Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/11/13, Bruce, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap as long as you
don't print anything. 

Mark!

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Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Bob W
I got rid of my printers because I never used them and space is at a premium in 
a small house like mine. If I need to print text I do it at work. If I wanted 
to print photos regularly I'd investigate the long-term costs of having to buy 
ink versus printing at a lab.

B

 On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap as long as you don't 
 print anything.   I didn't see any mention of actually printing,  so you 
 could be pretty safe recommending just about anything. 
 
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 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Had a request from the boy.
 
 Verbatim:
 -
 Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept it (which you
 should(upon death if you dont))):
 need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and affordable
 ink.
 Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
 --
 
 Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - well
 plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the money on the
 inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. Affordable ink? Well, not
 the manufacturers ink then.
 
 I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks
 
 http://www.hornseaink.com/
 
 and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started using
 them about a year ago.
 
 Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for closer to
 £200 !
 
 Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)
 

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Bob W
That's very impressive.

B

 On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 
 But in a *good* way:
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10
 
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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Attila Boros
Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you get?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's very impressive.

 B

 On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

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Re: More K-3 exploration

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Why not go back to shutter release autofocus? it works for most shooters and 
helps ensure focus won't change before shutter release.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:12 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 
 Besides the continuous shot sound files I posted earlier, I played around 
 with a few other K-3 features. 
 I did another two ISO series, one with, one without high ISO NR turned on. 
 All full stops from ISO100 to 51200. (K-3 only, no more comparisons to the 
 K-5ii). I'll post those if anyone wants to see the results. In brief, there 
 is noise at higher ISO, in-camera NR may make a difference but 
 post-processing is still needed. But even I can get a decent ISO51200 image 
 with a bit of LR4.2 effort.
 
 I tried out the in-camera HDR. Like with the K-5, it offers the option of HDR 
 Auto, HDR1, HDR2, and HDR3. I am clueless as to what those designations are 
 supposed to mean, and neither manual has any hints. Unlike the K-5, the K-3 
 in-camera HDR works on RAW files. 
 
1. In-camera HDR takes about 5-7 seconds of data processing time after the 
 three images have been shot.
2. The resulting file is in the 90-95mb size range. I don't now why. That 
 is like they just added the three original files together; where is the 
 processing?
3. A simple 3-shot bracket, exported to Photomatix, can be worked into a 
 good HDR, lots of variation possible, and it takes little time while shooting.
4. The in-camera HDR may be slow and lacking in processing options, but it 
 doesn't require heroic post-processing.
 
 One of my experiments was to focus-stack a series of HDR shots of a 
 still-life similar to what I posted yesterday. I am loving the tonality and 
 detail I am getting! 
 
 This playing-around is not yet producing any images that are likely to pay 
 for the camera. But they are helping me get comfortable with the use of the 
 camera. 
 
 So far I am quite disappointed by one thing. I had thought that I would stop 
 with one K-3 and keep one of my perfectly good almost new K-5ii's as my 
 second body  backup. But a couple of months ago I switched to a back-button 
 focus mode of shooting, have come to quite prefer that approach and am 
 comfortable using it. The K-3 moves the relevant AF button. Moves it to a 
 better place IMHO, but still, it is moved. In its old location is the Green 
 Button. Eventually I will learn to quickly almost-automatically find the new 
 AF button and not have my shooting concentration spoiled by inadvertent 
 pushes of the Green Button and the consequent screwing up of my carefully 
 chosen balance between ISO, Aperture, and Speed. And I can re-program the 
 Green Button to not do anything (which is a bit of a waste). But I seriously 
 doubt that I can quickly switch back and forth between the two bodies. So I 
 need to either give up my two-body style of shooting or I need a second K-3. 
 But I really really 
 need an updated computer to precess the K-3 files. . . 
 
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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Mark C
Thanks! I was about 15 feet from the birds, which is close to the lens's 
minimum focusing distance. The flash does not seem to bother them. There 
were times when the whi! clank! of the cam based AF did send them 
flying. AF on the 400mm Tokina tends to be pretty load and it makes a 
noticeable clank when it hits the end stop.


Mark

On 11/8/2013 5:28 AM, Attila Boros wrote:

Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you get?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

That's very impressive.

B


On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

But in a *good* way:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Mark C

Thanks, Igor!

On 11/7/2013 10:32 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

Re:MarkAble!
:-)

On 11/7/2013 6:40 PM, Mark C wrote:

But in a *good* way:

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Mark C

No... just your M.O.!

On 11/7/2013 10:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

400 frames in 20 minutes?  Are you trying to steal my identity?





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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Alan C
Looks like you are setting new standards. Greta images  this is only the 
start.


Alan C


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But in a *good* way:

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
All hand held, Mark? Looking forward to getting out with my 60-250, although 
it's tough to get close enough for shots of small birds. Maybe I can find 
another egret or heron. Would love to have David's FA 400. My A 400/5.6 is okay 
but I'd like to take advantage of the K-3's autofocus capability. 

Paul
On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 Thanks! I was about 15 feet from the birds, which is close to the lens's 
 minimum focusing distance. The flash does not seem to bother them. There were 
 times when the whi! clank! of the cam based AF did send them flying. AF 
 on the 400mm Tokina tends to be pretty load and it makes a noticeable clank 
 when it hits the end stop.
 
 Mark
 
 On 11/8/2013 5:28 AM, Attila Boros wrote:
 Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you get?
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's very impressive.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 
 But in a *good* way:
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10
 
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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce Walker
I have no luck using flash with birds. Every time the makeup artists
gets close they fly away.


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 Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you get?

 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's very impressive.

 B

 On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 But in a *good* way:

 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
finaly real life test. Bird shots look great

Dave

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no luck using flash with birds. Every time the makeup artists
 gets close they fly away.
 
I've tried to find makeup artists who could fly, thinking that would make an 
interesting shot, but thus far they've eluded me.

Paul
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you get?
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's very impressive.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 
 But in a *good* way:
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10
 
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FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Darren Addy
Greetings all,
I was so pleased with my first attempt to use my O-GPS1 for
astrophotography that I have decided to jump in whole hog as we say
here in Nebraska. In order to help (very partially) pay for my
equatorial system I am selling my O-GPS1.

You may recall that it was used to produce the subs for this image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/10299785464/

Selling the O-GPS that made the image you see above for $190 plus
actual shipping charges (and will be happy to ship worldwide to PDML
members).

Comet ISON is inbound and set to put on a show, so its a great time to
snag this one and see what a cool piece of engineering it really is.

- - -
In addition, I have:
EXC Pentax-A 135mm f2.8
VG Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5 macro (the legendary stack-o-primes)
EXC Pentax-M 135mm f3.5
Pentax MX with M50 f1.7

and
Minolta Maxxum (Sony Alpha) AF 24mm f2.8 with original caps and case (EXC)

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Darren Addy
The O-GPS1 sold in 6 minutes.
:)


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I was so pleased with my first attempt to use my O-GPS1 for
 astrophotography that I have decided to jump in whole hog as we say
 here in Nebraska. In order to help (very partially) pay for my
 equatorial system I am selling my O-GPS1.

 You may recall that it was used to produce the subs for this image:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/10299785464/

 Selling the O-GPS that made the image you see above for $190 plus
 actual shipping charges (and will be happy to ship worldwide to PDML
 members).

 Comet ISON is inbound and set to put on a show, so its a great time to
 snag this one and see what a cool piece of engineering it really is.

 - - -
 In addition, I have:
 EXC Pentax-A 135mm f2.8
 VG Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5 macro (the legendary stack-o-primes)
 EXC Pentax-M 135mm f3.5
 Pentax MX with M50 f1.7

 and
 Minolta Maxxum (Sony Alpha) AF 24mm f2.8 with original caps and case (EXC)

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Big Typhoon in the Philippines, hope Bong is ok!

