Re: OT - No, it is not Photoshop...

2013-05-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:21:03PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 
 ... but life dolls:
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/10/17/barbie-flu-spreading-in-ukraine/
 
 and
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/05/06/deconstructing-a-ukrainian-barbie/

Never mind the zombie apocalypse, it's the barbie apocalypse!


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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

2013-05-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:34:34AM +0300, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:
 
 
  However my main statement that the JPEG is blown out, meanwhile
  the RAW is somewhat underexposed still holds, as by looking at the
  JPEG histogram you have the impression of an overblown red channel,
  meanwhile the raw histogram says otherwise.
 
  This RAW image is pretty much perfectly exposed. Emphasis on
  _perfectly_. No clipping of highlights; trace clipping of shadows;
  data spread nicely across the entire histogram. It's a really great
  exposure -- and a very good looking plant too, by the way.
 
  An _excellent_ exposure.
 
 The fact that it is an excellent exposure is because I've taken
 about 8 shots with various compensation levels and selected this one
 afterwards by looking on my computer on how good the exposure was.
 However in camera I couldn't have been able to decide between at least
 half of these exposures.

You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident 
and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or, 
you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on 
the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
up to 11, getting the surreal effect)


 
 
  Now, I stand by my original rebuttal: toss your UniWB crud and go
  shooting. What you need is less theory and more practice. :-)
 
 I have a mixed feeling about this. :)

There are a lot of excellent photographers that pooh-pooh delving 
deeply into the technical details.  Many of them are photographers 
with decades of experience who dove head first into technicalities
themselves until they became second nature. Others have just been
shooting so long that they intuitively know all of the things that 
you are exploring about the technical aspects.

Most people cannot get great shots by obsessing about the technical
aspects.  A lot of the time thinking about the technical aspects will
just distract you from getting a great photograph.  This doesn't mean
that the technical aspects are unimportant, what it means is that you
have to know the technical side so completely, that you can nail it
without having to think about it.

Between my own studies, and my teaching, I have learned that people
can only work on learning one thing at a time. What's more, while 
they are concentrating on that one thing, not only will they suck
at other things, but for a while, they will suck at that too. Then
just as they are starting to improve, they will learn what they 
are supposed to be doing, and start noticing that they aren't doing
that and it will seem that they suck even worse.

Don't worry about obsessing over learning technical details, 
just don't forget that technical perfection is only a means 
to the end of great photos and not the only goal of photography.
At least, technical pefection isn't the only goal of photographers
that other people enjoy looking at their work.


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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 May 2013 17:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident
 and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or,
 you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
 on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
 Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on
 the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
 up to 11, getting the surreal effect)

Larry, you're making a heap of sense here. If I screwed around trying
to find the perfect exposure for all of my shots I wouldn't have half
the ones that I really like. I like the idea of getting things
techically perfect, it's the engineer in me I'm sure but artistically
the technical aspects of the shot are generally of far less
consequence than the content/subject matter.

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Re: PESO Vulgar struggles

2013-05-23 Thread Bruce Walker
Yup. We have a Porcelain Berry vine too. :)

But up here in the frozen tundra almost nothing is successfully invasive.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Coddling invasive species, are we?

 :)


 On May 21, 2013, at 16:11 , Bruce Walker wrote:

 Alright, caption's a stretch. :)

 This is a Fern-leaf Dropwort, latin name Filipendula vulgaris. It's
 common in Europe but a specialty item in North America and now hard to
 get here because it's out of fashion. Ours is struggling after a nasty
 winter, so I figured I should document it just in case.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8769786121/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f:8.0, 1/15th sec, ISO 200.

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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

2013-05-23 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I've skimmed this thread with much amusement and more than a little confusion 
(about all the technobabble).

Here's the thing: everything is a compromise. Especially with exposure. There's 
always going to be something in a frame that's over or under exposed. So ya 
gotta work with it in processing (like St. Ansel when he printed).

While ascertaining the best exposure is laudable it's a near impossible task. 
Which is why this obsession with histograms and perfection makes me scratch my 
head.

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various 
tweaks)

On 23 May 2013 17:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident
 and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or,
 you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
 on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
 Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on
 the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
 up to 11, getting the surreal effect)

Larry, you're making a heap of sense here. If I screwed around trying
to find the perfect exposure for all of my shots I wouldn't have half
the ones that I really like. I like the idea of getting things
techically perfect, it's the engineer in me I'm sure but artistically
the technical aspects of the shot are generally of far less
consequence than the content/subject matter.

