How to achieve this lighting?
I ran across this very nice set of photos: http://9gag.com/gag/azb103j (Don't read the comments though, unless you enjoy examples of how stupid people can be) The photographers website is: http://www.beforethey.com/ I really like the lighting effect in a lot of th eportraits. It shows a lot of depth and contrast, but isn't harsh. How does one achieve that effect? Is it a large soft box close to center with much softer diffuse fill from the sides? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to achieve this lighting?
It's likely north light (or south light south of the equator) from good sized windows (at least the ones indoors). Look in the eyes, unless they've been retouched, they'll tell you everything. Then look at the shadows, then the reflections on the skin. They all point to large, diffuse light sources. Traveling around for 3 years, he likely didn't have a softbox on him, but used the excellent light available to him. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I ran across this very nice set of photos: http://9gag.com/gag/azb103j (Don't read the comments though, unless you enjoy examples of how stupid people can be) The photographers website is: http://www.beforethey.com/ I really like the lighting effect in a lot of th eportraits. It shows a lot of depth and contrast, but isn't harsh. How does one achieve that effect? Is it a large soft box close to center with much softer diffuse fill from the sides? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red Flash
Nice shot of a classic British car, Dan. It's the XK120 drophead coupé version. Here's an auction from a few years ago http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16133/lot/368/ Chris On 29 October 2013 14:09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2013/10/29/red-flash Comments are invited. Can anyone identify the make, model and year? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train
From what I recall of my childhood AmFly set, the difference then was scale, mine smaller than Lionel (and less expensive). I had the Burlington Zephyr aluminum streamliner (in the 50s) because I had ridden a version of it from Phoenix to LA in 1952 when I was ten. Lionel had 3 rail track, my AmFly had only two (why have more, I dunno). When I left for college in 1960 as soon as I got on the plane my mother sold my Slingerland Drum set, and my train set. Bummer. On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:34 , Alan C wrote: Yes, you're right. Lionel track was O gauge but all the early Lionel rolling stock, including locos, were under-scale, closer to S than O. I was confusing gauge scale. I still have quite a bit of it and everything is small compared to my stock of European origin. More recent Lionel trains are both O gauge O scale 1:48. I have a Texas Special A-B Diesel loco which is full O scale. European O is a little bigger 1:43.5. BTW, according to what I read on the Web, American Flyer never made S gauge stuff. The plot thickens! I might just be tempted to dust everything off, put down a few meters of track take some side-by-side snaps. Alan Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Initial experiences with K-5
On Oct 29, 2013, at 13:56 , Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Just sold mine on FleaBay for the disappointing price of $58 plus shipping. It's in California now. Where were you to bid it up? !! :) Ah! I didn’t check eBay till *after* it showed up on my want list at KEH as “out of stock.” I coulda gone a lot higher than that. Since I’m considering this lens, why did you sell it? More specifically, were you unhappy with it? Not unhappy, just needed the money, so I'm getting rid of lenses that have not been used in several years. I tend to always mount a DA* lens to fit my shoot. Like the DA* 60-250. I seems to get a higher percentage of good shots with those, and the 17-70 SDM. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train
A lot of early electric model train manufacturers went for three rail so that the wheels did not have to be insulated, the outer rails being common the centre one completing the circuit. Lionel was AC, others DC. I converted all my Lionel to 2 rail DC using rectifier bridges on the motors insulating the wheels so it could run on the same track as the rest. Nowadays, battery powered radio control is becoming the in-thing so even plastic track could be used! Alan -Original Message- From: Joseph McAllister Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train From what I recall of my childhood AmFly set, the difference then was scale, mine smaller than Lionel (and less expensive). I had the Burlington Zephyr aluminum streamliner (in the 50s) because I had ridden a version of it from Phoenix to LA in 1952 when I was ten. Lionel had 3 rail track, my AmFly had only two (why have more, I dunno). When I left for college in 1960 as soon as I got on the plane my mother sold my Slingerland Drum set, and my train set. Bummer. On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:34 , Alan C wrote: Yes, you're right. Lionel track was O gauge but all the early Lionel rolling stock, including locos, were under-scale, closer to S than O. I was confusing gauge scale. I still have quite a bit of it and everything is small compared to my stock of European origin. More recent Lionel trains are both O gauge O scale 1:48. I have a Texas Special A-B Diesel loco which is full O scale. European O is a little bigger 1:43.5. BTW, according to what I read on the Web, American Flyer never made S gauge stuff. The plot thickens! I might just be tempted to dust everything off, put down a few meters of track take some side-by-side snaps. Alan Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to achieve this lighting?
They are very nice shots. I don't think he's used anything techy to get that light. Maybe a white sheet as a reflector, but even that's probably not needed. Have a look at the way someone like Jane Bown, or Rembrandt or Leonardo use light. I thought I'd buy the book until I saw the size of it! I hate people making these stupid, unusable XXL books. Then I saw the price, and that confirmed it. B On 30 Oct 2013, at 06:03, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I ran across this very nice set of photos: http://9gag.com/gag/azb103j (Don't read the comments though, unless you enjoy examples of how stupid people can be) The photographers website is: http://www.beforethey.com/ I really like the lighting effect in a lot of th eportraits. It shows a lot of depth and contrast, but isn't harsh. How does one achieve that effect? Is it a large soft box close to center with much softer diffuse fill from the sides? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Corsets and behinds (the scenes, that is)
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote: For the legions of modelling shoot fans here on PDML, here's my complete set of curvy (and proud of it) brand-new alt-model Alina and her fashion and fetish corsets ... http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/sets/72157636913319195/ *** Bonus extra features: behind the scenes with makeup artist Yurie, who I installed in the hallway of the Junction Chiropractic where we were shooting in the exercise room, after hours. She needs some chiropractic after those poses. No models were harmed in the making of these. Alina is very flexible as she's also a dancer. Among other things she does Contact Improv, burlesque and pole dancing. Yeah, was mostly making a funny about the location; also making a reference to this: http://www.jimchines.com/2012/01/striking-a-pose/ That's very funny! Thanks for that, Aahz. It's often necessary for me to show a model a pose. I have a daily stretching regime I stick to so I'm pretty flexible and avoid the back troubles he ran into. :) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Initial experiences with K-5
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Oct 29, 2013, at 13:56 , Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Since I’m considering this lens, why did you sell it? More specifically, were you unhappy with it? Not unhappy, just needed the money, so I'm getting rid of lenses that have not been used in several years. I tend to always mount a DA* lens to fit my shoot. Like the DA* 60-250. I seems to get a higher percentage of good shots with those, and the 17-70 SDM. Thanks, Joseph. I was disappointed to see that the DA* 60-250 is way out of my price range. [According to KEH’s listing of the lens without the asterisk. Does it indicate different lens from one without it?] Unless I win the lottery. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net A writer is a person for whom writing is more difficult than it is for other people. - Thomas Mann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:50 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: It's funny how every time I take a whole load of photos of something it's always either the first or last one I end up choosing. I have a similar set of another bird to go through so I'll see if I can break that rule. My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of them. That said, one of my favorites from my trip to England last month was a quick one-handed shot as I was crossing a street and throughout, “Hey, that looks interesting. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Evertyhtnig is amazing and nobody's happy. - Louis C.K. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: ...and throughout…. Hope it’s clear I intended “and thought”. You really have to be careful with auto spellcheck. Otherwise it can embarrassing. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Initial experiences with K-5
On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: What about this?: 50-200 F4-5.6 SMC DA ED WR. Excellent choice. Darn! I dithered and it got away from me. Non-WR versions are available even more cheaply. I think I’ll hold out for the WR version. I’m guessing, though, they don’t show up very often. Currently none at KEH or BH or on eBay. Checked these stores today and it showed up at BH with their next to highest used equipment rating at a little less than what KEH was asking and $100 less than new. I didn’t dither this time. Soon I’ll be trying out George’s suggestions. While I’m at it, and indulging a little laziness, what do the DA and ED abbreviations abbreviate? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. - Chief Seattle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Harvest Sunrise
I'm up that early, but the eyes won't focus yet… and I don't have that view close by! Rick On Oct 30, 2013, at 00:56 , David Mann wrote: On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:10 pm, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't seen a really good sunrise for a while. Last Sunday was not bad: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/harvest-sunrise.html?m=1 That's pretty nice. Wish I could get up that early. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-3 hands-on video from Adorama
For those who like to get their facts from TV ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQ2R9eoSCc You get a nice peek at the UI in action, so that's something. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 hands-on video from Adorama
like hummingbirds For those who like to get their facts from TV ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQ2R9eoSCc You get a nice peek at the UI in action, so that's something. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Is Pentax now in vogue?
