GESO January faves
Here are my best shots from January: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639425946344/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Enchilasagna
Tonight's culinary experiment: enchilasagna http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247370595/ It's even vegetarian, but misses out on being vegan by about five pounds of cheese. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Wilder ranch reprocessed
Candice seems to have taken objection to my post processing skills and asked for the raw files of a couple of my Wilder Ranch sunset photos. As you can see from these, she's a bit more adept with photoshop than I (am with lightroom). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247932384/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247904144/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Today's Report
Before I noticed the degree symbols I thought 'number of drownings? Average age of lifeguards?' On 1 Feb 2014, at 07:55, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: This is the Blackboard they keep poolside at our condo. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17670093 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Sunset Selfie
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667263 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed
Photoshop is a better tool. Paul via phone On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Candice seems to have taken objection to my post processing skills and asked for the raw files of a couple of my Wilder Ranch sunset photos. As you can see from these, she's a bit more adept with photoshop than I (am with lightroom). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247932384/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247904144/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT question about a photoshop elements thingy
I've drifted into lurk mode - had out-of-towner visiting and other things going on - but hoping there is a plug-in or app or procedure something that will take a line of text while in photoshop elements and place it within a circle around the circumfrance evenly. The text style thing variances don't seem to behave for me to do this.. Think the rim of the older Starbucks logo or the Chipolte signs and a few others I've seen. I've got elements 5.0 thanks much! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunset Selfie
Dan, You're looking the wrong way! Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667263 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy 100th birthday, Leica!
HCB? Selfie? Interesting article. Thanks for posting... Cheers, frank Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jan/31/leica-100-birthday-photographers-messages “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt
Thanks Jack! Yeah, Matt didn't exactly pose in the most photogenic spot, did he. But hey, that's the environment he was in, what can I say? Glad you enjoyed. Cheers, frank Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Those racing pits are mess. HA! Matt looks as though he feels clever and confident. Like it, Frank. Jack - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:21 AM Subject: PESO - Fat Boy Matt We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face on: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1 He didn't win. ;-) But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Beach Balls
Yeah, cold dumplings. ;-) Thanks to you, Jack and Dan for commenting. I've gotten down to the Lake more times this winter than in the past. Fascinating what goes on down there! Cheers, frank David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. They look like dumplings. Cheers, Dave On Jan 30, 2014, at 6:31 pm, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty cool the different ways ice forms depending on wind, temperature, waves. These were in a quiet cove (you can see biggish waves way off in the distance). They were about the size of small bowling balls: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/01/beach-balls.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography
His House In The Woods -project got some good press here in Scandinavia about a year ago. Interesting how he combines decay of man-made structures and animal photography. I love his image aestethics. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bruce Walker Dato: 31. januar 2014 01:53 Til: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography This Finnish photographer's stuff is really remarkable ... http://www.kafa.fi/pages/gallery1.php http://www.kafa.fi/pages/the-house-in-the-woods.php -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt
An intriguing portrait, Frank. I usually prefer unbusy, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on and your composition is good -- I like it. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:21 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face on: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1 He didn't win. ;-) But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunset Selfie
Fun shot, Dan. Very good! On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667263 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT question about a photoshop elements thingy
I don't think that's available in PSE 5. It was introduced in a later version and called the Text on Shape tool. I'll contact you later off list re: this. -p On 2/1/2014 8:14 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I've drifted into lurk mode - had out-of-towner visiting and other things going on - but hoping there is a plug-in or app or procedure something that will take a line of text while in photoshop elements and place it within a circle around the circumfrance evenly. The text style thing variances don't seem to behave for me to do this.. Think the rim of the older Starbucks logo or the Chipolte signs and a few others I've seen. I've got elements 5.0 thanks much! ann -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's this building for?
On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 31 Jan 2014, at 08:31, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nice shot. I've passed through Dinan without stopping a couple of times. I'll stop next time. Don't know what the building's all about. Hay loft? Oyster smokery? B It's for reacclimating captive-bred mouflons to high places. How very stupid of me not to have known that! B Cath thought I was baa-king for suggesting it. On 31 Jan 2014, at 02:17, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On a small street in Dinon, Brittany; the louvered top two floors piqued our curiosity. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667078 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17667078-lg.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy 100th birthday, Leica!
