RE: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

2011-08-04 Thread John Coyle
Very Van Gogh-ish.  Saves all that mucking about with paint and brushes.
Not sure it works for me, though.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:49 PM
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Subject: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

I have been playing around with Pixel Bender and here is an example of that
experimentation. The plugin does work but for some reason it causes my video 
driver to
crash so I have to deselect the GPU option and then it works but very slowly.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/6003963132/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Here is original that I took this weekend at the Richland Creek Greenway:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5995846847/in/photostream

Well just wanted to share and do hope everyone is staying cool in all this HOT 
weather..
Jeffery

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RE: PESO - From Fruit to Nuts

2011-08-04 Thread John Coyle
I quite like the attitude.  I'll have to have a walk around our local churches, 
although I
think they're a bit po-faced WRT signs.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Subject: PESO - From Fruit to Nuts

Oh those whacky Presbyterians:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/from-fruit-to-nuts.html

I wonder if John Knox would approve such fun and frivolity at the place of 
worship?

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank




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Happy Birthday Walt

2011-08-04 Thread Larry Colen
I know that last year was  a rough one for you, here's wishing that next year 
gets better in every way.

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K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Larry Colen
I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 
Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the 
photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
conditions: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/

If you're curious about the rest of the set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/

I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 
out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient 
light.

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread drd1135
That is nice. The high ISO shots on the K5 have a nice look to them.  
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I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 
Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the 
photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
conditions: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/

If you're curious about the rest of the set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/

I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 
out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient 
light.

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Re: Happy Birthday Walt

2011-08-04 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 8/4/2011 4:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I know that last year was  a rough one for you, here's wishing that next year 
gets better in every way.

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Many thanks, Larry.  I hadn't really thought about how tough the past 
year was, but now that you mention it, I spent my last birthday in 
surgery having lymph nodes taken out.


On the other hand, I got to go to Arkansas in November, where I met Ted 
Beilby.  Then, I got to go to California, where I met you and John 
Francis.  So, while it started and ended badly, it wasn't a total loss.


Thanks again.  And here's to better days.

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread David J Brooks
That is a great shot and example of the high iso of the K-5. I wish my
Nikon D2H at 400 was that good, but it is ancient technology at 7
years old.:-)That was one of my major nits with my D2H, among others,
that the iso noise was not that great 400 and above.

Dave

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
 how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 
 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with 
 the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
 conditions:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/

 If you're curious about the rest of the set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/

 I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 
 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are 
 ambient light.

 --
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Re: Peso - Fed-Up

2011-08-04 Thread Keith Mosier
Ann,

No, I live in Kentucky.  I'm just familiar with the safety material and some of 
its properties.  The last time I was in THE CITY was in the mid-70's when I did 
an internship with the AP.  The closest I get now is Newark.

k

Ann Sanfedele wrote Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:12:16 -0400

 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Peso - Fed-Up
 Message-ID: 4e39f1f0.2090...@nyc.rr.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 wow... ok so do you live in my neighborhood or can you tell that from 
 the photo? -- and, of course, I totally forgot to look at it today --
 Wed is family day at the Sal Army and 10% off day at the Trade fair 
 grocer in Queens - so I was busy saving money...
 What you describe sure makes sense tho.
 
 ann
 
 On 8/3/2011 11:49, Keith Mosier wrote:
 On 8/3/2011, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 The Moir? pattern could also be caused by the safety material in the glass.
 
   It's a tinted, safety glass door.
 
   It uses a sandwiched elastomeric material, possibly Butacite?, between 
 two pieces of glass,
 
   much like a car windshield.
 
 k
 
 On 8/2/2011 23:37, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Ann,
 Moire pattern from the screen to be sure.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 I think that is true but I won't rule out artwork until I go over there 
 and see it. A screen door is unlikely to exist in my neighborhood.
 ann
 
 


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Re: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

2011-08-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 8/4/2011 02:04, John Coyle wrote:

Very Van Gogh-ish.  Saves all that mucking about with paint and brushes.
Not sure it works for me, though.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


Doesn't work for me, either,  but I understand the fun element and it is 
easy to fall in love with the result because of the process.


ann




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Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:49 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

I have been playing around with Pixel Bender and here is an example of that
experimentation. The plugin does work but for some reason it causes my video 
driver to
crash so I have to deselect the GPU option and then it works but very slowly.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/6003963132/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Here is original that I took this weekend at the Richland Creek Greenway:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5995846847/in/photostream

Well just wanted to share and do hope everyone is staying cool in all this HOT 
weather..
Jeffery

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Keith Mosier
I think I would be a little more than fairly happy with that photo.  Good work! 
 
on Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:02:06 -0700 Larry Colen wrote: 
I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 
Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the 
photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
conditions: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/

If you're curious about the rest of the set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/

I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 
out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient 
light.

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I'd say you did fine -
even the one or two where you don't see their eyes are interesting.

ann


On 8/4/2011 06:01, Larry Colen wrote:

I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 
Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the 
photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
conditions:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/

If you're curious about the rest of the set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/

I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 540 
out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are ambient 
light.

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Re: Peso - Fed-Up

2011-08-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 8/4/2011 07:59, Keith Mosier wrote:

Ann,

No, I live in Kentucky.  I'm just familiar with the safety material and some of 
its properties.


  The last time I was in THE CITY was in the mid-70's when I did an 
internship with the AP.


 The closest I get now is Newark.


k


That reminds me to go and look this morning - I better write it down! 
(if you checked out that age activated ADHD vid I pointed to a couple of 
weeks ago...well )


ann



Ann Sanfedele wrote Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:12:16 -0400


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wow... ok so do you live in my neighborhood or can you tell that from
the photo? -- and, of course, I totally forgot to look at it today --
Wed is family day at the Sal Army and 10% off day at the Trade fair
grocer in Queens - so I was busy saving money...
What you describe sure makes sense tho.

ann

On 8/3/2011 11:49, Keith Mosier wrote:

On 8/3/2011, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

The Moir? pattern could also be caused by the safety material in the glass.


   It's a tinted, safety glass door.

   It uses a sandwiched elastomeric material, possibly Butacite?, between
two pieces of glass,

   much like a car windshield.


k

On 8/2/2011 23:37, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ann,
Moire pattern from the screen to be sure.
Regards,  Bob S.
I think that is true but I won't rule out artwork until I go over there

and see it. A screen door is unlikely to exist in my neighborhood.

ann








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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for posting these, Larry. Well composed with very impressive ISO 
performance.

Jack

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 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Subject: K-5 at high ISO
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 3:01 AM
 I was photographing some friends
 playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see how the K-5
 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at
 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to
 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the photograph but close to
 ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these conditions:
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/
 
 If you're curious about the rest of the set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/
 
 I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making
 a snoot for the 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work
 so well, so most of these are ambient light.
 
