Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Igor Tue Jul 7 21:24:45 CDT 2009 paul stenquist wrote: I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax prices for an item that should be generic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - British Icon
Bob W wrote: Bob W wrote: Yes, you should. But make sure it cannot be mistaken for such a box in the UK, otherwise it will be a very boring photo. I have a slide somewhere of a British post box in the market in Zanzibar. Bob Do they smell as foul inside in these exotic places as they do here? I've never been inside a post box in Zanzibar. Or here for that matter. What have you been up to? Cheap international travel. Talking of which; I am off to welsh Wales this morning, to a place even cell phones cannot reach. Although Gurgle Earth photographed us there last year. Don't buy all the K-7s whilst I am away. However, my guess would be no, since Zanzibar is very sweetly scented with exotic spices everywhere you go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way OT @ $#*h1woman throws in towel on writing code/h1*#$@
Thanks, Jostein: I downloaded Brian's suggestion of HTML Kit today. Quite a bit nicer than Notepad, to say the least, but I'm glad I had the go with Notepad--It's given me a greater appreciate for the wonderful upgrade to HTML Kit. lol. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:09 AM Subject: Re: Way OT @ $#*h1woman throws in towel on writing code/h1*#$@ 2009/7/3 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Truth be told, despite the beginner frustration, I was enjoying learning this stuff--it's been awhile since I learned something new that was this challenging; I really enjoyed the challenge, wanted to overcome the obstacles, and my brain was feeling hot and exercised--which it hasn't felt in some time. Hey Christine, Been away for nearly two weeks, and reading this whole thread in one go... By the time I got to your post above, I was thinking that those two days must have been well spent for you. :-) Thing is, even with the best WYSIWYG editors, you will occasionally stumble onto some glitch. Either in the way the code is generated, or because you make typos that hide themselves like needles in heystacks. :-( - been there... :-) So that's where your two-day investment comes in handy. Now you know a fair bit of what's going on behind the WYS. FWIW, EditPad from JGsoft is similar to HTMLkit, but in my experience much better. As in more stable on my systems (both work and private), and more functionality. It's not freeware, however, so try the kit first. That too is a good piece of software. If it's any comfort, I spent a lot more than two days to learn HTML. :-) cheers, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: This can't be right...
...I'm sure I can remember one of my classmates doing this in the chemistry lab in 1971: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8138963.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
Porsche has retained the rear or mid- engine design with the exception of the 928, and a few of the newer vehicles which were rebadged VW/ Porsche designs. Once the Rabbit came out, VW has remained front engined ever since. On Jul 7, 2009, at 19:00 , Adam Maas wrote: True, I don't think you can really call anything after the 993 related to the Beetle by anything other than styling cues. Prior to that, the relationship was clear although the evolution was significant. -Adam On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:54 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course the relationship between the early 911s and the Beetle isn't quite as simple as Adam suggested, but the 911 was certainly a derivative of that car. Of course, later 911s evolved into something far different. Paul On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as much a pimped up a K20 as a Porsche is a pimped up Beetle. William Robb But a 911 IS a pimped up Beetle ;-) -Adam The 356 was a pimped up Beetle, the 911 was something else entirely... The 356 was a reskinned Beetle with a couple tweaks and a diet. The 911 was a chopped and pimped beetle. There's a reason you can transplant older 911 drivetrains pretty much directly into a Beetle. I've done that, it's not as easy as you think. (I've also bolted a 356 engine into a Beetle, after helping rebuild it, I know of what I speak). Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
Dave's right on about this--and more specifically the textile arts and the paper arts industry are really booming with women doing the most beautiful work--really high end stuff--and a lot of this kind of craft and art results in the combining of textile, paper, text, and photographic images for scrapbooks, fabric books, hand-crafted bookmaking, hand-crafted pop-up cards--you name it, it's being done--and it's all beautiful and hands-down creative. Moreover, Epson is well aware of the scrapbooking industry as they offer 12 x 12 inch paper, which is a standard scrapbooking size, and one can even sign up for Epson's free newsletter targeted for scrapbookers. Not all women wielding DSLRs want to be HCB or Capra, but they do want good quality photographic images for the art that they do create. - Original Message - From: David Savage p...@arach.net.au To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: RE: Changing focus area on K-7 Don't you believe it Bob. I was chatting with the owner of my local camera store last year he commented that the demographic of DSLR sales (and pro shooters) was starting to even up. Also things like scrapbooking have got the ladies more interested in higher IQ capabilities of DSLR. DS -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2009 11:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 John, It's been a while since I've conversed with Soccer Moms, but I think you are way off track. Soccer Moms buy those little point-n-shoot cameras that fit in their handbags. The 35mm SLR style digital camera is more for Dads, a serious tool for a man to hunt with and capture the moment. Something to take on vacation. Still, most will never get beyond the PS stage of use. They had best buy a K-M. The K-7 is a big 'over-kill'. Some could do it, but only the clueless. The variety of price points Pentax maintains lets them choose a cheaper alternative, not the top of the line. In the end, I don't see this feature change as being anything but minor for most folks. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote: Ms. Soccermom-Smith would probably never change lenses, never take the autofocus sensor selection off auto select which is the default option, (you'd have to dive into the main menu to do that) never shoot off the green setting, unless she changed to the preset modes, your reasoning seems unlikely, No, you just supported it. The vast majority of camera users aren't going to use advanced or custom features, just like Jane Soccermom-Smith, wife of Doug Officegrunt Smith and mother of three precious, high-energy little snowflakes. She doesn't have the time nor the interest to learn all that techno mumbo-jumbo. She just wants a camera that takes nice pictures, and she wanted the best camera she could afford. Work a week in camera retail and you'll meet a hundred people just like her. Anyway, I was just saying that the vast majority of camera users aren't going to be put off by the changes made to the buttons between the K20/200/2000 and K7, because the vast majority won't care. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT-There is hope...
Breaking News Alert The New York Times Wednesday, July 8, 2009 -- 12:39 AM ET - Google Plans to Introduce a PC Operating System In a direct challenge to Microsoft, Google is expected to announce on Wednesday that it is developing an operating system for a personal computer based on its Chrome browser, according to two people briefed on Google's plans. The move would sharpen the already intense competition between Google and Microsoft, whose Windows operating system controls the basic functions of the vast majority of personal computers. (Take that Bill ! ) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
Correction: See Below... On Jul 8, 2009, at 00:46 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Breaking News Alert The New York Times Wednesday, July 8, 2009 -- 12:39 AM ET - Google Plans to Introduce a PC Operating System In a direct challenge to Microsoft, Google is expected to announce on Wednesday that it is developing an operating system for a personal computer based on its Chrome browser, according to two people briefed on Google's plans. The move would sharpen the already intense competition between Google and Microsoft, whose Windows operating system controls the basic functions of the vast majority of personal computers. (Take that Bill ! ) That's Bill Gates, not any of you other Bills and Williams. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
The camera takes a dedicated battery. The grip has two inserts, one for the dedicated battery, one for 6 AA cells. On Jul 7, 2009, at 23:36 , Igor Roshchin wrote: I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Igor Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
Looking at the calendar, scratching my head. It ain't no stinkin' april's foist... ;-) On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: Breaking News Alert The New York Times Wednesday, July 8, 2009 -- 12:39 AM ET - Google Plans to Introduce a PC Operating System In a direct challenge to Microsoft, Google is expected to announce on Wednesday that it is developing an operating system for a personal computer based on its Chrome browser, according to two people briefed on Google's plans. The move would sharpen the already intense competition between Google and Microsoft, whose Windows operating system controls the basic functions of the vast majority of personal computers. (Take that Bill ! ) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: This can't be right...
2009/7/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com: ...I'm sure I can remember one of my classmates doing this in the chemistry lab in 1971: Please don't tell me how he employed the liquid nitrogen... :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8138963.stm Interesting. I agree with the critics on the ethical issues, though. But if they could combine the meiosis with a way to have ordinary cells re-entering an undifferentiated stem-cell stage, those issues would be avoided. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
Operating system, based on browser? Javascript as a core programming language... imagine that! :) 2009/7/8 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Looking at the calendar, scratching my head. It ain't no stinkin' april's foist... ;-) On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: Breaking News Alert The New York Times Wednesday, July 8, 2009 -- 12:39 AM ET - Google Plans to Introduce a PC Operating System In a direct challenge to Microsoft, Google is expected to announce on Wednesday that it is developing an operating system for a personal computer based on its Chrome browser, according to two people briefed on Google's plans. The move would sharpen the already intense competition between Google and Microsoft, whose Windows operating system controls the basic functions of the vast majority of personal computers. (Take that Bill ! ) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The K-7 in the Studio.
