Re: PUG EXtra - PDML Photo Annual Refuses Gallery is live!

2011-05-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 5/21/2011 00:50, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day' all.

Some really impressive work here - a top gallery!

http://pug.komkon.org/

Note: If you see the previous gallery when you visit that link, you
probably need to refresh the page in your browser.

By the way, at the bottom of the index page are links to Mark's PDML
Annual page (where you can find links to the 2011 Annual's photos and
photographers) and to the Blurb page (if you haven't ordered your copy
yet.).


Thank you, Brian for your patience and hard work! This is truly a 
terrific gallery!


Boris

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Re: OT: Time lapse video

2011-05-21 Thread Larry Colen

On May 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 Amusing time lapse video:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k-xG8XX1EMfeature=player_embedded

here's a fun one that I just got a link to:

Birth to 10 years in 1:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejbNVWES4LI


 
 
 
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RE: Essential Kit

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W


 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 drd1...@gmail.com


 
 Interesting.  How's the chicken salad at the KGB canteen?

the swan flies to Minsk at midnight.


 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
 Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 00:47:06
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Essential Kit
 
 On 20/05/2011 16:30, John Sessoms wrote:
  From: mike wilson
 
  On 19/05/2011 21:55, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
   My bag has a built-in card pocket that holds eight cards. 8 times
 1000
   exposures per 16G card means it holds enough cards to cover two
 to
   three years of average shooting need ... and if I lose the bag
 (which
   always has my gear in it) I'm gonna be bummed anyway. ;-)
 
  I've lost (had stolen) gear and was always more bummed about the
  undeveloped film in it.
 
  I've never gotten stolen items back, but I have had *lost* gear
 returned
  to me because I had my contact information inside the case.
 
 I once left my monopod in the KGB canteen in the Kremlin.  It was still
 there when I went back for it.




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RE: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W


 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Sandy Harris
 Sent: 21 May 2011 04:44
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion
 
 I am a regular on a forum for foreigners in China. It had a
 long discussion of some of the odd English seen on T-shirts
 here. http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=5380.0
 
 Many of the posts were illustrated with photos. Quite a
 few might have embarrassed the subjects. Many were
 university-age women wearing things like Slut #69,
 of course without a clue what the English meant.
 

that's not limited to China. I first noticed the phenomenon in France in the
early '70s. People seem to have improved their English somewhat since then,
but the t-shirts often involved some gobbledigook phrase follwed by Team.

I'm also fascinated by people here who have tattoos in Japanese, Arabic,
Chinese and so on. I wonder what they say, and I suspect in most cases it's
something like Dry Clean Only.

 From there, another discussion has spun off in a thread
 titled Ethical photography. It might interest some here.
 http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=6397.0
 




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Re: Essential Kit

2011-05-21 Thread mike wilson

On 21/05/2011 03:34, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Interesting.  How's the chicken salad at the KGB canteen?


If I told you, I'd have to kill you.


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Subject: Re: Essential Kit

On 20/05/2011 16:30, John Sessoms wrote:

From: mike wilson


On 19/05/2011 21:55, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

My bag has a built-in card pocket that holds eight cards. 8 times 1000
exposures per 16G card means it holds enough cards to cover two to
three years of average shooting need ... and if I lose the bag (which
always has my gear in it) I'm gonna be bummed anyway. ;-)


I've lost (had stolen) gear and was always more bummed about the
undeveloped film in it.


I've never gotten stolen items back, but I have had *lost* gear returned
to me because I had my contact information inside the case.


I once left my monopod in the KGB canteen in the Kremlin.  It was still
there when I went back for it.




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Re: Essential Kit

2011-05-21 Thread mike wilson

On 21/05/2011 11:19, Bob W wrote:




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drd1...@gmail.com





Interesting.  How's the chicken salad at the KGB canteen?


the swan flies to Minsk at midnight.


Minsk? Midnight?  Boy, am I in the wrong place.




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Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 00:47:06
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Subject: Re: Essential Kit

On 20/05/2011 16:30, John Sessoms wrote:

From: mike wilson


On 19/05/2011 21:55, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

My bag has a built-in card pocket that holds eight cards. 8 times

1000

exposures per 16G card means it holds enough cards to cover two

to

three years of average shooting need ... and if I lose the bag

(which

always has my gear in it) I'm gonna be bummed anyway. ;-)


I've lost (had stolen) gear and was always more bummed about the
undeveloped film in it.


I've never gotten stolen items back, but I have had *lost* gear

returned

to me because I had my contact information inside the case.


I once left my monopod in the KGB canteen in the Kremlin.  It was still
there when I went back for it.








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Re: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion

2011-05-21 Thread mike wilson

On 21/05/2011 11:21, Bob W wrote:




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Sandy Harris
Sent: 21 May 2011 04:44
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Subject: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion

I am a regular on a forum for foreigners in China. It had a
long discussion of some of the odd English seen on T-shirts
here. http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=5380.0

Many of the posts were illustrated with photos. Quite a
few might have embarrassed the subjects. Many were
university-age women wearing things like Slut #69,
of course without a clue what the English meant.



that's not limited to China. I first noticed the phenomenon in France in the
early '70s. People seem to have improved their English somewhat since then,
but the t-shirts often involved some gobbledigook phrase follwed by Team.

I'm also fascinated by people here who have tattoos in Japanese, Arabic,
Chinese and so on. I wonder what they say, and I suspect in most cases it's
something like Dry Clean Only.


Urban legend has it that one popular tattoo was originally lifted from a 
menu and translates to This dish very tasty.



 From there, another discussion has spun off in a thread
titled Ethical photography. It might interest some here.
http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=6397.0


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OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
the International Date Line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto


B


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Re: Peso Tulip 10

2011-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Jeffery Johnson
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 Nice Tulip Dave... Curious about the non over saturation of the red. I have
 had to tone down the red saturation on any red flower I have taken a capture
 of so it is not so over whelming.

Jeffery. The tulip in question is actually any orange/red tulip, more
orange than red. This is what the camera gave me, but i liked what it
did give me, so i did not play around with it.
My K10D is horrible when shooting red flowers, so i tend to avoid them.

Dave


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 Subject: Peso Tulip 10

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13150294

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Re: PUG EXtra - PDML Photo Annual Refuses Gallery is live!

2011-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day' all.

 Some really impressive work here - a top gallery!

 http://pug.komkon.org/



Great shots, no wonder the editors had a tough choice.

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Re: K-5's in-camera digital filters

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Like I said before, Jeffery--start pressing those buttons :-)  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: RE: K-5's in-camera digital filters



I really need to start playing around with some of the filters on the K-R.

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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:27 AM
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Subject: K-5's in-camera digital filters

These filters are kind of fun.  You know, you could make your own cool
clip-art for project work with these features.  A month or so ago I talked
about a stripped down K-5 without these features.  I may have to eat my
bonnet on that one.  Just an FYI.  Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/digitalfilters/


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Re: PESO - Riding the Waves

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila

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Subject: PESO - Riding the Waves

The other night, after yet another windy rainstorm, Lake Ontario was pretty
angry.  These two gulls seemed to enjoy riding the air currents while
watching the waves:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/riding-waves.html


That's a nice scene, Frank.  Having tried shooting waves, I appreciate the 
difficulties--good job here.  Cheers, Christine 



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Peso pedals

2011-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13150312

From the front garden as the sun came out yesterday. First time in over week.

K10D, D FA 50-200

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Peso Norman

2011-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
Norman is getting old an crusty.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13152252

Its a bit soft, she can move faster than the K10D AF.:-)

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Re: Peso Mrs C

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila

Neato.  Interesting colors on the bird.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Peso Mrs C



No not Mrs Cunningham, Mrs Cardinal

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13150292

Shot through the window with K10D, D FA 50-200 and SR very on.

