Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread John Francis

OK - I'll chime in with my car history.

My first car was a mid '60s Morris Minor 1000(sic) Estate
with the 1100cc engine, which my mother gave to me.  While
not an exciting car to drive, it served me well for a few
years with very few problems (until the frame rusted out),
and was an easy car to work on (I even reground valves).

After that I got my first convertible - a 1970s Triumph
Vitesse (which I bought from my younger brother). That was
a great car, and I was sorry to part with it when we left
the UK.

In the US we've owned:

 A 1980 Fiat 132.  Far better than its reputation suggests.

 A 1983 Datsun(sic) Maxima wagon. A lot better that the US
 competition in that market segment - a Buick Century. We
 got a really good one, but manufacturing quality was quite
 variable - we knew of others which were less reliable.
 When we sold it (because of rust-through problems; in NH
 even pinhole rusting in the wheel arches fails inspection)
 the purchaser ruined the car in twelve months :-(

 A 1986 Ford Mustang GT convertible.  Drove that car for
 20 years and 120,000 miles.  There were some initial clutch
 seal problems which took two complete clutch replacements to
 fix, but apart from that it was what you would expect from
 an American pony car - fast in a straight line, but not as
 tight as a European car when it came to cornering.

 A 1990 Ford Aerostar 4WDXL.  A very versatile performer.
 It did need serious transmission work after five years.
 Sold it when we moved cross-country from NH to CA in 95.

 A (used) 1990 Range Rover.  Expensive, unreliable. Over
 six or seven years we had multiple four-figure repair bills.
 Eventually it lunched the engine, and when the estimate for
 repairs (maybe 8-10K) exceeded the probable value of the
 car after the repairs we replaced it with ...

 A 2003 Mini Cooper.  My wife loves this car.

 A (used) 2004 BMW Z4. My replacement for the Mustang.
 I hope it lasts me as long as the Mustang did. I don't
 use it enough to see many problems - maybe 5K miles/year.

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Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows

2009-06-05 Thread David Mann

On Jun 5, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

[a bunch of Youtube links]

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary


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Re: Quicktime...

2009-06-05 Thread David Mann

On Jun 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:


Windows is /bound/ to be better than a muriatic acid enema.


Doing CSS workarounds for IE6, on the other hand...

(yes I've had a frustrating afternoon)

Dave

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RE: running a 10k

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
 
 in the first week of april, some of us friends here decided 
 to do a 10km
 run in bangalore, mostly to keep some off smoking which they 
 just given
 up. most of us had no prior experience with distance running. the run
 was on may 31 in bangalore, so we had about two months to 
 train. of the
 14 that started out, eight of us finished the course last 
 sunday though
 the times are nothing to write home about... but i was personally
 relieved i didn't take a month after all. the full story here, for
 those of you interested (not my blog) :)
 
 
 http://runningmyselfin.blogspot.com/2009/06/status-update.html
 
 regards, subash
 

Well done! Before you know it you'll be indistinguishable from a certain
mountain goat.

Bob


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Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows

2009-06-05 Thread mike wilson

 William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David J Brooks 
 Subject: Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows
 
 
 
  But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the
  dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate.
  
  Mine end when ever they feel like it.
  
 
 The joy of Mac computers.

The Joy of Macs  Why does that remind me of something?

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Re: The world's greatest Pentax service has just gone down the drain. :-(

2009-06-05 Thread Rick Womer

Aha!

Yes, progressive bifocals can certainly cause problems with viewfinders.  
Every time I get a new pair, it takes some adjustment.

I used to take my glasses off to shoot, but that's a PITA.

Now, I just make sure I'm looking through the top of the glasses, where there 
is uniform distance correction.  Below the top 40% or so of the lenses, things 
get very wonky.  Just adjust the diopter setting so that the lines on the 
viewfinder screen are sharp.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

 From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de
 Subject: Re: The world's greatest Pentax service has just gone down the 
 drain. :-(
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 8:27 AM
 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Ralf, perhaps it is time you changed your camera
 anyway? I realize it
  may no be the most pleasant thing to do, but none the
 less...
 
 It still isn't quite clear if this is a camera problem or
 related to my
 no-line glasses in which case a change of camera wouldn't
 solve the
 situation. 
 
 And quite frankly I wouldn't know what to buy instead. 
 
 The German Pentax service now is just as bad as the mess
 we've been
 having with Canon for years and there's no hope of anything
 full format
 from Pentax in the foreseeable future. I won't buy another
 APS-C camera
 as I'm fed-up with those pinhole viewfinders, so the K7 is
 out of the
 race, and the digital 645, if it may ever materialize, will
 be way out
 of my financial reach. 
 
 Add to this that I've found out this morning that Noblex
 not only aren't
 making any more cameras but that they have no spares
 whatsoever to keep
 mine running, I'm beginning to understand what old Hiob
 must have felt
 like...
 
 Maybe I'd be better off collecting butterflies or
 stamps.  :-/
 
 Ralf
 
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Re: OT - When a Picture Is Worth a Thousand Debates

2009-06-05 Thread AlunFoto
2009/6/5 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
 From todays New York Times:

 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/arts/design/04abroad.html?themc=th

 To see something is to face the prospect of becoming inured to it, even if
 only slightly. Photographs reveal horrors to which they also accustom
 viewers.

To me, it seems the article concludes that an exhibition with some of
the photos that raised thousands of debates is flawed because of
inurement. I assume the writer means his own inurement, that
controversies over whether photography oversteps the civil contract is
only a subject of his phlegmatic disinterest. This is reflected also
in his use of derogatory terms for the exhibition such as a mess.

So what's his message? That such an exhibition is a waste of time and
space? That we can draw no wisdom or see no patterns from the debates
of the past? I sincerely hope the writer's intention is ironic, to
raise the issue as another debate. Otherwise I find the article to be,
pardon the expression, utter crap.

Sincerely,
Jostein

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Re: OT: running a 10k

2009-06-05 Thread Subash
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:54:42 -0500
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subash, Congrats on completing the run and stopping smoking!

Bob, thanks! i quit almost four years back. distance running is a
recent affliction though :)

  http://runningmyselfin.blogspot.com/2009/06/status-update.html

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Re: running a 10k

2009-06-05 Thread Subash
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:42:01 +0100
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

  http://runningmyselfin.blogspot.com/2009/06/status-update.html

 Well done! Before you know it you'll be indistinguishable from a
 certain mountain goat.

thanks Bob. you wouldn't say that (even jokingly) if you knew the time i
took to run the 10km. :)

but, it is actually part of my training for a trek in the himalayas
this august (at 46, i *need* to train for treks in the high altitude
himalayas). there is a glacial corridor in the garhwal himalayas, at a
height ranging from 10,000 ft to 20,000 ft, which comes alive with
alpine flowers for three months from june to august. it used to be the
summer grazing grounds for the garhwal villagers' cattle and used to be
called the bhyundar valley before a mountaineer/explorer Brit called
Frank S. Smythe discovered the place and named it the valley of
flowers, in 1931. it is a popular trekking destination today,
especially during the flowering season. it has also traditionally been
a popular pilgrimage route as there are many hindu/sikh holy places
around/near the valley. the trek route is mostly between 10-15,000 ft. 

so, pretensions to a mountain goat, yes...:)

btw, frank smythe wrote a book called the valley of flowers in 1937.
just finished reading it (it is kept in print by a small publisher
based in dehradun, in the garhwal himalayas)...

regards, subash

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Re: The cost of buying locally

2009-06-05 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi Rob,

Well I sent the e-mail last night and got a reply this morning saying
they will match the price and asking for my credit card details and
postal address.  I've supplied them but have not yet received
confirmation, but I am expecting a delivery next week. :)

This weekend I am photographing lenses I will be selling.

