GESO, Hellyer Park

2009-03-23 Thread Larry Colen
A couple of days ago I noticed a tree set off againsf flowers on a
hillside near my office.

Today, a little before sunset, I took some time to go back and shoot
it. While I was there I noticed a tree and a puddle in Hellyer park
and took some pictures of them.

As it turns out, none of the shots of the first tree turned out very
well. These were all shot with my K100Ds and my 18-250.

Landscapes are harder than they seem.

thumbnails
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157615698160017/

All 7 at 500 pixels wide:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157615698160017/

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RE: Fat Feddy's Cat

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Mitchell
Is this where I say HAR?

Chris

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 On 22/3/09, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Yes, Sorry Joseph (and Anne too) - managed to start a new thread 
 instead of
 adding to Cotty's original. I'll gt the hang of it one day...
 
 Bit like the guitar ;-)
 
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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/22/2009 10:42:37 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
ramar...@mac.com writes:
Walking downtown after dark  ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg
Barber  Chairs - Palo Alto 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
ISO 800  @ f/2 @ 1/30 sec

enjoy
Godfrey


I really like  that, Godfrey. Good DOF, framing, composition. One of your 
better ones lately  (along with the red fence and green ivy).

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Re: storage media

2009-03-23 Thread Eactivist
Yeah! I found it. It had fallen into a dresser  drawer.

And it's still in its little plastic case. Heh. 

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RE: GESO, Hellyer Park

2009-03-23 Thread Bob W
 
 Landscapes are harder than they seem.

If photography was easy everybody would have a camera.

Bob

 
 A couple of days ago I noticed a tree set off againsf flowers on a
 hillside near my office.
 
 Today, a little before sunset, I took some time to go back and shoot
 it. While I was there I noticed a tree and a puddle in Hellyer park
 and took some pictures of them.
 
 As it turns out, none of the shots of the first tree turned out very
 well. These were all shot with my K100Ds and my 18-250.
 
 Landscapes are harder than they seem.
 
 thumbnails
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157615698160017/
 
 All 7 at 500 pixels wide:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157615698160017/
 


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RE: and speaking of youtube...

2009-03-23 Thread Bob W
 
 There is a very good profile of James Ravilious on there. He was a 
 regional photographer in Devon and his work is exquisite. The 
 show is a 
 little less than 30 minutes long.
 
 This was mentioned on The Online Photographer a couple weeks back:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYg8mxvUgJE
 

Saving that for later - thanks. I love his work. I have all of his books,
but haven't seen an exhibition of real prints yet, which is a treat I'm
looking forward to sometime.

Bob


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RE: PESO: progress

2009-03-23 Thread Bob W

 Wow. I'm truly honored to hear my work cast in such a light. 
 Thank you  
 all.
 
 I have looked around at Rodchenko briefly. I knew the name but have  
 not seen his work in depth. I'll have study him some more. 
 Inspiration  
 can come from many places... ! :-)
 
 Godfrey

This is the one I was thinking of:

http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=Mod_ViewBox.ViewBoxZoom_VPage;
VBID=2K1HZOYFX9CL2IT=ImageZoom01PN=27STM=TDTTM=ImageSP=AlbumIID=2S5RYD
Z0NDR3SAKL=TSGBT=TDT=Image

http://tinyurl.com/d8h47l

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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread Rick Womer

I like it.

Reminds me, I've gotta visit one of those this week (not that I make them work 
very hard...).

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com
 Subject: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG
 To: SeePhoto Talk seeph...@micapeak.com, PAW Picture-A-Week project 
 p...@micapeak.com, baphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PDML List 
 PDML@pdml.net, DUG digitalusersgr...@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 1:42 AM
 Walking downtown after dark ...
 
 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg
 Barber Chairs - Palo Alto 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
 ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/30 sec
 
 enjoy
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Re: PESO/GESO

2009-03-23 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks for your comments.
It turns out that the photo with magnolia:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/3374492352
got most votes.
Is it too simple, is not it?

Everybody seems to agree that one that I picked myself is too soft
(and bad overall, with focus not at the main subject, etc.)
Thanks for this feedback - I tried to achieve certain effect with this
shot and obviously failed - good to know :)

Thanks,
--Sasha


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 In a message dated 3/21/2009 10:00:17 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 sa...@asobol.com writes:
 I have spent few ours in  Filoli Gardens today.
 Unfortunately I can not capture the fragrance with my  camera.
 Here is a single photo I'd like to show (and have it commented  and
 criticized violently  :)
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/3373681635/

 Here is the  whole gallery -- in case you have time and  patience.
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157615644395225/

 Thanks,
 --Sasha

 
 Nice  gallery. I really like that red tulip, the bw trees against the wall,
 the  blue flower, and the magnolia (the whole flowers, not the buds). Very
 nice.

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RE: GESO - Watlington Walk

2009-03-23 Thread Rick Womer

Looking at Google Maps, one gets closest to Watlington at Benson if following 
the Thames, and that is 5.5 miles.

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 I guess I have to drop by Watlington Hill then. How far is
 it from the
 Thames? I need to do the next bit of my Thames walk soon,
 so perhaps I can
 make a detour, and I hope we'll also be able to catch
 up.
 
 Bob 
 
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  Subject: RE: GESO - Watlington Walk
  
  
  Bob,
  
  On Watlington Hill, there were about a dozen red kites
 
  soaring, diving, and playing around.  They were fun to
 watch.
  
  Rick
  
  
  --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Bob W
 p...@web-options.com wrote:
  
We took a ramble through the countryside
 around the
   small 
Oxfordshire town of Watlington yesterday. 
 It was
   fairly warm 
(~10C) and hazy, but beautiful.  The hedges
 are brown
   and 
most of the trees are still bare, but there
 are many
   signs of spring.