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Re: K-5's in-camera digital filters

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila


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I suspect the people who created those filters had as much fun as
those of us who'll use them.  Funky stuff... -T


Indeed!  Cheers, Christine

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Re: K-5's in-camera digital filters

2011-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
The extract colour filter seems nice.

Dave

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 These filters are kind of fun.  You know, you could make your own cool
 clip-art for project work with these features.  A month or so ago I talked
 about a stripped down K-5 without these features.  I may have to eat my
 bonnet on that one.  Just an FYI.  Cheers, Christine

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Re: Godders in NY

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila

Neato!  Glad you guys had a great visit!  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Godders in NY


We had planned to have a nice walk on the Hi Line  but the weather threw 
us a curve...


Met up at Union Square at noon... in the drizzle... went upstairs at a 
building next to Whole Foods to
look out at Union square...  the bw shot was taken while we sat and 
chatted in dry comfort ...


Then we went to Chinatown for lunch  and to check out what was showing at 
my old gallery on White Street...


The color shot was taken there during one of the very few breaks in the 
weather... neither one of us was carrying

the right gear for rain shooting

Had a great visit though!


http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/4796533_saNpx

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Re: PUG EXtra - PDML Photo Annual Refuses Gallery is live!

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent gallery!  Thanks for your work on this Brian--yo the PUG man! 
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PUG EXtra - PDML Photo Annual Refuses Gallery is live!


G'day' all.

Some really impressive work here - a top gallery!

http://pug.komkon.org/

Note: If you see the previous gallery when you visit that link, you
probably need to refresh the page in your browser.

By the way, at the bottom of the index page are links to Mark's PDML
Annual page (where you can find links to the 2011 Annual's photos and
photographers) and to the Blurb page (if you haven't ordered your copy
yet.).



Getting back to the monthly PUG, next up is June - Close to Home.
Because of the inclusion of the Refusés Gallery in the programme, the
closing date for submissions to Close to Home will be extended until 7
June.

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.




Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
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Re: Peso Mrs C

2011-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Neato.  Interesting colors on the bird.  Cheers, Christine

Thanks. It was a bit dark out and i did not want to try fill flash
through the window.

Dave


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 Subject: Peso Mrs C


 No not Mrs Cunningham, Mrs Cardinal

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13150292

 Shot through the window with K10D, D FA 50-200 and SR very on.

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Re: Peso Norman

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila

fun determined look there, Dave.  cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:03 AM
Subject: Peso Norman



Norman is getting old an crusty.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13152252

Its a bit soft, she can move faster than the K10D AF.:-)

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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila


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From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info


From the above you probably have gathered that I strongly endorse C's 
suggestion. In more specific support I offer the following:
a. For the collaborators who are interested, I will commit to 
editing/publishing the first 4-5 photo essays produced thorough such 
collaborations; I am imagining a Blurb book with 10-20 pages per essay. 
If/when such a work is produced, a free copy to all contributors, any 
profits to the Dana-Farber organization.


WOW!  That's a very generous offer, Stan.  Bob W., Christine from Boston, 
and I are chewing on the beach topic.  If they want to take you up on your 
offer, I'm game!  Cheers, Christine




b. Inspired by some of the industrial images posted by PDMLers, i have 
been planning a small series of photos of active and decaying midwestern 
silos and feed mills. I would love to try and work up a collaborative 
photo essay on such a theme. I also stand ready to join in if anyone has 
an alternate idea they would like to pursue. (Except beaches, Christine. 
Not my thing.)


Lets try out this notion of collaborative photo projects and see where we 
can get with it!





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Re: Peso Tulip 10

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Technically well done shot of the Tulip. Background, borderline busy.

Jack

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 Subject: Peso Tulip 10
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Petch Dianne 
 dianne.pe...@yahoo.com, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
 Date: Friday, May 20, 2011, 6:10 PM
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13150294
 
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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Way to go Stan and Christine!
I think the idea is facinating and just need to pick a topic.
Stan, you're grain silos is a good one.  Bill Robb should be in on that.
I might even have some from Illinois and Iowa.
I have thought about trains, am facinated by grocery stores
(yah, grocery stores - I always look when outside the US),
and the old industrial side of cities (thanks Ralph).
But what the heck, even flower gardens decorating homes would be great.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I have quoted Christine's original post in full below for those who missed it 
 the first time.

 I think Christine has an inspired idea that could allow PDMLers to take their 
 work in a new direction. We have had the themed PUG for many many years, and 
 as Doug notes in his Introduction to this year's PDML Annual, the PUG has 
 been an important element of our identity as a group, taking us beyond random 
 chatter to a more fundamental sharing process. (Doug, my apologies for 
 mangling your thoughts and words with this rough paraphrase.) We have had 
 instances where multiple PDMLers have shared images of a common event (e.g., 
 PDML gatherings, GFM) But always we have seen a collection of single images. 
 We have seen portfolios and photo essays from individuals (Bob W. and 
 Christine's work comes to mind.) But I cannot recall a previous suggestion 
 for a collaborative process like the one C has suggested.

 C was inspired by a particular body of work which focused on relatively 
 mundane day-to-day activities: tending gardens, eating dinner, going to 
 church, buying gasoline/petrol, getting married  . . . But there is no reason 
 this collaboration notion could not encompass any photographic subject. 
 Macros of flowers? Wide angle landscapes? Backyard wildlife? Product 
 photography of grocery-store food items in different countries? The 
 particular topic is irrelevant as long as it inspires two or more list 
 members to decide to work together to try and reflect their shared vision of 
 something. Dan, for example, has an ongoing project on roadside diners. There 
 must be someone on the List who has seen those and thought about the 
 parallels and differences in common eating places in their own countries?

 From the above you probably have gathered that I strongly endorse C's 
 suggestion. In more specific support I offer the following:
 a. For the collaborators who are interested, I will commit to 
 editing/publishing the first 4-5 photo essays produced thorough such 
 collaborations; I am imagining a Blurb book with 10-20 pages per essay. 
 If/when such a work is produced, a free copy to all contributors, any profits 
 to the Dana-Farber organization.
 b. Inspired by some of the industrial images posted by PDMLers, i have been 
 planning a small series of photos of active and decaying midwestern silos and 
 feed mills. I would love to try and work up a collaborative photo essay on 
 such a theme. I also stand ready to join in if anyone has an alternate idea 
 they would like to pursue. (Except beaches, Christine. Not my thing.)

 Lets try out this notion of collaborative photo projects and see where we can 
 get with it!

 stan


 On May 18, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hi Everyone:

 I just finished F. Jack Hurley's book, Portrait of a Decade:  Roy Stryker 
 and the Development of Documentary Photography in the Thirties.  Many of you 
 have probably read this, but if not, you should be able to find it in your 
 local library or secure a used copy via bookfinder or amazon.

 At 175 pages, the book provides a nice broad look at Roy Stryker's life, his 
 years studying and teaching economics, his working relationship with Rexford 
 Tugwell, and, of course, his leadership at the Farm Security Administration 
 (FSA).  All fascinating stuff!  You won't be disappointed--I promise!

 The book has inspired an idea that might be of interest to PDML list 
 members.  In 1936, Stryker began to broaden the FSA projects to include 
 photographic documentation or rural, small-town, and urban life (as opposed 
 to poverty in agricultural communities).  According to Hurley, Stryker used 
 questions to give focused direction and purpose to the photographers' field 
 work--to illustrate:  What do people do at home in the evenings?  Do the 
 activities in a small town differ from those in a large city?  How do people 
 dress for church?  Where do people meet?  Do beer halls and pool halls take 
 the place of country clubs for the poor?  [and even broader questions] What 
 are the key economic factors in the existence of a small town?  The 
 railroad?  The highway?  How can these be represented visually?  Has anyone 
 ever taken a really good series of pictures of a filling station, showing 
 its relationship to the restless, shifting American population?  What do 
 railroad stations look like?  How do they relate to small-town life? (98)

 When I 

Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
I'm going over to Charlie Sheen's house for one hell of a party...

