Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D
DUnno if this has been posted yet. In japanese but pictures needs no translation. Most interesting are the 3 links Astrotracer etc near the bottom. http://www.pentax.jp/japan/products/o-gps1/ 2011/6/2 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Well, well. They were clearly reading our little GPS thread ... Mounted on the hot shoe of select PENTAX digital SLR cameras,* the O-GPS1 unit records latitude, longitude, altitude, and universal time coordinated (UTC) of shooting locations with captured images. Image files with this GPS data may be used to track shooting locations and review location data on a personal computing device. http://goo.gl/qH4o6 They must have hacked the hotshoe interface to handle serial I/O from the GPS. I suppose the hotshoe already talks to the flash serially, so they have added the GPS as a serial device distinct from a flash. Clever! I don't recall any of us coming up with that solution. A mere $249 US. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Leslie
Googled Joel Grimes, I didn't see his work before. Your shot is also excellent, you friend must be proud with this portrait. On 4 June 2011 05:48, tim...@clancode.hu wrote: Hi, My friend, Leslie: http://15kb.posterous.com/leslie The picture was inspired by the works of Joel Grimes, I kinda tried to reproduce his style. Comments and critique welcomed! .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Hard, Merciless Light
- Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: Re: A Hard, Merciless Light On Jun 3, 2011, at 4:03 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin I cannot see how Dorothea Lange's photos are substantively different from those that illustrate the story, but I guess the point is not the images themselves, but rather the way in which the photographers and editors used those photos in shaping a social narrative. I think the main difference is that the workers are photographing themselves and their own situation, rather than being the passive subjects of someone else's regard. B OK Bob, I can see that. And it raises a large handful of philosophical and/or practical issues about photography. E.g., I wonder if we should accept the assumption that a participant is more likely to recognize key elements of their condition (suffering, poverty, hard work, old age, whatever) and thus is more likely to capture that in an image than an outsider. Or whether an amateur with no preconceptions about art and composition is more likely than a professional to capture good images. There is almost an 18th century argument that the pure natural state is better than the educated/developed one. As someone who documents what she sees with both pen and camera, I'm willing to admit all sorts of socio/economic, political--and gender--assumptions--of the usual western variety-- inform how I see the world and thus document it. In many ways I can't help that, but what I can do is understand how my worldview is shaped and accept the fact that other people's worldviews might be informed with different assumptions, and, knowing this might help me better understand others and their experiences. I'm willing to accept the possibility that an insider might nuance documentation of experience in ways I as an outsider might not be able to--in ways I might not even see. As to the amateur/professional/quality issues Ribalta raises, well, those are tricky ones--we'd really need to agree on working definitions to discuss this, but let's try this argument instead--just for fun :-)--and the argument goes like this: professional artists of all types--sculptors, painters, musicians, dancers, writers, photographers et al--are *made professional* by the artistic standards held by the capital elite who have the assets and power to publish, exhibit, produce, and critique (which leads to acclaim) artistic work. Given this argument, that's what makes the WPM so interesting--proletariat worker photographers setting their own artistic standards--and advancing their own revolutionary agenda to be sure :-)--we can't forget that. And to bring this inclination to modern day, people are trying to use the internet to do the exact same thing :-). Anyway, it was a great interview and fun to consider all the points and arguments Ribalta makes. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D
That Astrotracer is useful for the star gazes, but it's of no use if you're doing landscapes. Cool use of the SR tech though. DS On 4 June 2011 14:37, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: DUnno if this has been posted yet. In japanese but pictures needs no translation. Most interesting are the 3 links Astrotracer etc near the bottom. http://www.pentax.jp/japan/products/o-gps1/ 2011/6/2 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Well, well. They were clearly reading our little GPS thread ... Mounted on the hot shoe of select PENTAX digital SLR cameras,* the O-GPS1 unit records latitude, longitude, altitude, and universal time coordinated (UTC) of shooting locations with captured images. Image files with this GPS data may be used to track shooting locations and review location data on a personal computing device. http://goo.gl/qH4o6 They must have hacked the hotshoe interface to handle serial I/O from the GPS. I suppose the hotshoe already talks to the flash serially, so they have added the GPS as a serial device distinct from a flash. Clever! I don't recall any of us coming up with that solution. A mere $249 US. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D
Too bad there's no 3G module for getting maps at the same time ;) Well, seriously, the module does astrotracer with SR, simple navigation (without map) and electronic compass. 2011/6/4 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com: That Astrotracer is useful for the star gazes, but it's of no use if you're doing landscapes. Cool use of the SR tech though. DS On 4 June 2011 14:37, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: DUnno if this has been posted yet. In japanese but pictures needs no translation. Most interesting are the 3 links Astrotracer etc near the bottom. http://www.pentax.jp/japan/products/o-gps1/ 2011/6/2 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Well, well. They were clearly reading our little GPS thread ... Mounted on the hot shoe of select PENTAX digital SLR cameras,* the O-GPS1 unit records latitude, longitude, altitude, and universal time coordinated (UTC) of shooting locations with captured images. Image files with this GPS data may be used to track shooting locations and review location data on a personal computing device. http://goo.gl/qH4o6 They must have hacked the hotshoe interface to handle serial I/O from the GPS. I suppose the hotshoe already talks to the flash serially, so they have added the GPS as a serial device distinct from a flash. Clever! I don't recall any of us coming up with that solution. A mere $249 US. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: More Stupid Ghosting Software Questions
So, my new SSD is here, but not installed. It turns out that the version of Norton Ghost that I have isn't compatible with Windows7, so I am in the market for new software. I am somewhat less than brand agnostic in this regard, and so am looking for other solutions than Norton Anyway... I found a thing called AcronisR True Image which looks like it will do what I want, and even has a free download so I suppose I can see if it will work before I pay for it. Are there any other drive ghosting solutions out there that I should be considering, or does it even matter and I should just buy the cheapest one? the tech support people at a company I worked for a few years ago used Acronis. Seemed to do those things it ought to do, and not do those things they didn't want it to do. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb Sask Tel's GPS service can usually place my phone within 2200 meters of where I actually am. Worst GPS service ever. sounds like the ideal service for al-Qaeda. It would also give the Americans the excuse they're looking for to carpet-bomb Canada. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Research on what makes an image memorable
