Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: eckinator Subject: Re: Leica M9 Personally, I pay 2.5% p.a. on the amount I want to receive for any insured item in the event that it becomes unusable for any reason whatsoever, theft, loss, damage, failure, coffee spill etc. no questions asked. I suspect this is available with some credit card purchases. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Leica M9 Not trying to be argumentative. I just think the condemnation I'm hearing regarding the G11 return is rather unwarranted. He just as easily could have gotten a defective one from the store and would have had to return it. There was no visible damage to the camera otherwise BB would have bulked. BB will do exactly the same thing with this camera as they would with any other returned as not working. BB willl receive the credit from Canon or their distrubutor. they will refurbish and resell. What I'm reading from what you are saying, in general terms, is that it is OK to try to decieve to one's advantage in business; and that it is wrong to get caught, since it is possible that at some point one might actually be in the situation that one is not in now. Or something.. I'm not trying to be argumentative either, just trying to clarify. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Leica M9 On 5/21/2010 12:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Not at Best Buy... That's kind of a horror story to me. To buy something in order to return it and get some money in the process out of thin air, effectively... OMG... *sigH* To bring this back somewhat to on topic (relevent to photography, if not Pentax), many years ago I was told of a local photographer who specialized on food and lifestyle photography. She shopped at the local higher end stores, buying place settings, cutlery, glasswear, linens, whatever was needed for the project she was working on at the time. When she was done, it all went back for a refund. Or so I was told, anyway. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bokeh baby
- Original Message - From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: PESO Bokeh baby Found a Lensbaby 3G for Pentax and used the last light for some quick macros: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/133-bokeh-baby I think I'm in love with my new baby :) Those are very nice indeed. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned]
It better contain it's own power supply as well if you're going to mount
it on a K1000.
The other problem I see is that if the camera has no information on what
the lens is doing then in camera SR will have to be switched off or the
two systems will tend to over compensate, possibly by quite a lot.
On 5/20/2010 8:33 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:
If the lens contains its own shake sensor there's no need for the
camera to have SR at all. Theoretically, it'd work on a K1000 if you
didn't mind manual focusing.
regards, Anthony
Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight
(Anon)
On 21 May 2010 07:34, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
On Pentax, yes. Especially since Pentax doesn't support Optical
Stabilization.
On 5/20/2010 5:08 PM, eckinator wrote:
Is use of them mutually exclusive?
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/20 John Whittinghamjo...@carmel.ac.uk:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051401sigma120mm400sonypentax.asp#press
Could be of interest to all those finding SR useless on long lenses, the
150-500 APO HSM is already listed at Sigma UK.
John
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Birding with the 18-250
The Tamron 18-250 is not an ideal lens for birding, but occasionally it's adequately sharp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626335024/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4625707599/ Though occasionally you can even get in close enough with the 16-50 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626341078/sizes/o/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]
The SR remains off on mine when I use a long lens these days, especially if
using a rear converter. I've resorted to fast shutter speeds as SR has been
proven to be ineffective on longer lenses and only complicates the issue.
John
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Subject: Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]
It better contain it's own power supply as well if you're going to mount
it on a K1000.
The other problem I see is that if the camera has no information on what
the lens is doing then in camera SR will have to be switched off or the
two systems will tend to over compensate, possibly by quite a lot.
On 5/20/2010 8:33 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:
If the lens contains its own shake sensor there's no need for the
camera to have SR at all. Theoretically, it'd work on a K1000 if you
didn't mind manual focusing.
regards, Anthony
Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight
(Anon)
On 21 May 2010 07:34, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
On Pentax, yes. Especially since Pentax doesn't support Optical
Stabilization.
On 5/20/2010 5:08 PM, eckinator wrote:
Is use of them mutually exclusive?
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/20 John Whittinghamjo...@carmel.ac.uk:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051401sigma120mm400sonypentax.asp#press
Could be of interest to all those finding SR useless on long lenses, the
150-500 APO HSM is already listed at Sigma UK.
John
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RE: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]
Apparently there is a 17-70 2.8/4 OS HSM as well. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jaume Lahuerta [jlah...@yahoo.com] Sent: 20 May 2010 22:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned] [Spam score:8%] I have heard (it is not the first stabilized Sigma for Pentax) that it is better not to use both simultaneously. I would say that testers preferred the in-lens SR results. Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jue,20 mayo, 2010 23:08 Asunto: Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned] Is use of them mutually exclusive? Cheers Ecke 2010/5/20 John Whittingham href=mailto:jo...@carmel.ac.uk;jo...@carmel.ac.uk: href=http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051401sigma120mm400sonypentax.asp#press; target=_blank http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051401sigma120mm400sonypentax.asp#press Could be of interest to all those finding SR useless on long lenses, the 150-500 APO HSM is already listed at Sigma UK. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List href=mailto:PDML@pdml.net;PDML@pdml.net href=http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net; target=_blank http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List ymailto=mailto:PDML@pdml.net; href=mailto:PDML@pdml.net;PDML@pdml.net href=http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net; target=_blank http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica M9
To bring this back somewhat to on topic (relevent to photography, if not Pentax), many years ago I was told of a local photographer who specialized on food and lifestyle photography. She shopped at the local higher end stores, buying place settings, cutlery, glasswear, linens, whatever was needed for the project she was working on at the time. When she was done, it all went back for a refund. Or so I was told, anyway. That's quite a common practice in that type of photography. I first heard of it happening in London in the early 80s. Some of the stylists do actually borrow stuff legitimately to use in a shoot, and credit the lender accordingly. Worst of all is a practice I heard about from a fashion 'designer' who copied catwalk designs and dumbed them down for the mass market. She used to go to stores and buy stuff that she was going to 'adapt for the market' then return it for a refund. On one occasion she needed to cut up the underwear she was copying. The rags went into a shopping bag, which her assistant later inadvertently picked up and took back to the shop for a refund. I believe in this instance it was unsuccessful, but embarrassing for the assistant. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet
Bob W wrote; On June 6, Bob W, Cotty and I are planning to meet in MK and go to Bletchley Park, the HQ of the WW2 Enigma code breaking facility and now a fascinating museum. It includes lots of stuff from the code breaking world, a museum of early computing and many quirky exhibits in the surviving WW2 huts on the site. http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/content/visit/whattosee.rhtm Any other UK PDMLers (or anyone from further afield of course) fancy coming? And I've only just realised how appropriate the date is. B Yes I spotted that too. There's nothing specific on the web site, but there might be some celebrations going on. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
My Father had similar experiences in his business, particularly in the shoe department where ladies would purchase fashion shoes before a big local social event, wear them once and return them for a refund. Phil Northeast www.northeastmedia.biz northeastme...@bigpond.com Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Leica M9 - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Leica M9 On 5/21/2010 12:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Not at Best Buy... That's kind of a horror story to me. To buy something in order to return it and get some money in the process out of thin air, effectively... OMG... *sigH* To bring this back somewhat to on topic (relevent to photography, if not Pentax), many years ago I was told of a local photographer who specialized on food and lifestyle photography. She shopped at the local higher end stores, buying place settings, cutlery, glasswear, linens, whatever was needed for the project she was working on at the time. When she was done, it all went back for a refund. Or so I was told, anyway. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: wildlife photographer
I went to a presentation by Chris Weston last night. Some stunning animal images. http://www.chrisweston.uk.com/ He's particularly into conservation, concentrating on photographing endangered species: http://www.animalsontheedge.org/ Excellent, thought provoking stuff. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Power Boat racing
V8 powered racing boat making a turn during a race produces plenty of spray: http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/outlawturn.htm K10D Sigma 135-400mm zoom 1/800 @ f13 with shutter speed priority, focal length 320mm, ISO 100 Phil Northeast www.northeastmedia.biz northeastme...@bigpond.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What a Weekend!
Now that work has let up, I'd like to share a few thoughts. 1) I'd like to say big thanks for all the kind words about the exhibit and reception etc. I'm glad everyone had a good time and is generally pleased with the gallery. Just a FYI, two colleagues from work went to DANK last Thursday. They had nothing but great things to say about the pictures they saw. 2) My husband, Darrel, I did our best to get our friends and family out to help support the exhibit, and a good many of them showed up, which was great, but at the reception we received sad news about a dear friend, which put the two of us on the edge of tears, but we were able to rally back. Two of my oldest girl friends came in from the far northern suburbs, and visiting with them led to giggles and stories from memory lane--a lot of those stories I'd like to forget. And work colleagues came, and I suspect a few more will go in the weeks ahead. My mom and dad came, and I had to stop my mom from walking off with one of the PDML annuals. She thought it was a give-away. My sibs came; the only one that didn't show was my eldest nephew, but since it was his prom night, I didn't make much of a fuss over his no-show. He sent me a text message, have a good time at ur thing 2night. Darrel I didn't leave DANK until maybe 1am. 3) Then I got up to meet folks at the Art Institute, which was a great idea. At the Eggelston exhibit, Chris Mitchell was bombarded with questions from a woman who self-identified herself as someone who doesn't know anything about photography. Chris found himself explaining depth of field and why there was more of it in some photos and less of it in others. I'm happy to report, Chris was courteous and patient. 4) After the Art Institute, Boris, Jostein, Sasha, Larry, Miserere, and I went to the Russian Tea Room, but before going, Boris and Sasha argued about which Russian Tea was the best, and it ended with Boris swearing at Sasha in Russian. Everyone agreed that this little set-to made our Russian lunch more authentic. We let the two Russians pick our after lunch tea. Boris said it was too heavy on the smoky bit and too light on the black tea part, but he said the food was good, so we all decided we liked our lunch. At lunch Sasha showed us some of his prints which were great, and we had a look-see at Jostein's photo book from Antarctica, which was great as well. 5) After the Russian Tea room, we just romped in the park a bit, then it was time to eat again--this time pizza, which was good, and it was fun to visit. 6) After pizza, good-bys were said to some, and it was another romp in the park for others, but folks complained the music was too loud, and we headed for Miller's Pub--finally, a chance to relax. I had a very stiff scotch, a few smokes with Doug, and conversation with any PDMLer who was willing. Then the calling hour came and my last good-by was to Miserere. The PDMLers were gone, and I was alone. I moseyed back over to the Art Institute, sat on the steps, and called my husband. While I waited for him, a woman walked by with her dog. It was a handsome dog. He sniffed about my shoes. I asked the woman if she knew the time. I asked for the name of the dog--Spot something. Some comments about it being a nice night were exchanged, and soon the two of them strolled off. I then began to wish for a tripod. Had I one, I would have taken a self-portrait of me alone on the steps of the Art Institute--hell, I'd come full circle, hadn't I? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?
