Re: PESO -- Sunset Cruise

2013-09-04 Thread Bob W
On 3 Sep 2013, at 23:55, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 
 We bow to your superior knowledge. A punt thread is definitely something
 we canoe without.
 
 Bollards.
 
 Did you mean rowlocks?
 
 Shove it up your porthole.
 
Anchor!



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Re: PESO: Hideout

2013-09-04 Thread David Mann
On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:09 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 Spotted this little guy hanging out in the crook of one of the hummingbird 
 feeder stands a little while ago. At first, I thought it was just a piece of 
 gum someone had stuffed in there, but decided to take a closer look and was 
 delighted to discover that I was wrong.
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9663303049/#large

Very nice.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO -- Sunset Cruise

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Dunderdale

On 4 Sep 2013, at 08:01, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 On 3 Sep 2013, at 23:55, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 
 We bow to your superior knowledge. A punt thread is definitely something
 we canoe without.
 
 Bollards.
 
 Did you mean rowlocks?
 
 Shove it up your porthole.
 Anchor!

The schooner this thread ends, the better.

. Ywwlll 



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Re: OT: What to put on RAMDisk for LR ?

2013-09-04 Thread Boris Liberman
IMHO, 4GB of RAMDisk cannot generate any serious benefit for LR.

Sorry, Igor.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 Hi All,

 By virtues of various mishaps and troubles, my laptop ended up
 having 8GB of RAM.
 However, it has win7-32bit system, which without special hacks cannot
 address more than just under 4Gb of RAM.

 Those hacks while working for some setups, seem to be having problems
 with the HD graphics drivers for Win7 from Intel (and my graphics card
 is from Intel).
 http://wj32.org/wp/2011/02/23/pae-patch-updated-for-windows-7-sp1/
 (and there are couple of others).

 So, the alternative way of using that extra memory is to create a
 vritual drive in the memory.
 One example would be RAMDisk:
 http://memory.dataram.com/support/ramdisk-support-center/ramdisk-product-support-faq

 This way, I could have 4GB RAMdisk partition, which presumably is about
 10 time faster than the SSD I have (~5000 MB/s vs ~400-500 MB/s)
 So, my question is: if I wanted to speed up LR on this laptop,
 what should I put on that RAMdisk partition?
 I can see two possibilities:
 1. LR catalog (this would probably include the previews? I am not aware
 how I could have the catalog and previews on different drives, could I?)

 2. The current photo collection.

 If it is #2, the procedure would have to be as follows:
 a) From within LR move the imported collection to RAMDisk.
 b) Work on it.
 c) Move it back.
 (This way I don't need to find it.)
 Is there a better way of accomplishing that?

 Any other ideas?

 Igor

 PS. No, 64-bit OS is not an option at the moment.
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Re: PESO - Herkey Jerkey

2013-09-04 Thread Mark C
I think it is the edge of a food storage container... probably only 
about 1 inch of it showing in the frame here. Camera motion applied, of 
course...


Mark

On 9/3/2013 9:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Ok -what is it???

ann

On 9/3/2013 20:38, Mark C wrote:

Thanks for looking... as for film well, um, it's kinda hard to
describe (but it works!)


On 9/3/2013 1:42 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 2/9/13, Mark C, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2013/09/02/herkey-
jerkey?blog=8

Oooh! Made me look!



*ist film camera, Tamron 90mm f2.8 macro, Pro Max 100 film, HC110.

What the hell is film???!!











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Olympus financial scandal not over yet

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23955003

 the potential financial impact of this prosecution on Olympus
group's business is unclear
 
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Re: PESO: Hideout

2013-09-04 Thread Walt

On 9/4/2013 2:13 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:09 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:


Spotted this little guy hanging out in the crook of one of the hummingbird 
feeder stands a little while ago. At first, I thought it was just a piece of 
gum someone had stuffed in there, but decided to take a closer look and was 
delighted to discover that I was wrong.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9663303049/#large

Very nice.

Cheers,
Dave

Thank you, Dave!

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September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually  
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a  
different take on the theme.


As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not  
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the  
gallery, let me know.


+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos  
permitted...


Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

* Nominal closing date: 30 September.
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Cheers

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Re: OT: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 My definition of iconic is identical to that of the U.S. Supreme
 Court's definition of pornography: I know it when I see it.
 
 As for that list, I found most of the color images to NOT be iconic.
 And I think there was AT LEAST one huge omission: Where was the photo
 of the lone guy standing in front of the tank in Tienanman Square?
 Surely that one is Top 25.

The Tienanman Square pic is in the mix. I think it's 23 or 24. I didn't see a 
big split between color and BW in terms of what might be considered iconic, 
other than that some of the color pics are newer and can't really be said to 
have passed the test of time. (Clinton hugging Lewinsky, for example). But any 
such list is going to be highly subjective, and it was entertaining to see one 
editor's take on it.

Paul
 
 On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/the-flag-iconic-images/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
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Re: PESO -- Sunset Cruise

2013-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote:

 
 On 4 Sep 2013, at 08:01, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 On 3 Sep 2013, at 23:55, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 
 We bow to your superior knowledge. A punt thread is definitely something
 we canoe without.
 
 Bollards.
 
 Did you mean rowlocks?
 
 Shove it up your porthole.
 Anchor!
 
 The schooner this thread ends, the better.
 
 . Ywwlll 

Yeah, this thread has outlived it's porpoise and should be clippered. 

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OT: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/the-flag-iconic-images/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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Re: PESO: Mushroom on Wood

2013-09-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Dan, click on the title of the blog entry (or right-click save as
link) for the individual entry. Eg:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2013/9/3/mushroom-on-wood

This presentation adds mightily to the enjoyment of your shots, both
of which are very good. I really like the earthy tones in them.


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Bob.  I'm not certain at this point whether I can post links
 to individual images on the page, or if I have to find some other way
 to do that.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's a very elegant page - hugely better than photo.net.

 B

 On 3 Sep 2013, at 16:36, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 For Ann and anyone else still having trouble with photo.net, I have
 posted this on Squarespace:

 https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos

 I am still figuring out how best to configure my PESOs on Squarespace,
 so any comments on the PESO blog there, the appearance of the image
 and the text, and anything else will be greatly appreciated.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Firefox is being very annoying with photos on photo net and flickr
 I get a blank white screen when I jsut click the hotlinks

 I was able to see Collin's earlier by copy and pasting link into chrome, 
 but
 that gets tedious.

 anyone know what's going on?

 ann




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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17516903
 Comments are invited.

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Re: OT: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread Darren Addy
My definition of iconic is identical to that of the U.S. Supreme
Court's definition of pornography: I know it when I see it.

As for that list, I found most of the color images to NOT be iconic.
And I think there was AT LEAST one huge omission: Where was the photo
of the lone guy standing in front of the tank in Tienanman Square?
Surely that one is Top 25.