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Re: PESO - In a Big World

2013-05-23 Thread Mark C

Beautiful and vocative shot, Doug.

On 5/20/2013 11:27 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

In a big world

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/8MWgkB6axQD




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Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

2013-05-23 Thread Mark C
Clever use of the fork and napkin - allowed for the creation of a very 
pleasing image.


On 5/19/2013 1:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon on 
the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great scenery, 
and good friends to enjoy the time.

   http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-napa-valley-wine-train/

enjoy!

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Re: PESO - In a Big World

2013-05-23 Thread Doug Brewer

On 5/23/13 9:36 AM, Mark C wrote:

Beautiful and vocative shot, Doug.

On 5/20/2013 11:27 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

In a big world

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/8MWgkB6axQD






thanks much, Mark. I'm feeling a series.

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Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

2013-05-23 Thread Doug Brewer

On 5/19/13 1:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon on 
the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great scenery, 
and good friends to enjoy the time.

   http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-napa-valley-wine-train/

enjoy!

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Re: Peso Stouffville fire truck

2013-05-23 Thread Mark C

Nice convergence of lines in this shot.

On 5/19/2013 4:11 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

The annual firehall open house was last Saturday. They have a restore
old fire truck that i have been trying to get a few decent shots of,
but they never put it in photographer friendly locations. This was the
best one all day, well actually the only one all day

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17337995

K-5, DFA 50-200, blue BW filter in LR4

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PESO - The adventure continues

2013-05-23 Thread Doug Brewer

 The adventure continues

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/citJsxx9Rqc

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Re: PESO - The adventure continues

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great storytelling. A pretty pic.

Paul
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 The adventure continues
 
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/citJsxx9Rqc
 
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Re: PESO 2013 - 046 - GDG

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the way you've found a way to convey the theme of this trip in a single 
interesting image. It would make a great lead photo for a magazine article 
about the wine train. A ride on that train is now on my bucket list. Love Napa.

Paul
On May 23, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

 On 5/19/13 1:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 We had a guest from out of town and decided to enjoy a nice day's luncheon 
 on the Napa Valley Wine Train. Well worth it: good wine, good food, great 
 scenery, and good friends to enjoy the time.
 
   http://godfreydigiorgi.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-napa-valley-wine-train/
 
 enjoy!
 
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Re: PESO - The adventure continues

2013-05-23 Thread Bruce Walker
Very old world vibe with that styling. Love the image, Doug.

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  The adventure continues

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Re: PESO: Early Rose

2013-05-23 Thread Bruce Walker
Beautiful rosebud, Dan. You may have a developing aphid problem though. ;-)

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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, , various tweaks)

2013-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Walt

It's amazing anyone ever took a decent digital photo before ETTR or
UniWB were devised, really.


Angels. Pin. Dancing.

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RE: Vanishing New York blog features my vintage photos today - yayay!

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Brogden
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Vanishing New York blog features my vintage photos today -
yayay!

Thanks,  Derby -  and all of you who responded (my thank yous are kinda time
related :-) ) and looked.  keep those fingers crossed that this goes beyond
another little 15 mins of fame.

last stat report says 27,500 - that's for the visit to my opening page, far
as I can tell.  can't hardly believe it :-)

ann

On 5/22/2013 16:50, Derby Chang wrote:

 Classic shots, and I love reading an articulate QA from the artist.
 Well done


 On 22/05/2013 10:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 I'm chuffed (like Derby ;-) )

 http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2013/05/east-village-70s-80s.htm
 l

 Blogger Jereniah Moss sent me an email last week asking if he could 
 feature my stuff on his site after a reader of his wrote him about 
 the Back in the Day calendar - I figured I wouldn't mention it until 
 it was actually there.

 Don't know if it will result in any actual sales, but he says he gets 
 a few thousand hits a day on the blog site and on his facebook page.
 He included links to my smugmug page and my cafepress store

 Cross fingers, guys!

