stan's Chicago GESOs

2010-05-15 Thread Stan Halpin
I have put up four galleries:
One reflects a couple of walks in the Oak Park  area:  
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p584621166
A second has a few shots from the PDML Gallery opening:   
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p552583829
Some shots of fellow PDMLers:   http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p583082280
And a few shots of the Art Institute and surrounding areas:   
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p987771025

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Re: Chicago GESO

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/index.html

Great job.


I wondered whereabouts in the gallery I was...

http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/7da01807.html

Ack a PC!!!

I feel violated!

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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/10, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:


Please download and have a look.

http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/chicago_pdml.wmv

Great photos Boris.

Now you know how hard it is to source good library music! Sorry, I had
to turn the sound off.

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geso, youse guys

2010-05-15 Thread Larry Colen
I've been going through my photos from Chicago.  I'm working on  
putting all of my non-gallery shots with pdml folk into one set:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623939402789/

I'll add more later, but it may be a few more days.

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Re: FS Friday: SMC 15mm f/3.5

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Glass is perfect. Paint shows wear on sharp edges. One scuff on
outside of lens shade (visible in second and third shots).
$450.00 plus shipping

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/15-35/15-4.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/15-35/15-5.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/15-35/15-6.jpg

If I didn't have one already, I'd nab that.

Don't hesitate - at that price it's a gift.

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Re: Jetlagged babble

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
 Guys, I begin to think you are a bunch of Eplekjekke Små Nappetasser.

 Jostein

Watch it pal or you'll feel the full force of my slikkepotte.

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Re: PESO : skies and clouds

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/10, Madame RD, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4605932929/

Love that one!

The Granite Rose coast eh!

;-)

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic16.html

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Re: PESO - After the Storm - Part III

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-storm-part-iii.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

That's exceptionally good.

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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2010-05-15 Thread pdml
they seem to be very expensive compared to nebulous state HDs. I have just
ordered a new machine and went through the same questions as you, but
decided I couldn't afford them as yet. I believe the read/write speeds are
also still relatively low and that there's some way to go before they
become 1st choice. I will let the early adopters take the pain.

B

 I'm wondering what the consensus on these new beasties is?
 I am planning on an upgrade to Win7 and adding some ram, and am wondering
 if
 I should get one of these as a C drive as well.
 I am thinking of one of the 40 or so gb ones, since I don't use my C drive
 for anything other than OS and programs.



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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

2010-05-15 Thread pdml

I've long wanted to create a Beatles-themed photo tribute gallery and
have a lot of unimplemented ideas, each image representing a single
song.
[...]
But finally:  Free as a Bird

http://photo.net/photodb/photo\?photo_id=11011691size=lg


that's a superb photo - love it. Now, where are you to find some
yellow-matter custard, an egg-man and a walrus?


 Wow, very nice capture Tom!
 I had to go find that song on YouTube. One of the few Beatles song I don't
 recall hearing
 before. Are we trapped in the bubble?

The song is one that Paul, George and Ringo put together from some of
John's scribblings and outtakes a few years ago. Not worth the effort in
my opinion.

Bob


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Re: Peso Freezing at the horse show

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Sunday they're calling for +20C and sunny.  Can't wait.

I love how you guys have to ask for your weather. Ours just arrives...

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Re: WEBCAM Video of Chicago Exhibition

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

A pleasure watching this.  Thanks for all your work in putting this together.

Thanks Frank.

I'm really enjoying your waterfront pics at the moment, keep em coming :)

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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty


Don't worry about it - on  my mobile phone he comes up as Milk Wislon

 There must be something wrong with your phone's mammary card.

Perhaps it's gone tits up.

 Could be. I'm sure he'll keep us abreast of the situation.


 it was just a boob, but I can see we're in for another suckle pun thread.

OK folks, we have a weaner.

No chance to nipple this one in the bud.


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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2010-05-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15/05/2010, p...@web-options.com p...@web-options.com wrote:
 they seem to be very expensive compared to nebulous state HDs. I have just
 ordered a new machine and went through the same questions as you, but
 decided I couldn't afford them as yet. I believe the read/write speeds are
 also still relatively low and that there's some way to go before they
 become 1st choice. I will let the early adopters take the pain.

I'd give them a wide berth at the moment too, quite variable
performance, limited writes, bad for an o/s partition which is being
written back to virtually continuously. The new WD Velociraptors
(http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=821) should make
your machine perform, I have two of the 300GB units, they are damn
fast.

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Re: PESO - Gold

2010-05-15 Thread mike wilson

Doug Brewer wrote:

I'm clearly in the less popular, experimental camp, and from where I'm 
sitting the majority prefers to think that pretty is the proper, 
acceptable form of photography to be appreciated on the PDML.


I'm not sure that's true (or, more clearly, truer _here_ than elsewhere) 
or fair on the assembled multitude.


It's probably true that the more prolific posters here _may_ fall into 
that category but my personal impression (influenced, of course, by me 
not being DB and therefore seeing his works as part of the entity) is 
that we have a fairly broad range of oeuvres within the list and that 
range is reasonably fairly represented.  There are ones that cannot be, 
of course.


I'm equally not sure whether the enchantment with art that looks on the 
bright side of life is part of normal human makeup or something that has 
been learned.  But I am sure that it is something we could discuss.


Mr Decisive.

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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago

2010-05-15 Thread mike wilson

Bob Sullivan wrote:


WILSON MICHAEL,
Why are you SHOUTING at us?
Regards,  Bob S.


My apologies.  Virginmedia has changed its webmail interface and a 
number of things are cockeyed.  Praise the Lord for Netscape Mail




On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:18 AM, WILSON MICHAEL m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:


On 14 May 2010 01:03, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:


On 13 May 2010 15:02, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:


One man's charming is another's charmin.


For the non-Americans: Charmin is a brand of toilet paper.


I really should apologise for being so harsh.  But I just couldn't
pass up the straight line.  Mea maxima culpa.



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PESO - Spring Cleaning?

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/05/spring-cleaning.html

Scroll down to image and click to enlarge.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - After the Storm - Part III

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 That's exceptionally good.

Thanks!

:-)

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Re: PESO - After the Storm - Part III

2010-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Certainly preserve one version which includes the birds. I feel their size and 
placement add to natures impact on the scene.