   
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=901814

   
   Jolly English. I'm envious of your red kite
 sighting.
   
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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

2009-03-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/3/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed:

No one notified me that Rover added an inch to the wheelbase. I'd be
embarrassed if it was ten years ago. What on earth did they need that
inch for?

1983 I'm afraid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender#Land_Rover_Ninety_.
26_One_Ten

The suspension went from leaf springs to coils.

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Re: Greenscreen / Chromakey

2009-03-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/3/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've looked over the shoulder of a still photographer shooting green-
screen, but it was so much like shooting video he was probably using
the same equipment. The monitor already showed the background, which
would be changed from time to time. The model was superimposed into
it, which made positioning very easy. I assume the merged file was
what was saved to disk. But it may have been safer to save both the
merged and the green-screen shots separately. It was cool...

Nice idea - sounds like a larger budget model shoot though. Anything's
possible if you throw money at it :-)

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Re: GESO, Hellyer Park

2009-03-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/23/2009 1:24:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
p...@web-options.com writes:

If photography was easy everybody would have a  camera.

Bob

=
Bob, everyone does have a camera.  ;-)

(Cell phone, PS, DSLR, SLR.)

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Re: Garden Gnome

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist

Your giggle pleases me greatly.
Paul
On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:59 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Cute!  You know, ever since seeing the movie The Full Monty when I  
see the words garden gnome,  I just start giggling--and when I see  
an actual gnome, well, I just--just giggle more.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: PESO: Garden Gnome



It was a tough winter in Michigan:
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PESO: Triangulation Two

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist

Sometimes it's just about the frame.
Click to make it larger.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823072
Paul

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Re: DA* 16-50/2.8 CA

2009-03-23 Thread William Robb


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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Subject: Re: DA* 16-50/2.8 CA




On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

My experience differs greatly, but then I've shot several thousand 
frames with the DA 16-50/2.8. I know it well.


LOL ... so you're saying the evidence of the several hundred frames I 
have, and the ten or twenty I examined carefully for CA and fringing 
after finding the ones with similar subject-against-sky that you 
presented, isn't real because of your faultless several thousand  frames? 
Even when I can see the fringing and light CA in the blurry  portions of 
your example image? ]:-)


Perhaps statistically your lens is a better performer.

I have the evidence right here. It's real: I'm reporting my  observations. 
There's nothing wrong with the lens, but it does show  both CA and 
fringing in the normal amounts I see from premium mid- range zoom lenses. 
At least my example did. It's not the most-CA-less  lens I've seen from 
Pentax by any means. This does not mean it is a  bad lens.


Paranoia or anti-paranoia ... I guess it makes just as much silliness 
whichever side of the fence you decide to be defensive about. ;-)




Its well documented that the 16-50 is all over the map for performance. I 
suspect with a lens as poorly put together as this one that decentering 
isn't going to be the only optical problem that manifests on one lens but 
not another.
A good 16-50, while rare, is a good lens, I suspect that most of them are 
pretty average performers, with some are just plain bad.


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Re: Greenscreen / Chromakey

2009-03-23 Thread William Robb


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From: Paul Stenquist

Subject: Re: Greenscreen / Chromakey


I've used green screen a lot in television production, but the 
compositing was always done in a Flame or other similar device. I  don't 
know if it's an advantage in PhotoShop compositing, but it might  be. As 
Cotty said, it's real worth comes into play when you have to  replace the 
background in 600 frames.


We do our chromakey stuff (we don't do much) off the white painted cyc wall 
in the studio. We don't have enough depth in our background to allow for 
green screening.


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Re: PESO: Triangulation Two

2009-03-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/3/09, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sometimes it's just about the frame.
Click to make it larger.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823072


I'll reserve judgement until I see the third ;-)
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PESO - Yoga Plus

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
I don't know why I thought this was funny, but I did:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html

Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:53 AM, frank theriault wrote:


I don't know why I thought this was funny, but I did:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html


I think it's funny too, but I wish you'd gotten his feet into the  
frame! :-)


Godfrey

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PESO: Triangulation Three

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist

Two triangles are better than one.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823351

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist

There is an amusing juxtaposition going on there. I like it.
Paul
On Mar 23, 2009, at 9:53 AM, frank theriault wrote:


I don't know why I thought this was funny, but I did:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html

Comments always welcome.

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PESO - Yoga Plus (version 2)

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
Godfrey didn't like the fact that I cut off the feet of the guy
waiting for the bus, so here is he, full body:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

as a point of comparison, here's the earlier, tighter crop:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html

Preference?

Like both?

Like neither?

As Boris says, be brutal!

;-)

And thanks in advance for your comments, and thanks for looking.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Triangulation Three

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Two triangles are better than one.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823351

Interesting study, Paul.  Unique composition!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Triangulation Two

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Sometimes it's just about the frame.
 Click to make it larger.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823072
 Paul

I like it!  Fun action shot.

cheers,
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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-23 Thread John Mullan
Assisting is probably the best way to get introduced to the business.  Let 
someone else deal with the details, you do the work and cash the check. 
Then see if it is where you want to be.  Hope you are feeling better.


jm
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Hey guys.  I've been under the weather the last few days and hadn't read 
anything until just now.


I, uh...

I've got a lot to learn.  Maybe I should see about being someone's 
assistant before I go out on my own.  Of course, I've already got a good 
chance of getting a wedding gig for later this year, but at least that 
gives me time to get my ducks in a row.