2013-11-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Some tough weather in the Philippines.  Bong, hope you’re safe.  Cheers, 
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PESO 2013 - 130-133 - GDG

2013-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The latest details ... 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743512586/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743430455/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743530754/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743530304/lightbox

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Kenneth Waller

Great examples Mark! I feel I'm being drawn closer to purchase.

-Original Message-
From: Alan C c...@lantic.net
Subject: Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

Looks like you are setting new standards. Greta images  this is only the 
start.

Alan C


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But in a *good* way:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Zos Xavius
The price was right. I would have bought it if I had the cash.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The O-GPS1 sold in 6 minutes.
 :)


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I was so pleased with my first attempt to use my O-GPS1 for
 astrophotography that I have decided to jump in whole hog as we say
 here in Nebraska. In order to help (very partially) pay for my
 equatorial system I am selling my O-GPS1.

 You may recall that it was used to produce the subs for this image:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/10299785464/

 Selling the O-GPS that made the image you see above for $190 plus
 actual shipping charges (and will be happy to ship worldwide to PDML
 members).

 Comet ISON is inbound and set to put on a show, so its a great time to
 snag this one and see what a cool piece of engineering it really is.

 - - -
 In addition, I have:
 EXC Pentax-A 135mm f2.8
 VG Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5 macro (the legendary stack-o-primes)
 EXC Pentax-M 135mm f3.5
 Pentax MX with M50 f1.7

 and
 Minolta Maxxum (Sony Alpha) AF 24mm f2.8 with original caps and case (EXC)

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Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce
I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In fact,  it 
was shot with the first Pentax DSLR that was available to the masses. 

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/sets/72157635419000680/

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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

 Years ago when I sold cameras, we had a dog and pony show put on by the 
 various reps. This was back in the day when you could smoke in public, and I 
 was, at the time, a smoker. The Pentax guy had a 50mm lens sitting on his 
 desk, and he invited anyone who wanted to to butt their cigarette on the 
 front glass. I think about a dozen of us took him up on the offer over the 
 course of the day. The lens was completely unharmed by this abuse.

Wow! No need of an ashtray, but don’t think I’d use any of my lenses that way 
if I did.

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Re: PESO 2013 - 130-133 - GDG

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce
The Tree Hugger is my favorite of the set.   Pretty cool to see shots taken 
with such old equipment. 


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Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
The latest details ... 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743512586/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743430455/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743530754/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10743530304/lightbox

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce
Since when did having cash have any bearing on buying camera equipment? 

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Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
The price was right. I would have bought it if I had the cash.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
 The O-GPS1 sold in 6 minutes.
 :)


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I was so pleased with my first attempt to use my O-GPS1 for
 astrophotography that I have decided to jump in whole hog as we
say
 here in Nebraska. In order to help (very partially) pay for my
 equatorial system I am selling my O-GPS1.

 You may recall that it was used to produce the subs for this image:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/10299785464/

 Selling the O-GPS that made the image you see above for $190 plus
 actual shipping charges (and will be happy to ship worldwide to PDML
 members).

 Comet ISON is inbound and set to put on a show, so its a great time
to
 snag this one and see what a cool piece of engineering it really is.

 - - -
 In addition, I have:
 EXC Pentax-A 135mm f2.8
 VG Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5 macro (the legendary stack-o-primes)
 EXC Pentax-M 135mm f3.5
 Pentax MX with M50 f1.7

 and
 Minolta Maxxum (Sony Alpha) AF 24mm f2.8 with original caps and case
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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce
seems my link was to the whole set rather than the specific picture. 

Here is the right link,  I hope:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/10743653485/

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Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In
fact,  it was shot with the first Pentax DSLR that was available to the
masses. 

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/sets/72157635419000680/

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OT - how a nobel prize winner opens a hard drive

2013-11-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

I know that some PDMLers are very skillful in opening their lenses.
In this video:
http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Albert-Fert-The-Rugby-Player-Who-Got-the-Nobel-Prize-25570
or directly on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyV208Bqax0#t=457
a Nobel Prize winner, opens a hard-drive (go to 7:37, - the video
configuration doesn't allow to start it from the particular time,
by specifying that in the link).  

Don't blame me if it doesn't work with your lens. :-)

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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

Thanks to all who responded on this thread. Other matters needing my 
attention—and the sheer number of responses—caused me to leave the discussion 
alone for a while. But I really do appreciate all the input, the diversity of 
it included. I consider myself a bit more educated than I was before, which 
means I have to decide for myself. But now I some idea of the things that need 
to be taken into consideration. 

FWIW, I exchanged the 67mm haze filter for two 49mm clear coated filters and 
will use them with a hood. Perhaps at some point I will experience a problem 
with flaring, at which point I’ll reconsider. 

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How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

Just noticed that with my new 50-200/4-5.6 ed wr lens mounted the k--5 doesn’t 
ask me to set the focal length of the lens when I start it up. Which reminds me 
that it does when I’m shooting in manual mode. What do I do in that case when 
the lens is a zoom lens?

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Re: OT - how a nobel prize winner opens a hard drive

2013-11-08 Thread Walt

Ha!


On 11/8/2013 11:06 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

I know that some PDMLers are very skillful in opening their lenses.
In this video:
http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Albert-Fert-The-Rugby-Player-Who-Got-the-Nobel-Prize-25570
or directly on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyV208Bqax0#t=457
a Nobel Prize winner, opens a hard-drive (go to 7:37, - the video
configuration doesn't allow to start it from the particular time,
by specifying that in the link).

Don't blame me if it doesn't work with your lens. :-)

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Re: Question about finding Missing folder in LR

2013-11-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

I know what the volume name is for a drive is.
My question was about LR. At least LR 3.4 does not care for the volume
name. My hdd had that from the beginning, but LR happily used the
drive letter (such as F:, G:) instead, - during the import file
procedure, and then those folders were linked to a specific letter.

Igor



Sat Nov 2 18:48:43 EDT 2013
Paul Sorenson wrote:

The volume command (vol [drive:]) will display the volume name.  Use the 
label command to set the volume name.

http://tinyurl.com/elaet

-p

On 11/1/2013 10:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsv/g/volume-label.htm

 I'm not a Windows user, but that page seems to give the basic info
 required.

 A volume label is a higher level file system construct than a drive
 letter and persists even if the drive letter changes. Once you set
 volume labels for your system, start LR. It will pick them up and
 display them in the Folders panel. Once a volume label is in use, LR
 uses that instead of a drive letter because file system calls to a
 volume label are translated by the OS to the underlying current
 hardware letter identifier.

 Godfrey

 On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote:



 Godfrey,

 How would I do that on Windows?
 Once I import the photos from the HDD, LR (at least up to ver. 3.4)
 sets that the photos are on a particular HDD, with a specific drive
 letter.
 I was not able to find how I can disentangle from that.

 Igor


 Fri Nov 1 15:44:20 EDT 2013
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 If you set a drive label (volume name for OS X users, but volume
 names/labels are only optional on Windows), Lr will use and prefer
 that,
 all the confusion of changing drive letters will disappear.

 Godfrey


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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
When using contemporary Pentax lenses, the camera can determine the focal 
length. You don't have to enter it.

Paul
On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 
 Just noticed that with my new 50-200/4-5.6 ed wr lens mounted the k--5 
 doesn’t ask me to set the focal length of the lens when I start it up. Which 
 reminds me that it does when I’m shooting in manual mode. What do I do in 
 that case when the lens is a zoom lens?
 
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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 8 November 2013 17:17, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Just noticed that with my new 50-200/4-5.6 ed wr lens mounted the k--5 
 doesn’t ask me to set the focal length of the lens when I start it up. Which 
 reminds me that it does when I’m shooting in manual mode. What do I do in 
 that case when the lens is a zoom lens?


It doesn't ask you to set it because it already knows - it's a lens
with all the necessary electrical contacts  communication,
irrespective of manual or automatic mode.