 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 sent from i4est
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread William Robb

On 03/08/2011 9:22 PM, John Francis wrote:






An Eye1 doesn't exactly qualify as cheap, though.



Was that one of the criteria?


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RE: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread Norm Baugher
Do you need to calibrate your monitor for grayscale?
Also Bill, my spell checker keeps suggesting a bunch of expletives for your
name...
Norm

From: William Robb

On 03/08/2011 9:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 Dear All:

 What model(s) of color-calibration devices (colorimeters) for computer
 displays would you recommend?

I've been using an X-Rite eye1 for several years, quite happily.
When I was running photolabs, X-Rite was the densitometer of choice (I 
still have one of their lab units around somewhere, so I went with a 
brand I knew as one who knows colour.
I expect they are all good.

My spell checker wants to make your name Rhinoceros...
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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:22 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 An Eye1 doesn't exactly qualify as cheap, though.

I suppose that cheap is in the eye of the beholder, but I don't
think that $115 is bad:
http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-i1Display-Calibrator-Laptop-Displays/dp/B000JLO31M/
Less expensive than the Spider 3 Pro (with similar 4 star customer reviews).
Spider 3 Express gets similar 4 star reviews for $66 at the budget end.

For similar reviews I like to breakdown the star ratings to get a
better picture.
For example, the X-Rite i1 has the most reviews (120). Out of those
120 it got 13 1-star reviews (10.8%)
Spider 3 Pro has 79 reviews with 9 1-star reviews (11.4%)
Spider 3 Elements has 34 reviews with 1 1-star review (3%). Even if
the next person to review gave it 1-star it would only have 6%).
I also look at what percentage give it 4 or 5 star ratings, and if
there are more 5s than 4s. All are similar in that regard:
X-Rite (74%), Spider 3 Pro (76%), Spider 3 Express (78%).

I will be needing to make a decision on one of these in the
not-too-distant future, so I appreciate this thread.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

2011-08-04 Thread Darren Addy
Reminds me of the old SX-70 film manipulations.
I think it has potential, and I love the price (FREE).
Like any tool, it can be used for good or ill.
Wasn't aware of it before. Thanks!

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Re: PESO: Thriving in the Heat

2011-08-04 Thread Darren Addy
I appreciate the comments and agree with you (the centered/off-center
thing was the first thing I thought of when I saw it). This was a
manual focus lens and I'm not terribly experienced at handheld macros
so I was kind of using the centerpoint AF assist beep but shooting
wide open there is SUCH a narrow band of DOF that this was my main
concern (that and getting the shot before the skitterish beast jumped
away).

I do think that the centered-ness is somewhat offset by the overall
weight of the composition being off-center. The leaves at the left
and the nothingness to the right sort of helps with it not seeming
static/symmetrical, doesn't it? Or maybe I'm just wishful thinking.
: )

The other thing that I liked about it was the natural warm golden hour
light. So many macros are (by necessity) taken with flash (mostly from
overhead) and so look sort of textbook/similar to me. I plan on making
an overhead flash rig, but I think the lesson from this shot is to
perhaps warm it up a bit with gels. Of course, that can also be done
in post-processing, but my philosophy is to spend less time in post if
you know what you want and can get it in the camera.

One other observation... with jumpy subjects the stopdown metering
(mirror slap) can be enough to get them to take off so better to meter
and lock exposure while farther away and then creep in taking shots as
you get closer and closer. Other's techniques are invited/welcome as
I'm just learning.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: PESO: Thriving in the Heat

2011-08-04 Thread Darren Addy
correction: Not mirror slap on the stopdown metering... just the
slamming of the aperture closed and opening again. Obvious not a
problem if you are shooting wide open.

: )

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Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread Norm Baugher
I need to buy another digital for snapshots. If I pickup a used body, like a
K10, what kind of limitations am I facing using my manual focus lenses?

Norm

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RE: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread J.C. O'Connell
A lenses: no limitations except manual focus. K-M lenses:
manual exposure as well as manual focus.

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I need to buy another digital for snapshots. If I pickup a used body, like a
K10, what kind of limitations am I facing using my manual focus lenses?

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Re: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
If the manual focus lenses are A series, you'll have all the autoexposure 
options that the K10 offers. With M and K series lenses, you'll have to use a 
workaround for exposure. Basically, you set a stop on the aperture ring, and 
press the green button. That causes the camera to set an exposure. Other than 
that, manual lenses work fine. 
Paul
On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

 I need to buy another digital for snapshots. If I pickup a used body, like a
 K10, what kind of limitations am I facing using my manual focus lenses?
 
 Norm
 
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RE: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread Norm Baugher
Ahh, the infamous green button... What about angle of view issues?
Tks,
Norm

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If the manual focus lenses are A series, you'll have all the autoexposure
options that the K10 offers. With M and K series lenses, you'll have to use
a workaround for exposure. Basically, you set a stop on the aperture ring,
and press the green button. That causes the camera to set an exposure. Other
than that, manual lenses work fine. 
Paul
On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

 I need to buy another digital for snapshots. If I pickup a used body, like
a
 K10, what kind of limitations am I facing using my manual focus lenses?
 
 Norm
 
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Re: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread Darren Addy
The Pentax DSLR will have a 1.5 focal length multiplier effect, making
a 50mm lens have the angle of view of a 75mm lens on your DSLR.
A 35mm will be the equiv. of a 52mm lens on 35mm.

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Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Bray
Check out the technical details:
http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1

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Re: Archives only go back to April?

2011-08-04 Thread Doug Brewer

On 8/1/11 1:02 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

I was going to make a witty comment online about something that
someone said in March, but apparently PDML time began on April 1,
2011.  I've never had occasion to visit the archives before; have they
always been just a short moving window? -T



Thanks for the heads up. The PDML.net archives are now restored to May 
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Re: Archives only go back to April?

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Bray
On behalf of the Internet's tribal memory, thanks! -T

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 On 8/1/11 1:02 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

 I was going to make a witty comment online about something that
 someone said in March, but apparently PDML time began on April 1,
 2011.  I've never had occasion to visit the archives before; have they
 always been just a short moving window? -T


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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
ROTFL.  The last two are truly memorable.  BH should hire this guy.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Check out the technical details:
 http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1

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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Sorenson
I've also used the Spyder 2 and had no problem matching monitor and 
prints, especially considering the cheap monitor I'm using.  Considering 
what I paid for it, I think it's the Spyder 2 Pro, but I've used it with 
good results with the latest versions of both the Spyder 2 Pro and 
Spyder 2 Express software.  I recently upgraded to the Spyder 3, so if 
anyone is interested in getting a cheap start on monitor calibration 
with the Spyder 2 contact me off list.