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 Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
 the International Date Line.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto


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Re: Godders in NY

2011-05-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It was a gloriously damp and sloggy day ... unrelenting drizzle, rain,
and muck. I bought a $4 umbrella as soon as I got off the subway at
Union Square.

I like those photos of me, Ann!

It was great to see you and a real pleasure to visit the Soho Photo
Gallery with you. I guess I have to retaliate with AnnSan photos, eh?

  http://gallery.me.com/godders#100324

Both taken with the GXR and A12 28mm. I've come to like this camera
very much indeed. The full size originals are absolutely stunning. An
A12 50mm lens is on the way now. :-)

Yeah, we missed the High Line. With the rain and muck, and my general
state of exhaustion (my brother and I were up until the wee hours the
night before updating his website ... http://www.headlinestudios.net
), it was simply unthinkable to walk another hour and some in the
rain. And I got notice that my dinner appointment had been moved up
too, so it was off on the Hudson Line a little earlier than expected.
We'll have to do that on the next bounce.

A real pleasure to see you, Ann! It's hardly a NY trip anymore without
visiting you. :-)

onwards,
G

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 We had planned to have a nice walk on the Hi Line  but the weather threw us
 a curve...

 Met up at Union Square at noon... in the drizzle... went upstairs at a
 building next to Whole Foods to
 look out at Union square...  the bw shot was taken while we sat and chatted
 in dry comfort ...

 Then we went to Chinatown for lunch  and to check out what was showing at my
 old gallery on White Street...

 The color shot was taken there during one of the very few breaks in the
 weather... neither one of us was carrying
 the right gear for rain shooting

 Had a great visit though!


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/4796533_saNpx

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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Did the world end yet? I haven't checked my clock ...

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 Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
 the International Date Line.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto


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Re: PUG EXtra - PDML Photo Annual Refuses Gallery is live!

2011-05-21 Thread Igor Roshchin


Sat May 21 08:09:34 EDT 2011
Christine Aguila wrote:

 Excellent gallery!  Thanks for your work on this Brian--yo the PUG man! 

(from the music in the air)
Brian--yo, the PUG[ie] man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZeyIbcsuPE

:-)

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Re: OT: Samsung Prototypes

2011-05-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If they make a digital Hasselblad SWC ...

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 The cubes are interesting.  FF mirrorless in an MF format?
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Re: Godders in NY

2011-05-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh yes: I just added another picture to the gallery ... the view over
Union Square that we were shooting!

enjoy ...

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 It was a gloriously damp and sloggy day ... unrelenting drizzle, rain,
 and muck. I bought a $4 umbrella as soon as I got off the subway at
 Union Square.

 I like those photos of me, Ann!

 It was great to see you and a real pleasure to visit the Soho Photo
 Gallery with you. I guess I have to retaliate with AnnSan photos, eh?

  http://gallery.me.com/godders#100324

 Both taken with the GXR and A12 28mm. I've come to like this camera
 very much indeed. The full size originals are absolutely stunning. An
 A12 50mm lens is on the way now. :-)

 Yeah, we missed the High Line. With the rain and muck, and my general
 state of exhaustion (my brother and I were up until the wee hours the
 night before updating his website ... http://www.headlinestudios.net
 ), it was simply unthinkable to walk another hour and some in the
 rain. And I got notice that my dinner appointment had been moved up
 too, so it was off on the Hudson Line a little earlier than expected.
 We'll have to do that on the next bounce.

 A real pleasure to see you, Ann! It's hardly a NY trip anymore without
 visiting you. :-)

 onwards,
 G

 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 We had planned to have a nice walk on the Hi Line  but the weather threw us
 a curve...

 Met up at Union Square at noon... in the drizzle... went upstairs at a
 building next to Whole Foods to
 look out at Union square...  the bw shot was taken while we sat and chatted
 in dry comfort ...

 Then we went to Chinatown for lunch  and to check out what was showing at my
 old gallery on White Street...

 The color shot was taken there during one of the very few breaks in the
 weather... neither one of us was carrying
 the right gear for rain shooting

 Had a great visit though!


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/4796533_saNpx

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Re: Godders in NY

2011-05-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fun to see the view of Union Square Park. Back in the mid eighties, when I 
worked at Geer Dubois on 16th and Fifth, I ate lunch in the park on nice days. 
Good memories.

Great to see Ann smiling as well.

Paul


On May 21, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 It was a gloriously damp and sloggy day ... unrelenting drizzle, rain,
 and muck. I bought a $4 umbrella as soon as I got off the subway at
 Union Square.
 
 I like those photos of me, Ann!
 
 It was great to see you and a real pleasure to visit the Soho Photo
 Gallery with you. I guess I have to retaliate with AnnSan photos, eh?
 
  http://gallery.me.com/godders#100324
 
 Both taken with the GXR and A12 28mm. I've come to like this camera
 very much indeed. The full size originals are absolutely stunning. An
 A12 50mm lens is on the way now. :-)
 
 Yeah, we missed the High Line. With the rain and muck, and my general
 state of exhaustion (my brother and I were up until the wee hours the
 night before updating his website ... http://www.headlinestudios.net
 ), it was simply unthinkable to walk another hour and some in the
 rain. And I got notice that my dinner appointment had been moved up
 too, so it was off on the Hudson Line a little earlier than expected.
 We'll have to do that on the next bounce.
 
 A real pleasure to see you, Ann! It's hardly a NY trip anymore without
 visiting you. :-)
 
 onwards,
 G
 
 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 We had planned to have a nice walk on the Hi Line  but the weather threw us
 a curve...
 
 Met up at Union Square at noon... in the drizzle... went upstairs at a
 building next to Whole Foods to
 look out at Union square...  the bw shot was taken while we sat and chatted
 in dry comfort ...
 
 Then we went to Chinatown for lunch  and to check out what was showing at my
 old gallery on White Street...
 
 The color shot was taken there during one of the very few breaks in the
 weather... neither one of us was carrying
 the right gear for rain shooting
 
 Had a great visit though!
 
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/4796533_saNpx
 
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Re: Godders in NY

2011-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


It was a gloriously damp and sloggy day ... unrelenting drizzle, rain,
and muck. I bought a $4 umbrella as soon as I got off the subway at
Union Square.

I like those photos of me, Ann!


Glad!


It was great to see you and a real pleasure to visit the Soho Photo
Gallery with you. I guess I have to retaliate with AnnSan photos, eh?

 http://gallery.me.com/godders#100324

No you didn't!  well the one of me shooting I like quite a lot ... shows 
how much weight I list but I may
kill you for the one where I'm laughing... I scare myself in that one... 
gotta get someone to hack your site
and remove the offending image ;-)  


Both taken with the GXR and A12 28mm. I've come to like this camera
very much indeed. The full size originals are absolutely stunning. An
A12 50mm lens is on the way now. :-)

Yeah, we missed the High Line. With the rain and muck, and my general
state of exhaustion (my brother and I were up until the wee hours the
night before updating his website ... http://www.headlinestudios.net
), it was simply unthinkable to walk another hour and some in the
rain. And I got notice that my dinner appointment had been moved up
too, so it was off on the Hudson Line a little earlier than expected.
We'll have to do that on the next bounce.

A real pleasure to see you, Ann! It's hardly a NY trip anymore without
visiting you. :-)

onwards,
G


Hope your dinner was was yummy  and look forward to your next trip!

ann



On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 


We had planned to have a nice walk on the Hi Line  but the weather threw us
a curve...

Met up at Union Square at noon... in the drizzle... went upstairs at a
building next to Whole Foods to
look out at Union square...  the bw shot was taken while we sat and chatted
in dry comfort ...

Then we went to Chinatown for lunch  and to check out what was showing at my
old gallery on White Street...