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Sandy Harris http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/memorable-images-0524.html that explains why so many people put Ansel Adams pictures on their walls. It's the only way they can recall what they look like. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More Stupid Ghosting Software Questions
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:31 -0600, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: So, my new SSD is here, but not installed. It turns out that the version of Norton Ghost that I have isn't compatible with Windows7, so I am in the market for new software. I am somewhat less than brand agnostic in this regard, and so am looking for other solutions than Norton Anyway... I found a thing called Acronis® True Image which looks like it will do what I want, and even has a free download so I suppose I can see if it will work before I pay for it. Are there any other drive ghosting solutions out there that I should be considering, or does it even matter and I should just buy the cheapest one? I'm not sure if this program will do what you want (Easeus Todo Backup) but it will clone an entire hard drive or partition. The price is certainly acceptable :-) http://dottech.org/freebies/22232/ The reviewer seems to think that Easeus Todo backup compares well with Acronis True Image. I can't comment on either as I haven't used either. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Thanks -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A Hard, Merciless Light
I cannot see how Dorothea Lange's photos are substantively different from those that illustrate the story, but I guess the point is not the images themselves, but rather the way in which the photographers and editors used those photos in shaping a social narrative. I think the main difference is that the workers are photographing themselves and their own situation, rather than being the passive subjects of someone else's regard. B OK Bob, I can see that. And it raises a large handful of philosophical and/or practical issues about photography. E.g., I wonder if we should accept the assumption that a participant is more likely to recognize key elements of their condition (suffering, poverty, hard work, old age, whatever) and thus is more likely to capture that in an image than an outsider. No, not necessarily, but they are at least telling their story in their way. That's what is most important about it. It is also almost certain to give us insights that we couldn't get from somebody who was parachuted in. That doesn't reduce the value or importance of the work of the person parachuted in, it recognises the limits, and provides an additional viewpoint. Or whether an amateur with no preconceptions about art and composition is more likely than a professional to capture good images. Well, it's different, not necessarily better or worse. I would, however, challenge your idea that amateurs have no preconceptions, and the assumption in there that good images arise only from such preconceptions. To me a good image is one that conveys the photographer's intention. There is almost an 18th century argument that the pure natural state is better than the educated/developed one. I don't think so. I think the two approaches can sit alongside each other, and provide something that is collectively stronger and more informative. It's all very well to send Salgado along to photograph an event or situation, but it will always be Salgado's view of it, informed as it is by his background. Great as the photos may be, in my opinion it would also be great to see pictures by, say, the people in that enormous mine he photographed. The problem that arises, though, is that by giving cameras to people in the community (which is itself rather a patronising thing to do), you privilege the people with the cameras above the people they are photographing, so you are just repeating the same problem on a smaller scale. If you give everyone a camera, you have an issue of editing and selecting. Presumably you then ask the community to choose collectively which pictures they want to show. But then, when it's time to curate an exhibition, the curator gets to choose the pictures, so you're kind of back to square one. So yes, I can see how the interviewee might distinguish the work from e.g. Lange's based on process and method. But looking at the images and the stories they tell, none of that really matters to the viewer, and I would prefer the emphasis were on how different approaches lead to similar outcomes. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO x2: Taiaroa Head
The camera in my cellphone has mysteriously started working again. I'm spending the long weekend (Queen's Birthday) in Dunedin while the Mrs is attending a conference. With nothing better to do I decided I'd ride my bike out on the Otago Peninsula. I was planning to turn around at Portobello but decided I may as well go right out to the end, Taiaroa Head. http://www.multi.net.nz/taiaroa/ You can read more about Taiaroa Head on Wikipedia. It's quite an important nature reserve. The Royal Albatross centre just had its 1 millionth tour group go through the other day which seems quite an achievement (it's too expensive for me). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiaroa_Head The total ride was about 66km with plenty of climbing and I do recommend the Highcliff Road. I couldn't resist riding it both ways :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Sunbather
Nice. Our cats are often found in this position Dave On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Not the best shot but it amused me: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1319925159_smjQQjR-O-LB -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2011 - 087-090 - GDG
Number two is an excellent shot. Well placed and great back drop Dave On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: A few snaps of a neat Nash Metropolitan seen on my walk yesterday ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157626875930896/show/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157626875930896/ to get to the set slideshow or set top page. Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Madonna and child
Nice fungi Dave On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: An interpretation of one of my photos I didn't see until a friend commented on it Mother and child http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5324644936/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Untitled
Well done Dave On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:26 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, Another from the bodypainting shoot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/5793119953 Direct link http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/5793119953_fec50f72b8_o.jpg D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f8, ISO 100. Singled gridded beauty dish. Enjoy, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just Dodged a Bullet