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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Attila Boros
The light and the texture detail on the rocks is nice. The car is also
nice but I'd rather not have it in a landscape photo, it obstructs
that big rock in the foreground which creates a sense of depth.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 seems my link was to the whole set rather than the specific picture.

 Here is the right link,  I hope:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/10743653485/

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 Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In
fact,  it was shot with the first Pentax DSLR that was available to the
masses.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/sets/72157635419000680/

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 When using contemporary Pentax lenses, the camera can determine the focal 
 length. You don't have to enter it.

Hmm. On my camera, with the camera is set to manual focus and an a 35-105/3.5 
mounted, I’m asked to “input focal length.” 

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Just noticed that with my new 50-200/4-5.6 ed wr lens mounted the k--5 
 doesn’t ask me to set the focal length of the lens when I start it up. Which 
 reminds me that it does when I’m shooting in manual mode. What do I do in 
 that case when the lens is a zoom lens?

When shooting with a manual lens that doesn't communicate its focal
length to the body, there is no way to tell the body that it's a zoom
lens. The body uses that setting for shake reduction. There wouldn't
be much point in telling the body It's a 70-210 zoom, because the
body still wouldn't have any way to tell which focal length the lens
was set to at the moment of exposure--the lens doesn't communicate
that information, which is the whole problem in the first place.

So the best you can do is tell it what focal length you'll be shooting
the lens at. (Or, pick some reasonably close average value, or disable
SR so the setting doesn't really matter.)

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce
The rub comes in using an older zoom - it will ask for a focal length,  but you 
can only enter one for the entire zoom range.   This is one of the minor 
frustrations with using an older lens.   For me,  I just turn off the shake 
reduction when using one of my old zooms.   Fortunately,  I only have one that 
I use regularly so the issue is not quite so big. 

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Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
When using contemporary Pentax lenses, the camera can determine the
focal length. You don't have to enter it.

Paul
On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 
 Just noticed that with my new 50-200/4-5.6 ed wr lens mounted the
k--5 doesn’t ask me to set the focal length of the lens when I start it
up. Which reminds me that it does when I’m shooting in manual mode.
What do I do in that case when the lens is a zoom lens?
 
 Thanks,

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Re: Camera bling

2013-11-08 Thread John

That's bogus.

If you really want one, I'll make it for you for only $10K.

On 11/7/2013 11:48 PM, Walt wrote:

Something along these lines, you mean?

http://is.gd/g0Uxkr

I sure hope Ricoh doesn't make a K-3 with that paint scheme. I may have
to take up grand larceny as a hobby.

-- Walt

On 11/7/2013 3:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I'm all for making expensive things look unappealing.

ann

On 11/7/2013 14:38, CollinB wrote:

So far I've only noticed three enhancements to camera appearance.

From some manufacturers, chrome shows it off.  Like a 500C/M. Gorgeous.

Then some add leather.  Like gator or snake.  We've all, or most of use,
have seen the featured LXen.
Finally there's the custom colors.  Pentax is taking some special
orders for
color options with some units right now.

What sort of bling would you add to a camera?
I'm voting for curb feelers?









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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted whenshooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
Again, it depends on the lens you are using and not from the camera focus 
setting.
A Pentax AF zoom lens will communicate focal length data to the camera. 
Older (K, M, A lenses) will not do that because they don't have ROM chips to 
store such info.

Dario


-Messaggio originale- 
From: Eric Weir

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:33 PM
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whenshooting manual?



On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

When using contemporary Pentax lenses, the camera can determine the focal 
length. You don't have to enter it.


Hmm. On my camera, with the camera is set to manual focus and an a 
35-105/3.5 mounted, I’m asked to “input focal length.”


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Re: More K-3 exploration

2013-11-08 Thread John

On 11/8/2013 6:12 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

...But I really really need an updated
computer to precess the K-3 files. . .

stan


It's always something.

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Featherstone

 On 8 Nov 2013, at 17:33, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 ...and an a 35-105/3.5 mounted, I’m asked to “input focal length.”

Oh! An A lens. I misunderstood. I'd enter the middle of the zoom range, or if 
I thought I'd be using less than the full range I'd put the middle of the range 
I expected to use. 
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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Looks right, now -- better than the Canada goose!

This looks like it was shot for a commercial for the vehicle
in it

ann

On 11/8/2013 11:54, Bruce wrote:

seems my link was to the whole set rather than the specific picture.

Here is the right link,  I hope:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/10743653485/

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Re: Clarity magazine free issue

2013-11-08 Thread John
Except that you have to give them an email address, and my experience 
with that is it means SPAM forever after.


On 11/7/2013 1:44 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

http://www.photographybb.com/500px/

Just got this in the mail, I think for free it's worth a try.

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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nice tones and colors in this scene! The car does kinda make it look like a 
marcom shot. 

Godfrey


 On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 seems my link was to the whole set rather than the specific picture. 
 
 Here is the right link,  I hope:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/10743653485/
 
 --
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 -- 
 Sent from Sony Tablet S
 
 Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In
 fact,  it was shot with the first Pentax DSLR that was available to the
 masses. 
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/sets/72157635419000680/
 
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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
Nice image, Bruce! Warm light is pleasing.
 
Jack


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Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 8:31 AM
Subject: Peso - Monument Valley

I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In fact,  it 
was shot with the first Pentax DSLR that was available to the masses. 

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/sets/72157635419000680/

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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
I was looking at a Honker shot when I opened your first link.
Really deep color tones, Bruce.
I'd have to have gotten the top of that right hunk of geology. Bothers me this 
way.
 
Jack


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Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Peso - Monument Valley

The light and the texture detail on the rocks is nice. The car is also
nice but I'd rather not have it in a landscape photo, it obstructs
that big rock in the foreground which creates a sense of depth.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 seems my link was to the whole set rather than the specific picture.

 Here is the right link,  I hope:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/10743653485/

 --
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 --
 Sent from Sony Tablet S

 Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In
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masses.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/sets/72157635419000680/

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Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Richard Womer
For me, printing at a lab is far easier and cheaper.

We have a cheap HP all-in-one that does text and simple graphics fine.

Rick

On Nov 8, 2013, at 03:43 , Bob W wrote:

 I got rid of my printers because I never used them and space is at a premium 
 in a small house like mine. If I need to print text I do it at work. If I 
 wanted to print photos regularly I'd investigate the long-term costs of 
 having to buy ink versus printing at a lab.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap as long as you 
 don't print anything.   I didn't see any mention of actually printing,  so 
 you could be pretty safe recommending just about anything. 
 
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 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Had a request from the boy.
 
 Verbatim:
 -
 Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept it (which you
 should(upon death if you dont))):
 need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and affordable
 ink.
 Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
 --
 
 Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - well
 plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the money on the
 inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. Affordable ink? Well, not
 the manufacturers ink then.
 
 I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks
 
 http://www.hornseaink.com/
 
 and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started using
 them about a year ago.
 
 Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for closer to
 £200 !
 
 Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)
 
 
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Re: OT - how a nobel prize winner opens a hard drive

2013-11-08 Thread Attila Boros
That was quick! Now put it back together in a perfectly working condition:)

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ha!



 On 11/8/2013 11:06 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 I know that some PDMLers are very skillful in opening their lenses.
 In this video:

 http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Albert-Fert-The-Rugby-Player-Who-Got-the-Nobel-Prize-25570
 or directly on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyV208Bqax0#t=457
 a Nobel Prize winner, opens a hard-drive (go to 7:37, - the video
 configuration doesn't allow to start it from the particular time,
 by specifying that in the link).

 Don't blame me if it doesn't work with your lens. :-)

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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 11/8/2013 13:23, Jack Davis wrote:

I was looking at a Honker shot when I opened your first link.
Really deep color tones, Bruce.
I'd have to have gotten the top of that right hunk of geology. Bothers me this 
way.

Jack


Jack, I wonder if Bruce scanned this from a slide in a mount and the 
tippy top of the outcrop on the right is in his original.