Jack

--- On Fri, 5/14/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - After the Storm - Part III
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 8:06 PM
 On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 AM,
 Christian Skofteland
 pterali...@aim.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Another moody, cold, image.  Makes me shiver just to
 look at it.  I really like this one.  A gritty
  cold skyline to contrast all those perfect skyline
 shots you tend to see.  However, I think the birds
  actually detract from the composition rather than add
 to it.  And that's coming from me! :-)
 
  Lovely image, knarf.
 
 Yeah, to be honest, I wasn't quite sure about the birds
 either, and
 I'm still flip-flopping on whether I like them there or
 not.
 
 One the one hand, I think they make the composition more
 interesting,
 on the other, they're obviously ~much~ closer to the camera
 than the
 buildings, so their scale's all whacked out.
 
 For now they're in.
 
 ;-)
 
 Glad you liked it!  Thanks for the comment.
 
 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Gold

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

 OK, I wondered who would be the first to mention this. Good job, Bruce.

 I'm clearly in the less popular, experimental camp, and from where I'm
 sitting the majority prefers to think that pretty is the proper,
 acceptable form of photography to be appreciated on the PDML.

 Let's not let this happen. One of the strengths of the PDML over its history
 is an acceptance of whatever each photographer is trying to do, and I hope
 we don't go the way of too many clubs and communities, where all the
 photographs end up looking the same.

 Even if we don't care for a style or school of photography, it is required
 of us all to respect the other photographers and judge each submitted image
 in its own context. I don't care if Eggleston himself tosses us a link and
 you hate everything he does; you comment on whether that particular image
 works or doesn't work, if you care to comment at all, with the care and
 courtesy you expect when you post your own photos.

 At the same time, I will, and I will expect others to do the same, fight
 unto death for your right to follow whatever photographic trail you wish to
 tread. I know I said earlier that Eggleston's work touches me more than
 flower photos do. That doesn't mean I don't like flower photos; I always
 enjoy a good one. I'm just at a point in my viewing life that interesting
 holds my interest a bit more.

 If you love flower/cat/puppy/sunset photography, then by golly do it, and do
 it as well as you can, and push yourself to do it even better. Be proud of
 what you do, and as you grow we will all applaud you. Whatever your subject,
 do it to the best of your abilities.

 But remember as well that there are photographers on the list who do shoot
 other things, in other styles, and they deserve the same encouragement, the
 same respect. The fact that most of us shoot with Pentax doesn't mean we all
 have the same subjects or methods for expressing/describing those subjects.

 I'm not saying you can't have your preferences or your opinions. You
 certainly can. But let's not let the volume of your bias drown out the other
 voices.

 Bruce, that's a heck of a photo. I've always admired your light sense.

F#*cking right, Doug!!

Very well said.

cheers,
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Re: Peso Freezing at the horse show

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 I love how you guys have to ask for your weather. Ours just arrives...

Things are different in the colonies.

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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago

2010-05-15 Thread William Robb


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Subject: Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago






Don't worry about it - on  my mobile phone he comes up as Milk Wislon


There must be something wrong with your phone's mammary card.


Perhaps it's gone tits up.


Could be. I'm sure he'll keep us abreast of the situation.



it was just a boob, but I can see we're in for another suckle pun 
thread.


OK folks, we have a weaner.


No chance to nipple this one in the bud.



No, and it's taking on a strange areola as well. 



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Re: Chicago GESO

2010-05-15 Thread Madame RD

Le 14/05/10 23:10, Mark Roberts a écrit :

http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/index.html


   
disco dancing forbidden on the tracks    aren't they weird 
in Chicago ! ;-)

lots of photos I liked but in the end  airport chic is a favourite .

dominique



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Re: PESO: Chicago - Central Camera

2010-05-15 Thread Madame RD

Le 14/05/10 23:11, John Sessoms a écrit :
These have a kind of late 19th century painted postcard kind of flavor 
to them.
that's it ! I couldn't find the words to express my feeling about them . 
They are somehow unreal . I quite like that I must say


dominique



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RE: Chicago GESO

2010-05-15 Thread Bob W
 
 Le 14/05/10 23:10, Mark Roberts a écrit :
  http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/index.html
 
 
 
 disco dancing forbidden on the tracks    aren't 
 they weird 
 in Chicago ! ;-)
 lots of photos I liked but in the end  airport chic is a favourite .
 
 dominique

If you touch the live rail it's mandatory!

Bob


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Re: PESO - Spring Cleaning?

2010-05-15 Thread Madame RD

Le 15/05/10 12:47, frank theriault a écrit :

http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/05/spring-cleaning.html

Scroll down to image and click to enlarge.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

   

excellent ! brooms aren't only for housewives ..
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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

2010-05-15 Thread Madame RD

Le 15/05/10 05:41, William Robb a écrit :






Tom C wrote:

I've long wanted to create a Beatles-themed photo tribute gallery and
have a lot of unimplemented ideas, each image representing a single
song.

The trip to Chicago last weekend, in addition to being a ton of fun,
unexpectedly yielded my first shot for the collection.

We were at the 'The Bean'. I saw it happen in the viewfinder, though
imperfect, and waited for what seemed like an eternity for the
elements to come together as I imagined.

But finally:  Free as a Bird

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11011691size=lg


I still think it's a Lynyrd Skynyrd  song, but what the hell.
It's a terrific picture.

William Robb


though the Beatles sang Blackbird  nevertheless beautiful picture !

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Re: PESO : skies and clouds

2010-05-15 Thread Madame RD

Le 15/05/10 10:15, Cotty a écrit :

On 14/5/10, Madame RD, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4605932929/
 

Love that one!

The Granite Rose coast eh!

;-)

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic16.html$
   



yes ! gorgeous pictures of the rocks i fell in love instantly with 
that part of the country  




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Re: OTThe Bones of Wat:

2010-05-15 Thread Madame RD

Le 15/05/10 02:25, Daniel J. Matyola a écrit :

http://weburbanist.com/2010/05/14/the-bones-of-war-haunting-skeleton-photography/

   

love it !!!  .thanks for sharing .

dominique



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Re: PESO - Spring Cleaning?

2010-05-15 Thread Doug Brewer

frank theriault wrote:

http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/05/spring-cleaning.html

Scroll down to image and click to enlarge.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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getting ready for the Extreme Curling season, no doubt.

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Re: Chicago GESO

2010-05-15 Thread Madame RD

Le 15/05/10 14:39, Bob W a écrit :
   

Le 14/05/10 23:10, Mark Roberts a écrit :
 

http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/index.html



   

disco dancing forbidden on the tracks    aren't
they weird
in Chicago ! ;-)
lots of photos I liked but in the end  airport chic is a favourite .

dominique
 

If you touch the live rail it's mandatory!

