VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
My iPad 2 showed up ... My first video composition put together using it exclusively. http://gallery.me.com/ramarren?view=detail#100016/The%20Felipe%20Projectbgcolor=black Magical tools... :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly
I continue my macro foray while the nice weather lasts. In blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/blaveis-anemone-hepatica.html Image: http://turl.no/fmt After reading about spring arriving for other PDML'ers it's nice to see it happen here too. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :)
That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly
Nice flowers. Great detail and the bit of wall adds here. Dave On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:49 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I continue my macro foray while the nice weather lasts. In blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/blaveis-anemone-hepatica.html Image: http://turl.no/fmt After reading about spring arriving for other PDML'ers it's nice to see it happen here too. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
Galia's sand seems more natural. I like the shot very much Dave On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
I see nothing. I can get sound, no pictures. Dave On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: My iPad 2 showed up ... My first video composition put together using it exclusively. http://gallery.me.com/ramarren?view=detail#100016/The%20Felipe%20Projectbgcolor=black Magical tools... :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
I can think of many, many stupid things, but if the truth be told the silliest thing I do with my camera is leaving it home. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://lovehateadvertising.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/guiness-brilliant.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
I like how your trail disappears into the blur of background. I like the tones and colors of hers. Also, the scientist in me likes the sharpness of her shot so I can look at the details of the trail. Hardly an aesthetic concern, however. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO:Another bird (feeding)
Le 22/04/11 06:44, Stan Halpin a écrit : One of the aspects of my new home that I am really enjoying is the river. From my study I have a view of the side yard and bird feeder plus some of the river and trees on the other side, but when I walk to the other part of the house the floor-to-ceiling windows open out the view to the river. So a couple of days ago as I was going for a fresh cup of coffee I spotted two new water birds. I grabbed my camera with long lens and went outside. A pair of Pied-Billed Grebes were feeding their way up the river. And I captured this sequence as one caught and ate a good sized fish . . . http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p687482279 I recommend a slide-show viewing if you have decent band-width. stan Your home sounds like a pardise to me : viewing a river ! great set of photos . i set the slideshow to very fast and I really enjoyed myself . .. will that fish do for the day ? it's huge as compared to the bird ... if i had to pick just one , i'd take nr 7 . the water background is just as interesting and detailed as the bird and prey dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly
Very nice. As always, I love the detail. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:55 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Nice flowers. Great detail and the bit of wall adds here. Dave On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:49 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I continue my macro foray while the nice weather lasts. In blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/blaveis-anemone-hepatica.html Image: http://turl.no/fmt After reading about spring arriving for other PDML'ers it's nice to see it happen here too. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :)
Bill, Post it here and I might drive over from Chicago. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Bill Sawyer wsaw...@twmi.rr.com wrote: That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not my best but my favorite
Don, I can see why you like that. I can almost feel the warm day. The farmhouse, the puffy clouds in a clear sky, the field of crops, and then the edges in wild flowers, they all bring back memories of long summer rides down to central Illinois to visit my grandparents. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: That's nice, Don. I was in farm country here in Illinois yesterday; course I didn't see nice summer views like yours--too yearly for that. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:10 PM Subject: Not my best but my favorite I got my copy of the PDML Blurb book and I was very happy with the quality. I was also satisfied with my little contribution and the presentation was, if anything better than the picture. It also made remember the the picture I submitted which was not chosen. It may not have been my best picture of 2010 but it was my favorite. My favorite from 2010 because I when I turned the corner and saw this view I jumped out and snapped the shutter like it was a deer that might run away. To me this is what summer in Iowa looks like. Presented here for your CC. Thanks ...Don http://donspix.posterous.com/maybe-not-my-best-but-my-favorite-picture-fro#!/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
Boris, I like the dynamics of Galia's composition. The trail coming in on the corner and progressing across the frame to the snale is very nice. And the sharpness is good as well. Your picture would be better if you were shorter. :-) I think some of Galia's secret is that she is closer to the subject than you. The trail coming in from the distance is a good element, but I want more of the subject snail. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
Yes, I see your shot as being somewhat warmer. I know this isn't a competition, but I have to say, I prefer your composition, Boris. Jack --- On Fri, 4/22/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 2:39 AM Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly
Terrific composition and rendering, Jostein! Jack --- On Fri, 4/22/11, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 2:49 AM I continue my macro foray while the nice weather lasts. In blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/blaveis-anemone-hepatica.html Image: http://turl.no/fmt After reading about spring arriving for other PDML'ers it's nice to see it happen here too. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO:Another bird (feeding)