-p

On 8/3/2011 10:38 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I use the very inexpensive Spyder Express (the older 2 version), and it is 
quite adequate in that my monitor and my prints are a near perfect match. It 
will only calibrate one monitor, so I have my large monitor set up as the photo 
viewing area and use my second monitor just for PhotoShop windows and tools. It 
adjusts the monitor for the ambient light, so I have to work in the same 
lighting conditions for best accuracy. I think the main advantage of the Pro 
device is that it allows more adjustment of gamma and the calibration of 
multiple monitors. I'd like to have it, but the Express version does the job 
and does it well. That being said, other calibration systems are more highly 
rated by reviewers, but the Spyder works well for me and my iMac 27 monitor. 
(It also worked well with my previous frontline monitor, an Apple Cinema 
Display.)
Paul
On Aug 3, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Dear All:

What model(s) of color-calibration devices (colorimeters) for computer
displays would you recommend? (For Windows - XP and Win7, - if that matters)
I am looking for something that would be reasonable - both in
functionality (quality, convenience of use) and price.

I heard mostly about Spyder. But then even Spyder seems to have
several variations (Datacolor DC S3P100 Spyder 3 Pro, Datacolor DC
S3EL100 Spyder 3 Elite, Datacolor DC S3X100 Spyder 3 Express).
I didn't have a chance to figure out which features are really helpful,
and which are just marketing ploy:
http://spyder.datacolor.com/s3compare.php

Does the Pro version automatically adjust calibration based on the
ambient light in real time, or only during the calibration?
Also, - how does the multiple display calibration work? Does anybody
know?

I think I am ready to bite the bullet, - as the monitors I thought
were close to calibrated are actually not.

Thank you in advance,

Igor


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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread mike wilson

On 04/08/2011 17:30, Tim Bray wrote:

Check out the technical details:
http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1



No good if you're a heterosexual woman.  Or a homosexual man.  Limits 
the market somewhat.


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Enablement

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Sorenson
The Fed-X guy left an Epson R2000 on my porch yesterday.  It sits half 
unpacked on a table in the living room while I ponder what to do next.


--It's a honking big printer compared to the R800 I've been using
--Do I connect it USB, wired network or wireless
--Where the hell will I fit it into my office
--There's no room on my desk, so now I have to go out and buy a table
  to put it on

I was putting off replacing the R800 but the Epson is giving a $150 
rebate on the R2000. That put the price point $50 less than I paid for 
the R800 seven years ago.  How could I resist?


-p




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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Sorenson

One could always hope for a conversion to take place...

-p

On 8/4/2011 10:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:

No good if you're a heterosexual woman. Or a homosexual man. Limits the
market somewhat.



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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 05:11:12PM +0200, mike wilson wrote:
 On 04/08/2011 17:30, Tim Bray wrote:
 Check out the technical details:
 http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1
 
 
 No good if you're a heterosexual woman.  Or a homosexual man.
 Limits the market somewhat.

Don't be silly - eveyone knows you can't be a professional
photographer if you're a woman (heterosexual or otherwise).
And while there doesn't seem to be any bar on homosexual men,
there's nothing to say they need to enjoy the attention.

(I don't really need to add a smiley-face here, do I?)



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Re: Enablement

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've found USB printer connections fast and reliable. I keep my R2880 on the 
floor. That ensures that it won't be subject to vibration or shaking that can 
screw up a print.
Paul


On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

 The Fed-X guy left an Epson R2000 on my porch yesterday.  It sits half 
 unpacked on a table in the living room while I ponder what to do next.
 
 --It's a honking big printer compared to the R800 I've been using
 --Do I connect it USB, wired network or wireless
 --Where the hell will I fit it into my office
 --There's no room on my desk, so now I have to go out and buy a table
  to put it on
 
 I was putting off replacing the R800 but the Epson is giving a $150 rebate on 
 the R2000. That put the price point $50 less than I paid for the R800 seven 
 years ago.  How could I resist?
 
 -p
 
 
 
 
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RE: ?

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

it's unlikely that anyone accessed his computer; perhaps the most
common vector
for this sort of thing is that some site where Paul had registered was
hacked
and the hacker obtained a list of email addresses and passwords
(possibly
decrypted via dictionary attack); if his password there was the same as
his
Comcast email password, the hacker could then log into Paul's Comcast
webmail,
harvest contact addresses, and send out email in Paul's name via
Comcast

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14371738


One problem is you get so many online accounts with every one of them 
requiring a password, how do you manage the proliferation?


I try to make them all highly secure using random combinations of 
upper-case, lower-case, numbers  where possible special characters. But 
after a while there's just too many to keep track of and remember.


How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?


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Re: OT: Capture Camera Clip

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson

My Son, however, just split his C5 vertebra in half in an accident
last night and so far I'm not going anywhere until they operate and
patch him up.

Lucky boy did not paralyze or kill himself.


Good that he did not. I'm sorry he was injured and hope he will heal 
well; not suffer lingering after effects.



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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 11:24 , John Sessoms wrote:

One problem is you get so many online accounts with every one of them requiring
a password, how do you manage the proliferation?

I try to make them all highly secure using random combinations of upper-case,
lower-case, numbers  where possible special characters. But after a while
there's just too many to keep track of and remember.

How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?


i have used this tool for about four years; it holds my unique and secure 
passwords for a few hundred sites and i don't need to remember any of them:


http://agilebits.com/products/1Password

there are several competitors, but i think this one's the best for Macs  iOS


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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:24 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?

If you have a reasonably good password (that contains at least one
number and special character) you can use that same one across
multiple sites/services with little to fear.
If you want to go one step further, then simply come up with a
convention in which you use your reasonably good password and then add
something site specific to the front or back (like last three letters,
ckr for Flickr, for instance).

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: OT: Capture Camera Clip

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-02 18:06 , Charles Robinson wrote:

My Son, however, just split his C5 vertebra in half in an accident last night 
and so far I'm not going anywhere until they operate and patch him up.

Lucky boy did not paralyze or kill himself.

SO, I may not be going to said festival at all.  We'll see what the next 24-36 
hours bring us.


yeegads, it sounds like a frightening accident; hope he heals well

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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread Darren Addy
Also... some sites generate a password for you. The first thing you
should do with those is use the password provided to log-in and then
immediately go to your Profile page and reset it to Your Own password
(using the rules above).

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 One problem is you get so many online accounts with every one of them
 requiring a password, how do you manage the proliferation?

For years, I've used password management software. I currently have a
couple of hundred passwords in my database; as you say, that's far too
many to remember, especially if they're all unique, random, and
complex.

I currently use Keepass 2. Obviously, it's important not to lose the
database, so it's on my USB flash drive, and is also synchronized with
Dropbox to multiple computers and the cloud.

http://keypass.info/

The passwords that I use most often, I memorize through habit and repetition.

In several recent hacker attacks, the hackers publicly posted password
lists from the sites they cracked. Those password lists were then
available for anyone in the world to try logging into Gmail, bank
accounts, PayPal, etc. with the same credentials. I therefore consider
it essential to use different passwords on different sites (and not by
modifying the same basic password in an obvious way... e.g.
MyPassw0rdFacebook - MyPassw0rdPayPal).

