ones all the kids wear ARE recycled; the material is recycled plastic. Then perhaps recycled again though redundant, fits my thoughts better... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - She Just Talks and Talks and Talks...
Excellent! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 04 September 2008 13:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - She Just Talks and Talks and Talks... You'll have to scroll down a bit for today's photo: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/she-just-talks-a nd-talks-and-talks.html Other than the reactions of the passengers, I love the leering meerkats on the wall... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
No rant for this festival, except for the $8 chicken-on-a-stick. Doesn't sound like too much fun for the chickens... cheers, frank I should introduce you to some of the chickens I know. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:50 PM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate them. They take crappy snapshots. You can do better with disposable film cameras. The problem is they all offer ONLY live view for composing the picture; no view finder. So you end up with the camera focused willy-nilly without regard to the subject, and motion blur out the wazoo from holding the thing out at arms length; especially indoors. I run a mini-lab. It's a digital hybrid with kiosks where the customer can enter their digital images and get RA4 process color prints. Most of what I get is crap anyway - it's all young girls taking the same pictures over and over again. Group of girls in nice party dresses all squeezed in cheek to cheek. Same group of girls at table in some club with umbrella drinks. Endless succession of various drunken louts they've met at the club. Rinse repeat. I give them the best prints I can, even though the subject matter doesn't deserve it, and actual image quality I have to work with is usually pretty low. Comes from trying to squeeze the maximum number of images on the memory card instead of just buying another card and setting the camera to the best quality it can produce. Every once in a while I get a heart breaker. I had a customer yesterday with 300 some images of a once in a lifetime cruise of the Greek Isles out of Istanbul, with the Blue Mosque thrown in for good measure. She took a 8 mega-pixel digital point 'n shoot with Live View; a package deal including a 512MB SD card at a cost less than $100. More than half the images were motion blurred, back focused or otherwise impossible to get a good print from because her camera ONLY has live view for composing images. My partner Judy has such a point and shoot, and I have to agree with much of what you say. Her's is several years old, an Oly with about 4 megapixels (for whatever that's worth). Only a live-view screen, no viewfinder. Many of her photos were out of focus, and I discovered from looking at the manual that there's only one focus-point for the AF: dead centre! And, as you said, holding the thing at arm's length makes it really hard to hold it still. Add to all that the fact that the highest ISO is something like 120 (I think the lowest is about 60, but no manual override) and even in shade on a sunny day lots of shots are blurry. Poor thing (Judy, not the camera) tries her best to hold it still; looking at some shots that were only slightly soft, I've been surprised to see some shutter speeds of as low as 1/10 of a second, shot outdoors. She (on my advice) disables the flash because it makes results worse. My other complaint about that thing is that except in macro, the damned lens is so wide (I guess due to the microchip-sized sensor) that the dof is incredibly wide. ~Everything~ is sharp on most shots (or everything's blurry - you know what I mean). There's absolutely no separation between subjects and background. She so needs a decent body (hopefully she'll have one soon). When she shoots with my camera, even with everything on green, the difference in her photos is incredible. So, yes, I agree with your assessment of cheap digi-ps cams. They're crap for anyone more than the most casual shooter - and even then not likely good enough. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - good Olympic gallery
This caught my eye - takes a minute to load the pics, all on one page but some classics... http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle ry_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1/ Access has been blocked because: Prohibited by URL database (Pornography Adult Material) So now I'm wondering...What does VKMag stand for? seems to be a Dutch lad mag of some sort. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: BW help with digital
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question - What procedure is ideal to get best possible BW print from color raw or JPEG ? I have photoshop element 5.0 and epson 2200. Thank you in advance. I think I've only printed one BW since I've gone digital (everything else has been for the internet), but I use the BW Plus plug-in that others have mentioned, and I'm pretty happy with the results on a screen. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise
Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in Seney National Wildlife Refuge, in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with: K20D, 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, 1/100 sec, f8.0, 1600 ISO. Bogen mini-gear head on Bogen 3221 tripod. Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Family album :)
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You asked for it: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2560389623_d5008bed73_b.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/sengster/2560389623/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2544286827_599d02c597_o.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/sengster/2544286827/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/2658722548_95221e900c_o.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/paul_robinson/2658722548/ These are just a few of the shots of me taken by some mates. You have no one to blame but yourself. This guy should be arrested, whoever he is: http://tinyurl.com/5f3w6y http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHtMQdK49SI/Cno/rzhCgp7_pIA/s1600-h/july_14_08+004.jpg cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in Seney National Wildlife Refuge, in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with: K20D, 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, 1/100 sec, f8.0, 1600 ISO. Bogen mini-gear head on Bogen 3221 tripod. Comments appreciated. That's about perfect. Love the reflection in the still water, love the mist around the trees, colours and light are perfect. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Family album :)