Bob


   

shake shake shake Senora ... as the song goes 


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Re: stan's Chicago GESOs

2010-05-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Fun to see those Stan...  Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I have put up four galleries:
 One reflects a couple of walks in the Oak Park  area:  
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p584621166
 A second has a few shots from the PDML Gallery opening:   
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p552583829
 Some shots of fellow PDMLers:   http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p583082280
 And a few shots of the Art Institute and surrounding areas:   
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p987771025

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Re: PESO - Gold

2010-05-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:13 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 I'm not sure that's true (or, more clearly, truer _here_ than elsewhere) or
 I'm equally not sure whether the enchantment with art that looks on the
 bright side of life is part of normal human makeup or something that has
 been learned.  But I am sure that it is something we could discuss.

No need for my attempts at art to look on the dark side.  Life already
holds enough dark side for all of us.  I want to see things around me
that remind me of the beauty in life.

Things on the dark side can make powerful images, but why go there?
Those I can congure from the night...

And Bruce, it's a wonderful photo!

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO - Gold

2010-05-15 Thread P N Stenquist


On May 15, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:13 AM, mike wilson m. 
9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I'm not sure that's true (or, more clearly, truer _here_ than  
elsewhere) or
I'm equally not sure whether the enchantment with art that looks on  
the
bright side of life is part of normal human makeup or something  
that has

been learned.  But I am sure that it is something we could discuss.


No need for my attempts at art to look on the dark side.  Life already
holds enough dark side for all of us.  I want to see things around me
that remind me of the beauty in life.

Things on the dark side can make powerful images, but why go there?


Because they can be powerful images.

Shakespeare's comedies entertained the masses, but his tragedies made  
him an artist.




Those I can congure from the night...

And Bruce, it's a wonderful photo!

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-15 Thread Doug Brewer

Larry Colen wrote:

That is an annoyingly good collection of photos.


I'm happiest when I'm annoying.

thanks

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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Resolution: excellent (provided you put enough a lens in front of it,
 otherwise edges are poor). Don't use the provided 2.8/28-75mm (a rebadged
 Tamron) full open if you want good resolution at edges.


 Dario


The 28-75/2.8 SAM is massively overpriced anyways, the Tamron and
Konica/Minolta versions of the lens are not only optically identical
(Tamron's coatings differ, KM coatings are the same) but far cheaper
and more functional as screwdriver lenses can use DMF focusing mode
for manual focus override, which is lacking on SAM lenses.

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Now these are good photographs?

2010-05-15 Thread Rob Studdert
Alain Davreux, Seriously worth a look:

http://alaindavreux.com/index.php?page=japan_2008

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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Considerate of you to comment, Adam. Points well taken.

Jack 

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 From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca
 Subject: Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 7:38 AM
 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM,
 Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it
 wrote:
 
  Resolution: excellent (provided you put enough a lens
 in front of it,
  otherwise edges are poor). Don't use the provided
 2.8/28-75mm (a rebadged
  Tamron) full open if you want good resolution at
 edges.
 
 
  Dario
 
 
 The 28-75/2.8 SAM is massively overpriced anyways, the
 Tamron and
 Konica/Minolta versions of the lens are not only optically
 identical
 (Tamron's coatings differ, KM coatings are the same) but
 far cheaper
 and more functional as screwdriver lenses can use DMF
 focusing mode
 for manual focus override, which is lacking on SAM lenses.
 
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Re: Now these are good photographs?

2010-05-15 Thread P N Stenquist
IMO, some are excellent, others are not to my taste. I like the  
slightly oversaturated color for some subjects here. I also like the  
way the photographer  uses only a small portion of a horizontal frame  
at times. Some interesting crops as well. For example, the woman  
kneeling with flowers. Her head is cropped off, but I find the result  
intriguing. It's as though he's telling us what to focus on: the  
flowers, the shape of the figure in respect to them. Interesting work.


Thanks for the link, but Im not sure I understand the question mark.  
As many here have said over the last couple of days. Good is  
subjective, a value judgement that can never be applied universally.

Paul


On May 15, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:


Alain Davreux, Seriously worth a look:

http://alaindavreux.com/index.php?page=japan_2008

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Re: Now these are good photographs?

2010-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
They work well as a set.

Jack

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 Alain Davreux, Seriously worth a
 look:
 
 http://alaindavreux.com/index.php?page=japan_2008
 
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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Dario Bonazza

Adam Maas wrote:


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:


Resolution: excellent (provided you put enough a lens in front of it,
otherwise edges are poor). Don't use the provided 2.8/28-75mm (a rebadged
Tamron) full open if you want good resolution at edges.


Dario



The 28-75/2.8 SAM is massively overpriced anyways,


I quite agree. However, don't forget that nowadays there's no relation at 
all between the manufacturing cost and the sale price of an item. Industry 
tries to produce items at the lowest possible cost and to sell them at the 
highest possible price accepted by the market. For a camera priced like the 
A850, the price point of this standard zoom is quite OK. Sell the same lens 
for APS-C, and its price must go down 50% or more.



the Tamron and
Konica/Minolta versions of the lens are not only optically identical
(Tamron's coatings differ, KM coatings are the same) but far cheaper
and more functional as screwdriver lenses can use DMF focusing mode
for manual focus override, which is lacking on SAM lenses.


I spotted and highlighted that missing feature in the camera+lens review I 
did for an Italian magazine. And on top of that, focusing is quite noisy and 
continuous-AF performance is all but stellar in this combo, hence I don't 
get the reason for using such kind of AF.


From the optical point of view, I don't think the Tamron is a bad lens. On 
the contrary, it's a very good performer on APS-C, while on FF it suffers at 
edges (as most lenses do, by today's standards). There was a time when 
judging lens performance at smaller-detail level was very difficult, while 
now everybody blows up images large enough to spot such issues. However, 
close down the lens a couple stops and everything goes fine.
Again, I believe the A850+28-75 to be an excellent combo for studio and 
generic photography and weaker than expected (by me) for low-light and 
action shooting.


Dario




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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-15 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/15 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com:
 Larry Colen wrote:

 That is an annoyingly good collection of photos.

 I'm happiest when I'm annoying.

LOL. Maaark!

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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote:

The 28-75/2.8 SAM is massively overpriced anyways, the Tamron and
Konica/Minolta versions of the lens are not only optically identical
(Tamron's coatings differ, KM coatings are the same) but far cheaper
and more functional as screwdriver lenses can use DMF focusing mode
for manual focus override, which is lacking on SAM lenses.