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/the-flag-iconic-images/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Darren Addy
I also thought that Thrainn Vigfusson's Strips of Green LEDs was a
visual stunner, if unimaginatively named. :)
I also especially liked Ken's Heading South and Jan's Midnight at the Pool.

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 A very interesting gallery with the usual degree of licence. Ken's Heading
 South (1/15sec @ 600mm) is amazing - with a hand as steady as that, he
 should consider being a sniper. Darren's Impossible Ride makes my head
 spin just looking at it. I regained my balance looking at Brian's Full Moon
 Rising.

 Alan

 -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
 Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 3:19 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up


 G'day all

 Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

 Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually
 stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a
 different take on the theme.

 As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/

 (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
 there).

 Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
 infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
 gallery, let me know.

 +

 Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos
 permitted...

 Submit here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 Submission Guidelines here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

 The main requirements are:
 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
 * Max file size: 300k
 * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
 or lens used is Pentax.
 * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to
 ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.
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 Cheers

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Alan C
A very interesting gallery with the usual degree of licence. Ken's Heading 
South (1/15sec @ 600mm) is amazing - with a hand as steady as that, he 
should consider being a sniper. Darren's Impossible Ride makes my head 
spin just looking at it. I regained my balance looking at Brian's Full Moon 
Rising.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 3:19 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a
different take on the theme.

As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos
permitted...

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.
* Nominal closing date: 30 September.
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Brian

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread P.J. Alling
No reflection on you Brian, you're work is highly appreciated, but 
perhaps you should re-institute the open gallery portion of the PUG.  I 
didn't really have a long exposure image I thought was worthy, so I 
didn't submit anything, but that doesn't seem to have stopped everyone.  
This one


http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/JK-pentaxlongexpo.html

violates the basic requirement of this month's theme.  It's a pretty 
picture but it ain't no long exposure, nor is it even a cleaver such as 
this


http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/RW-NewHampshire-8-13-27.html

a photograph of the results of long exposure, damn, I wish I'd thought 
of that.


It's a nice gallery though. I'm impressed by all of the images, even the 
one that doesn't really belong.


On 9/4/2013 9:19 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually 
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a 
different take on the theme.


As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not 
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery, let me know.


+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos 
permitted...


Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body 
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to 
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

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Re: OT: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You have to click on the double arrow to see the last 5 images.
Clicking on 22 goes to the Tienanman Square image.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 My definition of iconic is identical to that of the U.S. Supreme
 Court's definition of pornography: I know it when I see it.

 As for that list, I found most of the color images to NOT be iconic.
 And I think there was AT LEAST one huge omission: Where was the photo
 of the lone guy standing in front of the tank in Tienanman Square?
 Surely that one is Top 25.

 On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/the-flag-iconic-images/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

 Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: Mushroom on Wood

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bruce, for your kind comment on the images, as well as for the
help in navigating squarespace.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan, click on the title of the blog entry (or right-click save as
 link) for the individual entry. Eg:
 https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2013/9/3/mushroom-on-wood

 This presentation adds mightily to the enjoyment of your shots, both
 of which are very good. I really like the earthy tones in them.


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks, Bob.  I'm not certain at this point whether I can post links
 to individual images on the page, or if I have to find some other way
 to do that.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's a very elegant page - hugely better than photo.net.

 B

 On 3 Sep 2013, at 16:36, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 For Ann and anyone else still having trouble with photo.net, I have
 posted this on Squarespace:

 https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos

 I am still figuring out how best to configure my PESOs on Squarespace,
 so any comments on the PESO blog there, the appearance of the image
 and the text, and anything else will be greatly appreciated.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Firefox is being very annoying with photos on photo net and flickr
 I get a blank white screen when I jsut click the hotlinks

 I was able to see Collin's earlier by copy and pasting link into chrome, 
 but
 that gets tedious.

 anyone know what's going on?

 ann




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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17516903
 Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO - Football in the Front Yard

2013-09-04 Thread George Sinos
Thanks everyone for looking and commenting.

Bob - I'd like to take credit for thinking about echoing the pose, but
it was really a random event.  I was shooting photos of the kids a few
days ago.  Then, when I wrote the football blog post, the recent group
shot popped into my mind.

GS
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www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's superb. Did you deliberately echo their pose? If so, what a genius 
 idea; if not, what luck!

 B

 On 3 Sep 2013, at 14:19, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are over a dozen years between the two photos in this post.

 http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/9/2/fall-football

 The first is a shot of my two oldest grandkids playing football in the
 front yard.  I shot it with my old Spotmatic (Honeywell, by the way)
 with the screwmount 50mm, f/1.4 lens on Kodacolor.  The negative was
 scanned and not much was done to it in Lightroom.

 The second photo is a group portrait from a few days ago.  The
 technology was a little different.  Digital camera, multiple remote
 flashes, softbox, and more stuff I didn't have when the first photo
 was taken.

 The technology changed a lot but the most important thing to me is how
 the kids have changed.  The little one, of course, wasn't even born
 when the first photo was taken and the two older kids are well into
 their teens.

 As much as we talk about tech, and brand names and details, in the end
 I think photos like these are why photography is important to most
 people.

 gs

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Re: PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a unique and compelling image!

I think that the red and blue lights add to the shot, but I might be
tempted to crop out or clone out the bright white light.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of mine a
 little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
 K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8

 The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes before I
 hassled it away with my camera.

 Comments welcomed and encouraged.

 Thanks!

 -- Walt

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread P.J. Alling
Of course I have no excuse for that first construction, forgetting the 
word not really screws it up.


On 9/4/2013 12:43 PM, aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com wrote:
That should be you are work, it should be your work.  Dammed spell 
checker traditiona


On 9/4/2013 9:42 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
No reflection on you Brian, you're work is highly appreciated, but 
perhaps you should re-institute the open gallery portion of the PUG.  
I didn't really have a long exposure image I thought was worthy, so I 
didn't submit anything, but that doesn't seem to have stopped 
everyone.  This one


http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/JK-pentaxlongexpo.html

violates the basic requirement of this month's theme.  It's a pretty 
picture but it ain't no long exposure, nor is it even a cleaver such 
as this


http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/RW-NewHampshire-8-13-27.html

a photograph of the results of long exposure, damn, I wish I'd 
thought of that.


It's a nice gallery though. I'm impressed by all of the images, even 
the one that doesn't really belong.


On 9/4/2013 9:19 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually 
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a 
different take on the theme.


As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous 
Gallery there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's 
not infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it 
in the gallery, let me know.


+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos 
permitted...


Submit here:

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Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera 
body or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to 
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

* Nominal closing date: 30 September.