Leon

2009/6/3 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 On 6/3/09, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Rob,

 I am considering SDM lenses - 17-70 and 60-250.  If they will price
 match or at least come close I will happily give them my money.  Do
 you know who I need to contact or can you point me to the original
 thread?  The time to buy is soon given the state of our dollar and the
 US dollar.

 Supposedly straight from the horse's mouth:

 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=31678676

 Good luck and do let us know how you fare.

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 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel  +6... UTC +10

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Re: A Pentax 16-50mm F2.8 DA* a little sad story

2009-06-05 Thread Angel Ramos

Hi ,

I am attaching my original story about this lens and the problem I had.  
Well I got an email from Pentax saying that a new lens have been sent by 
UPS to my home address,  Bravo Pentax,  I do know now that the lens has 
arrived but  I am in a bussiness travel at México City.  I am eager to 
have the lens back in my hands.


Angel Ramos

Angel Ramos wrote:

Well mine has bite the dust, at least while its been fixed by Pentax  It
does not  go below 20mm focal length.  I noticed it after using it at an
outdoor photo shoot.  I was going to use the lens in the studio when I
found the problem.  I could hear a rattle inside like coming from a
bearing, a crew or a nut,  and whatever it is it can not be seen.  I did
not try to force to go to 16mm.  The lens is off warranty but I hope
they found the problem is related to a factory defect and fix it.  I 
have not dropped it or banged it, just normal perfect use. I hope is 
only that part loose around and that there is no additional damage.  
The lens focuses and works ok except for the problem described.  I 
will update when I get it back.


Angel



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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I blame the United Auto Workers for all the industry problems.

 I'd agree if the issues were assembly related.

 Kenneth Waller

Which a fair amount of them were/are. Can't blame the UAW for
everything though, the Detroit management and the dealers are as much
or more to blame for the Big 3's problems as the UAW.

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Subash wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:30:36 -0400
Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Scott Loveless wrote:

 I almost bought an Enfield a few years back.  Not because I thought
 it was a particularly good motorcycle, but simply because it had a
 kick start.
 
 You and Subash could have started a Pentax/Enfield owner's club!

perhaps there's a reason why he 'almost' bought one. enfields have an
electric start too these days :)) not my 96 model though...

Subash, I recall reading (in the mid/late-80's, I think) that an
Indian company was going to produce a *diesel* motorcycle called the
Sooraj 325 (going from memory here). Any idea if it ever went into
production? Here are the specifications: Single cylinder, 325cc,
diesel engine, 18:1 compression ratio... kick start only!

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Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows

2009-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Graydon

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:57:31PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit:

 Why does Task Manager ask me if I want to end a task?

 If I hadn't wanted to end the task, I wouldn't have opened Task Manager
 in the first place, and I wouldn't have clicked on the End Task button.


But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* task, and the
dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from this grim fate.


Quicktime player came out with a new update. After the update installed, 
the updater immediately began to look for NEW updates and wouldn't quit.


Probably because I chose NOT to install itunes.

I'm not sure why everyone loves Apple, since from my point of view 
they're as arrogantly inept as Microsoft.


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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: paul stenquist
Chrysler did just fine until Daimler got involved. 


Yeah, that's why they went looking for a buyer.

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
  Toyotas are great cars, if you're a fan of roll-steer.
 

  And about 98% of the Anmerican buying public has no idea what that is.

I have a Green Machine that does that!  ;)

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Re: SMC A* 300mm f4.0 no longer focuses to infinity!

2009-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Peter Loveday

Hmm. Never thought of that - thanks for the idea. The lens hood on my
 Voigtlander 28/2 Ultron keeps unscrewing itself and falling off. I've 
 twice
 had to retrace my steps looking for it in the last couple of weeks. I'd 
 been

 toying with the idea of superglue, but recent unhappy experiences of
 superglue and cameras put me off the idea. Nail polish it is!


Plus there's such a lovely range of colours to choose from.  Candy Apple Red 
lens anyone?


As it's just a drop to keep whatever it's put on from un-threading, red 
is the preferred color. Makes it easier to find where you put it if you 
ever want to remove it.


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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Subash
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:06:24 -0400
Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:


 Subash, I recall reading (in the mid/late-80's, I think) that an
 Indian company was going to produce a *diesel* motorcycle called the
 Sooraj 325 (going from memory here). Any idea if it ever went into
 production? Here are the specifications: Single cylinder, 325cc,
 diesel engine, 18:1 compression ratio... kick start only!

yes, it did get produced and was on the market for about 10 years or
so. for some reason was a favourite with foreign tourists touring india
on a shoestring budget. it is not produced anymore but you can still
see some running on the roads

btw, in the nineties royal enfield too came out with a 300-odd cc
diesel bullet model called the taurus (they outsourced the diesel
engine) which again is no more in the market. extraordinary mileage and
lots (relatively speaking) of torque... :)

regards, subash

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RE: Quicktime...

2009-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W
 
 Clearly Apple is some religion... now once upon a time there was a 
 difference - long ago, before they all started using the same 
 hardware.
 
 Granted, their OS is better than windows - but then, what isn't???  :-) 
 


I'm reliably informed that Marburg Disease isn't.

Bob


Well, just so you know, Apple came out with an update for their 
Quicktime player, which hung up after installing and wouldn't close and 
wouldn't get out of the way so I could continue reading the thread on 
Quicktime which required Task Manager to eventually get rid of prompting 
my rant about Why does 


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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Christian

I'll play:
all my cars:
1978 Plymouth Horizon - bought used in 1984 shared with my older sister. 
 Fine, reliable car until she melted the engine.
1965 Ford Mustang 289 4bbl V8 - used in 1985. Really a car that a 17 
year old high school kid should never have owned.  The car deserved 
better than I could give it.  Lots of quirky factory options including a 
vinyl roof and seatbelts(!).  It need a proper restoration but I sold it 
for $500.
1986 Hyundai Excel GLS - used in 1987. F-ing piece of crap.  Went 
through two clutches and 3 water pumps.  The water pumps literally 
seized and exploded on all occasions sending the drive pulley bouncing 
around the engine compartment.
1989 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L six - used in 1991. Really a great utilitarian, 
true off-road truck with good reliability.  The fit and finish was 
atrocious.  I used to say that I left a piece of trim every where I 
parked.  The paint suffered from the standard peeling malady that you 
see on every Chrysler product of its era.  I slid sideways into a curb 
on a wet road and took out the suspension.  The car was never the same 
after that was repaired.