Stan, Great slideshow! Can you believe that bird! Great catch. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: One of the aspects of my new home that I am really enjoying is the river. From my study I have a view of the side yard and bird feeder plus some of the river and trees on the other side, but when I walk to the other part of the house the floor-to-ceiling windows open out the view to the river. So a couple of days ago as I was going for a fresh cup of coffee I spotted two new water birds. I grabbed my camera with long lens and went outside. A pair of Pied-Billed Grebes were feeding their way up the river. And I captured this sequence as one caught and ate a good sized fish . . . http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p687482279 I recommend a slide-show viewing if you have decent band-width. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly
Jostein, Oh wow, blue anemones! I've tried to raise some white ones here, but with poor results. It doesn't look like you are missing the A200/4 Macro too much! Your shot is wonderful and the flowers just jump off the screen, great colors/rendering too. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:49 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I continue my macro foray while the nice weather lasts. In blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/blaveis-anemone-hepatica.html Image: http://turl.no/fmt After reading about spring arriving for other PDML'ers it's nice to see it happen here too. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA35/2 v DA35/2.4
They are indeed the same lens but front element is somewhat hidden by plastic barrel which makes the DA a f/2.4 lens. Though, I read a couple comments (was it here or on PentaxForums?) that in practice, (comparing directly the two lenses and noting the exposure recommended by the camera) the f/2.4 seems to gather more light than its f/2.4 aperture would suggest. Something like f/2.2. They seem to offer really the same performance. FA is better built. Neither have QS focus. DA has built-in lens correction profiles, though (as every DA lenses) and FA comes with hood (adapted for full frame) but DA has no hood AFAIK. I have neither of those lenses so I can't say more. 2011/4/21 Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net: Has anyone compared the two? I see the optical formula is the same, but simple computer graphics tell only a small and generally meaningless part of the story. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :)
I would try to be there! My schedule: this weekend is out (Easter). All of next week and the weekend of Apr 30 are ok. Meg and I will be going to Whitefish Point and vicinity May 2-4, so that period is out for me. Weekend of May 7 could be ok. Footnote: sometime in the next few weeks I need to do a round-trip to KC. Could be next week, could be right after we get back from Whitefish Point, could be a bit later. If there were a firm date for a Michigan (+ Chicago etc.) gathering, I should be able to work around that. 2nd footnote: my brother is in the Cleveland vicinity. If we head to NW Ohio, I may be able to get him to join us with his new K-5 . . . stan On Apr 22, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Bill Sawyer wrote: That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Scavenger hunt II
Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 21, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Larry Colen wrote: You've got a bit over a week: happy metal horses cast balls Ann can rearrange the letters however she likes: HMHCBES AEOAASP TRSLYPA STLLAEO well lets get my part overwith... mensch Aesoppartly stella Not over with. You've come up with words (though I bet if you intersected words like in scrabble you could come up with many more), now lets see the pictures you get based on those words NOW you tell me I had no clue that was what you expected... sorry kiddo - the other part is taking too much time as it is. ann Aesop, however is not in the OSPD (Official Scrabble players Dictionary) But it is in the OSPD (Official Scavenger Photographers Dictionary) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
Don't know why not...? Try http://tinyurl.com/3bj7yu3 On Friday, April 22, 2011, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I see nothing. I can get sound, no pictures. Dave On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: My iPad 2 showed up ... My first video composition put together using it exclusively. http://gallery.me.com/ramarren?view=detail#100016/The%20Felipe%20Projectbgcolor=black Magical tools... :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
Ah yes; also guilty. On 11-04-22 8:15 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I can think of many, many stupid things, but if the truth be told the silliest thing I do with my camera is leaving it home. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://lovehateadvertising.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/guiness-brilliant.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know why not...? Try http://tinyurl.com/3bj7yu3 That worked for some reason. Dave On Friday, April 22, 2011, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I see nothing. I can get sound, no pictures. Dave On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: My iPad 2 showed up ... My first video composition put together using it exclusively. http://gallery.me.com/ramarren?view=detail#100016/The%20Felipe%20Projectbgcolor=black Magical tools... :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso- The Inner Purple
Very nice, and great detail here. Dave On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1260403087_J6CrJFm-O-LB More withe the Optio I-10. Bright sunlight and a real dynamic range issue here. I barely saved the inner white of the pistal. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: flashback
Seems to have scanned quite well. Dave On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My youngest daughter, Ingrid, who works on Wall Street, is visiting this weekend. Here's a pic of her from early 1986. We lived in New Jersey then. I probably shot this with my Fuji 801 and a 55mm 1.8 lens. It looks like I was using my hammerhead Honeywell flash firing into a camera mounted umbrella. That was my standard flash setup at the time. The film is Tri-X. I scanned it on my Epson 3200 flatbed this afternoon. Not bad for a flatbed scan, if I do say so myself. Some sharpening in PhotoShop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12996038 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
