custom slr m-plate slim

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
Yesterday, I ordered the custom slr m-plate slim with the hand strap
attachment.  The USPS was able to get it the 2.9 miles between their 
shop and my office overnight. It is a very well made piece of kit.

That's the good news.

There are two pieces of less than wonderful news.  First of all, the hand 
strap attachment interferes with the battery door on the K-5:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634799370466/

The second bit of bad news is that while it works with my old manfrotto
ballheads, it doesn't work with with my 804RC2 tilt and pan head.  
Since I have two ball heads that take arca-swiss plates, being able to
use it with the tilt-pan head was a far bigger motivation for 
getting it than convenience if I need to use someone else's tripod,
which could well be an RC2 plate.

I've talked to them about doing a swap for their m-plate micro, and
don't anticipate any problems. I'm just hoping I can drive over to
their shop to do so, rather than dealing with mailing it in.


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Re: Modern Tin Types

2013-07-26 Thread Rob Studdert
Cool, I got shot on a 10x8 wet plate tintype today, digital will soon be dead :)

On 25 July 2013 13:06, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote:
 A soldier in Afghanistan has been experimenting with making tin type prints
 of his colleagues:

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Re: custom slr m-plate slim

2013-07-26 Thread John Sessoms

On 7/26/2013 2:51 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Yesterday, I ordered the custom slr m-plate slim with the hand strap
attachment.  The USPS was able to get it the 2.9 miles between their
shop and my office overnight. It is a very well made piece of kit.

That's the good news.

There are two pieces of less than wonderful news.  First of all, the hand
strap attachment interferes with the battery door on the K-5:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634799370466/

The second bit of bad news is that while it works with my old manfrotto
ballheads, it doesn't work with with my 804RC2 tilt and pan head.
Since I have two ball heads that take arca-swiss plates, being able to
use it with the tilt-pan head was a far bigger motivation for
getting it than convenience if I need to use someone else's tripod,
which could well be an RC2 plate.

I've talked to them about doing a swap for their m-plate micro, and
don't anticipate any problems. I'm just hoping I can drive over to
their shop to do so, rather than dealing with mailing it in.




If that's supposed to be the attachment point for a hand strap, I think
you put it on backwards. Have you tried flipping the plate around 180 deg?

I bet it would still work  not block the battery door.

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Re: Modern Tin Types

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
I know you are joking, but the introduction of Jill Enfield's new book
(Jill Enfield's Guide to Photographic Alternative Processes: Popular
Historical and Contemporary Techniques) makes the point that when
photography was introduced and started to become mainstream, painters
throught that their craft was dead. It seems silly to us to think of
painters getting rid of their painting gear, canvases, and paints just
because they now owned a camera (or their neighbor did)... but that's
pretty much what has happened when it comes to film, and especially
darkroom equipment.

One reason that Alternative Processes appeal to me is that regular
film work lasting into the future depends upon manufacturers that
continue to produce film and photographic papers (something that is
going to end at some point and already has for some beloved films and
papers). The only alternative (impractical for most of us) is to have
a stockpile of film and paper for our lifetimes. Alternative Processes
do not rely on such things. You size your own papers with the
light-sensitive combination of chemicals and then they develop in
other chemicals (or simply react to UV light). Your negatives can be
produced on your inkjet printer (from digital images) or produced
analog on paper negatives (possibly adding the fun of building your
own large format camera). It's a big world with lots of different
techniques to explore and hopefully master.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cool, I got shot on a 10x8 wet plate tintype today, digital will soon be dead 
 :)

 On 25 July 2013 13:06, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote:
 A soldier in Afghanistan has been experimenting with making tin type prints
 of his colleagues:

 http://twentytwowords.com/2013/07/24/soldier-in-afghanistan-photographs-comrades-using-civil-war-era-technique-14-pics/

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Re: Semi-OT: silent lens upgrades

2013-07-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Super Takumar doesn't count, but the SMC Takumar screwmount 135/2.5
I've not seen.
Send a picture...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've never seen a screwmount 135/2.5 Takumar design.

 Well I'll have to take pictures then.
 : )
 I've got two copies of the Super Takumar and one copy of the Version 2
 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar (all 135mm f2.5).
 And I've got a SMCP (K) 135mm f2.5 on the way.

 I'm either going to sell the K or the Version 2, but not sure yet
 which. Kinda silly to have both.


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Re: custom slr m-plate slim

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 08:20:04AM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
 On 7/26/2013 2:51 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 Yesterday, I ordered the custom slr m-plate slim with the hand strap
 attachment.  The USPS was able to get it the 2.9 miles between their
 shop and my office overnight. It is a very well made piece of kit.
 
 That's the good news.
 