I didn't even notice the other two characters in this picture: http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/29/back-in-the-fashion-fold-kate-moss-poses-with-john-galliano-on-the-cover-of-vogue-4165793/ Ben ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 hands-on video from Adorama
Nice selection of lenses:) On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: like hummingbirds For those who like to get their facts from TV ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQ2R9eoSCc You get a nice peek at the UI in action, so that's something. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Harvest Sunrise
Lovely shot - and how lucky you are to live near such a beautiful location... Chris On 30 October 2013 01:10, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't seen a really good sunrise for a while. Last Sunday was not bad: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/harvest-sunrise.html?m=1 Why I love living a block from Lake Ontario. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of them. Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'? To get good shots, one must take shots, but the secret isn't taking a lot of them. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Pentax now in vogue?
That'll be the day… On Oct 30, 2013, at 08:00 , Ben Price wrote: I didn't even notice the other two characters in this picture: http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/29/back-in-the-fashion-fold-kate-moss-poses-with-john-galliano-on-the-cover-of-vogue-4165793/ Ben ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
Getting out with a camera and giving yourself opportunities, will increase your chances of getting a good one. Be choosy once you've decided what good is, then learn the basics of composition, exposure and lighting. Good will then, likely, take on a new set of ever evolving conditions. Jack - Original Message - From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:56 AM Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:50 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: It's funny how every time I take a whole load of photos of something it's always either the first or last one I end up choosing. I have a similar set of another bird to go through so I'll see if I can break that rule. My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of them. That said, one of my favorites from my trip to England last month was a quick one-handed shot as I was crossing a street and throughout, “Hey, that looks interesting. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Evertyhtnig is amazing and nobody's happy. - Louis C.K. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red Flash
Thanks, Chris!\ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Nice shot of a classic British car, Dan. It's the XK120 drophead coupé version. Here's an auction from a few years ago http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16133/lot/368/ Chris On 29 October 2013 14:09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2013/10/29/red-flash Comments are invited. Can anyone identify the make, model and year? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan -Original Message- From: Tom C Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of them. Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'? To get good shots, one must take shots, but the secret isn't taking a lot of them. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Pentax now in vogue?
The Pentax 6x7 was the weapon of choice among NY fashion shooters until film went away. A young man I know who worked as a PA for pros in both LA and NY told me he didn't like working in NY studios because almost all the photographers were shooting with Pentax 6x7, and it was the PA's job to reload the multiple bodies that would be used in a shoot. The 6x7 is somewhat difficult to load, and on a fashion shoot, a reload might come every couple of minutes. A bad reload, where the film didn't wind correctly, could be a disaster. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Ben Price ben.wills.pr...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't even notice the other two characters in this picture: http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/29/back-in-the-fashion-fold-kate-moss-poses-with-john-galliano-on-the-cover-of-vogue-4165793/ Ben ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
what a beautiful bird - and nicely presented ann On 10/27/2013 23:30, David Mann wrote: For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth presenting separately :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I brought it on that trip. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
What Ann said. Well done! Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: what a beautiful bird - and nicely presented ann On 10/27/2013 23:30, David Mann wrote: For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth presenting separately :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I brought it on that trip. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Getting out with a camera and giving yourself opportunities, will increase your chances of getting a good one. Be choosy once you've decided what good is, then learn the basics of composition, exposure and lighting. Good will then, likely, take on a new set of ever evolving conditions. Thanks, Jack. That was the intention of what I said. Obviously, simply taking a lot of shots is not sufficient. [If it were possible to *just* take a lot of shots.] But with a desire to learn the chances of learning increase the more shots you take. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “On the basis of evidence we may be sure that we are wrong but we can never be sure that we are right.” - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Tom, In the film days, each shot was $.25 and only pros took lots of shots. Now the cost per shot is almost zero, and the tyros 'spray and pray'. I enjoy taking more shots now, trying to work things out and saving money on film. I hope it's improving my photography. A new K-3 costs less than 150 rolls of Kodachrome (...if only we could process it). Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan -Original Message- From: Tom C Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of them. Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'? To get good shots, one must take shots, but the secret isn't taking a lot of them. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
Plus one. :-) Godfrey -- On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: what a beautiful bird - and nicely presented ann On 10/27/2013 23:30, David Mann wrote: For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth presenting separately :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I brought it on that trip. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
I agree to a certain extent. In some situations, preparing and shooting at the right moment is most critical and taking numerous shots can be a detriment to getting the one you want. In other situations, multiple exposures can be helpful. For example, when shooting the great blue heron a couple of weeks ago I knew that he was likely to take off, so I had preselected the central focus point and made sure I had plenty of shutter speed, then I just waited. When he did take off, I got one shot as he lifted off the water and waited to take a second until he was directly adjacent to me. If I had kept firing after liftoff, I probably wouldn't have gotten a good in-flight shot. On the other hand, when shooting cars for publication, I'll record numerous exposures of the same shot, sometimes turning the polarizer a bit or reframing slightly. Too many choices are just enough. But I rarely bracket, since a good average exposure provides plenty of working room when the RAW is converted. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of them. Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'? To get good shots, one must take shots, but the secret isn't taking a lot of them. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Harvest Sunrise