On Apr 21, 2011, at 14:45, Darren Addy wrote: I did a silly thing yesterday. On the way home from work (about 7 miles down the road) I passed a big flock of Yellow-headed Blackbirds (something you see rarely around here. I think they just migrate through in the Spring). So I went around the block, grabbed my K-x put on my Pentax-F 70-210 and started firing away as they came and went around this small tree. When I paused to look down to see what I had captured, I got the dreaded NO CARD IN CAMERA message. They were both left at the office. Doh. When I take my card out to download files, I make it a point to leave the door on the camera open. This way, I never pick up an empty camera and assume it's ready to shoot. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: flashback
On Apr 21, 2011, at 18:37, Paul Stenquist wrote: My youngest daughter, Ingrid, who works on Wall Street, is visiting this weekend. Here's a pic of her from early 1986. We lived in New Jersey then. I probably shot this with my Fuji 801 and a 55mm 1.8 lens. It looks like I was using my hammerhead Honeywell flash firing into a camera mounted umbrella. That was my standard flash setup at the time. The film is Tri-X. I scanned it on my Epson 3200 flatbed this afternoon. Not bad for a flatbed scan, if I do say so myself. Some sharpening in PhotoShop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12996038 That's pretty damned cute, Paul! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
On Apr 22, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris I see things to like and not like so much about both images. Yours, Boris, I like the dynamic sense created by the trail coming out of the depths of the image. I do not like how bright that upper part is - I would rather expect to see this creature emerging from a darker place. It need not be much darker, just enough so that the glare does not draw the eye there first. Or to try to say it another way, I would prefer it if your light would fade somewhat in a manner correlated with the fall off in sharpness as you get further from the snail. But I think yours is a more artful use of the variation in sharpness. I like Galia's geometric composition, but I think it is too static. Or not enough. Maybe it is a geometric tracing, the trail leading to and punctuated by the snail at the end. In which case I would want to see all of the trail and the snail in sharp focus, which would probably require either a tilt lens or taking the shot from directly above the center of the image. Or maybe the intent is, as with yours, to show the dynamic movement of the snail. In which case the snail and nearer parts of the trail would need to be in sharper focus, those further back need to fade out more. Actually, I don't see anything that is macro-lens sharp and wonder if there was camera movement, maybe the mirror-lockup wasn't used, or maybe it is just the problem of a much compressed image. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Apr 21, 2011, at 14:45, Darren Addy wrote: I did a silly thing yesterday. On the way home from work (about 7 miles down the road) I passed a big flock of Yellow-headed Blackbirds (something you see rarely around here. I think they just migrate through in the Spring). So I went around the block, grabbed my K-x put on my Pentax-F 70-210 and started firing away as they came and went around this small tree. When I paused to look down to see what I had captured, I got the dreaded NO CARD IN CAMERA message. They were both left at the office. Doh. When I take my card out to download files, I make it a point to leave the door on the camera open. This way, I never pick up an empty camera and assume it's ready to shoot. -Charles Every time I do that, I remember stories I have read here about about the card door being broken off because of some incident during the time the door was left open. And I would rather be caught with no card in the camera (been there, done that!) than to risk damage to the camera. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:02, Stan Halpin wrote: On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: When I take my card out to download files, I make it a point to leave the door on the camera open. This way, I never pick up an empty camera and assume it's ready to shoot. -Charles Every time I do that, I remember stories I have read here about about the card door being broken off because of some incident during the time the door was left open. And I would rather be caught with no card in the camera (been there, done that!) than to risk damage to the camera. That's a good point. When I take the card out of the camera, though... I just tip the camera sideways (still in the camera bag) to open the door. It's left cradled in the case so there is little opportunity for mishap. So far, so good, anyways! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
You shoulda seen the one that got away! (Was Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera)
On Apr 14, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I was in college and had shot 35mm during HS and had also made good use of my GIII just before getting the K1000. So when a popular speaker came to the college I got there early and got a front-row set. Then I sat on the floor and shot up at him as he spoke, walked, and gestured. He got quite animated for the cameras. (Some people really enjoy being photographed.) Anyway, afterward I noticed that the film rewound too quickly. And we all know what that means. (Or is that assuming too much these days? Have people forgotten?) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott A common theme to many of the replies on the original thread had to do with film that didn't wind as expected, or cards that didn't put themselves back into the camera. Which made me think of the best photo I ever took that I have never seen. I was taking a graduate course in animal behavior, and a fellow student a) lived on a farm nearby, b) she was married to a veterinarian, and c) she and her husband provided foster care to young animals from the Indianapolis Zoo. So she invited the class out to observe their lion cubs. My (first) wife came along. We were playing with the cubs, she was laying on the ground and the cubs were attacking her. I got several fairly good shots, and finished the roll of film. Quickly reloaded, adjusted my viewpoint, and got two or three frames just as one cub appeared to be chewing on her neck. I got back the first roll of slides and could see exactly what I expected. I quickly finished off the second roll and sent it in, just waiting to see what greatness I had achieved with the follow-on shots. Which I just knew were better composed, framed, focused, etc. And then I waited some more. And waited. And asked the store to follow up. And waited. And waited. Never did get that roll of slides back, the only time Kodak ever lost anything of mine. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Face Book site claims.............