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Re: OT Photoshop CC spurs competitive market for Photoshop, , replacement

2013-05-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Joseph McAllister

In the early 80's Microsoft practically gave away their PCs and all
their software to many government offices. They even included the
bookcase for all those maroon boxes with gold lettering. Out went the
Wang terminals, in came the PCs.


I don't remember Microsoft doing hardware. When we got our first office 
computers in the Army, they were from Zenith Data Systems.


The only Microsoft software they ran was MS-DOS 3.3.

The office function was handled by a bundled program called Enable - 
with a spreadsheet, word processor  presentation program.


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Re: Super Secret Spy Lens

2013-05-23 Thread John Celio
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:00 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember a long time ago there was a company called Spiratone that
 advertised in the back of photography magazines.  They usually had
 several pages of adds and had all types of odd stuff for your camera.

 I haven't seen one of these since way back then, but I got a good
 laugh when I saw it today.

 http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/candid-photography-spy-lens/

Pentax made one of those, long ago:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/sold-items/108371-sale-sold-rare-pentax-90-degree-mirror-adapter-clandestine-photography-worldwide.html

The camera shop I used to work at had one used for quite a while. It
was fun to play with, but didn't do any favors to the sharpness of
whatever lens it was attached to. Sometimes I regret not buying it, if
only for the fun of having it around.

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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)

2013-05-23 Thread Walt

On 5/23/2013 3:36 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 23 May 2013 17:44, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


You can spend ages trying to calculate the perfect exposure. Using incident
and spot meters. Chimping the histogram and exposing to the right.  Or,
you could get pretty close to the right exposure, guessing as well as you can
on your camera, then bracket the exposure and choose the best one afterwards.
Or, if you're very ambitious, bracket, then use HDR software to improve on
the dynamic range of the camera. (note, I don't mean dialing the tone mapping
up to 11, getting the surreal effect)

Larry, you're making a heap of sense here. If I screwed around trying
to find the perfect exposure for all of my shots I wouldn't have half
the ones that I really like. I like the idea of getting things
techically perfect, it's the engineer in me I'm sure but artistically
the technical aspects of the shot are generally of far less
consequence than the content/subject matter.

Agreed 100%.

In fact, I regularly use under-exposure to knock down disagreeable 
backgrounds, or for a sense of mood. And when I'm taking what I think is 
a high priority photo and have time to set the camera up, I always 
bracket 2/3. That seems to work reasonably well, albeit not 100% of the 
time. Beyond that, I long ago came to the conclusion that some of my 
favorite images are technical abominations, and some of my crappiest are 
technically excellent.


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Re: PESO - The adventure continues

2013-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely shot and effect

Dave

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  The adventure continues

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RE: PESO - The adventure continues

2013-05-23 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Victorian Gothic.

Very cool!

Cheers,
frank

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  The adventure continues

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RE: Vanishing New York blog features my vintage photos today - yayay!

2013-05-23 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Way cool!!

And deserving, too.

Congrats, Ann!

cheers,
frank

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Sent: May 22, 2013 5/22/13
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Subject: Vanishing New York blog features my vintage photos today - yayay!

I'm chuffed (like Derby ;-) )

http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2013/05/east-village-70s-80s.html

Blogger Jereniah Moss sent me an email last week asking if he could 
feature my stuff on his site after a reader of his wrote him about the 
Back in the Day calendar - I figured I wouldn't mention it until it was 
actually there.

Don't know if it will result in any actual sales, but he says he gets
a few thousand hits a day on the blog site and on his facebook page.
He included links to my smugmug page and my cafepress store

Cross fingers, guys!

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Re: OT - No, it is not Photoshop...

2013-05-23 Thread P.J. Alling

Aren't they the same thing, really?

On 5/23/2013 3:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:21:03PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:


... but life dolls:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/10/17/barbie-flu-spreading-in-ukraine/

and

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2012/05/06/deconstructing-a-ukrainian-barbie/

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Re: Super Secret Spy Lens

2013-05-23 Thread P.J. Alling
Pentax actually made and marketed one of those for the Spotmatic and 
Early K mount cameras.  It was considerably more expensive than the 
Spiratone version.


On 5/23/2013 11:11 AM, George Sinos wrote:

I remember a long time ago there was a company called Spiratone that
advertised in the back of photography magazines.  They usually had
several pages of adds and had all types of odd stuff for your camera.