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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 11:39 , Matthew Hunt wrote:

I currently use Keepass 2. Obviously, it's important not to lose the
database, so it's on my USB flash drive, and is also synchronized with
Dropbox to multiple computers and the cloud.


good idea; the one i use explicitly supports Dropbox sync and iPhone/iPad sync; 
on top of that, the set of files 1Password stores is actually a self-contained 
secure website that you can load in any browser and retrieve your passwords




http://keypass.info/


should be http://keepass.info

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 4, 2011, at 5:47 AM, Keith Mosier wrote:

 I think I would be a little more than fairly happy with that photo.  Good 
 work! 

Thanks Keith, also Dave, Ann, Jack, Steve  and anyone else who comments.

Livia is a fun subject to photograph.  She's also an amazing guitar player, 
especially since she's only 17.


  
 on Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:02:06 -0700 Larry Colen wrote: 
 I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to 
 see 
 how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 
 1/40 
 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the 
 photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
 conditions: 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/
 
 If you're curious about the rest of the set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/
 
 I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 
 540 
 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are 
 ambient 
 light.
 
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Re: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 08:45 , Paul Stenquist wrote:

If the manual focus lenses are A series, you'll have all the autoexposure 
options that the K10 offers. With M and K series lenses, you'll have to use a 
workaround for exposure. Basically, you set a stop on the aperture ring, and 
press the green button. That causes the camera to set an exposure. Other than 
that, manual lenses work fine.


note that with the green button, if you normally use exposure compensation you 
have to apply it as a shutter adjustment after using the green button, every 
time; this is what keeps me from using my M lenses much, but i find using an A 
lens very satisfactory


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RE: ?

2011-08-04 Thread Bob W
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14371738
 
 One problem is you get so many online accounts with every one of them
 requiring a password, how do you manage the proliferation?
 
 I try to make them all highly secure using random combinations of
 upper-case, lower-case, numbers  where possible special characters.
 But
 after a while there's just too many to keep track of and remember.
 
 How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?

Well, my first rule is, I don't tell anyone about my password policy...

B


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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-03 09:10 , Igor Roshchin wrote:

What model(s) of color-calibration devices (colorimeters) for computer
displays would you recommend? (For Windows - XP and Win7, - if that matters)
I am looking for something that would be reasonable - both in
functionality (quality, convenience of use) and price.

I heard mostly about Spyder. But then even Spyder seems to have
several variations (Datacolor DC S3P100 Spyder 3 Pro, Datacolor DC
S3EL100 Spyder 3 Elite, Datacolor DC S3X100 Spyder 3 Express).


i've been shopping for a calibrator too; i have what i think is the the 
original Spyder, but i haven't found software that will drive it on Mac OS X 
10.5 or above


the Spyder 3 Express has an attractive price, but i'm put off by notes that 
none of the Spiders read or adjust luminance; can anyone address how much that 
might matter?


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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:54 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 http://keypass.info/

 should be http://keepass.info

Good catch, thanks. Google's started rewriting URLs in search results
so that you go through Google first (presumably so they can tell what
results are most popular). That screws me up whenever I try to right
click and copy a result from the Google results page. I thought this
one was short enough that I could just type it accurately, but
obviously not.

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Re: MiniGESO - Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

2011-08-04 Thread mike wilson

On 04/08/2011 07:12, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

so I'd guess it was just the
pattern of the back or whatever of the dead insect - a beatle of some
sort maybe?


I hear the sound of multiple, dead Scrabble enthusiasts rotating at high 
speed


It's a spider with (almost certainly) her legs drawn in.

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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 08:04 , Darren Addy wrote:

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:22 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com  wrote:

An Eye1 doesn't exactly qualify as cheap, though.


I suppose that cheap is in the eye of the beholder, but I don't
think that $115 is bad:
http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-i1Display-Calibrator-Laptop-Displays/dp/B000JLO31M/
Less expensive than the Spider 3 Pro (with similar 4 star customer reviews).


hmmm ... this appears to be a 10-year-old product that is now discontinued and 
may have problems with current Windows or Mac systems; many of the good reviews 
are from a few years ago; no wonder it's cheaper




Spider 3 Express gets similar 4 star reviews for $66 at the budget end.

For similar reviews I like to breakdown the star ratings to get a
better picture.


i use the reviews on Amazon a lot, but to help avoid being misled i think you 
have to actually read a good number of them, note when the reviews were posted, 
look at comments on the glowing or most helpful reviews, and sometimes 
check the reviewer's other reviews; personally i don't trust the raw star 
statistics -- often the curve is an inverted bell, with fours, fives, and a 
cluster of one-star reviews; for the product above the one-stars are where one 
learns it is discontinued, but often one-stars are whiners who didn't like how 
something was packaged, had a bad experience with an Amazon partner, or 
something like that; fives are sometimes useful, and sometimes starry-eyed 
geek-wannabees or shills; it's the twos, threes and fours from which i often 
learn the most, and if there are lots of ones but few twos or threes (or none 
at all), i don't trust the entire spread



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Re: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:58 AM, steve harley wrote:

 On 2011-08-04 08:45 , Paul Stenquist wrote:
 If the manual focus lenses are A series, you'll have all the autoexposure 
 options that the K10 offers. With M and K series lenses, you'll have to use 
 a workaround for exposure. Basically, you set a stop on the aperture ring, 
 and press the green button. That causes the camera to set an exposure. Other 
 than that, manual lenses work fine.
 
 note that with the green button, if you normally use exposure compensation 
 you have to apply it as a shutter adjustment after using the green button, 
 every time; this is what keeps me from using my M lenses much, but i find 
 using an A lens very satisfactory

My experience with everything but the K-5 is that no matter what lens I use I 
have to chimp the histogram and tweak the exposure on 80-90% of the shots.

Come to think of it Chimp the histogram could make a good T-shirt.

 
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Re: Peso - Fed-Up

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ann Sanfedele

On 8/2/2011 23:37, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Ann,
Moire pattern from the screen to be sure.
Regards,  Bob S.

I think that is true but I won't rule out artwork until I go over there
and see it.  A screen door is unlikely to exist in my neighborhood.

ann



I have, on rare occasions, seen those kinds of patterns in safety glass 
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RE: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread Bob W
 
 Check out the technical details:
 http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-
 Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1
 

it must be the Voigtlander branding that does it. I have the Leica
equivalent and I can assure you none of those things happen to me. 

Or maybe it's because I'm old, bald, fat, ugly, dull. And, most importantly,
poor.

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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Sorenson
The latest iteration of the Spyder 3 Pro software helps with luminance. 
 It reads it, recommends a target luminance level and walks you through 
manually adjusting it.  Older software versions come on the CD, but 
after I installed it, I was asked if I wanted to download/install the 
most recent version.