It's by Jane Bown. B On 1 Feb 2014, at 14:33, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: HCB? Selfie? Interesting article. Thanks for posting... Cheers, frank Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jan/31/leica-100-birthday-photographers-messages “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's this building for?
On 1 Feb 2014, at 15:29, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 31 Jan 2014, at 08:31, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nice shot. I've passed through Dinan without stopping a couple of times. I'll stop next time. Don't know what the building's all about. Hay loft? Oyster smokery? B It's for reacclimating captive-bred mouflons to high places. How very stupid of me not to have known that! B Cath thought I was baa-king for suggesting it. You deserve to be lambasted. B On 31 Jan 2014, at 02:17, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On a small street in Dinon, Brittany; the louvered top two floors piqued our curiosity. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667078 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17667078-lg.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy 100th birthday, Leica!
I was commenting on the caption, which I thought was rather silly. Cheers, frank Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: It's by Jane Bown. B On 1 Feb 2014, at 14:33, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: HCB? Selfie? Interesting article. Thanks for posting... Cheers, frank Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jan/31/leica-100-birthday-photographers-messages “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It's that time of year
Done. I'll be keeping an eye out for the gathering masses with sheet music. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Doug Brewer d...@dougbrewerphotography.com wrote: For the bi-annual fund drive to keep the PDML going for another while. Please visit the PDML home page and drop a few drachmas* in the till. the masses will sing songs of your heroism in the days to come. Much love, Doug, List Guy and keeper of fundage, payer of billage. *not really. Use US funds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's this building for?
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 1 Feb 2014, at 15:29, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 31 Jan 2014, at 08:31, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nice shot. I've passed through Dinan without stopping a couple of times. I'll stop next time. Don't know what the building's all about. Hay loft? Oyster smokery? B It's for reacclimating captive-bred mouflons to high places. How very stupid of me not to have known that! B Cath thought I was baa-king for suggesting it. You deserve to be lambasted. As do ewe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Only In Vegas II
That *does* deserve the only in Vegas moniker... Nice shot. On 1/28/2014 11:27 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, ann will come along and tell me they have Denny's like this on the East Coast, heh, BUT... this is the only Denny's I've ever seen with a bar. And a FULL bar, nonetheless. ;-) It is normally a very prosaic restaurant, and serves breakfast all day. So I guess at this place you can get a Tequila Sunrise with your bacon and eggs... It was in a sort of strip mall. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/onlyvegas2.html Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed
I looked at the before and after versions of the yellow house. Her version is clearly better! But you gave her a good image to start from. It is too bad that such a nice house is falling over. stan On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Candice seems to have taken objection to my post processing skills and asked for the raw files of a couple of my Wilder Ranch sunset photos. As you can see from these, she's a bit more adept with photoshop than I (am with lightroom). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247932384/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247904144/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's this building for?
On 01/02/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 1 Feb 2014, at 15:29, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 31 Jan 2014, at 08:31, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/01/2014, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nice shot. I've passed through Dinan without stopping a couple of times. I'll stop next time. Don't know what the building's all about. Hay loft? Oyster smokery? B It's for reacclimating captive-bred mouflons to high places. How very stupid of me not to have known that! B Cath thought I was baa-king for suggesting it. You deserve to be lambasted. A mint suggestion, you saucy fellow. On 31 Jan 2014, at 02:17, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On a small street in Dinon, Brittany; the louvered top two floors piqued our curiosity. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667078 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17667078-lg.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy 100th birthday, Leica!
On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jan/31/leica-100-birthday-photographers-messages Thanks for the link, Bob! I know it's an editorial piece but there's a curious historical inaccuracy: … The R-System, an SLR camera that many Leica M users never came around to, kicked off in 1976 with the Leica R3 – their first electronic camera. … The Leicaflex was first produced in 1965. It was the Leica Reflex (R) system, the lenses always had -R in their names (e.g.: my 1965 Summicron-R 50mm f/2), and the 'flex bodies (Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL, Leicaflex SL2, with MOT variants on the latter two) were produced from 1965 to 1976. They renamed the bodies with Rn designation when they switched production to use the more modern design Minolta XK series derivative body castings in 1976. The R series lenses and bodies were ferociously expensive, even from the very beginning (a Leicaflex SL with Summicron-R 50mm lens was more than twice as much as a Nikon F Photomic FTn with 50mm lens in 1969, and the Nikon F was a pretty expensive camera itself compared to others), but in some instances they were the best that even Leica had to offer. They put their whole development effort in the Reflex line for a long time. Leica-wiki on the bodies: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Main_Page#Film_R 100 years is a short time, but so much has happened since Oskar created the Ur-Leica … even in the little niche world of photography. Something to reflect upon. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Question: Skiing and Photography
Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!