 There are two pieces of less than wonderful news.  First of all, the hand
 strap attachment interferes with the battery door on the K-5:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634799370466/
 
 The second bit of bad news is that while it works with my old manfrotto
 ballheads, it doesn't work with with my 804RC2 tilt and pan head.
 Since I have two ball heads that take arca-swiss plates, being able to
 use it with the tilt-pan head was a far bigger motivation for
 getting it than convenience if I need to use someone else's tripod,
 which could well be an RC2 plate.
 
 I've talked to them about doing a swap for their m-plate micro, and
 don't anticipate any problems. I'm just hoping I can drive over to
 their shop to do so, rather than dealing with mailing it in.
 
 
 
 If that's supposed to be the attachment point for a hand strap, I think
 you put it on backwards. Have you tried flipping the plate around 180 deg?
 
 I bet it would still work  not block the battery door.

That has crossed my mind. They specifically show the strap being in that
position, closer to the center.  The point is moot however, since the 
mount that has the hand strap won't work with my remaining manfrotto
head. I need to go to the micro plate anyways.

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OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/
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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
 Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
 am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
 cells.)
 
 So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
 PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
 arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
 also find 'em here. Enjoy!
 
 http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/

If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film, 
though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
scanned.
Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
cameras feel nearly disposable.

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little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele

since Darren is bored...

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2651371355_ggjhKb2/Medium

(just hit next for the BW version of that one .)


Building shots...

Nothing here of great interest, just me playing with my new camera -

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2657159712_P9MWfwc/Medium 



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2658349553_p5RjCCV/Medium

Nothing here of great interest, just me playing with my new camera at
different ISO's etc

ann


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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
 Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
 am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
 cells.)

 So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
 PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
 arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
 also find 'em here. Enjoy!

 http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/

 If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

 Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
 though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
 There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
 with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

 He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
 might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
 http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
 ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
 Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
 scanned.
 Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
 Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
 Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
 Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
 Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
 Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
 Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
 Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
 Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
 Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
 Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

 I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
 different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
 cameras feel nearly disposable.

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Re: little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

2013-07-26 Thread Jack Davis
These broke my boredom, Ann. Why am I taken with White Room? Perhaps it's the 
red EXIT and well chosen composition.(?)

Jack


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Subject: little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

since Darren is bored...

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2651371355_ggjhKb2/Medium

(just hit next for the BW version of that one .)


Building shots...

Nothing here of great interest, just me playing with my new camera -

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2657159712_P9MWfwc/Medium


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2658349553_p5RjCCV/Medium

Nothing here of great interest, just me playing with my new camera at
different ISO's etc

ann


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Re: little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:53:34AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
 These broke my boredom, Ann. Why am I taken with White Room? Perhaps it's 
 the red EXIT and well chosen composition.(?)

I like white doors much better.  That is a photo that at first I'd 
think might be better in black and white, but it wouldn't.

And Ann,
welcome to the 21st century, the K-5 is pretty amazing isn't it?

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Re: little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
HA , JAck - actually, I meant not to show white room... you hit next, 
you sneaky thing. :-)


Larry, I like white doors better too.

ann


On 7/26/2013 14:03, Larry Colen wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:53:34AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:

These broke my boredom, Ann. Why am I taken with White Room? Perhaps it's the 
red EXIT and well chosen composition.(?)


I like white doors much better.  That is a photo that at first I'd
think might be better in black and white, but it wouldn't.

And Ann,
welcome to the 21st century, the K-5 is pretty amazing isn't it?



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Re: little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele

answering myself -  well, mm, now I'm liking my white room better too -
oh dear...

But I figured most would go for the bookstore grab.  I was taking
several shtos there of my friend Merrill for testing purposes and then I 
saw the sign.. :-)


ann

On 7/26/2013 14:12, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

HA , JAck - actually, I meant not to show white room... you hit next,
you sneaky thing. :-)

Larry, I like white doors better too.

ann


On 7/26/2013 14:03, Larry Colen wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:53:34AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:

These broke my boredom, Ann. Why am I taken with White Room?
Perhaps it's the red EXIT and well chosen composition.(?)


I like white doors much better.  That is a photo that at first I'd
think might be better in black and white, but it wouldn't.

And Ann,
welcome to the 21st century, the K-5 is pretty amazing isn't it?





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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:50:30PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
 Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912
 
I just saw a reference that 10% of all the photographs ever taken, 
were taken in the past 12 months.

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/07/monarchy-versus-the-panopticon.html#more

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Re: Semi-OT: silent lens upgrades

2013-07-26 Thread Mark C
My guess is that among camera bodies the Pentax LX would probably be a 
contender for King of Silent Upgrades.


On 7/25/2013 10:45 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

Roger Cicala of lensrentals.com talks about silent lens upgrades and
makes a few snarky comments about the blogosphere along the way:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/07/silent-changes

(Figured this was only semi-OT given the recent discussion about lens
differences.)