I just ordered the Tamron version :)

BTW: I'll post a summary of my initial impressions of the camera in a
few days. I haven't had enough time as I'd like to work with it yet,
so the first installment will be mostly about build quality,
ergonomics, user interface, etc. 

I expect to do more serious shooting with it at GFM, so I'll follow up
with an image quality report after that. I will say that Mike
Johnston's impressions on image quality - the resolution, of course,
and also his assessment that this camera has the best dynamic range of
anything currently available - were a large part of my motivation for
buying it and they're proving very accurate. Dynamic range is amazing:
obviously in a different league than my K20D.

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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Dario Bonazza wrote:

From the optical point of view, I don't think the Tamron is a bad lens.

Here's a user test that compares the Sony and Tamron lenses. And also
throws in the Zeiss 24-70/2.8 at the end. Very interesting.
http://kurtmunger.com/tamron_sony_28_75mmid141.html


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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Dario Bonazza

Mark Roberts wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote:


From the optical point of view, I don't think the Tamron is a bad lens.


Here's a user test that compares the Sony and Tamron lenses. And also
throws in the Zeiss 24-70/2.8 at the end. Very interesting.
http://kurtmunger.com/tamron_sony_28_75mmid141.html


Provided it's not a focusing issue, which I strongly suspect. In my 
experience, difference in lens sharpness is often due to focusing 
(in)accuracy rather than to actual lens performance.


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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Dario Bonazza

Mark Roberts wrote:


BTW: I'll post a summary of my initial impressions of the camera in a
few days. I haven't had enough time as I'd like to work with it yet,
so the first installment will be mostly about build quality,
ergonomics, user interface, etc. 


I expect to do more serious shooting with it at GFM, so I'll follow up
with an image quality report after that. I will say that Mike
Johnston's impressions on image quality - the resolution, of course,
and also his assessment that this camera has the best dynamic range of
anything currently available - were a large part of my motivation for
buying it and they're proving very accurate. Dynamic range is amazing:
obviously in a different league than my K20D.


Resolution was well above any other camera I've tested so far. 
Dynamic range didn't impress me.


Dario

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Re: PESO - Gold

2010-05-15 Thread mike wilson

P N Stenquist wrote:



On May 15, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:13 AM, mike wilson m. 
9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:


I'm not sure that's true (or, more clearly, truer _here_ than  
elsewhere) or

I'm equally not sure whether the enchantment with art that looks on  the
bright side of life is part of normal human makeup or something  that 
has

been learned.  But I am sure that it is something we could discuss.



No need for my attempts at art to look on the dark side.  Life already
holds enough dark side for all of us.  I want to see things around me
that remind me of the beauty in life.

Things on the dark side can make powerful images, but why go there?



Because they can be powerful images.

Shakespeare's comedies entertained the masses, but his tragedies made  
him an artist.


I always thought commedia dell'arte was nonsense.





Those I can congure from the night...

And Bruce, it's a wonderful photo!

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-15 Thread Boris Liberman

On 5/15/2010 11:03 AM, Cotty wrote:

Great photos Boris.

Now you know how hard it is to source good library music! Sorry, I had
to turn the sound off.


Actually, it is not *that* hard. Not this time. I simply was driving to 
work on the next day after having returned home and was listening to 
this music. At the time I thought it was somehow befitting my general 
mood or state of mind during my trip, and so I thought I might as well 
put some photographs to it.


But since you're the second person who said that the sound wasn't good 
enough, I'd like to ask you what made you turn the sound off? You can 
reply off list if you wish. Though may be your opinion will be valuable 
to others as well.


Boris

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SDHC Card problem

2010-05-15 Thread Fernando
Hi list,

My wife's boss has this SDHC Lexar 16GB that can't be accessed. She
was using this in a video camera (not a pentax BTW) and the thing shut
off all of the sudden -battery died apparently. I tried to read it but
Windows would not even recognize that there is a card in the reader.

Did this ever happen to you? Any pointers on what to do?

PS: I use Sandisk SD exclusively, I guess this can happen with any
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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

2010-05-15 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/15 Tom C caka...@gmail.com:
 But finally:  Free as a Bird

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11011691size=lg

Well worth the wait! Great idea and execution.
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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago

2010-05-15 Thread Stan Halpin

 
 - Original Message - From: Cotty
 Subject: Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
 
 
 
 
 Don't worry about it - on  my mobile phone he comes up as Milk Wislon
 
 There must be something wrong with your phone's mammary card.
 
 Perhaps it's gone tits up.
 
 Could be. I'm sure he'll keep us abreast of the situation.
 
 
 it was just a boob, but I can see we're in for another suckle pun thread.
 
 OK folks, we have a weaner.
 
 No chance to nipple this one in the bud.
 
 
 No, and it's taking on a strange areola as well. 
 
I think this discussion needs silicon enhancement.
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OT - fine art photo blog taking guest submissions

2010-05-15 Thread Sasha Sobol
I read (or rather look at the [photos) from time to time.
http://www.fineartphotoblog.com/news/now-accepting-guest-contributions

Here is mine:
http://www.fineartphotoblog.com/minimalism/dune

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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:

 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Resolution: excellent (provided you put enough a lens in front of it,
 otherwise edges are poor). Don't use the provided 2.8/28-75mm (a rebadged
 Tamron) full open if you want good resolution at edges.


 Dario


 The 28-75/2.8 SAM is massively overpriced anyways,

 I quite agree. However, don't forget that nowadays there's no relation at
 all between the manufacturing cost and the sale price of an item. Industry
 tries to produce items at the lowest possible cost and to sell them at the
 highest possible price accepted by the market. For a camera priced like the
 A850, the price point of this standard zoom is quite OK. Sell the same lens
 for APS-C, and its price must go down 50% or more.

It's massively overpriced because the exact same lens (differing only
in AF drive) sells for 50% of the cost with a different name on it,
where most of Sony's rebadged Tamron lenses have only a 10-20%
premium. Note the 28-75/2.8 SAM is not setting any sales records, in
fact it's mostly been a sales dud for Sony from what I'm hearing over
at Dyxum.


 the Tamron and
 Konica/Minolta versions of the lens are not only optically identical
 (Tamron's coatings differ, KM coatings are the same) but far cheaper
 and more functional as screwdriver lenses can use DMF focusing mode
 for manual focus override, which is lacking on SAM lenses.