frank theriault wrote: This guy should be arrested, whoever he is: http://tinyurl.com/5f3w6y http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHtMQdK49SI/Cno/rzhCgp7_pIA/s1600-h/july_14_08+004.jpg You mean his name isn't Chester? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise
Sure is striking, Ken. I like your choice of allowing the clouds to fade to a point on the right. Horizon well placed. Terrific exposure! Jack --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 12:17 PM Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in Seney National Wildlife Refuge, in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with: K20D, 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, 1/100 sec, f8.0, 1600 ISO. Bogen mini-gear head on Bogen 3221 tripod. Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Family album :)
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: This guy should be arrested, whoever he is: http://tinyurl.com/5f3w6y http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHtMQdK49SI/Cno/rzhCgp7_pIA/s1600-h/july_14_08+004.jpg You mean his name isn't Chester? All I can say is that the photo was ~not~ taken by me. As you can see, it's well-composed, in focus and not tilted... ;-) Actually, it was taken by my 15 year old daughter Claire during one of her visits to me here in Toronto. It ~was~ a Pentax shot... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:25:58PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: [My partner Judy] needs a decent body (hopefully she'll have one soon). You are so in trouble now ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
On 4/9/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Truncating the URL to vkmag.com, it looked like an online bastard child of FHM and Mad magazine with sophomoric gross-out humor (or humour) and gratuitous sex. Was there a subscription page that you saw? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Google Chrome Browser
On 4/9/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: American English. Oh pulease. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Extreme sport event @ parking house STOCKMANN
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=actionsportblog=20080830160235 ^^^ Pentax K20D never missed a focus even with DA 50-200mm tele zoom but 3fps is when I missed drop bodies of parkour extremists. Pentax gotta boost frame rate for their next body and for the sake of resolution I didn't want to shoot at 21fps low-rez burst mode. TAV has proved again to be very useful mode here. Very cool pix! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On 4/9/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Most of what I get is crap anyway - it's all young girls taking the same pictures over and over again. Group of girls in nice party dresses all squeezed in cheek to cheek. Er, I'm free Saturday mornings... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:25:58PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: [My partner Judy] needs a decent body (hopefully she'll have one soon). You are so in trouble now ... On another re-reading of my post, especially the line in question, I have to agree: You're right. Looks like the couch again tonight... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Food Court Courting
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank: The lady on the left really makes the picture. Great rendering as usual. Enjoyed your picture here! Cheers, Christine I forgot to thank everybody for commenting. So I will now. Thanks to everybody for commenting! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise
That's very dramatic and striking! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Waller Sent: 04 September 2008 20:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in Seney National Wildlife Refuge, in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with: K20D, 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, 1/100 sec, f8.0, 1600 ISO. Bogen mini-gear head on Bogen 3221 tripod. Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Family album :)
I think the mounties and Homeland Security have him on their watch list... frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You asked for it: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2560389623_d5008bed73_b.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/sengster/2560389623/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2544286827_599d02c597_o.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/sengster/2544286827/ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/2658722548_95221e900c_o.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/paul_robinson/2658722548/ These are just a few of the shots of me taken by some mates. You have no one to blame but yourself. This guy should be arrested, whoever he is: http://tinyurl.com/5f3w6y http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SHtMQdK49SI/Cno/rzhCgp7_pIA/s1600-h/july_14_08+004.jpg cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:25:58PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: [My partner Judy] needs a decent body (hopefully she'll have one soon). You are so in trouble now ... Only if she reads this list... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Medieval town with some photoshoppery
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080904231837 ↑↑↑ I've done many things recently that I never bothered to do before. One of them is gimpography (photoshoppery) to add some dramatical touches to normally descent photos. I won't sow you input images but your comments on outcome are appreciated. Pentax K20D + Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: K10D at 1100 ISO is actually usable!