And this is why we are glad you live a block from Lake Ontario. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:10:46 -0400 From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Harvest Sunrise Message-ID:4927c354-c32a-46b5-8767-386653c62...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Haven't seen a really good sunrise for a while. Last Sunday was not bad: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/harvest-sunrise.html?m=1 Why I love living a block from Lake Ontario. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank ?Analysis kills spontaneity.? -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
That's great, Dave! On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:30 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: For those who didn't look through my gallery I thought this one was worth presenting separately :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso It's not often I get to exercise the 400mm but I'm glad I brought it on that trip. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-3 Samples at various ISOs
6400 looks very good. Ladies and gentleman: We have a winner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 hands-on video from Adorama
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 07:57:19AM -0400, CollinB wrote: like hummingbirds For those who like to get their facts from TV ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQ2R9eoSCc There were some interesting bits there. I couldn't tell if she was unfamiliar with photography, or just some of the big words, like feature, I mean filter. You get a nice peek at the UI in action, so that's something. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs
PS...meant to give a link...SORRY http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/pentax-k3/pentax-k3A7.HTM On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: 6400 looks very good. Ladies and gentleman: We have a winner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Getting 'Good' Shots... was Re: Re: White-Faced Heron
From: Alan C c...@lantic.net Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan Why don't you ask them or read up on the subject? See if they agree with such a simplistic approach to creating good imagery. Tom C. -Original Message- From: Tom C Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net My understanding is that the secret to getting good shots is taking a lot of them. Really? Is that the way you think most people get 'good shots'? To get good shots, one must take shots, but the secret isn't taking a lot of them. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs
Very good news. The noise level is acceptable even at 12,800, and the detail at lower ISOs is outstanding. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: PS...meant to give a link...SORRY http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/pentax-k3/pentax-k3A7.HTM On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: 6400 looks very good. Ladies and gentleman: We have a winner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote: Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine gunning with the hope that one will be passable. I frequently, when working with a subject, will over-shoot, looking for variations on shots already in the bag, or to work past what we have done before. I get a pile of good shots that way, but a smaller pile of special shots. It's true that you must take many photos before you can start getting good ones regularly. I believe HCB said it takes ten thousand. I think I took considerably more than that before I got where I am, and I'm not where I want to be yet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs
Looking at the EXIF, a couple of observations... 1) They used a SIGMA lens? 2) Where in the EXIF is the info regarding the selectable AA filter? It seems to be that any evaluation of K-3 image quality needs to specify if that was OFF, or MODE 1 or MODE 2 (so that we can judge the differences between images made at the different settings). I have no idea which of the above was used in the making of these images. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very good news. The noise level is acceptable even at 12,800, and the detail at lower ISOs is outstanding. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: PS...meant to give a link...SORRY http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/pentax-k3/pentax-k3A7.HTM On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: 6400 looks very good. Ladies and gentleman: We have a winner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I've been tempted
Local shop has a used 16-50/2.8 for $900. First one I've been able to physically get my hands on. So ... the FA28/2.8 and FA35/2 could equal a little over 1/2 of that lens' price. Could do it if I also sol either the 70/2.4 or the F50/1.7 + the 18-55WR. Let's see -- FA28/2.8 @ $250, FA35/2 @ $300, 18-55WR @ 125 Oh, the pain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've been tempted
If you decide to buy it, do a brick wall test at f2.8 before you complete the purchase. Some copies of that lens have misaligned elements, resulting in uneven focus across the frame. But good copies of the lens are excellent. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:52 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Local shop has a used 16-50/2.8 for $900. First one I've been able to physically get my hands on. So ... the FA28/2.8 and FA35/2 could equal a little over 1/2 of that lens' price. Could do it if I also sol either the 70/2.4 or the F50/1.7 + the 18-55WR. Let's see -- FA28/2.8 @ $250, FA35/2 @ $300, 18-55WR @ 125 Oh, the pain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs
I likewise couldn't find mention of the AA filter mode in the EXIF data. Use of the Sigma lens is fine by me. Appears to be good glass. Interesting that the ISO 12,800 exposure was done with noise reduction turned off. And it's quite good. I can't say for sure, but at a glance it appears to be less noisy than the K-5. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the EXIF, a couple of observations... 1) They used a SIGMA lens? 2) Where in the EXIF is the info regarding the selectable AA filter? It seems to be that any evaluation of K-3 image quality needs to specify if that was OFF, or MODE 1 or MODE 2 (so that we can judge the differences between images made at the different settings). I have no idea which of the above was used in the making of these images. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very good news. The noise level is acceptable even at 12,800, and the detail at lower ISOs is outstanding. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: PS...meant to give a link...SORRY http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/pentax-k3/pentax-k3A7.HTM On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: 6400 looks very good. Ladies and gentleman: We have a winner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've been tempted
If you decide to buy it, do a brick wall test at f2.8 before you complete the purchase. Some copies of that lens have misaligned elements, resulting in uneven focus across the frame. But good copies of the lens are excellent. Paul Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
Actually, I thought as much, but I had the momentum to proceed with the obvious. ;-) I read a comment once that I think of often. If you take just one shot, that's the best you're going to get. It's not at all unusual for me to drop a tripod at the spot where I first come upon a scene I want to shoot. After a number of varying compositions, I think I'm finished and start walking again only to discover a better vantage point and other desirable elements revealing themselves just a few steps steps closer. I took those first shots too soon and can't help but do it all again. Keeps it fun. Jack - Original Message - From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Getting out with a camera and giving yourself opportunities, will increase your chances of getting a good one. Be choosy once you've decided what good is, then learn the basics of composition, exposure and lighting. Good will then, likely, take on a new set of ever evolving conditions. Thanks, Jack. That was the intention of what I said. Obviously, simply taking a lot of shots is not sufficient. [If it were possible to *just* take a lot of shots.] But with a desire to learn the chances of learning increase the more shots you take. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “On the basis of evidence we may be sure that we are wrong but we can never be sure that we are right.” - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've been tempted