1988 Toyota Corolla - used in 1999.  My mom's car.  Reliable.  Nuff said.
2000 Honda Civic EX - new in 2000.  Best car purchase I could ever have 
made especially at the time when I didn't have a lot of cash and was 
going through a divorce.  Most reliable car I've ever had.  194,800 
trouble free (simple, regular, Manufacture recommended maintenance) 
miles.  As much as I'd like to buy some flashy boy-racer car (and I can 
afford that sort of thing now), I'm keeping it for as long as it 
continues to provide the day-in-day-out reliability.



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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ken,
I blame the UAW for the economics of the industry, not the assembly
line problems.  The union might as well have used a mask and a gun to
hold up the auto makers in the '60's.  That's when I notices the big
wages and generous benefit packages.  You could argue that it was
better to hire on with a UAW job at an auto maker than spend money
going to college.  Company managements always gave in and just passed
the costs back to the customers.  Cheaper foreign manufacturing
eventually broke the paradyme that union and management were using, to
the advantage of the consumer.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Adam Maasa...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I blame the United Auto Workers for all the industry problems.

 I'd agree if the issues were assembly related.

 Kenneth Waller

 Which a fair amount of them were/are. Can't blame the UAW for
 everything though, the Detroit management and the dealers are as much
 or more to blame for the Big 3's problems as the UAW.

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Re: GESO: fishing through lightroom

2009-06-05 Thread Christian

Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

hello,
here is what i managed to catch by spending some time browsing through
my lightroom archive. it's only a year or two old (well, not older
than lightroom for sure) so i haven't managed to find pictures i
couldn't remember of having taken, but i did find some that i never
presented around online or otherwise. so i put them up on flickr and i
offer them here as well:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/sets/72157619247997468/


some really great shots in there.  The girl with the dog is a favorite. 
 You have a unique style that adds to the appeal of your photography.



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Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows

2009-06-05 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:11:02AM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit:
 I'm not sure why everyone loves Apple, since from my point of view
 they're as arrogantly inept as Microsoft.

They're differently arrogant.

Also differently inept, which frequently matters.

-- Graydon, who admits to not playing well with either.

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Re: The world's greatest Pentax service has just gone down the drain. :-(

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Same problem here.  Must remember to use the right part of the glasses!  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Aha!

 Yes, progressive bifocals can certainly cause problems with viewfinders.  
 Every time I get a new pair, it takes some adjustment.

 I used to take my glasses off to shoot, but that's a PITA.

 Now, I just make sure I'm looking through the top of the glasses, where there 
 is uniform distance correction.  Below the top 40% or so of the lenses, 
 things get very wonky.  Just adjust the diopter setting so that the lines on 
 the viewfinder screen are sharp.

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

 From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de
 Subject: Re: The world's greatest Pentax service has just gone down the 
 drain. :-(
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 8:27 AM
 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Ralf, perhaps it is time you changed your camera
 anyway? I realize it
  may no be the most pleasant thing to do, but none the
 less...

 It still isn't quite clear if this is a camera problem or
 related to my
 no-line glasses in which case a change of camera wouldn't
 solve the
 situation.

 And quite frankly I wouldn't know what to buy instead.

 The German Pentax service now is just as bad as the mess
 we've been
 having with Canon for years and there's no hope of anything
 full format
 from Pentax in the foreseeable future. I won't buy another
 APS-C camera
 as I'm fed-up with those pinhole viewfinders, so the K7 is
 out of the
 race, and the digital 645, if it may ever materialize, will
 be way out
 of my financial reach.

 Add to this that I've found out this morning that Noblex
 not only aren't
 making any more cameras but that they have no spares
 whatsoever to keep
 mine running, I'm beginning to understand what old Hiob
 must have felt
 like...

 Maybe I'd be better off collecting butterflies or
 stamps.  :-/

 Ralf

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/4/09, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:30:36 -0400

 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

   Scott Loveless wrote:


  I almost bought an Enfield a few years back.  Not because I thought
   it was a particularly good motorcycle, but simply because it had a
   kick start.
  
   You and Subash could have started a Pentax/Enfield owner's club!


 perhaps there's a reason why he 'almost' bought one. enfields have an
  electric start too these days :)) not my 96 model though...

The reasons I didn't get one at the time were because I needed
reliable transportation for frequent interstate highway travel.  I
wasn't convinced that an Enfield, pushed to 70mph on a daily basis,
was a good solution.  Now that my needs have changed I may get one
with a sidecar and give myself two days or so to get to GFM next year.
 Skyline Drive and Blue Ridge Parkway all the way, baby!

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Scott,
Remember it rains at GFM!
Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/4/09, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:30:36 -0400

 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

   Scott Loveless wrote:


  I almost bought an Enfield a few years back.  Not because I thought
   it was a particularly good motorcycle, but simply because it had a
   kick start.
  
   You and Subash could have started a Pentax/Enfield owner's club!


 perhaps there's a reason why he 'almost' bought one. enfields have an
  electric start too these days :)) not my 96 model though...

 The reasons I didn't get one at the time were because I needed
 reliable transportation for frequent interstate highway travel.  I
 wasn't convinced that an Enfield, pushed to 70mph on a daily basis,
 was a good solution.  Now that my needs have changed I may get one
 with a sidecar and give myself two days or so to get to GFM next year.
  Skyline Drive and Blue Ridge Parkway all the way, baby!

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Scott,
  Remember it rains at GFM!

I've been wet before.

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:12 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: paul stenquist

 Chrysler did just fine until Daimler got involved.

 Yeah, that's why they went looking for a buyer.


Which isn't what happened. They went looking for a merger partner and
got suckered.



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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:12 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
   From: paul stenquist
  
   Chrysler did just fine until Daimler got involved.
  
   Yeah, that's why they went looking for a buyer.
  

 Which isn't what happened. They went looking for a merger partner and
  got suckered.

Steamrolled is more like it.  From what I recall the guy Chrysler sent
in to negotiate the merger wasn't quite prepared for what the Germans
had in mind and they walked all over him.  Hostile takeover is
probably a more accurate description of what happened.

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless 
Subject: Re: OT: help identifying this car





Steamrolled is more like it.  From what I recall the guy Chrysler sent
in to negotiate the merger wasn't quite prepared for what the Germans
had in mind and they walked all over him.  Hostile takeover is
probably a more accurate description of what happened.



Sounds like what happened to Canada during NAFTA negotiations.

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RE: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread mike wilson

 Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com wrote: 
  William Robb wrote:
 
  Ford Prefect from the late 40s, early 50s.
  John Francis gets the canoe on this one.
 
 Ah! The only one I've seen has been highly modified by a different
 generation (V8  Jaguar auto box). So that's what they really look like.

UK ford prefect was an entirely different animal.  Made from part-recycled bean 
tins, sidevalve 998cc engine and three speed non-synchro box; 60 mph, 
20+(imp)mpg at the very, very best.

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

  - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT: help
 identifying this car




  Steamrolled is more like it.  From what I recall the guy Chrysler sent
  in to negotiate the merger wasn't quite prepared for what the Germans
  had in mind and they walked all over him.  Hostile takeover is
  probably a more accurate description of what happened.
 
 

  Sounds like what happened to Canada during NAFTA negotiations.

Not all of us down here are exactly thrilled with it, either.