 I spotted and highlighted that missing feature in the camera+lens review I
 did for an Italian magazine. And on top of that, focusing is quite noisy and
 continuous-AF performance is all but stellar in this combo, hence I don't
 get the reason for using such kind of AF.

Sony's moving to a SAM/SSM split in order to be able to do what Nikon
is doing, eliminate AF drive motors in their consumer line and thus
make them cheaper and simpler.


 From the optical point of view, I don't think the Tamron is a bad lens. On

 the contrary, it's a very good performer on APS-C, while on FF it suffers at
 edges (as most lenses do, by today's standards). There was a time when
 judging lens performance at smaller-detail level was very difficult, while
 now everybody blows up images large enough to spot such issues. However,
 close down the lens a couple stops and everything goes fine.
 Again, I believe the A850+28-75 to be an excellent combo for studio and
 generic photography and weaker than expected (by me) for low-light and
 action shooting.

 Dario

My experience is that the 28-75/2.8 can be an absolutely superb
performer, but has some sample variation which usually shows in edge
performance. A good example will perform as well out to the edges on
FF as Canon's 24-70L, but remains inferior to the ZA 24-70. AF issues
in low-light and poor continuous focus performance have long been
noted as this lens's weak spot (I'm assuming here that the SAM drive
in the Sony-badged version uses the same technology as the EF mount
Tamron version). I've owned the lens in the past and will likely be
getting another one (in fact it will most likely be the KM version as
I'm shooting a fair bit with film A mount kit).



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Re: stan's Chicago GESOs

2010-05-15 Thread Doug Brewer

Stan Halpin wrote:

I have put up four galleries:
One reflects a couple of walks in the Oak Park  area:  
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p584621166
A second has a few shots from the PDML Gallery opening:   
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p552583829
Some shots of fellow PDMLers:   http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p583082280
And a few shots of the Art Institute and surrounding areas:   
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p987771025

stan


I'm having fun going through these galleries, Stan. Been through them 
all several times. Fun photos.


Love the PDML captions.

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Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)

2010-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for posting this!

Jack

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 Subject: Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 8:32 AM
 Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 From the optical point of view, I don't think the
 Tamron is a bad lens.
 
 Here's a user test that compares the Sony and Tamron
 lenses. And also
 throws in the Zeiss 24-70/2.8 at the end. Very
 interesting.
 http://kurtmunger.com/tamron_sony_28_75mmid141.html
 
 
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Re: OT - fine art photo blog taking guest submissions

2010-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Am slightly disoriented by the relative color consistency of the oversize 
background in your submission, Sasha. Not certain how the total frame contents 
relate. 
To reduce MY confusion, I might crop the background to a point 'prox 1/3 up 
from the shadow curve to the top.

Jack

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 [photos) from time to time.
 http://www.fineartphotoblog.com/news/now-accepting-guest-contributions
 
 Here is mine:
 http://www.fineartphotoblog.com/minimalism/dune
 
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PESO - Tricycle, New Toronto, 2010

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
My nature/photo walk this morning was something of a dud.  I haven't
actually looked at them yet, but it sure didn't feel good when I took
most of them.  Grey, wind going out into the lake (so no waves), the
wildlife wasn't co-operating.

I still took lots of shots, but I'm sure there's nothing you'll ever
see from the bunch.

So I'm on my way home, and 1/2 a block from my place, I see this
tricycle.  It reminds me of our little discussion of Eggleston and all
that flowed from it.

This is certainly ~not~ my attempt to copy him or in any way do a
photograph in his style.  I guess it's my homage to him (in a
tongue-in-cheek sort of way):

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/tricycle-new-toronto-2010.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

2010-05-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jay Taylor

On Fri May 14 18:25 ,Tom C wrote:



I've long wanted to create a Beatles-themed photo tribute gallery and
have a lot of unimplemented ideas, each image representing a single
song.

The trip to Chicago last weekend, in addition to being a ton of fun,
unexpectedly yielded my first shot for the collection.

We were at the 'The Bean'. I saw it happen in the viewfinder, though
imperfect, and waited for what seemed like an eternity for the
elements to come together as I imagined.

But finally:  Free as a Bird

http://photo.net/photodb/photo\?photo_id=11011691size=lg

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I had to go find that song on YouTube. One of the few Beatles song I don't recall hearing 
before. Are we trapped in the bubble?


Wasn't actually The Beatles as I remember, although that's the way it 
was promoted. Released in 1995, and John Lennon was murdered in 1980.


When Paul, George  Ringo were working on the Beatles Anthology set, 
they obtained some of John's home demo tapes from Yoko. An unfinished 
working version of Free As A Bird with John's vocals was on those tapes.


Paul  George took that into the studio and overdubbed it a'la Sergeant 
Pepper, with Jeff Lynn sitting in as producer.


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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

2010-05-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb

Tom C wrote:

 I've long wanted to create a Beatles-themed photo tribute gallery and
 have a lot of unimplemented ideas, each image representing a single
 song.
 
 The trip to Chicago last weekend, in addition to being a ton of fun,

 unexpectedly yielded my first shot for the collection.
 
 We were at the 'The Bean'. I saw it happen in the viewfinder, though

 imperfect, and waited for what seemed like an eternity for the
 elements to come together as I imagined.
 
 But finally:  Free as a Bird
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11011691size=lg


I still think it's a Lynyrd Skynyrd  song, but what the hell.
It's a terrific picture.


The Beatles song doesn't quite have the same interminable, 
drone-on-forever-oh-god-just-kill-me-now-and-put-me-out-of-my-misery 
WHINE, although it does seem to aspire to.


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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago

2010-05-15 Thread Ken Waller


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Subject: Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago






- Original Message - From: Cotty
Subject: Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago





Don't worry about it - on  my mobile phone he comes up as Milk 
Wislon


There must be something wrong with your phone's mammary card.


Perhaps it's gone tits up.


Could be. I'm sure he'll keep us abreast of the situation.



it was just a boob, but I can see we're in for another suckle pun 
thread.


OK folks, we have a weaner.


No chance to nipple this one in the bud.



No, and it's taking on a strange areola as well.


I think this discussion needs silicon enhancement.


Looks like this thread has been milked for all its worth. 



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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

2010-05-15 Thread John Sessoms

Song's not worthy of the photo.

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Re: stan's Chicago GESOs

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I have put up four galleries:
 One reflects a couple of walks in the Oak Park  area:  
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p584621166
 A second has a few shots from the PDML Gallery opening:   
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p552583829
 Some shots of fellow PDMLers:   http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p583082280
 And a few shots of the Art Institute and surrounding areas:   
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p987771025

Thanks, Stan.  Good photos, fun galleries.