..that the k-5 is the most read review on imaging-resources web site. I had a look, its a very long review but seems well writtewn. http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/K5/K5A.HTM Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You shoulda seen the one that got away! (Was Re: The silliest thingyou ever did with your camera)
Along similar lines --- Took my then brand new Spotmatic with me on our honeymoon to Bermuda. Shot several rolls of slide film. I was using a mail in processing outfit waited anxiously the several days it took for the finished product to arrive. I quickly reviewed the slides on a portable, handheld viewer. One box of slides contained several slides that I didn't shoot - they were artsy/fartsey girlee shots of a good looking babe in various states of undress with the mandatory velvet cloth background. Hasn't happened since. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: You shoulda seen the one that got away! (Was Re: The silliest thingyou ever did with your camera) On Apr 14, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I was in college and had shot 35mm during HS and had also made good use of my GIII just before getting the K1000. So when a popular speaker came to the college I got there early and got a front-row set. Then I sat on the floor and shot up at him as he spoke, walked, and gestured. He got quite animated for the cameras. (Some people really enjoy being photographed.) Anyway, afterward I noticed that the film rewound too quickly. And we all know what that means. (Or is that assuming too much these days? Have people forgotten?) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott A common theme to many of the replies on the original thread had to do with film that didn't wind as expected, or cards that didn't put themselves back into the camera. Which made me think of the best photo I ever took that I have never seen. I was taking a graduate course in animal behavior, and a fellow student a) lived on a farm nearby, b) she was married to a veterinarian, and c) she and her husband provided foster care to young animals from the Indianapolis Zoo. So she invited the class out to observe their lion cubs. My (first) wife came along. We were playing with the cubs, she was laying on the ground and the cubs were attacking her. I got several fairly good shots, and finished the roll of film. Quickly reloaded, adjusted my viewpoint, and got two or three frames just as one cub appeared to be chewing on her neck. I got back the first roll of slides and could see exactly what I expected. I quickly finished off the second roll and sent it in, just waiting to see what greatness I had achieved with the follow-on shots. Which I just knew were better composed, framed, focused, etc. And then I waited some more. And waited. And asked the store to follow up. And waited. And waited. Never did get that roll of slides back, the only time Kodak ever lost anything of mine. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
They are both very nice, but once again, I prefer her work. Dan On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
WTB - Kit lens
I'm looking for an 18-55 kit lens, if anyone is looking to get rid of one. Please contact me off list. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: The Big Bang Club
The Big Bang Club I never heard of this movie until receiving Ebert's email this morning. He gives it two stars, but as a photographer, I need to see it. To quote Roger: Many of the photos of the bloody final months of apartheid were taken by four photographers who became famous as The Bang Bang Club, because of their willingness to risk death for great pictures. Two of them won Pulitzers. One of them was killed, one committed suicide, one was shot four times before retiring. The word often used about them was “courageous,” but another word that comes to mind is foolhardy. The full Ebert review is here: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110421/REVIEWS/110429997/-1/email_headlines The Pulitzer Prize winning image that makes these photographers significant is one you have all seen: http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kevin-carter-vulture.jpg?w=700h=466 -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS - non-Pentax lens
Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 macro with converter. Perfect condition, in case. $200 to PDML, just in case anyone here has a friend who has not yet repented of his/her evil (non-Pentax) ways. Plus shipping. PayPal. Trade for either FA35/2 or DA35/2.4. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Big Bang Club
Never seen the movie, but I read the book when it came out - excellent stuff. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: 22 April 2011 17:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: The Big Bang Club The Big Bang Club I never heard of this movie until receiving Ebert's email this morning. He gives it two stars, but as a photographer, I need to see it. To quote Roger: Many of the photos of the bloody final months of apartheid were taken by four photographers who became famous as The Bang Bang Club, because of their willingness to risk death for great pictures. Two of them won Pulitzers. One of them was killed, one committed suicide, one was shot four times before retiring. The word often used about them was “courageous,” but another word that comes to mind is foolhardy. The full Ebert review is here: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110421/REVI EWS/110429997/-1/email_headlines The Pulitzer Prize winning image that makes these photographers significant is one you have all seen: http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kevin-carter- vulture.jpg?w=700h=466 -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
Yes, I used to do that. :-( Until I broke the door off in a fall off the chair! It was a $200 repair on the *ist DS. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 21, 2011, at 14:45, Darren Addy wrote: I did a silly thing yesterday. On the way home from work (about 7 miles down the road) I passed a big flock of Yellow-headed Blackbirds (something you see rarely around here. I think they just migrate through in the Spring). So I went around the block, grabbed my K-x put on my Pentax-F 70-210 and started firing away as they came and went around this small tree. When I paused to look down to see what I had captured, I got the dreaded NO CARD IN CAMERA message. They were both left at the office. Doh. When I take my card out to download files, I make it a point to leave the door on the camera open. This way, I never pick up an empty camera and assume it's ready to shoot. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
Very curious. Nothing has changed about the site or the file that I'm aware of. I use ran a tinyurl.com translation of the link. Anyway, I'm glad you could get to it. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:44 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know why not...? Try http://tinyurl.com/3bj7yu3 That worked for some reason. Dave On Friday, April 22, 2011, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I see nothing. I can get sound, no pictures. Dave On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: My iPad 2 showed up ... My first video composition put together using it exclusively. http://gallery.me.com/ramarren?view=detail#100016/The%20Felipe%20Projectbgcolor=black Magical tools... :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
I still wince when I think of what I did. Perched on a rock, about 20 feet above a Scottish burn taking long exposures of the flowing water. LX + FA 24mm f/2.0 on the tripod, F28mm f/2.8 in hand. About to change the lens, nudged the tripod and, in slow motion, all toppled waterwards. In my attempt to rescue the ensemble, I only managed to throw the other lens after it as well. After crying a little, and looking at the semi submerged mess, I waded in the burn and rescued everything. Of course nothing worked. I took it all home and put everything on a radiator for a couple of days in desperation, more than anything else and amazingly after a thorough drying out, complete functionality was restored to every last piece of kit. Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The silliest thing you ever did with your camera
Oh and not quite on topic, when I graduated I argued with my mother that we shouldn't use the local Chemist to develop the films, but send them to the mail order folks who did my slides because they were special and would be of better quality. Guess what - lost in the post. 35 years on she still moans at me for that. On 22 Apr 2011, at 18:55, Peter Jordan wrote: I still wince when I think of what I did. Perched on a rock, about 20 feet above a Scottish burn taking long exposures of the flowing water. LX + FA 24mm f/2.0 on the tripod, F28mm f/2.8 in hand. About to change the lens, nudged the tripod and, in slow motion, all toppled waterwards. In my attempt to rescue the ensemble, I only managed to throw the other lens after it as well. After crying a little, and looking at the semi submerged mess, I waded in the burn and rescued everything. Of course nothing worked. I took it all home and put everything on a radiator for a couple of days in desperation, more than anything else and amazingly after a thorough drying out, complete functionality was restored to every last piece of kit. Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I aint getting no mail from list...