Thank you all for your input.  I'm more frightened than ever

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 2)

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:17 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Godfrey didn't like the fact that I cut off the feet of the guy
waiting for the bus, so here is he, full body:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

as a point of comparison, here's the earlier, tighter crop:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html


Yes! I like the new crop much more. I'd also crop in a bit tighter on  
the right hand side, keeping the pole with the handicapped sign but  
not much more.


To me, the tension in this photo is between the sign, the man's look  
and body posture, and the handicap sign. Those three elements  
juxtaposed creates the humor. ;-)


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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:26 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 The real problem with it is the CORPORATION's POLICY and copyright law.

 Somewhere, the CORPORATION has a POLICY that says the photolab will not
 reproduce copyright works or photos by professional photographers.

 The CORPORATION I work for has one.

 Ninety-nine and forty-four one hundredths percent of the time it ain't
 gonna' be no problem. But it only takes ONE TIME to fuck up the rest of your
 life.

 According to the DMCA copyright law, those photos are NOT the property of
 the bride and groom, they're the property of the photographer who took the
 photos. The DMCA copyright law is written so that the OWNER of the photolab
 equipment and the *OPERATOR* of the photolab are liable for the violation
 instead of the customer who uses the equipment.

 The DMCA copyright law allows the photographer to SUE THE PHOTOLAB and
 collect $500,000 per instance of copyright infringement; where each
 photograph printed is defined as one instance.

 The CORPORATION POLICY is there just in case a photographer does sue the
 photolab to enforce their copyright, the CORPORATION can use that POLICY to
 push all of the liability off onto the poor schlub running the equipment.

 Of course, if you're that poor schlub, you're between a rock and a hard
 place. If you follow the CORPORATION's POLICY and the customer complains,
 MANAGEMENT will shit all over you.

 You'll get at least a reprimand for pissing off the customer, and you might
 get fired for poor customer relations just for following the CORPORATION's
 POLICY.

 And if you don't follow the CORPORATON's POLICY, they can use that any time
 they want an excuse to fire you and leave you all alone to face the legal
 liabilities for violating the DMCA copyright law.

 Because the DMCA copyright law says the equipment OWNER and/or OPERATOR are
 the liable parties. The CORPORATION POLICY shields the company and leaves
 all the liability on the operator who didn't follow the CORPORATION POLICY.

 I have to walk a fine line all the time.

 As long as I don't KNOW the customer is violating the DMCA copyright law, I
 can ignore what they're doing. They can use that instant printing kiosk all
 day long and I won't interfere - as long as I can get away with denying I
 knew they were violating the DMCA copyright law, and plausibly claim I would
 have enforced the CORPORATION POLICY if only I had known.

 If the customer does something that forces me to acknowledge they're
 printing copyrighted images, like asking me to help them do so, I'll call
 the store manager, point out the relevant CORPORATION POLICY to the manager
 and leave the manager to explain to the customer why the photolab can't
 print their photos.

 And if the customer sends it through the one hour printer and it's got Olan
 Mills or Life Touch Studios or J.C. Penney's Studio or ANY OTHER copyright
 notice on the face of the image, I'll stop the job, and again I'm calling
 the manager over and dumping it off on him.

 He can deal with the customer when they come looking for their photos. He
 can explain the CORPORATION POLICY regarding copyrighted images.

 I'm fairly flexible. I don't balk at someone trying to copy their
 grand-parents portrait from the 20s, 30s or 40s. And I won't get bent out of
 shape over old school photos and such, even from the 50s, 60s or 70s. In
 fact, I'll use all the magic I can to get them something special.

 But I ain't touchin' anything printed on modern professional paper that has
 the copyright notice pre-printed or stamped on the back.

 And if a CD or DVD has the photographer's name on it or if the images have
 the photographer's name embedded in the image, they gotta have a release. It
 can be the first JPEG on the disc, that's the easiest way to do it from the
 lab's point of view, because I can see the release right there on the
 selection screen ... but they gotta have a release of some kind.

 I'm covering MY ass!

 Refusing to allow myself to be left holding the bag if a legal shit-storm
 descends on that photolab don't make me an idiot, sniveling or otherwise.

 They don't pay me enough for that kind of risk.

You've clearly been attending the JCO ONLINE SCHOOL OF INTERNET ETIQUETTE!!!

;-)

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 2)

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:


 Yes! I like the new crop much more. I'd also crop in a bit tighter on the
 right hand side, keeping the pole with the handicapped sign but not much
 more.

 To me, the tension in this photo is between the sign, the man's look and
 body posture, and the handicap sign. Those three elements juxtaposed creates
 the humor. ;-)

Thanks, Godfrey.  I was thinking of a square crop, which would have
ended right where you suggest, at the bus stop sign (all we can see is
the handicap portion at the bottom of that sign), but I thought that
the extra waiting riders put things more in a place.

However, maybe I'll do that square crop and see what you and others think.

Love this list!

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Re: PESO: Triangulation Two

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks. Now the challenge will be to make sure this doesn't end up  
being the oddfish of the set:-).

Paul
On Mar 23, 2009, at 10:26 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

Sometimes it's just about the frame.
Click to make it larger.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823072
Paul


I like it!  Fun action shot.

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PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

I'm torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and weak points to
each.  Your thoughts would be most helpful.

BTW, for reference, here's version 2:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

Thanks!

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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Walking downtown after dark ...

 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg
 Barber Chairs - Palo Alto 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
 ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/30 sec

I love it!

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Re: PESO - A couple of macro etudes

2009-03-23 Thread Christian

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

Thanks to a fellow list member, I've not FA 100/3.5 macro lens and some 
other items that should remain unnamed for now.