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Most of these will not survive a more serious cull, but right now they don't
 make me spew.

 All taken over the too little time I had for shooting in Chicago, just a
 random collection with no thought to flow or chronological order. Friday
 night is missing until I move them from the laptop to my working computer.

 Anyway:

 http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/

Great stuff!  Enjoyed looked at all of this.

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Re: Now these are good photographs?

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alain Davreux, Seriously worth a look:

 http://alaindavreux.com/index.php?page=japan_2008

There's some seriously good stuff in there.

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Glad people included this link -- since I misplaced or lsot totally 
the original I think

Great gallery! --  I think I have a shot of you taking one of those, btw...

ann

Doug Brewer wrote:



 http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/ 






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PESO: Bird watcher Maritimtim

2010-05-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Since so many at the list have been exposed lately. Now I think it's my turn.
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/bird-wathcer-maritimtim.html

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Re: PESO: Bird watcher Maritimtim

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since so many at the list have been exposed lately. Now I think it's my turn.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/bird-wathcer-maritimtim.html


Looks just like you.

;-)

Seriously, that's a lovely portrait.  I think I've seen a photo of you
before, but it's always nice to see fellow list members.  Thanks for
posting it.

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Tamron 18-250

2010-05-15 Thread Toine
I've been offline the last week and marked my inbox as read.
In the meantime I found a nice copy of the Tamron 18-250. What a
beauty! It's not DA* or limited quality but it's a very pleasant
surprise. Why Pentax dumped it's DA18-250 version is a mystery to me.
It outperforms the DA18-55 and DA50-200, I think it's somewhere (or
very close) in the DA16-45 and DA55-300 class which results in a
excellent walk around lens for holidays etc. Even 250mm is
surprisingly good.

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Chronicles Of the Day

2010-05-15 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100515214522
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Re: OT - fine art photo blog taking guest submissions

2010-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 I read (or rather look at the
 [photos) from time to time.
 http://www.fineartphotoblog.com/news/now-accepting-guest-contributions

 Here is mine:
 http://www.fineartphotoblog.com/minimalism/dune

Sasha:

It's a wonderful photo. Marvelously minimal and evocative.

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Geso - Jostein's Chicago batch

2010-05-15 Thread AlunFoto
I probably take too few pics of people. :-)

This is the lot that passed the first sifting:

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=21page=1

Jostein

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Re: Tamron 18-250

2010-05-15 Thread Larry Colen


On May 15, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Toine wrote:


I've been offline the last week and marked my inbox as read.
In the meantime I found a nice copy of the Tamron 18-250. What a
beauty! It's not DA* or limited quality but it's a very pleasant
surprise. Why Pentax dumped it's DA18-250 version is a mystery to me.
It outperforms the DA18-55 and DA50-200, I think it's somewhere (or
very close) in the DA16-45 and DA55-300 class which results in a
excellent walk around lens for holidays etc. Even 250mm is
surprisingly good.


Every so often, I'm a little disappointed in it, but just as often I'm  
surprised at how sharp it is.  For a do everything lens, it is  
amazingly good.


FWIW, my photo in the show was shot with it.




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Re: PESO: Bird watcher Maritimtim

2010-05-15 Thread P N Stenquist

Great portrait. Looking forward to your posts.
Paul
On May 15, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

Since so many at the list have been exposed lately. Now I think it's  
my turn.

http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/bird-wathcer-maritimtim.html

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PESO Ferruginous Hawk

2010-05-15 Thread P N Stenquist
That's what he look's like to me. The beak and breast coloring match  
up to pics of that beasty. I've been hearing him for a couple of days.  
Finally, Grace and I spotted him in a tree right behind the garage  
when we came home from the park. Unfortunately, I didn't have proper  
long glass mounted, just the DA* 60-250, so this is cropped to about  
1/3 of frame. It was also getting a bit dim, so I had to shoot at ISO  
1600 to get any unaided flash up into the tree. F4.5 @ 1.320th.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11014855

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Re: PESO: Bird watcher Maritimtim

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/5/10, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

Since so many at the list have been exposed lately. Now I think it's my turn.
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/bird-wathcer-maritimtim.html

That's an excellent shot.

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Re: PESO Ferruginous Hawk

2010-05-15 Thread Larry Colen


On May 15, 2010, at 3:32 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:

That's what he look's like to me. The beak and breast coloring match  
up to pics of that beasty. I've been hearing him for a couple of  
days. Finally, Grace and I spotted him in a tree right behind the  
garage when we came home from the park. Unfortunately, I didn't have  
proper long glass mounted, just the DA* 60-250, so this is cropped  
to about 1/3 of frame. It was also getting a bit dim, so I had to  
shoot at ISO 1600 to get any unaided flash up into the tree. F4.5 @  
1.320th.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11014855


Great shot!  Especially considering the lighting and glass challenges.

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PESO Nice Handbag

2010-05-15 Thread P N Stenquist

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The Next Generation

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
Stef tries out his new camera...

http://www.cottysnaps.com/spare.html

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Re: PESO Nice Handbag

2010-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/5/10, P N Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11014931size=lg

LOL. excellent...handbag :)

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Re: PESO Nice Handbag

2010-05-15 Thread William Robb


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11014931size=lg



There's a handbag in that picture?

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Re: PESO Ferruginous Hawk

2010-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
My book agrees with your book. Appears this is a Ferruginous hawk.
Somehow, there being more frame space behind the critter than in front works. 
Maybe it's the larger limb in that area that makes the difference. I really 
think, however, it's the fact that it is resting rather than flying.
Nice crisp image especially considering the dim light and amount of crop.
Well caught, Frank!

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 Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:32 PM
 That's what he look's like to me. The
 beak and breast coloring match up to pics of that beasty.
 I've been hearing him for a couple of days. Finally, Grace
 and I spotted him in a tree right behind the garage when we
 came home from the park. Unfortunately, I didn't have proper
 long glass mounted, just the DA* 60-250, so this is cropped
 to about 1/3 of frame. It was also getting a bit dim, so I
 had to shoot at ISO 1600 to get any unaided flash up into
 the tree. F4.5 @ 1.320th.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11014855
 
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Re: PESO Nice Handbag

2010-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Thought I was going to see an alligator. :=|
Yeah, that's an A OK. ;)

Jack

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Re: The Next Generation

2010-05-15 Thread Keith Whaley

Cotty wrote:

Stef tries out his new camera...

http://www.cottysnaps.com/spare.html

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A black paving brick with a lens adapter...

sighhh.