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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com
That should be you are work, it should be your work.  Dammed spell 
checker traditiona


On 9/4/2013 9:42 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
No reflection on you Brian, you're work is highly appreciated, but 
perhaps you should re-institute the open gallery portion of the PUG.  
I didn't really have a long exposure image I thought was worthy, so I 
didn't submit anything, but that doesn't seem to have stopped 
everyone.  This one


http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/JK-pentaxlongexpo.html

violates the basic requirement of this month's theme.  It's a pretty 
picture but it ain't no long exposure, nor is it even a cleaver such 
as this


http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/RW-NewHampshire-8-13-27.html

a photograph of the results of long exposure, damn, I wish I'd thought 
of that.


It's a nice gallery though. I'm impressed by all of the images, even 
the one that doesn't really belong.


On 9/4/2013 9:19 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually 
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a 
different take on the theme.


As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's 
not infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in 
the gallery, let me know.


+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos 
permitted...


Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body 
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to 
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

* Nominal closing date: 30 September.






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photoshop/lightroom just got cheaper

2013-09-04 Thread George Sinos
Adobe just announced at Photoshop world that Photoshop, Lightroom and
some online features will be $9.95/mo going forward.  That's the
regular price, not a limited promotion.

gs


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Re: OT: What to put on RAMDisk for LR ?

2013-09-04 Thread P.J. Alling
If you can specify a scratch disk there, it would speed processing up 
quite a bit.


On 9/3/2013 11:54 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Hi All,

By virtues of various mishaps and troubles, my laptop ended up
having 8GB of RAM.
However, it has win7-32bit system, which without special hacks cannot
address more than just under 4Gb of RAM.

Those hacks while working for some setups, seem to be having problems
with the HD graphics drivers for Win7 from Intel (and my graphics card
is from Intel).
http://wj32.org/wp/2011/02/23/pae-patch-updated-for-windows-7-sp1/
(and there are couple of others).

So, the alternative way of using that extra memory is to create a
vritual drive in the memory.
One example would be RAMDisk:
http://memory.dataram.com/support/ramdisk-support-center/ramdisk-product-support-faq

This way, I could have 4GB RAMdisk partition, which presumably is about
10 time faster than the SSD I have (~5000 MB/s vs ~400-500 MB/s)
So, my question is: if I wanted to speed up LR on this laptop,
what should I put on that RAMdisk partition?
I can see two possibilities:
1. LR catalog (this would probably include the previews? I am not aware
how I could have the catalog and previews on different drives, could I?)

2. The current photo collection.

If it is #2, the procedure would have to be as follows:
a) From within LR move the imported collection to RAMDisk.
b) Work on it.
c) Move it back.
(This way I don't need to find it.)
Is there a better way of accomplishing that?

Any other ideas?

Igor

PS. No, 64-bit OS is not an option at the moment.
I might do that later.






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PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread Walt
While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of mine 
a little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8

The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes 
before I hassled it away with my camera.


Comments welcomed and encouraged.

Thanks!

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Re: PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread Walt

Thanks, Dan!

I actually thought about doing that with the white spots, but decided 
I'd probably end up doing more harm than good.


It was the one real concern I had with the image, so I figured I'd get 
some input. I'll do a little burning to see if I can take some of the 
edge off.


-- Walt

On 9/4/2013 12:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a unique and compelling image!

I think that the red and blue lights add to the shot, but I might be
tempted to crop out or clone out the bright white light.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of mine a
little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8

The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes before I
hassled it away with my camera.

Comments welcomed and encouraged.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: OT: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, I wouldn't deny any a place. Degrees notwithstanding.

Jack



From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
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Subject: OT: Are these images iconic?


http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/the-flag-iconic-images/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Igor Roshchin


I have a question for John Sessoms:
John, you wrote for your photo:
This is not an HDR image. It is a blend of 4 exposures 2 sec to 45 sec
using layer masks  blend modes.
How is it different from HDR? 
As I understand this description, you used 4 different length exposures
and combined them in one images. Just because you were not using a
program/module that is called HDR, but rather implemented the same
functionality manually, it doesn't change the essence of the process.

IMHO, there is nothing wrong with the HDR process itself. What sometimes
is wrong (or rather not even wrong, but just not tasteful, which is
by itself subjective) is how some people use it.

I see that some people run away from labels that developed some stigma,
just because of the labels, not because of what is behind them. 
Unless I misunderstood you, it is a similar situation here.

Classic example is that MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) which is
based on NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) does not have the word
nuclear in the name, so that people are not afraid to do it.
[BTW, it has nothing to do with the context of nuclear reactions,
which people are so scared about. Unlike in nuclear reactions, 
nuclei used in NMR are stable and do not change.]

 
Igor



 -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
 Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 3:19 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up


 G'day all

 Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

 Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually
 stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a
 different take on the theme.

 As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/


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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 I have a question for John Sessoms:
 John, you wrote for your photo:
 This is not an HDR image. It is a blend of 4 exposures 2 sec to 45 sec
 using layer masks  blend modes.
 How is it different from HDR?

I would say that the difference is that in HDR imaging (as the term
is generally used) at some point (prior to tone-mapping) you produce a
scene-referred high-dynamic-range image. This requires understanding
or measuring the quantitative exposure relationship between the input
LDR images, allowing the software to know (for example) that a bright
point in the HDR image is 1,000,000 times brighter in the original
scene than a darker point.

What John did is more akin to exposure fusion, as performed by the
Enfuse software for example (although it sounds like John blended
images manually). In exposure fusion, the pixels in the output image
are a weighted average of the pixels in the input image (with weights
varying from pixel to pixel), but exposure fusion algorithms don't
need to know the quantitative relationships between the exposures...
they can just prefer to weight pixels that are well exposed (i.e.
near the middle of the LDR exposure range).

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Re: OT: What to put on RAMDisk for LR ?

2013-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
After thinking about it some more, I agree with Boris. Even my cache is set to 
10 gig. 

Godfrey


On Sep 4, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 IMHO, 4GB of RAMDisk cannot generate any serious benefit for LR.
 
 Sorry, Igor.
 
 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 By virtues of various mishaps and troubles, my laptop ended up
 having 8GB of RAM.
 However, it has win7-32bit system, which without special hacks cannot
 address more than just under 4Gb of RAM.
 
 Those hacks while working for some setups, seem to be having problems
 with the HD graphics drivers for Win7 from Intel (and my graphics card
 is from Intel).
 http://wj32.org/wp/2011/02/23/pae-patch-updated-for-windows-7-sp1/
 (and there are couple of others).
 
 So, the alternative way of using that extra memory is to create a
 vritual drive in the memory.
 One example would be RAMDisk:
 http://memory.dataram.com/support/ramdisk-support-center/ramdisk-product-support-faq
 
 This way, I could have 4GB RAMdisk partition, which presumably is about
 10 time faster than the SSD I have (~5000 MB/s vs ~400-500 MB/s)
 So, my question is: if I wanted to speed up LR on this laptop,
 what should I put on that RAMdisk partition?
 I can see two possibilities:
 1. LR catalog (this would probably include the previews? I am not aware
 how I could have the catalog and previews on different drives, could I?)
 
