Re: OT: Tripod Info

2010-10-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:35 -0400, Ed Keeney ewkph...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm in the market for a simple/basic tripod (read: used, cheap).  It
 will probably only get used 1 time per year (unless I can get myself
 motivated).
 
 I found one at an online auction site but don't know much about the
 brand (seems like it might be an Australian company?).
 
 Does anyone know anything about this...
 
   Velbon CX 540 PH-656Q
 


I've got one of those.  It was my first tripod and these days it'd
stored permanently in my car for use in (photographic) emergencies.

I have to say, it's not great.  The mechanism that holds the quick
release plate in place became loose fairly quickly and the one of the
clips that tightens the leg extension in place broke early on (I fixed
it but the extension still pops out now and again).  If you hang a
weight off the tripod frame to increase its stability, it's probably
adequate for light loads.

I replaced mine with a Slik Pro 500DX, which is excellent for my
purposes, but I don't use heavy lenses.  The higher spec Velbons are
reportedly OK.

By the way, Velbon isn't Australian - here's the background to the
company:
http://www.velbon.co.uk/newvelbon/pages/home.html



Cheers

Brian

Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia

 Thanks!!!
 
 Ed
 http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto
 
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Re: Copie non autorisée

2010-10-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 18:05 +0200, Michel Carrère-Gée
michel.carrere-...@orange.fr wrote:
   Finally, he withdrew his page.
 

Good to hear, although it would have been nice if some arrangement could
have been made for for the translation to be retained but with an
acknowledgment to your original page.



Cheers

Brian

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RE: PDML Paris?

2010-10-08 Thread Bob W
 Don't forget to cap your trip with a visit to the eiffel tower.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/Texdance/ParisTexasRedHatEiffelTower#
 

even better than the real thing! I love the graduation photo.

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Re: pesos - a discovery

2010-10-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:50 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

 Thanks Boris. It's good to be hated:-).

Mark!
 

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

  Thanks for that heads-up, Paul!

I'll be sure to inquire about the turnaround time.  Looks like I'll end 
up pulling some fairly late nights in the not-too-distant future.  
Fortunately, I love the work.


-- Walt




If they're anything like the event organizers I've worked for, they'll want 
them in a few hours, because they'll be hoping to pass them along to 
newspapers. GM had photos of their Lake Orion press conference available online 
an hour after it ended. Small town aside, two or three days is not a good 
turnaround time. Shoot jpegs and turn them over as soon as possible.
Paul


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RE: OT: Tripod Info [Scanned][Spam score:8%]

2010-10-08 Thread John Whittingham
My first real tripod was the earlier equivalent of the Manfrotto 055 and I 
still have it but would love a carbon equivalent.

John


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2010/10/8 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:

 Is there anyone around here who is still using his first tripod? How
 many times have we all been told that there is no such thing as a cheap
 *and* decent tripod? Has it ever kept anyone of us from buying all this
 worthless crap?

My first real tripod (bought in the late 80's) was a Manfrotto 055 and
if I hadn't sold it after I purchased my Carbon tripods a few years
back (which was basically a clone of the 055 in dimensions) I guess I
would still be using it to this day.

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread Walter Gilbert
  Of the almost 5000 shutter actuations I've put on my K-x since I got 
it, I'd venture to guess that less than 100 have fired the flash.  
Admittedly, some of that has to do with battery life paranoia -- the 
same reason I've used the live view on it less than a total of 30 
seconds.  I just don't find it helpful enough to warrant the power 
usage.  And I love the way the K-x uses available light.  Focusing 
problems and occasional lens-build issues be damned.  It'll be tough for 
Nikon or Canon to lure me away when Pentax has such great low light 
performance for so much less dough.


Let 'em chuckle.  In the meantime, I'll be taking pictures of them 
fumbling to replace batteries in the dark.



On 10/7/2010 6:45 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

That's a very good point. I (personally) think that flashes turn just about 
everything into a snapshot. So while all of others are blasting away with 
flashes, I'm more likely to be shooting at f/2 without a flash. I only own two 
flashes (a Pentax ringflash, and a Leica flash for a Leica rangefinder) and 
don't use either.

Jeffery


On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:


  If they give me too much grief, I'll just look at their gear and ask them, So ... 
what's with the flash?  I've never had to use one of those with my K-x.  What's it 
like?

-- Walt

On 10/7/2010 4:38 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

One suggestion is not to get all bent out of shape when the Nikon and
Canon shooters giggle at your Pentax.

They will, i've been there.

However i can still get photos from my Pentax gear published so i just
smile at them.;-)

Dave

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com   wrote:

  Thanks, Jeffery.

I shouldn't have too much trouble blending in, as I don't plan on packing a
giant piece of glass with me.  Most likely, I'll take my 70-300 f/4-5.6, my
18-55 f/3.5-5.6 and my 2X TC as a just in case for anything else that
might be going on that I don't have the reach for.

-- Walt

On 10/7/2010 11:38 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

My opinion is to make sure photos don't look like they were posed (as you
see on the society page), and to be unobtrusive when possible. Blend in
without drawing attention to yourself when possible.

Jeffery


On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:


Hi all,

I've just received my first press pass -- as a freelance photographer for
a couple of upcoming campaign events in a US Senate election.  Having never
done this sort of shooting before, I assume I'll get a pretty decent vantage
point for the stump speeches and maybe some access behind the scenes.  Given
the collective years of experience on the list, I thought I'd ask if anyone
has any tips on the best way to capture dramatic, compelling images at
events of this nature -- what to look for, technical and compositional
advice, etc.

Also, any advice on the best mental approach to take in shooting events
of this nature in terms of establishing oneself as a credible photographer
would be greatly appreciated.  As a matter of background, I was granted this
press pass by a person who had seen my work on Facebook and Flickr and
really enjoyed it -- or at least she told me as much.

So, I have a bit of a dilemma.  Should I approach this as an ostensibly
hard-nosed photojournalist trying to capture the reality of the campaign
trail in a consequential election?  Or, given the very early stage of my
development as a photographer, should I approach it as a potential
connection for future job opportunities by taking shots geared toward making
the subject look as good as I can?

As a matter of pure, career-minded practicality with an eye toward
getting the proverbial foot in the door to future work as a photographer,
I'd appreciate any guidance anyone can offer me.