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 01:24:00PM -0400, CollinB wrote: If you decide to buy it, do a brick wall test at f2.8 before you complete the purchase. Some copies of that lens have misaligned elements, resulting in uneven focus across the frame. But good copies of the lens are excellent. Paul Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. I often wax eloquent about how much I love my FA77, and never say much about my 16-50. It's not a lens that inspires passion. What it is, however, is like my old Honda Civic wagon. It's just pretty damn good at anything, and being weatherproof, it will go just about anyplace. On the K-5, you don't need to worry about the weather when you have that lens. It's not as fast as a good prime, but on the K-5 you can wander around a city at night taking photos, hand held, without a flash. Except for a few shot with my bigma and my korean fisheye last week, I think that all of my photos on my trip to LA and back were shot with the 16-50. It's an unglamorous workhorse that just gets the job done. When I met John Francis, he said that his 16-50 pretty much lived on his camera. I've come to realize that mine now does as well. If I'm carrying my camera around in my fanny pack, I might put the DA35 macro on, because it is a lot smaller and lighter. If I'm going to be shooting outside and need range, 18-250. If I'm going to be shooting inside, without flash it might be the FA31, for the extra stop and a half. But, if you were only allowed one lens to go with a K-5, the 16-50 will probably get you better pictures more of the time than any other lens that I can think of. Assuming, of course, you get one that works. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've been tempted
But, if you were only allowed one lens to go with a K-5, the 16-50 will probably get you better pictures more of the time than any other lens that I can think of. Assuming, of course, you get one that works. -- Larry Colen Interesting thoughts. That's the reason I got the FA35/2. Really sharp and being the effective normal lens I can shot it and not care too much about having to crop. My most-used lens is the 18-55WR. Would like to see some comparisons between that and the 16-50. Perhaps I'll go there next week and do so. There have been times that I forsook zoom and just used the 35/2 and didn't worry about cropping. But that's in a controlled environment. When in NYC and shooting dancers indoors I use the 18-55. Also ... Did Tokina ever come out with the 12-24 in Pentax? I've not found one yet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Self portrait on a mountain bike (not me)
This one is for Frank:) http://shuttermuse.com/mountain-bike-self-portraits-pocketwizard/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs
This is for doing comparisons: http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs I likewise couldn't find mention of the AA filter mode in the EXIF data. Use of the Sigma lens is fine by me. Appears to be good glass. Interesting that the ISO 12,800 exposure was done with noise reduction turned off. And it's quite good. I can't say for sure, but at a glance it appears to be less noisy than the K-5. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the EXIF, a couple of observations... 1) They used a SIGMA lens? 2) Where in the EXIF is the info regarding the selectable AA filter? It seems to be that any evaluation of K-3 image quality needs to specify if that was OFF, or MODE 1 or MODE 2 (so that we can judge the differences between images made at the different settings). I have no idea which of the above was used in the making of these images. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very good news. The noise level is acceptable even at 12,800, and the detail at lower ISOs is outstanding. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: PS...meant to give a link...SORRY http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/pentax-k3/pentax-k3A7.HTM On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: 6400 looks very good. Ladies and gentleman: We have a winner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3222/6792 - Data di rilascio: 29/10/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Yeah, HCB said, Your first10,000 shots are your worst. This from a man who rarely (according to Gassman, his longtime developer) took more than two shots of a subject. Here's my thought (as a complete and utter amateur): The shoot lots thing is valid. As you said, Doug, if you're working the subject, playing with angles, doing it with some awareness and mindfulness, then it's worthwhile. Likewise, if you are later poring over your images and learning from mistakes, seeing what works and what doesn't, then it's valuable. If you're just machine gunning, hoping to get lucky, then it's a waste of batteries and pixels. The idea is to increase your hit rate. So Tom is kind of right. But so's everyone else. ;-) Cheers, frank Doug Brewer d...@dougbrewerphotography.com wrote: On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote: Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine gunning with the hope that one will be passable. I frequently, when working with a subject, will over-shoot, looking for variations on shots already in the bag, or to work past what we have done before. I get a pile of good shots that way, but a smaller pile of special shots. It's true that you must take many photos before you can start getting good ones regularly. I believe HCB said it takes ten thousand. I think I took considerably more than that before I got where I am, and I'm not where I want to be yet. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've been tempted
On 30 October 2013 18:03, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Also ... Did Tokina ever come out with the 12-24 in Pentax? I've not found one yet. The Pentax 12-24 _is_ the Tokina 12-24, only with SMC coatings and a new badge. As far as I understand anyway. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On 10/30/2013 14:21, knarf wrote: Yeah, HCB said, Your first10,000 shots are your worst. This from a man who rarely (according to Gassman, his longtime developer) took more than two shots of a subject. Here's my thought (as a complete and utter amateur): The shoot lots thing is valid. As you said, Doug, if you're working the subject, playing with angles, doing it with some awareness and mindfulness, then it's worthwhile. Likewise, if you are later poring over your images and learning from mistakes, seeing what works and what doesn't, then it's valuable. If you're just machine gunning, hoping to get lucky, then it's a waste of batteries and pixels. The idea is to increase your hit rate. * So Tom is kind of right. But so's everyone else. MARK! ;-) Cheers, frank When shooting slide film , especially if I was considering something for stock, I overshot - but my overshooting could have been a whole roll taken on a tri-pod, bracketing and straight duplication of something I felt was important... and then I'd take a couple of shots with the other camera in black and white if I really liked what I was shooting. The film was considered cheap in the sense that if you had to go back to the place your were shooting, or set up a new appointment with a person, for instance, overshooting was protection - not jsut against getting your ducks lined up but protecting against something like a bit of grit in your camera that left a nice scratch over several frames. I can't get out of the habit of overshooting in that fashion but I certainly shoot from the hip now and then instead of setting up and waiting for the moment. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My K3.....