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Re: Modern Tin Types

2013-07-26 Thread John Sessoms

Being shot at was always a heady experience when the missed.

On 7/26/2013 6:29 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Cool, I got shot on a 10x8 wet plate tintype today, digital will soon be dead :)

On 25 July 2013 13:06, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote:

A soldier in Afghanistan has been experimenting with making tin type prints
of his colleagues:

http://twentytwowords.com/2013/07/24/soldier-in-afghanistan-photographs-comrades-using-civil-war-era-technique-14-pics/




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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread John Sessoms
Boredom is just Nature's way of telling you it's a convenient time to 
take a nap.


On 7/26/2013 12:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/



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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread John Sessoms

... a Christmas tree on each end of the roll.

On 7/26/2013 1:50 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Film vs Digital (in a nutshell) http://www.shoeboxblog.com/?p=32912

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/


If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
scanned.
Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
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PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

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FSF: Reduced from last Fri.

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
FSF: Prices adjusted downwards on my M28 f2.8, K35 f2.0  A35-105mm
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/M28KEH.png (My M28 is now $89 and
includes a Genuine Pentax UV filter).

Also selling either my Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135mm f2.5 (6
element, version 2)
or the optically identical SMC K 135mm f2.5 (that will be here Monday).

LX body with standard FA-1 finder $189 (firm)

All prices plus shipping

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RE: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Gerrit Visser
Lovely, shows the necklace well. (Which I know is the purpose of course :-)
The background colours help define her shoulder nicely as well.

Gerrit

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Subject: PESO Enamel lava

Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Walt Gilbert

Another great photo with another lovely model.

Please tell me you haven't been wasting that valuable resource on 
voice-activated light modification.


-- Walt


On 7/26/2013 2:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

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Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Bruce Walker
That's our story, and we're sticking to it. :-) Thanks, Gerrit.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lovely, shows the necklace well. (Which I know is the purpose of course :-)
 The background colours help define her shoulder nicely as well.

 Gerrit

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 Subject: PESO Enamel lava

 Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps + Nik +
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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 03:14:43PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...
 
 http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

A nice photo of a very lovely young lady. 

I think it may have been slightly improved if she had turned
her face just a bit more towards the light.

Looking a little further down the set, I particularly liked
the photo of your sister in front of the brick wall.  
The pattern of light from the flash makes for an excellent background.

 
 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
 AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30 octa umbrella softbox, left.

umbrella softbox?

 
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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Walt.

Yup, sorry, I'm afraid I enlisted my niece as the light-slave. Sophie
was initially invited on this shoot to be an assistant, but then we
changed our plan to include more age diversity and asked her to come
made-up. As you can see, she outdid herself.

In _this_ shot she's holding the softbox while I shoot her mother, my sis:
http://flic.kr/p/fgQKep


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another great photo with another lovely model.

 Please tell me you haven't been wasting that valuable resource on
 voice-activated light modification.

 -- Walt



 On 7/26/2013 2:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 03:14:43PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

 A nice photo of a very lovely young lady.

 I think it may have been slightly improved if she had turned
 her face just a bit more towards the light.

I agree. Sadly, I had limited time with her to try variations.


 Looking a little further down the set, I particularly liked
 the photo of your sister in front of the brick wall.
 The pattern of light from the flash makes for an excellent background.

Thanks; a spontaneous one. She's a creative, was a child dancer and
has never lost the impulse to cut loose.



 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
 AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30 octa umbrella softbox, left.

 umbrella softbox?

Yup, one of these:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Photo-80cm-315-Octagon-Umbrella-Flash-Softbox-Brolly-Reflector-/300896302632

Best twenty five bucks I've spent in ages. I know it will eventually
break like all cheap umbrellas do, but I can afford to mail-order one
whenever I need another. Folds down to a very small flat package, easy
to carry around. Super light on the monopod, so everyone who was asked
to was able to hold it up.

Thanks, Larry!

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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 04:55:01PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
  K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
  Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
  AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30 octa umbrella softbox, left.
 
  umbrella softbox?
 
 Yup, one of these:
 
 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Photo-80cm-315-Octagon-Umbrella-Flash-Softbox-Brolly-Reflector-/300896302632
 
 Best twenty five bucks I've spent in ages. I know it will eventually
 break like all cheap umbrellas do, but I can afford to mail-order one
 whenever I need another. Folds down to a very small flat package, easy
 to carry around. Super light on the monopod, so everyone who was asked
 to was able to hold it up.

Damn you, I think you just cost me $25 or $50.  My softboxes are a 
pita to set up.  The one downside would be adjusting the light inside.

They look like they might give a more directional light than a conventional
umbrella.  

I'm afraid that my light modifier addiction makes my lens buying addiction
seem tame.  

 
 Thanks, Larry!
 
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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Pretty niece, nice light but , wow, your sister -
Deborah Kerr !

ann

On 7/26/2013 16:42, Bruce Walker wrote:

Thank you, Walt.