On 20 May 2010 18:55, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: What can a poor guy do among such a band of both mama- and paparazzos, eh? Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
645D｜中判デジタ ル一眼レフカ メラ｜PENTAX
http://www.pentax.jp/japan/imaging/digital/medium/645d/ex.html ^^^ Pentax 645D full resolution JPEG sample images here. Amazing DOF even at 90mm focal length. That what makes it worthy camera compared to APS-C bodies but I'm returning to my APS-C body. It's flower festival opening in my town, so I'm going out-to-shoot now. K20D, DA 10-17, D-XENON 18-55, DA* 16-50, FA 50 F1.4, DA 50-200, ELINCHROM, BOWENS more @ roman.blakout.net | roman.4models.info -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
From: Bruce Dayton Having followed this thread, and being a father of 4, I have to say this would be a poor way to teach my children to behave. What goes around comes around - teach them to abuse the system and where will they be in the future. Seems to smack of the entitlement attitude so prevalent in our society. Whether you can justify the dishonesty by passing the buck on to others than yourself, it is still a character issue. Would you want to be treated this way? Would you want your loved ones to behave this way? I would hope not. If they had asked what happened, would you have told them the truth? And if you did, would you expect a refund? And if you wouldn't have expected a refund, why would you attempt to return it? Seems you would be going expecting to abuse the system, because you knew you could. Is this morally right? The very fact that justifications are needed to feel 'good' about it is telling. I don't justify it. Such blatant dishonesty pissed me off. And it pissed me off any more that the store management wouldn't fight it. They were always giving the employees a hard time about productivity and keeping costs down, but they wouldn't take action to stop outright thievery that certainly was increasing those costs. And compared to the blatant dishonesty I witnessed, returning a camera that stopped working and not volunteering that it stopped working after getting splashed doesn't really rate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail
On 20 May 2010 20:19, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Click Reply. 2. Copy the contents. 3. Discard the message. You'll be returned to the thread. 4. Hover the pointer over Pentax-Discuss at the top of any PDML message and a box will pop up. 5. Click on Email and you'll get a brand new message to compose, already addressed to p...@pdml.net. Nope. Comes up with the personal email. PDML is invisible. 6. Paste the contents from the discarded reply, to be quoted and replied to as is your wont. 7. Give the message a brand new name in the subject field. Viola, a new thread is born. Now I hope to Gawd that this works as I predict. I've done this before, and it has always happened as I described. The only spanner-in-the-works will be if Google has changed something under the hood in Gmail. It's not Gmail, it's my ISP's wemail interface, powered by Google. Which presumably means some locked-down version of Gmail. Thanks for trying but I'll just have to suffer in silence. Which is not suffering for the rest of you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
Whoops - should have checked the map, since it's a long time since I was last in Paris! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 2:51 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce Sacre-Coeur is on top the Buttes-Montmartre. The Parc des Buttes-Chaumont is on top of the Buttes-Chaumont. Different buttes in a different part of town. Near the Parc des Buttes-Chaumont may help to explain it: when the Pope and I visited Paris on the same week-end in May of 1979(?), our group got non-existent service from a restaurant at the foot of the Butte: all the staff, it seems, had gone up the hill to mass with the Pope at Sacré-Coeur! That and other disasters lead to the end of a very warm relationship... John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 4:15 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce My experience in France (probably applies everywhere in fact) was to only go in those restaurants where there is barely a table to be had, and the clientele are all locals. Worked a treat in China, Vietnam and Hong Kong: not so well in Egypt, where I found I did not really like much of the food anyway. John in Brisbane Not foolproof though. I was the 2nd person in here at lunchtime, but by the time I'd finished it was packed: http://www.web-options.com/Paris2010/content/L1000147_large.html B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply: phase II - webmail
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Re: PESO Bokeh baby
Tilt baby, tilt. Very nice indeed. Creamy, too =) Cheers Ecke 2010/5/20 Toine to...@repiuk.nl: Found a Lensbaby 3G for Pentax and used the last light for some quick macros: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/133-bokeh-baby I think I'm in love with my new baby :) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet
On June 6, Bob W, Cotty and I are planning to meet in MK and go to Bletchley Park, the HQ of the WW2 Enigma code breaking facility and now a fascinating museum. It includes lots of stuff from the code breaking world, a museum of early computing and many quirky exhibits in the surviving WW2 huts on the site. http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/content/visit/whattosee.rhtm Any other UK PDMLers (or anyone from further afield of course) fancy coming? And I've only just realised how appropriate the date is. B Yes I spotted that too. There's nothing specific on the web site, but there might be some celebrations going on. Chris This is rather timely, posted last week: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8683369.stm B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Solid State Hard Drives
On 20 May 2010 17:51, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I think there may be a communication problem here. By .. that does this ... I thought you meant the reply command was generating the cross-reference headers (In-Reply-To: and References:), not that your mail interface was always displaying message threads, with no way to change that. I rather doubt this is the first program you've encountered that generates the headers (elm, for example, generates the In-Reply-To: header, and mutt generates both of them, as do Eudora and gmail), so I assume you're griping about the limited control you have over the new GUI you've been stuck with. Yes, it's the enforced threading that is unsatisfactory. I have historically looked at my mail as individual messages, listed with the oldest at the top. I suppose it shows what a flighty and butterfly-minded creature I am, that I can flit from subject to subject as I work my way down the list. But, contrary to opinion elsewhere, I find it less than useful when threads are grouped according to subject and then the contributors are listed in one line, often reduced to a first and last name with a line of dots inbetween. For me, it makes it much more difficult to find a particular post or to deal with the specific conversation I may be having within a thread with one person. I would be apologetic and say that it's down to what I am used to but that is not true. Enforced threading is undoubtedly a less efficient way of dealing with PDML unless you are treating the subjects as more important than the posters. I don't find that to be true. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Without them I'd be off the list. I just don't have time enough to keep up otherwise. I just don't understand this argument. The interface of a digest is roughly the same as using less $MAIL to read the list. I don't see how read every single new message, in an order not of my choosing is a slow operation in any mail reader. Moreover, it seems like if there's too much traffic for you to keep up with, you could achieve big gains by NOT reading every single message... skip over the threads or authors you're not interested in, which is a heck of a lot easier with individual messages than a digest, especially if you employ filters. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On May 21, 2010, at 1:57 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Leica M9 On 5/21/2010 12:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Not at Best Buy... That's kind of a horror story to me. To buy something in order to return it and get some money in the process out of thin air, effectively... OMG... *sigH* To bring this back somewhat to on topic (relevent to photography, if not Pentax), many years ago I was told of a local photographer who specialized on food and lifestyle photography. She shopped at the local higher end stores, buying place settings, cutlery, glasswear, linens, whatever was needed for the project she was working on at the time. When she was done, it all went back for a refund. Or so I was told, anyway. William Robb A lot of photographers, set designers and wardrobe people work that way. The pros usually develop relationships with certain stores. The retailer knows that a few items will be purchased -- disposables and clothing that might be abused. The rest is returned. But it's generally done with an understanding. For example, to dress several people for a television commercial, the wardrobe consultant might bring thirty different outfits to a review session -- all with pricetags hanging. Three will be chosen, the rest returned. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bokeh baby
What Bruce said. Beautiful. Paul On May 21, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Wow, second image is very nice indeed. Seems this lens can produce some very special work. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, May 20, 2010, 1:37:30 PM, you wrote: T Found a Lensbaby 3G for Pentax and used the last light for some quick macros: T http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/133-bokeh-baby T I think I'm in love with my new baby :) T Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What a Weekend!
Nice story. Thanks for sharing. Wish I could have been there. Paul On May 21, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Now that work has let up, I'd like to share a few thoughts. 1) I'd like to say big thanks for all the kind words about the exhibit and reception etc. I'm glad everyone had a good time and is generally pleased with the gallery. Just a FYI, two colleagues from work went to DANK last Thursday. They had nothing but great things to say about the pictures they saw. 2) My husband, Darrel, I did our best to get our friends and family out to help support the exhibit, and a good many of them showed up, which was great, but at the reception we received sad news about a dear friend, which put the two of us on the edge of tears, but we were able to rally back. Two of my oldest girl friends came in from the far northern suburbs, and visiting with them led to giggles and stories from memory lane--a lot of those stories I'd like to forget. And work colleagues came, and I suspect a few more will go in the weeks ahead. My mom and dad came, and I had to stop my mom from walking off with one of the PDML annuals. She thought it was a give-away. My sibs came; the only one that didn't show was my eldest nephew, but since it was his prom night, I didn't make much of a fuss over his no-show. He sent me a text message, have a good time at ur thing 2night. Darrel I didn't leave DANK until maybe 1am. 3) Then I got up to meet folks at the Art Institute, which was a great idea. At the Eggelston exhibit, Chris Mitchell was bombarded with questions from a woman who self-identified herself as someone who doesn't know anything about photography. Chris found himself explaining depth of field and why there was more of it in some photos and less of it in others. I'm happy to report, Chris was courteous and patient. 4) After the Art Institute, Boris, Jostein, Sasha, Larry, Miserere, and I went to the Russian Tea Room, but before going, Boris and Sasha argued about which Russian Tea was the best, and it ended with Boris swearing at Sasha in Russian. Everyone agreed that this little set-to made our Russian lunch more authentic. We let the two Russians pick our after lunch tea. Boris said it was too heavy on the smoky bit and too light on the black tea part, but he said the food was good, so we all decided we liked our lunch. At lunch Sasha showed us some of his prints which were great, and we had a look-see at Jostein's photo book from Antarctica, which was great as well. 5) After the Russian Tea room, we just romped in the park a bit, then it was time to eat again--this time pizza, which was good, and it was fun to visit. 6) After pizza, good-bys were said to some, and it was another romp in the park for others, but folks complained the music was too loud, and we headed for Miller's Pub--finally, a chance to relax. I had a very stiff scotch, a few smokes with Doug, and conversation with any PDMLer who was willing. Then the calling hour came and my last good-by was to Miserere. The PDMLers were gone, and I was alone. I moseyed back over to the Art Institute, sat on the steps, and called my husband. While I waited for him, a woman walked by with her dog. It was a handsome dog. He sniffed about my shoes. I asked the woman if she knew the time. I asked for the name of the dog--Spot something. Some comments about it being a nice night were exchanged, and soon the two of them strolled off. I then began to wish for a tripod. Had I one, I would have taken a self-portrait of me alone on the steps of the Art Institute--hell, I'd come full circle, hadn't I? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Great capture, framing and pose. You certainly have a very good copy of the 55-300. Toine On 19 May 2010 16:59, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Thanks, Toine! Jack --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 4:49 AM Great capture, framing and pose. You certainly have a very good copy of the 55-300. Toine On 19 May 2010 16:59, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Birding with the 18-250
Very crisp work, Larry! Wondering about the zoom settings on the 18~250. Well done 16~50 shot. Jack --- On Thu, 5/20/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Birding with the 18-250 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 11:28 PM The Tamron 18-250 is not an ideal lens for birding, but occasionally it's adequately sharp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626335024/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4625707599/ Though occasionally you can even get in close enough with the 16-50 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626341078/sizes/o/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Birding with the 18-250
Nice =) Did you use a remote for the 16-50 shot? And is the DA* pigeon poo proof? Cheers Ecke 2010/5/21 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: The Tamron 18-250 is not an ideal lens for birding, but occasionally it's adequately sharp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626335024/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4625707599/ Though occasionally you can even get in close enough with the 16-50 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626341078/sizes/o/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Power Boat racing