Oddly enough, at the pixel level it can look kinda gross. But when you bring them down to web size it's actually not bad. Much better than I expected. I shot a concert on Tuesday night and the most-used lens in my arsenal was the lowly Takumar Bayonet 135 f/2.5. I couldn't believe how much I kept going back to it. The only downside is that I'd really like something as small and usable but at about half the focal length - is there anything (affordable) like that out there? An example shot: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/ProVention/content/IMGP3522_large.html 1/30 sec, f2.5 @ 135 mm ISO 1100 Thank goodness for the Katz-Eye or NONE of them would have been in focus. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: gatherings
If we have a London PDML I will try to join. How about doing it in Richmond, which is a very nice place? Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlunFoto Sent: 04 September 2008 12:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: gatherings I'll have these weeknights in London: 17.09 - 18.09 22.10 03.12 - 04.12 There'll be more after Christmas, but dates are somewhat wobbly. Jostein 2008/9/3 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/9/08, Rebekah, discombobulated, unleashed: yeah, so anyone want to visit Germany a few months from now? door's always open! That's a generous offer Rebekah. Here's one for you: pop across to London and we'll do a London PDML - not had one for a while :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 04:34:00PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:25:58PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: [My partner Judy] needs a decent body (hopefully she'll have one soon). You are so in trouble now ... On another re-reading of my post, especially the line in question, I have to agree: You're right. Looks like the couch again tonight... You're just digging yourself in deeper ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
David J Brooks wrote: Oh and i will be entering a sudo BW shot in a colour catagory. Wow, that's pretty tough, requiring administrator credentials to enter the B+W category. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: A cyclist who pedalled the world for more than 40 years has been killed by a hit-and-run driver
Sad story, but an interesting life: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4673693.ece Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K10D at 1100 ISO is actually usable!
Nice shot. The DA 70 limited is close to affordable. But maybe you should invest in the DA*50-135/2.8. It's as sharp and as fast as most primes, and the price has come down a bit. I think you can get one for about $700. Of course it's not particularly small A zoom is ideal for events where you can't be sure how close you can get. It's my most used lens. Of couse it's not a mini like that DA 70, but for other than really big glass, I find size irrelevant. Paul -- Original message -- From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oddly enough, at the pixel level it can look kinda gross. But when you bring them down to web size it's actually not bad. Much better than I expected. I shot a concert on Tuesday night and the most-used lens in my arsenal was the lowly Takumar Bayonet 135 f/2.5. I couldn't believe how much I kept going back to it. The only downside is that I'd really like something as small and usable but at about half the focal length - is there anything (affordable) like that out there? An example shot: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/ProVention/content/IMGP3522_large.h tml 1/30 sec, f2.5 @ 135 mm ISO 1100 Thank goodness for the Katz-Eye or NONE of them would have been in focus. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise
Ken, Excellent landscape photo. I especially like the fog(?) running thru the picture. The sky and reflection add to the whole effect, and the shorter/distant trees to the right increase the depth along with the clouds making an arrow into the distance. (Not to shabby with a tricky sunset exposure either!) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in Seney National Wildlife Refuge, in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with: K20D, 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, 1/100 sec, f8.0, 1600 ISO. Bogen mini-gear head on Bogen 3221 tripod. Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K10D at 1100 ISO is actually usable!
M 85mm f2 lens might work for you... Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice shot. The DA 70 limited is close to affordable. But maybe you should invest in the DA*50-135/2.8. It's as sharp and as fast as most primes, and the price has come down a bit. I think you can get one for about $700. Of course it's not particularly small A zoom is ideal for events where you can't be sure how close you can get. It's my most used lens. Of couse it's not a mini like that DA 70, but for other than really big glass, I find size irrelevant. Paul -- Original message -- From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oddly enough, at the pixel level it can look kinda gross. But when you bring them down to web size it's actually not bad. Much better than I expected. I shot a concert on Tuesday night and the most-used lens in my arsenal was the lowly Takumar Bayonet 135 f/2.5. I couldn't believe how much I kept going back to it. The only downside is that I'd really like something as small and usable but at about half the focal length - is there anything (affordable) like that out there? An example shot: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/ProVention/content/IMGP3522_large.h tml 1/30 sec, f2.5 @ 135 mm ISO 1100 Thank goodness for the Katz-Eye or NONE of them would have been in focus. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D at 1100 ISO is actually usable!
- Original Message - From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/ProVention/content/IMGP3522_large.html 1/30 sec, f2.5 @ 135 mm ISO 1100 Charles: Those shots are quite nice. I especially like http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/ProVention/content/IMGP3684_large.html and http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/ProVention/content/IMGP3849_large.html Rick Womer has posted some shots at really high ISOs using the K10D and has had excellent success as well. Nice job with your concert gallery, Charles. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - She Just Talks and Talks and Talks...
That's a great one, Frank! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: PESO - She Just Talks and Talks and Talks... You'll have to scroll down a bit for today's photo: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/she-just-talks-and-talks-and-talks.html Other than the reactions of the passengers, I love the leering meerkats on the wall... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise
Lovely, Ken! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:17 PM Subject: PESO - Striking Seney Summer Sunrise Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken in Seney National Wildlife Refuge, in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with: K20D, 28-80mm 3.5-4.5 SMC Pentax F, 1/100 sec, f8.0, 1600 ISO. Bogen mini-gear head on Bogen 3221 tripod. Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4/9/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Truncating the URL to vkmag.com, it looked like an online bastard child of FHM and Mad magazine with sophomoric gross-out humor (or humour) and gratuitous sex. Was there a subscription page that you saw? I don't know. It was all in Dutch and I only recognized a few words from their English counterparts. I couldn't tell you if there's an actual print magazine or not. I bounced through a few articles the photos that went with them which is what gave me the impression of a FHM/Mad Magazine cross. Naked/scantily clad women are still naked or scantily clad irregardless of what language the magazine is written in. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A cyclist who pedalled the world for more than 40 years has beenkilled by a hit-and-run driver
What a helluva adventurer, and what a sad way to end his adventures and life's journey. Christine - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: OT: A cyclist who pedalled the world for more than 40 years has beenkilled by a hit-and-run driver Sad story, but an interesting life: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4673693.ece Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K10D at 1100 ISO is actually usable!