Bruce, I'd love to know just where you were - on the loop drive inside
the monument? Or outside of it?

I'm trying to work out the geology precisely.  LOve
Monument Valley.

Ann





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Subject: Re: Peso - Monument Valley

The light and the texture detail on the rocks is nice. The car is also
nice but I'd rather not have it in a landscape photo, it obstructs
that big rock in the foreground which creates a sense of depth.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

seems my link was to the whole set rather than the specific picture.

Here is the right link,  I hope:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/10743653485/

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Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In
fact,  it was shot with the first Pentax DSLR that was available to the
masses.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/sets/72157635419000680/

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Re: Peso - Monument Valley

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce
This was shot digital so no scanning involved.  We contracted a guide (the only 
non-native at the time) who had a 4WD van.   He had access to the entire park 
and could take us anywhere we wanted to go.   He took us to many places that 
are not part of the normal tours.   It was a fantastic trip and well worth the 
money we each paid. 

This particular shot caught my attention specifically because of the vehicle.   
I have lots and lots of shots without anything in the way,  but the location,  
lighting and position of this vehicle are what made the image interesting to 
me. As to specific location,  I can't really say - we went all over the place,  
but I do remember it was  a place that other tourists saw so part of the main 
tour,  I would think. 

The tip of the rock on the right being removed - from memory I believe that the 
sky was too washed out.   I'll have to go back and see if I cropped it that way 
or shot it that way. 

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Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


On 11/8/2013 13:23, Jack Davis wrote:
 I was looking at a Honker shot when I opened your first link.
 Really deep color tones, Bruce.
 I'd have to have gotten the top of that right hunk of geology.
Bothers me this way.

 Jack

Jack, I wonder if Bruce scanned this from a slide in a mount and the 
tippy top of the outcrop on the right is in his original.

Bruce, I'd love to know just where you were - on the loop drive inside
the monument? Or outside of it?

I'm trying to work out the geology precisely.  LOve
Monument Valley.

Ann




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 Cc:
 Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 9:29 AM
 Subject: Re: Peso - Monument Valley

 The light and the texture detail on the rocks is nice. The car is
also
 nice but I'd rather not have it in a landscape photo, it obstructs
 that big rock in the foreground which creates a sense of depth.

 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com
wrote:
 seems my link was to the whole set rather than the specific picture.

 Here is the right link,  I hope:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/10743653485/

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 --
 Sent from Sony Tablet S

 Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 I realize this was not shot with the latest and greatest Pentax. In
 fact,  it was shot with the first Pentax DSLR that was available to
the
 masses.


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Re: OT - how a nobel prize winner opens a hard drive

2013-11-08 Thread David Parsons
http://youtu.be/jyV208Bqax0?t=7m37s

Add =XmYYs to the end of the link and it'll take you right to that
time.  X is minutes, YY is seconds.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 I know that some PDMLers are very skillful in opening their lenses.
 In this video:
 http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Albert-Fert-The-Rugby-Player-Who-Got-the-Nobel-Prize-25570
 or directly on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyV208Bqax0#t=457
 a Nobel Prize winner, opens a hard-drive (go to 7:37, - the video
 configuration doesn't allow to start it from the particular time,
 by specifying that in the link).

 Don't blame me if it doesn't work with your lens. :-)

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Re: Question about finding Missing folder in LR

2013-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't know what the issue with your system is, and I'm not a Windows user so 
I have no way to find out. 

But LR has been using volume labels in preference to drive letters since v2 at 
least. So something is screwed up in how your system is configured, or was 
configured. 

Godfrey


 On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 
 I know what the volume name is for a drive is.
 My question was about LR. At least LR 3.4 does not care for the volume
 name. My hdd had that from the beginning, but LR happily used the
 drive letter (such as F:, G:) instead, - during the import file
 procedure, and then those folders were linked to a specific letter.
 
 Igor
 
 
 
 Sat Nov 2 18:48:43 EDT 2013
 Paul Sorenson wrote:
 
 The volume command (vol [drive:]) will display the volume name.  Use the 
 label command to set the volume name.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/elaet
 
 -p
 
 On 11/1/2013 10:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsv/g/volume-label.htm
 
 I'm not a Windows user, but that page seems to give the basic info
 required.
 
 A volume label is a higher level file system construct than a drive
 letter and persists even if the drive letter changes. Once you set
 volume labels for your system, start LR. It will pick them up and
 display them in the Folders panel. Once a volume label is in use, LR
 uses that instead of a drive letter because file system calls to a
 volume label are translated by the OS to the underlying current
 hardware letter identifier.
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote:
 
 
 
 Godfrey,
 
 How would I do that on Windows?
 Once I import the photos from the HDD, LR (at least up to ver. 3.4)
 sets that the photos are on a particular HDD, with a specific drive
 letter.
 I was not able to find how I can disentangle from that.
 
 Igor
 
 
 Fri Nov 1 15:44:20 EDT 2013
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 If you set a drive label (volume name for OS X users, but volume
 names/labels are only optional on Windows), Lr will use and prefer
 that,
 all the confusion of changing drive letters will disappear.
 
 Godfrey
 
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Re: OT - how a nobel prize winner opens a hard drive

2013-11-08 Thread Bob W
If you only have a hammer, every problem is a nail.

 On 8 Nov 2013, at 20:04, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://youtu.be/jyV208Bqax0?t=7m37s
 
 Add =XmYYs to the end of the link and it'll take you right to that
 time.  X is minutes, YY is seconds.
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 I know that some PDMLers are very skillful in opening their lenses.
 In this video:
 http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Albert-Fert-The-Rugby-Player-Who-Got-the-Nobel-Prize-25570
 or directly on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyV208Bqax0#t=457
 a Nobel Prize winner, opens a hard-drive (go to 7:37, - the video
 configuration doesn't allow to start it from the particular time,
 by specifying that in the link).
 
 Don't blame me if it doesn't work with your lens. :-)
 
 Igor
 
 

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Re: Clarity magazine free issue

2013-11-08 Thread Darren Addy
That's why you register sendmespam4e...@gmail.com for and use that
email address only for things like this.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Except that you have to give them an email address, and my experience with
 that is it means SPAM forever after.


 On 11/7/2013 1:44 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

 http://www.photographybb.com/500px/

 Just got this in the mail, I think for free it's worth a try.

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Re: Clarity magazine free issue

2013-11-08 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting John johnsess...@yahoo.com:

Except that you have to give them an email address, and my  
experience with that is it means SPAM forever after.



The magazine is published by PhotographyBB - they used to publish the  
free mag by the same name.  'Clarity' is their bid to try to make some  
money from their efforts.


If you give them your email address, you will get the occasional  
message but you can always unsubscribe.


'Clarity' looks quite professionally produced but I already have more  
e-mag subscriptions than I need so I doubt I'll be subscribing.



Cheers

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http://www.photographybb.com/500px/

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Bulent Celasun
Since when did having cash have any bearing on buying camera equipment?
MARK!

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Zos Xavius
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Since when did having cash have any bearing on buying camera equipment?


When using cash is your only option. Unless you know a way to get
equipment for free. If so, I'd love to know. :)

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Re: OT - how a nobel prize winner opens a hard drive

2013-11-08 Thread steve harley

on 2013-11-08 13:04 David Parsons wrote

http://youtu.be/jyV208Bqax0?t=7m37s

Add =XmYYs to the end of the link and it'll take you right to that
time.  X is minutes, YY is seconds.


Igor's youtube link went straight t0 7:37 for me

good interview; amusing to see an old magnetic disk pack mistakenly labeled as 
optical


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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Bill

On 08/11/2013 11:11 AM, Eric Weir wrote:


Thanks to all who responded on this thread. Other matters needing my 
attention—and the sheer number of responses—caused me to leave the discussion 
alone for a while. But I really do appreciate all the input, the diversity of 
it included. I consider myself a bit more educated than I was before, which 
means I have to decide for myself. But now I some idea of the things that need 
to be taken into consideration.