are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
Yes! I have a total of 7 active messages. Jack --- On Fri, 4/22/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: I aint getting no mail from list... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 10:59 AM are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
We read you loud and clear. Love photo BTW. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
Lovely photo was what I intended to write. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/4/22 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: We read you loud and clear. Love photo BTW. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
Yep, I see your email. That's a great shot of the kitchen. Great texture in the metal fixtures. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: I aint getting no mail from list... are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
Loud and clear, Ann Dan On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
Yeah, but she's not getting any new posts, although she can obviously end messages and exchange private emails. Curiouser and curiouser. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Loud and clear, Ann Dan On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Im testing to see if THIS bounces back to me -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
My honest, if not brutal, opinion is that the colors/tones and the blurring of the background in yours is commendable. However, I liked her composition and framing more. She does make justice to the equipment she uses. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG Special Edition - PDML Photo Annual Refusés
Good idea Brian. Chris On 21/04/2011, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all Tim's suggestion in another thread that people provide links to their images that were not selected for the PDML Annual got me thinking. Is there any interest in a Special Edition of the PUG showing those images? If so, I'll amend the PUG submission form and give people a week or two to submit. The same submission guidelines as for the monthly PUGs would apply. S any interest? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
On 22/4/11, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: That worked for some reason. Dave, next time you get an anomaly like that, try quitting Safari and opening it again. Safari is sometimes a bit sticky with video - at least on my setup! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A PDMLers dilemma
I've been away all week. The reply to my We've landed at ATL text said If you want dinner, you'd better stop on the way home. I stopped and got some take-out fried chicken (KFC) The PDML book arrived while I was out of town Fried chicken + photography book do NOT mix... What's a guy to do? I'm eating the chicken. The book'll keep. CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A PDMLers dilemma
On 22/4/11, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been away all week. The reply to my We've landed at ATL text said If you want dinner, you'd better stop on the way home. I stopped and got some take-out fried chicken (KFC) The PDML book arrived while I was out of town Fried chicken + photography book do NOT mix... What's a guy to do? Clearly Mrs Waters should hand feed you while you thumb through the book! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :)
I'm in. Given a choice of dates enough advance notice I could even make it. Prefer something domestic as opposed to Pelee. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bill Sawyer wsaw...@twmi.rr.com Subject: RE: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :) That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Mayflower
Thanks Ken. Thanks for the ideas. -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Not a bad subject to start with. A few thoughts come to mind - the simpliest might be using a reflector - gold will add a nice warm touch brighten the scene some. Don't know what lens or settings used but a longer lens would help some to remove some of the distraction from the background due to a shallower depth of field. Of course flash would be the next step. HTH Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Chris Sheppard chris.sheppard...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Mayflower I always know it's spring when the mayflowers come out and I start crawling around in the wet underbrush trying to get a good picture of said mayflowers. I have a very hard time getting a shot I like. Partly it's the contrast between the dark leaves and background vs the very delicate, white/pink flowers. Partly it's all the rain and dew that makes it hard to get a nice crisp photo. Partly it's me just being particular. Anyway, here is the first try for 2011. Comments, criticism, praise, and abuse are all welcome. http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/5639359872/in/photostream -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG Special Edition - PDML Photo Annual Refusés
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: What about the images that you decided last minute weren't worth submitting? Oh, let's not go there. I feel no need to suffer that particular wailing and gnashing of teeth again. -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail
Being brutal and being honest I find this to be a tie. I enjoy aspects from both captures of the same subject. ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 4:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Boris and Galia PESO #12 - Snail trail Hi there. Galia being given a DFA 50/2.8 macro is starting to get used to it... Here is a PESO for you: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-12-snail-trail.html K7 and K5 has different sensors and I couldn't get the sand color to match between the two shots... Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
Okay was it supposed to do something? ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:02 AM To: BAPhotoShooters; SeePhoto Talk; PDML Subject: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG My iPad 2 showed up ... My first video composition put together using it exclusively. http://gallery.me.com/ramarren?view=detail#100016/The%20Felipe%20Projectbgc olor=black Magical tools... :-) Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: Okay was it supposed to do something? It's a little video. Click on it and it plays. What else would you like a video to do? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO:Another bird (feeding)
Stan these are nice but I did have a hard time making out the bird and what it has in its mouth because the bird and fish both have very similar colors. Not sure really if there was or if there is any way of editing it so one can tell the difference a bit better. ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO:Another bird (feeding) One of the aspects of my new home that I am really enjoying is the river. From my study I have a view of the side yard and bird feeder plus some of the river and trees on the other side, but when I walk to the other part of the house the floor-to-ceiling windows open out the view to the river. So a couple of days ago as I was going for a fresh cup of coffee I spotted two new water birds. I grabbed my camera with long lens and went outside. A pair of Pied-Billed Grebes were feeding their way up the river. And I captured this sequence as one caught and ate a good sized fish . . . http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p687482279 I recommend a slide-show viewing if you have decent band-width. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