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-009.html

Have your brutal and honest say.

Boris


Those are actually quite beautiful, Boris.  I like the angle of the 
flowers and the composition.  They aren't run-of-the-mill straight-on 
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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 2)

2009-03-23 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

Godfrey didn't like the fact that I cut off the feet of the guy
waiting for the bus, so here is he, full body:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

as a point of comparison, here's the earlier, tighter crop:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html

Preference?


Feet/no feet, doesn't make any difference to me.  I like the shape of 
the yoga girl's body interlocked with the shape of the guy's 
head/back/backpack.



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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread Christian

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Walking downtown after dark ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg
Barber Chairs - Palo Alto 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/30 sec


Shhesh, G, give the rest of us some hope... :-) another winner

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 2)

2009-03-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Godfrey didn't like the fact that I cut off the feet of the guy
waiting for the bus, so here is he, full body:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

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Re: PESO/GESO

2009-03-23 Thread Charles Robinson

On Mar 23, 2009, at 4:02, Sasha Sobol wrote:


Thanks for your comments.
It turns out that the photo with magnolia:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/3374492352
got most votes.
Is it too simple, is not it?



Nothing wrong with simple.  I like that one!

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist

I like version two and three. I think I prefer two by a small margin.
On Mar 23, 2009, at 10:58 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

I'm torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and weak points to
each.  Your thoughts would be most helpful.

BTW, for reference, here's version 2:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

Thanks!

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:58 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
 a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
 suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

Yep.  I like number 3.  If she lets go of her foot, she'll kick that
guy right in the ass.

Good shot, Frank!

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Re: David Bowie, 1983

2009-03-23 Thread ann sanfedele



Christine Aguila wrote:

Well, the one Ann  Marnie picked out as their fav is also my fav.  
Funny that.  Lovely gallery, Charles.  Really enjoyed seeing that.  
Cheers, Christine 


I suppose we will have to find out what Amita thought of it :-)

ann






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Subject: PESO: David Bowie, 1983


Raiding the archives, slowly going through my boxes of slides.  Darn, 
that takes a long time.  3 hours for 60 slides!


From a concert back in May of 1983 in W. Germany.  Pentax K-1000,  
Takumar 135 f/2.5 lens @ f2.5, Ektachrome 200.


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/1983/bowie/content/Scan_090320_0004_large.html 



and, as always, the full gallery here for the gluttons:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/1983/bowie/index.html

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Re: PESO: The overseer

2009-03-23 Thread Christian

Timbah! wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3377279988/

He was watching others kiteing dragons :)

.timber



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Re: PESOs

2009-03-23 Thread Christian

Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

dunes:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3368344559_80fd8e3fda_o.jpg


I like the repeating patterns, but of course my first question is What 
is it?




karenina:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3369201418_bceb234ebb_o.jpg


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DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread William Robb
OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's a 
good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

Technical:
K20 @ ISO 640.
DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
1/40 second.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 028 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
Very good. I like the subtle changes in the reflection's.

Dave

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 I was shooting in downtown Palo Alto the other night as I made my way back
 to the car when I saw this image of my shadow. I snapped it as a spur of the
 moment thing. Today as I reviewed exposures from that evening, it popped out
 at me ...

 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/028-shadow.jpg
 Shadow - Palo Alto 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
 ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/6 second

 Your comments always appreciated. :-)

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Re: K20 Firmware

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 As far as I know nothing has changed since 1.01.

Its 9:30 here.

Dave

 On Mar 22, 2009, at 17:55 , Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I haven't noticed any difference resulting from firmware upgrades, but I'm
 not even sure I have the latest version. What number would that be?
 I certainly hope it wouldn't change focus behavior, as my camera is
 functioning very well as is.

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Re: PESO: progress

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
Cool shot.

Dave

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika
lukastr...@gmail.com wrote:
 a little tribute to rodchenko.

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3578/3377240694_520c19884c_o.jpg

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Re: GESO, Hellyer Park

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Landscapes are harder than they seem.

Try doing them at sea, even harder.:-)

Dave

 thumbnails
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 All 7 at 500 pixels wide:
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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
I can't put my finger on why, but i find it funny also.

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know why I thought this was funny, but I did:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html

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Re: PESO: Triangulation Three

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
Interesting crop. So far 1 and 2 speak to me.

Dave

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 Two triangles are better than one.
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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
Nice, the dof flows to the back nicely.

Dave

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Walking downtown after dark ...

 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg
 Barber Chairs - Palo Alto 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
 ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/30 sec

 enjoy
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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
This version is the one i like the best Frank.

Dave

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:58 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
 a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
 suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

 I'm torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and weak points to
 each.  Your thoughts would be most helpful.

 BTW, for reference, here's version 2:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

 Thanks!

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Re: K20 Firmware

2009-03-23 Thread William Robb
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com 
wrote:

As far as I know nothing has changed since 1.01.




Thanks guys. I was wondering if upgrading from the factory formware would 
make the 55/1.4 focus faster.

It looks like not.

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Re: PESO: The overseer

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice composition and tone.

I know what you mean about LR cloning.:-)

Dave

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3377279988/

 He was watching others kiteing dragons :)

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's a
 good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.

Your right, but its a pretty good sample shot non the less.

Dave

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

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Re: PESO: The overseer

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3377279988/

 He was watching others kiteing dragons :)

Lovely!

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's a
 good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

Certainly shows the capabilities of the lens.

He may not be pretty (to me, anyway) but it's really a very good portrait!