William, Does the 4-way controller operation override the setting of the AF point selection switch, or does it work as advertised only in point-selection mode? Jostein 2009/7/7 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Well, as promised, I did a model shoot with the K-7 today. I did not get out for my expedition of photographic proportion though, so to say I was a bit unfamiliar with the camera would be an understatement. The model was very understanding of my lacking of eptitude and I was getting the hang of the camera by the end of the shoot. So, where to start. The K-7 is much smaller than the K10/K20. More so than what one would think. It feels much more compact in the hand, And I found I was often over reaching for the 4 way controller. More on that fiasco in a moment. I shot almost everything today with the 70/2.4, though I did some shooting with the 55/1.4 The vertical grip is amazing. It balances perfectly with both the rather petite Limited lens, and the much larger DA* lens. Shooting horizontal felt a bit cramped, I often found myself getting lost on the 4 way switch and pressing the liveview button instead. Shooting vertically, the 4 way is a reach if I use my index finger on the shutter, switching over to using my ring finger for pressing the shutter worked a lot better. Now, about the 4 way controller. Unless I've missed something, the 4 way controller is broken. By default, it provides access to the various functions, and one has to press the OK button to get it to work as an AF point selector. Unfortunately, it won't bloody stay as a focus point controller when set to that function. It takes every possible opportunity to revert to function control. Check your exposure with the instant review, when you go to take a picture, you've lost access to focus point selection. Let the camera go to sleep, its back to function select when you wake it up. Turn it off and back on, it is on function control again. I believe I had it revert a few times just because, and not for any reason I could fathom. There is a little icon in the viewfinder that lights up to tell the operator that the focus point controller is active, but I still found it to be really annoying to have to be constantly resetting the function Note to Pentax: Please put an option in the remembered settings to allow one to choose what the 4 way switch defaults to. The user mode is still broken as far as I am concerned. I would really like the user mode to allow me to lock in a shutter speed and aperture combination by programming it in manual mode. It would also be nice to have multiple user setups available like the istD had. However, to get that I'm not willing to give anything else up. I have my user mode set up to do HDR's, since I likely won't use it for anything else. Autofocus with the 70mm lens was quick and accurate enough most of the time. The end focus point struggled a bit if I had the lights a bit far away, but the more central AF points were quick to lock with very little hunting. I'm quite certain that a timed test would show an improvement in AF speed with this lens anyway. The 55/1.4 is another story. AF was about as fast as with the K20. The camera showed no focus inaccuracy under the incandescent modeling lights, and the auto white balance is just about perfect. I shot a grand total of 1584 images in just over 2.5 hours. That works out to one shot every 5.5 seconds or some such. Other than the 4 way controller issue, the camera was flawless for the entire shoot. The camera is quiet and competent and very easy to use. There are a few major differences between it and the K20 that I found a bit confusing. as an example, I wanted to check the ISO before starting, and drew a complete blank for half a minute regarding where to find it (the button conveniently marked ISO is a good place to look). Using an Extreme III 8gb card, the file writing light flashed for perhaps a second and went out after taking a picture. The camera does write files much quicker. Interestingly, my DNG files are between 11mb and 12.5 mb. This is about half the size of a K20 DNG, so I must presume that Pentax has decided to compress them in camera. I hadn't heard anything about this during pre release discussion. Perhaps I slept through that class. Oh and, the camera doesn't use power. I did the entire shoot with the battery that came with it. After a while I kept expecting it to die on me, but it just kept going. Almost 1600 shots on a single battery using AF lenses, and I could have kept going. I do keep my chimping to a minimum, but this is still pretty impressive. The 70mm lens is one that I haven't used very often. I think that is about to change though. It is a very pleasing little lens to use, and returns really nice pictures. I have been finding manual focus under studio light to be a struggle lately, even with the 85/1.4, so I elected to go with AF. The lens performed
Re: Boris Peso #22 - Mini Israel park
What Jack and Ken said, Boris. Jostein 2009/7/7 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hi! Few shots for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/07/peso-2009-022.html Have your brutal and honest say. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
For a typical autofocus-intensive shoot; ie. bird photography, I typically alternate between multi-point AF and point-selection. The arrangement with the ring around the 4-way controller on the hitherto cameras has worked very well for this alternation. It is operable without removing the eye from the viewfinder. How does K-7 operation of the corresponding switch around the AF button work? Does the K-7 remember the selected focus point if one flips to multi-point and then back to point-selection? Jostein 2009/7/8 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: OK1000 weighs in on the subject http://www.ok1000pentax.com/2009/07/k-7-changing-11-focusing-area-point.html D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
Bob, in the horse game its the other way around. The ladies have the dslr's.:-) But, they have them set up, for the most part, as auto cameras, like some one else mentioned. I get people coming up to me quite often, now that they know me, and ask me why theri jump shots are blurry, missed the jump etc. I then ask, what shutter speed and aprture are you using, what iso are you set at, etc. I don;'t know, they say, i set it for auto. Thats for Canon and Nikon shooters. I have yet to see other than me, a Pentax camera at a horse show, so i would think a good majority of Pentax cameras are sold to people who know the brand and have some slr knowledge. I would get frustrated quikly with this AF shift think Bill has talked about. I know with my Nikons, af shift has been on the 4 way controller for years, but i can lock the controller with a quick lever shift and till use the controller to roll around menus and photos on screen. Dave On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: John, It's been a while since I've conversed with Soccer Moms, but I think you are way off track. Soccer Moms buy those little point-n-shoot cameras that fit in their handbags. The 35mm SLR style digital camera is more for Dads, a serious tool for a man to hunt with and capture the moment. Something to take on vacation. Still, most will never get beyond the PS stage of use. They had best buy a K-M. The K-7 is a big 'over-kill'. Some could do it, but only the clueless. The variety of price points Pentax maintains lets them choose a cheaper alternative, not the top of the line. In the end, I don't see this feature change as being anything but minor for most folks. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote: Ms. Soccermom-Smith would probably never change lenses, never take the autofocus sensor selection off auto select which is the default option, (you'd have to dive into the main menu to do that) never shoot off the green setting, unless she changed to the preset modes, your reasoning seems unlikely, No, you just supported it. The vast majority of camera users aren't going to use advanced or custom features, just like Jane Soccermom-Smith, wife of Doug Officegrunt Smith and mother of three precious, high-energy little snowflakes. She doesn't have the time nor the interest to learn all that techno mumbo-jumbo. She just wants a camera that takes nice pictures, and she wanted the best camera she could afford. Work a week in camera retail and you'll meet a hundred people just like her. Anyway, I was just saying that the vast majority of camera users aren't going to be put off by the changes made to the buttons between the K20/200/2000 and K7, because the vast majority won't care. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:07 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote: Oh but there IS a reason they changed it. Do you remember how many people complained about the Fn button on the K10/20D? I recall people bitching up and down this list about how they hated having to dive into a menu to change the settings contained within, how each setting should have its own button, etc. No bitching from here.:-) I liked the K10D function set up. I;m used to the Nikon menu and sub menus that seem to take for ever to get at.:-)The K10D is a breeze compared. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way OT @ $#*h1woman throws in towel on writing code/h1*#$@
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: Not a relic - a purist! I like that.:-) Way back when, during my survey days, i was one of the last to embrace the computerized transits(total stations) computers for calculations and drafting, as opposed to doing the calc;s with sliderule and log tables, and drafting with a pen, and co ordinates.(don't get me going on GPS for surveyors:-)) They had a word for me then, and purist was not it. Dave I use TextPad. Bob I use both hands and notepad or test wrangler(mac). I'm a relic.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looks like my red flower over saturation is not just a Pentax thing.