This is sports. It cannot have been taken with a Pentax let alone a K10D. Liar. I hate you =) Cheers Ecke 2010/5/21 p...@philnortheast.com: V8 powered racing boat making a turn during a race produces plenty of spray: http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/outlawturn.htm K10D Sigma 135-400mm zoom 1/800 @ f13 with shutter speed priority, focal length 320mm, ISO 100 Phil Northeast www.northeastmedia.biz northeastme...@bigpond.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9
Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your reference? TIA Ecke How about the ones who buy two single device boxes, take the side plates off so as to make a two gang box and then bring the side plates back for a full refund? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [freedoms_cry_litigators] Bloglines - Penn. activist facing 8 years in prison after videotaping officers outside courthouse
Horrible story. Now if you could put the link to donate back into the message, perhaps a few people here might cough up a few bucks for his defense =) Ecke 2010/5/21 27...@comcast.net: Look what's happening now ... - Forwarded Message - From: dqu...@thegrid.net To: freedoms cry litigators freedoms_cry_litigat...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:25:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [freedoms_cry_litigators] Bloglines - Penn. activist facing 8 years in prison after videotaping officers outside courthouse Bloglines user quackn (dqu...@thegrid.net) has sent this item to you, with the following personal message: He is supposed to have no contact with co-defendants. What a violation of due process rights, if true. A defendant is entitled under the 6th Amendment to investigate his own case and that includes witnesses, included co-defendants. Further, it is permissible to engage in a joint defense. Photography is Not a Crime Shining a Light on First Amendment, Media and Police Issues Penn. activist facing 8 years in prison after videotaping officers outside courthouse By Carlos Miller on Pennsylvania By Carlos Miller George Donnelly, the Pennsylvania videographer who was arrested last week for videotaping federal officers in front of an Allentown courthouse, is facing eight years in prison for his deed. He is specifically being accused of striking one of the officers. Anybody who has seen the two previous videos where Donnelly was confronted by federal officers in front of a courthouse will find these charges hard to believe. After all, Donnelly has a tendency to remain courteous even when getting threatened with violence. Nevertheless, the federal government is charging him with assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain United States Government officers or employees, which carries a maximum sentence of eight years in prison. The evidence, of course, lies in the videotape they confiscated from him. We’ll be lucky if that ever makes the light of day. When contacted by Photography is Not a Crime today, Donnelly said he was not commenting about his case. But Libertadedia , described as the libertarian encyclopedia, offers detailed information obtained from court records. The site states he has been subjected to the following conditions under house arrest, even though he has not been convicted: • Bail in the amount of $50,000 • Defendant shall submit to random drug testing as directed by pretrial services • Defendant shall undergo drug/alcohol treatment if necessary, as determined by pretrial services • Defendant shall submit to electronic monitoring • Defendant must obtain a land line • Defendant may drive to food store three times per week, and must submit receipts to pretrial services, with prior approval of pretrial services • Travel restricted to the Eastern District of Pennsylvania • Defendant shall surrender and/or refrain from obtaining or applying for a passport • Defendant shall surrender and/or refrain from obtaining any firearms • Defendant shall have no contact with co-defendants in this case, or individuals engaged in any criminal activity • Defendant may not publicize names, images or locations of officers or release information to anyone else Donnelly was arrested on May 11th when he was accompanying activist Julian Heicklens who was passing out literature on jury nullification . This is how Heicklens describes the incident: At 12:10 pm, six federal marshals approached us in a confrontational manner and said we could not pass out literature nor take pictures. They stood right in front of each of us, no more than 6 inches away, so that we could not communicate with passersby. These were 6 of the most obnoxious people I have ever met. We asked the marshals to identify themselves, but they refused. We would not identify ourselves. George attempted to take a picture, but they seized George’s camera. He attempted to retrieve it, but they they threw George to the ground. Then they decided to arrest him for assault. They were joined by a 7th marshal. Heicklens states that Donnelly was released after spending two days in jail, forced to wear an electronic bracelet because he was unable to meet the $50,000 bail. Last month, Donnelly was harassed twice for videotaping outside a federal courthouse, including one time when a federal officer got into his face and stated the following: “If you get too close to me with that camera, I’ll take it out of your hand and ram it down your throat” Although this was clearly a physical threat and there is no doubt who it came from, the officer was never disciplined because he was still working his beat since then, according to an interview with Donnelly a couple of weeks back. The second time he was harassed, a different set of officers
Re: PESO Bokeh baby
Thanks everyone. I will give this little lens some workout in the next days. A very funny lens. Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 first thoughts
Paul, Unlike you, a small majority of the digital work I shoot is in very dim light. I've shot more frames on the K-x at ISO 1600 and up than below since I tend to shoot film in better light. I'd like the other advantages of the K-7 (accurate exposure, sealing, deep buffer) but I need that high ISO performance and the K-x simply delivers there in an exceptional fashion. K-x vs. K-7 is for me a need vs. want comparison. -Adam On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:34 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I don't think that way. My K7, which now has 15,000 frames on the clock will be due to retire into backup mode by the time the next top of the line Pentax camera is released. At that time, my K20 will be sold. The K7 has been so vastly superior to the K20 that I couldn't imagine having been without it all this time. I don't shoot a lot of low light, but the K7 has served me well at up to 3200. (My Chicago gallery pic was shot at 3200 ISO.) It shows a bit of grain, but I don't find that objectionable in low light photography. On the other hand, I do need accurate exposure, a substantial frame rate, bad weather capability, and a fast buffer. Paul On May 20, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Miserere wrote: Pretty much my thoughts. Let's wait to see what September brings. --M. On 20/05/2010, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Yes, the K7 addresses almost everything from the K10D that bugged me. Specifically: 1. Unpredictable exposure (with or without flash) 2. Loud. That shutter. Wow. Loud. 3. Unpredictable autofocus (will it lock or not?). Too many missed shots as I had to flip to MF and focus it myself. This looks like that will be a thing of the past now. I'm already thinking that keeping it for the wife to use would almost be cruel. But that's what our budget allows for the moment and I'll get her a K-x somewhere down the line. I'll reiterate, though, that the image quality of the K10D did not leave me wanting. When you wrestle the exposure and focus to where you want 'em, the resulting images were/are top-notch. It was just the user experience handling the camera which would drive me batty way too often. -Charles The K-7 pretty much nailed everything I wanted fixed about earlier Pentax DSLR's except the high ISO performance, which wasn't good enough to get me to upgrade. I still want a K-7x, the K-x is a great little body but the K-7's VF, build and sealing and LiIon batteries would be a big upgrade for me, I just need K-x level high ISO from it. -Adam -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my mobile device \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Great capture Jack, delightful image =) Cheers Ecke 2010/5/19 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What a Weekend!
What a nice report, Christine. Didn't know there was now a Russian Tea Room in Chicago . Wish I'd chatted up Darrell more, too. And met your parents -- though maybe I did - things were blurry that night and I dont even drink. Hugs, ann Christine Aguila wrote: Now that work has let up, I'd like to share a few thoughts. 1) I'd like to say big thanks for all the kind words about the exhibit and reception etc. I'm glad everyone had a good time and is generally pleased with the gallery. Just a FYI, two colleagues from work went to DANK last Thursday. They had nothing but great things to say about the pictures they saw. 2) My husband, Darrel, I did our best to get our friends and family out to help support the exhibit, and a good many of them showed up, which was great, but at the reception we received sad news about a dear friend, which put the two of us on the edge of tears, but we were able to rally back. Two of my oldest girl friends came in from the far northern suburbs, and visiting with them led to giggles and stories from memory lane--a lot of those stories I'd like to forget. And work colleagues came, and I suspect a few more will go in the weeks ahead. My mom and dad came, and I had to stop my mom from walking off with one of the PDML annuals. She thought it was a give-away. My sibs came; the only one that didn't show was my eldest nephew, but since it was his prom night, I didn't make much of a fuss over his no-show. He sent me a text message, have a good time at ur thing 2night. Darrel I didn't leave DANK until maybe 1am. 3) Then I got up to meet folks at the Art Institute, which was a great idea. At the Eggelston exhibit, Chris Mitchell was bombarded with questions from a woman who self-identified herself as someone who doesn't know anything about photography. Chris found himself explaining depth of field and why there was more of it in some photos and less of it in others. I'm happy to report, Chris was courteous and patient. 4) After the Art Institute, Boris, Jostein, Sasha, Larry, Miserere, and I went to the Russian Tea Room, but before going, Boris and Sasha argued about which Russian Tea was the best, and it ended with Boris swearing at Sasha in Russian. Everyone agreed that this little set-to made our Russian lunch more authentic. We let the two Russians pick our after lunch tea. Boris said it was too heavy on the smoky bit and too light on the black tea part, but he said the food was good, so we all decided we liked our lunch. At lunch Sasha showed us some of his prints which were great, and we had a look-see at Jostein's photo book from Antarctica, which was great as well. 5) After the Russian Tea room, we just romped in the park a bit, then it was time to eat again--this time pizza, which was good, and it was fun to visit. 6) After pizza, good-bys were said to some, and it was another romp in the park for others, but folks complained the music was too loud, and we headed for Miller's Pub--finally, a chance to relax. I had a very stiff scotch, a few smokes with Doug, and conversation with any PDMLer who was willing. Then the calling hour came and my last good-by was to Miserere. The PDMLers were gone, and I was alone. I moseyed back over to the Art Institute, sat on the steps, and called my husband. While I waited for him, a woman walked by with her dog. It was a handsome dog. He sniffed about my shoes. I asked the woman if she knew the time. I asked for the name of the dog--Spot something. Some comments about it being a nice night were exchanged, and soon the two of them strolled off. I then began to wish for a tripod. Had I one, I would have taken a self-portrait of me alone on the steps of the Art Institute--hell, I'd come full circle, hadn't I? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
John Coyle wrote: Whoops - should have checked the map, since it's a long time since I was last in Paris! John in Brisbane Yah gotta watch your Buttes in Paris ann in NY -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 2:51 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce Sacre-Coeur is on top the Buttes-Montmartre. The Parc des Buttes-Chaumont is on top of the Buttes-Chaumont. Different buttes in a different part of town. Near the Parc des Buttes-Chaumont may help to explain it: when the Pope and I visited Paris on the same week-end in May of 1979(?), our group got non-existent service from a restaurant at the foot of the Butte: all the staff, it seems, had gone up the hill to mass with the Pope at Sacré-Coeur! That and other disasters lead to the end of a very warm relationship... John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 4:15 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce My experience in France (probably applies everywhere in fact) was to only go in those restaurants where there is barely a table to be had, and the clientele are all locals. Worked a treat in China, Vietnam and Hong Kong: not so well in Egypt, where I found I did not really like much of the food anyway. John in Brisbane Not foolproof though. I was the 2nd person in here at lunchtime, but by the time I'd finished it was packed: http://www.web-options.com/Paris2010/content/L1000147_large.html B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Generous comments, Ecke. Thanks! Jack --- On Fri, 5/21/10, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 6:19 AM Great capture Jack, delightful image =) Cheers Ecke 2010/5/19 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Matthew Hunt On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:12 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: It's because I'm coming through the digests, and it says not to reply to: Re: Contents of PDML digest... By the time I was on mailing lists around 1994, it was already clear that digests needed to die a horrible, painful death. Without them I'd be off the list. I just don't have time enough to keep up otherwise. I can barely keep up now. In fact, I'm afraid that once I return to school next week, even that will be more than I can manage. Paid my tuition today - going to be a little stranger than I expected. Reading them in a threading email client with the capability to archive selected emails directly to a folder is actually quicker and less hassle than reading a digest. GMail does this quite well btw. -Adam -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What a Weekend!