On 28/10/13, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: .Will apparently be silver. I don't know if Pentax is doing this just for me, or if my pusher is, or what, but apparently the silver K3 and the black K3 are coming in at the same price, but the silver one comes with the grip and an extra battery. I guess I can live with a silver one. Estimated delivery is third week of November. I normally lust after black but I must say the silver - with the grip - looks pretty cool. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs
So, out of curiosity, I used the comparison page to pull up the EXIF info on the same ISO shots of the K-5II and the K-3. The K-5II EXIF printed out at 7 pages. The K-3 EXIF printed out at 27 pages. Under MAKERNOTES the K-5 II has a Quality: Premium where the K-3 has a Quality: Best. The K-5II had a FocusMode of AF-S while the K-3 had a FocusMode of Manual. The K-3 had an attribute of AFPointsInFocus (Fixed Center or Multiple) where the K-5II had no such attribute. The K-5II has an attribute of CPUFirmwareVersion (which was the same number as the DSPFirmware Version). The K-3 has only the DSPFirmware Version attribute. The K-5II had WhiteBalanceAutoAdjustment ON where the K-3 had it OFF. The K-5II had TungstenAWB Strong Correction while the K-3 had Subtle Correction The K-5II had BlackPoint (67 67 67 67) where the K-3 had (1 0 0 1) The K-5II had WhitePoint (17568 8192 8192 11616) where the K-3 had (17120 8192 8192 11136) The biggest differences were in the AEMeteringSegments, the FlashMeteringSegments, and the SlaveFlashMetering Segments. The K-5II had a small paragraph of values for each. The K-3 had 16 printed PAGES of values for AEMeteringSegments. Also interesting was that the K-3 had no CameraTemperature attribute, while the K-5II had 5 separate CameraTemperature attributes. This seems an odd omission. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: This is for doing comparisons: http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-3 Samples at various ISOs I likewise couldn't find mention of the AA filter mode in the EXIF data. Use of the Sigma lens is fine by me. Appears to be good glass. Interesting that the ISO 12,800 exposure was done with noise reduction turned off. And it's quite good. I can't say for sure, but at a glance it appears to be less noisy than the K-5. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the EXIF, a couple of observations... 1) They used a SIGMA lens? 2) Where in the EXIF is the info regarding the selectable AA filter? It seems to be that any evaluation of K-3 image quality needs to specify if that was OFF, or MODE 1 or MODE 2 (so that we can judge the differences between images made at the different settings). I have no idea which of the above was used in the making of these images. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very good news. The noise level is acceptable even at 12,800, and the detail at lower ISOs is outstanding. Paul On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: PS...meant to give a link...SORRY http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/pentax-k3/pentax-k3A7.HTM On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: 6400 looks very good. Ladies and gentleman: We have a winner! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3222/6792 - Data di rilascio: 29/10/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Student
On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/27/2013 1:26 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Had a eesny-weensy-teensy mini micro PDML in London today. Met up with Chris Mitchell and Bob Walkden at The Photographer's Gallery where we had some tea and chat before Alma, Stef and I had to drop supplies around to Stef's student accommodation a few miles away. Watch for another pic soon, but meanwhile here's a portrait by available light... http://cottycam.posthaven.com/student-in-hall-london-2013 Has Stef become taller than you, Cotty??? I didn't do any measurements, but Stef has indeed become very tall… :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
Here's a great article on motorsports photography describing a situation in which machine-gunning is the only way to go. Scott Jones is one of the top pros in the business (as you'll notice when you see his photos) and in this blog entry he describes the making of one particular shot. http://www.motogpmatters.com/blog/2012/02/16/photographer_s_blog_motogp_story_the_cat.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Tom, In the film days, each shot was $.25 and only pros took lots of shots. Now the cost per shot is almost zero, and the tyros 'spray and pray'. I enjoy taking more shots now, trying to work things out and saving money on film. I hope it's improving my photography. A new K-3 costs less than 150 rolls of Kodachrome (...if only we could process it). Regards, Bob S. From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net I agree to a certain extent. In some situations, preparing and shooting at the right moment is most critical and taking numerous shots can be a detriment to getting the one you want. In other situations, multiple exposures can be helpful. For example, when shooting the great blue heron a couple of weeks ago I knew that he was likely to take off, so I had preselected the central focus point and made sure I had plenty of shutter speed, then I just waited. When he did take off, I got one shot as he lifted off the water and waited to take a second until he was directly adjacent to me. If I had kept firing after liftoff, I probably wouldn't have gotten a good in-flight shot. On the other hand, when shooting cars for publication, I'll record numerous exposures of the same shot, sometimes turning the polarizer a bit or reframing slightly. Too many choices are just enough. But I rarely bracket, since a good average exposure provides plenty of working room when the RAW is converted. Paul Bob, As a general statement, I don't believe in the spray and pray approach. It leaves too many things to chance. Yes, if you have a moving model, race car, airplane, children, wildlife, etc., being in continuous shooting mode may increase your chances of getting an image that excels above others. That's what it's for. I was responding to the notion that the *secret* to getting good shots is taking a lot of shots, which was the statement made. If that's true then photography is like the lottery. I see many examples of that approach, and the chances of getting a good shot are about the same. As I said, shooting in continuous mode may be required at times due to the subject matter, but then if one gets an exceptional image the difference between that one image and the two or three surrounding it that are unexceptional is likely just the random timing of the shutter syncing up with the subject at just the right moment. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. In my opinion taking a lot of shots does not improve one's photography any more than throwing a 1000 darts at a dartboard blind folded improves one's game. Will one get more bulls eye's the more darts one throws? No doubt. But possibly the ratio of bulls eye's to misses actually decreases with that approach. I'm probably stating the obvious, but getting good shots is usually a matter of having a good eye for composition, paying attention to technical details, shooting in the right light, using the right tool for the job, knowing one's gear. All those will contribute more to getting a good image than simply taking a lot of shots. I'm not stating something you don't already know. I realize that. :) Paul, Agreed. Even in landscape photography, which seldom requires shooting in continuous mode, I can get in a rush because of the excitement of the moment while at the same time believing I'm paying attention to details when I'm not. My brain can essentially turn off and it's Ooh! Ah! Ooh! moments. Then I look at what I captured. Very very often, I can see that I wasn't really thinking. When I slow down and carefully take the time to compose, frame, consider exposure, use a tripod if needed... those are most often the times I get excellent results. Then I was a real contributor to the image, as opposed to simply the person pressing the shutter release. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Doug Brewer d...@dougbrewerphotography.com wrote: There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine gunning with the hope that one will be passable. Thanks, Doug. I hope it’s obvious I wasn’t talking about “machine gunning.” I was taking it for granted that the photographer is trying his/her best, using whatever knowledge and skill he/she has at that point, and wants to learn, to improve, to get better. On my walk last week I literally had my camera in-hand almost the entire day every day for the entire week. And every day I took a lot of shots. I’d never done that before. I’ve been telling people back here that I learned a lot of British history just by walking around. I also improved a little as a photographer, for just these reasons. It's true that you must take many photos before you can start getting good ones regularly. I believe HCB said it takes ten thousand. I have encountered statements like that from others. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Hatred destroys. Love heals. - Eknath Easwaran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My K3.....