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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Christian wrote:


http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg


Shhesh, G, give the rest of us some hope... :-) another winner


LOL ... Ok, a self portrait should let you count your blessings:

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/029-self-portrait-home.jpg

]'-)

Thanks for the comments!

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Re: PESO - A couple of macro etudes

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Boris Liberman wrote:
Thanks to a fellow list member, I've got FA 100/3.5 macro lens and  
some other items that should remain unnamed for now.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-009.html
Have your brutal and honest say.


I think they go a little beyond etudes. Very nice, Boris. It's hard to  
be brutal. ;-)


Godfrey

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Bruce Walker

William Robb wrote:
OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's 
a good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

Technical:
K20 @ ISO 640.
DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
1/40 second.


*Very* nice indeed. This really shows the promise of that glass.

Sigh ... it's still not in stock anywhere in Canada that I can find; 
vendors are showing it as special order, or coming soon.  But even if it 
was in stock, nobody's advertising at other than full list.  And full 
list in Canada is $900 -- yikes!!


I'll be waiting a while for this gem I fear ...

-bmw

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent portrait! I really like this one. Although one can never  
judge such things fully on the web, the detail appears to be superb.


On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:42 AM, William Robb wrote:

OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but  
he's a good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

Technical:
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DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
1/40 second.

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus

2009-03-23 Thread Jack Davis

My thought, after looking at it for a couple minutes, was that those guys had 
thoroughly examined the poster (probably each day they congregate on that 
corner) and had since, biologically, returned to the real world.
Found it an interesting study, Frank.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO - Yoga Plus
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 Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:53 AM
 I don't know why I thought this was funny, but I did:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
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Re: PESO 2009 - 028 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 I was shooting in downtown Palo Alto the other night as I made my way back
 to the car when I saw this image of my shadow. I snapped it as a spur of the
 moment thing. Today as I reviewed exposures from that evening, it popped out
 at me ...

 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/028-shadow.jpg
 Shadow - Palo Alto 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
 ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/6 second

 Your comments always appreciated. :-)

I like the different textures.

Well seen.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread ann sanfedele



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Christian wrote:


http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg


Shhesh, G, give the rest of us some hope... :-) another winner



LOL ... Ok, a self portrait should let you count your blessings:

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/029-self-portrait-home.jpg

]'-)



yikes!  and I thought the shadow photo was scary! :-)

ann



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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread ann sanfedele



David J Brooks wrote:


Nice, the dof flows to the back nicely.

Dave



and quiet flows the dof

ann (who likes the shot too)



On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 


Walking downtown after dark ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg
Barber Chairs - Palo Alto 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/30 sec

enjoy
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GESO - My Daughter's Work

2009-03-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
have posted a few of their images from time to time.

My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For this past
Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of lenses
(her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college she has
started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery that she
did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite proud of her
because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To me, she is
showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am prejudice.

Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/

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Re: PESO: Triangulation Three

2009-03-23 Thread Jack Davis

I see five triangles, not counting the random brick versions. I believe I'd 
find the total scene more geometric without the copper(?) detail.

Jack


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 Subject: PESO: Triangulation Three
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 Two triangles are better than one.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823351
 
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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 2)

2009-03-23 Thread Jack Davis

I, also, see the face of the guy on the far right is cut off. Just their 
presence makes the scene. I need nothing more.

Jack


--- On Mon, 3/23/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 2)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 7:17 AM
 Godfrey didn't like the fact that I cut off the feet of
 the guy
 waiting for the bus, so here is he, full body:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html
 
 as a point of comparison, here's the earlier, tighter
 crop:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html
 
 Preference?
 
 Like both?
 
 Like neither?
 
 As Boris says, be brutal!
 
 ;-)
 
 And thanks in advance for your comments, and thanks for
 looking.
 
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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread Jack Davis

No, I prefer the obvious static feel of the presence of the guy on the right.

Jack


--- On Mon, 3/23/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 7:58 AM
 Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said
 he'd like
 a square version (well, he didn't actually say that,
 but the crop he
 suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at
 this one:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html
 
 I'm torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and
 weak points to
 each.  Your thoughts would be most helpful.
 
 BTW, for reference, here's version 2:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nicely done portrait.  A double duty - good portrait and good test
shot.  The lens looks quite nice, indeed.  I don't shoot my FA 50/1.4
that much, but maybe, I'd like this lens - on film my old favorite
portrait lens was the FA* 85/1.4.

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Monday, March 23, 2009, 8:42:31 AM, you wrote:

WR OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's a
WR good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.

WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

WR Technical:
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WR DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
WR 1/40 second.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 030 - GDG

2009-03-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
I like this one.  You have composed and rendered a very nice scene.

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Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:42:11 PM, you wrote:

GD Walking downtown after dark ...

GD http://homepage.mac.com/godders/030-barberchairs.jpg
GD Barber Chairs - Palo Alto 2009
GD Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
GD ISO 800 @ f/2 @ 1/30 sec

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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

2009-03-23 Thread Jack Davis

Artistic flare, indeed! You are completely justified in being proud.

Jack


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 From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com
 Subject: GESO - My Daughter's Work
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 9:29 AM
 Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the
 years.  I
 have posted a few of their images from time to time.
 
 My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For
 this past
 Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of
 lenses
 (her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college
 she has
 started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery
 that she
 did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite
 proud of her
 because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To
 me, she is
 showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am
 prejudice.
 
 Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and
 comment:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/
 
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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Cotty wrote:

On 23/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:


Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html


Yes- that's the one. Excellent.


Yes indeed, that one nails it!

What I like is the contrast between the posture and body language of the 
guy waiting for the bus - very solid and bolted to the ground - and 
the yoga practitioner in the poster.