Nothing appeared on the page but the header there was no play video button. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: Okay was it supposed to do something? It's a little video. Click on it and it plays. What else would you like a video to do? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO:Another bird (feeding)
Stan Halpin Subject: GESO:Another bird (feeding) . . . I captured this sequence as one caught and ate a good sized fish . . . http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p687482279 I recommend a slide-show viewing if you have decent band-width. On Apr 22, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Stan these are nice but I did have a hard time making out the bird and what it has in its mouth because the bird and fish both have very similar colors. Not sure really if there was or if there is any way of editing it so one can tell the difference a bit better. If there is, I have not found it. The strong backlight didn't help. I did have exposure comp set (at +1.0, not enough). I have played with exposure, fill light, contrast, sharpening, etc. All within Lightroom. If one were an expert in Photoshop technique, which I am most definitely not, I suspect it might be possible with layers to isolate the bird + fish and do some more to bring them out which might enhance the clarity. If anyone wants to try with one or more of these files, I would be happy to send the original DNG . . . I could crop more tightly; at 1-to-1 or beyond it is easier to make out the details of what is going on. My goal here was to try and balance two priorities. One the one hand, I wanted to show an interesting interaction between bird and fish. It was interesting to watch, 'twas an unusual sight for me, and I wanted to share the record of that. On the other hand, I was trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, photographically speaking. The backlighting, the sometimes slightly-off focus, narrow depth of field, distance from the subject, etc. all conspire to make these shots just barely above the minimal keeper level of quality. In fact, if it weren't for the fish, I wouldn't have given most of these a second look. So, I am trying to make them appear as good as I can, and tell the story as well. Cropping more tightly possibly tells the story a bit better but exposes more of the flaws in the images . . . stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
I had no problem viewing the short film when first posted; I just checked and still have no problem. Safari 5.0.5 on an iMac. BTW - the film is not a great work of art, but rather a nice demonstration. For techno-geeks, (and I have strong inclinations in that direction) it is just way cool to be able to take a small post-computer® device like the iPad and to be able to both take and edit movies on the device. Which is what Godfrey is showing us. stan On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Nothing appeared on the page but the header there was no play video button. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: Okay was it supposed to do something? It's a little video. Click on it and it plays. What else would you like a video to do? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO:Another bird (feeding)
I know that feeling Stan. Last weekend I was hanging out by a new favorite spot and that is on the Richland Creek Greenway when I spot three ducks on the creek. They were not very close and where they were located was a lot of dark shadows. I only had one capture to turn out half way good but they had their tail feathers turned toward me as they were swimming down the creek. All the other captures I took were blurry. Perhaps someone that is way better with Photoshop than I am can bring out better details of your photos. Jeffery -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO:Another bird (feeding) Stan Halpin Subject: GESO:Another bird (feeding) . . . I captured this sequence as one caught and ate a good sized fish . . . http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p687482279 I recommend a slide-show viewing if you have decent band-width. On Apr 22, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Stan these are nice but I did have a hard time making out the bird and what it has in its mouth because the bird and fish both have very similar colors. Not sure really if there was or if there is any way of editing it so one can tell the difference a bit better. If there is, I have not found it. The strong backlight didn't help. I did have exposure comp set (at +1.0, not enough). I have played with exposure, fill light, contrast, sharpening, etc. All within Lightroom. If one were an expert in Photoshop technique, which I am most definitely not, I suspect it might be possible with layers to isolate the bird + fish and do some more to bring them out which might enhance the clarity. If anyone wants to try with one or more of these files, I would be happy to send the original DNG . . . I could crop more tightly; at 1-to-1 or beyond it is easier to make out the details of what is going on. My goal here was to try and balance two priorities. One the one hand, I wanted to show an interesting interaction between bird and fish. It was interesting to watch, 'twas an unusual sight for me, and I wanted to share the record of that. On the other hand, I was trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, photographically speaking. The backlighting, the sometimes slightly-off focus, narrow depth of field, distance from the subject, etc. all conspire to make these shots just barely above the minimal keeper level of quality. In fact, if it weren't for the fish, I wouldn't have given most of these a second look. So, I am trying to make them appear as good as I can, and tell the story as well. Cropping more tightly possibly tells the story a bit better but exposes more of the flaws in the images . . . stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG
Using Firefox here and win 7. ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG I had no problem viewing the short film when first posted; I just checked and still have no problem. Safari 5.0.5 on an iMac. BTW - the film is not a great work of art, but rather a nice demonstration. For techno-geeks, (and I have strong inclinations in that direction) it is just way cool to be able to take a small post-computerR device like the iPad and to be able to both take and edit movies on the device. Which is what Godfrey is showing us. stan On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Nothing appeared on the page but the header there was no play video button. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: VESO 2011 - Way too much fun - GDG On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: Okay was it supposed to do something? It's a little video. Click on it and it plays. What else would you like a video to do? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