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:47 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/06/2011 5:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote: However, this got me wondering what methods others use to backup their files.. I use a Drobo. Brad does back up.??? Dave -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just Dodged a Bullet
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all Digital photography - bah!! However, this got me wondering what methods others use to backup their files.. Cheers Brian Similar to your method Brian, two externals, plus when i get enough files to fill a DVD i then burn and then delet those files from the HD Dave ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Leslie
I like the use of thirds here. Well done Dave On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:48 PM, tim...@clancode.hu wrote: Hi, My friend, Leslie: http://15kb.posterous.com/leslie The picture was inspired by the works of Joel Grimes, I kinda tried to reproduce his style. Comments and critique welcomed! .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just Dodged a Bullet
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 04:56 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:47 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/06/2011 5:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote: However, this got me wondering what methods others use to backup their files.. I use a Drobo. Brad does back up.??? I wish I'd been around then. Sounds like it was a lot of fun! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A really tough jpeg conversion
Mmm not sure it is the graphics card. It is most probably the screen. And no, Mac screens are no better than PC screens :( 2011/6/3 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: Hah, the plot thickens. I can see the banding perfectly clearly on my everyday MacBook Pro. But on our big high-quality NEC monitor, I can't. But even on the big monitor, I can see the bands in that .png file. Interesting because this is the first time there's actually been an observable effect of the fairly limited graphics card in the laptop. Thanks everyone for making me take a second look. -T On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I don't see the banding either. When I've had this kind of problem, the banding was caused by display resolution. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:47, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Check out http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as the green brightness drops off. They ain't there in the .dng, and after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still obvious. It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview. Obvious bars! I put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought .png was uncompressed! I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created. But I don't know how. It's not too bad here. I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have something set to too few bits. I'm having the same issue - I cannot see the isobars/lines/whatever at all. Silky-smooth on my screen (Chrome browser on a Macbook) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A really tough jpeg conversion
Some are. The larger iMac screens, eg 24 and up, are IPS displays which don't exhibit the banding. The older iMacs and all the Mac notebooks have TN displays which do show banding. That's why I have a secondary IPS LCD monitor on my iMac that I do all my image editing on. -bmw On 11-06-04 5:17 AM, Thibouille wrote: Mmm not sure it is the graphics card. It is most probably the screen. And no, Mac screens are no better than PC screens :( 2011/6/3 Tim Braytb...@textuality.com: Hah, the plot thickens. I can see the banding perfectly clearly on my everyday MacBook Pro. But on our big high-quality NEC monitor, I can't. But even on the big monitor, I can see the bands in that .png file. Interesting because this is the first time there's actually been an observable effect of the fairly limited graphics card in the laptop. Thanks everyone for making me take a second look. -T On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I don't see the banding either. When I've had this kind of problem, the banding was caused by display resolution. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:47, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Check out http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as the green brightness drops off. They ain't there in the .dng, and after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still obvious. It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview. Obvious bars! I put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought .png was uncompressed! I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created. But I don't know how. It's not too bad here. I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have something set to too few bits. I'm having the same issue - I cannot see the isobars/lines/whatever at all. Silky-smooth on my screen (Chrome browser on a Macbook) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More Stupid Ghosting Software Questions
I've dealt with Easeus Recovery and it was utter crap. Acronis True Image on the other hand I can say lots of good things about. My first choice. HTH Ecke 2011/6/4 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:31 -0600, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: So, my new SSD is here, but not installed. It turns out that the version of Norton Ghost that I have isn't compatible with Windows7, so I am in the market for new software. I am somewhat less than brand agnostic in this regard, and so am looking for other solutions than Norton Anyway... I found a thing called Acronis® True Image which looks like it will do what I want, and even has a free download so I suppose I can see if it will work before I pay for it. Are there any other drive ghosting solutions out there that I should be considering, or does it even matter and I should just buy the cheapest one? I'm not sure if this program will do what you want (Easeus Todo Backup) but it will clone an entire hard drive or partition. The price is certainly acceptable :-) http://dottech.org/freebies/22232/ The reviewer seems to think that Easeus Todo backup compares well with Acronis True Image. I can't comment on either as I haven't used either. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Thanks -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2011 - 087-090 - GDG
Beautiful images and reminds me of Billy WIlder's movie One, Two, Three starring amongst others a 1937 Nash or rather an alleged Russian copy thereof. Thanks for sharin Ecke 2011/6/4 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Number two is an excellent shot. Well placed and great back drop Dave On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: A few snaps of a neat Nash Metropolitan seen on my walk yesterday ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157626875930896/show/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157626875930896/ to get to the set slideshow or set top page. Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A really tough jpeg conversion