-p

On 8/4/2011 1:05 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2011-08-03 09:10 , Igor Roshchin wrote:

What model(s) of color-calibration devices (colorimeters) for computer
displays would you recommend? (For Windows - XP and Win7, - if that
matters)
I am looking for something that would be reasonable - both in
functionality (quality, convenience of use) and price.

I heard mostly about Spyder. But then even Spyder seems to have
several variations (Datacolor DC S3P100 Spyder 3 Pro, Datacolor DC
S3EL100 Spyder 3 Elite, Datacolor DC S3X100 Spyder 3 Express).


i've been shopping for a calibrator too; i have what i think is the the
original Spyder, but i haven't found software that will drive it on Mac
OS X 10.5 or above

the Spyder 3 Express has an attractive price, but i'm put off by notes
that none of the Spiders read or adjust luminance; can anyone address
how much that might matter?



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Re: PESO - From Fruit to Nuts

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Steven Desjardins

LOL.  I see these slogan sermon announcements all over Virginia.  It
seems they always go for the cutesy angle.  Having grown up Catholic
in New England, they always make me laugh.  It's not a right or wrong
issue and obviously it's accepted and expected down here, but it's one
of those cultural differences I've never been able to get over.  I
keep expecting to see a drive-through window.


That's something more generally associated with California, but they 
actually exist all over:


http://thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/church_billboard.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/123168156_e7184080c9.jpg



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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote:

I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 
Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the 
photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
conditions:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/


you don't make it easy to resist the K-5

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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14371738
 
 One problem is you get so many online accounts with every one of them
 requiring a password, how do you manage the proliferation?
 
 I try to make them all highly secure using random combinations of
 upper-case, lower-case, numbers  where possible special characters.
 But
 after a while there's just too many to keep track of and remember.
 
 How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?

Well, my first rule is, I don't tell anyone about my password policy...

That's my second rule.

I won't tell anyone what my first rule is...

 
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Re: PESO - From Fruit to Nuts

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

http://jceworld.blogspot.com/2011/03/australia-drive-through-confession-by.html

From: Michael Beacom

What a concept, drive-through confession!

Cheers
Mike


On Aug 3, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:


LOL.  I see these slogan sermon announcements all over Virginia.  It
seems they always go for the cutesy angle.  Having grown up Catholic
in New England, they always make me laugh.  It's not a right or wrong
issue and obviously it's accepted and expected down here, but it's one
of those cultural differences I've never been able to get over.  I
keep expecting to see a drive-through window.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Oh those whacky Presbyterians:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/from-fruit-to-nuts.html

I wonder if John Knox would approve such fun and frivolity at the
place of worship?



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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb

On 03/08/2011 9:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

Dear All:

What model(s) of color-calibration devices (colorimeters) for computer
displays would you recommend?

I've been using an X-Rite eye1 for several years, quite happily.
When I was running photolabs, X-Rite was the densitometer of choice (I
still have one of their lab units around somewhere, so I went with a
brand I knew as one who knows colour.
I expect they are all good.

My spell checker wants to make your name Rhinoceros...


X-Rite also makes the ColorMunki, which appears to be the preferred 
system in the Windoze world.



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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:29 AM, steve harley wrote:

 On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote:
 I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to 
 see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 
 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly 
 happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do 
 under these conditions:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/
 
 you don't make it easy to resist the K-5

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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread P. J. Alling
The onlhy woman who ever came close to hitting on me because  of what 
what was mounted on my camera was realty, really, impressed with my SMCP 
FA 28-200mm .  So I guess size matters more than anything else.


On 8/4/2011 11:30 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Check out the technical details:
http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1




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Re: Password Protection (WAS RE: ?)

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: steve harley

On 2011-08-04 11:24 , John Sessoms wrote:

One problem is you get so many online accounts with every one of them requiring
a password, how do you manage the proliferation?

I try to make them all highly secure using random combinations of upper-case,
lower-case, numbers  where possible special characters. But after a while
there's just too many to keep track of and remember.

How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?

i have used this tool for about four years; it holds my unique and secure
passwords for a few hundred sites and i don't need to remember any of them:

http://agilebits.com/products/1Password

there are several competitors, but i think this one's the best for Macs  iOS


Bookmarked - I'll take a closer look at it.

One thing I want to look for is whether there are options for syncing it 
on more than one computer that doesn't require an online service such as 
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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 On 03/08/2011 9:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 What model(s) of color-calibration devices (colorimeters) for computer
 displays would you recommend?

 I've been using an X-Rite eye1 for several years, quite happily.
 When I was running photolabs, X-Rite was the densitometer of choice (I
 still have one of their lab units around somewhere, so I went with a
 brand I knew as one who knows colour.
 I expect they are all good.

 X-Rite also makes the ColorMunki, which appears to be the preferred system
 in the Windoze world.

The Eye One Display calibration and profiling package (then sold by
Gretag-Macbeth, now Xrite) was recommended to me independently by
colleagues on both the Displays and ColorSync engineering teams at
Apple when I asked them. They had every calibration tool, from the
bottom to the top of the market, at their disposal and said that the
Eye One Display was both the most consistent and the most reliable. I
bought mine (the Eye One Display 2 model by that time) in late 2004
and have been completely satisfied with its performance despite all
the system and technology changes it has been updated to manage over
the past seven years.

It's been replaced by the i1 Display Pro package, which is just about
the same price I paid with much more functionality. I don't know how
it compares in detail to the ColorMunki model, but I'll likely do the
research soon and pick one or the other as my calibration utility
since my Eye One Display 2 hardware is getting old and does not
support the integration of ambient room lighting into the calibration
and profiling.
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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Check out the technical details:
 http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1

I have had many women fall in love with me because of my use of a
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Re: Password Protection (WAS RE: ?)

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:24 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?

If you have a reasonably good password (that contains at least one
number and special character) you can use that same one across
multiple sites/services with little to fear.
If you want to go one step further, then simply come up with a
convention in which you use your reasonably good password and then add
something site specific to the front or back (like last three letters,
ckr for Flickr, for instance).


I have done that using a reasonably strong password. I had two versions; 
with and without special characters.


Some sites require special characters, some sites allow special 
characters and some sites don't allow special characters.


Some sites still don't even allow/use mixed case passwords, only 
lowercase characters.


But back at the end of 2010 my email address showed up on the list of 
emails compromised when Gawker got their password file hacked. I didn't 
even know I had a Gawker account.


I got an email from some group informing me, as a courtesy, that my 
email and password for Gawker were on a list that had been published on 
some hacker's forum.


The implication was that both my email address and the strong password I 
was using for everything were compromised when the site was hacked. I 
couldn't get any information from Gawker about what had happened and 
ended up changing about a hundred passwords to make each of them a 
unique strong password.