FWIW, I exchanged the 67mm haze filter for two 49mm clear coated filters and 
will use them with a hood. Perhaps at some point I will experience a problem 
with flaring, at which point I’ll reconsider.



Take a picture with the filter in place. Remove the filter and take 
another picture. If you use a lens hood, it should be mounted for both 
pictures. Compare the pictures. This is one of those things where pixel 
level investigation is actually useful. If you see no, or negligible 
difference, then keep on with the filter. If it is causing image 
degradation, decide when to use it, or more to the point, when not to 
use it.


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Re: Question about finding Missing folder in LR

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Sorenson
I didn't mean to insult you, Igor, but the name shown (if there is one) 
by Windows Explorer is not necessarily a volume name.  For example, if I 
look at Windows Explorer for my main drive it lays Local Disk (C:), 
which might infer that it's the volume name.  However if I run vol C: 
from the command line it returns Volume in drive C has no label since 
I have not assigned a label to it.  i.e. Drive C: has no volume name.


-p

On 11/8/2013 11:21 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


I know what the volume name is for a drive is.
My question was about LR. At least LR 3.4 does not care for the volume
name. My hdd had that from the beginning, but LR happily used the
drive letter (such as F:, G:) instead, - during the import file
procedure, and then those folders were linked to a specific letter.

Igor



Sat Nov 2 18:48:43 EDT 2013
Paul Sorenson wrote:

The volume command (vol [drive:]) will display the volume name.  Use the
label command to set the volume name.

http://tinyurl.com/elaet

-p

On 11/1/2013 10:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsv/g/volume-label.htm

I'm not a Windows user, but that page seems to give the basic info
required.

A volume label is a higher level file system construct than a drive
letter and persists even if the drive letter changes. Once you set
volume labels for your system, start LR. It will pick them up and
display them in the Folders panel. Once a volume label is in use, LR
uses that instead of a drive letter because file system calls to a
volume label are translated by the OS to the underlying current
hardware letter identifier.

Godfrey


On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote:



Godfrey,

How would I do that on Windows?
Once I import the photos from the HDD, LR (at least up to ver. 3.4)
sets that the photos are on a particular HDD, with a specific drive
letter.
I was not able to find how I can disentangle from that.

Igor


Fri Nov 1 15:44:20 EDT 2013
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


If you set a drive label (volume name for OS X users, but volume
names/labels are only optional on Windows), Lr will use and prefer
that,
all the confusion of changing drive letters will disappear.

Godfrey






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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Walt

On 11/8/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

Since when did having cash have any bearing on buying camera equipment?


When using cash is your only option. Unless you know a way to get
equipment for free. If so, I'd love to know. :)


It fell off a truck.

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Walt

On 11/8/2013 11:33 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Just noticed that with my new 50-200/4-5.6 ed wr lens mounted the k--5 doesn’t 
ask me to set the focal length of the lens when I start it up. Which reminds me 
that it does when I’m shooting in manual mode. What do I do in that case when 
the lens is a zoom lens?

When shooting with a manual lens that doesn't communicate its focal
length to the body, there is no way to tell the body that it's a zoom
lens. The body uses that setting for shake reduction. There wouldn't
be much point in telling the body It's a 70-210 zoom, because the
body still wouldn't have any way to tell which focal length the lens
was set to at the moment of exposure--the lens doesn't communicate
that information, which is the whole problem in the first place.

So the best you can do is tell it what focal length you'll be shooting
the lens at. (Or, pick some reasonably close average value, or disable
SR so the setting doesn't really matter.)

Well, I'll be damned. I never knew that had anything to do with the SR. 
I always just entered the near-end of the focal range so I'd have some 
clue which lens I used if I ever needed to refer to the EXIF later on.


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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Take a picture with the filter in place. Remove the filter and take another 
 picture. If you use a lens hood, it should be mounted for both pictures. 
 Compare the pictures. This is one of those things where pixel level 
 investigation is actually useful. If you see no, or negligible difference, 
 then keep on with the filter. If it is causing image degradation, decide when 
 to use it, or more to the point, when not to use it.

Thanks, Bill. I'll do it.

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Darren Addy
When using cash is your only option. Unless you know a way to get
equipment for free. If so, I'd love to know. :)

Seriously: watch this for the answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE8b02EdZvw

I'm starting a new game this month. I bought a set of tires for my
work car and got a $60 rebate. Rather than just spend that, I'm going
to use it as the start of a new business. I'm going to buy an
undervalued item and sell it for a profit. Rinse and repeat. My goal
is to snowball that until I can take some of the money out to buy a
nice Mak 2 Star General pellet grill/smoker (about $2300). When I
do, it will be purchased with free money. But it will have been made
the old-fashioned way: I earned it. Sort of. :) That's capitalism in
a nutshell. I think I can make that goal by next summer.

You can do the same. You just need to identify a small amount of seed
money to get you started, and then not rob that business for any
other thing until you meet your objective.

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RE: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius
 Sent: 08 November 2013 21:37
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1  more
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Bruce 
 bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
  Since when did having cash have any bearing on buying 
 camera equipment?
 
 
 When using cash is your only option. Unless you know a way to 
 get equipment for free. If so, I'd love to know. :)
 

Larceny is your friend.

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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Be sure to shoot something with specular highlights in frame or backlit against 
a bright sky. That will test for flare.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Take a picture with the filter in place. Remove the filter and take another 
 picture. If you use a lens hood, it should be mounted for both pictures. 
 Compare the pictures. This is one of those things where pixel level 
 investigation is actually useful. If you see no, or negligible difference, 
 then keep on with the filter. If it is causing image degradation, decide 
 when to use it, or more to the point, when not to use it.
 
 Thanks, Bill. I'll do it.
 
 Eric
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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Zos Xavius
BOB!

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 Subject: Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1  more

 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Bruce
 bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
  Since when did having cash have any bearing on buying
 camera equipment?
 

 When using cash is your only option. Unless you know a way to
 get equipment for free. If so, I'd love to know. :)


 Larceny is your friend.

 B


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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Mark C


Hi Paul - Yep, all handheld. I *was* seated in the passenger side front 
seat of my car, so I had extra support. I was not able to rest the lens 
on the car door, given where the birds were, so I was basically just 
sitting there shooting. An FA 400 f4.6 would be sweet... The Tokina lens 
seems to hold it's own, especially for a (relatively) inexpensive piece.


Mark

On 11/8/2013 9:05 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

All hand held, Mark? Looking forward to getting out with my 60-250, although 
it's tough to get close enough for shots of small birds. Maybe I can find 
another egret or heron. Would love to have David's FA 400. My A 400/5.6 is okay 
but I'd like to take advantage of the K-3's autofocus capability.

Paul
On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:


Thanks! I was about 15 feet from the birds, which is close to the lens's minimum focusing 
distance. The flash does not seem to bother them. There were times when the 
whi! clank! of the cam based AF did send them flying. AF on the 400mm 
Tokina tends to be pretty load and it makes a noticeable clank when it hits the end stop.

Mark

On 11/8/2013 5:28 AM, Attila Boros wrote:

Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you get?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

That's very impressive.

B


On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

But in a *good* way:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Dave. I wish I could try some insect shots with the K-3, but 
last night's snow and freeze has probably done them in for this year.


On 11/8/2013 10:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

finaly real life test. Bird shots look great

Dave

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But in a *good* way:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Mark C

Thanks, Ken. The K-3 is certainly living up to my expectations!

On 11/8/2013 11:11 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Great examples Mark! I feel I'm being drawn closer to purchase.

-Original Message-

From: Alan C c...@lantic.net
Subject: Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

Looks like you are setting new standards. Greta images  this is only the
start.