Congrats on the K-3 and getting the limited for the same price as the plain chocolate version, Bill! I just haven't cared for the silver (like they put on the FA-J and the cheaper MZ film cameras). The metallic-like silver of the MX (etc) now that I like. Not sure why they can't get that same look these days. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 28/10/13, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: .Will apparently be silver. I don't know if Pentax is doing this just for me, or if my pusher is, or what, but apparently the silver K3 and the black K3 are coming in at the same price, but the silver one comes with the grip and an extra battery. I guess I can live with a silver one. Estimated delivery is third week of November. I normally lust after black but I must say the silver - with the grip - looks pretty cool. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: how to learn to take photos (was: Re: White-Faced Heron)
Making a lot of exposures is important to learning how to use your camera and lenses. But *just* making a lot of exposures doesn't teach you much by itself, it's only with the addition of and paying attention to what you're doing as well as the results you get that you learn something. Once you understand your equipment, making a lot of exposures is useful sometimes as the article Mark Roberts posted demonstrates. But, frankly, I find that to be a rarity. MOST of the sports photographers I know make a lot of exposures but not in a machine-gunning way … they are simply working with a fast moving event that requires a lot of exposures be made because most of them will not be at the right time. Some photo luminary once said, I only need to know three things: where to stand, where to point the camera, and when to press the shutter button. You need to make enough exposures to know where to stand and where to point the camera. What comes over time, with study and practice, is when—and how often—to press the shutter button. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion taking a lot of shots does not improve one's photography any more than throwing a 1000 darts at a dartboard blind folded improves one's game…. I'm probably stating the obvious, but getting good shots is usually a matter of having a good eye for composition, paying attention to technical details, shooting in the right light, using the right tool for the job, knowing one's gear. Yeah, you definitely are. You don’t need to size up the situation? You don’t need to look through the viewfinder? You don’t need to think about what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check your settings? You don’t need to think about what settings are called for in the situation given what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check the results you’re getting and adjust? How stupid do you think I am? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On my walk last week…. Last month. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net A man should be in the world as though he were not in it so that it will be no worse because of his life. - Wendell Berry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Oh dear, what have I started :) On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:21 am, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The shoot lots thing is valid. As you said, Doug, if you're working the subject, playing with angles, doing it with some awareness and mindfulness, then it's worthwhile. That's pretty much my take on it. With the shots of the next bird that I haven't shown yet, and to a lesser extent this heron, I was intentionally taking a lot because of AF limitations. I know this camera/lens combo is a bit hit-and-miss as DOF is very limited and the sensor isn't selective enough to lock onto the eye every time (neither's my aim when the subject is moving). With the heron walking about I had plenty of different lighting angles, poses and background arrangements to play with as well. Most of the time I only take one or two photos of any given subject. It's a habit I've carried over from the film days. It makes editing a lot easier! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
It is unfortunate that this thread has devolved into the crapfest that one can now (apparently) expect whenever Tom decides to post something to this list. I almost forgot to look that image that David originally posted: http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso I was taken aback at it's beauty. Yes, it is a beautiful creature, but the capture (lighting, DOF, sharpness, color, etc) is STUNNING. One of the best I've seen on PDML this year. That is publication quality or should be commemorated as a postage stamp or something. Superb! On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Here's a great article on motorsports photography describing a situation in which machine-gunning is the only way to go. Scott Jones is one of the top pros in the business (as you'll notice when you see his photos) and in this blog entry he describes the making of one particular shot. http://www.motogpmatters.com/blog/2012/02/16/photographer_s_blog_motogp_story_the_cat.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Yeah, you definitely are. You don’t need to size up the situation? You don’t need to look through the viewfinder? You don’t need to think about what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check your settings? You don’t need to think about what settings are called for in the situation given what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check the results you’re getting and adjust? How stupid do you think I am? Well Eric there's plenty of people who proscribe exactly to the rationale you just outlined. In answer to you're question, I believe you're the most qualified to answer. That's the smartest answer I can give. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Doug Brewer wrote: On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote: Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine gunning with the hope that one will be passable. I frequently, when working with a subject, will over-shoot, looking for variations on shots already in the bag, or to work past what we have done before. I get a pile of good shots that way, but a smaller pile of special shots. It's true that you must take many photos before you can start getting good ones regularly. I believe HCB said it takes ten thousand. I think I took considerably more than that before I got where I am, and I'm not where I want to be yet. BTW: In the case of fashion photographers the answer to why they take so many shots is often because that's what the editors demand. Some will totally decompensate if they don't have thousands of images, with the slightest variation between any two, to choose from. If you're a working pro you have to deliver what the client wants (unless you're one of a handful of elites who can dictate to editors what you're going to give them). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 03:02:40PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: It is unfortunate that this thread has devolved into the crapfest that one can now (apparently) expect whenever Tom decides to post something to this list. I almost forgot to look that image that David originally posted: http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso I was taken aback at it's beauty. Yes, it is a beautiful creature, but the capture (lighting, DOF, sharpness, color, etc) is STUNNING. One of the best I've seen on PDML this year. That is publication quality or should be commemorated as a postage stamp or something. Superb! Yes, it is a great shot. Frankly, I don't care whether he got it in one shutter press, or it took 100 tries. Whatever he did worked to get that photo, and in the end, that is what matters. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Here's a great article on motorsports photography describing a situation in which machine-gunning is the only way to go. Scott Jones is one of the top pros in the business (as you'll notice when you see his photos) and in this blog entry he describes the making of one particular shot. http://www.motogpmatters.com/blog/2012/02/16/photographer_s_blog_motogp_story_the_cat.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Spray and Pray app for iPhone
While this may not be necessary if your subject is a pine tree or a mountain, for sports, kids and pets you may find this app more than occasionally useful: SnappyCam http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/31/fastest-iphone-camera/ -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Turn your smartphone into a digital microscope for around $10
Ever wanted to try your hand at microphotography but lacked the requisite microscope? Why let a little thing like that stop you? Overview and video: http://www.tuaw.com/2013/10/25/turn-your-iphone-into-a-high-power-digital-microscope-for-around/ Actual Instructable: http://www.instructables.com/id/10-Smartphone-to-digital-microscope-conversion/ The lens from a cheap laser pointer is brilliant. Now that I have an iPhone I will have to try this. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Cycle Mounts - Request
Can't believe a TV (that's television...) cameraperson didn't just pick up the roll of gaffer tape. I'm so shocked it's taken me two days to respond. On 28/10/2013, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: Throwing this open to the list as there are plenty of cycle-holics on here. Anyone know of any decent clamp-on specially-shaped mounts for GoPro (or similar) cameras for attaching to expensive and sensitive aerodynamically contoured carbon fibre cycle frames? GoPro mounts are ten-a-penny but when you come to try and attach them to high-end racing bikes, not only do their riders get very skittish about clamping onto irregular shaped carbon fiber, but actually it's impossible to do quickly and easily. If I had to design it and build it myself, I know exactly what I need, but perhaps someone knows of a good starting point? Any pointers to existing web pages or images gratefully appreciated. I recently filmed an Olympic cyclist but had very little time. With my existing kit I could have done it, but not in the few minutes I had available. Woulda taken me 15 or 20 to set up. I need it to be 1 or 2 minutes! Thanks. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Darren wrote: It is unfortunate that this thread has devolved into the crapfest that one can now (apparently) expect whenever Tom decides to post something to this list. ad hominem Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote: Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine gunning with the hope that one will be passable. I frequently, when working with a subject, will over-shoot, looking for variations on shots already in the bag, or to work past what we have done before. I get a pile of good shots that way, but a smaller pile of special shots. It's true that you must take many photos before you can start getting good ones regularly. I believe HCB said it takes ten thousand. I think I took considerably more than that before I got where I am, and I'm not where I want to be yet. BTW: In the case of fashion photographers the answer to why they take so many shots is often because that's what the editors demand. Some will totally decompensate if they don't have thousands of images, with the slightest variation between any two, to choose from. If you're a working pro you have to deliver what the client wants (unless you're one of a handful of elites who can dictate to editors what you're going to give them). To that add that trying to get a model to strike that perfect pose with the perfect expression is extremely difficult. So you have them try different things and you keep snapping away. You simply can't get it in a reasonable number of shots with most models. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: White-Faced Heron