 2. The current photo collection.
 
 If it is #2, the procedure would have to be as follows:
 a) From within LR move the imported collection to RAMDisk.
 b) Work on it.
 c) Move it back.
 (This way I don't need to find it.)
 Is there a better way of accomplishing that?
 
 Any other ideas?
 
 Igor
 
 PS. No, 64-bit OS is not an option at the moment.
 I might do that later.
 
 
 
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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread John

How do y'all get the images larger than 800px on the long side?


On 9/4/2013 9:19 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually stunning
and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a different take
on the theme.

As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos
permitted...

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
that the image is displayed correctly on line.
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Re: OT: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread John

Technically no. They are not iconic because they are not icons; not in
the original sense, nor in any of the modern senses.

They are mostly strong, unforgettable images that capture a defining
moment in time, but iconic is the wrong word for them.

On 9/4/2013 11:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/the-flag-iconic-images/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17518583

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great shot, Ken.

Paul
On Sep 4, 2013, at 3:58 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Thanks Alan, but the only way I shoot the 600 is on a Kirk 'King Cobra' 
 gimbal head atop a sturdy Gitzo tripod, its a great way to negate the weight 
 of the 600 (around 15 lbs.)
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Alan C c...@lantic.net
 Subject: Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up
 
 
 A very interesting gallery with the usual degree of licence. Ken's Heading 
 South (1/15sec @ 600mm) is amazing - with a hand as steady as that, he 
 should consider being a sniper. Darren's Impossible Ride makes my head 
 spin just looking at it. I regained my balance looking at Brian's Full Moon 
 Rising.
 
 Alan
 
 -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
 Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 3:19 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up
 
 G'day all
 
 Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.
 
 Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually
 stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a
 different take on the theme.
 
 As usual, you'll find the gallery here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/
 
 (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there).
 
 Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
 infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
 gallery, let me know.
 
 +
 
 Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos
 permitted...
 
 Submit here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
 Submission Guidelines here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
 
 The main requirements are:
 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
 * Max file size: 300k
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Re: OT: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread John

On 9/4/2013 12:06 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Sep 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:


My definition of iconic is identical to that of the U.S. Supreme
Court's definition of pornography: I know it when I see it.

As for that list, I found most of the color images to NOT be iconic.
And I think there was AT LEAST one huge omission: Where was the photo
of the lone guy standing in front of the tank in Tienanman Square?
Surely that one is Top 25.


The Tienanman Square pic is in the mix. I think it's 23 or 24. I didn't see a 
big split between color and BW in terms of what might be considered iconic, 
other than that some of the color pics are newer and can't really be said to 
have passed the test of time. (Clinton hugging Lewinsky, for example). But any 
such list is going to be highly subjective, and it was entertaining to see one 
editor's take on it.



The way it's set up you only see the first 20 unless you either start 
them as a slideshow or recognize the little  symbol (icon?) in the 
lower right corner will take you to the remainder of the images rather 
than taking you to the next story.




Paul


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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/the-flag-iconic-images/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Walter Hamler
Wow!! I am really feeling old now!! I can remember when she was born
and that was only a few weeks ago!

Walt

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Wonderful Paul.  First day of 4th grade?
They grow so fast...
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread kwaller

A memorable capture Paul. She's moving oput of babyhood.

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread kwaller
Thanks Alan, but the only way I shoot the 600 is on a Kirk 'King Cobra' 
gimbal head atop a sturdy Gitzo tripod, its a great way to negate the weight 
of the 600 (around 15 lbs.)


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Subject: Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up


A very interesting gallery with the usual degree of licence. Ken's Heading 
South (1/15sec @ 600mm) is amazing - with a hand as steady as that, he 
should consider being a sniper. Darren's Impossible Ride makes my head 
spin just looking at it. I regained my balance looking at Brian's Full 
Moon Rising.


Alan

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G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a
different take on the theme.

As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos
permitted...

Submit here:

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/9/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17518583

Heartbraker!

I remember 4th grade.

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread John

On 9/4/2013 2:35 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


I have a question for John Sessoms:
John, you wrote for your photo:
This is not an HDR image. It is a blend of 4 exposures 2 sec to 45 sec
using layer masks  blend modes.
How is it different from HDR?


I would say that the difference is that in HDR imaging (as the term
is generally used) at some point (prior to tone-mapping) you produce a
scene-referred high-dynamic-range image. This requires understanding
or measuring the quantitative exposure relationship between the input
LDR images, allowing the software to know (for example) that a bright
point in the HDR image is 1,000,000 times brighter in the original
scene than a darker point.

What John did is more akin to exposure fusion, as performed by the
Enfuse software for example (although it sounds like John blended
images manually). In exposure fusion, the pixels in the output image
are a weighted average of the pixels in the input image (with weights
varying from pixel to pixel), but exposure fusion algorithms don't
need to know the quantitative relationships between the exposures...
they can just prefer to weight pixels that are well exposed (i.e.
near the middle of the LDR exposure range).



What I was trying to do was something I could do years ago with
Cibachrome, where I could combine two or more slides by making masks.
The mask would only allow light from the part of the slide image I
wanted in the final print to reach the paper, blocking the rest.

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 4, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wonderful Paul.  First day of 4th grade?

Thanks Bob. Yes, first day was yesterday.

Paul
 They grow so fast...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread John

On 9/4/2013 2:22 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



I have a question for John Sessoms:
John, you wrote for your photo:
This is not an HDR image. It is a blend of 4 exposures 2 sec to 45 sec
using layer masks  blend modes.
How is it different from HDR?
As I understand this description, you used 4 different length exposures
and combined them in one images. Just because you were not using a
program/module that is called HDR, but rather implemented the same
functionality manually, it doesn't change the essence of the process.



It's not HDR because I didn't use HDR  it's not tone-mapped. There's
nothing wrong with HDR per se, I just didn't use it.

Mainly, I didn't use HDR because I couldn't get it to do what I wanted
it to do in this image, i.e. not look like it was HDR.

It does still look kind of HDRish, and to the extent it does, I'm not happy
with it.


IMHO, there is nothing wrong with the HDR process itself. What sometimes
is wrong (or rather not even wrong, but just not tasteful, which is
by itself subjective) is how some people use it.

I see that some people run away from labels that developed some stigma,
just because of the labels, not because of what is behind them.
Unless I misunderstood you, it is a similar situation here.