Alan C


On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

But in a *good* way:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread steve harley

on 2013-11-08 15:28 Darren Addy wrote

My goal
is to snowball that until I can take some of the money out to buy a
nice Mak 2 Star General pellet grill/smoker (about $2300). When I
do, it will be purchased with free money.


free money or not, the opportunity cost will make for some extremely 
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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread steve harley

on 2013-11-08 15:34 Bob W wrote

Larceny is your friend.


more like your frenemy


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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread steve harley

on 2013-11-08 15:36 Paul Stenquist wrote

Be sure to shoot something with specular highlights in frame or backlit against 
a bright sky. That will test for flare.


i would test in both difficult and easy situations to learn how these make 
a difference; i will remove a filter in special situations, but i leave it on 
99% of the time


i like B+W MRC filters because they are really easy to clean, and i do find 
spatter marks on them sometimes — both urban and natural environments can put 
tiny droplets into the air; i tried Marumi — good optical coatings for less 
money — but they are comparatively hard to clean



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Photoshop CS6 Perpetual License Updates Now Available

2013-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
For those using Photoshop CS6, I received a notification yesterday evening that 
there's a new update available for you:

http://blogs.adobe.com/photoshopdotcom/2013/11/photoshop-cs6-13-0-5mac-13-0-1-2win-perpetual-license-updates-now-available.html

or 

http://tinyurl.com/knj3olm

enjoy!

Godfrey

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

 
 When shooting with a manual lens that doesn't communicate its focal
 length to the body, there is no way to tell the body that it's a zoom
 lens. The body uses that setting for shake reduction. There wouldn't
 be much point in telling the body It's a 70-210 zoom, because the
 body still wouldn't have any way to tell which focal length the lens
 was set to at the moment of exposure--the lens doesn't communicate
 that information, which is the whole problem in the first place.
 
 So the best you can do is tell it what focal length you'll be shooting
 the lens at. (Or, pick some reasonably close average value, or disable
 SR so the setting doesn't really matter.)

Thanks for the explanation, Matthew. 

 When I do what you suggest will the camera be performing shake reduction?

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 I just turn off the shake reduction when using one of my old zooms.

What is the effect/advantage of doing that? What’s the effect of not doing that?

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Oh! An A lens. I misunderstood. I'd enter the middle of the zoom range, or 
 if I thought I'd be using less than the full range I'd put the middle of the 
 range I expected to use. 

Thanks, Eric. I’ve been doing that, or, as another responded described, setting 
it at the low end of the zoom’s range.

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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 8, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I just turn off the shake reduction when using one of my old zooms.
 
 What is the effect/advantage of doing that? What’s the effect of not doing 
 that?

No image stabilization means no inappropriately applied image stabilization. 
In other words, the IS for a 35mm lens requires different parameters compared 
to the IS for a 100mm lens, so it's better to have none than to have the wrong 
parameters set. 

G
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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 Be sure to shoot something with specular highlights in frame or backlit 
 against a bright sky. That will test for flare.

Thanks, Paul. I’ll do that, too.

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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:14 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 i like B+W MRC filters because they are really easy to clean

After seeing several references to B+W fllters I decided to check them out. In 
the process I came across this:

Schneider introduces new iPro Lens System for iPhone 5/4S/4 
http://www.iprolens.com/index.php

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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 06:30:22PM -0500, Eric Weir wrote:
 
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  Be sure to shoot something with specular highlights in frame or backlit 
  against a bright sky. That will test for flare.
 
 Thanks, Paul. I’ll do that, too.

And post the results of your tests.

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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 After seeing several references to B+W fllters I decided to check them out. 
 In the process I came across this:
 
   Schneider introduces new iPro Lens System for iPhone 5/4S/4 
 http://www.iprolens.com/index.php 

I guess this is not news. Apparently it's been around for a while. Latecomer.

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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Bob W
On 8 Nov 2013, at 22:59, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 on 2013-11-08 15:28 Darren Addy wrote
 My goal
 is to snowball that until I can take some of the money out to buy a
 nice Mak 2 Star General pellet grill/smoker (about $2300). When I
 do, it will be purchased with free money.
 
 free money or not, the opportunity cost will make for some extremely 
 expensive meat
 

I thought it was for grilling and smoking owl pellets, but I didn't want to say 
anything.

B
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Re: FSF: Pentax O-GPS1 more

2013-11-08 Thread Stan Halpin

Darren, what are the income and sales tax rates in your corner of the world? 

I loosely followed the strategy you've outlined back in the early days of eBay. 
In my case I bought and sold lenses and cameras. Any loss I considered as the 
cost of my having rented the item for whatever period of time, amortized over 
the number of images I had shot with said equipment. Any profit went toward an 
equipment upgrade.  I seriously considered buying/selling for the income rather 
than for my own use, but then I would have needed to get a vendor-tax ID from 
the state, keep proper records for the State and Federal income taxes, etc. 
More time investment and paperwork than could be justified by the likely income.

Good luck with it!

stan

On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 When using cash is your only option. Unless you know a way to get
 equipment for free. If so, I'd love to know. :)
 
 Seriously: watch this for the answer: 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE8b02EdZvw
 
 I'm starting a new game this month. I bought a set of tires for my
 work car and got a $60 rebate. Rather than just spend that, I'm going
 to use it as the start of a new business. I'm going to buy an
 undervalued item and sell it for a profit. Rinse and repeat. My goal
 is to snowball that until I can take some of the money out to buy a
 nice Mak 2 Star General pellet grill/smoker (about $2300). When I
 do, it will be purchased with free money. But it will have been made
 the old-fashioned way: I earned it. Sort of. :) That's capitalism in
 a nutshell. I think I can make that goal by next summer.
 
 You can do the same. You just need to identify a small amount of seed
 money to get you started, and then not rob that business for any
 other thing until you meet your objective.
 
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Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread kwaller
Regardless of the ink cost (I get my Epson ink at a discount from Atlex.com) 
I prefer printing my own due to the control I have. I'd never use any of the 
Walmarts/Costcos for my printing source and there just aren't any really 
good local shops that I'm aware of.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

Subject: Re: Printer Recommendation


I got rid of my printers because I never used them and space is at a 
premium in a small house like mine. If I need to print text I do it at 
work. If I wanted to print photos regularly I'd investigate the long-term 
costs of having to buy ink versus printing at a lab.


B


On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap as long as you 
don't print anything.   I didn't see any mention of actually printing, 
so you could be pretty safe recommending just about anything.


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Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

Had a request from the boy.

Verbatim:
-
Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept it (which you
should(upon death if you dont))):
need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and affordable
ink.
Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
--

Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - well
plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the money on the
inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. Affordable ink? Well, not
the manufacturers ink then.

I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks

http://www.hornseaink.com/

and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started using
them about a year ago.

Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for closer to
£200 !

Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)



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Re: How do you tell a K-5 you've got a zoom lens mounted when shooting manual?

2013-11-08 Thread Bruce
Without doing extensive testing,  I am assuming that if you are using a 
reasonable zoom range then the SR will over or under compensate when at a 
different focal length than you input at the beginning.   For me,  rather than 
dealing with that problem,  which could cause the photo to be less sharp,  I 
just turn SR off.  It is one of the things you lose when using older equipment. 
  But those older lenses never had shake reduction before so I don't see it as 
a big loss. 

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Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 I just turn off the shake reduction when using one of my old zooms.

What is the effect/advantage of doing that? What’s the effect of not
doing that?

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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread kwaller
Paul if you'd like to try out my 600, we should plan on a meet up. While not 
a handhold lens it is quite the glass for close up birding.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!


All hand held, Mark? Looking forward to getting out with my 60-250, 
although it's tough to get close enough for shots of small birds. Maybe I 
can find another egret or heron. Would love to have David's FA 400. My A 
400/5.6 is okay but I'd like to take advantage of the K-3's autofocus 
capability.


Paul
On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

Thanks! I was about 15 feet from the birds, which is close to the lens's 
minimum focusing distance. The flash does not seem to bother them. There 
were times when the whi! clank! of the cam based AF did send them 
flying. AF on the 400mm Tokina tends to be pretty load and it makes a 
noticeable clank when it hits the end stop.