As it turned out, I did *NOT* have a Gawker account. Gawker allowed 
someone else to use my email address to create an account on the site 
without verifying it with me. The account was not mine and did not 
contain MY password.


I had largely forgotten about that, but I still hope some day to repay 
Gawker with interest.



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RE: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

Check out the technical details:
http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-
Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1


it must be the Voigtlander branding that does it. I have the Leica
equivalent and I can assure you none of those things happen to me.

Or maybe it's because I'm old, bald, fat, ugly, dull. And, most importantly,
poor.


That's what you get for spending all your money buying Leica.


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RE: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread Bob W
  Check out the technical details:
  http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-
  Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1
 
  it must be the Voigtlander branding that does it. I have the Leica
  equivalent and I can assure you none of those things happen to me.
 
  Or maybe it's because I'm old, bald, fat, ugly, dull. And, most
 importantly,
  poor.
 
 That's what you get for spending all your money buying Leica.
 

maybe if I sell it all I can be 21 again

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Re: Password Protection (WAS RE: ?)

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 13:47 , John Sessoms wrote:

From: steve harley

http://agilebits.com/products/1Password


Bookmarked - I'll take a closer look at it.

One thing I want to look for is whether there are options for syncing it on
more than one computer that doesn't require an online service such as Dropbox.


well, it can wifi-sync _or_ Dropbox-sync between a computer and an iPhone or 
iPad, but i think it depends on Dropbox for computer-to-computer syncing; i 
have no qualms doing that because the entire package is strong-encrypted before 
it reaches Dropbox


there is a detailed discussion of 1Password and Dropbox here (it's worth 
knowing a lot about the security software you use):


http://blog.agilebits.com/2011/07/dropbox-terms/

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 13:16 , Larry Colen wrote:


On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:29 AM, steve harley wrote:


On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote:

I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 1/40 
Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with the 
photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
conditions:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/


you don't make it easy to resist the K-5


Alcoholics in recovery shouldn't hang out in bars.  If you're trying to resist 
the K-5, you shouldn't read the PDML.


i guess it is a test of my resolve; i'm still able to practice well and get 
satisfying shots with my K200d; the best beer in the world is the one you're 
drinking


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Re: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 12:15 , Larry Colen wrote:


On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:58 AM, steve harley wrote:

note that with the green button, if you normally use exposure compensation you 
have to apply it as a shutter adjustment after using the green button, every 
time; this is what keeps me from using my M lenses much, but i find using an A 
lens very satisfactory


My experience with everything but the K-5 is that no matter what lens I use I 
have to chimp the histogram and tweak the exposure on 80-90% of the shots.


it is my perhaps naive belief that practice can improve my second-guessing of 
the exposure on my K200d; for my most-used lenses, and for most scenes in 
normal daylight and bright overcast, +0.7 is quite reliable and i don't have to 
chimp; even with M lenses i can green-button and then dial the shutter two 
clicks slower (still a pain), occasionally checking the histogram; and i'm 
slowly getting better at perceiving when the compensation should be different, 
in other words, knowing when to chimp



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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 09:42:50PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
   Check out the technical details:
   http://www.amazon.com/Voigtlander-LH-6-Lens-Nokton-
   Classic/dp/B0014YZIK8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1312471768sr=8-1
  
   it must be the Voigtlander branding that does it. I have the Leica
   equivalent and I can assure you none of those things happen to me.
  
   Or maybe it's because I'm old, bald, fat, ugly, dull. And, most
  importantly,
   poor.
  
  That's what you get for spending all your money buying Leica.
  
 
 maybe if I sell it all I can be 21 again


Better than that - you can be 21 three times over!


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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 03:05:20PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
 
 i guess it is a test of my resolve; i'm still able to practice well
 and get satisfying shots with my K200d;

That's what I said about my K10D (Heck, most of the time the *ist-D
is plenty good enough).  That lasted through the K20D era. The K-7
was tempting, but there were just enough things wrong with it (or if
not exactly wrong, at least capable of being tweaked a little) to make
me want to hang on for the K-7s (which turned out to be the K-5 instead).



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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread P. J. Alling

On 8/4/2011 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bob W wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14371738

One problem is you get so many online accounts with every one of them
requiring a password, how do you manage the proliferation?

I try to make them all highly secure using random combinations of
upper-case, lower-case, numbers  where possible special characters.
But
after a while there's just too many to keep track of and remember.

How do you keep track of them all and still keep them secure?

Well, my first rule is, I don't tell anyone about my password policy...

That's my second rule.

I won't tell anyone what my first rule is...


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Re: Which Monitor Color Calibration device?

2011-08-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Suggestions?  I thought those were mandatory,  It could be worse I 
suppose, My spell checker kept wanting to change Theriault to 
Diphtheria.  I never thought Frank was that bad.


On 8/4/2011 9:08 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

Do you need to calibrate your monitor for grayscale?
Also Bill, my spell checker keeps suggesting a bunch of expletives for your
name...
Norm

From: William Robb

On 03/08/2011 9:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

Dear All:

What model(s) of color-calibration devices (colorimeters) for computer
displays would you recommend?

I've been using an X-Rite eye1 for several years, quite happily.
When I was running photolabs, X-Rite was the densitometer of choice (I
still have one of their lab units around somewhere, so I went with a
brand I knew as one who knows colour.
I expect they are all good.

My spell checker wants to make your name Rhinoceros...



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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 4, 2011, at 2:05 PM, steve harley wrote:

 On 2011-08-04 13:16 , Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:29 AM, steve harley wrote:
 
 On 2011-08-04 04:01 , Larry Colen wrote:
 I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to 
 see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 
 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly 
 happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do 
 under these conditions:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/
 
 you don't make it easy to resist the K-5
 
 Alcoholics in recovery shouldn't hang out in bars.  If you're trying to 
 resist the K-5, you shouldn't read the PDML.
 
 i guess it is a test of my resolve; i'm still able to practice well and get 
 satisfying shots with my K200d; the best beer in the world is the one you're 
 drinking

A talented photographer can get great shots with any camera.  The difference a 
good camera makes is which shots that they can get.  There's no way that I 
could have put the 18-250 on my K100, or even my K20 and gotten a decent shot 
in that lighting if the subject was moving at all.  If you don't need the 
performance of the K-5 for the photos that you're taking today, then wait a 
while. In a year or two, you should be able to either get performance that 
makes the K-5 look like the K-x, or the performance of the K-5 for the price of 
a K-x.  

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Re: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread P. J. Alling
A or K?  With A lenses of course you lose autofocus, and for AS to work 
properly the focal length of the lens when the image is captured, for 
best results.  Which makes A zoom lenses less than optimal using AS.  Of 
course that's also true for the original K mount zoom lenses as well, 
except you also lose open aperture metering.


On 8/4/2011 10:30 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

I need to buy another digital for snapshots. If I pickup a used body, like a
K10, what kind of limitations am I facing using my manual focus lenses?