I'm trying that method with some success. My other option is only shoot yellow flowers.;-) Dave On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect the red in many flowers (daffodils, anyone?) is very close to the red lenslets covering 25% of non-foveon camera sensors. As such, they just oversaturate if the rest of the scene is spot on. My technique: Got to the HSL adjustments in ACR and desaturate the red channel. It's amazing how much detail is there once you jack the slider down. Anyone do anything different? --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2009/7/3 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:05 AM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: ihateredTook a few flower shots at my sister's place on Wednesday, and a few were of red flowers, using the D200 and Tamron 90 f2.8 macro. Just looking at these in LR and the red is WAAY over blown/saturated. I shoot lots of flowers and I think this isn't just a D200 problem or a Nikon problem, it's a digital-camera-sensor problem in general. I've never used a digital camera of any make or model that could deal with really intense floral reds, particularly when there's sunlight anywhere nearby. We've got an azalea in our front yard that turns into a shocking mass of intense slightly-violet red every May, and I've been trying to capture the effect with various cameras since 1997 when we bought the place. No luck so far. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital Prime Lens Recommendation
My 16-45 f4 is mostly used for walk around shooting. Quite a nice lens for the price. I bought a DFA 50 f2.8 macro last year and it does a very good job, but its pricey. Maybe the older FA 50 macro, they are around still and less then the DFA. Dave On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: 1. I am lazy. I often want to leave my camera bag home, or at the hotel, and walk with just my camera and the lens attached to it. Zoom lenses, of course, have their limitations. I fondly recall the old days, when I went most everywhere with just my Asahi Spotmatic and a Super Takumar 50mm f1.4. What would you recommend as the most versatile and useful reasonably priced prime lens for a Pentax digital? 2. Similarly, what do people find to be the best reasonably priced macro lens for a Pentax digital? I know these are broad questions, but any guidance from this august group would be greatly appreciated. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris Peso #22 - Mini Israel park
Boris, under the blue sky is my favorite. Dave On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Few shots for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/07/peso-2009-022.html Have your brutal and honest say. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 Comparison?
2009/7/8 William Robb war...@gmail.com: I can think of several things I'd rather do, but as most of them involve middle aged women and leather straps, I expect I'll just post high ISO pictures from both cameras. So, high ISO shots of middle-aged women and leather straps? My wife does question when I look at images containing both. One OR the other is fine though. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 78 rules of photography
Den 7. juli. 2009 kl. 04.34 skrev paul stenquist: On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:25:34 -0400, you wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:28:51 -0400, you wrote: Ken Waller wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:51:13 -0400, you wrote: On 7/3/09, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I'll feel a lot more confident now that I am aware of the rules of sausage photography (no. 36) January 2010 PUG - Sausage! Sounds like a wiener to me. Hot Dog I couldn't think of a wurst subject I had to chime in so I could ketchup Admit it, you relish threads like this. Yeah I do, it would leave me in a pickle if I didn't. I was always confident you'd be able to cut the mustard. Some of the pun threads here are bad, but this one is the wurst. Doh! I'm the wurst. I posted a repeat pun. Grounds for PDML banishment. Or at the very least, a flogging. On the buns perhaps? No, this is the wurst: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bilder/vis_bilde.cgi?id=103007 DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 10:24:45PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit: I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax prices for an item that should be generic. It's not a generic item, though; the energy density figures for the K-7 battery are state of the art. The necessary QA and manufacturing precision are going to put it in the same class as high-end Li+ laptop batteries (=get this wrong, watch the nasty chemical fire devour the device). The good side is you get 1600+ shots/battery; the downside is that the battery is expensive. And since the volume on K-7s will be relatively low, so is the incentive to produce a generic version of this specific high end battery. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
On Wed, July 8, 2009 09:46, Joseph McAllister wrote: Google Plans to Introduce a PC Operating System Google will be the new Microsoft! Run away! Run away! Run away! Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris Peso #22 - Mini Israel park
Interesting. Under the Blue Sky is probably my favorite. Good exposure there to preserve the sky tonality Paul On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:19 AM, AlunFoto wrote: What Jack and Ken said, Boris. Jostein 2009/7/7 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hi! Few shots for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/07/peso-2009-022.html Have your brutal and honest say. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 Comparison?
I can think of several things I'd rather do, but as most of them involve middle aged women and leather straps, I expect I'll just post high ISO pictures from both cameras. So, high ISO shots of middle-aged women and leather straps? My wife does question when I look at images containing both. One OR the other is fine though. So High-ISO shots are fine, and shots of middle aged women in leather straps too? What does she object to in the combination, the lack of IQ in her bondage porn? :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Way OT @ $#*h1woman throws in towel on writing code/h1*#$@
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:29 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: Not a relic - a purist! I like that.:-) Way back when, during my survey days, i was one of the last to embrace the computerized transits(total stations) computers for calculations and drafting, as opposed to doing the calc;s with sliderule and log tables, and drafting with a pen, and co ordinates.(don't get me going on GPS for surveyors:-)) Slide rule. Log tables. M. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is Opteka 85mm f/1.4 ?
On 7/7/09, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All, I just noticed this lens: Opteka 85mm f/1.4 I don't think I ever heard of this brand. What is it? Has anybody tried this lens? I have the Samyang version. More than acceptable. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_03/09_03_prestudio/index.htm Is this it? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/614839-REG/Bower_SLY85P_85mm_f_1_4_Manual_Focus.html#reviews -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
Two examples, list of august 2008 - new list: DA 12-24: 699 - 1299 DA 35 Limited: 399 - 729 Somewhat above inflation and in no relation to recent exchange rate variations. I checked myself by now, since both 2007 and 2008 are still on their site. They raised the price of about 300 products significantly, most of it +20% and more. DA 16-50/2.8:829 - 1199 DA 300/4.0: 1199 - 1699 645: FA 45/2.8: 949 - 1449 FA* 300/4.0:4399 - 6379 ... and many more up to 70%: FA 120/4.0 1299 - 2199 Some more highlights: Frontdeckel 10-17 mm 24.99 - 59.90 (+ 140%) K-Adapter/M42 29.90 - 74.90 (+ 150%) Blitzschuhadapter F35.90 - 92.90 (+ 160%) Frontdeckel 35 Macro9.99 - 39.99 (+ 300%) SMC-A 1.4x S 279 - 1599 (+ 473%) SMC-A 1.4x L 449 - 2399 (+ 434%) SMC-A 2.0x S 489 - 2599 (+ 431%) SMC-A 2.0x L 669 - 2199 (+ 229%) -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris Peso #22 - Mini Israel park
On Tue, July 7, 2009 18:55, Boris Liberman wrote: Have your brutal and honest say. Nice pictures, like to go there. They remembered me of those picture I recently found: http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/2009/07/02/tiltshift-aus-bremerhaven-und-internetausdrucker/ But those photos of Bremerhaven are no models, just a cool effect. BTW why does this Egged logo (almost) look like the Raiffeisen logo? http://www.geniacs.com/img/raiffeisen.jpg Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
K-Adapter/M42 29.90 - 74.90 (+ 150%) 75 euros for piece of steel... shameful. SMC-A 1.4x S 279 - 1599 (+ 473%) SMC-A 1.4x L 449 - 2399 (+ 434%) SMC-A 2.0x S 489 - 2599 (+ 431%) SMC-A 2.0x L 669 - 2199 (+ 229%) I remember 2006, when 1.7x AF tele-converter was about $150. And it was (for me) rather expensive to buy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
One should go to the source: the article in NYT reads (at least currently, at 8:15 EDT): In a direct challenge to Microsoft, Google announced late Tuesday that it is developing an operating system for PCs that is tied to its Chrome Web browser. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/technology/companies/08operate.html _tied_ , not based. Igor Wed Jul 8 04:14:04 CDT 2009 Juriy Lukin wrote: Operating system, based on browser? Javascript as a core programming language... imagine that! :) 2009/7/8 Boris Liberman boris71 at gmail.com: Looking at the calendar, scratching my head. It ain't no stinkin' april's foist... ;-) On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Joseph McAllisterpentaxian at mac.com wrote: Breaking News Alert The New York Times Wednesday, July 8, 2009 -- 12:39 AM ET - Google Plans to Introduce a PC Operating System In a direct challenge to Microsoft, Google is expected to announce on Wednesday that it is developing an operating system for a personal computer based on its Chrome browser, according to two people briefed on Google's plans. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Interesting personal facts, for me any way.
Just did some checking of photo folders. Don';t ask why, i have a ton of house work to do. I keep my photos filed in sub folders for camera gear used and then date folders in side those. I was looking around for photos for possible fair entries and noticed this. Prior to my giving up equine photography for profit, my Nikon sub folders out numbered my Pentax sub folders by 4 to 1. This year i have 31 Pentax sub folders and 13 Nikon sub folders. I see a trend developing here. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is Opteka 85mm f/1.4 ?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/7/09, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All, I just noticed this lens: Opteka 85mm f/1.4 I don't think I ever heard of this brand. What is it? Has anybody tried this lens? I have the Samyang version. More than acceptable. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_03/09_03_prestudio/index.htm Is this it? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/614839-REG/Bower_SLY85P_85mm_f_1_4_Manual_Focus.html#reviews One person likes it at least. Dave -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
I checked myself by now, since both 2007 and 2008 are still on their site. I found my 2005 list now as well: http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg274600.html I do not know about the prices before, but the prices remained all the same for 2005/2007/2008. Spreading 20 % across four years would be 4.7 %/year - still much more than the local inflation, but not that exaggerated (2005: 1.5%, 2006: 1.6%, 2007:2.3%, 2008:2.6%, total since 2005: 6.6%) - Martin -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The K-7 in the Studio.