Christine, Wow, I missed Darrel entirely! Tell him Sorry. I enjoyed meeting your Mom, Dad, sister, and sister-in-law. It was a fun weekend. I have really enjoyed seeing people's pictures. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that work has let up, I'd like to share a few thoughts. 1) I'd like to say big thanks for all the kind words about the exhibit and reception etc. I'm glad everyone had a good time and is generally pleased with the gallery. Just a FYI, two colleagues from work went to DANK last Thursday. They had nothing but great things to say about the pictures they saw. 2) My husband, Darrel, I did our best to get our friends and family out to help support the exhibit, and a good many of them showed up, which was great, but at the reception we received sad news about a dear friend, which put the two of us on the edge of tears, but we were able to rally back. Two of my oldest girl friends came in from the far northern suburbs, and visiting with them led to giggles and stories from memory lane--a lot of those stories I'd like to forget. And work colleagues came, and I suspect a few more will go in the weeks ahead. My mom and dad came, and I had to stop my mom from walking off with one of the PDML annuals. She thought it was a give-away. My sibs came; the only one that didn't show was my eldest nephew, but since it was his prom night, I didn't make much of a fuss over his no-show. He sent me a text message, have a good time at ur thing 2night. Darrel I didn't leave DANK until maybe 1am. 3) Then I got up to meet folks at the Art Institute, which was a great idea. At the Eggelston exhibit, Chris Mitchell was bombarded with questions from a woman who self-identified herself as someone who doesn't know anything about photography. Chris found himself explaining depth of field and why there was more of it in some photos and less of it in others. I'm happy to report, Chris was courteous and patient. 4) After the Art Institute, Boris, Jostein, Sasha, Larry, Miserere, and I went to the Russian Tea Room, but before going, Boris and Sasha argued about which Russian Tea was the best, and it ended with Boris swearing at Sasha in Russian. Everyone agreed that this little set-to made our Russian lunch more authentic. We let the two Russians pick our after lunch tea. Boris said it was too heavy on the smoky bit and too light on the black tea part, but he said the food was good, so we all decided we liked our lunch. At lunch Sasha showed us some of his prints which were great, and we had a look-see at Jostein's photo book from Antarctica, which was great as well. 5) After the Russian Tea room, we just romped in the park a bit, then it was time to eat again--this time pizza, which was good, and it was fun to visit. 6) After pizza, good-bys were said to some, and it was another romp in the park for others, but folks complained the music was too loud, and we headed for Miller's Pub--finally, a chance to relax. I had a very stiff scotch, a few smokes with Doug, and conversation with any PDMLer who was willing. Then the calling hour came and my last good-by was to Miserere. The PDMLers were gone, and I was alone. I moseyed back over to the Art Institute, sat on the steps, and called my husband. While I waited for him, a woman walked by with her dog. It was a handsome dog. He sniffed about my shoes. I asked the woman if she knew the time. I asked for the name of the dog--Spot something. Some comments about it being a nice night were exchanged, and soon the two of them strolled off. I then began to wish for a tripod. Had I one, I would have taken a self-portrait of me alone on the steps of the Art Institute--hell, I'd come full circle, hadn't I? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What a Weekend!
Thanks Christine, very nice read! --Sasha On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, Wow, I missed Darrel entirely! Tell him Sorry. I enjoyed meeting your Mom, Dad, sister, and sister-in-law. It was a fun weekend. I have really enjoyed seeing people's pictures. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that work has let up, I'd like to share a few thoughts. 1) I'd like to say big thanks for all the kind words about the exhibit and reception etc. I'm glad everyone had a good time and is generally pleased with the gallery. Just a FYI, two colleagues from work went to DANK last Thursday. They had nothing but great things to say about the pictures they saw. 2) My husband, Darrel, I did our best to get our friends and family out to help support the exhibit, and a good many of them showed up, which was great, but at the reception we received sad news about a dear friend, which put the two of us on the edge of tears, but we were able to rally back. Two of my oldest girl friends came in from the far northern suburbs, and visiting with them led to giggles and stories from memory lane--a lot of those stories I'd like to forget. And work colleagues came, and I suspect a few more will go in the weeks ahead. My mom and dad came, and I had to stop my mom from walking off with one of the PDML annuals. She thought it was a give-away. My sibs came; the only one that didn't show was my eldest nephew, but since it was his prom night, I didn't make much of a fuss over his no-show. He sent me a text message, have a good time at ur thing 2night. Darrel I didn't leave DANK until maybe 1am. 3) Then I got up to meet folks at the Art Institute, which was a great idea. At the Eggelston exhibit, Chris Mitchell was bombarded with questions from a woman who self-identified herself as someone who doesn't know anything about photography. Chris found himself explaining depth of field and why there was more of it in some photos and less of it in others. I'm happy to report, Chris was courteous and patient. 4) After the Art Institute, Boris, Jostein, Sasha, Larry, Miserere, and I went to the Russian Tea Room, but before going, Boris and Sasha argued about which Russian Tea was the best, and it ended with Boris swearing at Sasha in Russian. Everyone agreed that this little set-to made our Russian lunch more authentic. We let the two Russians pick our after lunch tea. Boris said it was too heavy on the smoky bit and too light on the black tea part, but he said the food was good, so we all decided we liked our lunch. At lunch Sasha showed us some of his prints which were great, and we had a look-see at Jostein's photo book from Antarctica, which was great as well. 5) After the Russian Tea room, we just romped in the park a bit, then it was time to eat again--this time pizza, which was good, and it was fun to visit. 6) After pizza, good-bys were said to some, and it was another romp in the park for others, but folks complained the music was too loud, and we headed for Miller's Pub--finally, a chance to relax. I had a very stiff scotch, a few smokes with Doug, and conversation with any PDMLer who was willing. Then the calling hour came and my last good-by was to Miserere. The PDMLers were gone, and I was alone. I moseyed back over to the Art Institute, sat on the steps, and called my husband. While I waited for him, a woman walked by with her dog. It was a handsome dog. He sniffed about my shoes. I asked the woman if she knew the time. I asked for the name of the dog--Spot something. Some comments about it being a nice night were exchanged, and soon the two of them strolled off. I then began to wish for a tripod. Had I one, I would have taken a self-portrait of me alone on the steps of the Art Institute--hell, I'd come full circle, hadn't I? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Power Boat racing
Nice timing! Very cool boat and you have caught it a just the right moment. My V8 powered boat won't do that... :) -- Bruce Friday, May 21, 2010, 12:20:34 AM, you wrote: ppc V8 powered racing boat making a turn during a race produces plenty of spray: ppc http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/outlawturn.htm ppc K10D Sigma 135-400mm zoom 1/800 @ f13 with shutter speed priority, focal ppc length 320mm, ISO 100 ppc Phil Northeast ppc www.northeastmedia.biz ppc northeastme...@bigpond.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely not
Drivers in the UK are generally fairly considerate towards cyclists. Not as good as the French, but not bad. And the BBC is normally fairly even-handed in its treatment of most subjects. But have a look at this video for an extreme anti-bike bias. It beggars belief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UiWji4osR0feature=player_embedded -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Solid State Hard Drives
I'm using Asus EEE 701 (oldest) 4Gb SSD model for more than 2 years. Startup time is impressive - no need to suspend. Just power off and then power on :) It is running Linux. You can drop it with no fear (i did at least 2 times) Writes are not rocket fast (about the same 25-30mb/sec), but seek time is zero :) In my office we got 3 test units with 30 Gb Kingston SSD drives - they are much faster. Gasha steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-19 14:56 , Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-05-19 14:57, steve harley wrote: i have done some study [on SSDs] If you really want the ultimate in balls-to-the-wall performance, look into the SSDs that have a PCI Express x16 interface rather than a SATA interface. should have mentioned that, though for myself i'm pretty laptop-centric and it's the power savings as much as the speed that attracts me -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What a Weekend!
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Christine, Wow, I missed Darrel entirely! Tell him Sorry. Understandable, he doesn't really stand out in a crowd :-). cheers, christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Now how did this happen?
Den 21. mai 2010 kl. 00.09 skrev Bruce Walker: DagT wrote: I googled my name and found this (see the last page): http://www.viewfinders.be/Events/archives/april2010.pdf Anyone we know from PDML in that club? DagT http://www.thrane.name Perhaps they just have really good taste? :) -bmw Of course :-) I just wondered how they found me... DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: since my blog is such a resounding success...