-- Walt



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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread paul stenquist

On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

  Of the almost 5000 shutter actuations I've put on my K-x since I got it, I'd 
 venture to guess that less than 100 have fired the flash.  Admittedly, some 
 of that has to do with battery life paranoia -- the same reason I've used the 
 live view on it less than a total of 30 seconds.  I just don't find it 
 helpful enough to warrant the power usage.  And I love the way the K-x uses 
 available light.  Focusing problems and occasional lens-build issues be 
 damned.  It'll be tough for Nikon or Canon to lure me away when Pentax has 
 such great low light performance for so much less dough.
 
 Let 'em chuckle.  In the meantime, I'll be taking pictures of them fumbling 
 to replace batteries in the dark.
 
 
Any pro photographers will be using cameras with multiple lithium batteries 
that provide well over 1000 exposures. No one will be fumbling with batteires. 
And no one will be using a pop up flash. Probably all will have the dedicated 
Nikon or Canon flash with a dome style diffuser attached. But they will shoot 
their long lens stuff with available light if it's reasonably bright. The full 
frame Nikon has at least as good low light performance as the Kx, with a lot 
more resolution and superb autofocus.


 On 10/7/2010 6:45 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 That's a very good point. I (personally) think that flashes turn just about 
 everything into a snapshot. So while all of others are blasting away with 
 flashes, I'm more likely to be shooting at f/2 without a flash. I only own 
 two flashes (a Pentax ringflash, and a Leica flash for a Leica rangefinder) 
 and don't use either.
 
 Jeffery
 
 
 On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 
  If they give me too much grief, I'll just look at their gear and ask them, 
 So ... what's with the flash?  I've never had to use one of those with my 
 K-x.  What's it like?
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 10/7/2010 4:38 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 One suggestion is not to get all bent out of shape when the Nikon and
 Canon shooters giggle at your Pentax.
 
 They will, i've been there.
 
 However i can still get photos from my Pentax gear published so i just
 smile at them.;-)
 
 Dave
 
 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com   wrote:
  Thanks, Jeffery.
 
 I shouldn't have too much trouble blending in, as I don't plan on packing 
 a
 giant piece of glass with me.  Most likely, I'll take my 70-300 f/4-5.6, 
 my
 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 and my 2X TC as a just in case for anything else that
 might be going on that I don't have the reach for.
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 10/7/2010 11:38 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 My opinion is to make sure photos don't look like they were posed (as you
 see on the society page), and to be unobtrusive when possible. Blend in
 without drawing attention to yourself when possible.
 
 Jeffery
 
 
 On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've just received my first press pass -- as a freelance photographer 
 for
 a couple of upcoming campaign events in a US Senate election.  Having 
 never
 done this sort of shooting before, I assume I'll get a pretty decent 
 vantage
 point for the stump speeches and maybe some access behind the scenes.  
 Given
 the collective years of experience on the list, I thought I'd ask if 
 anyone
 has any tips on the best way to capture dramatic, compelling images at
 events of this nature -- what to look for, technical and compositional
 advice, etc.
 
 Also, any advice on the best mental approach to take in shooting events
 of this nature in terms of establishing oneself as a credible 
 photographer
 would be greatly appreciated.  As a matter of background, I was granted 
 this
 press pass by a person who had seen my work on Facebook and Flickr and
 really enjoyed it -- or at least she told me as much.
 
 So, I have a bit of a dilemma.  Should I approach this as an ostensibly
 hard-nosed photojournalist trying to capture the reality of the 
 campaign
 trail in a consequential election?  Or, given the very early stage of my
 development as a photographer, should I approach it as a potential
 connection for future job opportunities by taking shots geared toward 
 making
 the subject look as good as I can?
 
 As a matter of pure, career-minded practicality with an eye toward
 getting the proverbial foot in the door to future work as a 
 photographer,
 I'd appreciate any guidance anyone can offer me.
 
 -- Walt
 
 
 
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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread paul stenquist

On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:21 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

 
 On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 
 Of the almost 5000 shutter actuations I've put on my K-x since I got it, I'd 
 venture to guess that less than 100 have fired the flash.  Admittedly, some 
 of that has to do with battery life paranoia -- the same reason I've used 
 the live view on it less than a total of 30 seconds.  I just don't find it 
 helpful enough to warrant the power usage.  And I love the way the K-x uses 
 available light.  Focusing problems and occasional lens-build issues be 
 damned.  It'll be tough for Nikon or Canon to lure me away when Pentax has 
 such great low light performance for so much less dough.
 
 Let 'em chuckle.  In the meantime, I'll be taking pictures of them fumbling 
 to replace batteries in the dark.
 
 
 Any pro photographers will be using cameras with multiple lithium batteries 
 that provide well over 1000 exposures. No one will be fumbling with 
 batteires. And no one will be using a pop up flash. Probably all will have 
 the dedicated Nikon or Canon flash with a dome style diffuser attached. But 
 they will shoot their long lens stuff with available light if it's reasonably 
 bright. The full frame Nikon has at least as good low light performance as 
 the Kx, with a lot more resolution and superb autofocus.
 
 
Excuse my replying to myself, but I should point out that flashes aren't used 
by PJs just to compensate for a lack of light. They're a lighting tool. If you 
have to shoot an outdoor speaker, chances are he or she will be backlit or 
perhaps even crosslit. That's done so the speaker doesn't squint. In that case, 
flash is used for fill. When those PJs shoot interview subjects in close, they 
use flash, in part, because others are using flash. Each wants to make sure 
that for their shot, the lion's share of the light will be coming from close to 
camera, rather than from 150 degrees to the rear. If you're shooting at ISO 
3200 with no flash and ten other photogs are shooting at ISO 400 with flash, 
many of your shots will be grossly overexposed with light from odd angles. But 
you should be able to sneak in a few frames between flashes. 

Paul
 On 10/7/2010 6:45 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 That's a very good point. I (personally) think that flashes turn just about 
 everything into a snapshot. So while all of others are blasting away with 
 flashes, I'm more likely to be shooting at f/2 without a flash. I only own 
 two flashes (a Pentax ringflash, and a Leica flash for a Leica rangefinder) 
 and don't use either.
 