IPS doesn't mean good. IPS does mean 'not crap'. A tad different IMO. Colour restitution capabilities and uniformity are not there just because those are IPS panels. 2011/6/4 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Some are. The larger iMac screens, eg 24 and up, are IPS displays which don't exhibit the banding. The older iMacs and all the Mac notebooks have TN displays which do show banding. That's why I have a secondary IPS LCD monitor on my iMac that I do all my image editing on. -bmw On 11-06-04 5:17 AM, Thibouille wrote: Mmm not sure it is the graphics card. It is most probably the screen. And no, Mac screens are no better than PC screens :( 2011/6/3 Tim Braytb...@textuality.com: Hah, the plot thickens. I can see the banding perfectly clearly on my everyday MacBook Pro. But on our big high-quality NEC monitor, I can't. But even on the big monitor, I can see the bands in that .png file. Interesting because this is the first time there's actually been an observable effect of the fairly limited graphics card in the laptop. Thanks everyone for making me take a second look. -T On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I don't see the banding either. When I've had this kind of problem, the banding was caused by display resolution. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:47, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Check out http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as the green brightness drops off. They ain't there in the .dng, and after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still obvious. It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview. Obvious bars! I put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought .png was uncompressed! I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created. But I don't know how. It's not too bad here. I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have something set to too few bits. I'm having the same issue - I cannot see the isobars/lines/whatever at all. Silky-smooth on my screen (Chrome browser on a Macbook) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A really tough jpeg conversion
On Jun 4, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Thibouille wrote: IPS doesn't mean good. IPS does mean 'not crap'. A tad different IMO. Colour restitution capabilities and uniformity are not there just because those are IPS panels. But the new iMac IPS monitors are quite good by all accounts. I've been very satisfied with the performance of the iMac 27 monitor. Paul 2011/6/4 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Some are. The larger iMac screens, eg 24 and up, are IPS displays which don't exhibit the banding. The older iMacs and all the Mac notebooks have TN displays which do show banding. That's why I have a secondary IPS LCD monitor on my iMac that I do all my image editing on. -bmw On 11-06-04 5:17 AM, Thibouille wrote: Mmm not sure it is the graphics card. It is most probably the screen. And no, Mac screens are no better than PC screens :( 2011/6/3 Tim Braytb...@textuality.com: Hah, the plot thickens. I can see the banding perfectly clearly on my everyday MacBook Pro. But on our big high-quality NEC monitor, I can't. But even on the big monitor, I can see the bands in that .png file. Interesting because this is the first time there's actually been an observable effect of the fairly limited graphics card in the laptop. Thanks everyone for making me take a second look. -T On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I don't see the banding either. When I've had this kind of problem, the banding was caused by display resolution. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:47, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Check out http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as the green brightness drops off. They ain't there in the .dng, and after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still obvious. It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview. Obvious bars! I put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought .png was uncompressed! I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created. But I don't know how. It's not too bad here. I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have something set to too few bits. I'm having the same issue - I cannot see the isobars/lines/whatever at all. Silky-smooth on my screen (Chrome browser on a Macbook) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
for iphone picture takers
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/technology/04photosharing.html?_r=1nl=todaysheadlinesemc=tha25 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Canyon views and others...
HI Bulent: Village would be my favorite--a nice job of showing the isolated village, and canyon 7 is nice, but of those, canyon 4 would be my favorite because of the angle. You seem to be low to the water surface there and it makes for an interesting shot. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:39 PM Subject: PESO(s) Canyon views and others... Hello All, I have recently visited a rather secluded part of Eastern Anatolia: Kemaliye (Egin). The area has an Alpine climate. Some very deep canyons are present. Most of the villages keep their authentic shapes. I enjoyed mostly some detail shots and occasional abstracts. However, I also brought back some informative and tourist-oriented photos. A few of those can be seen below: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1007045 If you just want to look at a village from above: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13275352 A typical canyon view is this one: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13275492size=lg These are shot using a K5, which performed nicely. I especially liked the amount of highlight (and shadow) recovery possible with this camera. As a former user of K100D, K10D and a current user of K20D; I am amazed by this amount of highlight recovery. I should be grateful if you could take a look at some of them and comment on pluses and minuses. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A really tough jpeg conversion
On Jun 4, 2011, at 4:37, Bruce Walker wrote: Some are. The larger iMac screens, eg 24 and up, are IPS displays which don't exhibit the banding. The older iMacs and all the Mac notebooks have TN displays which do show banding. That's why I have a secondary IPS LCD monitor on my iMac that I do all my image editing on. 3-year-old Macbook here and I cannot see any banding whatsoever. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Madonna and child
On 6/3/2011 21:44, Bob W wrote: I don't imagine Boris was upset about it. I interpreted his comment as thinking the title was just a bit overblown really. That's exactly right. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where's the picnic?
Been out of town so I'm catching up here... When Marcia and I first were together, I had a 17' kevlar canoe. One day I suggested we head for the lake with it. Not being a camping/watersports person, she looked at me, smiled, and said Jews don't canoe. I sold the canoe and bought another Pentax. -p On 5/30/2011 2:51 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Christine, My kind of guy. My idea of roughing it is the Holiday Inn. (Or that Best Western near Grandfather Mt.) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com wrote: Funny! When Darrel I were dating, I asked him if we wanted to go on a picnic. He gave me a look that I have come to know well over the years, and said, Aren't there ants and things on picnics. He's never been an outdoorsy kind of guy. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:21 AM Subject: Peso: Where's the picnic? On Memorial day, where outdoor food is a traditional staple: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#131709_63q4ZWc-L-LB -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - In the Bubble
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Re: PESO(s) Canyon views and others...