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Re: OT: Something I don't understand about windows

2009-06-05 Thread mike wilson

 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: 
 ..I merely lost everything
 that was installed on my computer...

Mark!

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Re: GESO: fishing through lightroom

2009-06-05 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
thank you, it's very rewarding to hear you think so
luka

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 Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

 hello,
 here is what i managed to catch by spending some time browsing through
 my lightroom archive. it's only a year or two old (well, not older
 than lightroom for sure) so i haven't managed to find pictures i
 couldn't remember of having taken, but i did find some that i never
 presented around online or otherwise. so i put them up on flickr and i
 offer them here as well:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/sets/72157619247997468/

 some really great shots in there.  The girl with the dog is a favorite.  You
 have a unique style that adds to the appeal of your photography.


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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
In truth, Chrysler chairman Eaton and others saw a chance to cash in.  
They were nearing retirement age and saw an opportunity to walk away  
with many millions of dollars if they could get another company to buy  
a controlling interest in Chrysler. And they knew they had something  
that others wanted: the most refined automotive version of the virtual  
prototype design and testing software that was pioneered by Dassault  
and perfected by Boeing. (The second version of the LH cars was fully  
tested on a virtual proving ground before any real cars were built.  
That was an automotive first.) I believe that Mercedes wanted the  
software more than the company. But since the company was more  
profitable than Mercedes at first, they hung on and drained it. When  
they had squeezed all the life out of Chrysler, they unloaded it on  
Cerebus. The fact that it may very well survive is a minor miracle.

Paul
On Jun 5, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:12 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com  
wrote:

From: paul stenquist


Chrysler did just fine until Daimler got involved.


Yeah, that's why they went looking for a buyer.



Which isn't what happened. They went looking for a merger partner and
got suckered.



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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars .  .  .

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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 In truth, Chrysler chairman Eaton and others saw a chance to cash in. They
 were nearing retirement age and saw an opportunity to walk away with many
 millions of dollars if they could get another company to buy a controlling
 interest in Chrysler.

Why doesn't that surprise me?  And why is that the filthy, stinking
rich have a desire to be filthier, stinkier and richer?

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars .  .  .

They talk about that stuff over at the Pentax forums.  gdr

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PESO: Riding Momma

2009-06-05 Thread Paul Stenquist

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9294845size=lg

K20D plus DA*60-250, f4.5 1/4000th, ISO 400, 200mm

Click to make it smaller

Paul

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread mike wilson

 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Cars I have owned:

I have a car.  It's dark green.  It's done 173,000 miles.  It does 50mpg.

Can I talk about my motorcycles?

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PESO - sofa and window

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
This is all Doug's fault.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2LuHl_XCFiFjNis4jxk6AA?feat=directlink

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

   Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
   Cars I have owned:


 I have a car.  It's dark green.  It's done 173,000 miles.  It does 50mpg.

  Can I talk about my motorcycles?

No.  Motorcycles are off-topic.

A couple of ancient mopeds that were fun to play with.
An old Yamaha 125cc dual sport that I fell off of a lot, mostly due
to running it into trees.
'85 Suzuki GS550L, claw-hammer reliable but really uncomfortable.
'95 Honda Shadow 600, which I bought new, rode it a lot until we had
kids and it now resides with my Dad who rides it to work when the
weather is nice.

The next one will either be a sport-tourer or something old-fashioned,
like a Triumph Thruxton or even an Enfield.  Or maybe a KLR650.
Jebus.  I think I need one of each.

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:15:03AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
 Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars .  .  .

It is a fundamental law that you can't decide what a thread is going to
be about, only what you're going to post to it.  Given long enough,
it'll be about cars, marmoset grooming, and how to set up lighting to
take pictures of paint drying.

-- Graydon

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GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Christine Aguila
(Probably best to read this with a wink ;-) and a smile :-) all the  way 
through.)



After Saturday's dinner, Doug Brewer dashed off, tending to official 
workshop business, and Darrel and I headed into the auditorium for the Fine 
Art Black and White presentation, which I thought interesting, but it was 
infused with more expensive software talk, so I nudged Darrel, and we headed 
for the Cliffside view site--and a mountain side sunset.


Then more PDMLers arrived, and equipment popped out of bags, and tripods 
were yanked about. Scott cursed the person who invented tripods; Ted yelled 
for me to hurry with the silhouette shot I attempted to take of him; folks 
climbed up rocks to get the best position.  It was great fun to watch--and 
the sunset was nice too!  To the left of the sun, one was treated to lovely 
pink and blue colors, and for my first time at a mountain side sunset, I did 
ok with those shots.  Nothing great, but respectable, but my actual sunset 
shots are pretty scary looking--scary as in what drugs was the photographer 
taking when shooting these shots, but it just doesn't matter.  It was fun to 
be there, to watch folks shoot, and to see the beautiful colors.


Darrel  I had two bottles of wine in hand when we arrived at the PDML 
campsite Saturday night.  Stan obliged with the uncorking--you know, I 
learned that Stan Halpin knows everyone and has been everywhere--quite 
worldly that man!  The conversation meandered again:  I think it began with 
PDML history and stories, snaked into motorcycle racing, back to fun stories 
and gossip about folks on the list, headed off into a book about World War 
I, names of PDMLers that folks would like to meet in person, and other 
various, various--the usual PDML stuff.


We had a good strong steady rain in the early hours of Sunday.  Most stayed 
dry, but Cotty remarked he had quite a bit of water under his tent.  It was 
back up the hill for the awards and the Sunday morning Doug and Mark show, 
which was really great.  If Cotty goes to GFM next year, I think he should 
video tape it, then edit it, then post the clip on the list.  Everyone 
should be treated to the Doug and Mark show, which combines the humor of a 
hyper-kinetic Mark Roberts and a laid-back Doug Brewer.  It certainly makes 
for some hearty belly-laughs!  Well done, guys!  Really impressive!


Then it was pack up and go, with glad to meet yas all the way around. 
Darrel  I will go next year provided no unexpectedness unexpectedly pops 
up--folks on the list should go--maybe next year's PDML meet-up could be a 
big one, with lots of PDML folks around the camp fire.


Here are a few pics if you're interested.  Cheers, Christine

http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/



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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Subash
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:39:51 +0100
mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 
  Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Cars I have owned:
 
 I have a car.  It's dark green.  It's done 173,000 miles.  It does
 50mpg.
 
 Can I talk about my motorcycles?


i have a car. it's purple. bought in late 2001 and in 7 1/2 years has
done 30,500 *kilometres*. 14km/litre.

right. can we talk about my motorcycles?

regards, subash

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread mike wilson

 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: 
 On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
    Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Cars I have owned:
 
 
  I have a car.  It's dark green.  It's done 173,000 miles.  It does 50mpg.
 
   Can I talk about my motorcycles?
 
 No.  Motorcycles are off-topic.
 
 A couple of ancient mopeds that were fun to play with.
 An old Yamaha 125cc dual sport that I fell off of a lot, mostly due
 to running it into trees.
 '85 Suzuki GS550L, claw-hammer reliable but really uncomfortable.
 '95 Honda Shadow 600, which I bought new, rode it a lot until we had
 kids and it now resides with my Dad who rides it to work when the
 weather is nice.
 