Wow, looks like you're off to a great start! I like both pictures. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: OT: since my blog is such a resounding success... I thought I'd start another one. Actually, I just wanted a place to post PESO's and blather on about photography and writing, when it strikes me. so: http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/ yep, the posterous collective. For the two or three remaining fans of The Flies, I'll continue my infrequent, disturbing, other blatherings there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely not
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 04:02:08PM +0100, Bob W wrote: Drivers in the UK are generally fairly considerate towards cyclists. Not as good as the French, but not bad. And the BBC is normally fairly even-handed in its treatment of most subjects. But have a look at this video for an extreme anti-bike bias. It beggars belief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UiWji4osR0feature=player_embedded It's Bike to work Week in the US (Bike to work day was today). The Washington Post had an article about the conflicts between cars and bikes that was slanted against bikes. The writer kept going back to the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs argument but only briefly touched on the drivers that go out of their way to intimidated and assault bicyclists. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rome and Lisbon
Hi Stig: I like both pictures very much. I prefer the color rendering in Lisbon--it's lovely. I like the nun, but not so keen on the color rendering. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: SV Hovland p...@heime.org To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: Rome and Lisbon Hi. After one weekend in Rome with friends and one weekend in Lisbon with wife, I am finally back home and have had some time editing pictures. Both great cities, but to many tourists in Rome. Lisbon is totally different and I really like that city. Reminds me of Nice in France. I also took a small trip to Sintra a few kilometers west of Lisbon and to Armação de Pêra on the south coast. Here is one from Rome: http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp6138.jpg And one from Lisbon: http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp6307b.jpg Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rare photo of Eggleston with his young son
- Original Message - From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: Rare photo of Eggleston with his young son Or at least that's what I imagine they would look like: http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2010/05/15/saturday-night-special-safe/ Har! Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce John Coyle wrote: Whoops - should have checked the map, since it's a long time since I was last in Paris! John in Brisbane Yah gotta watch your Buttes in Paris I thought that was Rome :-) Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PEOW: Mallard Youngun's
What Dan said! Boy, the little guy is a cutie! Good one, Jay! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Re: PEOW: Mallard Youngun's Wow! I love your image of the little chicks. Well done indeed. Dan On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Jay Taylor taylorjohn...@cablespeed.com wrote: Pictures Every Once in a While. Here are a couple captures of a Mallard family I recently observed. Taken with the K-7 and DA*300/4. http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Nature/1D3/Ducklings-Kubota/861296397_6TSLx- XL.jpg http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Nature/1D3/IGP0965/845229260_DtKC5-L.jpg Thanks for looking/commenting, JayT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Now how did this happen?
- Original Message - From: DagT li...@thrane.name To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Now how did this happen? Den 21. mai 2010 kl. 00.09 skrev Bruce Walker: DagT wrote: I googled my name and found this (see the last page): http://www.viewfinders.be/Events/archives/april2010.pdf Anyone we know from PDML in that club? DagT http://www.thrane.name Perhaps they just have really good taste? :) -bmw Of course :-) I just wondered how they found me... Something like this happened to Paul Stenquist once, I think. Or maybe it wasn't him. Never mind. I don't know what I'm talking about :-). Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Milton Keynes PDML meet
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:12 AM Subject: RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet On June 6, Bob W, Cotty and I are planning to meet in MK and go to Bletchley Park, the HQ of the WW2 Enigma code breaking facility and now a fascinating museum. It includes lots of stuff from the code breaking world, a museum of early computing and many quirky exhibits in the surviving WW2 huts on the site. http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/content/visit/whattosee.rhtm Any other UK PDMLers (or anyone from further afield of course) fancy coming? I wish I could, but I did the next best thing. I called in a favor with my great aunt who owns a pub in Monkston, so I got you guys covered for free beer all night. Just head east, then go a bit north and you'll find her pub there-abouts. See, easy to find. My great aunt, Betty, was over in Melton Keynes one year for that big bowling thing, met a British guy, and they married. He died a few years back. A boulder killed him while he was hill climbing. Great aunt Betty took over the pub. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bird watcher Maritimtim
That's nice, Tim. Hope you had a nice birthday! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: PESO: Bird watcher Maritimtim Since so many at the list have been exposed lately. Now I think it's my turn. http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/bird-wathcer-maritimtim.html -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Killdeer
What John said. The bird's got good attitude. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: PESO: Killdeer From: Jack Davis Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held That's a good capture. Tack sharp. Even at 300mm I have a hard time getting close enough to fill the frame. They're harder to photograph than Greta Garbo. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Aere Favete
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 6:41 AM Subject: PESO - Aere Favete Hi all, I don't think this is a masterpiece, just a fun picture with the interesting Samyang 8mm fisheye lens I bought some time ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc25e.htm Very fun! Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso Death Defying
Good one, Larry. I see Doug there! cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: peso Death Defying http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4608248172/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - New Toy Truck
Very nice, Frank. I also like the sailing one. And you had a few lake shots which were nice too.Your new digs sound nice. And I take it you're back with your girl friend? Did I get that right? Hope the new place works out. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:35 AM Subject: PESO - New Toy Truck I sat on this one for a while, not really knowing what to do with it - for several reasons. First of all, there's that silly no cropping film especially from my rangefinder rule. I've since realized that while it's not my preference, sometimes it just has to be done. Second of all, that background, especially the ads in the window of the used/discount computer place was pissing me off. But there's just something about the look in the kid's eyes, the way he's hiding his face behind the truck, his whole body language that I find very compelling. Then I realized that those signs are part of this story in some way. Distracting they may be, but they say something about the neighbourhood where this was taken. I'm walking down Parliament Street in Toronto's Cabbagetown late in the winter when I see this kid with his father. He's playing with this truck. I start chatting and compliment him on the toy. He tells me that his dad just gave it to him that day. I ask him and his dad if they'd like me to take a photo of the boy and his new toy and both agree. Hope you enjoy: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/new-toy-truck.html Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - strolling
Love it, Sasha! That's great! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:57 AM Subject: peso - strolling http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4609700698/ cc are very welcome. --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?
Oh, that's funny! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: PESO - What's Jostein doing? (He's the one with his back to the camera) Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What a Weekend!
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Wish I could have been there. Not to worry, Paul. The next party's at your house, remember? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet
in the surviving WW2 huts on the site. http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/content/visit/whattosee.rhtm Any other UK PDMLers (or anyone from further afield of course) fancy coming? I wish I could, but I did the next best thing. I called in a favor with my great aunt who owns a pub in Monkston, so I got you guys covered for free beer all night. Just head east, then go a bit north and you'll find her pub there-abouts. See, easy to find. Excellent - thanks! My great aunt, Betty, was over in Melton Keynes one year for that big bowling thing, met a British guy, and they married. He died a few years back. A boulder killed him while he was hill climbing. I'm going hill walking next weekend. Guess I'd better wear a hat. Great aunt Betty took over the pub. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Killdeer
Yeah, I think he was actually smiling and worked very well with me. ;-) Thanks, Christine! Jack --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 9:13 AM What John said. The bird's got good attitude. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: PESO: Killdeer From: Jack Davis Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held That's a good capture. Tack sharp. Even at 300mm I have a hard time getting close enough to fill the frame. They're harder to photograph than Greta Garbo. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Milton Keynes PDML meet
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com I'm going hill walking next weekend. Guess I'd better wear a hat. Yea, and watch out for those mountain-bike cyclists--I've heard they are really anti-pedestrian. I saw some video on YouTube a while back. Shocking. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Leica M9 And compared to the blatant dishonesty I witnessed, returning a camera that stopped working and not volunteering that it stopped working after getting splashed doesn't really rate. So it's OK to beat your wife as long as the bruises aren't visible? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Leica M9 For example, to dress several people for a television commercial, the wardrobe consultant might bring thirty different outfits to a review session -- all with pricetags hanging. Three will be chosen, the rest returned. But will those three be returned after the shoot or will they be kept by the wardrobe department? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: eckinator Subject: Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9 Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your reference? In North America, a device box is something that a wall mounted switch (a light switch for example) would be contained by. Due to the way they are constructed, things like UPC stickers are put on the side of the box, but the sides can be removed to allow two boxes to be attached together. So, a person will buy two single device boxes, take one side off of each one and attach the two boxes together to make a bnox that will hold two light switches. This leaves them with two side plates, which if they have done what they are doing correctly, will both have a UPC sticker attached. They bring the side plates back, hopefully get someone at the returns desk that isn't familiar with this particular scam or what a box should look like, and, if all goes well, they get a refund on the boxes for the side plates that they are returning. William Robb How about the ones who buy two single device boxes, take the side plates off so as to make a two gang box and then bring the side plates back for a full refund? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
From: William Robb From: Boris Liberman On 5/21/2010 12:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Not at Best Buy... That's kind of a horror story to me. To buy something in order to return it and get some money in the process out of thin air, effectively... OMG... *sigH* To bring this back somewhat to on topic (relevent to photography, if not Pentax), many years ago I was told of a local photographer who specialized on food and lifestyle photography. She shopped at the local higher end stores, buying place settings, cutlery, glasswear, linens, whatever was needed for the project she was working on at the time. When she was done, it all went back for a refund. Or so I was told, anyway. William Robb Yeah, I've known people who did that sort of thing. It's one of those gray area things. I guess they're within the letter of the law if the stores allow it, and I won't say they're dishonest doing it, but I couldn't do that myself. No one's 100% honest all the time. Certainly I can't pretend to be, but that's just not the way I'm bent. I've developed a fine eye for second-hand goodies to use when I need props. I spend some idle time wandering the thrift shops, Goodwill and the like. If I find something and it's not too expensive, I'll buy something to use it. And afterwards, if it's just going to clutter up the place and I'll never have further use for it, I might sell it again ... or even donate it back. Plus, I have, on occasion, rented stuff from thrift shops for a shoot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply
From: Matthew Hunt On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Without them I'd be off the list. I just don't have time enough to keep up otherwise. I just don't understand this argument. The interface of a digest is roughly the same as using less $MAIL to read the list. I don't see how read every single new message, in an order not of my choosing is a slow operation in any mail reader. Moreover, it seems like if there's too much traffic for you to keep up with, you could achieve big gains by NOT reading every single message... skip over the threads or authors you're not interested in, which is a heck of a lot easier with individual messages than a digest, especially if you employ filters. I don't know if I can explain, because I'm not sure I understand it myself, but it just takes me less time to go through the messages in digest form. I originally subscribed to the list and the number of individual messages overwhelmed me. I switched to the digests and it became manageable. I scroll down the digests and can tell within a line or two at most if I'm interested in an individual message, so it's no trouble to skip over the ones I'm not interested in. Perhaps it's because it's easier for me to tell from the message if I *AM* interested in it, and because I can't tell that from just the subject line or who the sender is. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9
From: eckinator Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your reference? TIA Ecke How about the ones who buy two single device boxes, take the side plates off so as to make a two gang box and then bring the side plates back for a full refund? Yeah, I'll second that. I understand what the single gang boxes are and about doubling to make a two gang box (although why not just buy a two gang box?), but I don't understand how you get a refund - or could expect one - from returning just the side plates? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Bruce, The question in my mind became in this instance: Did spilling a single drink on the camera make the owner at fault for the subsequent failure of the object? My wife has a G9 and I have a G10, the predecessors to the G11. Knowing their build quality and that I use the G10 in wet and windy conditions when skiing, I would not think that spilling something on any modern camera should immediately make it inoperative. Back to the moral issues since that seems to be what we're talking about. I'll say what I think and am willing to take the brunt of it. Big picture, not just this incident - Does being honest *always* require telling everything you know? If the answer is yes, then I'm afraid one will find themselves at a severe disadvantage as there are certain types of people who will capitalize on that to their own advantage and to other's disadvantage. There is honesty but there's also discretion, both are admirable attributes and serve one well. If it were me with the G11 drink spill, I would have likely done the same as occurred. If asked, I would have told the truth that I spilled something on it. If not asked, I would figure they did not deem the reason important and were simply happy to give me a replacement. Had I been asked, I'd have made the claim that I certainly wouldn't expect a spill to cause the camera to immediately become non-functional. Let's see, will it work at SeaWorld when splashed? What about at Yosemite in the spray of Bridal Veil Falls, a rainy day? Do you know how many extended warranties are purchased to cover this sort of thing that are never used? Now there is a scam. The majority of them, never utilized, goes straight to the bottom line. A hugh profit center preying on people's insecurities. A little story. About eight years ago, through a totally stupid act of my own doing, I accidentally set off the fire suppression system in my hotel room (I could make this story very funny if I gave you all the details). Though buck naked at the time... No... I pulled on some pants, threw my laptop bag out into the hallway, and bounded down two flights of stairs to the office, just as those nauseating alarms and flashing lights started going off all over the hotel. I told them what I'd done that set the sprinklers off. Guess what? They did not know how to turn the fire supression system off. They did not have a procedure manual at the hotel. They called another hotel in the same chain to see if they knew how. Yes, but different system. Fire department calls to see if there's a fire. No there's a flood, so you needn't come. I go back to my room and the maintenance guy is standing in two inches of water with a shop vac trying to vacum up the water while it's still coming out of the ceiling. I immediately told him to get out of there before he gets himself electrocuted. Still trying to figure out the suppression system, I am running and relaying information from the office to the maintenance guy back at the control panel which is in the basement/pool level of the hotel. Still bare chest, pair of pants, bare feet. As I'm running past the pool I see water dripping out of the ceiling into the pool! From 3 floors above! Oh crap and a bunch of other things! The local Fire Department finally shows up sirens blaring. They go down and just as they're about to stem the flow of water, the system exhausts itself. Apparently, it's a finite pressurized supply. So all the water that would have been used for the entire hotel, went out into my room, over a period of about 30 minutes. Oh crap and a bunch of other things! The hotel graciously assigned me another room. I went and bought dry clothes and went into work. I lurked back in through the side door that evening around 8:00. Carpets were pulled up all over the place with big blowers running. Wow I think, several weeks later, they haven't sued me. Not quite that lucky. Months later, after having stayed at the hotel for the next four months, out of a misplaced sense of guilt, I receive a letter. It's from the hotel chain's, insurance company's, risk management company. They're demanding payment of $27,000 in damages, including my room, the 3 floors below, and lost income because other hotel residents left (the alarm system kept malfunctioning and going off intermittently for the next 8 - 10 hours). I finally got some advice and called my home owners insurance to see if I was in some way covered through it. Yes. So they took up the litigation in my defense. My argument was, that while I was indeed responsible for having set the system off, I was not responsible for the hotel not knowing how to control it and turn it off. I would have thought they should be able to turn it off in under 5 minutes. So I figured I was responsible for no more than 1/6 of the damages. Under Washington State law, a tenant is only responsible for their room. The arbitrator also agreed with the argument that the hotel itself was to blame for
RE: Leica M9
And compared to the blatant dishonesty I witnessed, returning a camera that stopped working and not volunteering that it stopped working after getting splashed doesn't really rate. So it's OK to beat your wife as long as the bruises aren't visible? Burqa and sunglasses - that should do the trick. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Perhaps it's because it's easier for me to tell from the message if I *AM* interested in it, and because I can't tell that from just the subject line or who the sender is. But mail readers don't force you to make that decision based only on the subject line. Every mail reader I've used has some way of going from the *content* of one message directly to the *content* of the next message, which seems to be the way you like to read mail, with the added benefit that one keystroke gets you to the start of the next message, no matter how long or short the previous one was. For example, in Gmail you can use j/k and n/p to move by messages or threads, or in Outlook you can have the preview pane showing the message content, and use the arrow keys to move from one message to the next. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
From: Christian Skofteland It's Bike to work Week in the US (Bike to work day was today). The Washington Post had an article about the conflicts between cars and bikes that was slanted against bikes. The writer kept going back to the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs argument but only briefly touched on the drivers that go out of their way to intimidated and assault bicyclists. I have seen plenty of the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs. It's a self correcting problem as far as I'm concerned. I've never witnessed motorists go out of their way to intimidate cyclists. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I have never seen it. I have been hit (brushed) by motorists twice when I was on a bicycle. Both times I was knocked down, but otherwise uninjured. In neither case, one a city bus, did the driver stop and inquire if I was OK. I don't even know if they were aware they had knocked me down. I have twice had cyclists crash into me in my automobile. Once from the rear, once from the passenger side. In both cases I checked that they were OK. In neither case did the cyclist inquire as to possible damage done to my vehicle ... the side hit DID require body work to repair. I try to be vigilant whenever cyclists are on the road. Given the disparity in road weights momentum, I don't ever want to hit one. But, it's not going to be my fault if it happens. It will be in spite of my having done everything I could to share the road. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9 I understand what the single gang boxes are and about doubling to make a two gang box (although why not just buy a two gang box?), but I don't understand how you get a refund - or could expect one - from returning just the side plates? 1) Be dishonest. 2) Find a store that has trained it's people to take refunds without question on the theory that the bad refunds are a very small % of the total. Of course this leads to 3) watch your bad refund % grow as word gets around that it is possible to get away with this. True stories: I was putting a cart of returned 16' deck boards back on the rack. There were a lot of them, probably close to 60. Below the second layer of new boards, the rest were used boards, complete with years of weathering and two screw holes every 16 inches. I had a 12' 2x4 come back on a cart. Except it was no longer 12', it was closer to 11'. And it had a screw sticking out of it. The only justice in this one was that it was an ACQ treated board, and the screw was on coated for ACQ, so probably by now their deck has fallen apart. Yesterday, a return cart of teleposts. No boxes, missing support plates and scew jacks. This one will be another write off of several hundred dollars when I get to it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On May 21, 2010, at 12:34 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Leica M9 For example, to dress several people for a television commercial, the wardrobe consultant might bring thirty different outfits to a review session -- all with pricetags hanging. Three will be chosen, the rest returned. But will those three be returned after the shoot or will they be kept by the wardrobe department? The stuff that is actually used is paid for. Billed to the job, so they go to the client. Sometimes the clients say to give them to the actors. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not From: Christian Skofteland It's Bike to work Week in the US (Bike to work day was today). The Washington Post had an article about the conflicts between cars and bikes that was slanted against bikes. The writer kept going back to the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs argument but only briefly touched on the drivers that go out of their way to intimidated and assault bicyclists. I have seen plenty of the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs. It's a self correcting problem as far as I'm concerned. I've never witnessed motorists go out of their way to intimidate cyclists. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I have never seen it. I have been hit (brushed) by motorists twice when I was on a bicycle. Both times I was knocked down, but otherwise uninjured. In neither case, one a city bus, did the driver stop and inquire if I was OK. I don't even know if they were aware they had knocked me down. I have twice had cyclists crash into me in my automobile. Once from the rear, once from the passenger side. In both cases I checked that they were OK. In neither case did the cyclist inquire as to possible damage done to my vehicle ... the side hit DID require body work to repair. I try to be vigilant whenever cyclists are on the road. Given the disparity in road weights momentum, I don't ever want to hit one. But, it's not going to be my fault if it happens. It will be in spite of my having done everything I could to share the road. I don't know what the bike laws are in your part of the world, but here a bicycle is considered to be a motor vehicle, and as such is required to be operated in accordance with local laws. We have such a huge problem here with cyclists operating with a holier than thou I'm entitled attitude that there is a growing sentiment growing among drivers that cyclists really don't have a right to be there since they abuse the privledge so frequently. Consequently, we also have a lot of car/ bicycle accidents where the car driver simply refuses to give up his right of way to an errant cyclist and takes him out instead. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Leica M9 For example, to dress several people for a television commercial, the wardrobe consultant might bring thirty different outfits to a review session -- all with pricetags hanging. Three will be chosen, the rest returned. But will those three be returned after the shoot or will they be kept by the wardrobe department? The stuff that is actually used is paid for. Billed to the job, so they go to the client. Sometimes the clients say to give them to the actors. Then what you are talking about is completely unrelated to what I wrote. The photographer in question would buy what was required for her shoot, use the product for profit, and then clean it up, box it up and return it all for a refund. This is significantly different from taking product oput of the store on spec to be reiviewed by a production crew and then returning, unused, the unsuitable product. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 5/21/2010 12:33 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Leica M9
And compared to the blatant dishonesty I witnessed, returning a
camera that stopped working and not volunteering that it stopped
working after getting splashed doesn't really rate.
So it's OK to beat your wife as long as the bruises aren't visible?
William Robb
I suppose that would all depend upon your wife.