On the other hand, Chris, you’re becoming quite a photographer, so...if you 
want a brick, no problem!  :-D


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Re: PESO: Bird watcher Maritimtim

2010-05-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks guys.
I'll let the shooter know. He is a hunter and a great chap BTW.

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Re: PESO Nice Handbag

2010-05-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
LOL.
You dirty old man.

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Re: PESO Nice Handbag

2010-05-15 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-15 19:38, Tim Øsleby wrote:

LOL.
You dirty old man.


From an old US TV show (Sanford and Son):

Lamont: You [are] a dirty old man.

Fred: Yeah, and I'm gonna be one 'til I'm a dead old man, too.

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GESO - Gellery frenzy

2010-05-15 Thread Derby Chang


Hi all

Lots of good photo shows happening in Sydney at the moment.

First off, started the morning with a glass of sparkling with the 
streets eerily empty. Jessica Watson was coming into town after 210 days 
by herself on a pink high-tech non-leaky boat, so Sydney was in big 
event mode. Street closures, clearways, car towing


We ducked inside to see the Rennie Ellis/Wesley Stacey show. Hilarious 
stuff. Not to get all nostalgic, Kings Cross has changed a lot in 40 
years, so it's great 1970 was captured this way. Hippies actually look 
pretty timeless in BW.


http://www.hht.net.au/whats_on/exhibitions/exhibitions/up_the_cross_rennie_ellis_and_wesley_stacey

Then, after some aimless walking around the hills of Paddo (I got a bit 
lost), we found the Roslyn Oxley9 gallery. You might know, a few years 
ago there was a kerfuffle about Bill Henson's previous show, or more 
specifically about one image used on the invitation to the show. Prints 
were seized, radio talk show hosts were outraged, new prime minister 
mouthed off, and laws were changed. But Bill just gets on with what he 
does and does well. I can understand why he hates that sort of 
controversy, he works are delicate and aren't the least attention 
seeking. For some bizarre reason, the Sydney Morning Herald had Miranda 
Devine write a commentary on the new show, expert that she is. She 
completely misunderstands what he is about, and sneers that he has lost 
his mojo. Hardly. I'm not going to link to the article, but it's online 
if you care to look for it.


I knew I would love this show, as I have his others. Highly recommended
http://www.roslynoxley9.com.au/artists/18/Bill_Henson/1222/

After a longish lunchbreak, we went back down the hill to the Stills 
Gallery. This one was a surprise. I hadn't heard of Roger Ballen, but 
after his compassionate, if oddly third-person talk about his work, I 
looked more closely. Definitely dark side stuff, challenging and 
mesmerising.

http://www.stillsgallery.com.au/exhibitions/

Then, a relaxing closer. Blender Gallery is also the home of lomography 
australia. So you could go there to amuse yourself with how much they 
are charging for a Diana, but the little gallery has top class work. I 
love this type of music photography - so intimate and moment of time. 
Very jealous of Wolff's access, but he has the chops.


http://www.blender.com.au/no-room-for-squares/#id=imgnum=135

My own snaps along the way

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_05/10_05_galleryfrenzy/index.htm

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Re: The Next Generation

2010-05-15 Thread Larry Colen


On May 15, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Cotty wrote:


Stef tries out his new camera...

http://www.cottysnaps.com/spare.html


Rather than readapting those nice lenses to the Canon, why not just  
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Re: PESO - Gold

2010-05-15 Thread Derby Chang

Doug Brewer wrote:

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Probably great foolishness on my part to submit a PESO amidst all
this discussion of good/bad photos and what is art - I'm guessing
that some will like and some will dislike this...but what the heck.
I have a thick skin - at least in some places...



Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm
ISO 100, 1/250 sec @ f/8

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00384.htm



OK, I wondered who would be the first to mention this. Good job, Bruce.

I'm clearly in the less popular, experimental camp, and from where 
I'm sitting the majority prefers to think that pretty is the proper, 
acceptable form of photography to be appreciated on the PDML.


Let's not let this happen. One of the strengths of the PDML over its 
history is an acceptance of whatever each photographer is trying to 
do, and I hope we don't go the way of too many clubs and communities, 
where all the photographs end up looking the same.


Even if we don't care for a style or school of photography, it is 
required of us all to respect the other photographers and judge each 
submitted image in its own context. I don't care if Eggleston himself 
tosses us a link and you hate everything he does; you comment on 
whether that particular image works or doesn't work, if you care to 
comment at all, with the care and courtesy you expect when you post 
your own photos.


At the same time, I will, and I will expect others to do the same, 
fight unto death for your right to follow whatever photographic trail 
you wish to tread. I know I said earlier that Eggleston's work touches 
me more than flower photos do. That doesn't mean I don't like flower 
photos; I always enjoy a good one. I'm just at a point in my viewing 
life that interesting holds my interest a bit more.


If you love flower/cat/puppy/sunset photography, then by golly do it, 
and do it as well as you can, and push yourself to do it even better. 
Be proud of what you do, and as you grow we will all applaud you. 
Whatever your subject, do it to the best of your abilities.


But remember as well that there are photographers on the list who do 
shoot other things, in other styles, and they deserve the same 
encouragement, the same respect. The fact that most of us shoot with 
Pentax doesn't mean we all have the same subjects or methods for 
expressing/describing those subjects.


I'm not saying you can't have your preferences or your opinions. You 
certainly can. But let's not let the volume of your bias drown out the 
other voices.


Bruce, that's a heck of a photo. I've always admired your light sense.

Doug




Hi Doug,

I get the feeling there are unusually more silent appreciators than 
commentors on this list than most web forums. For me, I tend not to 
comment unless it's more than I like, but I do enjoy looking at PDML 
GESOs and PESOs than a typical trawl through the morass that is Flickr.


I like your new posterous

(and I always like Bruce's light sense)

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Back home and PDMLers GESO

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Mitchell
We're back from our Chicago and mid west 3 state tour.

It was great to meet the other PDMLers, put faces and characters to names
and spend time getting to know each other. And the PDML exhibit was a
resounding success thanks mainly to Christine, Mark and Sue supported by all
of the contributors.