Ann and Paul, I'm getting your mail. Though neither of you seem to be getting mail from the list, so I'm cc'ing you directly. On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly
I first read that as Liverwurst and bee-fly, and thought, What?!. http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 4/22/11, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Liverwort and bee-fly To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 5:49 AM I continue my macro foray while the nice weather lasts. In blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/blaveis-anemone-hepatica.html Image: http://turl.no/fmt After reading about spring arriving for other PDML'ers it's nice to see it happen here too. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Big Bang Club
Actually, I mistyped. The name of the Film is The Bang Bang Club. Dan On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Never seen the movie, but I read the book when it came out - excellent stuff. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: 22 April 2011 17:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: The Big Bang Club The Big Bang Club I never heard of this movie until receiving Ebert's email this morning. He gives it two stars, but as a photographer, I need to see it. To quote Roger: Many of the photos of the bloody final months of apartheid were taken by four photographers who became famous as The Bang Bang Club, because of their willingness to risk death for great pictures. Two of them won Pulitzers. One of them was killed, one committed suicide, one was shot four times before retiring. The word often used about them was “courageous,” but another word that comes to mind is foolhardy. The full Ebert review is here: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110421/REVI EWS/110429997/-1/email_headlines The Pulitzer Prize winning image that makes these photographers significant is one you have all seen: http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kevin-carter- vulture.jpg?w=700h=466 -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
Right - still not getting list mail - boo hoo...! Larry - working on the hunt though , since I got my shot done for May Pug, have two shots - cast metal, horses so far I sent Doug a message on Facebook... Ironic that I couldn't spend much time reading things in the past few days and now that I can... I can't! I can get mail from individuals, just not stuff that comes from pdml@pdml.net so nows your chance to talk about me behind my back :-) my keyboard will be burning ann Larry Colen wrote: Ann and Paul, I'm getting your mail. Though neither of you seem to be getting mail from the list, so I'm cc'ing you directly. On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Right - still not getting list mail - boo hoo...! Larry - working on the hunt though , since I got my shot done for May Pug, have two shots - cast metal, horses so far I sent Doug a message on Facebook... Ironic that I couldn't spend much time reading things in the past few days and now that I can... I can't! I can get mail from individuals, just not stuff that comes from pdml@pdml.net Likewise here. I'm getting all my regular e-mail, but none from PDML. Very odd. Paul so nows your chance to talk about me behind my back :-) my keyboard will be burning ann Larry Colen wrote: Ann and Paul, I'm getting your mail. Though neither of you seem to be getting mail from the list, so I'm cc'ing you directly. On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Big Bang Club
Dan - yours was the last PDML message I received before the list apparently died. For an explanation of the list weirdness, and in your honor, I am developing what will come to be know as the Big Bang Theory. stan On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Actually, I mistyped. The name of the Film is The Bang Bang Club. Dan On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Never seen the movie, but I read the book when it came out - excellent stuff. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: 22 April 2011 17:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: The Big Bang Club The Big Bang Club I never heard of this movie until receiving Ebert's email this morning. He gives it two stars, but as a photographer, I need to see it. To quote Roger: Many of the photos of the bloody final months of apartheid were taken by four photographers who became famous as The Bang Bang Club, because of their willingness to risk death for great pictures. Two of them won Pulitzers. One of them was killed, one committed suicide, one was shot four times before retiring. The word often used about them was “courageous,” but another word that comes to mind is foolhardy. The full Ebert review is here: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110421/REVI EWS/110429997/-1/email_headlines The Pulitzer Prize winning image that makes these photographers significant is one you have all seen: http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kevin-carter- vulture.jpg?w=700h=466 -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT A short Tim Hetherington legacy
Utter madness http://vimeo.com/18497543 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up with several observations * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb Miscrere). As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my wife - French) Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a non photographer - my wife. While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my reactions to some that really caught my eye: 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of it Christine. Notables why I thought so - 'Eighteen Below on the Salmon River by Thomas Cakalic - subject and composition 'Winter's Grace' by Jack Davis - simplicity, subject and execution 'The Red Door' by Ann Sanfedele - symmetry and composition 'From Across +3' by Fernando Terrazzino - subject, composition and lighting 'Looking for Another Wave' by Brian Walters - subject and composition 'Jetty Dreams' by Bruce Walker - composition, subject and light 'Turbofan' by Bong Manayon - subject and composition 'Ruby Red' by Brendan MacRae - subject and composition 'Third Snow this Winter's by Ann Sanfedele - execution, subject and composition 'The Monument' by Buylent Celasun - Subject and execution 'Love' by Tanya Love - subject and execution 'Lead Sled' by Paul Stenquist - what can I say I'm a sucker for a good car image, especially a Ford 'Winter Beach' by Carl Gjersem - composition and lighting I agree with Bill Robb, the quotation list seemed a little forced as if people were purposefully wording things to be included in the annual list. If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! YMMV Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I aint getting no mail from list...