Classic example is that MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) which is
based on NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) does not have the word
nuclear in the name, so that people are not afraid to do it.
[BTW, it has nothing to do with the context of nuclear reactions,
which people are so scared about. Unlike in nuclear reactions,
nuclei used in NMR are stable and do not change.]


Igor




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G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a
different take on the theme.

As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread kwaller

Thanks for commenting Darren.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up



I also thought that Thrainn Vigfusson's Strips of Green LEDs was a
visual stunner, if unimaginatively named. :)
I also especially liked Ken's Heading South and Jan's Midnight at the 
Pool.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
A very interesting gallery with the usual degree of licence. Ken's 
Heading

South (1/15sec @ 600mm) is amazing - with a hand as steady as that, he
should consider being a sniper. Darren's Impossible Ride makes my head
spin just looking at it. I regained my balance looking at Brian's Full 
Moon

Rising.

Alan

-Original Message- From: Brian Walters
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 3:19 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up


G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a
different take on the theme.

As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant photos
permitted...

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to
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Re: PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread Bob W
Lovely shot

On 4 Sep 2013, at 17:51, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of mine a 
 little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
 K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8
 
 The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes before I 
 hassled it away with my camera.
 
 Comments welcomed and encouraged.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Igor Roshchin wrote:

I have a question for John Sessoms:
John, you wrote for your photo:
This is not an HDR image. It is a blend of 4 exposures 2 sec to 45 sec
using layer masks  blend modes.
How is it different from HDR? 

HDR combines images into 32-bit-per-color space and then tone maps the
32-bit image into a viewable 16 or 8-bit image.
 
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Re: New company: Kodak Alaris

2013-09-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:

i'm sure lots of people remember Claris -- it became Filemaker Inc.;
i've been 
using FileMaker pretty much continuously since the first Claris version

Claris Emailer was my favourite. When it disappeared I moved to
Powermail which looks and feels like Emailer - not looked back.

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Re: New company: Kodak Alaris

2013-09-04 Thread steve harley

on 2013-09-04 16:17 Steve Cottrell wrote

Claris Emailer was my favourite.


i heard great things about Claris Emailer; it used a true database to file the 
messages




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SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread John

Roadrunner is again getting bounced by the PDML servers because SpamCop
has blacklisted them. I've been in touch with Ann Sanfedele  she can't
get through to the list.

Ann is still receiving incoming PDML messages, she just can't reply or
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I *think* I can get through from Yahoo, but since I won't be able to see
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SpamCop are being assholes because they can.

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Jack Davis
Pretty cute!
 
Jack


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Re: New company: Kodak Alaris

2013-09-04 Thread steve harley

on 2013-09-03 16:06 Darren Addy wrote

Only one letter off from Claris. Anybody remember Claris? :)


i'm sure lots of people remember Claris — it became Filemaker Inc.; i've been 
using FileMaker pretty much continuously since the first Claris version


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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Bruce Walker
A very high wattage smile, Paul. She's lovin' it! :-)

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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote:

Roadrunner is again getting bounced by the PDML servers because SpamCop
has blacklisted them. I've been in touch with Ann Sanfedele  she can't
get through to the list.

Ann is still receiving incoming PDML messages, she just can't reply or
post at this time.

I *think* I can get through from Yahoo, but since I won't be able to see
this message in my inbox, I'd appreciate it if at least someone would
reply just to let me know you're aware of the situation.

SpamCop are being assholes because they can.

Quite frankly John, Yahoo are being assholes because they can. I've
long ago banned yahoo.com from my mail because of their spam policies.
 
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Kodak emerged from bankruptcy yesterday

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Rally. They did.
That it barely made a blip on the national news says a lot.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-03/kodak-exits-bankruptcy-as-printer-without-photographs.html

 
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Re: Kodak emerged from bankruptcy yesterday

2013-09-04 Thread Postmaster
More:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-09-04/a-tiny-boring-kodak-takes-consumers-out-of-the-picture

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/09/04/kodaks-back-but-as-what.aspx


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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've given up on using free email. Waste of time. 

I've been using email services that are part of my Apple services for a long 
time. A little expensive but it's been rock solid reliable. 

But otherwise, I'd go to hover.com and register a domain ($15/yr) then add 
email service to it (classic service is plenty for most folks, $20/year). Cheap 
enough for anyone, and hover is a breeze to work with. 

Godfrey

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 SpamCop are being assholes because they can.
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The fun it keeps on happening

2013-09-04 Thread Larry Colen
I had been discussing the various options for upgrading the computer
I use for processing photos, with the hopes that I'd have time and money
to do something about it sometime in the next month or two.

The psychic abilities of computers are often amazing.
Monday evening, it crashed hard enough that I had to power cycle it.
Yesterday morning, it did it again. Yesterday evening it did so twice.

It's a weird crash because the cursor is still active, but less and less
functionality is available.  It'll answer pings, but I can't ssh in.  
Unfortunately, mac doesn't have the equivalent to the linux 
ctrl-alt-F#, where you can switch to various virtual terminals 
and log in with a shell prompt.

It may be a software issue, but I don't have time to wrestle with
it. It looks like a new computer is in my near future.

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Re: Kodak emerged from bankruptcy yesterday

2013-09-04 Thread Bruce Walker
This could be the first recording of the emergence of the Phailnix, an
unprepossessing bird mostly made of ashes that arises from the ashes
of its predecessor.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Postmaster postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 More:

 http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-09-04/a-tiny-boring-kodak-takes-consumers-out-of-the-picture

 http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/09/04/kodaks-back-but-as-what.aspx


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Re: The fun it keeps on happening

2013-09-04 Thread steve harley

on 2013-09-04 17:48 Larry Colen wrote

It's a weird crash because the cursor is still active, but less and less
functionality is available.  It'll answer pings, but I can't ssh in.


first thing i'd do is check the logs; not sure what less and less 
functionality you mean, but it sounds like more of an OS issue than a hardware 
issue; not that it should stop you from getting a new machine ;?


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Re: The fun it keeps on happening

2013-09-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 06:10:32PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
 on 2013-09-04 17:48 Larry Colen wrote
 It's a weird crash because the cursor is still active, but less and less
 functionality is available.  It'll answer pings, but I can't ssh in.
 
 first thing i'd do is check the logs; not sure what less and less
 functionality you mean, but it sounds like more of an OS issue than
 a hardware issue; not that it should stop you from getting a new
 machine ;?

I'd be trying to do something in chrome, then I would just get a spinnyball.
But the cursor would still work, and I'd be able to click on another 
window, but then, I'd no longer be able to click on another window,
or do anything in that window, and I'd try to run a program in the dock,
and it would freeze up in the middle of popping the little pictures up,
and eventually the only thing that the computer would do is move the 
cursor around the screen.  