Chicago is a fantastic place with a photo opportunity on every corner. And
yes, Karin and I thought the Eggleston exhibition was great (but the Matisse
was even better). Here are some pictures of some PDMLers.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDMLers/

The 2nd week of our trip was spent in and around Galena in the far NW of
Illinois, bordering on Wisconsin and Iowa - both of which we visited. It's a
lovely area and I have many images to sort through. We managed to get around
on the wrong side of the road without hitting anything or getting divorced
over navigational differences - so a successful trip then.

I've a lot of catching up to do via the digest as our on-the-road email had
limitations - so forgive me if I haven't responded to others' postings yet.

Cheers, Chris

PS To the many people who said on first meeting me Ah, so you're Chris.
What a shame Bob W couldn't make it - I'm not bitter (any more) :-)



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GESO - slideshow of an old set of pics - Miss Rock n Roll

2010-05-15 Thread Derby Chang


The Annandale Hotel is coming up to a major anniversary and they are 
asking around for photos. Looking through some old stuff, I thought I 
would do a (Flash) slideshow of the Miss Rock 'n Roll competition from a 
few years back.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_05/10_05_missrocknroll/slideshow.htm

The girl in the last few shaving her head was great. One of my mates saw 
these pics, and couldn't believe the coincidence. She's a server at the 
local cafe where he gets his morning coffee. For a week, he didn't know 
why half of her head was shaved. She was saving the other half for the 
finals, naturally.


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Re: The Next Generation

2010-05-15 Thread John Francis
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 05:08:21PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:

 On May 15, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Cotty wrote:

 Stef tries out his new camera...

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/spare.html

 Rather than readapting those nice lenses to the Canon, why not just pick 
 up a K-x to use with them?

Cotty answered that upthread.

Stef shoots sports.  The frame rate of the K-x is nowhere close to adequate.



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GESO - Saturday Evening at the Pond

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
Okay, so these aren't great photos, especially as compared to the
wildlife photographers on this list, but I'm still pretty happy with
them.

Took a walk down to the lake this evening and not much was happening.

Walked up to a pond near the lake, and saw a beaver!  Who knew?
Beavers in Toronto...

I think it's the first time I've ever seen a beaver in the wild (if
a pond near Toronto can be said to be wild).  These were the only two
half-decent ones I got, as it spent much of it's time obscured by a
bush eating fresh green shoots.  After it's meal, it snipped of a
branch and (as you can see) took it into the water.  Then it dove and
that was the last time I saw it.  Waited for about 10 minutes for it
to re-surface, but to no avail.

Then I saw this lovely little blue and orange fellow.  Any ideas as to
what it is?  They were tiny and spent much of their time whizzing
about at high speed catching (I assume) bugs.

All photos taken at ISO 3200 as it was getting dark.  *istD, Sigma
f3.5 50-200 manual focus zoom, Manfrotto monopod.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: The Next Generation

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Stef tries out his new camera...

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/spare.html


Sigh...

At least the glass is Pentax.

;-)

Nice pic, Cotty!

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Re: Back home and PDMLers GESO

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 We're back from our Chicago and mid west 3 state tour.

 It was great to meet the other PDMLers, put faces and characters to names
 and spend time getting to know each other. And the PDML exhibit was a
 resounding success thanks mainly to Christine, Mark and Sue supported by all
 of the contributors.

 Chicago is a fantastic place with a photo opportunity on every corner. And
 yes, Karin and I thought the Eggleston exhibition was great (but the Matisse
 was even better). Here are some pictures of some PDMLers.
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDMLers/

 The 2nd week of our trip was spent in and around Galena in the far NW of
 Illinois, bordering on Wisconsin and Iowa - both of which we visited. It's a
 lovely area and I have many images to sort through. We managed to get around
 on the wrong side of the road without hitting anything or getting divorced
 over navigational differences - so a successful trip then.

 I've a lot of catching up to do via the digest as our on-the-road email had
 limitations - so forgive me if I haven't responded to others' postings yet.

 Cheers, Chris

 PS To the many people who said on first meeting me Ah, so you're Chris.
 What a shame Bob W couldn't make it - I'm not bitter (any more) :-)

I gotta say, all these Chicago galleries are great - yours is no exception.

Terrific stuff there.  Thanks for posting!

cheers,
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Re: GESO - Saturday Evening at the Pond

2010-05-15 Thread paul stenquist
Looking forward to your beaver shot. Need a URL!
Paul
On May 15, 2010, at 8:56 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 Okay, so these aren't great photos, especially as compared to the
 wildlife photographers on this list, but I'm still pretty happy with
 them.
 
 Took a walk down to the lake this evening and not much was happening.
 
 Walked up to a pond near the lake, and saw a beaver!  Who knew?
 Beavers in Toronto...
 
 I think it's the first time I've ever seen a beaver in the wild (if
 a pond near Toronto can be said to be wild).  These were the only two
 half-decent ones I got, as it spent much of it's time obscured by a
 bush eating fresh green shoots.  After it's meal, it snipped of a
 branch and (as you can see) took it into the water.  Then it dove and
 that was the last time I saw it.  Waited for about 10 minutes for it
 to re-surface, but to no avail.
 
 Then I saw this lovely little blue and orange fellow.  Any ideas as to
 what it is?  They were tiny and spent much of their time whizzing
 about at high speed catching (I assume) bugs.
 
 All photos taken at ISO 3200 as it was getting dark.  *istD, Sigma
 f3.5 50-200 manual focus zoom, Manfrotto monopod.
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO Ferruginous Hawk

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:32 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 That's what he look's like to me. The beak and breast coloring match up to
 pics of that beasty. I've been hearing him for a couple of days. Finally,
 Grace and I spotted him in a tree right behind the garage when we came home
 from the park. Unfortunately, I didn't have proper long glass mounted, just
 the DA* 60-250, so this is cropped to about 1/3 of frame. It was also
 getting a bit dim, so I had to shoot at ISO 1600 to get any unaided flash up
 into the tree. F4.5 @ 1.320th.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11014855

Whatever it is, that's a hell of a shot!

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Re: GESO - Saturday Evening at the Pond

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:10 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Looking forward to your beaver shot. Need a URL!

As Ace Ventura said, all-RIGHTY then...:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-evening-at-pond.html

Sorry about that.

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GESO - Saturday Evening at the Pond - this time with a url!

2010-05-15 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-evening-at-pond.html

Oops...

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RE: The Next Generation

2010-05-15 Thread J.C. O'Connell
what are the main issues regarding adapting
pentax K mount lenses to Canon AF bodies?

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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Stef tries out his new camera...

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/spare.html


Sigh...

At least the glass is Pentax.

;-)

Nice pic, Cotty!

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