Great grab. Not quite up to standard of Unaware of the Stare, but then 
classics like that are much harder to come by :)




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Re: GESO, Hellyer Park

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Landscapes are harder than they seem.


Indeed.


thumbnails
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157615698160017/

All 7 at 500 pixels wide:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157615698160017/


Of this set, I think the one named 20090322-imgp2404 poses the most  
interesting landscape idea.


To do something truly stunning in landscape work is incredibly  
difficult, far moreso than it seems on the surface.


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Directions of photography?

2009-03-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
I ran across this exchange recently and it caused me to do some
thinking:
http://photo.net/wedding-photography-forum/00SlvT

I have many of the same feelings as this guy presented.  When I look
at much of the current work being shown, especially on photo.net
galleries, I see heavy handed manipulation being the norm and also
being judged very positively.

Anyway, some interesting fodder for discussion for those who care to
take a read.  The thread discussion improves further down than near
the top -but you do have to read the initial post.

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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 23, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
have posted a few of their images from time to time.

My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For this past
Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of lenses
(her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college she has
started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery that she
did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite proud of her
because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To me, she is
showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am prejudice.

Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/


There are some really interesting ideas in this set, Bruce. It's  
exciting to see a young person begin to train their eye. I'd say about  
a third of these, with some rendering polish, are right there already.  
Certainly a few of them beg for more exploratory and development  
shooting.


Great stuff. Encourage her to keep going!

Godfrey

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
A fine portrait Bill. He shows a lot of character. And the lens looks
like a performer. It is good to see so much details, from a non over
sharpened picture. It simply looks natural.

But I wouldn't be so sure about the good friend part. He looks a lot
mote attached to the camera than to you. Can't say I blame him ;-)

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2009/3/23 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
 OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's a
 good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

 Technical:
 K20 @ ISO 640.
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 1/40 second.

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Nice portrait. I see he has excellent taste in camera equipment. ];-)

Enjoy the DA*55. Looks like another top-notch Pentax lens.

Godfrey



On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:42 AM, William Robb wrote:

OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but  
he's a good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

Technical:
K20 @ ISO 640.
DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
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Re: GESO, Hellyer Park

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:

 To do something truly stunning in landscape work is incredibly difficult,
 far moreso than it seems on the surface.

Absolutely!  I'll second that.

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/3/09, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's a
good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

This lens seems to be the new A*85 ? Good shot.

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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

2009-03-23 Thread Charles Robinson

On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:29, Bruce Dayton wrote:


Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/



Wow!   This is from a beginner?  Quite impressive.  Nice set of work  
there.


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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus

2009-03-23 Thread Fernando
Same here, definitely funny.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:49 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't put my finger on why, but i find it funny also.

 Dave

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know why I thought this was funny, but I did:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus.html

 Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, that nails it! One minor nit is that you should rotate it a  
degree or so anti-clockwise as in the square cropping the small  
rotation is exaggerated visually. But it's very good just as is.


Godfrey


On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:58 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html



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Re: PESO - Yoga Plus (version 3)

2009-03-23 Thread Fernando
I like this version more than 12

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:58 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last iteration of this one, I promise, but as Godfriey said he'd like
 a square version (well, he didn't actually say that, but the crop he
 suggested ended up being square), here's my last try at this one:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-3.html

 I'm torn between versions 2 and 3 - can see strong and weak points to
 each.  Your thoughts would be most helpful.

 BTW, for reference, here's version 2:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/yoga-plus-version-2.html

 Thanks!

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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Timbah!

Excellent picture to show the capabilities of the lens. I am convinced :)
What I would like to ask is the performance of the lens? How fast it 
focuses and how precise the focus with the K20D? How much it hunts in 
low light? How much post process included on the picture?


Sorry for being such a technical person :)

.t

William Robb wrote:
OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but he's 
a good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html

Technical:
K20 @ ISO 640.
DA*55/1.4 @ f/3.2
1/40 second.

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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

2009-03-23 Thread Bruce Walker

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
have posted a few of their images from time to time.

My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For this past
Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of lenses
(her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college she has
started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery that she
did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite proud of her
because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To me, she is
showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am prejudice.

Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/

  


Very, very impressive, Bruce. Your daughter has a great deal of talent, 
not the least of which is to get action shots in focus in really dim 
light, a trick I'm still attempting to master every week!  :-)


BTW: did she do very much post-processing of these?

I say, send her more cast-off equipment asap. :-)

-bmw

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Re: Directions of photography?

2009-03-23 Thread Jack Davis

I made such a point on this list a few years back and was promptly chastised 
for making such arbitrary judgments, followed by the comment that it was too 
late for me in 1843.
They may have been right, for that matter.

Jack


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 From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com
 Subject: Directions of photography?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 9:55 AM
 I ran across this exchange recently and it caused me to do
 some
 thinking:
 http://photo.net/wedding-photography-forum/00SlvT
 
 I have many of the same feelings as this guy presented. 
 When I look
 at much of the current work being shown, especially on
 photo.net
 galleries, I see heavy handed manipulation being the norm
 and also
 being judged very positively.
 
 Anyway, some interesting fodder for discussion for those
 who care to
 take a read.  The thread discussion improves further down
 than near
 the top -but you do have to read the initial post.
 
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Re: Fantastic photos of volcano near Tonga

2009-03-23 Thread Charles Robinson

On Mar 22, 2009, at 12:01, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

A friend sent me links to these amazing photos. Thought you'd be  
interested...


Godfrey

Begin forwarded message:


Wow.