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: The K-7 in the Studio. William, Does the 4-way controller operation override the setting of the AF point selection switch, or does it work as advertised only in point-selection mode? If the AF switch is set to anything other than select, the 4 way switch won't go into AF point selection. Note to Pentax: All you have to do is make the default setting for the 4 way switch AF point selection when the AF switch is in select, with the OK button working like the Fn button used to work. It seems a bit bizarre that the only time the 4 way switch can be used for AF point selection, the camera actively tries to defeat that function. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
AlunFoto wrote: For a typical autofocus-intensive shoot; ie. bird photography, I typically alternate between multi-point AF and point-selection. The arrangement with the ring around the 4-way controller on the hitherto cameras has worked very well for this alternation. It is operable without removing the eye from the viewfinder. How does K-7 operation of the corresponding switch around the AF button work? The AF button is now separate, but it still has the Single/SEL/Auto ring around it. The Directional pad (D-pad) is now around the OK button and is no longer a ring but four buttons offering what was under the Function button on earlier cameras, unless you push the OK button when using SEL, then they are up/down/left/right. See earlier discussion on this. As I mentioned a while back, the D-pad, due to the larger LCD, is farther to the right now, so some thumb adjustment is necessary. It is still usable with the camera to the eye. Does the K-7 remember the selected focus point if one flips to multi-point and then back to point-selection? Yes -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
If my camera was given to abhorrent behavior and doing strange things on its own, I wonder if I wouldn't think it was possessed. I know I'd be jealous if took better pictures without me. I can understand the frustration if it seems unpredictable, but the buttons' AF point selection and reversion to Fn should be entirely predictable, based on the criteria of the manual that explicitly states that changing modes on the camera reverts the buttons to Fn. That sounds in keeping with what most K-7 users have seen so far. If you know what to expect, there's no mystery. I think we need a few more people to verify William's observation of the arbitrary reversions. I know I've seen cameras do strange things, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. In so far as the manual is concerned (p. 124), if you switch AF modes, the AF point is stored, even if you turn the camera off. Michael Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:20:25 +0200 From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 For a typical autofocus-intensive shoot; ie. bird photography, I typically alternate between multi-point AF and point-selection. The arrangement with the ring around the 4-way controller on the hitherto cameras has worked very well for this alternation. It is operable without removing the eye from the viewfinder. How does K-7 operation of the corresponding switch around the AF button work? Does the K-7 remember the selected focus point if one flips to multi-point and then back to point-selection? Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - 4th of July parade
http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2009/07/purcellville-va-4th-of-july-parade.html Just a few of the shots from last weekend's parade down Main Street. I'm enjoying small town living. :-) -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
On Jul 7, 2009, at 22:16, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, It's been a while since I've conversed with Soccer Moms, but I think you are way off track. Soccer Moms buy those little point-n-shoot cameras that fit in their handbags. The 35mm SLR style digital camera is more for Dads, a serious tool for a man to hunt with and capture the moment. Something to take on vacation. I beg to disagree... most times when I'm out in public and I spot another Pentax, it's being used by a woman. 4 out of 5 times! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
Some more statistics: smc35: +76% smc35: +30% without smc-A convertors smc645: +43% smc67: +15% all:+33.5% Mostly some bags kept their price. Not a single product became cheaper, not even the K20D. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
- Original Message - From: Michael Gaudet Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 If my camera was given to abhorrent behavior and doing strange things on its own, I wonder if I wouldn't think it was possessed. I know I'd be jealous if took better pictures without me. I can understand the frustration if it seems unpredictable, but the buttons' AF point selection and reversion to Fn should be entirely predictable, based on the criteria of the manual that explicitly states that changing modes on the camera reverts the buttons to Fn. That sounds in keeping with what most K-7 users have seen so far. If you know what to expect, there's no mystery. I think we need a few more people to verify William's observation of the arbitrary reversions. I know I've seen cameras do strange things, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. In so far as the manual is concerned (p. 124), if you switch AF modes, the AF point is stored, even if you turn the camera off. Here's arbitrary for you: Put the camera into Tv, switch the AF selector to on. Change the camera to manual and try to select an AF point. Even though the AF point selector icon is still lit in the viewfinder, the switch has reverted to function mode and you have lost AF point selection until you turn it back on. The camera has made a decision for you regarding what the 4 way controller is doing. Pressing the info button turns off AF point selection, pressing the exposure compensation button turns off AF point selection, checking the review screen to see if you have an acceptable exposure turns off AF point selection. Sure, this is all mentioned in the manual, but these are all buttons that are normally used while working with the camera as part of SOP, and the camera should not be cancelling my settings and imposing settings of it's own on me. I want my hammer to pound in the nail I tell it to, not the one that it decides to pound in. Even having to press the OK button after I've told the camera I want AF point selection is the camera making a wrong decision for me. Switching the AF controller to select should be enough of a hint for the camera that it should default the 4 way to AF point selection without having to be told repeatedly that this is what the operator wants. This may not seem like a big deal, but it is the camera operating in a non intuitive fashion, and frankly, it is a royal pain in the ass if you use AF point selection as SOP (I do). The function of the 4 way switch is broken, it's as simple as that. It should stay in focus point selection until told otherwise, and should default back to focus point selection when the AF switch is set to select, not the other way around. The firmware revision to fix it can come none to soon . William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
John and Dave, Well, I stand corrected. I'll have to spend more time looking at who has what cameras. I'm a bit befuddled as my sister the art teacher and crafter gave up the DS and went back to her Sony PS. And my daughter the quilter traded the Pentax PS for a Canon PS. Dave, does this mean you can hang around camera stores and pick up girls? Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM, David Savagep...@arach.net.au wrote: Don't you believe it Bob. I was chatting with the owner of my local camera store last year he commented that the demographic of DSLR sales (and pro shooters) was starting to even up. Also things like scrapbooking have got the ladies more interested in higher IQ capabilities of DSLR. DS -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2009 11:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 John, It's been a while since I've conversed with Soccer Moms, but I think you are way off track. Soccer Moms buy those little point-n-shoot cameras that fit in their handbags. The 35mm SLR style digital camera is more for Dads, a serious tool for a man to hunt with and capture the moment. Something to take on vacation. Still, most will never get beyond the PS stage of use. They had best buy a K-M. The K-7 is a big 'over-kill'. Some could do it, but only the clueless. The variety of price points Pentax maintains lets them choose a cheaper alternative, not the top of the line. In the end, I don't see this feature change as being anything but minor for most folks. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote: Ms. Soccermom-Smith would probably never change lenses, never take the autofocus sensor selection off auto select which is the default option, (you'd have to dive into the main menu to do that) never shoot off the green setting, unless she changed to the preset modes, your reasoning seems unlikely, No, you just supported it. The vast majority of camera users aren't going to use advanced or custom features, just like Jane Soccermom-Smith, wife of Doug Officegrunt Smith and mother of three precious, high-energy little snowflakes. She doesn't have the time nor the interest to learn all that techno mumbo-jumbo. She just wants a camera that takes nice pictures, and she wanted the best camera she could afford. Work a week in camera retail and you'll meet a hundred people just like her. Anyway, I was just saying that the vast majority of camera users aren't going to be put off by the changes made to the buttons between the K20/200/2000 and K7, because the vast majority won't care. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 Dave, does this mean you can hang around camera stores and pick up girls? It helps if you have a pretty dog. I took Bella into my pusher's store one day and have every female employeee in the place (I think there were 6 of them) all vying for her attention. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
Bill, Did you learn that from Phil Greenspan over at Photo.net? :-) I believe he does the same. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:29 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 Dave, does this mean you can hang around camera stores and pick up girls? It helps if you have a pretty dog. I took Bella into my pusher's store one day and have every female employeee in the place (I think there were 6 of them) all vying for her attention. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
- Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit? I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Hi Igor; The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion battery D-LI90, or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries. No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those battery types. Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery. The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card, the AA tray will not. Neither tray will hold the small remote control. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