The color shot was taken there during one of the very few breaks in the
weather... neither one of us was carrying
the right gear for rain shooting

Had a great visit though!


http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/4796533_saNpx

ann


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Re: Tourist for a day

2011-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
At first the index page put me off a bit - I didn't get it... then I 
liked it and the presentation matched  the tone.
No problems with the text over in this kind of thing...  glad I upgraded 
my Flash on FIrefox but I couldnt
make the page work just clicking on it in  Netscape.  


ann

Cotty wrote:


On 17/5/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


I agree with you about the white text, but it's only a one-off for me, not
something I'm likely to do regularly, and it's just a template from
Lightroom, so I'm not going to try and change it.
   



Understood - but still quite fun and to be honest I went through the
whole lot because it could be very quick. When I look at a gallery, the
speed of the thing is quite important to me. I like to choose how long I
dwell on a shot - and that can be less than a second, to well over a
minute, with everything in between.

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Re: OT: Samsung Prototypes

2011-05-21 Thread Adam Maas
Friend of mine rents a CFi back for his SWC regularly. Not as wide as
film, but he gets some great stuff.

-Adam

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 If they make a digital Hasselblad SWC ...

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Re: PUG EXtra - PDML Photo Annual Refuses Gallery is live!

2011-05-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brian,
Thanks for pulling this together, and thanks for having the idea to share these.
And thanks Stan for the kind comment.
I always feel bad when a shot doesn't make it into the annual.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 On May 20, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 G'day' all.

 Some really impressive work here - a top gallery!

 http://pug.komkon.org/

 Note: If you see the previous gallery when you visit that link, you
 probably need to refresh the page in your browser.

 By the way, at the bottom of the index page are links to Mark's PDML
 Annual page (where you can find links to the 2011 Annual's photos and
 photographers) and to the Blurb page (if you haven't ordered your copy
 yet.).


 Thank you for putting this together Brian. These images emphasize the hard 
 choices Mark needs to make when he edits the Annual. The two opening shots by 
 Bob Sullivan are superb, and the quality is maintained throughout. An 
 impressive collection. If I were the editor I would probably just keep adding 
 pages rather than leave any of these out.

 stan
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PAW--Week 20--Rabbit with Nut

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila

I'll be gone for a few days, but back end of week.  Cheers, Christine

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Re: Subject: Re: Essential Kit

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: steve harley

On 2011-05-20 12:45 , John Sessoms wrote:

 Does the camera produce a separate JPEG to display on the LCD when
 you're shooting with the camera's file format set to JPEG?

no, it only produces the files you can see on the card



In other threads I've read that when you're shooting RAW, the camera 
produces a JPEG for the LCD; that you're always viewing a JPEG on the LCD.


Is that JPEG somehow stored inside the PEF file or does the camera 
create the JPEG on the fly every time you use the LCD to view an image 
irregardless the format you're shooting?


Or something different altogether?

I do know when you shoot RAW+JPEG you get two separate files on the card.


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RE: PESO: Fresh Strawberries

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jack Davis


Bit of Americana in California's Sacramento Valley.
Came across this unprepared. Only had the DA55~300 with me and tried
to make it do. Missing just about half a V. ;)
This located on the edge of town at an intersection of two well used
farm-to-market roads. Planting activity extremely high right now.

Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=601


It's fine with me, but since you mention the missing half letter, I 
wonder if you couldn't have backed up a couple of steps to achieve the 
framing you wanted?



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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread mike wilson

On 21/05/2011 12:55, Bob W wrote:

Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
the International Date Line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto



Looks like we're safe.  The neighbour gets to keep his Merc.  Again.

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Re: Peso Norman

2011-05-21 Thread Ken Waller

Love the look you caught.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Peso Norman



Norman is getting old an crusty.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13152252

Its a bit soft, she can move faster than the K10D AF.:-)

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RE: PESO: Fresh Strawberries

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
I actually wondered the same thing at the time. I was, however, sitting very 
near the edge of a busy road and roadway and feeling only lukewarm about the 
scene. That's my flimsy excuse, John.
Thanks for commenting!

Jack ;)

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 Subject: RE: PESO: Fresh Strawberries
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 9:44 AM
 From: Jack Davis
 
  Bit of Americana in California's Sacramento Valley.
  Came across this unprepared. Only had the DA55~300
 with me and tried
  to make it do. Missing just about half a V. ;)
  This located on the edge of town at an intersection of
 two well used
  farm-to-market roads. Planting activity extremely high
 right now.
 
  Comments?
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=601
 
 It's fine with me, but since you mention the missing half
 letter, I 
 wonder if you couldn't have backed up a couple of steps to
 achieve the 
 framing you wanted?
 
 
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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread mike wilson

On 21/05/2011 14:35, Christine Aguila wrote:


- Original Message - From: Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info


From the above you probably have gathered that I strongly endorse C's
suggestion. In more specific support I offer the following:
a. For the collaborators who are interested, I will commit to
editing/publishing the first 4-5 photo essays produced thorough such
collaborations; I am imagining a Blurb book with 10-20 pages per
essay. If/when such a work is produced, a free copy to all
contributors, any profits to the Dana-Farber organization.


WOW! That's a very generous offer, Stan. Bob W., Christine from Boston,
and I are chewing on the beach topic. If they want to take you up on
your offer, I'm game! Cheers, Christine


If you make it coast rather than beach, I might be in for that one.






b. Inspired by some of the industrial images posted by PDMLers, i
have been planning a small series of photos of active and decaying
midwestern silos and feed mills. I would love to try and work up a
collaborative photo essay on such a theme. I also stand ready to join
in if anyone has an alternate idea they would like to pursue. (Except
beaches, Christine. Not my thing.)

Lets try out this notion of collaborative photo projects and see where
we can get with it!








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PESO: Spring Chores

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
California version of a Robin doing its spring thing. I'm very lucky to have 
been within 'prox 40 ft watching her collect that load of my dead grass. 
Guessed she might take it to the top of the fence for a moment before heading 
to the job site. 
I wonder really how well she can see. Bless her!

Comments appreciated!

Jack

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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
Before I joined PDML, I used to participate in a Usenet discussion group 
alt.binaries.photo.original.


One of the things that group did was engage in Challenges. Anyone 
could post a challenge, and anyone else could post an image in response 
to the challenge. Some of the challenges I remember were yellow and 
song title.


It might be possible to make this work similar to the a.b.p.o challenge. 
Anyone who has an idea they'd like to collaborate on can post their 
challenge to the list and anyone on the list can opt in to the 
challenges they find interesting.


Because a.b.p.o was a binaries group on usenet, it was possible to post 
the challenge images directly to the group. That would not work for 
PDML, but I think we could find a work-around.


I know Flickr has a way to organize groups so that members of the group 
can post to common page (?), although I don't know how it works ... 
haven't needed to know before now. I'll have to take a look at how 
Flickr groups work and get back to y'all on that.


But it might be possible to create a PDML Collaborative Group on 
Flickr or one of the other free image hosting sites to organize the 
postings by theme.



From: Stan Halpin


I have quoted Christine's original post in full below for those who missed it 
the first time.

I think Christine has an inspired idea that could allow PDMLers to take their 
work in a new
direction. We have had the themed PUG for many many years, and as Doug notes in 
his
Introduction to this year's PDML Annual, the PUG has been an important element 
of our
identity as a group, taking us beyond random chatter to a more fundamental 
sharing process.
(Doug, my apologies for mangling your thoughts and words with this rough 
paraphrase.) We
have had instances where multiple PDMLers have shared images of a common event 
(e.g., PDML
gatherings, GFM) But always we have seen a collection of single images. We have 
seen
portfolios and photo essays from individuals (Bob W. and Christine's work comes 
to mind.)
But I cannot recall a previous suggestion for a collaborative process like the 
one C has
suggested.