I haven't seen one of these since way back then, but I got a good
laugh when I saw it today.

http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/candid-photography-spy-lens/

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Re: Super Secret Spy Lens

2013-05-23 Thread Stan Halpin
I used to have one of these, probably the Spiratone version. Used on the front 
of a 135mm lens, I always had trouble lining up the target. The combination of 
a 90° side view and a mirror-image of the scene would have me wildly swinging 
the camera about to try and get centered, and then focused, on anything. I soon 
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quietly point my camera at the desired subject and take the picture without a 
lot of fuss. But it was a fun gadget.

stan

On May 23, 2013, at 2:36 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Pentax actually made and marketed one of those for the Spotmatic and Early K 
 mount cameras.  It was considerably more expensive than the Spiratone version.
 
 On 5/23/2013 11:11 AM, George Sinos wrote:
 I remember a long time ago there was a company called Spiratone that
 advertised in the back of photography magazines.  They usually had
 several pages of adds and had all types of odd stuff for your camera.
 
 I haven't seen one of these since way back then, but I got a good
 laugh when I saw it today.
 
 http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/candid-photography-spy-lens/
 
 GS
 
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PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread Charles Robinson
My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
about 4 to come over.

By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care.. 

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OT - Do I Need to be Excited?

2013-05-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
Apparently there's a new Leica on the way, some say a digital 'CL'.
Do I need to be excited about this??

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/23/leaca-teases-mini-m-for-11th-
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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread Darren Addy
Congratulations Charles (and also to your daughter, who did all the
heavy lifting).

I'm only a first-time rookie Grand-Dad, and she is now 2 years old.
They're special! Enjoy the heck out of them.



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
 about 4 to come over.

 By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

 Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

 Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..

  -Charles

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Re: OT - Do I Need to be Excited?

2013-05-23 Thread P.J. Alling

If you're not planning to eat your hat over it...

Aw heck, I have no idea where i was going with that thought.

On 5/23/2013 5:16 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Apparently there's a new Leica on the way, some say a digital 'CL'.
Do I need to be excited about this??

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/23/leaca-teases-mini-m-for-11th-
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Re: OT - Do I Need to be Excited?

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

Apparently there's a new Leica on the way, some say a digital 'CL'.
Do I need to be excited about this??

Depends how much money you've got. ;-)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/23/leaca-teases-mini-m-for-11th-
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Look at that image on DP Review. Put price tags above each of the
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Re: Fifth PDML Annual

2013-05-23 Thread David J Brooks
Mine arrived the other day, great stuff. I think we need to take up a
cat collection for Doug though, he seems left out

Dave

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 Ditto everything Bruce said. Another fine effort by the contributors and 
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 stan

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 Mine arrived this morning and I had a very enjoyable browse through.
 Top notch editing, content of course, and I completely agree with
 prior comments about the terrific design.

 I'm proud to be a part of it!

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 I got mine today.

 Great work! A nice reminder of the number of excellent photographers on 
 this list.

 DagT

 19. mai 2013 kl. 01:15 skrev kwal...@peoplepc.com:

 Mine arrived yesterday.

 As usual the photos are very, very good, even the ones I don't understand!

 Its the elegant simplicity of the book and layout that just blew me away - 
 the font used, the images on white pages - Wonderful Mark!

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RE: PESO - The adventure continues

2013-05-23 Thread John Coyle
I get a feeling that I'd like to see that in BW, Doug.  There is definitely a 
series looking to be
found.


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  The adventure continues

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/citJsxx9Rqc

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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 23/5/13, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call
at about 4 to come over.

By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/
K5__2447_large.html

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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
AW.

Congratulations!

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
 about 4 to come over.

 By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

 Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

 Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..

  -Charles

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Re: PESO: Early Rose

2013-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Don't you think those little buggers add charm to the image?  G

Yes, I haven't got around to trimming the rose bushes and applying
fertilizer and insecticide.

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On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17361128
 K-r with FA 100 mm f1/2.8 Maro

 Comments are invited.
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Re: OT Photoshop CC spurs competitive market for Photoshop, , replacement

2013-05-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
My bad. In our case (large government facility already running 3 - or 6 - IBM 
360 mainframes) the hardware were all IBM PCs, green-screen monitors, 
keyboards, no mice or trackball. One piece of software was out of place - Lotus 
123 - yellow and blue (green?) box.