Sorry, not. The vast majority will never enable the advanced features. They change doesn't effect them. They can't complain about accidentally changing the focus point because they can't change the focus point! The focus point control is a primary shooting function. The rap against ISO being hidden in a menu was that it had become primary shooting parameter that you would change on the fly. Look Pentax listened and there's a dedicated ISO button. What in the function menu would you change on the fly? Lets look at the current default use of the rocker buttons. Jump to user settings? Unlikely, if you have specific settings you prefer, or you need in a particular situation it you'll set those before you start shooting, not something you're likely to have to do particularly often. Drive mode? I don't know about you but I pick the drive mode. continuous, single, or bracket, I think I'll need ahead of time based on what I'll be shooting, set it one and use it. Having to immediately set the self timer? Mirror lockup? I don't need those immediately, I'll be setting up a tripod first. So will most people. Being able to cancel them instantly, might be important though... White Balance? Almost all white balance decisions take thought, changing it on the fly seems highly unlikely. Flash Mode? OK, now that might be nice, just putting all of the flash functions in one place and not requiring entry to the main menu for flash compensation is cool, but once again it's not something you'll do with the camera at your eye. You'll take a shot review it and set compensation. There's already a dedicated button to raise the flash and turn it on. Changing Flash Mode on the fly? You'll pick the one you need for you flash setup and leave it there. None of the functions that are immediately enabled are needed when the camera is at eye level. All are by that definition secondary , in some cases terceriary shooting functions. The sensor I want to use for auto focus is an immediate ie shooting decision. In fact most of the parameters you can change immediately I wouldn't want to accidentally change. It's broken. John Celio wrote: Ms. Soccermom-Smith would probably never change lenses, never take the autofocus sensor selection off auto select which is the default option, (you'd have to dive into the main menu to do that) never shoot off the green setting, unless she changed to the preset modes, your reasoning seems unlikely, No, you just supported it. The vast majority of camera users aren't going to use advanced or custom features, just like Jane Soccermom-Smith, wife of Doug Officegrunt Smith and mother of three precious, high-energy little snowflakes. She doesn't have the time nor the interest to learn all that techno mumbo-jumbo. She just wants a camera that takes nice pictures, and she wanted the best camera she could afford. Work a week in camera retail and you'll meet a hundred people just like her. Anyway, I was just saying that the vast majority of camera users aren't going to be put off by the changes made to the buttons between the K20/200/2000 and K7, because the vast majority won't care. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 Bill, Did you learn that from Phil Greenspan over at Photo.net? :-) I believe he does the same. Nope. I figured that one out all by myself. We've always had a dog that was somewhat of a chick magnet. Zenit was a very pretty little dog as well. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 None of the functions that are immediately enabled are needed when the camera is at eye level. All are by that definition secondary , in some cases terceriary shooting functions. The sensor I want to use for auto focus is an immediate ie shooting decision. In fact most of the parameters you can change immediately I wouldn't want to accidentally change. It's broken. My God!! Peter, we agree. There's hope for us after all. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Prairie Gallery
- Original Message - From: Subash Subject: Re: Another Prairie Gallery http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/June22/index.html Bill, enjoyed going through the gallery and the sense of space they have...superb gallery. Hi Subash, sorry for the late reply. Thanks very much for your kind words about my photography. Best bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - 4th of July parade
Very nice photographic documentation of an interesting event. Dan On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Christianchrist...@skofteland.net wrote: http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2009/07/purcellville-va-4th-of-july-parade.html Just a few of the shots from last weekend's parade down Main Street. I'm enjoying small town living. :-) -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
I never disagreed with that. But unlike Adam, (based on his comment), I have worked on them and while a Porsche speedster and a VW Beetle are close enough that you can simply bolt most VW parts to the Porsche and vice versa, the 911 has evolved to the point that you must use much larger subsystems, and the operation usually requires some custom surgery. paul stenquist wrote: Of course the relationship between the early 911s and the Beetle isn't quite as simple as Adam suggested, but the 911 was certainly a derivative of that car. Of course, later 911s evolved into something far different. Paul On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as much a pimped up a K20 as a Porsche is a pimped up Beetle. William Robb But a 911 IS a pimped up Beetle ;-) -Adam The 356 was a pimped up Beetle, the 911 was something else entirely... The 356 was a reskinned Beetle with a couple tweaks and a diet. The 911 was a chopped and pimped beetle. There's a reason you can transplant older 911 drivetrains pretty much directly into a Beetle. I've done that, it's not as easy as you think. (I've also bolted a 356 engine into a Beetle, after helping rebuild it, I know of what I speak). -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Prairie Gallery
I love the lonely barn. Dan On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:49 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Subash Subject: Re: Another Prairie Gallery http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/June22/index.html Bill, enjoyed going through the gallery and the sense of space they have...superb gallery. Hi Subash, sorry for the late reply. Thanks very much for your kind words about my photography. Best bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home! Paul On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:42 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit? I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Hi Igor; The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion battery D-LI90, or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries. No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those battery types. Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery. The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card, the AA tray will not. Neither tray will hold the small remote control. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital Prime Lens Recommendation
Thanks for your responses and your recommendations. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
You need the, (not yet available in the US apparently), grip to use AA batteries. Igor Roshchin wrote: I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Igor Tue Jul 7 21:24:45 CDT 2009 paul stenquist wrote: I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax prices for an item that should be generic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit? I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home! Honestly, I would rather lose the spare card slot and keep the remote slot. I'm generally shooting with 16gb cards, so my need for a spare card in the camera is quite rare. OTOH, when I want a remote control, the wired one never seems to be where it is supposed to be. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: This can't be right...
I think sperm like is a better description, it seems the little fellows aren't actually that motile. Bob W wrote: ...I'm sure I can remember one of my classmates doing this in the chemistry lab in 1971: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8138963.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit? You need the, (not yet available in the US apparently), grip to use AA batteries. Correct. The camera body will only use the dedicated battery. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Prairie Gallery
- Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: Another Prairie Gallery I love the lonely barn. Thanks Dan. I appreciate the comments. William Robb http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/June22/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
Well, the New Beetle isn't even close to the same car as the original. Not even the same concept, the original Beetle was easy to repair with minimal tools for one thing. The New Beetle was meant to capitalize on nostalgia without invoking any of the grittiness of the actual past... Joseph McAllister wrote: Porsche has retained the rear or mid- engine design with the exception of the 928, and a few of the newer vehicles which were rebadged VW/Porsche designs. Once the Rabbit came out, VW has remained front engined ever since. On Jul 7, 2009, at 19:00 , Adam Maas wrote: True, I don't think you can really call anything after the 993 related to the Beetle by anything other than styling cues. Prior to that, the relationship was clear although the evolution was significant. -Adam On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:54 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course the relationship between the early 911s and the Beetle isn't quite as simple as Adam suggested, but the 911 was certainly a derivative of that car. Of course, later 911s evolved into something far different. Paul On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as much a pimped up a K20 as a Porsche is a pimped up Beetle. William Robb But a 911 IS a pimped up Beetle ;-) -Adam The 356 was a pimped up Beetle, the 911 was something else entirely... The 356 was a reskinned Beetle with a couple tweaks and a diet. The 911 was a chopped and pimped beetle. There's a reason you can transplant older 911 drivetrains pretty much directly into a Beetle. I've done that, it's not as easy as you think. (I've also bolted a 356 engine into a Beetle, after helping rebuild it, I know of what I speak). Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Choosing the best from 1600+ files
Gads. I decided to just give the whole lot over to the model and let her pick what she likes. I can't be bothered. Set up action: Open file/ new layer/ portraiture filter x 2/ reduce opacity on layer to 85%/ flatten image/ save as jpeg to new location. The Portraiture filter is a resource pig and ups the processing time per file to 45 seconds. It should only take 22 hours to batch process this lot. I'm glad I have a fast machine. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
Hum,. so if you switch to Google's browser you'd be trading the iron fist for a velvet glove on the iron fist? Joseph McAllister wrote: Breaking News Alert The New York Times Wednesday, July 8, 2009 -- 12:39 AM ET - Google Plans to Introduce a PC Operating System In a direct challenge to Microsoft, Google is expected to announce on Wednesday that it is developing an operating system for a personal computer based on its Chrome browser, according to two people briefed on Google's plans. The move would sharpen the already intense competition between Google and Microsoft, whose Windows operating system controls the basic functions of the vast majority of personal computers. (Take that Bill ! ) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