C was inspired by a particular body of work which focused on relatively mundane 
day-to-day
activities: tending gardens, eating dinner, going to church, buying 
gasoline/petrol, getting
married . . . But there is no reason this collaboration notion could not 
encompass any
photographic subject. Macros of flowers? Wide angle landscapes? Backyard 
wildlife? Product
photography of grocery-store food items in different countries? The particular 
topic is
irrelevant as long as it inspires two or more list members to decide to work 
together to try
and reflect their shared vision of something. Dan, for example, has an ongoing 
project on
roadside diners. There must be someone on the List who has seen those and 
thought about the
parallels and differences in common eating places in their own countries?


From the above you probably have gathered that I strongly endorse C's 
suggestion. In more

specific support I offer the following:
a. For the collaborators who are interested, I will commit to 
editing/publishing the first
4-5 photo essays produced thorough such collaborations; I am imagining a Blurb 
book with
10-20 pages per essay. If/when such a work is produced, a free copy to all 
contributors, any
profits to the Dana-Farber organization.
b. Inspired by some of the industrial images posted by PDMLers, i have been 
planning a
small series of photos of active and decaying midwestern silos and feed mills. 
I would love
to try and work up a collaborative photo essay on such a theme. I also stand 
ready to join
in if anyone has an alternate idea they would like to pursue. (Except beaches, 
Christine.
Not my thing.)

Lets try out this notion of collaborative photo projects and see where we can 
get with it!

stan

On May 18, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

I just finished F. Jack Hurley's book, Portrait of a Decade:  Roy Stryker
and the Development of Documentary Photography in the Thirties.  Many of you
have probably read this, but if not, you should be able to find it in your
local library or secure a used copy via bookfinder or amazon.

At 175 pages, the book provides a nice broad look at Roy Stryker's life, his
years studying and teaching economics, his working relationship with Rexford
Tugwell, and, of course, his leadership at the Farm Security Administration
(FSA).  All fascinating stuff!  You won't be disappointed--I promise!

The book has inspired an idea that might be of interest to PDML list
members.  In 1936, Stryker began to broaden the FSA projects to include
photographic documentation or rural, small-town, and urban life (as opposed
to poverty in agricultural communities).  According to Hurley, Stryker used
questions to give focused direction and purpose to the photographers' field
work--to illustrate:  What do people do at home in the evenings?  Do the
activities in a small town differ from those 

Re: Godders in NY

2011-05-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Dinner was indeed spectacular ... !

Two of my favorite cousins met up with us at Joe's studio after
dinner, which incited another couple of hours of hilarity and drinks
at the local pub too.  ]'-)  I was fairly dead by the time we returned
home and immediately crashed out.

Oh yes, to return this to a more photographic bent, the fabulous new
bag did a superb job: not a trace of anything in it getting wet after
our hours of slogging through the rain and drizzle. And I did get some
other fun photos while in the city ... I'll pop a few up to the same
gallery in a little bit.

All in all a brilliant day. If moist.
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RE: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Sandy Harris


I am a regular on a forum for foreigners in China. It had a
long discussion of some of the odd English seen on T-shirts
here. http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=5380.0

Many of the posts were illustrated with photos. Quite a
few might have embarrassed the subjects. Many were
university-age women wearing things like Slut #69,
of course without a clue what the English meant.


From there, another discussion has spun off in a thread

titled Ethical photography. It might interest some here.
http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=6397.0


Seems to me there are a lot of people out there with cameras who are not 
actually photographers.


In some ways it is the concern for ethical behavior that distinguishes 
the photographer from the person with a camera.



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RE: Essential Kit

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W


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 Interesting.  How's the chicken salad at the KGB canteen?

the swan flies to Minsk at midnight.




The pearl is in the liver.


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Colour outside the lines

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
I haven't done much photography this year for one reason and another. The
last couple of days though I've been snapping away though. The first 7 here
are new:

http://www.web-options.com/Recent/

Comments welcome. 

Probably.

B


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RE: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W


Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
the International Date Line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto


I wish they'd just go ahead and drink the Kookade and get it over with.


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Re: Colour outside the lines

2011-05-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 I haven't done much photography this year for one reason and another. The
 last couple of days though I've been snapping away though. The first 7 here
 are new:

 http://www.web-options.com/Recent/

 Comments welcome.

 Probably.

All excellent. I particularly like the lamp at Greenwich. Thanks for posting!

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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
FWIW, I ordered a copy of the book from a used book site on the 
internet. Got an email from them a few minutes ago that it had shipped.



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Re: PAW--Week 20--Rabbit with Nut

2011-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Looks like Dan Akroid ...

(ann ducks)

Christine Aguila wrote:


I'll be gone for a few days, but back end of week.  Cheers, Christine

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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
I'm sure that it has. Anyone who wasn't raptured into heaven by now is 
one of the sinners left behind.


Which, interestingly enough, appears to include Mr. Camping and his 
adherents.


From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


Did the world end yet? I haven't checked my clock ...

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 Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
 the International Date Line.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto




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RE: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 mike wilson
[...]
 
 If you make it coast rather than beach, I might be in for that one.
 

Nick Crane, if we were to ask him, would surely tell us that there is no
clear distinction between coast and beach. At the moment I am defining
'beach' as the natural bit where the land meets the water. That definition
may change as I firm up on some actual photographs.

B


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A couple of PESOs

2011-05-21 Thread Larry Colen
Eye exams for the blinds
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5743795050/in/set-72157626647707757/

Eight eyes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5741286611/in/set-72157626643301975/
(and legs)

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PESO - Kayak and Sailboat

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
Finally, after what feels like a month of rain and cold, today broke
warm and sunny (actually, it ~feels~ hot out today!).

The Lake was calm and the sun was beautiful in the morning.  I caught
this photo that rather reflected the day:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/kayak-and-sailboat.html

It's about time!

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Subject: Re: Essential Kit

2011-05-21 Thread John Francis
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:37:45PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:

 In other threads I've read that when you're shooting RAW, the camera
 produces a JPEG for the LCD; that you're always viewing a JPEG on
 the LCD.

 Is that JPEG somehow stored inside the PEF file or does the camera
 create the JPEG on the fly every time you use the LCD to view an
 image irregardless the format you're shooting?

It's stored in the PEF file (and in a JPEG file, and in a DNG file, 
and on the *ist-D it was stored in the TIFF file as well). That's in
addition to the small thumbnail JPEG image that is probably used for
the usual LCD display; the extra JPEG is used when viewing zoomed-in.
 
The camera review software doesn't want to have to deal with all the
different formats, or spend the time necessary to read all the data
back from the card, convert them to JPEG, downsample appropriately,
and display - that would make image review unbearably slow.

 I do know when you shoot RAW+JPEG you get two separate files on the card.

Yep.  And each of those contains a small thumbnail image and a low-
quality full-resolution JPEG. 


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Re: PESO - The Red Umbrella

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The second one for me.  I found the telephone pole/street lights a bit 
 jarring.

Well, thanks to everyone for the comments.  I'm not sure which one I
like;  they're like two different photos, so it's hard for me to
choose.

Oh well, the rain's over, so on to sunnier topics.

;-)

Thanks again,
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Re: PAW--Week 20--Rabbit with Nut

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila
christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 I'll be gone for a few days, but back end of week.  Cheers, Christine

 http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

Ha!  I like that one.

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Re: PESO: Spring Chores

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 California version of a Robin doing its spring thing. I'm very lucky to have 
 been within 'prox 40 ft watching her collect that load of my dead grass. 
 Guessed she might take it to the top of the fence for a moment before heading 
 to the job site.
 I wonder really how well she can see. Bless her!

 Comments appreciated!

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=602

 K5, DA55~300@300mm, f/7.1, 1/2500, ISO 1600, very heavy crop.

Light is beautiful!  Looks a bit harsh to me, maybe a tad oversharpened?

Nice composition and subject.  A moment well-caught.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Riding the Waves

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/riding-waves.html


 That's a nice scene, Frank.  Having tried shooting waves, I appreciate the
 difficulties--good job here.  Cheers, Christine

The tough part was getting the timing down with both the waves and the
gulls at the same time.  Glad you liked it.