Christine Aguila wrote: HI Bulent: Village would be my favorite--a nice job of showing the isolated village, and canyon 7 is nice, but of those, canyon 4 would be my favorite because of the angle. You seem to be low to the water surface there and it makes for an interesting shot. Cheers, Christine I'm with Christine on the Village - but favor Canyon 5 otherwise... Overall, I wish you had been there at a time of day that better enhanced the scene - (I bet you do too :-) The Village viewed right next to the Canyon 5 shot makes a brief little photo comment on how alike and how different, differnt parts of the world are..IF yo had not told me where you were, I'd have thought Canyon 5 might be in the Sawtooth mountains or the like here in the USA .. but the Village scene corrects that, so to speak, ain't nothing quite like it over here ann - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:39 PM Subject: PESO(s) Canyon views and others... Hello All, I have recently visited a rather secluded part of Eastern Anatolia: Kemaliye (Egin). The area has an Alpine climate. Some very deep canyons are present. Most of the villages keep their authentic shapes. I enjoyed mostly some detail shots and occasional abstracts. However, I also brought back some informative and tourist-oriented photos. A few of those can be seen below: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1007045 If you just want to look at a village from above: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13275352 A typical canyon view is this one: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13275492size=lg These are shot using a K5, which performed nicely. I especially liked the amount of highlight (and shadow) recovery possible with this camera. As a former user of K100D, K10D and a current user of K20D; I am amazed by this amount of highlight recovery. I should be grateful if you could take a look at some of them and comment on pluses and minuses. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Bubble
Worth a few squeals I'd guess. 'Fun' well caught, Paul. Jack --- On Sat, 6/4/11, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - In the Bubble To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 8:13 AM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13318554size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Taiaroa Head
Nice subject composition. It would really soar with better light. My eye is drawn to the tip of land along the RH edge - I'd give it more room to breathe - looks like a mistake. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz Subject: PESO x2: Taiaroa Head The camera in my cellphone has mysteriously started working again. I'm spending the long weekend (Queen's Birthday) in Dunedin while the Mrs is attending a conference. With nothing better to do I decided I'd ride my bike out on the Otago Peninsula. I was planning to turn around at Portobello but decided I may as well go right out to the end, Taiaroa Head. http://www.multi.net.nz/taiaroa/ You can read more about Taiaroa Head on Wikipedia. It's quite an important nature reserve. The Royal Albatross centre just had its 1 millionth tour group go through the other day which seems quite an achievement (it's too expensive for me). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiaroa_Head The total ride was about 66km with plenty of climbing and I do recommend the Highcliff Road. I couldn't resist riding it both ways :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: for iphone picture takers
While out of town recently, I noticed phone-cameras were by far the weapon of choice of those taking photos. Dedicated cameras were almost non-existent this was over a holiday weekend. The results produced by my son his iphone are quite impressive the photo apps he uses give him a lot of control over his images. An issue with these phone images might be the limit it places on printed image size but I doubt most of these images ever get printed. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Subject: for iphone picture takers http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/technology/04photosharing.html?_r=1nl=todaysheadlinesemc=tha25 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Bubble
Great shot! This will be a great shot to embarrass her with when she's eventually elected MP. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Worth a few squeals I'd guess. 'Fun' well caught, Paul. Jack --- On Sat, 6/4/11, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - In the Bubble To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 8:13 AM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13318554size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: for iphone picture takers
Of course, it's the PS market that gets hit by this. It's also the most profitable part. Interesting times. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: While out of town recently, I noticed phone-cameras were by far the weapon of choice of those taking photos. Dedicated cameras were almost non-existent this was over a holiday weekend. The results produced by my son his iphone are quite impressive the photo apps he uses give him a lot of control over his images. An issue with these phone images might be the limit it places on printed image size but I doubt most of these images ever get printed. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Subject: for iphone picture takers http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/technology/04photosharing.html?_r=1nl=todaysheadlinesemc=tha25 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Bubble
Nicely framed and great expression Dave On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13318554size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Arrived in NC
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Chris, this is North Carolina: If I'd been driving with a camera in one hand and a gun in the other it probably would have been legal. And thats why i like NC.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Arrived in NC
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:24 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, this is North Carolina: If I'd been driving with a camera in one hand and a gun in the other it probably would have been legal. Maybe not North Carolina, but South Carolina would let you do that, while driving through the drive-in window at the liquor store. :-) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Misty Morning on the River
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Re: PESO: Leslie
Excellent. Composition and textures are very nice. What kind of PP did you use? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:48 PM, tim...@clancode.hu wrote: Hi, My friend, Leslie: http://15kb.posterous.com/leslie The picture was inspired by the works of Joel Grimes, I kinda tried to reproduce his style. Comments and critique welcomed! .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A really tough jpeg conversion
Which is good news, undoubtetly. But I'd be surprises if the gamut of mac screens is anything to write about. Note I myself have a mac so this is no Free mac bashing. Le samedi 4 juin 2011, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net a écrit : On Jun 4, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Thibouille wrote: IPS doesn't mean good. IPS does mean 'not crap'. A tad different IMO. Colour restitution capabilities and uniformity are not there just because those are IPS panels. But the new iMac IPS monitors are quite good by all accounts. I've been very satisfied with the performance of the iMac 27 monitor. Paul 2011/6/4 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Some are. The larger iMac screens, eg 24 and up, are IPS displays which don't exhibit the banding. The older iMacs and all the Mac notebooks have TN displays which do show banding. That's why I have a secondary IPS LCD monitor on my iMac that I do all my image editing on. -bmw On 11-06-04 5:17 AM, Thibouille wrote: Mmm not sure it is the graphics card. It is most probably the screen. And no, Mac screens are no better than PC screens :( 2011/6/3 Tim Braytb...@textuality.com: Hah, the plot thickens. I can see the banding perfectly clearly on my everyday MacBook Pro. But on our big high-quality NEC monitor, I can't. But even on the big monitor, I can see the bands in that .png file. Interesting because this is the first time there's actually been an observable effect of the fairly limited graphics card in the laptop. Thanks everyone for making me take a second look. -T On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I don't see the banding either. When I've had this kind of problem, the banding was caused by display resolution. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:47, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Check out http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as the green brightness drops off. They ain't there in the .dng, and after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still obvious. It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview. Obvious bars! I put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought .png was uncompressed! I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created. But I don't know how. It's not too bad here. I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have something set to too few bits. I'm having the same issue - I cannot see the isobars/lines/whatever at all. Silky-smooth on my screen (Chrome browser on a Macbook) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Madonna and child