Mark

On 11/8/2013 5:28 AM, Attila Boros wrote:
Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you 
get?


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

That's very impressive.

B


On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

But in a *good* way:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10

- Mark



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Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
That would be special. 

Paul via phone

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:33 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Paul if you'd like to try out my 600, we should plan on a meet up. While not 
 a handhold lens it is quite the glass for close up birding.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: K3... This camera is for the birds!!!
 
 
 All hand held, Mark? Looking forward to getting out with my 60-250, although 
 it's tough to get close enough for shots of small birds. Maybe I can find 
 another egret or heron. Would love to have David's FA 400. My A 400/5.6 is 
 okay but I'd like to take advantage of the K-3's autofocus capability.
 
 Paul
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Thanks! I was about 15 feet from the birds, which is close to the lens's 
 minimum focusing distance. The flash does not seem to bother them. There 
 were times when the whi! clank! of the cam based AF did send them 
 flying. AF on the 400mm Tokina tends to be pretty load and it makes a 
 noticeable clank when it hits the end stop.
 
 Mark
 
 On 11/8/2013 5:28 AM, Attila Boros wrote:
 Very nice results! Aren't the birds scared by flash? How close could you 
 get?
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's very impressive.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 00:40, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 
 But in a *good* way:
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/title-10
 
 - Mark
 
 
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Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ditto.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:30 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Regardless of the ink cost (I get my Epson ink at a discount from Atlex.com) 
 I prefer printing my own due to the control I have. I'd never use any of the 
 Walmarts/Costcos for my printing source and there just aren't any really good 
 local shops that I'm aware of.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: Re: Printer Recommendation
 
 
 I got rid of my printers because I never used them and space is at a premium 
 in a small house like mine. If I need to print text I do it at work. If I 
 wanted to print photos regularly I'd investigate the long-term costs of 
 having to buy ink versus printing at a lab.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap as long as you 
 don't print anything.   I didn't see any mention of actually printing, so 
 you could be pretty safe recommending just about anything.
 
 --
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 Sent from Sony Tablet S
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Had a request from the boy.
 
 Verbatim:
 -
 Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept it (which you
 should(upon death if you dont))):
 need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and affordable
 ink.
 Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
 --
 
 Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - well
 plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the money on the
 inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. Affordable ink? Well, not
 the manufacturers ink then.
 
 I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks
 
 http://www.hornseaink.com/
 
 and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started using
 them about a year ago.
 
 Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for closer to
 £200 !
 
 Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)
 
 
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Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Bob W
Well, the theory is that a colour-managed workflow on both sides gives you that 
control. 

B

 On 9 Nov 2013, at 00:30, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Regardless of the ink cost (I get my Epson ink at a discount from Atlex.com) 
 I prefer printing my own due to the control I have. I'd never use any of the 
 Walmarts/Costcos for my printing source and there just aren't any really good 
 local shops that I'm aware of.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: Re: Printer Recommendation
 
 
 I got rid of my printers because I never used them and space is at a premium 
 in a small house like mine. If I need to print text I do it at work. If I 
 wanted to print photos regularly I'd investigate the long-term costs of 
 having to buy ink versus printing at a lab.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap as long as you 
 don't print anything.   I didn't see any mention of actually printing, so 
 you could be pretty safe recommending just about anything.
 
 --
 Bruce
 -- 
 Sent from Sony Tablet S
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Had a request from the boy.
 
 Verbatim:
 -
 Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept it (which you
 should(upon death if you dont))):
 need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and affordable
 ink.
 Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
 --
 
 Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - well
 plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the money on the
 inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. Affordable ink? Well, not
 the manufacturers ink then.
 
 I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks
 
 http://www.hornseaink.com/
 
 and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started using
 them about a year ago.
 
 Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for closer to
 £200 !
 
 Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)
 
 

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Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's theoretically possible, but very few labs are capable of accurate 
profile matching. And doing it yourself allows for more fine tuning. Reflective 
art is never an exact match of an electronic display image.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 Well, the theory is that a colour-managed workflow on both sides gives you 
 that control. 
 
 B
 
 On 9 Nov 2013, at 00:30, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Regardless of the ink cost (I get my Epson ink at a discount from Atlex.com) 
 I prefer printing my own due to the control I have. I'd never use any of the 
 Walmarts/Costcos for my printing source and there just aren't any really 
 good local shops that I'm aware of.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: Re: Printer Recommendation
 
 
 I got rid of my printers because I never used them and space is at a 
 premium in a small house like mine. If I need to print text I do it at 
 work. If I wanted to print photos regularly I'd investigate the long-term 
 costs of having to buy ink versus printing at a lab.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap as long as you 
 don't print anything.   I didn't see any mention of actually printing, so 
 you could be pretty safe recommending just about anything.
 
 --
 Bruce
 -- 
 Sent from Sony Tablet S
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Had a request from the boy.
 
 Verbatim:
 -
 Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept it (which you
 should(upon death if you dont))):
 need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and affordable
 ink.
 Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
 --
 
 Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - well
 plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the money on the
 inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. Affordable ink? Well, not
 the manufacturers ink then.
 
 I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks
 
 http://www.hornseaink.com/
 
 and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started using
 them about a year ago.
 
 Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for closer to
 £200 !
 
 Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)
 
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RE: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Bob W
That is so, and that is what soft-proofing is for, but it depends on your
eye. My eyes are colour-blind, so I do my best not to rely on them. Luckily
I live in London, where there are labs who can match profiles accurately (as
far as I can tell). 

B 


 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
 
 That's theoretically possible, but very few labs are capable 
 of accurate profile matching. And doing it yourself allows 
 for more fine tuning. Reflective art is never an exact match 
 of an electronic display image.
 
 Paul via phone
 
  On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  
  Well, the theory is that a colour-managed workflow on both 
 sides gives you that control. 
  
  B
  
  On 9 Nov 2013, at 00:30, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
  
  Regardless of the ink cost (I get my Epson ink at a 
 discount from Atlex.com) I prefer printing my own due to the 
 control I have. I'd never use any of the Walmarts/Costcos for 
 my printing source and there just aren't any really good 
 local shops that I'm aware of.
  
  Kenneth Waller
  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
  
  - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
  Subject: Re: Printer Recommendation
  
  
  I got rid of my printers because I never used them and 
 space is at a premium in a small house like mine. If I need 
 to print text I do it at work. If I wanted to print photos 
 regularly I'd investigate the long-term costs of having to 
 buy ink versus printing at a lab.
  
  B
  
  On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
  
  I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap 
 as long as you don't print anything.   I didn't see any 
 mention of actually printing, so you could be pretty safe 
 recommending just about anything.
  
  --
  Bruce
  --
  Sent from Sony Tablet S
  
  Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
  Had a request from the boy.
  
  Verbatim:
  -
  Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept 
 it (which 
  you should(upon death if you dont))):
  need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and 
  affordable ink.
  Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
  --
  
  Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - 
  well plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the 
  money on the inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. 
  Affordable ink? Well, not the manufacturers ink then.
  
  I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks
  
  http://www.hornseaink.com/
  
  and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started 
  using them about a year ago.
  
  Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for 
  closer to £200 !
  
  Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)
  
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Re: Printer Recommendation

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
More important, on a personal level, is printings role as a key part of the 
process. I've been printing my own work for more than 50 years. I find it very 
fulfilling: It's the culmination, the conclusion, the final step in creating 
the image.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 That is so, and that is what soft-proofing is for, but it depends on your
 eye. My eyes are colour-blind, so I do my best not to rely on them. Luckily
 I live in London, where there are labs who can match profiles accurately (as
 far as I can tell). 
 
 B 
 
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
 
 That's theoretically possible, but very few labs are capable 
 of accurate profile matching. And doing it yourself allows 
 for more fine tuning. Reflective art is never an exact match 
 of an electronic display image.
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 Well, the theory is that a colour-managed workflow on both
 sides gives you that control. 
 