What fun is that? If I go through the trouble of making witty banter and snide comments about a person, I want them to hear it. -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:19:07 To: Larry Colenl...@red4est.com Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: I aint getting no mail from list... Right - still not getting list mail - boo hoo...! Larry - working on the hunt though , since I got my shot done for May Pug, have two shots - cast metal, horses so far I sent Doug a message on Facebook... Ironic that I couldn't spend much time reading things in the past few days and now that I can... I can't! I can get mail from individuals, just not stuff that comes from pdml@pdml.net so nows your chance to talk about me behind my back :-) my keyboard will be burning ann Larry Colen wrote: Ann and Paul, I'm getting your mail. Though neither of you seem to be getting mail from the list, so I'm cc'ing you directly. On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: are you guys able to read this? Ok.. here is a peso too http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1260899793_XR22CLf/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Pysanky
A tradition in my father's family, and among many Russians, Ukrainians and Rusyns: Easter eggs made by a wax-resist technique. http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=80 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are all Welcome. Dan -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My observations on the 2011 PDML ANnual
Ken You've pretty much summed up my reactions as well, and my wife Margaret also commented on the standard of Doug's preface. The layout and format of the book is just about perfect, although I agree a slightly larger font would be appreciated by my aging eyes. There are perhaps half a dozen pages where I think the backgrounds are slightly distracting but in most cases they work extremely well. I dip's me lid to Mark and his co-conspirators and a job superbly done. It's very difficult to select favourites but Christine's 'Akira' is certainly up there. Christine's 'Chicago Fog' was also my favourite in 2008-09, so it's about time she stopped showing us up. :-) I wish I'd taken Jack's 'Winter Grace' - a wonderfully simple but perfect composition. Others that I particularly enjoyed were Toine's 'Bokeh Baby' (another beautiful and simple composition), Ken's 'Ice Flower', Bong's 'Color Pencil Blooms', Ann's 'Red Door', Jaume's 'Monastery Visitors' and, and,and This is a book that I'm going to enjoy immensely over the coming months. Well done all!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 00:14 -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Have reviewed the annual several time since I received it, and have come up with several observations * Another great job by Mark - your organizational and stylistic abilities are wonderful - thank you very much for the effort (and the efforts of Doug Brewer, Scott Loveless, Bill Robb Miscrere). As I paged thu the latest edition several things jumped out at me (and my wife - French) Doug Brewer is a very good writer - his foreword is priceless, even for a non photographer - my wife. While all of the images are very well done I'd like to point out my reactions to some that really caught my eye: 'My nephew, Akira' by Christine Aguila - absolutely the best in the book, IMO, the subject and execution are stunning - you should be very proud of it Christine. Notables why I thought so - 'Eighteen Below on the Salmon River by Thomas Cakalic - subject and composition 'Winter's Grace' by Jack Davis - simplicity, subject and execution 'The Red Door' by Ann Sanfedele - symmetry and composition 'From Across +3' by Fernando Terrazzino - subject, composition and lighting 'Looking for Another Wave' by Brian Walters - subject and composition 'Jetty Dreams' by Bruce Walker - composition, subject and light 'Turbofan' by Bong Manayon - subject and composition 'Ruby Red' by Brendan MacRae - subject and composition 'Third Snow this Winter's by Ann Sanfedele - execution, subject and composition 'The Monument' by Buylent Celasun - Subject and execution 'Love' by Tanya Love - subject and execution 'Lead Sled' by Paul Stenquist - what can I say I'm a sucker for a good car image, especially a Ford 'Winter Beach' by Carl Gjersem - composition and lighting I agree with Bill Robb, the quotation list seemed a little forced as if people were purposefully wording things to be included in the annual list. If there was one thing I'd change in the 2011 Annual it would be the size of the font - I find it a little hard to read with my old eyes! YMMV Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUG Special Edition - PDML Photo Annual Refusés
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:49 +1000, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 April 2011 08:57, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all Tim's suggestion in another thread that people provide links to their images that were not selected for the PDML Annual got me thinking. Is there any interest in a Special Edition of the PUG showing those images? If so, I'll amend the PUG submission form and give people a week or two to submit. The same submission guidelines as for the monthly PUGs would apply. S any interest? What about the images that you decided last minute weren't worth submitting? Well, that probably wouldn't be within the guidelines. But, if you think you can get away with it. (unmarked notes of large denomination in a brown paper bag might help) :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