 Jeffery
 
 
 On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 
 If they give me too much grief, I'll just look at their gear and ask them, 
 So ... what's with the flash?  I've never had to use one of those with my 
 K-x.  What's it like?
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 10/7/2010 4:38 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 One suggestion is not to get all bent out of shape when the Nikon and
 Canon shooters giggle at your Pentax.
 
 They will, i've been there.
 
 However i can still get photos from my Pentax gear published so i just
 smile at them.;-)
 
 Dave
 
 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com   
 wrote:
 Thanks, Jeffery.
 
 I shouldn't have too much trouble blending in, as I don't plan on 
 packing a
 giant piece of glass with me.  Most likely, I'll take my 70-300 f/4-5.6, 
 my
 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 and my 2X TC as a just in case for anything else that
 might be going on that I don't have the reach for.
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 10/7/2010 11:38 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 My opinion is to make sure photos don't look like they were posed (as 
 you
 see on the society page), and to be unobtrusive when possible. Blend in
 without drawing attention to yourself when possible.
 
 Jeffery
 
 
 On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've just received my first press pass -- as a freelance photographer 
 for
 a couple of upcoming campaign events in a US Senate election.  Having 
 never
 done this sort of shooting before, I assume I'll get a pretty decent 
 vantage
 point for the stump speeches and maybe some access behind the scenes.  
 Given
 the collective years of experience on the list, I thought I'd ask if 
 anyone
 has any tips on the best way to capture dramatic, compelling images at
 events of this nature -- what to look for, technical and compositional
 advice, etc.
 
 Also, any advice on the best mental approach to take in shooting events
 of this nature in terms of establishing oneself as a credible 
 photographer
 would be greatly appreciated.  As a matter of background, I was 
 granted this
 press pass by a person who had seen my work on Facebook and Flickr and
 really enjoyed it -- or at least she told me as much.
 
 So, I have a bit of a dilemma.  Should I approach this as an ostensibly
 hard-nosed photojournalist trying to capture the reality of the 
 campaign
 trail in a consequential election?  Or, given the very early stage of 
 my
 development 

PESO: Clarinda Farm

2010-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
Just returned from a 10 day pleasure/business drive of some 4000+ miles.
Drove through Colorado with the idea of recording fall in a state which 
inspired America the Beautiful. Time, as it happened, didn't allow me to keep 
my schedule, so..maybe next fall.
While checking out the countryside in the state of Iowa, came upon this scene 
on a gravel back road.  
Shot to the East requiring I wait 'til PM to get some light on the near side. 
Did a little dodging on the front.
Had to crop a nicely formed tree from the right side to move the structures and 
weight to the right.
Maybe I saved it somewhat.

Jack

All comments/ thoughts welcomed

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread David Parsons
It is very rare to catch someone else's flash during a shot, even in a
pit situation.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:51 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:21 AM, paul stenquist wrote:


 On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 Of the almost 5000 shutter actuations I've put on my K-x since I got it, 
 I'd venture to guess that less than 100 have fired the flash.  Admittedly, 
 some of that has to do with battery life paranoia -- the same reason I've 
 used the live view on it less than a total of 30 seconds.  I just don't 
 find it helpful enough to warrant the power usage.  And I love the way the 
 K-x uses available light.  Focusing problems and occasional lens-build 
 issues be damned.  It'll be tough for Nikon or Canon to lure me away when 
 Pentax has such great low light performance for so much less dough.

 Let 'em chuckle.  In the meantime, I'll be taking pictures of them fumbling 
 to replace batteries in the dark.


 Any pro photographers will be using cameras with multiple lithium batteries 
 that provide well over 1000 exposures. No one will be fumbling with 
 batteires. And no one will be using a pop up flash. Probably all will have 
 the dedicated Nikon or Canon flash with a dome style diffuser attached. But 
 they will shoot their long lens stuff with available light if it's 
 reasonably bright. The full frame Nikon has at least as good low light 
 performance as the Kx, with a lot more resolution and superb autofocus.


 Excuse my replying to myself, but I should point out that flashes aren't used 
 by PJs just to compensate for a lack of light. They're a lighting tool. If 
 you have to shoot an outdoor speaker, chances are he or she will be backlit 
 or perhaps even crosslit. That's done so the speaker doesn't squint. In that 
 case, flash is used for fill. When those PJs shoot interview subjects in 
 close, they use flash, in part, because others are using flash. Each wants to 
 make sure that for their shot, the lion's share of the light will be coming 
 from close to camera, rather than from 150 degrees to the rear. If you're 
 shooting at ISO 3200 with no flash and ten other photogs are shooting at ISO 
 400 with flash, many of your shots will be grossly overexposed with light 
 from odd angles. But you should be able to sneak in a few frames between 
 flashes.

 Paul
 On 10/7/2010 6:45 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 That's a very good point. I (personally) think that flashes turn just 
 about everything into a snapshot. So while all of others are blasting away 
 with flashes, I'm more likely to be shooting at f/2 without a flash. I 
 only own two flashes (a Pentax ringflash, and a Leica flash for a Leica 
 rangefinder) and don't use either.

 Jeffery


 On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 If they give me too much grief, I'll just look at their gear and ask 
 them, So ... what's with the flash?  I've never had to use one of those 
 with my K-x.  What's it like?

 -- Walt

 On 10/7/2010 4:38 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 One suggestion is not to get all bent out of shape when the Nikon and
 Canon shooters giggle at your Pentax.

 They will, i've been there.

 However i can still get photos from my Pentax gear published so i just
 smile at them.;-)

 Dave

 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com   
 wrote:
 Thanks, Jeffery.

 I shouldn't have too much trouble blending in, as I don't plan on 
 packing a
 giant piece of glass with me.  Most likely, I'll take my 70-300 
 f/4-5.6, my
 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 and my 2X TC as a just in case for anything else that
 might be going on that I don't have the reach for.

 -- Walt

 On 10/7/2010 11:38 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
 My opinion is to make sure photos don't look like they were posed (as 
 you
 see on the society page), and to be unobtrusive when possible. Blend in
 without drawing attention to yourself when possible.

 Jeffery


 On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've just received my first press pass -- as a freelance photographer 
 for
 a couple of upcoming campaign events in a US Senate election.  Having 
 never
 done this sort of shooting before, I assume I'll get a pretty decent 
 vantage
 point for the stump speeches and maybe some access behind the scenes. 
  Given
 the collective years of experience on the list, I thought I'd ask if 
 anyone
 has any tips on the best way to capture dramatic, compelling images at
 events of this nature -- what to look for, technical and compositional
 advice, etc.