I know I looked at it and I thought I complimented David on it. It's a lovely photo. :-) G On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I almost forgot to look that image that David originally posted: http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/673/#peso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, you definitely are. You don’t need to size up the situation? You don’t need to look through the viewfinder? You don’t need to think about what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check your settings? You don’t need to think about what settings are called for in the situation given what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check the results you’re getting and adjust? How stupid do you think I am? Well Eric there's plenty of people who proscribe exactly to the rationale you just outlined. I find that *very* hard to believe. And despite the fact that it’s stupidity goes without saying you attributed it to me. You would profit from trying a little charitability in your interpretations In answer to you're question, I believe you're the most qualified to answer. That's the smartest answer I can give. I’ll let that speak for itself. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Fall Drive in the Sierra Foothills
Wife and I just returned from what the SUBJECT heading describes. I'm sure we never were over 1,000 ft, but saw a bit of muted fall tones. We were in an area where there are a number of exclusive wineries. No admittance unless you have a wine tasting appointment. Tried one gate guard who turned us away with little ceremony. Told him we were looking for fall color draped hillside vineyards to photograph. His answer was, 'you can turn around over there. Comments welcome Jack K-5, church: DA 16~45, mobile: DA* 50~135 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=715 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=716 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You Know What Darren?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I've come to the conclusion that I probably don't really like you very much. I know it will be a supreme struggle, but I'll just have to get over that. You've seen fit to unload on me a number of times and demean me simply because I don't share your choice of favorite camera brand. How trivial is that? Tom I have to admit that I always find it amusing when the demeaner objects when they perceive that *they* are being demeaned. Please use some of the intellectual honesty on which you seem to feel you have the market cornered and review each every one of your posts to PDML over the last 6 months (or more). Virtually each and every time it has been to put someone down, tacitly elevate yourself, or talk trash in some form or other. If you are butt-hurt for me noting that and calling you out for it, I guess that is to be expected. I'm not sure whether your problem when you post to PDML is that: you started drinking too early in the day, OR if it is that you didn't start drinking early enough. In any event, I've had more than enough and henceforth your mail will be going straight to my Gmail trash. If any other Gmail user's wish to learn about such filters, here's a link. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8151?hl=en (As a rule, I like my posts to be helpful or informative in *some* way) -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT is Photoshop evil?
http://www.upworthy.com/see-why-we-have-an-absolutely-ridiculous-standard-of-beauty-in-just-37-seconds Of course not but sometimes ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT is Photoshop evil?
I blame Barbie dolls. Perhaps makeup is evil also. Photoshop is a tool and any tool can be used for good or ill. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:52 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://www.upworthy.com/see-why-we-have-an-absolutely-ridiculous-standard-of-beauty-in-just-37-seconds Of course not but sometimes ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You Know What Darren?
Darren you're a blowhard. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: How stupid do you think I am? Well, you shoot Pentax, so I have a guess as to Tom's opinion. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I'm probably stating the obvious, but getting good shots is usually a matter of having a good eye for composition, paying attention to technical details, shooting in the right light, using the right tool for the job, knowing one's gear. All those will contribute more to getting a good image than simply taking a lot of shots. Most of us develop those skills through experience and practice, and I expect that's the take lots of shots approach that Eric is advocating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: How stupid do you think I am? Well, you shoot Pentax, so I have a guess as to Tom's opinion. That may be part of it. I suspect there’s something else going on. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Pentax now in vogue?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ]. The 6x7 is somewhat difficult to load, and on a fashion shoot, a reload might come every couple of minutes. I hear ya Brother Paul Dave PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT is Photoshop evil?
A gay friend of mine was a model when he was younger. He quit doing it because the person he saw in the pictures was not him. I'll never forget how he put it that way. I don't look at women in magazines. They look really fake. Those kinds of girls looks equally as fake in real life too, just in a different sort of way. People have been airbrushing since the days of pictorialism and it isn't going to stop now. These magazines need to show some restraint though. They are presenting a fantasy world to people where everyone weights 90lbs, is six feet tall and has huge perfect eyes and smiles. Anorexia is a hugely growing problem unfortunately, so that makes this all bad in the end I guess. Don't let your kids watch TV or read vogue. There. Evil influences eradicated. I don't even own a television anymore. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I blame Barbie dolls. Perhaps makeup is evil also. Photoshop is a tool and any tool can be used for good or ill. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:52 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://www.upworthy.com/see-why-we-have-an-absolutely-ridiculous-standard-of-beauty-in-just-37-seconds Of course not but sometimes ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Pentax now in vogue?
I'm guessing they needed a old school camera prop and the photog happened to have his old 67 laying around. Just a guess. Pentax was actually quite in vogue when the 6x7 came out and certainly remained the weapon of choice for many a fashion photographer. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:36 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ]. The 6x7 is somewhat difficult to load, and on a fashion shoot, a reload might come every couple of minutes. I hear ya Brother Paul Dave PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT is Photoshop evil?
Alexandros of Antioch _could_ have left that big rough block of marble in its beautiful and natural state. Instead he used his dastardly tools to create an idealized female form, forever warping our minds into thinking that the Venus de Milo was something to admire. Passing off retouched models as real is the same as passing off beer as a lifestyle or shiny cars as life-changing objects -- it's all marketing. Don't folks these days know fictions when they see 'em? Pffft. Yet another non-event. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:52 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://www.upworthy.com/see-why-we-have-an-absolutely-ridiculous-standard-of-beauty-in-just-37-seconds Of course not but sometimes ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - 107-114 - GDG
On 29/10/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10566765105/lightbox Like -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2013 - 107-114 - GDG
On 29/10/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10566820334/lightbox VERY atmospheric! Love it -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: On 10/30/13 10:25 AM, Alan C wrote: Why do fashion photographers take so many shots then? Alan There is a difference between working a subject, or having a range of good shots in which you will find one that works best, and machine gunning with the hope that one will be passable. I frequently, when working with a subject, will over-shoot, looking for variations on shots already in the bag, or to work past what we have done before. I get a pile of good shots that way, but a smaller pile of special shots. It's true that you must take many photos before you can start getting good ones regularly. I believe HCB said it takes ten thousand. I think I took considerably more than that before I got where I am, and I'm not where I want to be yet. BTW: In the case of fashion photographers the answer to why they take so many shots is often because that's what the editors demand. Some will totally decompensate if they don't have thousands of images, with the slightest variation between any two, to choose from. If you're a working pro you have to deliver what the client wants (unless you're one of a handful of elites who can dictate to editors what you're going to give them). To that add that trying to get a model to strike that perfect pose with the perfect expression is extremely difficult. So you have them try different things and you keep snapping away. You simply can't get it in a reasonable number of shots with most models. Yes, unlike many other kinds of shooting, portraits and models is one of stepwise refinement. Start with a pose, shoot that, then direct model to move in some way to improve on what you have. Shoot, repeat. Stop when you feel you've exhausted that one or you're sure you got a great one in there. Numbers fans: from my last model shoot (corsets): - 329 shots total taken during 4.5 hours (including 4 wardrobe and makeup changes, lighting changes, props, etc.). - 224 shots deemed technically okay. - 71 shots deemed contenders for post-processing - 23 shots rated strong; discussed with clients (model, my wife) - 8 selected for retouching and delivered. - 4 are what I myself consider to be good work. So yeah, shoot lots. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso big sur