 The next one will either be a sport-tourer or something old-fashioned,
 like a Triumph Thruxton or even an Enfield.  Or maybe a KLR650.
 Jebus.  I think I need one of each.

Wow.  Not even a hint of HD.  How unpatriotic.

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RE: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Desjardins, Steve
We have a simple plan. We buy Subaru cars and Ford trucks.  Both have worked 
well for us.  Subarus have their quirks and some odd repairs, but are generally 
very reliable and handle well.

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OT: Motorcycles (was RE: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)

2009-06-05 Thread Desjardins, Steve
You can now.

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Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

   Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
   Cars I have owned:


 I have a car.  It's dark green.  It's done 173,000 miles.  It does 50mpg.

  Can I talk about my motorcycles?

No.  Motorcycles are off-topic.


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Re: GFM--One

2009-06-05 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com


Do you have the new version? You know, the one with the zombies?


I think you've missed what I'm talking about. It's a book:
http://www.powells.com/biblio/18-9781594743344-0



Ah, yes, I did miss what you were talking about.  Seems kind of fun, but I 
don't think I'll be reading it. 




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Re: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
I envy them. :-)

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/5/09, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 In truth, Chrysler chairman Eaton and others saw a chance to cash in. They
 were nearing retirement age and saw an opportunity to walk away with many
 millions of dollars if they could get another company to buy a controlling
 interest in Chrysler.

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Re: GFM--One

2009-06-05 Thread Christine Aguila
That's great, John Francis.  So I take it you are and Austen fan.  Cheers, 
Christine



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On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 05:04:24PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:


*any Jane Austen fans?  See Pride and Prejudice.


Does this photograph (from a year ago) answer that question?

 http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0818


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Re: PESO: Riding Momma

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
That's your carpet slope isn't it?
It's an enjoyable slice of life, well captured.
Regards, Bob S.

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 K20D plus DA*60-250, f4.5 1/4000th, ISO 400, 200mm

 Click to make it smaller

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Re: PESO - sofa and window

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Scott,
So what is that?  A blurry picture of a bike seat thru your front window?
And why are you blaming Doug?
Regards, Bob S.

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Re: GFM--One

2009-06-05 Thread Christine Aguila
Actually, I got the date wrong:  it's around 1985ish.  Fay Weldon did the 
screenplay and Elizabeth Garvie plays Elizabeth and David Rintoul plays Mr. 
Darcy.  This version is more like a video drama really.  I like it because 
it really lets Austen's dialogue shine; in my view anyway.


Also, if you liked Emma Thompson's version of Sense and Sensibility, I 
recommend reading her published diary of the making of the movie.  Very fun 
read.  Cheers, Christine


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1985, according to the BBC Jane Austen DVD box set; 1980, according to 
IMDB.

Who are you going to believe? I suppose I could put one of the DVDs in the
player and see what the copyright date is.

Personally I think the 1995 version (with Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy) is
better - Susannah Harker is excellent as as Jane, while Benjamin Whitrow
(as Mr. Bennet), Alison Steadman (as Mrs. Bennet) and Barbara Leigh-Hunt
(as Lady Catherine) offer strong supporting characters.  But the best
performance in a minor role is David Bamber as the oleaginous Mr Collins.


On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 05:15:57PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:

Darrel  I are partial to the BBC version done probably in the late 70s.
We've rented newer versions, but we never finish watching them--they are
pretty stinky in our view.


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Subject: Re: GFM--One



Christine  Aguila wrote:


Darrel  I joined PDML Central with a bottle of Glenfiddich in hand.  I
poured snorts for the takers.


Oh yes, I forgot to thank you for the Glenfiddich! Much appreciated :)


*any Jane Austen fans?  See Pride and Prejudice.


Do you have the new version? You know, the one with the zombies?

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Re: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/6/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/

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Re: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:53:38PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
 On 5/6/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
 http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
 http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/
 
 Beautiful work Christine

For my part I especially like the first mountain picture.

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Re: PESO - sofa and window

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
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 Scott,
  So what is that?  A blurry picture of a bike seat thru your front window?
  And why are you blaming Doug?

Doesn't matter.  It's a bad picture and an even worse inside joke.  Disregard.

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Larry Colen
This isn't an exhaustive chronicle of my cars but it does have
pictures of quite a few of them from the past 20 years:

http://www.red4est.com/lrc/racer_html/schoolpix.html

A few of the racecars I've owned and/or driven:
http://www.red4est.com/lrc/racer_html/racecars.html

This'll have links to pictures of my current racecar and daily driver
http://red4est.com/miata

I took my airhead out to Thunderhill one day:
http://www.red4est.com/lrc/pix/keigwinpix/

There are quite a few Healeys in these pictures, including my Sprite
and Donald:
http://www.red4est.com/lrc/racer_html/miscpix.html

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Re: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Here are a few pics if you're interested.  Cheers, Christine

  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/

Very nice, the whole lot.  You should sweeten this one, on principle.

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:15:09AM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:

 We have a simple plan. We buy Subaru cars and Ford trucks.  Both
 have worked well for us.  Subarus have their quirks and some odd
 repairs, but are generally very reliable and handle well. 

I *hate* the steering boxes in Ford trucks. I've driven on mountain
roads in cars where I've moved the steering wheel less than the play
in most Ford truck steering boxes.

Subie's do pretty well, but if you push them at all, you *have* to
trailbrake to get them to turn in. Though powering out of the esses in
a power induced four wheel drift in a 4WD can be a lot of fun.


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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

  This'll have links to pictures of my current racecar and daily driver
  http://red4est.com/miata

About 8 years ago I almost had my wife convinced to let me turn her
'94 Miata into a Spec Miata.  Since we already had the car, the
conversion would be relatively cheap, as far as race cars go.  It was
then that she realized her baby (the car, not me) very well might not
come home intact, and that's how my racing career ended before it got
started.

Those are some really interesting photos you have there, Larry.

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Oh, I realize that.  I was trying for subtle humor, but that seldom works.

I'm just glad to see Pentax get some good reviews for its consumer
cameras in the popular press.  I think that will help Pentax sales and
the company's ability to keep manufacturing the kind of equipment we
want and need.

Dan

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 It is a fundamental law that you can't decide what a thread is going to  be 
 about, only what you're going to post to it.  Given long enough,  it'll be 
 about cars, marmoset grooming, and how to set up lighting to  take pictures 
 of paint drying.

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Re: PESO: Riding Momma

2009-06-05 Thread Jack Davis

Your eye catches so many of these cute/warm moments. I never tire of them. Made 
both me and my wife smile.
A definitive mommy shot.

Jack



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 Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 7:30 AM
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9294845size=lg
 
 K20D plus DA*60-250, f4.5 1/4000th, ISO 400, 200mm
 
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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:34:41PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
 On 6/5/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
   This'll have links to pictures of my current racecar and daily driver
   http://red4est.com/miata
 
 About 8 years ago I almost had my wife convinced to let me turn her
 '94 Miata into a Spec Miata.  Since we already had the car, the
 conversion would be relatively cheap, as far as race cars go.  It was
 then that she realized her baby (the car, not me) very well might not
 come home intact, and that's how my racing career ended before it got
 started.