 Also, any advice on the best mental approach to take in shooting 
 events
 of this nature in terms of establishing oneself as a credible 
 photographer
 would be greatly appreciated.  As a matter of background, I was 
 granted this
 press pass by a person who had seen my work on Facebook and Flickr and
 really enjoyed it -- or at least she told me as much.

 So, I have a bit of a dilemma.  Should I approach this as an 
 ostensibly
 

Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 8, 2010, at 8:20, David Parsons wrote:

 It is very rare to catch someone else's flash during a shot, even in a
 pit situation.
 

Not in my experience.  For me it's somewhere between rare and common but it 
happens quite a bit.

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread P N Stenquist


On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:


On Oct 8, 2010, at 8:20, David Parsons wrote:

It is very rare to catch someone else's flash during a shot, even  
in a

pit situation.



Not in my experience.  For me it's somewhere between rare and  
common but it happens quite a bit.


With fifteen to twenty photographers all grouped tightly around the  
subject and shooting  as fast as their flashes will recycle, it  
happens about nine frames out of ten. Been there, done that.

Paul



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Re: OT: Tripod Info

2010-10-08 Thread Ed Keeney
Thanks everyone for the responses.  Based on what I've heard, I'm
passing and will continue to look around for something a little
better/sturdier.

Ken - didn't think about KEH, will take a look.  I say once per year,
but if I had one, maybe I'd use it more often.

Thanks again!!
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OT GESO - Jonneine Zapata Cast The Demons Out Tour w. The Holy Soul + Loene Carmen (and my Voigtlander 75mm/1.8 initiation)

2010-10-08 Thread Derby Chang


That was memorable.

It started out being a pleasant night. My friends playing support, all 
is right with the world. But Loene sensed there was something odd 
happening with the headliner. And there was


The band came on and asked everyone to be really quiet, or they wouldn't 
hear. The lead singer, Jonneine, having come all the way from Silverlake 
CA, had lost her voice. Really lost it. She could barely whisper. But 
bravely, she said they would play the whole set. And a beautiful 
instrumental set it was, with Jonneine doing some mesmerising zen 
singing up front.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_10/10_10_jonneine/index.htm

As much as I would have loved to hear her voice (which is 
extraordinarily seductive), the performance piece as it turned out was 
even more powerful, because we were all filling in the vocal line. And 
even better, with no microphone in the way, it was a grand way to test 
the new Voigtlander 75mm/1.8. Stephen Gandy, for a little while, said it 
was designed to be soft wide open. He has since edited that out of his 
website. It's sharp enough for me at 1.8


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Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Derby Chang


Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed

http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-images-in-low-light/

Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder

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PESO: Last Rose of Summer

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Robinson
Spotted after jumping into my brother's car for a ride to work.  Had to make 
him wait as I jumped out and popped the Tamron 90mm f/2.5 onto the K7.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP5594.jpg


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PESO: Shootin' the breeze

2010-10-08 Thread CheekyGeek
Shooting the breeze : An (American?) idiom meaning chatting

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5062194333_0f7449698a_b.jpg

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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 01:44:43AM +1100, Derby Chang wrote:

 Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed

 http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-images-in-low-light/

 Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder


This is a classic example of why I really hate the ubiquity of video.

In order to find out whether this might be an interesting photo tip,
you have to sit through four minutes of video before you get to the
first really useful demonstration of what is being discussed.
(and that four minutes is just the first half of the video clip).

A single still image would let you decide whether or not you thought
this was worth investigating in four *seconds* (or less), not four
minutes.


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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:42 AM, John Francis wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 01:44:43AM +1100, Derby Chang wrote:
 
 Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed
 
 http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-images-in-low-light/
 
 Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder
 
 
 This is a classic example of why I really hate the ubiquity of video.
 
 In order to find out whether this might be an interesting photo tip,
 you have to sit through four minutes of video before you get to the
 first really useful demonstration of what is being discussed.
 (and that four minutes is just the first half of the video clip).
 
 A single still image would let you decide whether or not you thought
 this was worth investigating in four *seconds* (or less), not four
 minutes.

I paused it, let it load and just skipped forward to the interesting bits.

 
 
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Re: OT GESO - Jonneine Zapata Cast The Demons Out Tour w. The Holy Soul + Loene Carmen (and my Voigtlander 75mm/1.8 initiation)

2010-10-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

 
 That was memorable.
 
 It started out being a pleasant night. My friends playing support, all is 
 right with the world. But Loene sensed there was something odd happening with 
 the headliner. And there was
 
 The band came on and asked everyone to be really quiet, or they wouldn't 
 hear. The lead singer, Jonneine, having come all the way from Silverlake CA, 
 had lost her voice. Really lost it. She could barely whisper. But bravely, 
 she said they would play the whole set. And a beautiful instrumental set it 
 was, with Jonneine doing some mesmerising zen singing up front.
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_10/10_10_jonneine/index.htm

You got some great stuff there.

 
 As much as I would have loved to hear her voice (which is extraordinarily 
 seductive), the performance piece as it turned out was even more powerful, 
 because we were all filling in the vocal line.

Sounds like a very cool experience. 

 And even better, with no microphone in the way, it was a grand way to test 
 the new Voigtlander 75mm/1.8. Stephen Gandy, for a little while, said it was 
 designed to be soft wide open. He has since edited that out of his website. 
 It's sharp enough for me at 1.8

How do you like it compared with the 77/1.8?

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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 8, 2010, at 11:42, John Francis wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 01:44:43AM +1100, Derby Chang wrote:
 
 Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed
 
 http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-images-in-low-light/
 
 Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder
 
 
 This is a classic example of why I really hate the ubiquity of video.
 
 In order to find out whether this might be an interesting photo tip,
 you have to sit through four minutes of video before you get to the
 first really useful demonstration of what is being discussed.
 (and that four minutes is just the first half of the video clip).
 

I just kept clicking on the next minute mark (YouTube lets you jump to any 
arbitrary point without having to wait for the whole thing to buffer) over and 
over until I got to the part where you actually see what he's demonstrating.  
Took maybe 15 seconds to see the point and then I closed the tab...

Not sure it really required a 7.5-minute video to make that point, though!