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Re: K7 first thoughts
Same thoughts in this camp re the K10 and exposure and AF. The shutter noise is not a concern as I do most of my nature photos next to a railway shunting yard. Thus i am glad to hear the good review from you, and its making the K-7/D300s decision painfully hard, again. How do you find the exposure in flash, i have the 360. Dave On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Sorry, Phil. Yes, the K7 addresses almost everything from the K10D that bugged me. Specifically: 1. Unpredictable exposure (with or without flash) 2. Loud. That shutter. Wow. Loud. 3. Unpredictable autofocus (will it lock or not?). Too many missed shots as I had to flip to MF and focus it myself. This looks like that will be a thing of the past now. I'm already thinking that keeping it for the wife to use would almost be cruel. But that's what our budget allows for the moment and I'll get her a K-x somewhere down the line. I'll reiterate, though, that the image quality of the K10D did not leave me wanting. When you wrestle the exposure and focus to where you want 'em, the resulting images were/are top-notch. It was just the user experience handling the camera which would drive me batty way too often. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
On 5/21/2010 10:47 AM, William Robb wrote: I don't know what the bike laws are in your part of the world, but here a bicycle is considered to be a motor vehicle, and as such is required to be operated in accordance with local laws. Same here. We have such a huge problem here with cyclists operating with a holier than thou I'm entitled attitude that there is a growing sentiment growing among drivers that cyclists really don't have a right to be there since they abuse the privledge so frequently. Same here. Not to mention the Critical Massholes that do far more to piss people off than they do to promote cycling. The problem is that often times the safest thing to do on a bicycle is not to come to a complete stop, but to slow down enough to check for traffic, and come to a stop if necessary. When you're at a stop on a bike, you're dead in the water and have no way to get out of the way of anything. I hear that Idaho recognizes this and allows bicyclists to come to a safe rolling stop. Consequently, we also have a lot of car/ bicycle accidents where the car driver simply refuses to give up his right of way to an errant cyclist and takes him out instead. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not The problem is that often times the safest thing to do on a bicycle is not to come to a complete stop, but to slow down enough to check for traffic, and come to a stop if necessary. When you're at a stop on a bike, you're dead in the water and have no way to get out of the way of anything. I hear that Idaho recognizes this and allows bicyclists to come to a safe rolling stop. We don't recognize rolling stops as anything other than what they are, which is not stopping. It doesn't bother me unless it's my turn to go at a 4 way stop and I'm halfway through the intersection and a 10 speed zips by my grill with the driver doing a Brewer at me. Thats when I tend to floor it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:02 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm reading from what you are saying, in general terms, is that it is OK to try to decieve to one's advantage in business; and that it is wrong to get caught, since it is possible that at some point one might actually be in the situation that one is not in now. Or something.. I'm not trying to be argumentative either, just trying to clarify. William Robb Bill, No. That's not what I'm saying (not sure which of my posts you were referring to actually, but I know that was not my intent). The statement's been made that the owner of the non-working camera deceived and/or lied, and/or abdicated responsibility about the reason for the return. I don't see it that way, frankly. He made a simple statement that was truthful and was not asked Why? or What happened?. Nor do I think the customer service person should be asking those questions, because it's essentially accusing and blaming the customer up front, which is bad policy. (nor do I think the camera should have stopped working after one spill) He said he would have told what happened, if he was asked. The statement he made was honest and he said he would have answered additional questions honestly. Do you or anyone else you know go around telling on themselves the vast majority of the time about relatively minor things? We all make mistakes, and even do things that can in the very strictest sense be viewed as unethical. Do you stand around at work and chat with co-workers for extended periods occasionally instead of doing real work? Do you note that on your time card so that your employer does not have to pay you for those wasted minutes? Do I sometimes browse the web instead of doing real work? Do I keep track of it and likewise let my employer know? In both instances I'll surmise the answer is No. Does that make us fundamentally dishonest and untrustworthy individuals? I'd say no. Our employers also apparently do not think so, because they keep us knowing that we are fulfilling the #1 thing they hired us for. Getting the job done in a satifactory, if not superior manner. We can nitpick and look at people with a microscopic view or we can stand back and look at the bigger picture. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:38 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Christian Skofteland It's Bike to work Week in the US (Bike to work day was today). The Washington Post had an article about the conflicts between cars and bikes that was slanted against bikes. The writer kept going back to the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs argument but only briefly touched on the drivers that go out of their way to intimidated and assault bicyclists. I have seen plenty of the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs. It's a self correcting problem as far as I'm concerned. I've never witnessed motorists go out of their way to intimidate cyclists. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I have never seen it. I have been hit (brushed) by motorists twice when I was on a bicycle. Both times I was knocked down, but otherwise uninjured. In neither case, one a city bus, did the driver stop and inquire if I was OK. I don't even know if they were aware they had knocked me down. I have twice had cyclists crash into me in my automobile. Once from the rear, once from the passenger side. In both cases I checked that they were OK. In neither case did the cyclist inquire as to possible damage done to my vehicle ... the side hit DID require body work to repair. I try to be vigilant whenever cyclists are on the road. Given the disparity in road weights momentum, I don't ever want to hit one. But, it's not going to be my fault if it happens. It will be in spite of my having done everything I could to share the road. My experience, as a cyclist, is that cyclists are most of the problem in the city, but also the least dangerous portion. Unfortunately when somewhere between 50 and 70% of the cyclists commuting flagrantly ignore little things like traffic lights or traffic direction on one way streets, it's a little hard to justify cracking down on the 5-10% of drivers who drive in a fashion that's unsafe to cyclists. I've been hit by more cyclists than I have drivers (1 car hit, in a school zone, on a school day right before class almost 20 years ago, about 1 hit by another cyclist per year in the 6-7 years of commuting in Toronto, 1 total hit as a pedestrian by a cyclist riding illegally on the sidewalk through a construction awning). Thankfully no injuries yet. Most of my hits by other cyclists have come when I'm stopped for a light next to a car and they try and force themselves through too small a gap. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Everything I read indicates justification for that which you inherently know is wrong - doesn't make it right, just allows you to go with the flow so you can take advantage as the next guy. I'm saying this is part of what is wrong with our society - instead of teaching morals and values we end up teaching how to beat and manipulate the system. I think this is a slow downward spiral that leads to a bad ending. As everyone becomes savvy to what you know, then they all start screwing the system and then the retailers/manufacturers pad the products even more. It becomes a viscous cycle. The only loser is us - the retailer and manufacturer just pass it on. Society goes downhill and we all learn how to mistrust each other and pay more for stealing from each other. Much a long term no-win scenario. Go back to think about what you would want to teach your own children. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, May 21, 2010, 10:20:53 AM, you wrote: TC Bruce, TC The question in my mind became in this instance: TC Did spilling a single drink on the camera make the owner at fault for TC the subsequent failure of the object? My wife has a G9 and I have a TC G10, the predecessors to the G11. Knowing their build quality and TC that I use the G10 in wet and windy conditions when skiing, I would TC not think that spilling something on any modern camera should TC immediately make it inoperative. TC Back to the moral issues since that seems to be what we're talking TC about. I'll say what I think and am willing to take the brunt of it. TC Big picture, not just this incident - Does being honest *always* TC require telling everything you know? If the answer is yes, then I'm TC afraid one will find themselves at a severe disadvantage as there are TC certain types of people who will capitalize on that to their own TC advantage and to other's disadvantage. There is honesty but there's TC also discretion, both are admirable attributes and serve one well. TC If it were me with the G11 drink spill, I would have likely done the TC same as occurred. If asked, I would have told the truth that I spilled TC something on it. If not asked, I would figure they did not deem the TC reason important and were simply happy to give me a replacement. Had TC I been asked, I'd have made the claim that I certainly wouldn't expect TC a spill to cause the camera to immediately become non-functional. TC Let's see, will it work at SeaWorld when splashed? What about at TC Yosemite in the spray of Bridal Veil Falls, a rainy day? TC Do you know how many extended warranties are purchased to cover this TC sort of thing that are never used? Now there is a scam. The majority TC of them, never utilized, goes straight to the bottom line. A hugh TC profit center preying on people's insecurities. TC A little story. TC About eight years ago, through a totally stupid act of my own doing, I TC accidentally set off the fire suppression system in my hotel room (I TC could make this story very funny if I gave you all the details). TC Though buck naked at the time... No... TC I pulled on some pants, threw my laptop bag out into the hallway, and TC bounded down two flights of stairs to the office, just as those TC nauseating alarms and flashing lights started going off all over the TC hotel. TC I told them what I'd done that set the sprinklers off. TC Guess what? TC They did not know how to turn the fire supression system off. TC They did not have a procedure manual at the hotel. TC They called another hotel in the same chain to see if they knew how. TC Yes, but different system. TC Fire department calls to see if there's a fire. No there's a flood, TC so you needn't come. TC I go back to my room and the maintenance guy is standing in two inches TC of water with a shop vac trying to vacum up the water while it's still TC coming out of the ceiling. TC I immediately told him to get out of there before he gets himself electrocuted. TC Still trying to figure out the suppression system, I am running and TC relaying information from the office to the maintenance guy back at TC the control panel which is in the basement/pool level of the hotel. TC Still bare chest, pair of pants, bare feet. TC As I'm running past the pool I see water dripping out of the ceiling TC into the pool! From 3 floors above! Oh crap and a bunch of other TC things! TC The local Fire Department finally shows up sirens blaring. TC They go down and just as they're about to stem the flow of water, the TC system exhausts itself. Apparently, it's a finite pressurized supply. TC So all the water that would have been used for the entire hotel, went TC out into my room, over a period of about 30 minutes. Oh crap and a TC bunch of other things! TC The hotel graciously assigned me another room. I went and bought dry TC clothes and went into work. TC I lurked back in through the side door that evening around 8:00. TC Carpets were pulled up all over the place with big blowers running.