Yup, sorry, I'm afraid I enlisted my niece as the light-slave. Sophie
was initially invited on this shoot to be an assistant, but then we
changed our plan to include more age diversity and asked her to come
made-up. As you can see, she outdid herself.

In _this_ shot she's holding the softbox while I shoot her mother, my sis:
http://flic.kr/p/fgQKep


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Another great photo with another lovely model.

Please tell me you haven't been wasting that valuable resource on
voice-activated light modification.

-- Walt



On 7/26/2013 2:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30 octa umbrella softbox, left.




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RE: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Gerrit Visser
The modifiers are much softer than lenses, you could curl up with them?
Get a sandbag though, I don't travel as far as I used to (I am sometimes
Bruce direction-taking sandbag)

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:08 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO Enamel lava

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 04:55:01PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
  K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200; Lr + Ps + Nik 
  + Portraiture; AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30 octa umbrella 
  softbox, left.
 
  umbrella softbox?
 
 Yup, one of these:
 
 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Photo-80cm-315-Octagon-Umbrella-Flash-Softbox-B
 rolly-Reflector-/300896302632
 
 Best twenty five bucks I've spent in ages. I know it will eventually 
 break like all cheap umbrellas do, but I can afford to mail-order one 
 whenever I need another. Folds down to a very small flat package, easy 
 to carry around. Super light on the monopod, so everyone who was asked 
 to was able to hold it up.

Damn you, I think you just cost me $25 or $50.  My softboxes are a pita to
set up.  The one downside would be adjusting the light inside.

They look like they might give a more directional light than a conventional
umbrella.  

I'm afraid that my light modifier addiction makes my lens buying addiction
seem tame.  

 
 Thanks, Larry!
 
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RE: little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

2013-07-26 Thread Gerrit Visser
I like the White Doors, esp the fact that the RH one can't be opened.


Gerrit

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Subject: little GESO (aka 2 or 3 more Pesos with K-5)

since Darren is bored...

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_m
csJ8s/1/2651371355_ggjhKb2/Medium

(just hit next for the BW version of that one .)


Building shots...

Nothing here of great interest, just me playing with my new camera -

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_m
csJ8s/1/2657159712_P9MWfwc/Medium 


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_m
csJ8s/1/2658349553_p5RjCCV/Medium

Nothing here of great interest, just me playing with my new camera at
different ISO's etc

ann


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GESO Car parts

2013-07-26 Thread Don Guthrie
I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car 
nuts or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm 
prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique 
or both.


http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-26 Thread Zos Xavius
So sorta I fixed my 16-45. I will send my worst copy off to CRIS and
have them tighten and align it since I think it has problems beyond
just a wobbly barrel and looks sort of decentered. My fix was simple.
Realizing that when the barrel was aligned and not drooping I was
getting fairly sharp pictures edge to edge a lightbulb went off. I can
just simply add more dimension to the barrel of the lens so it is
tighter inside the tube. I started off cutting a piece of inkjet film
as a shim. It certainly reduced the wobble. I then cut a piece to the
dimensions of the barrel. After noticing an improvement in reducing
the amount of wobble when slid in between the outer and inner barrels
I added a piece of paper to the mix and found it gave just enough
tightness. Zooming is slightly stiffer, but it doesn't seem so tight
it will wear out the zoom cams. I now went from nearly 1/4 of wobble
to maybe 1mm or so. I'm very sharp till the extreme edges of the
frame. And that's at f5. This lens really performs when it is aligned
correctly. I'm going to keep using it this way until something breaks
or it goes bad and will have a decent copy as a backup hopefully. So
if anyone has problems with their 16-45 because the barrel gets loose,
my advice is to just simply shim it and save yourself the $200 CRIS
will ask for. It feels much more robust now. I don't know why pentax
just didn't make the tolerances tighter to begin with. Even with tight
gears there still is a lot of clearance between the inner and outer
barrels and I firmly believe that is what loosens whatever internally
is supposed to be holding it tight. I looked at some pictures of a
deconstructed 16-45, and couldn't see any way to tighten them
internally short of replacing parts where tolerances had become loose.
I think its a horrible design if you ask me. I kind of like the
reverse zoom and it seems to work well with the optical formula
though. It would be really cool for Pentax to update this lens, and
since they discontinued it, I'm hoping some sort of mid-grade
replacement is coming. Hopefully with WR.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 On 7/25/2013 7:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 More to the point, light fall-off in the corners (not vignetting, which is
 darkening caused by an obstruction) is rarely a problem. In Lightroom I
 *add* this effect frequently and only *very* rarely feel the need to correct
 for it.


 I once read a darkroom book where ther author said that it is the rare photo
 that does not benefit from having the corners burned in a bit. Sorta the
 same idea...