 -Charles

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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:02, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 I paused it, let it load and just skipped forward to the interesting bits.
 

Again, as I said in my last reply - you don't have to wait for it all to load.

If you get a YouTube link from someone and they say it gets really interesting 
at 25 minutes - just click on the 25-minute mark and it will start playing 
from there skipping the loading/buffering of the first 25 minutes.

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Re: PESO: Clarinda Farm

2010-10-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 8, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Just returned from a 10 day pleasure/business drive of some 4000+ miles.
 Drove through Colorado with the idea of recording fall in a state which 
 inspired America the Beautiful. Time, as it happened, didn't allow me to 
 keep my schedule, so..maybe next fall.
 While checking out the countryside in the state of Iowa, came upon this scene 
 on a gravel back road.  
 Shot to the East requiring I wait 'til PM to get some light on the near side. 
 Did a little dodging on the front.
 Had to crop a nicely formed tree from the right side to move the structures 
 and weight to the right.
 Maybe I saved it somewhat.
 
 Jack
 
 All comments/ thoughts welcomed
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=528

It's a pleasant shot, but doesn't entirely grab me.
I'd be curious to see what it looked like if you cropped out most of the road 
rather than the tree, butting the farm house almost to the left edge.

 
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Re: PESO: Shootin' the breeze

2010-10-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:19 AM, CheekyGeek wrote:

 Shooting the breeze : An (American?) idiom meaning chatting
 
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5062194333_0f7449698a_b.jpg

That's such an odd composition, I really like the way it hints at a story.

That also looks like some interesting farm equipment, darn near old enough to 
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FS Friday: Sigma 30mm f/1.4, Pentax SMC-FA 50mm f/1.7, K100D kit with 18-55 zoom

2010-10-08 Thread Joe Wilensky
For sale:

Pentax K100D kit with original SMC-DA 18-55mm lens. All hoods, caps, straps, 
covers included. Both in EX condition, with some discoloration of the rubber 
handgrip on the camera body. Original boxes/cables/manual included (plus 
original software if desired). $220.

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC lens for Pentax. EX+ condition; includes caps, hood and 
original Sigma zippered case. $275.

Pentax SMC-FA 50mm f/1.7 lens, EX condition, with front and rear caps. $220.


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Re: PESO: Last Rose of Summer

2010-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
Like this! Focus well chosen.

Jack

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 Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 8:28 AM
 Spotted after jumping into my
 brother's car for a ride to work.  Had to make him wait
 as I jumped out and popped the Tamron 90mm f/2.5 onto the
 K7.
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP5594.jpg
 
 
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Re: PESO: Shootin' the breeze

2010-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
Very well seen, Darren! Composition deftly chosen.

Jack

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 Shooting the breeze : An
 (American?) idiom meaning chatting
 
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5062194333_0f7449698a_b.jpg
 
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Plastic front filter threads?

2010-10-08 Thread J.C. O'Connell
What year ( or lens series )did Pentax go to PLASTIC front
filter threads? Needless to say I don't like 'em.

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Re: PESO: Clarinda Farm

2010-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
Down load it and try it, Larry. The tire track path was one of the limited 
elements I wanted to include. I moved the buildings to the right to suit my 
comp choice.
Not a grabber for me either.

Thanks for commenting.

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Clarinda Farm
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 Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 10:19 AM
 
 On Oct 8, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Just returned from a 10 day pleasure/business drive of
 some 4000+ miles.
  Drove through Colorado with the idea of recording fall
 in a state which inspired America the Beautiful. Time, as
 it happened, didn't allow me to keep my schedule, so..maybe
 next fall.
  While checking out the countryside in the state of
 Iowa, came upon this scene on a gravel back road.  
  Shot to the East requiring I wait 'til PM to get some
 light on the near side. Did a little dodging on the front.
  Had to crop a nicely formed tree from the right side
 to move the structures and weight to the right.
  Maybe I saved it somewhat.
  
  Jack
  
  All comments/ thoughts welcomed
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=528
 
 It's a pleasant shot, but doesn't entirely grab me.
 I'd be curious to see what it looked like if you cropped
 out most of the road rather than the tree, butting the farm
 house almost to the left edge.
 
  
  K20, DA 16...@34mm, 1/750, f/11, ISO 400, Manfrotto
 tripod/ball head
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Plastic front filter threads?

2010-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
Me too! I had an A 28~80 with them and lost a couple filters due to my not 
being fiddly enough to be certain they were on.

Jack

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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
On a different note, I tried this shoulder rest grip.  Even though
I'm right -eyed, my left eye is better (according to my optometrist)
and my preference is not strong.  It feels very steady and i'm going
to try this. Thanks Derby.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:02, Larry Colen wrote:

 I paused it, let it load and just skipped forward to the interesting bits.


 Again, as I said in my last reply - you don't have to wait for it all to load.

 If you get a YouTube link from someone and they say it gets really 
 interesting at 25 minutes - just click on the 25-minute mark and it will 
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RE: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Bob W
 
 Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed
 
 http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-
 images-in-low-light/
 
 Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder
 

to hell with that - this is the most interesting thing on the page:
http://store.petapixel.com/products/Leica-Look%252dAlike-Skin-for-the-iPhon
e-4.html

iLeica

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Tires On

2010-10-08 Thread Jerry in Arizona
and it was a GOOD thing too.  One of the tires was worn to the belt and the 
belt 
had slipped.  Would not have wanted to be half way to Hannigan Meadow and have 
that puppy crap out.  Actually, both were in poor shape.  Lucky us!  Even 
better, the guy didn't even charge me for it.  He didn't say why, just that I 
didn't owe him anything.  Lucky me!

    xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread eckinator
2010/10/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 to hell with that - this is the most interesting thing on the page:
 http://store.petapixel.com/products/Leica-Look%252dAlike-Skin-for-the-iPhon
 e-4.html

 iLeica

iPhoned them right away with an order =)

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Re: Tires On

2010-10-08 Thread eckinator
huh? you mean you got free tires? good for you, son =)

2010/10/8 Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com:
 and it was a GOOD thing too.  One of the tires was worn to the belt and the 
 belt
 had slipped.  Would not have wanted to be half way to Hannigan Meadow and have
 that puppy crap out.  Actually, both were in poor shape.  Lucky us!  Even
 better, the guy didn't even charge me for it.  He didn't say why, just that I
 didn't owe him anything.  Lucky me!