Thanks to all who commented.

cheers,
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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread John Francis
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 06:01:32PM +0200, mike wilson wrote:
 On 21/05/2011 12:55, Bob W wrote:
 Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
 the International Date Line.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto
 
 
 Looks like we're safe.  The neighbour gets to keep his Merc.  Again.

Not yet - it's scheduled for 6:00pm pacific time, according to the
folks making the prediction (a local loony-tunes outfit just across
the bay from where I sit).


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Re: PESO: Spring Chores

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Frank! She is facing directly into a bright (harsh?) early AM sun which 
is lighting up the nest material as though it were electric. I had reduced 
highlights with the color curves tool and applied my usual slightly 
conservative amount of sharpening.(?)

Jack



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 Subject: Re: PESO: Spring Chores
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:49 AM
 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Jack
 Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  California version of a Robin doing its spring thing.
 I'm very lucky to have been within 'prox 40 ft watching her
 collect that load of my dead grass. Guessed she might take
 it to the top of the fence for a moment before heading to
 the job site.
  I wonder really how well she can see. Bless her!
 
  Comments appreciated!
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=602
 
  K5, DA55~300@300mm, f/7.1, 1/2500, ISO 1600, very
 heavy crop.
 
 Light is beautiful!  Looks a bit harsh to me, maybe a
 tad oversharpened?
 
 Nice composition and subject.  A moment well-caught.
 
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Re: PESO - Kayak and Sailboat

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Serene scene on a beautiful morning. Bright day! Light does have a distinct 
cyan look.

Jack 

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 Subject: PESO - Kayak and Sailboat
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:41 AM
 Finally, after what feels like a
 month of rain and cold, today broke
 warm and sunny (actually, it ~feels~ hot out today!).
 
 The Lake was calm and the sun was beautiful in the
 morning.  I caught
 this photo that rather reflected the day:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/kayak-and-sailboat.html
 
 It's about time!
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Stan Halpin

On May 21, 2011, at 1:26 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 Before I joined PDML, I used to participate in a Usenet discussion group 
 alt.binaries.photo.original.
 
 One of the things that group did was engage in Challenges. Anyone could 
 post a challenge, and anyone else could post an image in response to the 
 challenge. Some of the challenges I remember were yellow and song title.
 
 It might be possible to make this work similar to the a.b.p.o challenge. 
 Anyone who has an idea they'd like to collaborate on can post their challenge 
 to the list and anyone on the list can opt in to the challenges they find 
 interesting.
 
 Because a.b.p.o was a binaries group on usenet, it was possible to post the 
 challenge images directly to the group. That would not work for PDML, but I 
 think we could find a work-around.
 
 I know Flickr has a way to organize groups so that members of the group can 
 post to common page (?), although I don't know how it works ... haven't 
 needed to know before now. I'll have to take a look at how Flickr groups work 
 and get back to y'all on that.
 
 But it might be possible to create a PDML Collaborative Group on Flickr or 
 one of the other free image hosting sites to organize the postings by theme.
 
Interesting notion John, like a cross between the PUG themes and Larry's 
scavenger hunts. However, I think it misses the element of collaboration. 
Working together. It might inspire individuals to work in parallel, and you 
could get a nice collection of individual images around a common theme, but it 
is still a bunch of individuals each doing their own thing. What I took 
Christine's idea to be was a call for collaboration, for working together on 
projects. At least in my understanding of the idea, that would mean a handful 
(2-5) from PDML would first agree on a general topic. Beach maybe. There would 
be some initial negotiation to define the limits of the topic. Does Beach 
include Shore? As I write this, a bunch of kayakers floated down the river past 
my window; would photos of such activity fit within a Beach theme? That would 
need to be worked out among, and agreed to by, the members of the work group. 
It might be that they original author (Christine in this case) of the Beach 
topic could be the final arbiter  on the meaning, focus, scope of the theme. 
Once the group composition is pretty well settled and the scope of the project 
decided, then the collaborators would go off in a corner and huddle. OK, so it 
is a virtual corner, a virtual huddle; same difference. They would work out 
their ground rules for  how to collaborate, e.g., email everything back and 
forth to all in the work group? Does the putative leader serve as the central 
node? Do they set up a private Facebook or Posterous group as a shared space? 
They would proceed with their photography, sharing interim products with 
one-another, brainstorming suggestions on extending and/or refining the topic, 
in the process developing a script of sorts for the essay they are working on 
together. At some point they have enough content, they edit the content into a 
photo essay, and put it in a gallery someplace where all can admire and 
critique.

For me, the exciting aspect of what I think I heard from Christine is the 
notion of collaboration. In my professional life most of my work was in 
collaboration with others, whether it was defining research issues, planning 
and executing projects, preparing presentations, or writing articles and books. 
Christine's idea for me served as a jumping off place to think about how 
collaboration might be possible in this domain as well.

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Re: Colour outside the lines

2011-05-21 Thread mike wilson

On 21/05/2011 19:55, Bob W wrote:

I haven't done much photography this year for one reason and another. The
last couple of days though I've been snapping away though. The first 7 here
are new:

http://www.web-options.com/Recent/

Comments welcome.

Probably.


Not a comment but a question.  What did you do to number 6? (No Prisoner 
puns, please)  Looks like pre-war Kodachrome.


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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread mike wilson

On 21/05/2011 21:08, John Francis wrote:

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 06:01:32PM +0200, mike wilson wrote:

On 21/05/2011 12:55, Bob W wrote:

Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by moving
the International Date Line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto



Looks like we're safe.  The neighbour gets to keep his Merc.  Again.


Not yet - it's scheduled for 6:00pm pacific time, according to the
folks making the prediction (a local loony-tunes outfit just across
the bay from where I sit).


How parochial.

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Re: PESO: Spring Chores

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks, Frank! She is facing directly into a bright (harsh?) early AM sun 
 which is lighting up the nest material as though it were electric. I had 
 reduced highlights with the color curves tool and applied my usual slightly 
 conservative amount of sharpening.(?)

I'm now on another computer and things look a lot better.  I guess
it's just my lousy monitor.

;-)

The oversharpened look is gone.

Now I can see that it's a lovely photo.

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Re: PESO: Fresh Strawberries

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Bit of Americana in California's Sacramento Valley.
 Came across this unprepared. Only had the DA55~300 with me and tried to make 
 it do. Missing just about half a V. ;)
 This located on the edge of town at an intersection of two well used 
 farm-to-market roads. Planting activity extremely high right now.

A real slice of Americana (in this case, North Americana as we have
similar stalls up here, though strawberries are many months off).
Beautifully composed and the exposure is spot-on with those shadows.

Terrific!

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Re: PESO - Moist

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 That's an intriguing picture, Frank.  On my monitor it almost looks like the
 tulip is iced--kind of cool, really.  Cheers, Christine

Thanks, Christine.  It was cool last weekend, but not quite icy.

;-)

Glad you liked it.  Thanks for looking, and thanks to everyone else who looked.

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Re: PESO - Moist

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Interesting bw but it would be interesting to see it in color to compare
 the two against each other.

The tulip was yellow, and in the rain a rather bland yellow at that.
Believe me, it's ~much~ more interesting to my eye in monochrome!

Thanks for looking and commenting.

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Re: Tourist for a day

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 I did some touristy things in London yesterday. Here are some snaps,
 displayed in the spirit of the day as Flash postcards, so if you don't like
 Flash you won't like this:
 http://www.web-options.com/Hayseeds/

I like flash, but my computer doesn't.  Finally got to a flashy
'puter, and I like these very much, including the presentation.

Touristy, perhaps, but fun and (to a non-Londoner) interesting.

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Re: PAW71 - On track

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:09 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K-5, DA*16-50mm@16, 1/400s, f/5.6, ISO100

Lovely!!

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Re: A couple of PESOs

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Eye exams for the blinds
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5743795050/in/set-72157626647707757/

Funny!