Large earthquake, volcanic eruption, and tsunami hazard--Tonga  
area. Debris is expected to make it to Fiji beaches


http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/undersea_eruptions_near_tonga.html

and

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1163121/Pictured-The-spectacular-eruption-underwater-volcano-South-Pacific.html




I saw some VIDEO of this a couple days ago but it was unlabeled so I  
didn't know that it was recent news (or where it was).


Neat images, thanks for sharing!

Video here if anyone cares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRU22t1BhNY

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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

2009-03-23 Thread Fernando
Those are wonderful, my favorite is IMP0168. Very nice work.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
 have posted a few of their images from time to time.

 My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For this past
 Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of lenses
 (her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college she has
 started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery that she
 did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite proud of her
 because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To me, she is
 showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am prejudice.

 Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/

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Re: GESO - My Daughter's Work

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Some of you may remember my older daughters work over the years.  I
 have posted a few of their images from time to time.

 My second daughter is in her first year of college.  For this past
 Christmas she received my old *istD along with a couple of lenses
 (her favorite being an A 35-105/3.5).  While out at college she has
 started to really do some shooting.  I present on gallery that she
 did on a weekend with a roommate of hers.  I'm quite proud of her
 because she has figured out most of this on her own.  To me, she is
 showing some real artistic flair - but of course, I am prejudice.

 Anyway, for those who would like to take a look and comment:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/34470...@n03/sets/72157612796672546/show/

This a an amazing gallery!  Hard to pick a favourite, but IMGP0107 has
a lovely mood to it.

Great stuff!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Triangulation Three

2009-03-23 Thread Joseph McAllister

I see where you are going with this Paul...

The frame is now divided into three triangles.

Now you have to find a way to do four. And an X division won't do,  
because it gives you eight.


Now what?

On Mar 23, 2009, at 06:56 , Paul Stenquist wrote:


Two triangles are better than one.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8823351


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Re: DA* 55/1.4 First Picture

2009-03-23 Thread Joseph McAllister

Damn you wrobb. That'sa one sharp mutha!

And I hate you.

Gotta resist - have an smcp-M 1.4 already - but..


On Mar 23, 2009, at 08:42 , William Robb wrote:

OK, it isn't much, and you'd never be able to drink him cute, but  
he's a good friend, even with the choice in camera gear.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/55-14.html


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Re: GESO, Hellyer Park

2009-03-23 Thread Doug Brewer

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

To do something truly stunning in photography is incredibly  
difficult, far moreso than it seems on the surface.


there. fixed that for ya.

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe

Should have known, Cotty... kind of slow lately, sorry. :-)

LF

Cotty escreveu:

On 20/3/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed:


On 20/3/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed:


broken diaphragm lever

You're talking about the *ist Ds, right?



Actually, the broken diaphragm lever is in my #2 Mx camera, and the *ist
DS is the digital body recently purchased.

LF


It's alright Luiz, I'm just making a cheap joke about Pentax's
continuing and excellent support for legacy lenses ;-)

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe

hm... was under the idea you had no film cameras left...

LF

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:
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All my Minox subminiature cameras are in fine working order, and I have 
a few hundred rolls of film in the freezer for them. Someday I'll make 
some more Minox photographs.


Godfrey

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Re: Directions of photography?

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 I ran across this exchange recently and it caused me to do some
 thinking:
 http://photo.net/wedding-photography-forum/00SlvT

 I have many of the same feelings as this guy presented.  When I look
 at much of the current work being shown, especially on photo.net
 galleries, I see heavy handed manipulation being the norm and also
 being judged very positively.

 Anyway, some interesting fodder for discussion for those who care to
 take a read.  The thread discussion improves further down than near
 the top -but you do have to read the initial post.


Someone in that thread left the following comment:

It's always about satisfying the client.

I agree with this statement. And it's how to successfully run a
business. It's my approach as well and my banker is smiling every time
I walk in the door and make a deposit.

If you run a business, re-read that statement.

I'm glad I'm an amateur.

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe

Bruce, I switched brands - and formats often when I was working with
photography. Sold most of my cameras to buy different ones I needed or
offered some feature that would make my work easier. One camera - a
Sinar 4x5 was absolutely needed to make some photos I had interest.

Used Canon Fd, Nikon, Pentax 67, Mamyia 645, Hasselblad, Kowa... Old
Rollei and Yashica TLRs, and before I bought some waterresistant point
and shoot I took some bikini shots with a Fuji waterrresistant
disposable. Need to work, will use. Not switching a work tool to a
better one because it's pretty or has sentimental value is foolish, IMHO.

Pentax gear is with me all the way since 1976 - so I guess it's not
exactly a tool for the job.

LF

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Well, you raise an interesting point.  Many talk of jumping ship, but
not too many actually do.  What happens is you have to differentiate
between a justifiable need and a want.  When you look at your current
investment in a system, then you really start to figure out the real
needs.  There can be needs that are not satisfied by a particular
manufacturer.  For most 'normal' hobby level shooting, every
manufacturer provides more than enough features.  But for specialized
situations where a Pro would be paid, a particular manufacturer may
not have just the right features or gear.

I think many times, it is the envy issue.  It would be nice to have
the brand/gear that everyone else looks up to rather than having the
brand/gear that most people either don't know or have a mediocre
opinion of.  I think many are saying that Pentax needs to provide
everything every other manufacturer does so they can be more
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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe

Bob, here in BR a working Mx runs $100 to $150 with lens - that could be
usable. Repairing my 2nd Mx should almost reach that value, but I get a
camera good for some 5 years more - I don't take as many photos as I'd like.