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RE: Tires On

2010-10-08 Thread Jerry in Arizona
Sorry, wrong addressee

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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I saw that.  What a great idea.  Frank should buy one for his friend
the street photographer.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:07 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/10/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 to hell with that - this is the most interesting thing on the page:
 http://store.petapixel.com/products/Leica-Look%252dAlike-Skin-for-the-iPhon
 e-4.html

 iLeica

 iPhoned them right away with an order =)

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RE: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Derby Chang

Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed

http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-images-in-low-light/

Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder


Left eye shooting doesn't work that well for me because I try to keep 
both eyes open so I can continue to see the target through my off eye 
while the mirror is up. With my left eye to the viewfinder, my hand on 
the shutter release blocks the view from my right eye.


That said, I naturally use some variation of what he's showing because 
it's similar to how I was taught to fire a rifle.


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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:42 AM, John Francis wrote:


 On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 01:44:43AM +1100, Derby Chang wrote:


 Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed

 
http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-images-in-low-light/

 Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder



 This is a classic example of why I really hate the ubiquity of video.

 In order to find out whether this might be an interesting photo tip,
 you have to sit through four minutes of video before you get to the
 first really useful demonstration of what is being discussed.
 (and that four minutes is just the first half of the video clip).

 A single still image would let you decide whether or not you thought
 this was worth investigating in four *seconds* (or less), not four
 minutes.

I paused it, let it load and just skipped forward to the interesting bits.





Yeah, but that only works if you know that there *ARE* interesting bits.

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Re: PESO: Last Rose of Summer

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:28, Jack Davis wrote:

 Like this! Focus well chosen.
 

I got lucky.  I was crouched down on the balls of both feet.  Completely 
unstable!

 Jack
 
 --- On Fri, 10/8/10, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 
 From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com
 Subject: PESO: Last Rose of Summer
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 8:28 AM
 Spotted after jumping into my
 brother's car for a ride to work.  Had to make him wait
 as I jumped out and popped the Tamron 90mm f/2.5 onto the
 K7.
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP5594.jpg
 
 
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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson

On Oct 8, 2010, at 11:42, John Francis wrote:


 On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 01:44:43AM +1100, Derby Chang wrote:


 Then again, maybe I'm right-eyed

 
http://www.petapixel.com/2010/10/06/use-da-grip-for-capturing-sharper-images-in-low-light/

 Wouldn't really work with a rangefinder



 This is a classic example of why I really hate the ubiquity of video.

 In order to find out whether this might be an interesting photo tip,
 you have to sit through four minutes of video before you get to the
 first really useful demonstration of what is being discussed.
 (and that four minutes is just the first half of the video clip).


I just kept clicking on the next minute mark (YouTube lets you jump to any 
arbitrary point without having to wait for the whole thing to buffer) over and 
over until I got to the part where you actually see what he's demonstrating.  
Took maybe 15 seconds to see the point and then I closed the tab...

Not sure it really required a 7.5-minute video to make that point, though!



And what's the thing with the jump cut around not showing the cat? If 
you ain't going to show the cat edit out the whole shtick.



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Re: OT (well sort of) Map of Online Communities

2010-10-08 Thread mike wilson

Rob Studdert wrote:


http://xkcd.com/802/?ref=nf


Good resource.  Here's the wiring diagram for the K5.
http://xkcd.com/730/

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Re: PDML Paris?

2010-10-08 Thread Rick Womer
I'm sure Paris, Texas is very similar to Paris, France.  For example, people 
live in both of them.  And... ummm uhhh... well, nevermind.

Rick

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 Subject: Re: PDML Paris?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 11:53 PM
 Don't forget to cap your trip with a
 visit to the
 eiffel tower. 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/Texdance/ParisTexasRedHatEiffelTower#
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:48:28 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
 
 Hi team,
 
 I've tacked a couple of days onto a business trip to
 Paris next month to be a tourist and do some shooting.
 
 Is anyone free Tues 9 Nov or Wed 10 Nov?  Contact
 me on or off list.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
       
 
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WTB Friday Adaptall II lens

2010-10-08 Thread mike wilson
I noticed that the mount (not the adaptor) on my 300/2.8 appears to have 
taken a knock (along with the body of my AF1.7...needless to say, nobody 
is admitting liability) and I need to replace it.  If anyone has a 
raddled, leprous or otherwise incapacitated lens with an undamaged mount 
that I could assault, I would be pleased to recompense you.  This 
request is probably limited to the UK for reasons of postage cost.


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Question for Pentax Cell Phone Discussion List

2010-10-08 Thread jtainter
Sorry for this post, but I figure someone here will know the answer.

A year ago I bought a cheap Nokia cell phone in Sweden. In a few days I will be 
leaving for Italy and Spain, so I will need to buy two new SIM cards for the 
phone. My question is: When I put a new SIM card in the phone, does the phone 
acquire a new number?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Joe



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Re: Question for Pentax Cell Phone Discussion List

2010-10-08 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:12:26PM -0600, jtainter wrote:
 Sorry for this post, but I figure someone here will know the answer.
 
 A year ago I bought a cheap Nokia cell phone in Sweden. In a few days I will 
 be leaving for Italy and Spain, so I will need to buy two new SIM cards for 
 the phone. My question is: When I put a new SIM card in the phone, does the 
 phone acquire a new number?

Yes.

The number will be one from the pool allocated to the service provider from 
whom you buy the SIM card.


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Re: Question for Pentax Cell Phone Discussion List

2010-10-08 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 04:21:29PM -0400, John Francis wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:12:26PM -0600, jtainter wrote:
  Sorry for this post, but I figure someone here will know the answer.
  
  A year ago I bought a cheap Nokia cell phone in Sweden. In a few days I 
  will be leaving for Italy and Spain, so I will need to buy two new SIM 
  cards for the phone. My question is: When I put a new SIM card in the 
  phone, does the phone acquire a new number?
 
 Yes.
 
 The number will be one from the pool allocated to the service provider from 
 whom you buy the SIM card.

If you will be using it in Italy and Spain, you probably don't need two new 
cards;
a single SIM card (and phone number) would work in both locations.