 Eight eyes:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5741286611/in/set-72157626643301975/
 (and legs)

Reminds me of the wife - not that she looks like that (she's a biped
like the rest of us) but sometimes it feels like she's got 8 eyes.
She always seems to know what I'm up to!

;-)

(Judy, if you're reading, I'm only joking!)

That's a very sharp macro, Larry!

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RE: Colour outside the lines

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 mike wilson

 
 On 21/05/2011 19:55, Bob W wrote:
  I haven't done much photography this year for one reason and another.
 The
  last couple of days though I've been snapping away though. The first
 7 here
  are new:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/Recent/
 
  Comments welcome.
 
  Probably.
 
 Not a comment but a question.  What did you do to number 6? (No
 Prisoner
 puns, please)  Looks like pre-war Kodachrome.

I fiddled with the clarity, luminescence (?) and saturation sliders in
Lightroom.

B


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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 Not yet - it's scheduled for 6:00pm pacific time, according to the
 folks making the prediction (a local loony-tunes outfit just across
 the bay from where I sit).

What's that, 9:00pm Eastern?  5 hours left.  Going out to take pix.

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Re: PESO 2011 - 077 - GDG

2011-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Another new addition to the Communicating series:

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5722711256/lightbox/

 Thanks for looking, comments appreciated.

Cool.

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Re: Peso Norman

2011-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Agree with Ken -
lovely shot , Dave!

ann

Ken Waller wrote:


Love the look you caught.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Subject: Peso Norman



Norman is getting old an crusty.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13152252

Its a bit soft, she can move faster than the K10D AF.:-)

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Re: PESO: Spring Chores

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Very considerate message, Frank!

Jack

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 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Spring Chores
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 12:34 PM
 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Jack
 Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Thanks, Frank! She is facing directly into a bright
 (harsh?) early AM sun which is lighting up the nest material
 as though it were electric. I had reduced highlights with
 the color curves tool and applied my usual slightly
 conservative amount of sharpening.(?)
 
 I'm now on another computer and things look a lot
 better.  I guess
 it's just my lousy monitor.
 
 ;-)
 
 The oversharpened look is gone.
 
 Now I can see that it's a lovely photo.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
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Re: PESO: Fresh Strawberries

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
I like your monitor very much! ;)
Thanks you!

Jack

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 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Fresh Strawberries
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 12:36 PM
 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Jack
 Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Bit of Americana in California's Sacramento Valley.
  Came across this unprepared. Only had the DA55~300
 with me and tried to make it do. Missing just about half a
 V. ;)
  This located on the edge of town at an intersection of
 two well used farm-to-market roads. Planting activity
 extremely high right now.
 
 A real slice of Americana (in this case, North Americana
 as we have
 similar stalls up here, though strawberries are many months
 off).
 Beautifully composed and the exposure is spot-on with those
 shadows.
 
 Terrific!
 
 cheers,
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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele



John Sessoms wrote:

Before I joined PDML, I used to participate in a Usenet discussion 
group alt.binaries.photo.original.


One of the things that group did was engage in Challenges. Anyone 
could post a challenge, and anyone else could post an image in 
response to the challenge. Some of the challenges I remember were 
yellow and song title.


It might be possible to make this work similar to the a.b.p.o 
challenge. Anyone who has an idea they'd like to collaborate on can 
post their challenge to the list and anyone on the list can opt in to 
the challenges they find interesting. 


and we could call it the PUG!  ;-)

For those on smugmug  there is an every-two-week CHALLENGE on smugmug 
on the dgrin forum and with yummy prizes.., judges  and voting..


high quality technically always, and photoshopping to the extreme not 
forbidden unless stated - and sort of tiered so that
the winners of the short rounds get into the finals, etc...   Winner of 
previous round is obliged to be one of the judges on the
next challenge.I only tried that once or twice  - when by chance I 
had already taken something that fit the current theme

in the time slot necessary.

I have to say I'm not into this assignment like stuff at all... too much 
like work. which is why almost all of my PUG entries
are often at the very least a few months old, if not 30 years.   Except 
for casual snaps , like of  Godders during our visit .  
The themes in my stuff comes after I shoot, usually.   So having to 
decided up front to take photos of such and such a thing
pretty much takes all the fun out of it for me.  

Now that may seem at odds with my wanting to do a critters book, but 
really, I'm not taking photos of beasties to make a book,
just observed that I had a lot already that might be gathered into same. 
Still, the scut work is tedious and difficult for someone
with my lack of skills on the keyboard.  


Have fun, kids... it will be nice to look at the results.

ann



Because a.b.p.o was a binaries group on usenet, it was possible to 
post the challenge images directly to the group. That would not work 
for PDML, but I think we could find a work-around.


I know Flickr has a way to organize groups so that members of the 
group can post to common page (?), although I don't know how it 
works ... haven't needed to know before now. I'll have to take a look 
at how Flickr groups work and get back to y'all on that.


But it might be possible to create a PDML Collaborative Group on 
Flickr or one of the other free image hosting sites to organize the 
postings by theme.



From: Stan Halpin

I have quoted Christine's original post in full below for those who 
missed it the first time.


I think Christine has an inspired idea that could allow PDMLers to 
take their work in a new
direction. We have had the themed PUG for many many years, and as 
Doug notes in his
Introduction to this year's PDML Annual, the PUG has been an 
important element of our
identity as a group, taking us beyond random chatter to a more 
fundamental sharing process.
(Doug, my apologies for mangling your thoughts and words with this 
rough paraphrase.) We
have had instances where multiple PDMLers have shared images of a 
common event (e.g., PDML
gatherings, GFM) But always we have seen a collection of single 
images. We have seen
portfolios and photo essays from individuals (Bob W. and Christine's 
work comes to mind.)
But I cannot recall a previous suggestion for a collaborative process 
like the one C has

suggested.

C was inspired by a particular body of work which focused on 
relatively mundane day-to-day
activities: tending gardens, eating dinner, going to church, buying 
gasoline/petrol, getting
married . . . But there is no reason this collaboration notion could 
not encompass any
photographic subject. Macros of flowers? Wide angle landscapes? 
Backyard wildlife? Product
photography of grocery-store food items in different countries? The 
particular topic is
irrelevant as long as it inspires two or more list members to decide 
to work together to try
and reflect their shared vision of something. Dan, for example, has 
an ongoing project on
roadside diners. There must be someone on the List who has seen those 
and thought about the
parallels and differences in common eating places in their own 
countries?


From the above you probably have gathered that I strongly endorse 
C's suggestion. In more


specific support I offer the following:
a. For the collaborators who are interested, I will commit to 
editing/publishing the first
4-5 photo essays produced thorough such collaborations; I am 
imagining a Blurb book with
10-20 pages per essay. If/when such a work is produced, a free copy 
to all contributors, any

profits to the Dana-Farber organization.
b. Inspired by some of the industrial images posted by PDMLers, i 
have been planning a
small series of photos of active and decaying midwestern silos and 
feed mills. I would love
to try and work up a 

RE: Tourist for a day

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 frank theriault
  I did some touristy things in London yesterday. Here are some snaps,
  displayed in the spirit of the day as Flash postcards, so if you
 don't like
  Flash you won't like this:
  http://www.web-options.com/Hayseeds/
 
 I like flash, but my computer doesn't.  Finally got to a flashy
 'puter, and I like these very much, including the presentation.
 
 Touristy, perhaps, but fun and (to a non-Londoner) interesting.
 

ta, guv.

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RE: Colour outside the lines

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
 Godfrey DiGiorgi

  I haven't done much photography this year for one reason and another.
 The
  last couple of days though I've been snapping away though. The first
 7 here
  are new:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/Recent/
 
  Comments welcome.
 
  Probably.
 
 All excellent. I particularly like the lamp at Greenwich. Thanks for
 posting!

Ta!

B


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Re: PESO: Spring Chores

2011-05-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice timing and a great catch!  Very good image overall.