They were really sweating that all the secretaries would take forever to learn 
to use them. Production would suffer, tempers would flare. Classes were held, 
etc.. They survived.

My department already had color monitors with light-pens, hooked to the  
mainframes, mostly used for production timing and scheduling.


On May 23, 2013, at 08:04 , John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Joseph McAllister
 In the early 80's Microsoft practically gave away their PCs and all
 their software to many government offices. They even included the
 bookcase for all those maroon boxes with gold lettering. Out went the
 Wang terminals, in came the PCs.
 
 I don't remember Microsoft doing hardware. When we got our first office 
 computers in the Army, they were from Zenith Data Systems.
 
 The only Microsoft software they ran was MS-DOS 3.3.
 
 The office function was handled by a bundled program called Enable - with 
 a spreadsheet, word processor  presentation program.




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PESO: Goat Girl

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, f3.5 
@ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have been had I 
added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in conversion and 
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PESO: Rough Rider

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Riding on a hay wagon at the school farm. We were on an extremely bumpy dirt 
road, and the wagon was bouncing pretty violently, so I had to shoot at ISO 800 
to get enough shutter speed. f2.8 @ 1/5000th. K-5 DA* 16-50:

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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Looks like a keeper! Well done.
Paul
On May 23, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
 about 4 to come over.
 
 By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.
 
 Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html
 
 Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care.. 
 
 -Charles
 
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Re: PESO: Rough Rider

2013-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
She is as cute as ever, and that is a great portrait.

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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Riding on a hay wagon at the school farm. We were on an extremely bumpy dirt 
 road, and the wagon was bouncing pretty violently, so I had to shoot at ISO 
 800 to get enough shutter speed. f2.8 @ 1/5000th. K-5 DA* 16-50:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367532size=lg
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Re: PESO: Goat Girl

2013-05-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
another good one!

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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, 
 f3.5 @ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have 
 been had I added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in 
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 low light performance from the K-5 in spite of some photographer error.

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Re: PESO: Rough Rider

2013-05-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
Paul, she' sure growing up fast!
Nice capture.


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Subject: PESO: Rough Rider

Riding on a hay wagon at the school farm. We were on an extremely bumpy dirt 
road, and the wagon was bouncing pretty violently, so I had to shoot at ISO 
800 to get enough shutter speed. f2.8 @ 1/5000th. K-5 DA* 16-50:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367532size=lg



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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread Boris Liberman

Congratulations!

On 5/24/2013 12:07 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
about 4 to come over.

By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..

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Re: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread kwaller

Congratulations!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com

Subject: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again


My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
about 4 to come over.


By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.

Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html

Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care..

-Charles

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Re: PESO: Goat Girl

2013-05-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

aw
I do love goats :-)
cute!
ann

On 5/23/2013 21:50, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, f3.5 
@ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have been had I 
added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in conversion and 
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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367494



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Re: PESO: Goat Girl

2013-05-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:50:32PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Loving the goats in the barn at the school farm last weekend. . ISO 6400, 
 f3.5 @ 1/400, K-5 DA8 16-50 @ 19mm. It's a bit noisier than it might have 
 been had I added some exposure comp in camera. Had to push it up .7 stop in 
 conversion and tweak curves due to minimal foreground light. But pretty good 
 low light performance from the K-5 in spite of some photographer error.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17367494

No kidding!  That's a great shot.



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Re: PESO: I'm a Grand-Dad again

2013-05-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Big congrats, Charles!  Best to mom and family!  Cheers, Christine



On May 23, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 My daughter started really feeling it around 2a.m., and we got the call at 
 about 4 to come over.
 
 By 8:36 she was all done!  Nice work.
 
 Here he is, less than 20 minutes old:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/arthur_birthday/content/K5__2447_large.html
 
 Feel free to browse the rest of the shots if you care.. 
 