 B
 
 On 9 Nov 2013, at 00:30, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Regardless of the ink cost (I get my Epson ink at a
 discount from Atlex.com) I prefer printing my own due to the 
 control I have. I'd never use any of the Walmarts/Costcos for 
 my printing source and there just aren't any really good 
 local shops that I'm aware of.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: Re: Printer Recommendation
 
 
 I got rid of my printers because I never used them and
 space is at a premium in a small house like mine. If I need 
 to print text I do it at work. If I wanted to print photos 
 regularly I'd investigate the long-term costs of having to 
 buy ink versus printing at a lab.
 
 B
 
 On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 
 I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap
 as long as you don't print anything.   I didn't see any 
 mention of actually printing, so you could be pretty safe 
 recommending just about anything.
 
 --
 Bruce
 --
 Sent from Sony Tablet S
 
 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Had a request from the boy.
 
 Verbatim:
 -
 Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept
 it (which 
 you should(upon death if you dont))):
 need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and 
 affordable ink.
 Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply.
 --
 
 Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - 
 well plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the 
 money on the inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. 
 Affordable ink? Well, not the manufacturers ink then.
 
 I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks
 
 http://www.hornseaink.com/
 
 and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started 
 using them about a year ago.
 
 Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for 
 closer to £200 !
 
 Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-)
 
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Re: Camera bling

2013-11-08 Thread Walt

On spec?


On 11/8/2013 11:47 AM, John wrote:

That's bogus.

If you really want one, I'll make it for you for only $10K.

On 11/7/2013 11:48 PM, Walt wrote:

Something along these lines, you mean?

http://is.gd/g0Uxkr

I sure hope Ricoh doesn't make a K-3 with that paint scheme. I may have
to take up grand larceny as a hobby.

-- Walt

On 11/7/2013 3:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I'm all for making expensive things look unappealing.

ann

On 11/7/2013 14:38, CollinB wrote:

So far I've only noticed three enhancements to camera appearance.
From some manufacturers, chrome shows it off.  Like a 500C/M. 
Gorgeous.
Then some add leather.  Like gator or snake.  We've all, or most of 
use,

have seen the featured LXen.
Finally there's the custom colors.  Pentax is taking some special
orders for
color options with some units right now.

What sort of bling would you add to a camera?
I'm voting for curb feelers?












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Re: Filters?

2013-11-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

Be sure to shoot something with specular highlights in frame or backlit 
against a bright sky. That will test for flare.

You also want to shoot something without specular highlights but with
a strong light source just out of frame to test for veiling flare.
It's less obvious but often more damaging than classic flare.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-01-12.shtml
(Another Mike Johnston column from L-L back in the days when it was a
regular must-read.)

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No Time for K-3

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
The good news is that my battery grip arrived today, so the K-3 now feels right 
in my hand. The bad news is that I still haven't had time to shoot. Didn't get 
out of the office until after sundown. But with fading light I stepped out on 
the deck and shot some perennial grasses in my garden. Had to crank the ISO up 
to 1600 to get f 6.3 @ 1/20th with the K-3 and the DA* 50-135 at 70 mm. The 
light was pretty much gone. But I was very impressed with the detail in the 
grasses. The feather grass in the foreground, which became the focal point, is 
finely detailed. And the noise is minimal. Really looking forward to  getting 
out tomorrow and looking for some big birdies or other worthy subjects. 
Unfortunately, I have to go buy a car first. My lease expires this week, and I 
can't be without transportation. Busy times.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17590781size=lg

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FS Friday - Mucho Booty

2013-11-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
No, I'm not dumping all my gear to buy a K-3. Couldn't afford one until the 
price drops below $900, plus the grip. But I do have bills to pay before bad 
things happen. I was going to use FleaBay, but they burned me on a sale I made 
a few weeks ago, so I told them Never Again!. I'll stick by that, too. Wanted 
to use PF, but cannot wrap my brain around writing all the blather that makes a 
good description for each item. PDML users already know what I'm listing, and 
what it's worth - well, a little below what it's worth, and way below what I 
dream getting for them. Here goes…

Photos available off list if asked. All prices include shipping in USA. 
Outside, you pay shipping.

K-10 body with DBG-2 grip  —  entire kit plus 3 extra batteries, charger, CDs, 
manual, cables, K-20D box.
Not used much, replaced it with 2ea K20s before it got old. Shutter at 
4,925.$230  

K-7  body  —  most of kit, 1 batt, charger, 1 SD card, shutter at 12,182.  
Probably original box too!   $325

PZ-1p body — bargain cosmetically w/ scratches on top lcd, but works fine. 
Expired, but still strong.

SMC-Pentax F 50mm 1.7 AF, lens clear, diaphragm snappy. Nice lens.  
$167

SMC-Pentax FA 28-105mm ƒ4~5.6, cosmetically good, switch repaired by Pentax 
superglued  :(   $  95

SMC-Pentax FA 28~70mm ƒ4 AL, cosmetically good, clean, in original box  
  $  90

SMC-Pentax DA 18~250mm ƒ3.5~6.3 ED AL [AF]  good condition, in original box 
 $310

SMC-Pentax DA 16~45mm ƒ4.0 ED AL like new, in original box with all stuff.  
   $275


Sekonic L-358 Light Meter with or without the 5° spot attachment, like new, new 
used except to check it out.   $185 without, $220 with. 
Original box, I think the wire to the lighting system goes with, if it 
fits, it will be included. Manual when I find it.

More will be available next week

My K-5 will stay with me, as it only has a shutter count of 6898 as of a week 
ago when I photographed a few camera goodies. 
Been using the 'Q' more on these cloudy days as a just in case camera 
to have with me at all times.



  Joseph McAllister
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Re: SMC PENTAX f2.8 300mm FOR SALE

2013-11-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
He wasn't a banker, was he?  :)


On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:40 , Alan C wrote:

 This lens is up for sale in South Africa. Perhaps someone is interested?
 
 http://www.junkmail.co.za/leisure/film-cameras/north-west/hartbeespoort/pentax-smc-2-8-300mm-32148205
 
 
 Alan 


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PESO: RIP Bentley

2013-11-08 Thread Walt
Here's a shot of the recently-departed Bentley, the Great Pyrenees of a 
friend of mine. I went back through my collection and found it after I'd 
heard he'd died and thought my friend might like to have a copy, so I 
shared it with him on Facebook.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10752903145/#large
K-x, A 50/1.7, f/3.5, ISO 200, 1/125

He was by all accounts a very cool dog.

-- Walt

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PESO - Moosehead lake - 1968

2013-11-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Before I owned a Pentax - scanned from a cibachrome print of a 
Kodachrome slide with my then husband's camera.  Thought about

listing the ciba print on ebay  since I was having success with old
crappy polaroids - the print is scratched.  Not too many ciba's on
ebay.

Just felt like sharing the view.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Scans-from-Chromes/17511519_5d6nsk/1/2893569168_Hdrbqg6/Large

ann

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Re: PESO - Moosehead lake - 1968

2013-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Quite lovely, Ann!

Godfrey - godfreydigio...@me.com

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Just felt like sharing the view.
 
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Scans-from-Chromes/17511519_5d6nsk/1/2893569168_Hdrbqg6/Large

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Re: PESO: RIP Bentley

2013-11-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Cool photo, too... he looks very sad in that photo though, as if he
had lost a friend as opposed to the other way around.

ann

On 11/9/2013 00:11, Walt wrote:

Here's a shot of the recently-departed Bentley, the Great Pyrenees of a
friend of mine. I went back through my collection and found it after I'd
heard he'd died and thought my friend might like to have a copy, so I
shared it with him on Facebook.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10752903145/#large
K-x, A 50/1.7, f/3.5, ISO 200, 1/125

He was by all accounts a very cool dog.

-- Walt



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