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Re: The fun it keeps on happening

2013-09-04 Thread Bruce Walker
There's a very similar hang that happens to my two iMacs once in a
while that involves the GPU crashing. That causes the screen to become
unresponsive while the rest of the OS is still running. I can
generally ssh in, check the logs and reboot it cleanly, but if enough
other stuff hangs on the video driver then even ssh or disk accesses
will freeze.

Judging by reports I've read it seems to be a design fault wrt the
video interface and has never been fixed. It occurs on my wife's iMac
more often than mine and fortunately it's pretty rare.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:10 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2013-09-04 17:48 Larry Colen wrote

 It's a weird crash because the cursor is still active, but less and less
 functionality is available.  It'll answer pings, but I can't ssh in.


 first thing i'd do is check the logs; not sure what less and less
 functionality you mean, but it sounds like more of an OS issue than a
 hardware issue; not that it should stop you from getting a new machine ;?


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Re: The fun it keeps on happening

2013-09-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Have you inspected /var/log/system.log afterward? I'd look
particularly for disk errors.

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 06:10:32PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
 on 2013-09-04 17:48 Larry Colen wrote
 It's a weird crash because the cursor is still active, but less and less
 functionality is available.  It'll answer pings, but I can't ssh in.

 first thing i'd do is check the logs; not sure what less and less
 functionality you mean, but it sounds like more of an OS issue than
 a hardware issue; not that it should stop you from getting a new
 machine ;?

 I'd be trying to do something in chrome, then I would just get a spinnyball.
 But the cursor would still work, and I'd be able to click on another
 window, but then, I'd no longer be able to click on another window,
 or do anything in that window, and I'd try to run a program in the dock,
 and it would freeze up in the middle of popping the little pictures up,
 and eventually the only thing that the computer would do is move the
 cursor around the screen.



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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Time Does Fly. Nice smile. :-)

G

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Re: New company: Kodak Alaris

2013-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't recall ever using Emailer, but I might have. The UI looks familiar when 
I looked it up. Fog City Software wrote it, Claris acquired it.

I've used Apple Mail since OS X shipped. It does everything I need pretty well. 

G


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 Claris Emailer was my favourite. When it disappeared I moved to
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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 05:38:34PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Does that make her a purrrfect ten  ... year old?

 Time Does Fly. Nice smile. :-)
 
 G
 
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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I've given up on using free email. Waste of time. 

I've been using email services that are part of my Apple services for a long 
time. 
A little expensive but it's been rock solid reliable. 

But otherwise, I'd go to hover.com and register a domain ($15/yr) then add 
email 
service to it (classic service is plenty for most folks, $20/year). Cheap 
enough 
for anyone, and hover is a breeze to work with. 

Martin Sheen voice 

Absolutely goddam right 

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Re: The fun it keeps on happening

2013-09-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:37:26PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Have you inspected /var/log/system.log afterward? I'd look
 particularly for disk errors.

Nope. 

There was too little time between it crashing the second time last night
and when my alarm was going to go off this morning.  

I'll try powering it up, and checking the log when I get a chance.


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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bruce. i shot about a dozen pics of Grace yesterday morning, and I was 
surprised to discover that about half of them were objectionably soft and many 
were at least a little soft. Checked my DA* 16-50/2.8 against a brick wall this 
afternoon at f2.8 and discovered that the focus field is off kilter. When the 
right side of frame is in focus, the left side is seriously out of focus. 
That's the same problem that plagued early samples of this lens. I had sent my 
first one back immediately after I purchased it, and BH replaced it with this 
one. I checked it when it was new, and it was right on. I'm quite sure it 
continued to be right on over the last few years. But two weeks ago, when 
shooting the dream cruise, I took a nasty spill. I held the camera and mounted 
DA* 60-250 aloft, and they seemed to have come through unscathed. But the 16-50 
was in a lens bag hanging from a strap on my shoulder. It looked fine but may 
have taken a pretty nard hit. In any case, it's off to CRIS for re
 pair. I count it as an unavoidable maintenance expense, but I hate to be 
without it. I'll have to get by with the DA 12-24 and FA 35/2. Could be worse I 
guess.

Paul
On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 A very high wattage smile, Paul. She's lovin' it! :-)
 
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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 05:38:34PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 Does that make her a purrrfect ten  ... year old?

She's a perfect nine. 
 
 Time Does Fly. Nice smile. :-)
 
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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My gosh, she has grown up so quickly.   What a fine young lady she is.

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Re: PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
When we were at the Key West Butterfly Conservatory, one of the
butterflies took a  liking to my wife's flowery shirt:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4182676
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of mine a
 little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
 K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8

 The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes before I
 hassled it away with my camera.

 Comments welcomed and encouraged.

 Thanks!

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Christine Nielsen
Sweet image... 
Bittersweet season, this back to school time, isn't it?

:)
-c


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Re: PESO: Hideout

2013-09-04 Thread Mark C

Fabulous shot, Walt - that is really stunning!

Mark

On 9/3/2013 1:09 PM, Walt wrote:
Spotted this little guy hanging out in the crook of one of the 
hummingbird feeder stands a little while ago. At first, I thought it 
was just a piece of gum someone had stuffed in there, but decided to 
take a closer look and was delighted to discover that I was wrong.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9663303049/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/800 sec, f/2.8

Comments are, as always, gladly accepted.

Thanks!

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Re: PESO: Mushroom on Wood

2013-09-04 Thread Mark C

Not what I expected - excellent shot.

Mark

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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread Mark C
Fine image, Paul - the stuff of memories. And she has fine taste in 
T-Shirts as well!


Mark

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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread John

RoadRunner ain't free, and I'm paying for the Yahoo account.

I already have domains registered. Can I still get email service from 
hover.com if my domains are registered through someone else?




On 9/4/2013 7:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I've given up on using free email. Waste of time.

I've been using email services that are part of my Apple services for a long 
time. A little expensive but it's been rock solid reliable.

But otherwise, I'd go to hover.com and register a domain ($15/yr) then add 
email service to it (classic service is plenty for most folks, $20/year). Cheap 
enough for anyone, and hover is a breeze to work with.

Godfrey

On Sep 4, 2013, at 3:41 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


Roadrunner is again getting bounced by the PDML servers because SpamCop
has blacklisted them. I've been in touch with Ann Sanfedele  she can't
get through to the list.

Ann is still receiving incoming PDML messages, she just can't reply or
post at this time.

I *think* I can get through from Yahoo, but since I won't be able to see
this message in my inbox, I'd appreciate it if at least someone would
reply just to let me know you're aware of the situation.

SpamCop are being assholes because they can.
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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote:

RoadRunner ain't free, and I'm paying for the Yahoo account.

I already have domains registered. Can I still get email service from 
hover.com if my domains are registered through someone else?