But William, as you said yourself below, this is all mentioned in the manual. It's not doing anything that you don't have control over and can't anticipate. It's not arbitrary. You're changing modes. The only thing I can't figure out is if it's undocumented that pressing the Exposure Compensation button has any effect, as you says it does. That's not what Pentax is saying, but if it happens for everyone, then it needs to be documented and fixed IMHO. Also, if the Fn buttons aren't useful to you when your eye is at the viewfinder, how is that camera suppose to know that? What about when you're using Live View? How is the camera suppose to know I'm composing the shot now? Well, the designers said, the user will press the OK button to make the switch to AF positioning. In a perfect world, the camera would read your mind, I'm sure. But I don't think it's too much trouble to anticipate pressing OK after a person change modes (Info, AV, etc.). You're commanding the camera to tell it, I'm in a focusing routine now. That feels like control to me. Michael Here's arbitrary for you: Put the camera into Tv, switch the AF selector to on. Change the camera to manual and try to select an AF point. Even though the AF point selector icon is still lit in the viewfinder, the switch has reverted to function mode and you have lost AF point selection until you turn it back on. The camera has made a decision for you regarding what the 4 way controller is doing. Pressing the info button turns off AF point selection, pressing the exposure compensation button turns off AF point selection, checking the review screen to see if you have an acceptable exposure turns off AF point selection. Sure, this is all mentioned in the manual, but these are all buttons that are normally used while working with the camera as part of SOP, and the camera should not be cancelling my settings and imposing settings of it's own on me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
The New Beetle is a Golf. -Adam On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:05 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the New Beetle isn't even close to the same car as the original. Not even the same concept, the original Beetle was easy to repair with minimal tools for one thing. The New Beetle was meant to capitalize on nostalgia without invoking any of the grittiness of the actual past... Joseph McAllister wrote: Porsche has retained the rear or mid- engine design with the exception of the 928, and a few of the newer vehicles which were rebadged VW/Porsche designs. Once the Rabbit came out, VW has remained front engined ever since. On Jul 7, 2009, at 19:00 , Adam Maas wrote: True, I don't think you can really call anything after the 993 related to the Beetle by anything other than styling cues. Prior to that, the relationship was clear although the evolution was significant. -Adam On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:54 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course the relationship between the early 911s and the Beetle isn't quite as simple as Adam suggested, but the 911 was certainly a derivative of that car. Of course, later 911s evolved into something far different. Paul On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as much a pimped up a K20 as a Porsche is a pimped up Beetle. William Robb But a 911 IS a pimped up Beetle ;-) -Adam The 356 was a pimped up Beetle, the 911 was something else entirely... The 356 was a reskinned Beetle with a couple tweaks and a diet. The 911 was a chopped and pimped beetle. There's a reason you can transplant older 911 drivetrains pretty much directly into a Beetle. I've done that, it's not as easy as you think. (I've also bolted a 356 engine into a Beetle, after helping rebuild it, I know of what I speak). Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 78 rules of photography
DagT wrote: Den 7. juli. 2009 kl. 04.34 skrev paul stenquist: On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:25:34 -0400, you wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:28:51 -0400, you wrote: Ken Waller wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:51:13 -0400, you wrote: On 7/3/09, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I'll feel a lot more confident now that I am aware of the rules of sausage photography (no. 36) January 2010 PUG - Sausage! Sounds like a wiener to me. Hot Dog I couldn't think of a wurst subject I had to chime in so I could ketchup Admit it, you relish threads like this. Yeah I do, it would leave me in a pickle if I didn't. I was always confident you'd be able to cut the mustard. Some of the pun threads here are bad, but this one is the wurst. Doh! I'm the wurst. I posted a repeat pun. Grounds for PDML banishment. Or at the very least, a flogging. On the buns perhaps? No, this is the wurst: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bilder/vis_bilde.cgi?id=103007 DagT Ooh, deep fried. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is Opteka 85mm f/1.4 ?
and the Vivitar etc. Scott Loveless wrote: On 7/7/09, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All, I just noticed this lens: Opteka 85mm f/1.4 I don't think I ever heard of this brand. What is it? Has anybody tried this lens? I have the Samyang version. More than acceptable. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_03/09_03_prestudio/index.htm Is this it? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/614839-REG/Bower_SLY85P_85mm_f_1_4_Manual_Focus.html#reviews -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
It's a precision cut piece of steal, and the price hadn't changed in 20-30 years. The new price does seem a bit excessive. Juriy Lukin wrote: K-Adapter/M42 29.90 - 74.90 (+ 150%) 75 euros for piece of steel... shameful. SMC-A 1.4x S 279 - 1599 (+ 473%) SMC-A 1.4x L 449 - 2399 (+ 434%) SMC-A 2.0x S 489 - 2599 (+ 431%) SMC-A 2.0x L 669 - 2199 (+ 229%) I remember 2006, when 1.7x AF tele-converter was about $150. And it was (for me) rather expensive to buy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It's a precision cut piece of steal :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 11:08:36AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit: Hum,. so if you switch to Google's browser you'd be trading the iron fist for a velvet glove on the iron fist? Nah, ten thousand distributed fingers incorporating a variety of task-appropriate materials. The real potential advantage to this is that Google has been in the OS business for years; all their clever online stuff depends on their having this massively distributed computing ability, and it didn't exist so they had to build it. As a result, and *unlike* Microsoft, they actually understand software engineering and management large projects. (Remember that Bill wrote a basic interpreter _himself_. A righteous accomplishment for the time, but not something that teaches you large project management...) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
- Original Message - From: Michael Gaudet Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 But William, as you said yourself below, this is all mentioned in the manual. It's not doing anything that you don't have control over and can't anticipate. It's not arbitrary. You're changing modes. The only thing I can't figure out is if it's undocumented that pressing the Exposure Compensation button has any effect, as you says it does. That's not what Pentax is saying, but if it happens for everyone, then it needs to be documented and fixed IMHO. Also, if the Fn buttons aren't useful to you when your eye is at the viewfinder, how is that camera suppose to know that? What about when you're using Live View? How is the camera suppose to know I'm composing the shot now? Well, the designers said, the user will press the OK button to make the switch to AF positioning. In a perfect world, the camera would read your mind, I'm sure. But I don't think it's too much trouble to anticipate pressing OK after a person change modes (Info, AV, etc.). You're commanding the camera to tell it, I'm in a focusing routine now. That feels like control to me. When I switch the AF swith to select I am telling the camera what I want from it. I am telling the camera right then and there that I want AF point selection. As soon as the camera makes me push a button to get back to what I've told it I want, it is getting in the way of my operation. The only time the camera gives me AF point selection as an option is when the AF button is in in SEL, and the camera is taking every opportunity possible to revert out of that option when I've told it (and I have to tell it twice, once when I switch the AF mode and once when it makes me press the OK button). I'm not asking the camera to read my mind, I'm asking that the camera not try to read my mind. I'm asking that the camera holds the settings that I impose on it until I change them. The fact that they have documented that they have screwed up the AF point selection setting doesn't mean that it isn't screwed up. That they have a fix in the works (according to Dario) tells me that they realize they screwed up. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
The thing that disturbs me is that shooting functions should be the default when you're shooting, setup functions should be enabled when setting up. Most of the functions enabled by default using the four way selector switch are more like setup functions, (except for the flash compensation control). They put a locking button on the mode dial and take away direct access to the AF sensor in AF sensor select mode? That makes no sense at all from a usability standpoint It does maintain consistency in a small way, but sometimes consistency has to be sacrificed to usability. Michael Gaudet wrote: If my camera was given to abhorrent behavior and doing strange things on its own, I wonder if I wouldn't think it was possessed. I know I'd be jealous if took better pictures without me. I can understand the frustration if it seems unpredictable, but the buttons' AF point selection and reversion to Fn should be entirely predictable, based on the criteria of the manual that explicitly states that changing modes on the camera reverts the buttons to Fn. That sounds in keeping with what most K-7 users have seen so far. If you know what to expect, there's no mystery. I think we need a few more people to verify William's observation of the arbitrary reversions. I know I've seen cameras do strange things, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. In so far as the manual is concerned (p. 124), if you switch AF modes, the AF point is stored, even if you turn the camera off. Michael Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:20:25 +0200 From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 For a typical autofocus-intensive shoot; ie. bird photography, I typically alternate between multi-point AF and point-selection. The arrangement with the ring around the 4-way controller on the hitherto cameras has worked very well for this alternation. It is operable without removing the eye from the viewfinder. How does K-7 operation of the corresponding switch around the AF button work? Does the K-7 remember the selected focus point if one flips to multi-point and then back to point-selection? Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand It's a precision cut piece of steal, and the price hadn't changed in 20-30 years. The new price does seem a bit excessive. Perhaps they are trying to drive new lens sales. William Robb K-Adapter/M42 29.90 - 74.90 (+ 150%) 75 euros for piece of steel... shameful. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