 -Charles
 
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Re: Man near Brown Line

2013-05-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks Dan  Darren and everyone else for the generous comments.  I find the 
shot interesting, but not perfect :-)  Cheers, Christine




On May 22, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 You caught a great expression on his face, and I think the composition
 is strong.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 A curious man.  He used the piece of cardboard to sweep litter, then he'd 
 rest and seemingly contemplate his next move.  I suppose it's unfortunate 
 the black van is behind him, but traffic was heavy, and the passing cars 
 might have proved a greater distraction.  Perhaps the black van simplifies 
 the background as opposed to traffic congestion in the background?  I got a 
 little lucky with the set of 3 men.  Once I took this shot, the curious man 
 knew what was up and turned his back towards me.  Fair enough I thought and 
 went about my business.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/manbrownline/content/_IGP5999_large.html
 
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Re: Milwaukee mini-PDML meetup (GESO)

2013-05-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Big congrats, Paul!  Would have liked to see your exhibition.

And a very nice set of snaps, Stan.  I'll catch up with you guys next time.  
Cheers, Christine



On May 22, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 You've already seen some of Paul's shots from the weekend, and there was a 
 bit of discussion. I'll offer a recap and links to a few of my own images . . 
 .
 
 In late winter, Paul Sorenson alerted the list to an exhibit at the Milwaukee 
 Art Museum (MAM), said exhibit to portray and discuss 75 years of color 
 photography. A handful of us indicated that we might be interested in  
 meeting up to tour the MAM Color Rush exhibit. Paul reminded us of the event 
 a couple of months later; ensuing calendar calibration and cross-check led 
 eventually to a decision to meet in Milwaukee Saturday-Sunday May 18-19. This 
 was changed late last week to Friday-Saturday May 17-18, proving that all 
 involved can be decisive yet flexible and adaptive.
 
 I drove to Chicago Thursday, linking up with Lynn and Bob Sullivan at their 
 home for a quick supper, and then accompanied Bob to the last session of a 
 photo class he has been taking. 
 
 Friday the Sullivan's and I drove separately up to Milwaukee through driving 
 rain, heavy traffic, and occasional road construction. We eventually found 
 our separate ways to the MAM where we met Paul and Marcia. A leisurely stroll 
 through the Color Rush exhibit and gift shop, lunch in the museum café, some 
 wandering about outside (not raining, but cold and windy) trying to capture 
 the impressive architecture of the new part of the museum, back inside for 
 coffee. We then drove to the Mitchell Park Domes, three interconnected 
 distinct indoor environments for displaying plant collections. We walked 
 through the Show Dome, the Arid Dome and the Tropical Dome. We were then 
 politely but firmly told to get out so that the staff could close up for the 
 evening. After stops to check in to motels, etc. we regrouped and Paul and 
 Marcia guided us to a fine restaurant out in the country to the west of 
 Milwaukee.
 
 Saturday morning our first stop was at the New Berlin Public library -- Paul 
 had let slip that he had a collection of his photos on exhibit there, and the 
 Sullivan's and I were determined to check it out. A nice exhibit, a nice 
 collection of images. Then onward to an area Botanical Garden. We spent into 
 the early afternoon at the gardens, wandering, photographing, and sitting and 
 talking. We then adjourned to a nearby sandwich shop for food and more talk. 
 Mid-afternoon we went our separate ways: Sullivan's back to the Chicago area, 
 and Sorenson's back home in the Milwaukee area. I headed north to start the 
 second portion of my around-Lake-Michigan road trip.
 
 Paul with his exhibit: 
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h6ad9477f#h6ad9477f
 
 Overall link to my galleries covering the weekend: 
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/f282004109
 
 Or go directly to:
   Art Museum shots - http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p223223078
   Dome shots - http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p176236337
   Botanical garden - http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400560721
 
 As I said earlier today, 'twas a good time spent with good people.
 
 stan
 
 
 
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Re: GESO - Pentax Q - too qute

2013-05-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Well, 6 of 16 is a curious shot--well, curious lighting.  :-)  The Q looks like 
fun!  Cheers, Christine


On May 20, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 On 15/05/2013 5:00 PM, Bob W wrote:
 On 15 May 2013, at 00:54, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, May 11, 2013, Derby Chang wrote:
 Only two quibbles. Battery life is qrap. My only battery lasted
 2hrs, which ended proceedings quickly. And the Q needs a fast wide
 lens. Otherwise, I am a happy chappy. Ergonomics superb, great
 little sensor, and so darned qute
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/05/pentaxq/index.html
 What's that on top of the Q?
 
 Babedar
 
 B
 
 
 Har.
 
 The finder is the one from the Pentax 43mm in Leica screw mount. It goes well 
 with it I think
 
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