Norm

smartass preemptive - other than no AF






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Re: Digital Body and Manual Lens Question

2011-08-04 Thread P. J. Alling
I've been using Digital for so long that I've even stopped thinking 
about AOV issues.  However just multiply the FL by 1.5 and that's the 
AOV equivalent on 35mm film.  So a 20mm ~30mm,  24mm - 35mm, etc.  Super 
wide is now simply wide, Wide is Normal, Normal is portrait, Portrait is 
medium telephoto and telephoto become extreme telephoto.  The 40mm and 
43mm lenses are interesting cases, they go from being shortish, 
(actually true normal) to longish normal.  Like an old 58mm normal lens.


On 8/4/2011 10:57 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

Ahh, the infamous green button... What about angle of view issues?
Tks,
Norm

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If the manual focus lenses are A series, you'll have all the autoexposure
options that the K10 offers. With M and K series lenses, you'll have to use
a workaround for exposure. Basically, you set a stop on the aperture ring,
and press the green button. That causes the camera to set an exposure. Other
than that, manual lenses work fine.
Paul
On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:


I need to buy another digital for snapshots. If I pickup a used body, like

a

K10, what kind of limitations am I facing using my manual focus lenses?

Norm

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 4 August 2011 11:01, Larry Colen wrote:
 I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to see 
 how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 250mmm, 
 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly happy with 
 the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do under these 
 conditions:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/

 If you're curious about the rest of the set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/

 I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 
 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are 
 ambient light.

That's an excellent shot Larry - and the rest are good too. Ambient is
good for gig photography - especially if you can get high ISO
performance as good as that.

I thought she'd switched to left handed in this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007733745/

But the exit sign's a bit of a give away.

Chris

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Re: Boris Peso #29 - Nocturne

2011-08-04 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 3 August 2011 17:57, Boris Liberman  wrote:
 Hi!

 Here is a nocturn(al flower)e...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/08/peso-2011-29-nocturne.html

 Have your brutal and honest say...

 Thanks.

 --
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Interesting Boris. First impression was that's very good. Then, not
so sure. When you look more closely, I'm not sure on which bit I'm
supposed to be concentrating. Still interesting though...

Chris

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Re: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

2011-08-04 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 4 August 2011 07:04, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Very Van Gogh-ish.  Saves all that mucking about with paint and brushes.
 Not sure it works for me, though.


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia

Certainly got the Vincent swirling clouds in violet haze look -
interesting experiment, but not for me.

Chris (Thanks to Don McLean of course)



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 Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:49 PM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

 I have been playing around with Pixel Bender and here is an example of that
 experimentation. The plugin does work but for some reason it causes my video 
 driver to
 crash so I have to deselect the GPU option and then it works but very slowly.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/6003963132/sizes/l/in/photostream/

 Here is original that I took this weekend at the Richland Creek Greenway:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5995846847/in/photostream

 Well just wanted to share and do hope everyone is staying cool in all this 
 HOT weather..
 Jeffery

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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 4, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

 On 4 August 2011 11:01, Larry Colen wrote:
 I was photographing some friends playing in a bar tonight, and decided to 
 see how the K-5 would do with the 18-250.  In order to shoot Livia at 
 250mmm, 1/40 Sec and f/6.3 I had to crank the ISO up to 12,800. I'm fairly 
 happy with the photograph but close to ecstatic to see what the K-5 can do 
 under these conditions:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007734165/in/set-72157627353833070/
 
 If you're curious about the rest of the set:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627353833070/
 
 I forgot my bag of light modifiers at home. I tried making a snoot for the 
 540 out of a ricola bag, but it didn't work so well, so most of these are 
 ambient light.
 
 That's an excellent shot Larry - and the rest are good too. Ambient is
 good for gig photography - especially if you can get high ISO
 performance as good as that.

Thank you.  Ideally, I like to use a gridded strobe as fill, just on the 
musicians face, to bring color balance in, and increase sharpness. With a grid 
on the strobe, and just enough for fill, the flash doesn't act like a photon 
grenade, and people hardly notice it.

 
 I thought she'd switched to left handed in this one:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6007733745/

I was expecting the flyer in the upper right corner to be a bit more prominent. 
  In many ways I liked the lighting from that angle better than what I could 
get straight on.

 
 But the exit sign's a bit of a give away.

I suppose I could flip it and let people wonder how I got a flyer to levitate 
in mid air over her.

 
 Chris
 
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Re: K-5 at high ISO

2011-08-04 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-04 15:34 , Larry Colen wrote:

A talented photographer can get great shots with any camera.  The difference a 
good camera makes is which shots that they can get.


well aware of that; and it depends what kind of shots one wants to get ... i 
used to love shooting at dusk with 800 film, 20/2.8 lens, hand holding at 1/8, 
1/4 second ... the results weren't that great, but i've since developed the 
technique side a bit, and sometime soon i'll work on the equipment side



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Re: Voigtlander LH-6

2011-08-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/8/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have had many women fall in love with me because of my use of a
top-notch lens hood. Sadly, I cannot reciprocate.

Is that a top-notch lens hood in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

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Re: OT: was Capture Camera Clip now my injured son

2011-08-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:37, steve harley wrote:
 yeegads, it sounds like a frightening accident; hope he heals well
 

He's been out of the O/R for about 18 hours now. 

C5 vertebra was removed and replaced with a titanium cage.

Front of C4-C6 were fused, then they flipped him over and fused C3-C6 as well.

Today he's up and about.  Sitting, walking, eating normal food.  He's off the 
I/V fluids and just taking some wonderfully powerful painkillers for a while.

That's a hell of a bullet he dodged.  By all rights he should be a quadriplegic 
and perhaps on a ventilator - if not dead.

If anyone cares to read more:  
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/caseyrobinson/mystory

 -Charles

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Re: OT: was Capture Camera Clip now my injured son

2011-08-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Charles Robinson wrote:

He's been out of the O/R for about 18 hours now. 

C5 vertebra was removed and replaced with a titanium cage.

Front of C4-C6 were fused, then they flipped him over and fused C3-C6 as well.

Today he's up and about.  Sitting, walking, eating normal food.  He's off the 
I/V fluids and just taking some wonderfully powerful painkillers for a while.

That's a hell of a bullet he dodged.  By all rights he should be a 
quadriplegic and perhaps on a ventilator - if not dead.

If anyone cares to read more:  
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/caseyrobinson/mystory

Wow, that's scary as hell! Even living with a physician who's involved
in some pretty cutting-edge stuff I'm constantly amazed about what
medical technology (and highly trained doctors) can do these days.
Glad to hear he's doing so well.
 
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RE: OT: was Capture Camera Clip now my injured son

2011-08-04 Thread Bob W
 On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:37, steve harley wrote:
  yeegads, it sounds like a frightening accident; hope he heals well
 
 
 He's been out of the O/R for about 18 hours now.
 