I won't say I haven't tried... Bob Sullivan wrote: John and Dave, Well, I stand corrected. I'll have to spend more time looking at who has what cameras. I'm a bit befuddled as my sister the art teacher and crafter gave up the DS and went back to her Sony PS. And my daughter the quilter traded the Pentax PS for a Canon PS. Dave, does this mean you can hang around camera stores and pick up girls? Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM, David Savagep...@arach.net.au wrote: Don't you believe it Bob. I was chatting with the owner of my local camera store last year he commented that the demographic of DSLR sales (and pro shooters) was starting to even up. Also things like scrapbooking have got the ladies more interested in higher IQ capabilities of DSLR. DS -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2009 11:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 John, It's been a while since I've conversed with Soccer Moms, but I think you are way off track. Soccer Moms buy those little point-n-shoot cameras that fit in their handbags. The 35mm SLR style digital camera is more for Dads, a serious tool for a man to hunt with and capture the moment. Something to take on vacation. Still, most will never get beyond the PS stage of use. They had best buy a K-M. The K-7 is a big 'over-kill'. Some could do it, but only the clueless. The variety of price points Pentax maintains lets them choose a cheaper alternative, not the top of the line. In the end, I don't see this feature change as being anything but minor for most folks. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote: Ms. Soccermom-Smith would probably never change lenses, never take the autofocus sensor selection off auto select which is the default option, (you'd have to dive into the main menu to do that) never shoot off the green setting, unless she changed to the preset modes, your reasoning seems unlikely, No, you just supported it. The vast majority of camera users aren't going to use advanced or custom features, just like Jane Soccermom-Smith, wife of Doug Officegrunt Smith and mother of three precious, high-energy little snowflakes. She doesn't have the time nor the interest to learn all that techno mumbo-jumbo. She just wants a camera that takes nice pictures, and she wanted the best camera she could afford. Work a week in camera retail and you'll meet a hundred people just like her. Anyway, I was just saying that the vast majority of camera users aren't going to be put off by the changes made to the buttons between the K20/200/2000 and K7, because the vast majority won't care. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 take away direct access to the AF sensor in AF sensor select mode? That makes no sense at all from a usability standpoint This really is the crux of it. The camera should default to AF sensor select as soon as the switch is set to SEL. The OK button would then be an ad hoc Fn button in this operational mode. I think most users could get their head around that. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 11:08:36AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit: Hum,. so if you switch to Google's browser you'd be trading the iron fist for a velvet glove on the iron fist? Nah, ten thousand distributed fingers incorporating a variety of task-appropriate materials. The real potential advantage to this is that Google has been in the OS business for years; all their clever online stuff depends on their having this massively distributed computing ability, and it didn't exist so they had to build it. As a result, and *unlike* Microsoft, they actually understand software engineering and management large projects. (Remember that Bill wrote a basic interpreter _himself_. A righteous accomplishment for the time, but not something that teaches you large project management...) -- Graydon Two notes, Google has never done the OS thing. Their distributed system is built on top of other's OS's (I forget whether it's Linux or FreeBSD, but the Goole clusters don't run on anything google wrote and neither will the Chrome OS, which will use a Linux kernel with a Chrome-based userspace). And MS learned large scale OS design at the feet of IBM (On OS/2) then imported a large chunk of the VMS team to do the original NT. They actually understand software engineering and management of large projects much better than Google, their issue has always been the legacy costs of their older consumer products along with sane UI design. Almost all of the real issues with Windows have been due to the compatibility requirements to Win3.x and Win95 or the braindead security defaults necessary to allow management by barely competent IT people in the mid-90's office environment. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 None of the functions that are immediately enabled are needed when the camera is at eye level. All are by that definition secondary , in some cases terceriary shooting functions. The sensor I want to use for auto focus is an immediate ie shooting decision. In fact most of the parameters you can change immediately I wouldn't want to accidentally change. It's broken. My God!! Peter, we agree. There's hope for us after all. William Robb Bill, We've always agreed on most things. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting personal facts, for me any way.
2009/7/8 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Just did some checking of photo folders. Don';t ask why, i have a ton of house work to do. I keep my photos filed in sub folders for camera gear used and then date folders in side those. I was looking around for photos for possible fair entries and noticed this. Prior to my giving up equine photography for profit, my Nikon sub folders out numbered my Pentax sub folders by 4 to 1. This year i have 31 Pentax sub folders and 13 Nikon sub folders. I see a trend developing here. Yeah, you need a D700. :-) Speaking of which, I haven't shot anything worth mentioning on the D700 in about 3 weeks now. My most used camera in that time has been the G10. And I'm loving the fact that I know the IQ isn't there, and the challenge of having to concentrate on making a graphically interesting image to compensate. It's kinda' liberating. That said, the next photographic roadtrip in Sept. is booked in the D700 will get a workout then. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Adam Maas wrote: The New Beetle is a Golf. A putt-putt Golf. Paul -Adam On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:05 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the New Beetle isn't even close to the same car as the original. Not even the same concept, the original Beetle was easy to repair with minimal tools for one thing. The New Beetle was meant to capitalize on nostalgia without invoking any of the grittiness of the actual past... Joseph McAllister wrote: Porsche has retained the rear or mid- engine design with the exception of the 928, and a few of the newer vehicles which were rebadged VW/ Porsche designs. Once the Rabbit came out, VW has remained front engined ever since. On Jul 7, 2009, at 19:00 , Adam Maas wrote: True, I don't think you can really call anything after the 993 related to the Beetle by anything other than styling cues. Prior to that, the relationship was clear although the evolution was significant. -Adam On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:54 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course the relationship between the early 911s and the Beetle isn't quite as simple as Adam suggested, but the 911 was certainly a derivative of that car. Of course, later 911s evolved into something far different. Paul On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand Then, they generate the hype of the century for a camera that's no more than a pimped-up K20D, If you are talking about the K-7, be assured that it is as much a pimped up a K20 as a Porsche is a pimped up Beetle. William Robb But a 911 IS a pimped up Beetle ;-) -Adam The 356 was a pimped up Beetle, the 911 was something else entirely... The 356 was a reskinned Beetle with a couple tweaks and a diet. The 911 was a chopped and pimped beetle. There's a reason you can transplant older 911 drivetrains pretty much directly into a Beetle. I've done that, it's not as easy as you think. (I've also bolted a 356 engine into a Beetle, after helping rebuild it, I know of what I speak). Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
You'll just have to scour the internet for MZ/ZX style neck straps, I believe the small remote will fit in the little pockets... paul stenquist wrote: I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home! Paul On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:42 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit? I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Hi Igor; The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion battery D-LI90, or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries. No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those battery types. Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery. The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card, the AA tray will not. Neither tray will hold the small remote control. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:37 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 take away direct access to the AF sensor in AF sensor select mode? That makes no sense at all from a usability standpoint This really is the crux of it. The camera should default to AF sensor select as soon as the switch is set to SEL. The OK button would then be an ad hoc Fn button in this operational mode. I think most users could get their head around that. William Robb That would work for me. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 take away direct access to the AF sensor in AF sensor select mode? That makes no sense at all from a usability standpoint This really is the crux of it. The camera should default to AF sensor select as soon as the switch is set to SEL. The OK button would then be an ad hoc Fn button in this operational mode. I think most users could get their head around that. That would work for me. Done and done. Hopefully this will be how Pentax implements it in the firmware revision. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
Paul would have us think this is a typo, but he secretly has the prototype K8 with telepathic AF. The batteries are in short supply because the LHC is still behind schedule and not making antimatter. I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax prices for an item that should be generic. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
That won't work for me. I use the Tamrac neck straps that unclip. I have to remove the strap when I put the camera on the panorama head, otherwise it gets caught on the tripod during rotation. Paul On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:45 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: You'll just have to scour the internet for MZ/ZX style neck straps, I believe the small remote will fit in the little pockets... paul stenquist wrote: I will miss having a tray to hold the small remote. I use it when I shoot VR panoramas for real estate, and since it's in the tray, I can't forget it or lose it. It's too small not to have a home! Paul On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:42 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin Subject: Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit? I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Hi Igor; The manual for the grip specifies the rechargable lithium-ion battery D-LI90, or 6 AA lithium/NiMH/alkaline batteries. No mention is made of NiCads, so I would stay away from those battery types. Also, the battery tray will not hold a CR-V3 battery. The tray for the lithium-ion battery will hold a spare SD card, the AA tray will not. Neither tray will hold the small remote control. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Digital Prime Lens Recommendation
The DA 40 2.8 is a great walk around lens, although it is a little bit long for a normal lens. A 35mm pancake would have been perfect. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:53 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Digital Prime Lens Recommendation Thanks for your responses and your recommendations. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Changing focus area on K-7
paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:37 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Changing focus area on K-7 take away direct access to the AF sensor in AF sensor select mode? That makes no sense at all from a usability standpoint This really is the crux of it. The camera should default to AF sensor select as soon as the switch is set to SEL. The OK button would then be an ad hoc Fn button in this operational mode. I think most users could get their head around that. William Robb That would work for me. Paul I haven't even handled the camera yet, and that seems like the logical solution. I'll bet it's a lot more difficult to program, and the original functionality just dropped out of the functional spec. Programmers are lazy, project managers like things to come in on time, technical writers are cheap. (Three of the rules of software development). -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: This can't be right...