Dan

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 California version of a Robin doing its spring thing. I'm very lucky to have 
 been within 'prox 40 ft watching her collect that load of my dead grass. 
 Guessed she might take it to the top of the fence for a moment before heading 
 to the job site.
 I wonder really how well she can see. Bless her!

 Comments appreciated!

 Jack

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Re: PESO: Fresh Strawberries

2011-05-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The smaller sign indicates that they also sell balckberries.

Dan

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Jack Davis

 Bit of Americana in California's Sacramento Valley.
 Came across this unprepared. Only had the DA55~300 with me and tried
 to make it do. Missing just about half a V. ;)
 This located on the edge of town at an intersection of two well used
 farm-to-market roads. Planting activity extremely high right now.

 Comments?

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=601

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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele



John Sessoms wrote:


From: Bob W

Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by 
moving

the International Date Line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto



I wish they'd just go ahead and drink the Kookade and get it over with. 


LOL!  
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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele

and then there is defining son of a beach...

ann

Bob W wrote:


From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
mike wilson
   


[...]
 


If you make it coast rather than beach, I might be in for that one.

   



Nick Crane, if we were to ask him, would surely tell us that there is no
clear distinction between coast and beach. At the moment I am defining
'beach' as the natural bit where the land meets the water. That definition
may change as I firm up on some actual photographs.

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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread John Francis
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 03:59:41PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 
  Not yet - it's scheduled for 6:00pm pacific time, according to the
  folks making the prediction (a local loony-tunes outfit just across
  the bay from where I sit).
 
 What's that, 9:00pm Eastern?  5 hours left.  Going out to take pix.

Plenty of time for that - it's supposed to start with an enormous
earthquake in New Zealand, and the destruction will spread around
the world from there.  That would give you at least until midnight.

If I were into people photography I'd reckon that heading over to
the church compound in Oakland might yield a few dividends.
Not that I'd be able to get anwhere inside the compound - it's got
more (and nastier) fencing around it than most prisons - but I'm
sure there will be quite a bit going on outside.


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Re: PESO: Spring Chores

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Nice to read, Dan! Thank you!

Jack

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 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Spring Chores
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 2:01 PM
 Nice timing and a great catch! 
 Very good image overall.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  California version of a Robin doing its spring thing.
 I'm very lucky to have been within 'prox 40 ft watching her
 collect that load of my dead grass. Guessed she might take
 it to the top of the fence for a moment before heading to
 the job site.
  I wonder really how well she can see. Bless her!
 
  Comments appreciated!
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=602
 
  K5, DA55~300@300mm, f/7.1, 1/2500, ISO 1600, very
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Re: PESO: Fresh Strawberries

2011-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, I know, Dan! They're extra good this year..;))

Jack

--- On Sat, 5/21/11, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Fresh Strawberries
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 2:04 PM
 The smaller sign indicates that they
 also sell balckberries.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:
  From: Jack Davis
 
  Bit of Americana in California's Sacramento
 Valley.
  Came across this unprepared. Only had the DA55~300
 with me and tried
  to make it do. Missing just about half a V. ;)
  This located on the edge of town at an
 intersection of two well used
  farm-to-market roads. Planting activity extremely
 high right now.
 
  Comments?
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=601
 
 Dan Matyola
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RE: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
I was thinking of calling it Some Beach...


 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Ann Sanfedele
 
 and then there is defining son of a beach...
 
 ann
 
 Bob W wrote:
 
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
 Of
 mike wilson
 
 
 [...]
 
 
 If you make it coast rather than beach, I might be in for that one.
 
 
 
 
 Nick Crane, if we were to ask him, would surely tell us that there is
 no
 clear distinction between coast and beach. At the moment I am defining
 'beach' as the natural bit where the land meets the water. That
 definition
 may change as I firm up on some actual photographs.
 
 B



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Re: A couple of PESOs

2011-05-21 Thread Larry Colen

On May 21, 2011, at 12:57 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Eye exams for the blinds
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5743795050/in/set-72157626647707757/
 
 Funny!
 
 
 Eight eyes:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5741286611/in/set-72157626643301975/
 (and legs)
 
 Reminds me of the wife - not that she looks like that (she's a biped
 like the rest of us) but sometimes it feels like she's got 8 eyes.
 She always seems to know what I'm up to!

Does she spend all of her time on the web?

 
 ;-)
 
 (Judy, if you're reading, I'm only joking!)
 
 That's a very sharp macro, Larry!

Thanks.  One of these days Sasha is going to ask for his lens back, and I'll be 
very bummed.


 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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RE: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
  Not long to go now. I wonder if we could make the day last forever by
 moving
  the International Date Line.
 
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OThg0GNto
 
 
 Looks like we're safe.  The neighbour gets to keep his Merc.  Again.
 

it's started:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13487858

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Re: Colour outside the lines

2011-05-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/5/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I haven't done much photography this year for one reason and another. The
last couple of days though I've been snapping away though. The first 7 here
are new:

This one is superb.

http://www.web-options.com/Recent/content/L1000101_large.html

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Re: OT: Hot date

2011-05-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/5/11, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

it's scheduled for 6:00pm pacific time, according to the
folks making the prediction

That'll be 2am on Sunday morning for us. If we don't make it through the
night, can someone please remind me in the morning? Cheers.

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Re: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion

2011-05-21 Thread Ken Waller
Seems to me there are a lot of people out there with cameras who are not 
actually photographers.


Oh MARK !


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

Subject: RE: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion



From: Sandy Harris


I am a regular on a forum for foreigners in China. It had a
long discussion of some of the odd English seen on T-shirts
here. http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=5380.0

Many of the posts were illustrated with photos. Quite a
few might have embarrassed the subjects. Many were
university-age women wearing things like Slut #69,
of course without a clue what the English meant.


From there, another discussion has spun off in a thread

titled Ethical photography. It might interest some here.
http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=6397.0


Seems to me there are a lot of people out there with cameras who are not 
actually photographers.


In some ways it is the concern for ethical behavior that distinguishes 
the photographer from the person with a camera.



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Re: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion

2011-05-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Funny.  I was about to Mark the comment after that.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Seems to me there are a lot of people out there with cameras who are not
 actually photographers.

 Oh MARK !


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 - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: RE: (yet another) Ethics of photography discussion


 From: Sandy Harris

 I am a regular on a forum for foreigners in China. It had a
 long discussion of some of the odd English seen on T-shirts
 here. http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=5380.0

 Many of the posts were illustrated with photos. Quite a
 few might have embarrassed the subjects. Many were
 university-age women wearing things like Slut #69,
 of course without a clue what the English meant.

 From there, another discussion has spun off in a thread

 titled Ethical photography. It might interest some here.
 http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=6397.0

 Seems to me there are a lot of people out there with cameras who are not
 actually photographers.

 In some ways it is the concern for ethical behavior that distinguishes the
 photographer from the person with a camera.


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Last Call for Beach Project

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Today is 5/21.  Bob, Christine from Boston,  possibly Mike Wilson have 
formed a group for the Beach topic.  If anyone else would like to join, let 
Christine from Chicago know by noon, 5/23.


Resumes and CVs received after said date will not be considered :-)))

Cheers, Christine 



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RE: Colour outside the lines

2011-05-21 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Cotty

 I haven't done much photography this year for one reason and another.
 The
 last couple of days though I've been snapping away though. The first 7
 here
 are new:
 
 This one is superb.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Recent/content/L1000101_large.html
 

Thanks. 

Someone took pictures of me today. I was sitting outside the café in Island
Gardens, eating an ice cream when I noticed someone taking snaps of me.
Cheeky sod, I thought. When he'd wandered off I went over to where he'd
stood and looked at the frame. Crap shot.

B


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Re: idea for a pdml photography project

2011-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila


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If you make it coast rather than beach, I might be in for that one.


Check your off list email, Mike.  Cheers, Christine

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