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Peso Champion

2010-10-08 Thread Larry Colen
I didn't go out to take photos, I went out to grab a bite to eat, but I saw 
this champion, and since I always have my camera with me, I snapped a few.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5063343938/in/set-7215762511516/
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Re: Question for Pentax Cell Phone Discussion List

2010-10-08 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 04:23:26PM -0400, John Francis wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 04:21:29PM -0400, John Francis wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:12:26PM -0600, jtainter wrote:
   Sorry for this post, but I figure someone here will know the answer.
   
   A year ago I bought a cheap Nokia cell phone in Sweden. In a few days I 
   will be leaving for Italy and Spain, so I will need to buy two new SIM 
   cards for the phone. My question is: When I put a new SIM card in the 
   phone, does the phone acquire a new number?
  
  Yes.
  
  The number will be one from the pool allocated to the service provider from 
  whom you buy the SIM card.
 
 If you will be using it in Italy and Spain, you probably don't need two new 
 cards;
 a single SIM card (and phone number) would work in both locations.

One further point: the original (Swedish, I assume) number might still work;
that very much depends on what kind of service plan you purchased.

In theory pay-as-you-go plans often expire 90 days after the last phone call;
in practice this doesn't always happen.  My (UK) pay-as-you-go phone number
still worked when I returned to the UK over a year later.  I suggest you at
least try it first; simply topping up your minutes may be a cheaper option.
(That assumes you can find somewhere to top it up; many phones are tied to
a single service provider.  In theory you can get this restriction removed;
in practice it's often cheaper to junk the phone and pick up a new one).



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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 8, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 On a different note, I tried this shoulder rest grip.  Even though
 I'm right -eyed, my left eye is better (according to my optometrist)
 and my preference is not strong.  It feels very steady and i'm going
 to try this. Thanks Derby.

I was experimenting with flash brackets, and came up with something similar to 
help steady the camera, I adjusted the flash bracket so that it rested on my 
shoulder, allowing me to adjust the zoom, and possibly even hold the camera 
steadier.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157610464697985/

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RE: PDML Paris?

2010-10-08 Thread Bob W

 
 I'm sure Paris, Texas is very similar to Paris, France.  For example,
people live
 in both of them.  And... ummm uhhh... well, nevermind.
 

we'll always have...

... Nastassja Kinski

Bob

 Rick
 
  Hi team,
  
  I've tacked a couple of days onto a business trip to
  Paris next month to be a tourist and do some shooting.
  
  Is anyone free Tues 9 Nov or Wed 10 Nov?  Contact
  me on or off list.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Rick
  
  http://photo.net/photos/RickW
  
  
  
 
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Off into the wild ...

2010-10-08 Thread John Sessoms
Figure I'll take a weekend photo safari. Head up into the mountains 
along the NC/TN border and see if there's any color.


Wish me luck.

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LENS TEST: Tokina-A 17/3.5

2010-10-08 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
This is my 3rd Pentax digital body.  First was the *istDS.  Its out-of-camera 
JPG images were the sharpest.  But as we all know, that comes at a cost.  
Still, for snapshots it was nice.  The K100D, and now the K-x, always require 
some sharpening.  I do that later as needed.  For testing I like to examine the 
images in their natural condition.

Ok, there is no such lens as the Tokina-A.  Well, there is now.
I took a piece of aluminum foil and shorted the A pin.
The camera thinks its max aperture is 1.2, but that's ok.
I just keep the aperture ring on f16 and use Av to set it to f8 and let the 
camera do the rest.

Then I went out back and shot this pic of the neighbor's crab apple tree trunk. 
 The pics are unaltered.  

ISO 800, f8.

The complete image, reduced for ease of downloading
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/tokina1735a/tree10.jpg

Center, 100%
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/tokina1735a/tree0.jpg

Bottom Center, 100%
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/tokina1735a/tree6.jpg

Right center, 100%
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/tokina1735a/tree3.jpg

*

The images really display the low light and high light capacities of the 
camera.  Not washed out, not too dim.

*

The next step:  modify the mount so that there is a permanent A pin.
Because that's what the camera requires to be full-featured.
And if I use it on any non-A body, no problem.

Anyone got an old Tokina lens that's gone bad, but has a good mount?

Sincerely, 

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Re: Tires On

2010-10-08 Thread Jerry in Arizona
Don't I wish, but he did mount, balance, and install them for no charge.  


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huh? you mean you got free tires? good for you, son =)

2010/10/8 Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com:
 and it was a GOOD thing too.? One of the tires was worn to the belt and the 
belt
 had slipped.? Would not have wanted to be half way to Hannigan Meadow and have
 that puppy crap out.? Actually, both were in poor shape.? Lucky us!? Even
 better, the guy didn't even charge me for it.? He didn't say why, just that I
 didn't owe him anything.? Lucky me!


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Re: Off into the wild ...

2010-10-08 Thread Bill Owens
According to local Charlotte media, next weekend (16-17) will be peak
color.  This weekend is colorful only at high elevations.

Bill

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 Figure I'll take a weekend photo safari. Head up into the mountains along
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 Wish me luck.

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Re: Off into the wild ...

2010-10-08 Thread David J Brooks
Have a good trip, i;m doing the same, but not at NC/TN

Dave

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Re: Tires On

2010-10-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Don't I wish, but he did mount, balance, and install them for no charge.

Round here they do that as well, but for some reason hit you for $2.00
a valve stem. Must be the profit margin

Dave


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 huh? you mean you got free tires? good for you, son =)

 2010/10/8 Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com:
 and it was a GOOD thing too.? One of the tires was worn to the belt and the
belt
 had slipped.? Would not have wanted to be half way to Hannigan Meadow and 
 have
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Re: Never occurred to me to hold a camera this way

2010-10-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:49 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 Yeah, but that only works if you know that there *ARE* interesting bits.

Micheal Palin were are you.;-)

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Re: PESO: Shootin' the breeze

2010-10-08 Thread David J Brooks
Not sure if thats the proper tiltle but,,, lovely photo

Dave

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 Shooting the breeze : An (American?) idiom meaning chatting

 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5062194333_0f7449698a_b.jpg

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread Cotty
Forget the shots that all the other photogs will be getting - stick with
the TV reporters and wait til they get their chance to do one-to-ones -
pre-position carefully and not to close to any microphones. shoot
through the gap between camera and reporter to get some interesting head
shots, especially just before and just after the interview. Don't use
flash here or the cameraman will turn to suggest your parental ancestry.
Remember, pre-positioning is crucial - don't follow the crowd, wait for
the crowd to come to you. Find out which TV crew is 2nd or 3rd in the
pecking order - and there is *always* a pecking order. Then watch as
they come surging towards you - be prepared to be elbowed violently.
You'll get some good candids here.