 C5 vertebra was removed and replaced with a titanium cage.
 
 Front of C4-C6 were fused, then they flipped him over and fused C3-C6
 as well.
 
 Today he's up and about.  Sitting, walking, eating normal food.  He's
 off the I/V fluids and just taking some wonderfully powerful
 painkillers for a while.
 

that's good to hear.


 That's a hell of a bullet he dodged.  By all rights he should be a
 quadriplegic and perhaps on a ventilator - if not dead.
 
 If anyone cares to read more:
 http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/caseyrobinson/mystory
 
  -Charles
 
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Re: OT: was Capture Camera Clip now my injured son

2011-08-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow.  What a terrible accident and an amazing comeback.  You must have
gone through hell, Charles.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:37, steve harley wrote:
 yeegads, it sounds like a frightening accident; hope he heals well


 He's been out of the O/R for about 18 hours now.

 C5 vertebra was removed and replaced with a titanium cage.

 Front of C4-C6 were fused, then they flipped him over and fused C3-C6 as well.

 Today he's up and about.  Sitting, walking, eating normal food.  He's off the 
 I/V fluids and just taking some wonderfully powerful painkillers for a while.

 That's a hell of a bullet he dodged.  By all rights he should be a 
 quadriplegic and perhaps on a ventilator - if not dead.

 If anyone cares to read more:  
 http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/caseyrobinson/mystory

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Re: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

2011-08-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Neat effect, but not the best shot to show it of.  Maybe a starry night?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 On 4 August 2011 07:04, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Very Van Gogh-ish.  Saves all that mucking about with paint and brushes.
 Not sure it works for me, though.


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia

 Certainly got the Vincent swirling clouds in violet haze look -
 interesting experiment, but not for me.

 Chris (Thanks to Don McLean of course)



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 Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:49 PM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

 I have been playing around with Pixel Bender and here is an example of that
 experimentation. The plugin does work but for some reason it causes my video 
 driver to
 crash so I have to deselect the GPU option and then it works but very slowly.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/6003963132/sizes/l/in/photostream/

 Here is original that I took this weekend at the Richland Creek Greenway:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5995846847/in/photostream

 Well just wanted to share and do hope everyone is staying cool in all this 
 HOT weather..
 Jeffery

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Re: OT: was Capture Camera Clip now my injured son

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Frightening, but I'm so pleased to hear that the surgery was successful. Great 
news.
Paul
On Aug 4, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

 On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:37, steve harley wrote:
 yeegads, it sounds like a frightening accident; hope he heals well
 
 
 He's been out of the O/R for about 18 hours now. 
 
 C5 vertebra was removed and replaced with a titanium cage.
 
 Front of C4-C6 were fused, then they flipped him over and fused C3-C6 as well.
 
 Today he's up and about.  Sitting, walking, eating normal food.  He's off the 
 I/V fluids and just taking some wonderfully powerful painkillers for a while.
 
 That's a hell of a bullet he dodged.  By all rights he should be a 
 quadriplegic and perhaps on a ventilator - if not dead.
 
 If anyone cares to read more:  
 http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/caseyrobinson/mystory
 
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RE: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

2011-08-04 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Full moon perhaps will keep that in mind...

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Neat effect, but not the best shot to show it of.  Maybe a starry night?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net
wrote:
 On 4 August 2011 07:04, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Very Van Gogh-ish.  Saves all that mucking about with paint and brushes.
 Not sure it works for me, though.


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia

 Certainly got the Vincent swirling clouds in violet haze look - 
 interesting experiment, but not for me.

 Chris (Thanks to Don McLean of course)



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 Of Jeffery Johnson
 Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:49 PM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

 I have been playing around with Pixel Bender and here is an example 
 of that experimentation. The plugin does work but for some reason it 
 causes my video driver to crash so I have to deselect the GPU option and
then it works but very slowly.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/6003963132/sizes/l/in/photost
 ream/

 Here is original that I took this weekend at the Richland Creek Greenway:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5995846847/in/photostream

 Well just wanted to share and do hope everyone is staying cool in all
this HOT weather..
 Jeffery

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RE: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

2011-08-04 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Yeah that is what I liked about it and it does have other effects besides
the oil paint effect. Let me know if you have issues with it crashing your
video driver.

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You can see my latest captures by visiting my Flickr page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/


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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Darren Addy
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO: Experimenting with Pixel Bender

Reminds me of the old SX-70 film manipulations.
I think it has potential, and I love the price (FREE).
Like any tool, it can be used for good or ill.
Wasn't aware of it before. Thanks!

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Re: OT: was Capture Camera Clip now my injured son

2011-08-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Charles,
That's frightening.  Hope he recovers fully.
Your lucky to have him alive.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:37, steve harley wrote:
 yeegads, it sounds like a frightening accident; hope he heals well


 He's been out of the O/R for about 18 hours now.

 C5 vertebra was removed and replaced with a titanium cage.

 Front of C4-C6 were fused, then they flipped him over and fused C3-C6 as well.

 Today he's up and about.  Sitting, walking, eating normal food.  He's off the 
 I/V fluids and just taking some wonderfully powerful painkillers for a while.

 That's a hell of a bullet he dodged.  By all rights he should be a 
 quadriplegic and perhaps on a ventilator - if not dead.

 If anyone cares to read more:  
 http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/caseyrobinson/mystory

  -Charles

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FS: Sigma 24mm f/2.8 Super Wide II A lens

2011-08-04 Thread Joe Wilensky
I finally found the AF version of this lens, so the manual-focus A version is 
for sale. Very nice on the digital bodies! Correct Sigma tulip hood (not 
pictured) is included. Filter size is 52mm.

$150 USD includes shipping/insurance in the continental U.S.

Photos at http://gallery.me.com/wilensky#101094 (first four photos are of 
this lens).


Also available (inquire if interested): Pentax SMC-M 28mm f/2 lens, BGN 
condition; Pentax P5 camera body, EX condition; Pentax black KX body with split 
image screen, BGN condition and wonky meter.

Joe Wilensky



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Re: ?

2011-08-04 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-08-04 14:53, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bob W wrote:



That's my second rule.

I won't tell anyone what my first rule is...


Rule 1: Cardio.
Rule 2: Double Tap.

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Re: OT Foundation is now in

2011-08-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 3, 2011, at 16:59 , William Robb wrote:

 On 02/08/2011 5:39 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 
 
 Yep, I can just see you sitting under a beach umbrella in your easy chair, 
 sipping a beverage, and watching the crew you had hired accomplishing these 
 tasks one at a time.
 
 I helped a bit, but mostly I just stayed out of the way.


As would I.


Joseph McAllister
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I couldn't remember most of what I know today
if it weren't for others sharing their knowledge
of my past on the Internet. Thank you…


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