1) Don't race a car that you care about.

2) It's almost always cheaper to buy a used racecar than build it
   yourself.

I'm not trying as hard as I should, but I really need to sell my
racecar. I just don't have the time and money to mount a serious
racing effort, and I spent too many years driving on the track while a
race was in progress. Though some of my best races have been for the
honor of not finishing DFL. My best race was probably one with someone
who wasn't even in the same class as I was in. His car had power, mine
had handling. 

Spec Miata is perhaps the best racing for your dollar out
there. Mazda's support of the series is amazing (parts at dealer
cost). The racing is very close. The last SCCA race I ran, qualifying
times for the row I was in and the row ahead of me spanned all of .060
seconds. That works out to about six feet over three miles.

As to reliability, it's my experience that Miata's are just slightly
more reliable than an anvil. Since driving my car in a 25 hour enduro
(we finished fifth in class http://red4est.com/enduro) I had to
clean out the gas tank and replace the fuel filter because I got water
and gunk inthe tank, plus I've changed oil, brake pads and tires.

 
 Those are some really interesting photos you have there, Larry.

Thanks. I've had fun driving pretty much anything with wheels and an
engine on the track. I'm looking forward to getting the MG back on the
road, Leroy should finish rebuilding the motor in the next week or
two. With luck, I'll have the car back on the road this summer.


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Re: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
Those offer a nice look at GFM and capture the flavor of the place.
Not bad for a 'people' photographer.  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

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 On 6/5/09, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Here are a few pics if you're interested.  Cheers, Christine

  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/

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Re: K7's at GFM

2009-06-05 Thread Miserere
Bob,

When you say:

And the USM motors in the new lenses are a bit unnerving.
They are perfectly silent.  The lens just pops into focus!

What lenses are you referring to? My experiences with the DA* 16-50
and 50-135 are certainly not of perfectly silent and popping
focus. I'm not putting them down, just saying they were neither
silent nor fast focusing.

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2009/5/31 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
 John Carlson from Pentax HQ in Colorado was at GFM.
 He brought all the toys, 2 new K7's, the DA60-250, DA55, plus
 the DA15, DA35, DA200, DA300 and other lenses I'd seen before.
 The K7 is everything it is said to be.
 Smaller, faster, better than the K20D.
 Folks were impressed by the captured image quality,
 even with pre-production versions of the software.
 And the USM motors in the new lenses are a bit unnerving.
 They are perfectly silent.  The lens just pops into focus!
 It was great to meet John and
 Thanks Pentax for sending him.
 Here's a picture of what we were drooling over.
 The K7's are right  left with Kirk or Really right stuff plates attached.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/20090530#5341963588440524354
 Gotta drive back to GFM now...
 Regards,  Bob S

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testing msg send

2009-06-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
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Re: testing msg send

2009-06-05 Thread Miserere
Ignored.

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Re: K7's at GFM

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
M,
I was trying the DA's - 60-250/4, 200/2.8, 15/4, 55/1.4 was a bit slower.
This was all compared to my usual kit of limited FA lenses.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bob,

 When you say:

 And the USM motors in the new lenses are a bit unnerving.
 They are perfectly silent.  The lens just pops into focus!

 What lenses are you referring to? My experiences with the DA* 16-50
 and 50-135 are certainly not of perfectly silent and popping
 focus. I'm not putting them down, just saying they were neither
 silent nor fast focusing.

 Cheers,


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 John Carlson from Pentax HQ in Colorado was at GFM.
 He brought all the toys, 2 new K7's, the DA60-250, DA55, plus
 the DA15, DA35, DA200, DA300 and other lenses I'd seen before.
 The K7 is everything it is said to be.
 Smaller, faster, better than the K20D.
 Folks were impressed by the captured image quality,
 even with pre-production versions of the software.
 And the USM motors in the new lenses are a bit unnerving.
 They are perfectly silent.  The lens just pops into focus!
 It was great to meet John and
 Thanks Pentax for sending him.
 Here's a picture of what we were drooling over.
 The K7's are right  left with Kirk or Really right stuff plates attached.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/20090530#5341963588440524354
 Gotta drive back to GFM now...
 Regards,  Bob S

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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:15:03AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars .  .  .
 
 Dan

Thread Nazi :-)


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Re: GFM--One

2009-06-05 Thread John Francis

Well, married to one, anyway.  But most of the time our tastes are
close enough that we'll happily watch whatever the other chooses.
She won't watch Rocky Horror or Clockwork Orange, and I could do
without Notting Hill or Bridget Jones, but that's about it.

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:30:57AM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:
 That's great, John Francis.  So I take it you are and Austen fan.  
 Cheers, Christine


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 On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 05:04:24PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:

 *any Jane Austen fans?  See Pride and Prejudice.

 Does this photograph (from a year ago) answer that question?

  http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0818


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RE: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Desjardins, Steve
LOL.  I'm not nearly this picky with cars.  The truck starts and hauls stuff 
where I want it to.  The Subaru stays on the road in bad weather.  This is what 
most folks care about, which is why the in-depth analysis of car/motorcycle 
magazines is largely useless to the average driver.  In terms of performance, 
they want reliability and reasonable pickup.  After that, the sound system, 
cool interior features, and appearance win.

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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:15:09AM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:

 We have a simple plan. We buy Subaru cars and Ford trucks.  Both
 have worked well for us.  Subarus have their quirks and some odd
 repairs, but are generally very reliable and handle well. 

I *hate* the steering boxes in Ford trucks. I've driven on mountain
roads in cars where I've moved the steering wheel less than the play
in most Ford truck steering boxes.

Subie's do pretty well, but if you push them at all, you *have* to
trailbrake to get them to turn in. Though powering out of the esses in
a power induced four wheel drift in a 4WD can be a lot of fun.


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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:47:15PM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:

 LOL.  I'm not nearly this picky with cars.  The truck starts and hauls stuff 
 where I want it to.  The Subaru stays on the road in bad weather.  This is 
 what most folks care about, which is why the in-depth analysis of 
 car/motorcycle magazines is largely useless to the average driver.  In terms 
 of performance, they want reliability and reasonable pickup.  After that, the 
 sound system, cool interior features, and appearance win.
 

With a bit of work, I could write just about the same sentence about
cameras, or stereos, stoves or computers. As long as something pretty
much does what it is supposed to, and doesn't break down too often,
most people are pretty much satisfied with it. This explains both the
Toyota Camry and the Canon EOS.

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Enablement

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
The brown truck fairy delivered a second hand FA28/2.8 AL today.  I
swear the only thing that differentiates this lens from a new one is
the lack of a box with a bunch of styrofoam inside.  Which means I'm a
happy camper.  I probably paid too much for it, but they don't seem to
come up that often.  Just out of curiosity, what were these selling
for new in the US before Pentax discontinued them?

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RE: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Desjardins, Steve
That's certainly true.  Once technology reaches a certain level, most of 
anything works fine for most people.  There are some special features (all 
wheel drive in a car) that attract folks to certain brands, but edgy 
performance is often seen as a perk.  One factor really hurting all of the 
current carmakers is that most current cars are good for much longer than the 
3-5 years trade-in time, so not buying a new car during bad times is a good 
strategy for the  individual.