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Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Roberts
The wildflowers were amazing throughout the mountains during our trip.
This scene inspired me to say I'm gonna break all the rules and shoot
*into* the sun. (I'm such a rebel...) There was one little flare spot
that was easily touched up in Lightroom (except for the stitched pano,
all the shots I've shown from Italy have been Lightroom-processed-only
- no Photoshop necessary)

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg
The Pentax DA 12-24 again.
 
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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 06:13:32PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 The wildflowers were amazing throughout the mountains during our trip.
 This scene inspired me to say I'm gonna break all the rules and shoot
 *into* the sun. (I'm such a rebel...) 

At least you aren't shooting with one.

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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
I think we are going to need to publish *two* PDML Annuals this year.
One for Mark's Italy shots and one for the rest of us.

Absolutely LOVE it. Keep 'em coming!

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 06:13:32PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 The wildflowers were amazing throughout the mountains during our trip.
 This scene inspired me to say I'm gonna break all the rules and shoot
 *into* the sun. (I'm such a rebel...)

 At least you aren't shooting with one.

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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 05:47:13PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
 I think we are going to need to publish *two* PDML Annuals this year.
 One for Mark's Italy shots and one for the rest of us.

Either that, or break his leg to keep him from travelling and taking 
all of these pictures that make the rest of us look bad.

Never mind, I guess that didn't work the last time.

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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-26 Thread Paul Sorenson
This whole set is quite nice.  I wonder, though, if you could smooth out 
the smile lines a little on Kim and a skosh on the left side of her neck 
and under her chin.


-p

On 7/26/2013 3:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 03:14:43PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp


A nice photo of a very lovely young lady.

I think it may have been slightly improved if she had turned
her face just a bit more towards the light.


I agree. Sadly, I had limited time with her to try variations.



Looking a little further down the set, I particularly liked
the photo of your sister in front of the brick wall.
The pattern of light from the flash makes for an excellent background.


Thanks; a spontaneous one. She's a creative, was a child dancer and
has never lost the impulse to cut loose.




K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30 octa umbrella softbox, left.


umbrella softbox?


Yup, one of these:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Photo-80cm-315-Octagon-Umbrella-Flash-Softbox-Brolly-Reflector-/300896302632

Best twenty five bucks I've spent in ages. I know it will eventually
break like all cheap umbrellas do, but I can afford to mail-order one
whenever I need another. Folds down to a very small flat package, easy
to carry around. Super light on the monopod, so everyone who was asked
to was able to hold it up.

Thanks, Larry!



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RE: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Gerrit Visser
Very lovely photo. It must be great having the time to compose, fiddle etc
with settings when travelling. I seldom get that luxury.

Gerrit

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The wildflowers were amazing throughout the mountains during our trip.
This scene inspired me to say I'm gonna break all the rules and shoot
*into* the sun. (I'm such a rebel...) There was one little flare spot that
was easily touched up in Lightroom (except for the stitched pano, all the
shots I've shown from Italy have been Lightroom-processed-only
- no Photoshop necessary)

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg
The Pentax DA 12-24 again.
 
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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 07:49:11PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote:
 Very lovely photo. It must be great having the time to compose, fiddle etc
 with settings when travelling. I seldom get that luxury.

Hey, some of us don't even get the luxury of travelling.


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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Gerrit Visser wrote:

Very lovely photo. It must be great having the time to compose, fiddle etc
with settings when travelling.

I wouldn't know!

It's mostly see, compose, grab one or two shots and then try to catch
up for me. Knowing your gear and having a range of settings ready to
use is very helpful. Also, having plenty of ideas in mind, both for
photos and for problem-solving strategies, is essential for travel
photography. You only get a moment for a shot.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg

 
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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 08:03:34PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Gerrit Visser wrote:
 
 Very lovely photo. It must be great having the time to compose, fiddle etc
 with settings when travelling.
 
 I wouldn't know!
 
 It's mostly see, compose, grab one or two shots and then try to catch
 up for me. Knowing your gear and having a range of settings ready to
 use is very helpful. Also, having plenty of ideas in mind, both for
 photos and for problem-solving strategies, is essential for travel
 photography. You only get a moment for a shot.

Braggart.  Not only do you go and make us look bad by bringing back these
awesome photos, but now you're telling us that you're doing it by just
shooting from the hip, and not putting any effort into them.

If you didn't do such an amazing job putting together the annual, I'd well 
and truly hate you.

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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 08:03:34PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Gerrit Visser wrote:
 
 Very lovely photo. It must be great having the time to compose, fiddle etc
 with settings when travelling.
 
 I wouldn't know!
 
 It's mostly see, compose, grab one or two shots and then try to catch
 up for me. Knowing your gear and having a range of settings ready to
 use is very helpful. Also, having plenty of ideas in mind, both for
 photos and for problem-solving strategies, is essential for travel
 photography. You only get a moment for a shot.