Email will be through whoever is *hosting* the domains. Registration
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Re: September PUG - 'Long Exposure' - is up

2013-09-04 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

No reflection on you Brian, you're work is highly appreciated, but  
perhaps you should re-institute the open gallery portion of the PUG.  
 I didn't really have a long exposure image I thought was worthy, so  
I didn't submit anything, but that doesn't seem to have stopped  
everyone.  This one


http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/JK-pentaxlongexpo.html

violates the basic requirement of this month's theme.  It's a pretty  
picture but it ain't no long exposure,



Yeah.  Of course it's not my role to decline to accept images unless  
they violate the rules. Whether an image conforms to the theme is a  
matter for the photographer but, if I had taken more notice of the  
Exif, I probably would have questioned this particular one.


As for the monthly Open Gallery, the problem is that it wasn't being  
supported.  Over the past couple of years, the number of Open Gallery  
submissions rarely exceeded two, and more often it was one or none.  I  
think most people just prefer to submit non-themed images as PESOs.


Including the monthly Open Gallery complicates the gallery generation  
process - not insurmountably, but enough to be tedious for so few  
submissions.  However, I'm intending to include an Open Gallery as one  
of the themes for 2014.




Cheers

Brian

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nor is it even a cleaver such as this

http://pug.komkon.org/13sep/slides/RW-NewHampshire-8-13-27.html

a photograph of the results of long exposure, damn, I wish I'd  
thought of that.


It's a nice gallery though. I'm impressed by all of the images, even  
the one that doesn't really belong.


On 9/4/2013 9:19 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another enjoyable gallery with some outstanding work.

Thrainn's 'Strips of green LEDS' is probably the most visually  
stunning and innovative while Rick's 'On Main Street' provides a  
different take on the theme.


As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous  
Gallery there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's  
not infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it  
in the gallery, let me know.


+

Coming up for October is 'Animal Kingdom' - cat and cormorant  
photos permitted...


Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera  
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* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread John

On 9/4/2013 7:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


Roadrunner is again getting bounced by the PDML servers because
SpamCop has blacklisted them. I've been in touch with Ann Sanfedele
 she can't get through to the list.

Ann is still receiving incoming PDML messages, she just can't reply
or post at this time.

I *think* I can get through from Yahoo, but since I won't be able
to see this message in my inbox, I'd appreciate it if at least
someone would reply just to let me know you're aware of the
situation.

SpamCop are being assholes because they can.


Quite frankly John, Yahoo are being assholes because they can. I've
long ago banned yahoo.com from my mail because of their spam
policies.




I don't know how Yahoo can be at fault for SpamCop blacklisting
all of RoadRunner, but I'll take your word for it.

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Re: PESO -- Sunset Cruise

2013-09-04 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com:


On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote:



On 4 Sep 2013, at 08:01, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


On 3 Sep 2013, at 23:55, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:



We bow to your superior knowledge. A punt thread is definitely  
something

we canoe without.


Bollards.


Did you mean rowlocks?


Shove it up your porthole.

Anchor!


The schooner this thread ends, the better.

. Ywwlll 


Yeah, this thread has outlived it's porpoise and should be clippered.



It's certainly started to flounder.


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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread John

On 9/4/2013 10:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


RoadRunner ain't free, and I'm paying for the Yahoo account.

I already have domains registered. Can I still get email service from
hover.com if my domains are registered through someone else?


Email will be through whoever is *hosting* the domains. Registration
has nothing to do with it (unless you're getting hosting from the
registrar).




Ok. Right now, no one is hosting them.

I registered the domains while I was in school just before I got sick.
I've kept the registrations up, but I haven't felt like building a
website since I don't feel able to work.

I kept the domains in case I ever do get back to working.

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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:42 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On 9/4/2013 10:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 John wrote:
 
 RoadRunner ain't free, and I'm paying for the Yahoo account.
 
 I already have domains registered. Can I still get email service from
 hover.com if my domains are registered through someone else?
 
 Email will be through whoever is *hosting* the domains. Registration
 has nothing to do with it (unless you're getting hosting from the
 registrar).
 
 
 
 Ok. Right now, no one is hosting them.
 
 I registered the domains while I was in school just before I got sick.
 I've kept the registrations up, but I haven't felt like building a
 website since I don't feel able to work.
 
 I kept the domains in case I ever do get back to working.

You can transfer the domains registrations to Hover.com, then set up the email 
service. I moved six domains to them over the past two years, they're great to 
deal with. They're parked right now, I just pay the annual fee to keep them 
current and mine. But I have plans for them. ;-)

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Re: SpamCopped Again.

2013-09-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

They're parked right now, I just pay the annual fee to keep them current and 
mine. But I have plans for them. ;-)

You forgot the Bwahahahahaha!
 
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Kodak film?

2013-09-04 Thread John

In Kodak's emergence from bankruptcy and the new Kodak Alaris supporting
Kodak labs with chemistry  paper, what happens to Kodak film?

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Re: PESO: Mushroom on Wood

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Mark!
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Not what I expected - excellent shot.

 Mark


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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17516903
 Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Mushroom on Wood

2013-09-04 Thread knarf
I concur with Mark: not what I expected at all.

Lovely photo of a most interesting plant!

Cheers,
frank

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Thanks, Mark!
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Not what I expected - excellent shot.

 Mark


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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17516903
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Re: PESO fourth grader

2013-09-04 Thread knarf
She's become quite the beautiful young lady. What a smile!

Beautiful photo, Paul.

Cheers,
frank


Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
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Re: PESO: Hideout

2013-09-04 Thread knarf
Cool! 

Well seen and photographed little critter. Beautiful colours.

Cheers,
frank

Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
Spotted this little guy hanging out in the crook of one of the 
hummingbird feeder stands a little while ago. At first, I thought it
was 
just a piece of gum someone had stuffed in there, but decided to take a

closer look and was delighted to discover that I was wrong.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9663303049/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/800 sec, f/2.8

Comments are, as always, gladly accepted.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread knarf
Cool!

Cheers, 
frank

Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of
mine 
a little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8

The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes 
before I hassled it away with my camera.

Comments welcomed and encouraged.

Thanks!

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RE: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread John Coyle
I would not include about half of the shots.  No offence intended, but while 
many of these are
emotionally charged for American citizens, they are not iconic for most of the 
rest of the world,
unlike, for example, the dying boy being stalked by a vulture at #24.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

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Re: PESO - Football in the Front Yard

2013-09-04 Thread knarf
Nice to see kids can still have fun playing out doors. That seems to be missing 
these days.

I love this photo. So much joy! 

Cheers,
frank

George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
There are over a dozen years between the two photos in this post.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/9/2/fall-football

The first is a shot of my two oldest grandkids playing football in the
front yard.  I shot it with my old Spotmatic (Honeywell, by the way)
with the screwmount 50mm, f/1.4 lens on Kodacolor.  The negative was
scanned and not much was done to it in Lightroom.