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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:47:15PM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:

 LOL.  I'm not nearly this picky with cars.  The truck starts and hauls stuff 
 where I want it to.  The Subaru stays on the road in bad weather.  This is 
 what most folks care about, which is why the in-depth analysis of 
 car/motorcycle magazines is largely useless to the average driver.  In terms 
 of performance, they want reliability and reasonable pickup.  After that, the 
 sound system, cool interior features, and appearance win.
 

With a bit of work, I could write just about the same sentence about
cameras, or stereos, stoves or computers. As long as something pretty
much does what it is supposed to, and doesn't break down too often,
most people are pretty much satisfied with it. This explains both the
Toyota Camry and the Canon EOS.

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FS: Black MZ-3, PZ-1p, SMC-M 24-35mm f/3.5 zoom, SMC-M 28mm f/2

2009-06-05 Thread Joe Wilensky
A couple of the best 1990s-era autofocus film bodies and a couple of  
late '70s M-series lenses. Photos available on request. See below:



Bodies:

Black Pentax MZ-3 body: A step up from the MZ-5n/ZX-5n (one stop  
higher shutter speed, tweaked autofocus). Condition: EX to EX+, only  
odd flaw is that the paint has been removed from the plastic shutter  
release button (it's a translucent amber/off-white color now). It  
could easily be repainted, or, leave as is. Full working condition,  
clean. See http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/MZ-ZX/mzzx3.html for  
specs. This model looks great in black! (http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/MZ-ZX/MZ-3_black.gif 
) $150. Includes strap, batteries, body cap, all covers.


Black Pentax PZ-1p: EX+, no crack by battery door. Includes strap,  
body cap, all covers, battery. See http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/Z-PZ/zpz1p.html 
 for specs. $175.



Lenses:

Pentax SMC-M 24-35mm f/3.5 lens, EX+ condition, includes front  rear  
caps. See http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/short/ 
M24-35f3.5.html for info. $150.


Pentax SMC-M 28mm f/2, BGN condition (Some signs of wear, one bright  
mark/circular spot on front element 3/4 way to edge. Doesn't appear to  
affect photos).See http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/wide-angle/M28f2.html 
 for info/specs. $125.




Joe Wilensky

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Photoshop workshop question ... pdml

2009-06-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm working on a workshop proposal at present.

What would you like to see in a beyond the basics Photoshop
workshop? Consider a two-day workshop, two four-hour sessions, as the
time for a given workshop, but don't limit your ideas to just what you
think could be covered in that time.

Email either to me or to the list as you feel appropriate.
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Re: PESO - Savagenator

2009-06-05 Thread Luiz Felipe

Ah, ok... I tought it would be about violence, not plastic surgery ;-)

LF

David Savage escreveu:

GzI thought it was obvious: Scarface!!

:-)

Dave

2009/6/5 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:

That would be Alien vs. Predator? Last Tango in Paris?? Bambi???

LF

David Savage escreveu:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3592874923/
K20D  DA 21mm

Guess which movie I'm excited about seeing tomorrow.

:-D

Cheers,

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Re: Photoshop workshop question ... pdml

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm working on a workshop proposal at present.

  What would you like to see in a beyond the basics Photoshop
  workshop? Consider a two-day workshop, two four-hour sessions, as the
  time for a given workshop, but don't limit your ideas to just what you
  think could be covered in that time.

I think you could do a whole lot with black-and-white conversions.
You seem to be pretty good at it, but most of the bw conversions I
see out there are just plain flat (my own included).

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Re: OT: running a 10k

2009-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Subash wrote:

in the first week of april, some of us friends here decided to do a 10km
run in bangalore, mostly to keep some off smoking which they just given
up. most of us had no prior experience with distance running. the run
was on may 31 in bangalore, so we had about two months to train. of the
14 that started out, eight of us finished the course last sunday though
the times are nothing to write home about... but i was personally
relieved i didn't take a month after all. the full story here, for
those of you interested (not my blog) :)

http://runningmyselfin.blogspot.com/2009/06/status-update.html

Congratulations on your run! (And that's a very nice report)

Now you can start working your way up to a marathon! I'm moving to
Boston next month so you'll have a place to stay if you qualify for
the Boston Marathon - our place is actually right on the marathon
course around the 23-mile mark.
:)


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Re: Quicktime...

2009-06-05 Thread Luiz Felipe

You must be joking... Apple with problems??? Impossible...

I attended to a roadshow long ago, and one of the highlights of the 
event was a Mac with frozen system. We were just getting the operator a 
hand of applause every time the damned thing flopped.


Looong before that, I won a bet against a IIe user who tought 16 color 
video and FM synthesis sound were impossible - he never heard about the 
MSX computers. Yes, at the time the IBM clones offered 4 shades of 
green, no sound, and no one would ever need more than 640k of memory.


LF

John Sessoms escreveu:

From: Bob W
  Clearly Apple is some religion... now once upon a time there was 
a  difference - long ago, before they all started using the same  
hardware.
  Granted, their OS is better than windows - but then, what 
isn't???  :-)  


I'm reliably informed that Marburg Disease isn't.

Bob


Well, just so you know, Apple came out with an update for their 
Quicktime player, which hung up after installing and wouldn't close and 
wouldn't get out of the way so I could continue reading the thread on 
Quicktime which required Task Manager to eventually get rid of prompting 
my rant about Why does 


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Re: Photoshop workshop question ... pdml

2009-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I'm working on a workshop proposal at present.

What would you like to see in a beyond the basics Photoshop
workshop? Consider a two-day workshop, two four-hour sessions, as the
time for a given workshop, but don't limit your ideas to just what you
think could be covered in that time.

Email either to me or to the list as you feel appropriate.
All ideas welcome. Tnx!

How to use the Curves tool
How to fix/minimize blown-out highlights (shadow/highlight tool,
Levels, Curves)
Sharpening (Capture sharpening, local sharpening and output
sharpening)


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Re: OT: running a 10k

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Subash wrote:

  in the first week of april, some of us friends here decided to do a 10km
  run in bangalore, mostly to keep some off smoking which they just given
  up. most of us had no prior experience with distance running. the run
  was on may 31 in bangalore, so we had about two months to train. of the
  14 that started out, eight of us finished the course last sunday though
  the times are nothing to write home about... but i was personally
  relieved i didn't take a month after all. the full story here, for
  those of you interested (not my blog) :)
  
  http://runningmyselfin.blogspot.com/2009/06/status-update.html


 Congratulations on your run! (And that's a very nice report)

  Now you can start working your way up to a marathon! I'm moving to
  Boston next month so you'll have a place to stay if you qualify for
  the Boston Marathon - our place is actually right on the marathon
  course around the 23-mile mark.

So it's only a 3 mile jog home _after_ the marathon!

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RE: GFM--One

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
Perhaps you should introduce the Hugh Grant character to Alex and his three
droogs, Pete, Georgie and Dim. See what they make of him. I'm sure they'd
enjoy spending time with Ms Jones too.

Bob

 
 
 Well, married to one, anyway.  But most of the time our tastes are
 close enough that we'll happily watch whatever the other chooses.
 She won't watch Rocky Horror or Clockwork Orange, and I could do
 without Notting Hill or Bridget Jones, but that's about it.
 