Braggart.  Not only do you go and make us look bad by bringing back these
awesome photos, but now you're telling us that you're doing it by just
shooting from the hip, and not putting any effort into them.

Oh, there's a *lot* of effort that goes into them. It's called
preparation. :0
 
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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Any moment now I expect Julie Andrews to appear :-)

I like the not into-the-sun shots lots better...

ann


On 7/26/2013 18:13, Mark Roberts wrote:

The wildflowers were amazing throughout the mountains during our trip.
This scene inspired me to say I'm gonna break all the rules and shoot
*into* the sun. (I'm such a rebel...) There was one little flare spot
that was easily touched up in Lightroom (except for the stitched pano,
all the shots I've shown from Italy have been Lightroom-processed-only
- no Photoshop necessary)

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg
The Pentax DA 12-24 again.




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RE: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-26 Thread Gerrit Visser
It just seems to be like drinking out of a fire hose when we travel. We get
5-8 hours to 'see' a port or nearby city, usually with minimal ability to
plan as guide books do not spend much time on port cities. We now avoid tour
buses, taking small private tours, tuktuks, taxis whatever instead which
helps a lot. Esp when you can find others who actually want to take photos
instead of snaps with photo frames (iPads) through dirty bus windows at
60kmh.

I probably do a lot more thinking about my photos as I take them than I
realize. Thankfully my wife now has a K100D instead of a PS and she has a
great eye for photo ops.
I only threw out about 10% of our shots this trip, which still leaves 1
to sort out!

gerrit

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Gerrit Visser wrote:

Very lovely photo. It must be great having the time to compose, fiddle 
etc with settings when travelling.

I wouldn't know!

It's mostly see, compose, grab one or two shots and then try to catch up
for me. Knowing your gear and having a range of settings ready to use is
very helpful. Also, having plenty of ideas in mind, both for photos and for
problem-solving strategies, is essential for travel photography. You only
get a moment for a shot.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg

 
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Wanted to buy

2013-07-26 Thread John Coyle
A fellow photographer in Brisbane is asking if anyone has any Pentax 67 or 
Mamiya RZ67 lenses for
sale.

If anyone has, I'm happy to put you in touch.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 July 2013 03:10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

 Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
 though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
 There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
 with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

 He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
 might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
 http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
 ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
 Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
 scanned.
 Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
 Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
 Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
 Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
 Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
 Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
 Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
 Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
 Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
 Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
 Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

 I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
 different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
 cameras feel nearly disposable.

I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...

In the case of latitude on film vs digital my theory is that people
are far more likely to hold back exposure to prevent burning out
highlights in digital media because it's so obvious, especially when
working in colour. In the case of BW film you can burn baby burn and
even at max density there is still a relatively soft transition into
the normally exposed areas and of course there are no giveaway colour
shifts. I'm betting that the Leica M-Monochrom would seem a lot more
film like.


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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert wrote:

I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...

I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely like
a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and Frank Theriault being
amongst my favorite practitioners!) but I've noticed that the people
who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people who write
about it tend to give my dry heaves.
 
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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Darren Addy
I tend to feel the same way about Photoshop gurus. (Not really, just
feeling like a smartburro.)

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Rob Studdert wrote:

I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...

 I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely like
 a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and Frank Theriault being
 amongst my favorite practitioners!) but I've noticed that the people
 who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people who write
 about it tend to give my dry heaves.

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Re: Semi-OT: silent lens upgrades

2013-07-26 Thread Joseph McAllister

Doesn't solve that problem. Now they just call you or email you with the same 
crap!

Need your carpets cleaned?

I'm thinking of getting another phone line/number that is auto forwarded to the 
caller ID of any incoming calls. 

Placing your number on the the Do Not Call list the FCC runs does absolutely 
no good. 
If you google one of the numbers that call, you will see websites that listed 
the number in 2009 as being in violation of the DNC law.

On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:34 , Mark Roberts wrote:

 More likely 0% compliance. In my experience nothing clears a street
 faster than someone with a clipboard taking a survey. I'll walk blocks
 out of my way to avoid 'em.


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K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys

I've been shooting for several days no problem...
suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
shows an image of the green button.

The greeen screen flashes F-- doesnt show iso...

I have no idea what I've done...

on the first screen when I press menu  the first 4 lines of info is 
bright white  the 'lens Correction is grey.


I'm thinking I got in trouble fooling around with that but I cant
get there now.

anyone?

ann

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PESO: René Magritte, Postmaster General

2013-07-26 Thread Matthew Hunt
http://abattoir5.com/picture.php?/350

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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Mark C
Thanks for posting that. Personally, I agree with many of his points and 
appreciate him sharing his evolution into the analog world.