On Jun 4, 2011, at 7:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 6/3/2011 21:44, Bob W wrote: I don't imagine Boris was upset about it. I interpreted his comment as thinking the title was just a bit overblown really. That's exactly right. Aahh, criticizing me for being overblown is a bit like criticizing me for having brown hair. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Madonna and child
On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Nice fungi thanks Dave On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: An interpretation of one of my photos I didn't see until a friend commented on it Mother and child http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5324644936/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: QM2
A ship came by the other day. It was rather large, so I could only fit a fraction of it in the frame: http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=qm2 - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: QM2
It was rather large, so I could only fit a fraction of it in the frame: Excellent justification for a wider lens. Well composed image by the way. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net Subject: PESO: QM2 A ship came by the other day. It was rather large, so I could only fit a fraction of it in the frame: http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=qm2 - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Research on what makes an image memorable
On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Sandy Harris http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/memorable-images-0524.html that explains why so many people put Ansel Adams pictures on their walls. It's the only way they can recall what they look like. Mark! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where's the picnic?
I guess that explains Peter walking on water?! :-) Walt On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Been out of town so I'm catching up here... When Marcia and I first were together, I had a 17' kevlar canoe. One day I suggested we head for the lake with it. Not being a camping/watersports person, she looked at me, smiled, and said Jews don't canoe. I sold the canoe and bought another Pentax. -p On 5/30/2011 2:51 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Christine, My kind of guy. My idea of roughing it is the Holiday Inn. (Or that Best Western near Grandfather Mt.) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com wrote: Funny! When Darrel I were dating, I asked him if we wanted to go on a picnic. He gave me a look that I have come to know well over the years, and said, Aren't there ants and things on picnics. He's never been an outdoorsy kind of guy. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:21 AM Subject: Peso: Where's the picnic? On Memorial day, where outdoor food is a traditional staple: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#131709_63q4ZWc-L-LB -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: QM2
On 6/4/11 19:25, Ken Waller wrote: It was rather large, so I could only fit a fraction of it in the frame: Excellent justification for a wider lens. He, he, you have a point there. Actually, maybe I had a wider lens in my bag at the time, but let's not ruin a good excuse for another little purchase ;-) Well composed image by the way. Thanks! - Toralf Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net Subject: PESO: QM2 A ship came by the other day. It was rather large, so I could only fit a fraction of it in the frame: http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=qm2 - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Leslie
Done! Processing fits the scene. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/6/4 tim...@clancode.hu: Hi, My friend, Leslie: http://15kb.posterous.com/leslie The picture was inspired by the works of Joel Grimes, I kinda tried to reproduce his style. Comments and critique welcomed! .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Misty Morning on the River
Very thematic and peaceful. Dan On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1313748239_zwKRzb5-O-LB -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO... Tree, rocks, snow...
Can someone feel like a dead tree? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13321692size=lg Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dream Dance
Sat Jun 4 01:28:48 EDT 2011 Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org To: PDML at pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Dream Dance Hi Christine, Thanks for the pointers and sharing the thoughts. I've done some ambient light photography of tango with Nikon D700, about half of the photos in this gallery: http://42graphy.org/tango/astf-2010/ But it doesn't always work (espcially with K-7), because in many cases, one needs a reasonable DOF (I find that frequently f/1.4 and even 1.8-2.0 don't provide enough, and even 2.8 is hard to use when the motion is fast and/or close). I took some photos with ISO 1600 and 3200 with my K-7 at the last festival, and they are passable shots, but I am not overly happy with them. Yea, I'm disappointed with the K-7's iso quality too. Maybe I'll go to a place that has dancing and try some shots. You know, looking at your photos posted here (and there are some nice ones there), clearly you have challenges to overcome with respect to light, but in a way, your bigger challenge is all the people sitting around the dancing area :-). Gosh, what to do to minimize their presence :-)? I can see photographing dancers in this context is no easy task. I'm affraid I wasn't very helpful. Cheers, Christine Photography and dancers (How to photograph dancers and how to dance to come out well on photographs) - is a topic of a few workshops that I've given recently, and the topic I am actively working on, hoping to give more of those. Sorry, if I am repeating myself, - I mentioned them a few months ago. Some of the aspects of these workshop are described in these two flyers: http://42graphy.org/news/DancersAndPhotographs-short.pdf http://42graphy.org/news/DancersAndPhotographs.pdf It is a challenging genre, but it's a fun one. We've had several discussions of this question with Larry, who's been doing things similar to what I do (dancing and photographing at the dance events). Besides technical issues, there are also issues related to the specifics of different dances. E.g. after mastering [at some non-zero level] photography of swing dances, it was a new challenge to figure out photographing Argentine tango. As for the surroundings (including the people), - basically, in most cases, you have to deal with whatever you have just from the venue. Often, you have to be aware of obstacles (e.g. mirrors). But sometimes you can use them to your advantage. Here are some examples: http://42graphy.org/swing/abp-2010/sun-classes/_IR_1402.html http://42graphy.org/swing/abp-2010/sun-classes/_IR_1464.html Actually, a flash sometimes helps to separate the foreground from the background, as e.g. in this shot: http://42graphy.komkon.org/swing/parties/west/_IR_2931.html In any case, - I really appreciate your and other people's suggestions and comments. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO... Tree, rocks, snow...