The second photo is a group portrait from a few days ago.  The
technology was a little different.  Digital camera, multiple remote
flashes, softbox, and more stuff I didn't have when the first photo
was taken.

The technology changed a lot but the most important thing to me is how
the kids have changed.  The little one, of course, wasn't even born
when the first photo was taken and the two older kids are well into
their teens.

As much as we talk about tech, and brand names and details, in the end
I think photos like these are why photography is important to most
people.

gs

George Sinos

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Re: PESO - Something about this rock...

2013-09-04 Thread knarf
Love this! You really captured the height here. Very unique perspective works 
here. Great summertime colours, too.

Cheers,
frank

Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
...on the top of a lakeside mountain keeps drawing my attention.  I
last gave it a photo-massage about 3 years ago.  This year I tried a
different angle:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17516588

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17516588-lg.jpg

(K-5, FA 28/2.8)

My last photographic assault on this summit was this:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14040873

Comments appreciated!


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Re: PESO -- Sunset Cruise

2013-09-04 Thread kwaller


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org

Subject: Re: PESO -- Sunset Cruise



Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com:


On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote:



On 4 Sep 2013, at 08:01, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


On 3 Sep 2013, at 23:55, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:



We bow to your superior knowledge. A punt thread is definitely  
something

we canoe without.


Bollards.


Did you mean rowlocks?


Shove it up your porthole.

Anchor!


The schooner this thread ends, the better.

. Ywwlll 


Yeah, this thread has outlived it's porpoise and should be clippered.



It's certainly started to flounder.



I thought it was just a fluke.



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Re: PESO - Football in the Front Yard

2013-09-04 Thread John
My next door neighbor has two boys, one about 9-10  the other 5-6. 
There's a third kid lives up the block somewhere. I guess he's near in 
age to the older boy. From the amount of noise they make outside my 
window, I guess they're still able to have fun playing outdoors.


Haven't heard 'em much the last week or so, so I guess school has 
started back.


On 9/4/2013 11:16 PM, knarf wrote:

Nice to see kids can still have fun playing out doors. That seems to be missing 
these days.

I love this photo. So much joy!

Cheers,
frank

George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

There are over a dozen years between the two photos in this post.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/9/2/fall-football

The first is a shot of my two oldest grandkids playing football in the
front yard.  I shot it with my old Spotmatic (Honeywell, by the way)
with the screwmount 50mm, f/1.4 lens on Kodacolor.  The negative was
scanned and not much was done to it in Lightroom.

The second photo is a group portrait from a few days ago.  The
technology was a little different.  Digital camera, multiple remote
flashes, softbox, and more stuff I didn't have when the first photo
was taken.

The technology changed a lot but the most important thing to me is how
the kids have changed.  The little one, of course, wasn't even born
when the first photo was taken and the two older kids are well into
their teens.

As much as we talk about tech, and brand names and details, in the end
I think photos like these are why photography is important to most
people.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


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RE: Are these images iconic?

2013-09-04 Thread knarf
Have to agree with you on several points, John.

It is a very America-centric list, but I guess that is not surprising given the 
source. I'll forgive them that.

Many of the photos are truly iconic, but a surprising number fall flat in that 
regard. They may have been newsworthy but hardly iconic and certainly not even 
interesting.

The ones I would count as iconic are photos that are great without knowing the 
context. One needn't know anything about the circumstances surrounding Lange's 
Migrant Mother, Karsh's Churchill, Capa's Death of a Loyalist Soldier or Ut's 
photo of Kim Phuc to feel how it resonates and conveys great emotion.

Knowing the circumstances only enhances our appreciation. Knowing they may have 
changed history elevates them even more.

But to be iconic one must at least start with a great photo. Too many of these 
photos don't even get out of the starting gate.

Cheers, 
frank

John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
I would not include about half of the shots.  No offence intended, but
while many of these are
emotionally charged for American citizens, they are not iconic for most
of the rest of the world,
unlike, for example, the dying boy being stalked by a vulture at #24.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

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Re: PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread Walt Gilbert

I think I saw one of those in a Godzilla movie once.

Seriously, though, that's a cool shot. I've never seen one quite that 
size before.


-- Walt

On 9/4/2013 8:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

When we were at the Key West Butterfly Conservatory, one of the
butterflies took a  liking to my wife's flowery shirt:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4182676
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of mine a
little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8

The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes before I
hassled it away with my camera.

Comments welcomed and encouraged.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Cooperative Butterfly

2013-09-04 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thanks, Frank!

-- Walt


On 9/4/2013 10:14 PM, knarf wrote:

Cool!

Cheers,
frank

Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

While I was at a Labor Day picnic held annually by a good friend of
mine
a little visitor dropped by to hang out with us.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9671172989/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/1250 sec., f/2.8

The thing must have sat on the lady's hand for a good five minutes
before I hassled it away with my camera.

Comments welcomed and encouraged.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Hideout

2013-09-04 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thank you, Mark!

I really wish I'd taken more than just a few shots.

-- Walt

On 9/4/2013 8:52 PM, Mark C wrote:

Fabulous shot, Walt - that is really stunning!

Mark

On 9/3/2013 1:09 PM, Walt wrote:
Spotted this little guy hanging out in the crook of one of the 
hummingbird feeder stands a little while ago. At first, I thought it 
was just a piece of gum someone had stuffed in there, but decided to 
take a closer look and was delighted to discover that I was wrong.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9663303049/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/800 sec, f/2.8

Comments are, as always, gladly accepted.

Thanks!

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Re: PESO -- Sunset Cruise

2013-09-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com:
 
 On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote:
 
 
 On 4 Sep 2013, at 08:01, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 On 3 Sep 2013, at 23:55, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 
 We bow to your superior knowledge. A punt thread is definitely 
 something
 we canoe without.
 
 Bollards.
 
 Did you mean rowlocks?
 
 Shove it up your porthole.
 Anchor!
 
 The schooner this thread ends, the better.
 
 . Ywwlll 
 
 Yeah, this thread has outlived it's porpoise and should be clippered.
 
 
 It's certainly started to flounder.

Oh, come on. We should cuttlefish the crab.

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Re: PESO: Hideout

2013-09-04 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thank you, Frank.

It was a pleasant surprise, to say the least.

-- Walt

On 9/4/2013 10:13 PM, knarf wrote:

Cool!

Well seen and photographed little critter. Beautiful colours.

Cheers,
frank

Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Spotted this little guy hanging out in the crook of one of the
hummingbird feeder stands a little while ago. At first, I thought it
was
just a piece of gum someone had stuffed in there, but decided to take a

closer look and was delighted to discover that I was wrong.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9663303049/#large
K-5, F 50/1.7, ISO 400, 1/800 sec, f/2.8

Comments are, as always, gladly accepted.

Thanks!

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