 On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:30:57AM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:
  That's great, John Francis.  So I take it you are and Austen fan.  
  Cheers, Christine
 
 
  - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com
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  Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:40 PM
  Subject: Re: GFM--One
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 05:04:24PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:
 
  *any Jane Austen fans?  See Pride and Prejudice.
 
  Does this photograph (from a year ago) answer that question?
 
   http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0818
 


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RE: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
[...]
 Everyone 
 should be treated to the Doug and Mark show, which combines 
 the humor of a 
 hyper-kinetic Mark Roberts and a laid-back Doug Brewer.  It 
 certainly makes 
 for some hearty belly-laughs!  Well done, guys!  Really impressive!
 
[...]

Luckily there's no shortage of hearty bellies!

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RE: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
 
 On 5/6/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
 http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
 http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/
 
 Beautiful work Christine
 

I agree
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RE: PESO: Riding Momma

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
 Subject: PESO: Riding Momma
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9294845size=lg
 
 K20D plus DA*60-250, f4.5 1/4000th, ISO 400, 200mm
 
 Click to make it smaller
 
 Paul

and there was me expecting a photo from West Virginia.

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RE: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
  
  On 5/6/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/
  
  Beautiful work Christine
  
 
 I agree
 Bob
 


that bear reminds me of Salman Rushdie

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RE: OT: help identifying this car

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
  
   Ford Prefect from the late 40s, early 50s.
   John Francis gets the canoe on this one.
  
  Ah! The only one I've seen has been highly modified by a different
  generation (V8  Jaguar auto box). So that's what they 
 really look like.
 
 UK ford prefect was an entirely different animal.  Made from 
 part-recycled bean tins, sidevalve 998cc engine and three 
 speed non-synchro box; 60 mph, 20+(imp)mpg at the very, very best.
 

My Dad had one of those when we lived in Singapore.

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RE: OT: Something I don't understand about windows

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
  
   But you might have clicked End Task on the *wrong* 
 task, and the
   dialogue is giving you a chance to save yourself from 
 this grim fate.
   
   Mine end when ever they feel like it.
   
  
  The joy of Mac computers.
 
 The Joy of Macs  Why does that remind me of something?
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qabyy1fOjIg



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Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras

2009-06-05 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jun 5, 2009, at 11:24, Larry Colen wrote:


Subie's do pretty well, but if you push them at all, you *have* to
trailbrake to get them to turn in. Though powering out of the esses in
a power induced four wheel drift in a 4WD can be a lot of fun.



I simply LIVE for the 8-12 inch snowstorms when I can be the first out  
on the road in my Outback.  Fun times!


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Brite green: scene without an actor...

2009-06-05 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20090605222933
^^^ Saturation increased. Your comments appreciated...


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RE: running a 10k

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
 
 On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:42:01 +0100
 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
   http://runningmyselfin.blogspot.com/2009/06/status-update.html
 
  Well done! Before you know it you'll be indistinguishable from a
  certain mountain goat.
 
 thanks Bob. you wouldn't say that (even jokingly) if you knew 
 the time i
 took to run the 10km. :)
 
 but, it is actually part of my training for a trek in the himalayas
 this august (at 46, i *need* to train for treks in the high altitude
 himalayas). there is a glacial corridor in the garhwal himalayas, at a
 height ranging from 10,000 ft to 20,000 ft, which comes alive with
 alpine flowers for three months from june to august. it used to be the
 summer grazing grounds for the garhwal villagers' cattle and 
 used to be
 called the bhyundar valley before a mountaineer/explorer Brit called
 Frank S. Smythe discovered the place and named it the valley of
 flowers, in 1931. it is a popular trekking destination today,
 especially during the flowering season. it has also traditionally been
 a popular pilgrimage route as there are many hindu/sikh holy places
 around/near the valley. the trek route is mostly between 
 10-15,000 ft. 
 
 so, pretensions to a mountain goat, yes...:)
 
 btw, frank smythe wrote a book called the valley of flowers in 1937.
 just finished reading it (it is kept in print by a small publisher
 based in dehradun, in the garhwal himalayas)...
 
 regards, subash
 

That sounds like an interesting place - I look forward to seeing the shots.
Frank Smythe is quite well known; I think there was a documentary about him
quite recently on TV here. 

Bob


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PESO: arms recycling - nothing new

2009-06-05 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Once Napoleon was safely locked-up on St. Helena in 1815, there was an
enormous surplus of cannons in France. On the other hand, the French sea
ports were going through a period of rapid expansion and there was a
shortage of bollards, until someone had a really clever idea:

http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com/2009/06/boller-zu-pollern.html

This picture is from a recent trip to Dunkirk but it could have been
taken in most French harbours from that period.

As always...

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RE: PESO: arms recycling - nothing new

2009-06-05 Thread Bob W
 
 Once Napoleon was safely locked-up on St. Helena in 1815, there was an
 enormous surplus of cannons in France. On the other hand, the 
 French sea
 ports were going through a period of rapid expansion and there was a
 shortage of bollards, until someone had a really clever idea:
 
 http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com/2009/06/boller-zu-pollern.html
 
 This picture is from a recent trip to Dunkirk but it could have been
 taken in most French harbours from that period.
 
 As always...
 
 Ralf

there's a lot of them over here, too.

http://www.thegreenwichphantom.co.uk/2009/04/street-furniture-3-bollards.htm
l

Bob


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Re: PESO: Riding Momma

2009-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

I was a bit hesitant to open it, frankly.

On Jun 5, 2009, at 12:27 , Bob W wrote:


Subject: PESO: Riding Momma

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9294845size=lg

K20D plus DA*60-250, f4.5 1/4000th, ISO 400, 200mm

Click to make it smaller

Paul


and there was me expecting a photo from West Virginia.


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Re: PESO: Riding Momma

2009-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

But having done so, I agree with Jack's observations. I too smiled.

On Jun 5, 2009, at 09:38 , Jack Davis wrote:

Your eye catches so many of these cute/warm moments. I never tire of  
them. Made both me and my wife smile.

A definitive mommy shot.

Jack


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Re: PESO - sofa and window

2009-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

Caution... More bike porn!

On Jun 5, 2009, at 07:40 , Scott Loveless wrote:


This is all Doug's fault.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2LuHl_XCFiFjNis4jxk6AA?feat=directlink


If it doesn’t excite you,
This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
—Jay Maisel

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Re: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
Those are all very nice Christine.  You should be proud. Thanks for  
sharing with us stay-at-homes.


And thanks to the rest of you for posting your favorite shots of your  
stay at the mountain.


All Great Stuff


On Jun 5, 2009, at 07:51 , Christine Aguila wrote:


Here are a few pics if you're interested.  Cheers, Christine

http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/


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Re: GFM-Three-last one-with a few pics

2009-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
I to thought that one was special. Depth. Balance. Craggy rocks and  
lovely trees in the mist



On Jun 5, 2009, at 09:03 , Graydon wrote:


On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:53:38PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:

On 5/6/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmountain/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmthepeople/
http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/gfmsunset/


Beautiful work Christine


For my part I especially like the first mountain picture.


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