Very nice. Where is that? Is the white stuff snow? -T On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone feel like a dead tree? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13321692size=lg Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Dinner and a Show
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=94 Comments and criticisms are welcome! -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO... Tree, rocks, snow...
That is quite dramatic. Dan On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone feel like a dead tree? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13321692size=lg Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO... Tree, rocks, snow...
Like this, Bulent. Nice composition and well chosen overall tone. Jack --- On Sat, 6/4/11, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com Subject: PESO... Tree, rocks, snow... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 2:40 PM Can someone feel like a dead tree? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13321692size=lg Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Bubble
Thanks to Jack, Steve, and David for commenting, and kudos to all those who had a look. Paul On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13318554size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO... Tree, rocks, snow...
A captivating image. Well done. Nice to see something cold. 91 degrees F, 34 C here today. Paul On Jun 4, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Very nice. Where is that? Is the white stuff snow? -T On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone feel like a dead tree? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13321692size=lg Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Interesting Vintage Advert
http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2011/06/03/wtf-photos-videos-and-theyve-never-been-happier/ -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: QM2
On 5/06/11 3:57 AM, Toralf Lund wrote: On 6/4/11 19:25, Ken Waller wrote: It was rather large, so I could only fit a fraction of it in the frame: Excellent justification for a wider lens. He, he, you have a point there. Actually, maybe I had a wider lens in my bag at the time, but let's not ruin a good excuse for another little purchase ;-) Well composed image by the way. Thanks! - Toralf Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net Subject: PESO: QM2 A ship came by the other day. It was rather large, so I could only fit a fraction of it in the frame: http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=qm2 - Toralf You need excuses to buy another lens? -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdakly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Interesting Vintage Advert
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2011/06/03/wtf-photos-videos- and-theyve-never-been-happier/ it used to be quite common when I were a lad for us mum to give us a slice of bread and dripping. Delicious it were. Dripping is the lard that's been used then poured into a bowl, put in the fridge and used again later. Of course a few years of London sophistication put a stop to that diet, so I was very shocked when I went to work back up north for a while to see that people took a break at 11am to get a slice of bread and dripping from the canteen. The perfect diet for people who don't want to live too long. Delicious but deadly, although it's probably no worse than bread butter, and a lot better than hydrogenated vegetable fats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dripping B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting Vintage Advert
On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2011/06/03/wtf-photos-videos- and-theyve-never-been-happier/ it used to be quite common when I were a lad for us mum to give us a slice of bread and dripping. Delicious it were. Dripping is the lard that's been used then poured into a bowl, put in the fridge and used again later. Of course a few years of London sophistication put a stop to that diet, Sophistication is frequently a rather unhappy concept, and very often a self-imposed sack cloth.. Many top chefs have rediscovered lard. It can be a very fine and useful ingredient. Paul so I was very shocked when I went to work back up north for a while to see that people took a break at 11am to get a slice of bread and dripping from the canteen. The perfect diet for people who don't want to live too long. Delicious but deadly, although it's probably no worse than bread butter, and a lot better than hydrogenated vegetable fats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dripping B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Interesting Vintage Advert
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 02:58 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2011/06/03/wtf-photos-videos- and-theyve-never-been-happier/ it used to be quite common when I were a lad for us mum to give us a slice of bread and dripping. Delicious it were. Dripping is the lard that's been used then poured into a bowl, put in the fridge and used again later. Bread and dripping was common during the Depression years according to my late parents (who both lived to a ripe old age despite the diet). I think I may have been fed it a few times in my early years - which may explain a lot I can't quite read the date on that advert but it may be 1957, which seems a bit late for this sort of thing. Odd that the advert was issued in conjunction with the Department of Health. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Of course a few years of London sophistication put a stop to that diet, so I was very shocked when I went to work back up north for a while to see that people took a break at 11am to get a slice of bread and dripping from the canteen. The perfect diet for people who don't want to live too long. Delicious but deadly, although it's probably no worse than bread butter, and a lot better than hydrogenated vegetable fats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dripping B -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting Vintage Advert
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:58:33AM +0100, Bob W wrote: it used to be quite common when I were a lad for us mum to give us a slice of bread and dripping. Delicious it were. Dripping is the lard that's been used then poured into a bowl, put in the fridge and used again later. I've still got a container in the fridge, which gets topped up with pan drippings from roasts. I wouldn't use anything else for roast potatoes, Yorkshire pudding, etc. Of course a few years of London sophistication put a stop to that diet, so I was very shocked when I went to work back up north for a while to see that people took a break at 11am to get a slice of bread and dripping from the canteen. The perfect diet for people who don't want to live too long. Delicious but deadly, although it's probably no worse than bread butter, and a lot better than hydrogenated vegetable fats. Down in the south I encountered an alternative cheap calorie-laden snack - brown sugar sandwiches. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting Vintage Advert