Personally. I like film because I like the process and results. I like 
digital for the same reasons. And hand shadows And most anything 
esle that I've decided to do more than once.


Mark




On 7/26/2013 12:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)

So here is a well thought-out blog post that anyone who enjoys STREET
PHOTOGRAPHY will get a kick out of. And if you want to read some
arguments for why Film is Not Yet Dead (it just smells funny), you'll
also find 'em here. Enjoy!

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/04/22/why-digital-is-dead-for-me-in-street-photography/



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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 I've been shooting for several days no problem...
 suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
 that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
 i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
 the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
 shows an image of the green button.
 
 The greeen screen flashes F-- doesnt show iso...

Guessing here so you have a fast response:

* Turn camera off, pull battery
* Take lens off, put on different lens
* Turn camera back on

If that works, repeat process to put back first lens.  If that fails,
you have a lens problem (someone else posted about a failing lens doing
that recently).  If it works, you either have a glitchy lens or a weak
connection due to a slight misalignment of the mount, hopefully it won't
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Zos Xavius
If you ask me it sounds like the lens isn't communicating with the
body. Did you try cleaning all the contacts? If it has an aperture
ring also try rotating off A and back. Since its not reading the lens
type and focal length, I'm guessing its just not talking. I don't know
if the electronics go bad in them. I've gotten an 18-55 so wet that my
camera wouldn't recognize it once and it dried out and was fine
eventually. Also try another lens if you haven't already.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys

 I've been shooting for several days no problem...
 suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
 that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
 i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
 the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
 shows an image of the green button.

 The greeen screen flashes F-- doesnt show iso...

 I have no idea what I've done...

 on the first screen when I press menu  the first 4 lines of info is bright
 white  the 'lens Correction is grey.

 I'm thinking I got in trouble fooling around with that but I cant
 get there now.

 anyone?

 ann

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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ann,
Put the original lens you were using on the camera,
or put the lens back to the A aperture setting.
We don't use the aperture ring on the K-5 unless you've set-up for it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 I've been shooting for several days no problem...
 suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
 that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
 i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
 the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
 shows an image of the green button.

 The greeen screen flashes F-- doesnt show iso...

 Guessing here so you have a fast response:

 * Turn camera off, pull battery
 * Take lens off, put on different lens
 * Turn camera back on

 If that works, repeat process to put back first lens.  If that fails,
 you have a lens problem (someone else posted about a failing lens doing
 that recently).  If it works, you either have a glitchy lens or a weak
 connection due to a slight misalignment of the mount, hopefully it won't
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP! (got help)

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele

my hero!

yup that did it!

Posting this publicly  - since it worked... just as you said...

now I can sleep  phew!

thanks much

ann


On 7/26/2013 23:03, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I've been shooting for several days no problem...
suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
shows an image of the green button.

The greeen screen flashes F-- doesnt show iso...


Guessing here so you have a fast response:

* Turn camera off, pull battery
* Take lens off, put on different lens
* Turn camera back on

If that works, repeat process to put back first lens.  If that fails,
you have a lens problem (someone else posted about a failing lens doing
that recently).  If it works, you either have a glitchy lens or a weak
connection due to a slight misalignment of the mount, hopefully it won't
recur if you ensure a good lock.



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Re: Modern Tin Types

2013-07-26 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-07-26 14:49, John Sessoms wrote:

Being shot at was always a heady experience when the missed.


Being Shot At  Being Shot

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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread steve harley

on 2013-07-26 10:43 Darren Addy wrote

Nobody is posting this morning and so I'm bored to tears. (Actually, I
am never bored. I find boredom to be the sign of a mind lacking brain
cells.)


boredom is an essential human state and crucial to spiritual development


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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
I'd bet that the parts for a lens come from many different sources that 
specialize in the part they are producing for such a lens, or even a camera 
body. 

Ricoh - Pentax may design a lens, but with some in-house exceptions, the parts, 
barrel, motors, circuit boards, flat cables, switches, and parts that require 
being machined, all are ordered out-sourced.

Look at the Boeing 787, Almost all of it is manufactured around the world (at 
least it was originally, until they found out how shoddy some of the parts 
were). But everything comes together here in Everett and their back east (N. 
Carolina??) factory. Same with the automobile manufacturing process. It was big 
news when Apple announced they would be making the new Mac Pro in the US. Of 
course, I think they mean assembling a percentage of it. The same with the 
glasses you are wearing to read this. Think the frame designers have the 
machines to make the little tiny screws that hold them together? And you know 
the optics come from elsewhere, ground from blanks that come from somewhere 
else. 

Few companies qualify to be shown on How it's Made without showing you that 
some part of the product is delivered, except maybe the Swiss Army Knife and 
the LeatherMan.


On Jul 25, 2013, at 16:14 , David Parsons wrote:

 I can't imagine that crowdsourcing is capable of raising enough money
 to shut down a production line, retool, and make new product.