Re: Leica M9
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 02:13:15PM -0400, Tom C wrote: He said he would have told what happened, if he was asked. The statement he made was honest . . . I disagree. The statement was technically truthful, but the intent was to deceive. That's not honest (or honourable) in my book. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 first thoughts
On May 21, 2010, at 12:52, David J Brooks wrote: Same thoughts in this camp re the K10 and exposure and AF. The shutter noise is not a concern as I do most of my nature photos next to a railway shunting yard. Thus i am glad to hear the good review from you, and its making the K-7/D300s decision painfully hard, again. How do you find the exposure in flash, i have the 360. Generally much better. I have the 540. It has been overexposing a bit, but that's easy to dial down. I've been shooting an open house here at work with a wide variety of situations (small rooms, big rooms, open conference areas under a tent) and the worst I've had to do is dial +1 to -1.5 on the back of the flash occasionally. What the K7 does NOT do is anything like the K10's paranoid oh my gosh, I see something bright in the exposure (a mirror, a piece of glass) so I'll just quench the exposure entirely and make the whole screen black underexposure.In short, I'm getting a lot more usable photos with the flash. Happiness. PLUS it's actually locking focus - in a room dark enough to require flash. Could never count on the K10D to do that. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Fine Bruce... don't start out though believing the system itself is noble. You can read it as justification if you want to. I read it as an accident occurred and the camera should not have stopped working. Tom C. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Everything I read indicates justification for that which you inherently know is wrong - doesn't make it right, just allows you to go with the flow so you can take advantage as the next guy. I'm saying this is part of what is wrong with our society - instead of teaching morals and values we end up teaching how to beat and manipulate the system. I think this is a slow downward spiral that leads to a bad ending. As everyone becomes savvy to what you know, then they all start screwing the system and then the retailers/manufacturers pad the products even more. It becomes a viscous cycle. The only loser is us - the retailer and manufacturer just pass it on. Society goes downhill and we all learn how to mistrust each other and pay more for stealing from each other. Much a long term no-win scenario. Go back to think about what you would want to teach your own children. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, May 21, 2010, 10:20:53 AM, you wrote: TC Bruce, TC The question in my mind became in this instance: TC Did spilling a single drink on the camera make the owner at fault for TC the subsequent failure of the object? My wife has a G9 and I have a TC G10, the predecessors to the G11. Knowing their build quality and TC that I use the G10 in wet and windy conditions when skiing, I would TC not think that spilling something on any modern camera should TC immediately make it inoperative. TC Back to the moral issues since that seems to be what we're talking TC about. I'll say what I think and am willing to take the brunt of it. TC Big picture, not just this incident - Does being honest *always* TC require telling everything you know? If the answer is yes, then I'm TC afraid one will find themselves at a severe disadvantage as there are TC certain types of people who will capitalize on that to their own TC advantage and to other's disadvantage. There is honesty but there's TC also discretion, both are admirable attributes and serve one well. TC If it were me with the G11 drink spill, I would have likely done the TC same as occurred. If asked, I would have told the truth that I spilled TC something on it. If not asked, I would figure they did not deem the TC reason important and were simply happy to give me a replacement. Had TC I been asked, I'd have made the claim that I certainly wouldn't expect TC a spill to cause the camera to immediately become non-functional. TC Let's see, will it work at SeaWorld when splashed? What about at TC Yosemite in the spray of Bridal Veil Falls, a rainy day? TC Do you know how many extended warranties are purchased to cover this TC sort of thing that are never used? Now there is a scam. The majority TC of them, never utilized, goes straight to the bottom line. A hugh TC profit center preying on people's insecurities. TC A little story. TC About eight years ago, through a totally stupid act of my own doing, I TC accidentally set off the fire suppression system in my hotel room (I TC could make this story very funny if I gave you all the details). TC Though buck naked at the time... No... TC I pulled on some pants, threw my laptop bag out into the hallway, and TC bounded down two flights of stairs to the office, just as those TC nauseating alarms and flashing lights started going off all over the TC hotel. TC I told them what I'd done that set the sprinklers off. TC Guess what? TC They did not know how to turn the fire supression system off. TC They did not have a procedure manual at the hotel. TC They called another hotel in the same chain to see if they knew how. TC Yes, but different system. TC Fire department calls to see if there's a fire. No there's a flood, TC so you needn't come. TC I go back to my room and the maintenance guy is standing in two inches TC of water with a shop vac trying to vacum up the water while it's still TC coming out of the ceiling. TC I immediately told him to get out of there before he gets himself electrocuted. TC Still trying to figure out the suppression system, I am running and TC relaying information from the office to the maintenance guy back at TC the control panel which is in the basement/pool level of the hotel. TC Still bare chest, pair of pants, bare feet. TC As I'm running past the pool I see water dripping out of the ceiling TC into the pool! From 3 floors above! Oh crap and a bunch of other TC things! TC The local Fire Department finally shows up sirens blaring. TC They go down and just as they're about to stem the flow of water, the TC system exhausts itself. Apparently, it's a finite pressurized supply. TC So all the water that would have been
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Re: Leica M9
I don't believe the system is noble - it is just responding to the human element. If we don't teach and strive for nobility, what do we become? I would have a real hard time taking my 13 year old son with me to return something in those circumstances because I know darn well what I would be teaching him. I could justify up and down all the reasons why it was ok, but in the end, I am trying to justify something I know is inherently wrong. To say the product was inferior is only a problem of buying the wrong product. To say the product should have handled it, then fine, exercise the warranty. If you feel the manufacturer is screwing you, then don't buy from them anymore, but don't intentionally lower your morals and convictions. I realize we all (myself included) and not perfect and have many issues and faults, but we should at least strive to be our best. Condoning behavior which we know to be less than what it should be is worse than the behavior itself. -- Bruce Friday, May 21, 2010, 11:33:25 AM, you wrote: TC Fine Bruce... don't start out though believing the system itself is noble. TC You can read it as justification if you want to. I read it as an TC accident occurred and the camera should not have stopped working. TC Tom C. TC On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Bruce Dayton TC bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Everything I read indicates justification for that which you inherently know is wrong - doesn't make it right, just allows you to go with the flow so you can take advantage as the next guy. I'm saying this is part of what is wrong with our society - instead of teaching morals and values we end up teaching how to beat and manipulate the system. I think this is a slow downward spiral that leads to a bad ending. As everyone becomes savvy to what you know, then they all start screwing the system and then the retailers/manufacturers pad the products even more. It becomes a viscous cycle. The only loser is us - the retailer and manufacturer just pass it on. Society goes downhill and we all learn how to mistrust each other and pay more for stealing from each other. Much a long term no-win scenario. Go back to think about what you would want to teach your own children. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, May 21, 2010, 10:20:53 AM, you wrote: TC Bruce, TC The question in my mind became in this instance: TC Did spilling a single drink on the camera make the owner at fault for TC the subsequent failure of the object? My wife has a G9 and I have a TC G10, the predecessors to the G11. Knowing their build quality and TC that I use the G10 in wet and windy conditions when skiing, I would TC not think that spilling something on any modern camera should TC immediately make it inoperative. TC Back to the moral issues since that seems to be what we're talking TC about. I'll say what I think and am willing to take the brunt of it. TC Big picture, not just this incident - Does being honest *always* TC require telling everything you know? If the answer is yes, then I'm TC afraid one will find themselves at a severe disadvantage as there are TC certain types of people who will capitalize on that to their own TC advantage and to other's disadvantage. There is honesty but there's TC also discretion, both are admirable attributes and serve one well. TC If it were me with the G11 drink spill, I would have likely done the TC same as occurred. If asked, I would have told the truth that I spilled TC something on it. If not asked, I would figure they did not deem the TC reason important and were simply happy to give me a replacement. Had TC I been asked, I'd have made the claim that I certainly wouldn't expect TC a spill to cause the camera to immediately become non-functional. TC Let's see, will it work at SeaWorld when splashed? What about at TC Yosemite in the spray of Bridal Veil Falls, a rainy day? TC Do you know how many extended warranties are purchased to cover this TC sort of thing that are never used? Now there is a scam. The majority TC of them, never utilized, goes straight to the bottom line. A hugh TC profit center preying on people's insecurities. TC A little story. TC About eight years ago, through a totally stupid act of my own doing, I TC accidentally set off the fire suppression system in my hotel room (I TC could make this story very funny if I gave you all the details). TC Though buck naked at the time... No... TC I pulled on some pants, threw my laptop bag out into the hallway, and TC bounded down two flights of stairs to the office, just as those TC nauseating alarms and flashing lights started going off all over the TC hotel. TC I told them what I'd done that set the sprinklers off. TC Guess what? TC They did not know how to turn the fire supression system off. TC They did not have a procedure manual at the hotel. TC They called another hotel in the same chain to see if they knew how. TC Yes, but
Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned]
No, what it needs is PowerZoom electrical contacts. It should work fine on MZ/Z serie and as a consequence, would NOT work on a K1000 (neither OS nor aperture selection problem). On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2010 11:56, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Maybe my google-fu is lacking, but I can't find a prospective price. It's a lens that I'd like to have, like the Pentax FA 80-200 and DA 60-250, but I'm wondering if it's out of my price range. There's another press release here... http://www.photographybay.com/2010/05/15/sigma-120-400mm-f4-5-5-6-dg-os-hsm-for-the-sony-and-pentax-mounts/?awt_l=CE3oFawt_m=1dNF0ELIGf62xu http://tinyurl.com/2eyy5a7 It has direct links to price checks at Amazon. $US899.00. Also mentioned is, It is not possible to use AF and the stabilizer function (OS) when attaching to film SLR, Pentax ist* series and K100D DSLR cameras. So it apparently requires a SR capable camera, although how it interacts with the cameras' systems is anyones' guess. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 first thoughts
I'll confirm that, I do not use flash much, but K10D was excessively sensible to reflective surfaces when using the flash. The K-7 is not so. I tried a shot (integrated flash) straight into a mirror, the shot could be more or less usable. Same with K10D would have been overexposed by a couple tens EV ;) On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 21, 2010, at 12:52, David J Brooks wrote: Same thoughts in this camp re the K10 and exposure and AF. The shutter noise is not a concern as I do most of my nature photos next to a railway shunting yard. Thus i am glad to hear the good review from you, and its making the K-7/D300s decision painfully hard, again. How do you find the exposure in flash, i have the 360. Generally much better. I have the 540. It has been overexposing a bit, but that's easy to dial down. I've been shooting an open house here at work with a wide variety of situations (small rooms, big rooms, open conference areas under a tent) and the worst I've had to do is dial +1 to -1.5 on the back of the flash occasionally. What the K7 does NOT do is anything like the K10's paranoid oh my gosh, I see something bright in the exposure (a mirror, a piece of glass) so I'll just quench the exposure entirely and make the whole screen black underexposure. In short, I'm getting a lot more usable photos with the flash. Happiness. PLUS it's actually locking focus - in a room dark enough to require flash. Could never count on the K10D to do that. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: (He's the one with his back to the camera) Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Perhaps a Norwegian take on the Brazwellian Moistening Technique? :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yeller Feller
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: As already noted its an American Goldfinch, also called a Wild Canary - Carduelis tristis. The one you captured is a male. this site may be of help to you http://www.allaboutbirds.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=1189 American Goldfinch, eh? I guess they must have flown across Lake Ontario from Rochester, then... ;-) Thanks guys. Now I just have to get a decent photo of one! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yeller Feller
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:09 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: American Goldfinch, eh? I guess they must have flown across Lake Ontario from Rochester, then... On a related note, we have a bunch of your geese on the lawn. You can have them back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
I'm with you on this. The difference I have would be mainly this. If the product was defective and should have held up under said conditions, then I believe as a consumer it's fair to receive a brand new replacement camera immediately as opposed to sending it in for a warranty repair (the result of which is often getting someone else's item that was sent in for repair). I first learned that with HP scanners several years back. Sent it in for repair under warranty and discovered I'd received a refurbished model in return. Reading the warranty fine print, strictly legal, but not what one would expect. Tom On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: I don't believe the system is noble - it is just responding to the human element. If we don't teach and strive for nobility, what do we become? I would have a real hard time taking my 13 year old son with me to return something in those circumstances because I know darn well what I would be teaching him. I could justify up and down all the reasons why it was ok, but in the end, I am trying to justify something I know is inherently wrong. To say the product was inferior is only a problem of buying the wrong product. To say the product should have handled it, then fine, exercise the warranty. If you feel the manufacturer is screwing you, then don't buy from them anymore, but don't intentionally lower your morals and convictions. I realize we all (myself included) and not perfect and have many issues and faults, but we should at least strive to be our best. Condoning behavior which we know to be less than what it should be is worse than the behavior itself. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yeller Feller
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On a related note, we have a bunch of your geese on the lawn. You can have them back. As long as you keep the poop. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