It's not proper lard, but there is nothing better than cooking up a batch of breakfast sausage and putting it in the fridge to congeal the fat. It's finger licking good. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2011/06/03/wtf-photos-videos- and-theyve-never-been-happier/ it used to be quite common when I were a lad for us mum to give us a slice of bread and dripping. Delicious it were. Dripping is the lard that's been used then poured into a bowl, put in the fridge and used again later. Of course a few years of London sophistication put a stop to that diet, so I was very shocked when I went to work back up north for a while to see that people took a break at 11am to get a slice of bread and dripping from the canteen. The perfect diet for people who don't want to live too long. Delicious but deadly, although it's probably no worse than bread butter, and a lot better than hydrogenated vegetable fats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dripping B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting Vintage Advert
I call fake. The same picture with less cropping, which suggests a source closer to the original, is on this page: http://www.asylum.com/2011/01/06/monogomy-linked-to-drunkenness/ Notice that it's attributed to Getty Images. Tineye is a useful tool when validating images with a doubtful history. If I wanted to further close in on the source then follow the lead to Getty Images. But I reckon that the authenticity of the lard advert has been blown already, so that's enough for me. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) On 5 June 2011 10:54, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2011/06/03/wtf-photos-videos-and-theyve-never-been-happier/ -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting Vintage Advert
Here's an interesting article http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/nov/16/foodanddrink which contains this revealing statement, ... the British Lard Marketing Board, a jokey site which promotes the use of the animal fat beneath the slogan: 'Not suitable for weirdy vegetarians'. If you follow-up on the British Lard Marketing Board, you find: http://www.britishlard.co.uk/ The Board is clearly decades more recent than the advert appears to be. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Misty Morning on the River
Do I hear banjo music in the background? On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Very thematic and peaceful. Dan On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1313748239_zwKRzb5-O-LB -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting Vintage Advert
Which all proves that you can't trust everything that you see/read/hear on the internet. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting Vintage Advert
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:36 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:58:33AM +0100, Bob W wrote: it used to be quite common when I were a lad for us mum to give us a slice of bread and dripping. Delicious it were. Dripping is the lard that's been used then poured into a bowl, put in the fridge and used again later. I've still got a container in the fridge, which gets topped up with pan drippings from roasts. I wouldn't use anything else for roast potatoes, Yorkshire pudding, etc. Cooking is like making live, it should be entered into with abandon or not at all. Harriet Van Horne Of course a few years of London sophistication put a stop to that diet, so I was very shocked when I went to work back up north for a while to see that people took a break at 11am to get a slice of bread and dripping from the canteen. The perfect diet for people who don't want to live too long. Delicious but deadly, although it's probably no worse than bread butter, and a lot better than hydrogenated vegetable fats. Down in the south I encountered an alternative cheap calorie-laden snack - brown sugar sandwiches. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting Vintage Advert
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:36 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:58:33AM +0100, Bob W wrote: it used to be quite common when I were a lad for us mum to give us a slice of bread and dripping. Delicious it were. Dripping is the lard that's been used then poured into a bowl, put in the fridge and used again later. I've still got a container in the fridge, which gets topped up with pan drippings from roasts. I wouldn't use anything else for roast potatoes, Yorkshire pudding, etc. Cooking is like making live, it should be entered into with abandon or not at all. Harriet Van Horne No, what Harriet said is that cooking is like making love. My apologies to Ms. Van Horne. Of course a few years of London sophistication put a stop to that diet, so I was very shocked when I went to work back up north for a while to see that people took a break at 11am to get a slice of bread and dripping from the canteen. The perfect diet for people who don't want to live too long. Delicious but deadly, although it's probably no worse than bread butter, and a lot better than hydrogenated vegetable fats. Down in the south I encountered an alternative cheap calorie-laden snack - brown sugar sandwiches. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting Vintage Advert
I, for one, shall sleep better tonight knowing that the world is safe from Lard Board advertisement fakery. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting Vintage Advert
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:03 +1000, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: Which all proves that you can't trust everything that you see/read/hear on the internet. No...!! :-( Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PAW--Week 22--The Beaches Have Opened!
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Re: Peso: Misty Morning on the River
Closer than you know. I could hear them. Two good ol' boys out to do a little fishing. -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:03:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso: Misty Morning on the River Do I hear banjo music in the background? On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Very thematic and peaceful. Dan On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_NVzVH#1313748239_zwKRzb5-O-LB -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Madonna and child
On 6/4/2011 20:09, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 4, 2011, at 7:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 6/3/2011 21:44, Bob W wrote: I don't imagine Boris was upset about it. I interpreted his comment as thinking the title was just a bit overblown really. That's exactly right. Aahh, criticizing me for being overblown is a bit like criticizing me for having brown hair. No way, Larry, no way. Criticized for being overblown you were not. It is the picture title I was talking about. Just that - no more, no less, just a title. To make it clear - I did like the picture, I wasn't upset and I happen to know the connotation of the title... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