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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-26 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 Few companies qualify to be shown on How it's Made without showing
 you that some part of the product is delivered, except maybe the Swiss
 Army Knife and the LeatherMan.

They mine their own iron ore?
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Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush

2013-07-26 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377

Looks like a bee bush to me!

More seriously, is that heavily cropped or out-of-focus or what?  It
seems a bit fuzzier than the pictures you usually post.
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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-26 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, John wrote:

 I finally gave in to the badgering  installed the latest version of
 Firefox. Got rid of the nag tab, but it ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE slower
 to load anything than the previous version I was using.

One order of magnitude would be ten times slower.  Orders plural means
at least two orders of magnitude or more than a hundred times slower.
Unless you're being figurative, there's something seriously wrong with
your computer that you need to diagnose.  (Firefox has been roughly
speed-stable for me since 2.0, maybe even a bit faster over time, but
it's hard to separate out varying network effects.)
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Re: Just got an Amazon Deal alert!

2013-07-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
They frequently are trolling for newbies with their pricing.


On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:41 , John wrote:

 You didn't even mention the Pentax K110D 6.1MP Digital SLR kit for $829.99 or 
 the Pentax K100D 6.1MP Digital SLR Camera for $829.99
 
 
 On 7/24/2013 8:44 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
 I don't know what's more amazing, that they think that anyone would pay
 $600. for it or that they still have 5 brand new ones in stock.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0028N7442/ref=pe_62860_31277760_email_1p_3_lm
 
 


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Re: PESO: René Magritte, Postmaster General

2013-07-26 Thread David Mann
On Jul 27, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

 http://abattoir5.com/picture.php?/350

:)

First thing I thought of with that title was the Paul Simon song.

Cheers,
Dave



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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Bill

On 26/07/2013 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys

I've been shooting for several days no problem...
suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
shows an image of the green button.

The greeen screen flashes F-- doesnt show iso...

I have no idea what I've done...
Sounds like you've either mounted a non A series lens, or have moved the 
aperture ring off A on an A series lens.


bill


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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Bill

On 26/07/2013 7:15 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 27 July 2013 03:10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


If hipness could kill, he'd be in the ICU.

Seriously though, there is a lot that you can learn from shooting film,
though most of it could be applied to shooting with a digital camera.
There is nothing preventing you from taking care to set up each photo
with digital, and then move on after it has been taken.

He talks about the dynamic range of film, and to my surprise Tri-X
might exceed the dynamic range of the K-5 at ASA 400
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/dynamic.html
ItemNumeric Stops of range in subject
Polaroid Sprintscan 120 scanner 3.9dDepends on the film being 
scanned.
Tmax 400 film (0.58 CI) 3.4d19.5 stops
Tmax 100 film (0.58 CI) 3.0d17 stops
Tri-X 35mm film (0.58 CI)   2.4d13.5 stops
Kodak DCS Pro 14n digital   69dB11.5 stops
Fuji Finepix S3 digital camera  --  10 stops (estimated)
Tri-X 35mm film (0.75 CI)   2.4d10.5 stops
Nikon D2x digital camera--  9.5 stops (measured)
Typical LCD display 500:1   9 stops
Kodachrome 25, 64, 200 (1.4 gamma)  3.7d8 stops
Ektachrome 100 (1.4 gamma)  3.4d7.5 stops
Human eye (no iris change)  150:1   7 stops

I will say that the kinesthetic experience of using a film camera is
different than that of using a digital. In comparison, most digital
cameras feel nearly disposable.

I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...

In the case of latitude on film vs digital my theory is that people
are far more likely to hold back exposure to prevent burning out
highlights in digital media because it's so obvious, especially when
working in colour. In the case of BW film you can burn baby burn and
even at max density there is still a relatively soft transition into
the normally exposed areas and of course there are no giveaway colour
shifts. I'm betting that the Leica M-Monochrom would seem a lot more
film like.


His numbers are whacked out. Tri-X is hard pressed to give more than a 
10 stop range, and you had better be prepared to do some really 
deliberate exposure and development to get it to 10 stops, much less 
anything greater, and there wasn't a Kodachrome made that would give 
more than a 6 stop range.
The K5, with it's 14 stop range is comfortably better than ANY colour 
film ever made, and can only be outdone in dynamic range by BW film by 
extreme over exposure/extreme under development. N-4 or N-5 development 
will hit close to 14 stops with FP-4  (been there, done that, have the 
picture to prove it), but you are exposing the film at something like 
ISO 6 and then giving the film a reach around to get it to cooperate.


bill

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Re: OT: Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography

2013-07-26 Thread Bill

On 26/07/2013 7:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Rob Studdert wrote:
... but I've noticed that the people
who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people who write
about it tend to give my dry heaves.
  

um. MARK!!

bill

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