Not in lab, but I do remember doing an analogous procedure in my dorm room. ;-) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:10 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: OT: This can't be right... ...I'm sure I can remember one of my classmates doing this in the chemistry lab in 1971: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8138963.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 Comparison?
Yes, these are interesting, but the noise reduction settings are not disclosed, making the comparison meaningless. It was observed on another forum that Pentax seems to be boosting saturation in high ISO images. You can see that in the crayons especially. The best comparisons for me would be RAW files with noise reduction off. Joe - Imaging-resource already has a few. http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM 2009/7/7 Joseph Tainter jtainter at mindspring.com: The main feature of the K7 that I find attractive is the claim that it produces less noisy images at high ISO settings. So I wonder if it is actually better than the K20D (which I consider to be pretty good up to about ISO 2000). Would anyone who owns both the K7 and the K20D be willing to take some high ISO comparison shots and post them (actual size) where we could look at them? Thanks, Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's up with the K7 grip/kit?
Paul, I googled D-LI90 battery and ended up at Eastmaze where I ordered a back-up battery. It may be crap, I'll let you know. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You need the, (not yet available in the US apparently), grip to use AA batteries. Igor Roshchin wrote: I remember seeing somewhere information that rechargeable AA batteries can be used with K7, but I don't see it anywhere in the specs. ... or was it an option if you get the grip? Bill (and/or somebody else), - could you please clarify this question? Igor Tue Jul 7 21:24:45 CDT 2009 paul stenquist wrote: I'm annoyed that no aftermarket batteries seem to be available for the K8. I want at least four batteries, and I don't want to pay Pentax prices for an item that should be generic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris Peso #22 - Mini Israel park
Thomas, I think that Egged log is yet quite different than the one you showed. If you decide to travel down here, give me a shout. Boris Thomas Bohn wrote: On Tue, July 7, 2009 18:55, Boris Liberman wrote: Have your brutal and honest say. Nice pictures, like to go there. They remembered me of those picture I recently found: http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/2009/07/02/tiltshift-aus-bremerhaven-und-internetausdrucker/ But those photos of Bremerhaven are no models, just a cool effect. BTW why does this Egged logo (almost) look like the Raiffeisen logo? http://www.geniacs.com/img/raiffeisen.jpg Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris Peso #22 - Mini Israel park
Jack, Ken, Jostein et al... Thank you for your kind words. But if you please - could you elaborate a bit further as to why the other two images are less successful than the one you chose. I should tell you that I find Under the blue sky the weakest from the bunch, at least for my taste. Boris AlunFoto wrote: What Jack and Ken said, Boris. Jostein 2009/7/7 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hi! Few shots for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/07/peso-2009-022.html Have your brutal and honest say. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Encryption on a Mac
Been on Apple laptops since 2002. My 2006 PowerBook G2 supports double-touch. G On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: Got that too on my MacBook. Double Nyah! On Jul 7, 2009, at 00:08 , David Mann wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:25 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Mighty Mouse is pressure sensitive as to which side of the mouse you press on. Nyah! Old skool... multi-touch trackpads FTW :) Dave Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum sumus... http://tinyurl.com/me52my -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris Peso #22 - Mini Israel park
On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Thomas, I think that Egged log is yet quite different than the one you showed. Yeah, if you look directly but on the little bus in the first picture I really thought I'm looking at the German Raiffeisen coop logo. If you decide to travel down here, give me a shout. That's a deal. :-) Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital Prime Lens Recommendation
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I would think that the 31/1.9 LImited is probably the most versatile prime for a Pentax DSLR. Of course that all depends on how wide or tight your prefer to shoot. The focal length and speed are great. A wide-normal. The 31 Limited annoyed me as being 3x as expensive as the 35/2, nearly twice the size and weight, and nowhere near twice as good on imaging qualities. Its fixed lens hood is inadequate for Pentax DSLRs and makes it difficult to fit a proper lens hood, filters, etc. The 43 Limited is a much better lens IMO, and I prefer its long-normal FoV on the Pentax DSLRs. But I would also disagree with your assertion that zooms have their limits. ... Middle to long tele zooms work nicely. Ultrawide zooms work well most of the time. Wide to portrait tele zooms almost without exception are a compromise over the prime lenses they replace, even the best of them. They are convenient for some things, but I get much better photographs using a fast normal prime lens than almost any zoom. In particular, I didn't like the DA16-45/4 very much at all: didn't like the way it zoomed, and wasn't particularly thrilled with its corner/edge rendering at the wide end at all. I liked the DA*16-50/2.8 a little more but found it an awkward lens in use. A better walk around kit for me was the DA21/3.2 and the FA43/1.9 ... one in my pocket, one on the camera. Both are small and light, show excellent handling and image quality. In the last year or so of using the K10D, these two lenses returned more than 80% of my best photographs with the camera. -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT-There is hope...
snore -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital Prime Lens Recommendation
The real advantage to the prime is size and sometimes speed. On an individual basis, lens by lens, you're probably correct, especially if you're only carrying one lens (which I seldom do - I'm usually out with my full bag of tricks), but considering a compliment of lenses in a camera bag, zooms definitely offer less weight and carry size as opposed to the range of prime lens the zoom replaces. So it appears the choice of lens/prime is also affected by your shooting style - a street shooter doesn't want to carry a bunch of lenses, while a nature shooter will, to ensure he gets whatever he sees, be it a flower bud or a grand landscape. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: Re: Digital Prime Lens Recommendation That is kind of where I am at too. The real advantage to the prime is size and sometimes speed. I don't think image quality is enough different to really matter. So it is a trade-off between versatility and size/speed. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 6:34:51 PM, you wrote: ps I would think that the 31/1.9 LImited is probably the most versatile ps prime for a Pentax DSLR. Of course that all depends on how wide or ps tight your prefer to shoot. ps But I would also disagree with your assertion that zooms have their ps limits. I shout with nothing but primes until a few years ago, but the ps new zooms are so good I rarely use a prime. The DA*60-250/4 may be as ps good at most focal lengths and aps as any prime Pentax has ever made. ps Perhaps better. Of course, it's not that fast, but the DA* 50-135/2.8 ps is quite fast and almost as good. In combination with the DA* ps 16-50/2.8 and DA 12-24, one can put together an awesome kit with ps nothing but Pentax zooms. There have been some manufacturing problems ps with the DA* 16-50, but the good copies are super, and I suspect that ps ll of the newest lenses are okay. To detect any difference between ps these lenses and fine primes, one would need a microscope, and, in ps some cases, the zooms might very well come out on top. There was a ps time when I wouldn't shoot with a zoom. Today, I wouldn't shoot ps without one. ps Paul ps On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: 1. I am lazy. I often want to leave my camera bag home, or at the hotel, and walk with just my camera and the lens attached to it. Zoom lenses, of course, have their limitations. I fondly recall the old days, when I went most everywhere with just my Asahi Spotmatic and a Super Takumar 50mm f1.4. What would you recommend as the most versatile and useful reasonably priced prime lens for a Pentax digital? 2. Similarly, what do people find to be the best reasonably priced macro lens for a Pentax digital? I know these are broad questions, but any guidance from this august group would be greatly appreciated. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As of today, Pentax has become a luxury brand
I'd rather have an Alfa Romeo MiTo ... http://pictures.topspeed.com/cars/alfa-romeo/2009-alfa-romeo-mito-ar53994/IMG/crop/200803/2009-alfa-romeo-mito-1_1600x0w.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/kpyg3w -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax *ist Ds RAW file - which CAMERA RAW for original CS?
Hi team, can anyone point me in the direction of which version of Camera RAW for Adobe CS supports the Pentax *ist Ds ? Appreciate it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 78 rules of photography
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: DagT li...@thrane.name Subject: Re: 78 rules of photography Den 7. juli. 2009 kl. 04.34 skrev paul stenquist: On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:25:34 -0400, you wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:28:51 -0400, you wrote: Ken Waller wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:51:13 -0400, you wrote: On 7/3/09, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I'll feel a lot more confident now that I am aware of the rules of sausage photography (no. 36) January 2010 PUG - Sausage! Sounds like a wiener to me. Hot Dog I couldn't think of a wurst subject I had to chime in so I could ketchup Admit it, you relish threads like this. Yeah I do, it would leave me in a pickle if I didn't. I was always confident you'd be able to cut the mustard. Some of the pun threads here are bad, but this one is the wurst. Doh! I'm the wurst. I posted a repeat pun. Grounds for PDML banishment. Or at the very least, a flogging. On the buns perhaps? No, this is the wurst: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bilder/vis_bilde.cgi?id=103007 So the grilling continues -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