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Re: WTB Friday Adaptall II lens

2010-10-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/10/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

an undamaged mount

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-10-08 19:06, Cotty wrote:

Forget the shots that all the other photogs will be getting - stick with
the TV reporters [...] Remember, pre-positioning is crucial - don't
follow the crowd, wait for the crowd to come to you. [...]


That's something I find pretty interesting at the races.  The 
photographers tend to move around in herds, mostly taking the same shots 
from the same positions, often at the same time.  At the SCCA races, 
where I have pretty much carte blanche on the hot side, as an 
experienced corner worker, I like to go the places where other photogs 
don't and get shots they never see.  But I won't tell them where I was. :-)


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Re: FS Friday: Sigma 30mm f/1.4, Pentax SMC-FA 50mm f/1.7, K100D kit with 18-55 zoom

2010-10-08 Thread Nick Wright
Do you still have the K100D and lens?

How much shipping to 64767?

Thanks.

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Re: Tires On

2010-10-08 Thread Jerry in Arizona
I bought them on Tire Rack and shipped to an independent installer so those 
services were not included in the price of the tires.

Jerry

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On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Don't I wish, but he did mount, balance, and install them for no charge.

Round here they do that as well, but for some reason hit you for $2.00
a valve stem. Must be the profit margin

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread paul stenquist

On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On 2010-10-08 19:06, Cotty wrote:
 Forget the shots that all the other photogs will be getting - stick with
 the TV reporters [...] Remember, pre-positioning is crucial - don't
 follow the crowd, wait for the crowd to come to you. [...]
 
 That's something I find pretty interesting at the races.  The photographers 
 tend to move around in herds, mostly taking the same shots from the same 
 positions, often at the same time.  At the SCCA races, where I have pretty 
 much carte blanche on the hot side, as an experienced corner worker, I like 
 to go the places where other photogs don't and get shots they never see.  But 
 I won't tell them where I was. :-)
 
I've done the same when shooting a race. But at a press conference it doesn't 
work. You have one subject and the vantage points are generally limited. The TV 
cameramen will be right alongside the still shooters, although sometimes an 
above ground platform is constructed for them -- no still shooters allowed.
Paul
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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread paul stenquist

On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Cotty wrote:

 Forget the shots that all the other photogs will be getting - stick with
 the TV reporters and wait til they get their chance to do one-to-ones -
 pre-position carefully and not to close to any microphones. shoot
 through the gap between camera and reporter to get some interesting head
 shots, especially just before and just after the interview. Don't use
 flash here or the cameraman will turn to suggest your parental ancestry.
 Remember, pre-positioning is crucial - don't follow the crowd, wait for
 the crowd to come to you. Find out which TV crew is 2nd or 3rd in the
 pecking order - and there is *always* a pecking order. Then watch as
 they come surging towards you - be prepared to be elbowed violently.
 You'll get some good candids here.
 
Here, the TV crews and print journalists frequently have to fight for post 
press conference interviews and usually have to settle for a group session 
where they take turns asking questions. One on ones are rare. The still photogs 
work from the back of the pack. 
Paul
 
 
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GESO: Moose

2010-10-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Last time we went to Maine, we looked in vain for moose among the fall colors.
This time we found some, up close and personal.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Moose#

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-10-08 21:23, paul stenquist wrote:


I've done the same when shooting a race. But at a press conference it doesn't 
work. You have one subject and the vantage points are generally limited. The TV 
cameramen will be right alongside the still shooters, although sometimes an 
above ground platform is constructed for them -- no still shooters allowed.


Yeah, I was making a reference to the herd mentality more than the 
proper techniques for getting good shots at a press conference. :-)


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Re: GESO: Moose

2010-10-08 Thread steve harley

On 2010-10-08 20:26 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

Last time we went to Maine, we looked in vain for moose among the fall colors.
This time we found some, up close and personal.


what fun!

17 summers and 6 full years in Maine and i never saw a moose; my folks 
moved a few miles up-river to Moose Hill after i left home and in 14 
years there they never saw a moose; took me until a hike in northern 
Colorado to see one (they are imported, not native to CO)


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Re: GESO: Moose

2010-10-08 Thread Otis Wright

 On 10/8/2010 10:46 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2010-10-08 20:26 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

Last time we went to Maine, we looked in vain for moose among the
fall colors.
This time we found some, up close and personal.


what fun!

17 summers and 6 full years in Maine and i never saw a moose; my folks
moved a few miles up-river to Moose Hill after i left home and in 14
years there they never saw a moose; took me until a hike in northern
Colorado to see one (they are imported, not native to CO)


First 17 years in Maine (Aroostook County) and lots of moose.

Otis Wright

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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread paul stenquist

On Oct 8, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On 2010-10-08 21:23, paul stenquist wrote:
 
 I've done the same when shooting a race. But at a press conference it 
 doesn't work. You have one subject and the vantage points are generally 
 limited. The TV cameramen will be right alongside the still shooters, 
 although sometimes an above ground platform is constructed for them -- no 
 still shooters allowed.
 
 Yeah, I was making a reference to the herd mentality more than the proper 
 techniques for getting good shots at a press conference. :-)
 
I don't know if I've ever seen a good press conference shot. Perhaps any shot 
that shows the principals and doesn't hoover completely is a good shot.
Paul
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Re: Off into the wild ...

2010-10-08 Thread Ken Waller

Luck - when preparation meets opportunity.

Hope you're prepared and have the opportunity.

Kenneth Waller
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From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

Subject: Off into the wild ...


Figure I'll take a weekend photo safari. Head up into the mountains 
along the NC/TN border and see if there's any color.


Wish me luck.



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Re: A brain-picking request

2010-10-08 Thread David Parsons
It's reportage, not fine art.  Having the principles in the shot, and
lit well enough to print is all that is needed.  The newsworthiness is
what matters.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:25 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I don't know if I've ever seen a good press conference shot. Perhaps any 
 shot that shows the principals and doesn't hoover completely is a good shot.
 Paul


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