Still can't put money in a second Mx unless it's the cheaper way to get
a second working camera in my bag - and I'd rather have the Lx or the
Pz1p repaired, to benefit of their functions. Too bad their repair is
more expensive.

LF

Bob Sullivan escreveu:

Luiz,
In sympathy...
I still have rolls of film in the PZ-1 and MZ-S from when I purchased
my first digital.
It was a *ist DS and 3+ years ago.
I didn't expect to, but I never looked back.
I still have film in the freezer, but digital is cheaper and most satisfying!
I wouldn't fix anything but the LX.  I can't bring myself to sell mine.
Keep it for nostalgia.
The MX cameras are nice, but have suffered heavy useage.
Repair will be more expensive than finding a low milage used copy.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Well, just bought a *ist DS with the 18~55, and one of these days I'll
get to receive it... the price we pay for that lovely and cheap address
not too close to the sea ;-)

But the new (for me, at least) camera means my 35mm gear repair schedule
is on hold for some time, and maybe for good. I'm facing a tough choice
- wich cameras to keep, wich cameras to let go - and where. I have,
currently on sick bay:

Mx body, exterior good, broken diaphragm lever, a single risk on the
lensmount and shutter erratic. Pentax techs in Sao Paulo believe they
can repair it. It's my second Mx body, bought as is for $30. Keep it for
parts?

Lx body, auto off, mirror working ok but needing alignment, exterior
fair. Techs say it's possible, but not probable to make it work. I'm
deeply attached to this camera, bought in 1981 and used all around the
world, but not as display model. Try to sell it, but what price?

Pz1p body, damaged shutter, broken and repaired bottom plate. Techs say
parts available, no big deal. Just some cash I'm not ready to pay for a
while. Repair it later or just spend the cash on other things Pentax?
Gift from a friend currently using Canon.

I'm watching BR ebay-like sites, and right now is the wrong time to sell
anything 35mm around here - Pentax in particular. Problem aggravated by
the fact those cameras are not working and Pentax tech in BR is not so
near. I really don't know what to do.

Any ideas? Please???

PS: since I can't rely on just one camera, I accepted as payment for
some old debts a Canon EOS 500n + 50mm 1.8 and 28~80 whatever, the
camera in fair condition but lenses very good. I'd like to sell it and
pay the repair of one or two of those cameras, but that means only one 35mm
camera until the repairs are successful (if). Or I could go the evil way and
purchase the PK~EOS adapter and keep it - too bad I hate the damned
viewfinder...

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe

Joseph, the time to buy gear is the time I almost wish I'd live in the
US...

Being fair, I do miss gumbo, diving in the Keys and Disneyworld to some
extent. ;-)

LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:

On Mar 20, 2009, at 09:36 , Bob Sullivan wrote:


The MX cameras are nice, but have suffered heavy useage.
Repair will be more expensive than finding a low milage used copy.



He's right, Luiz. You can replace the MX if you must with a better one 
for less than or equal to the cost of a repair. As you know, I no longer 
had an MX, but I did have a winder, a motor drive, and a 250 exposure 
back, as well as a Pentax cartridge loader for same. (and both kinds of 
dial backs and a polaroid back and all the screens)  But the other day I 
saw a 17mm ƒ4 K-mount lens on eBay I wanted (LBA) and it came with an MX 
body. When it arrived, it turned out the MX had hardly ever been used. 
No scratches, no dents, still had the plastic cover on the baseplate, 
and it wasn't scratched or marked in any way. There was some oxidation 
in the threads for the battery compartment, but the compartment itself 
was clean. I cleaned up the threads and have a new camera. Which I 
figure I need to be able to sell the other MX components either as a 
huge kit, or one by one, using the body as a demo.


I won't tell you the price, but it was (in retrospect) so damn reasonable.

So keep your eyes open. Working MXs sell all the time on eBay US for 
less than $100. Just over $100 for black bodies.



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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe

Trust me Doug, Canon is not that quick anyway. Not hearing the lens
makes some difference, and since so many have vouched for the speed I
accept the Canon top bodies are fast. Not the 500n, at least mine, nor
the Xti a friend is using and I borrow now and then, the moment they're
using the non-usm lens. And those Canon have very small and darkish
viewfinders when compared to my old Pentax stuff and to an *ist D I
happened to try years ago.

$ for $, feature for feature, Pentax is a hell of deal. Just don't go
comparing the mid-range Pentax to the top-of-the-line Nikon, Canon or
whatever. And don't forget every time we switch brands we sell something
to buy something else. Going for a mid-price Canon is not that expensive
- too bad mid-priced Pentaxes usually perform like cameras more
expensive - and offer features you usually don't find in mid-priced cameras.

I fancy MLU and DOF preview, and would like weather sealing. What would
I pay for such camera in Pentax, Canon and Nikon systems?? Not that I
can buy it now...

OTOH, you must have access to some very interest racing cars... at least
in the price.

LF

Doug Franklin escreveu:

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Many talk of jumping ship, but
not too many actually do.  What happens is you have to differentiate
between a justifiable need and a want.


I'd love, in some ways, to jump ship to Canon for their (reputedly) 
better high-speed-action performance.  [Frankly I haven't done the 
research, I'm just using Canon as an example.]  But I'd have to replace 
a 400/5.6 APO Macro, an F* 300/4.5, and an FA* 200/2.8, plus whatever 
the other brand has for analogues to the 16-45 or 16-50 and the 
50-200.  Plus bodies (two).  That's more than I paid for the last race 
car we bought.  It's more than any daily driver I've ever bought.  It's 
more than all but one vehicle I've ever bought, and that's the truck to 
tow the race rig.  Ain't gonna freakin' happen until my Pentax gear dies.




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