On 28/10/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Didn't get any real outstanding shots on our drive through big sur, but I think that this is a pleasant collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157637075885303/ Disagree. These are super: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10550929223/in/set-72157637075885303 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10550696394/in/set-72157637075885303 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion taking a lot of shots does not improve one's photography any more than throwing a 1000 darts at a dartboard blind folded improves one's game…. I'm probably stating the obvious, but getting good shots is usually a matter of having a good eye for composition, paying attention to technical details, shooting in the right light, using the right tool for the job, knowing one's gear. Yeah, you definitely are. You don’t need to size up the situation? You don’t need to look through the viewfinder? You don’t need to think about what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check your settings? You don’t need to think about what settings are called for in the situation given what you want to accomplish? You don’t need to check the results you’re getting and adjust? How stupid do you think I am? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net I am not sure where you are coming from in your response to Tom, Eric. He was stating some fundamental truths, presumably to bring the discussion back on center. There are two separate notions confabulated here. One is: what does it take to improve in one's photography. The second is: what does it take to take a good image. The answer to the first question is that you need to practice, study, observe, practice some more. That means taking many shots, thoughtfully, then examining the results and thinking about what went right and what went wrong, then going back and doing it again (hopefully applying some of the lessons learned from the intervening study and reflection). In the process of taking your first 10,000 or first 100,000 images, some will most likely be keepers. Good subject, good composition, appropriate settings on aperture, shutter speed, and ISO, no camera shake, no glare. etc. The more you shoot, the higher your odds are of getting those special images that you will treasure. Taking lots of shots can not only help you get better, it can also help you get lucky. Presumably we all want to rely on more than luck. What it takes to learn a craft, to gain the skills, is not what it takes to execute those skills. Yes, photographers who have moved from beginner to novice to journeyman to some level of expertise will still practice techniques, study and reflect on the results. But they don't need great volumes of images to enable that study because they have learned to look at the subtleties that make the difference between a good picture and a great one. So, yes they are still in a learning mode, hopefully always will be, and most of what it takes to learn as a novice is still true of what it takes to learn even after becoming an expert or master. But going into the studio or into the field is something else. Setting aside the special case of fast-moving wildlife or race cars or athletes, getting good shots isn't about taking a lot of shots. It is about choosing the right subject, the right composition, the right lens, the right level of artificial illumination when called for, appropriate settings for speed, aperture, ISO. When you have all of that right, there is no need for more than one shot. Take it and move 3 feet and recompose and do it again. Which is what I thought Tom was saying in fewer words: quality of process beats quantity in the long run. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: In Honer of the World Series K-01
On 28/10/13, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: Hohner made harmonicas Still do. Mine's a C :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Cycle Mounts - Request
On 29/10/13, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: No doubt you have other similar replies, but I've used a short length of inner tube (very useful old inner tubes). Wrap once around the tube and a second time, this time fitting in a pencil or biro piece or equivalent. You can then nip some cable ties up, and when it comes to removing it, you can slide out the sandwiched packing part to give you room to cut the cable ties, without any damage to whatever shape the tube is. I did this once with mine, no evidence of anything ever being fitted. Great idea - thanks! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White-Faced Heron
Paul Stenquist wrote: On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: BTW: In the case of fashion photographers the answer to why they take so many shots is often because that's what the editors demand. Some will totally decompensate if they don't have thousands of images, with the slightest variation between any two, to choose from. If you're a working pro you have to deliver what the client wants (unless you're one of a handful of elites who can dictate to editors what you're going to give them). To that add that trying to get a model to strike that perfect pose with the perfect expression is extremely difficult. So you have them try different things and you keep snapping away. You simply can't get it in a reasonable number of shots with most models. Yep. At the college where I teach we have a bi-annual student-produced fashion magazine. On Tuesday at our Graphic Design club meeting were going through possible cover photos. Probably a thousand of them. The difference a small change in pose can make is astonishing. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Cycle Mounts - Request
On 29/10/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's a pretty good cycle mount for a camera. Made for a motorcycle but perhaps could be adapted: https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos- prn2/1393362_708721125822899_562094127_n.jpg LOL! Thanks mate ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Cycle Mounts - Request
On 30/10/13, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Can't believe a TV (that's television...) cameraperson didn't just pick up the roll of gaffer tape. I'm so shocked it's taken me two days to respond. I take your humour but in reality, I do use gaffer tape (and the less sticky version 'camera tape') on many things - but these cyclists are prickly customers. They get a bit fickle when they see a roll of tape near their big-bucks bikes -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GFM news
Those of you who've attended the GFM photography workshops over the past few years will be disappointed to learn that Grandfather Mountain's publicity director Landis is leaving the job and moving on to another position. It sounds like a great career move for her but it's a loss for the rest of us who'll miss her presence. Doug and I plan on terrifying her successor next June... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
UK PDML: Coming to London in January
Dr. Lisa and I will be hitting the UK again in January. 11 through 18 January, to be precise. We've got theatre tickets and have a few other things planned (Wildlife Photographer of the Year at the Natural History Museum and Astronomy Photographer of the Year in Greenwich, to name two) but are still working out the rest of our plans. Lisa wants to see Cambridge so we may spend a day or two there, but that's not definite yet. And suggestions from UK PDML people for activities/events will be joyously entertained. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Cycle Mounts - Request
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 30/10/13, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Can't believe a TV (that's television...) cameraperson didn't just pick up the roll of gaffer tape. I'm so shocked it's taken me two days to respond. I take your humour but in reality, I do use gaffer tape (and the less sticky version 'camera tape') on many things - but these cyclists are prickly customers. They get a bit fickle when they see a roll of tape near their big-bucks bikes Who said anything about taping the camera to the bike? You tape it to the *cyclist*... ;-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM news
On 30/10/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Those of you who've attended the GFM photography workshops over the past few years will be disappointed to learn that Grandfather Mountain's publicity director Landis is leaving the job and moving on to another position. The positions I've ever seen her in were pretty dandy ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: UK PDML: Coming to London in January
On 30/10/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Dr. Lisa and I will be hitting the UK again in January. 11 through 18 January, to be precise. We've got theatre tickets and have a few other things planned (Wildlife Photographer of the Year at the Natural History Museum and Astronomy Photographer of the Year in Greenwich, to name two) but are still working out the rest of our plans. Lisa wants to see Cambridge so we may spend a day or two there, but that's not definite yet. And suggestions from UK PDML people for activities/events will be joyously entertained. Excellent! Any excuse to visit the drunks and pubs in Greenwich is good for me :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