On Sep 4, 2008, at 17:10, Bob Sullivan wrote: M 85mm f2 lens might work for you... Regards, Bob S. Oh yeah? Drop me a line in email and let's talk. :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A cyclist who pedalled the world for more than 40 years has been killed by a hit-and-run driver
Bob W wrote: Sad story, but an interesting life: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4673693.ece Wow. Right on both counts. Sad and interesting. And he was from Brixham! When I was a kid we lived in Kingswear, just a few miles away and my Grandmother lived in Brixham for a while. Visited her there a few times. (Bonus points for anyone who can name a famous historical figure associated with Brixham.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Google Chrome Browser
Cotty wrote: On 4/9/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: American English. Oh pulease. -- American English sounds like an oxymoron to me :-) anninamerica Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: A cyclist who pedalled the world for more than 40 years hasbeen killed by a hit-and-run driver
Bob W wrote: Sad story, but an interesting life: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4673693.ece Wow. Right on both counts. Sad and interesting. And he was from Brixham! When I was a kid we lived in Kingswear, just a few miles away and my Grandmother lived in Brixham for a while. Visited her there a few times. (Bonus points for anyone who can name a famous historical figure associated with Brixham.) Mr. Potato Head? Wikipedia tells me that teenage football player Dan Gosling, of Plymouth Argyle was born and raised in Brixham, and is the fourth-youngest player to have ever played for Plymouth Argyle aged 16 and 310 days. If he's not famous and historical I don't know who is. My 3rd guess is Sir Walter Raleigh, followed closely by Francis (Fuck off, I'm playing bowls) Drake. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Oh and i will be entering a sudo BW shot in a colour catagory. Wow, that's pretty tough, requiring administrator credentials to enter the B+W category. ;-) I know people in low places, and Cotty to. Dave -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - good Olympic gallery
Those are really neat. The Fencing produced some very interesting images. ...the beach volleyball too :-) Cheers, Dave 2008/9/4 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This caught my eye - takes a minute to load the pics, all on one page but some classics... http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle ry_olympische_spelen_2008_in_fotos_part_1/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: K10D at 1100 ISO is actually usable!
I find size irrelevant. Mark! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: K10D at 1100 ISO is actually usable! Nice shot. The DA 70 limited is close to affordable. But maybe you should invest in the DA*50-135/2.8. It's as sharp and as fast as most primes, and the price has come down a bit. I think you can get one for about $700. Of course it's not particularly small A zoom is ideal for events where you can't be sure how close you can get. It's my most used lens. Of couse it's not a mini like that DA 70, but for other than really big glass, I find size irrelevant. Paul -- Original message -- From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oddly enough, at the pixel level it can look kinda gross. But when you bring them down to web size it's actually not bad. Much better than I expected. I shot a concert on Tuesday night and the most-used lens in my arsenal was the lowly Takumar Bayonet 135 f/2.5. I couldn't believe how much I kept going back to it. The only downside is that I'd really like something as small and usable but at about half the focal length - is there anything (affordable) like that out there? An example shot: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/ProVention/content/IMGP3522_large.h tml 1/30 sec, f2.5 @ 135 mm ISO 1100 Thank goodness for the Katz-Eye or NONE of them would have been in focus. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A cyclist who pedalled the world for more than 40 years has beenkilled by a hit-and-run driver
Sadly, what a waste! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: A cyclist who pedalled the world for more than 40 years has beenkilled by a hit-and-run driver Sad story, but an interesting life: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4673693.ece Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Google Chrome Browser
ann sanfedele wrote: American English sounds like an oxymoron to me :-) An oxymoron created by a bunch of regular morons. ;- -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Rant: County Fair and the Digital Ghetto
On Sep 4, 2008, at 13:20 , frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She so needs a decent body (hopefully she'll have one soon). When she shoots with my camera, even with everything on green, the difference in her photos is incredible. Any decent man would have gotten his partner a decent camera before the first year was up. :-) Might I suggest an 8 megapixel Pentax PS like the Z-10? Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