On 31/1/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I've come across a few that were quite nice, however. This bloke seems to think the EVF is something special. Bit of a fanboy maybe but he's not 100% on it. Interesting take. http://fotografeivindrohne.blogspot.no/2014/01/fujifilm-x-t1-first- hands-on-impressions.html?m=1 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. I haven't the need - Lightroom does 99% of everything I need, no real bonus to the CC for what I'm doing. But I know several people who bought the CC package of Photoshop and Lightroom on the special of, what was it, $10/month or something like that around Christmas time. They seem to be pleased with it. How much computer you need depends upon both what you are trying to accomplish and on what your expectations are. The simple answer is as much CPU, as much RAM, as much storage space as you can throw at it. But in practical terms, any recent Apple system with the faster variants of i5 and i7 processors, 4G RAM (8-16G preferable), and a big disk with 20-30% free space will do nicely. (I say Apple systems only because I don't keep track of non-Apple hardware or software.) I'd have no reservations using the package on my Mac mini, for instance (2.6Ghz i7-quad core, 16G RAM, 1T internal drive with 50% free space, connected to a Thunderbolt Display 27.) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!
On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 31/1/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I've come across a few that were quite nice, however. This bloke seems to think the EVF is something special. Bit of a fanboy maybe but he's not 100% on it. Interesting take. http://fotografeivindrohne.blogspot.no/2014/01/fujifilm-x-t1-first-hands-on-impressions.html?m=1 A bit, yes. ;-) The EVF sounds like the ones in the Olympus E-M1 and Sony A7/A7r. It might even be the same panel as one of them. This latest generation of EVFs is, to my eye, as transparent as the best reflex finders and more useful overall. They only fall down in extreme niche uses typically associated with very high speed subject motion (the Oly E-M1 negative crowd are all people who use the longest pro FT lenses and shoot birds in flight … SLRs are still the best tool for that niche use). You should go play with one or the other of these bodies, until the Fuji is in the stores to look at too, to see the state of the art. If the Fuji's finder is even better quality, more power to them! If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years (aside from the weird processing required for the X sensors), and with the Sony A7, it's the placement of the EV Compensation dial. The right-rear corner is just wrong—I have to move my whole right hand to adjust EV compensation, and that's something I do all the time since I use aperture priority AE most of the time. The Sony allows me to re-map this control to the front dial, making it fall to hand easily like it is on the Olympus E-M1 and other cameras I own. I don't know whether that solution is possible on the Fuji. A little thing, but it always irks me. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Thanks, Godfrey! Sounds good. I’m not really interested in the photog stuff. I’m completely committed to Lightroom on my hard drive (iMac Laptop)etc. I’m not budging from that. I use my PSElements when I need to. Very happy with this setup for now. What I am interested in learning and using are the InDesign and other apps. If I consider it, I’ll add some ram to my desktop, which I should do anyway. I am, however, at the low end of the processors: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 on my iMac and a little better on the laptop 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5, but 8 gigs of ram. I’d actually like to use the CC on the laptop. Lots of space on my hard drive for both—no worries there. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. I haven't the need - Lightroom does 99% of everything I need, no real bonus to the CC for what I'm doing. But I know several people who bought the CC package of Photoshop and Lightroom on the special of, what was it, $10/month or something like that around Christmas time. They seem to be pleased with it. How much computer you need depends upon both what you are trying to accomplish and on what your expectations are. The simple answer is as much CPU, as much RAM, as much storage space as you can throw at it. But in practical terms, any recent Apple system with the faster variants of i5 and i7 processors, 4G RAM (8-16G preferable), and a big disk with 20-30% free space will do nicely. (I say Apple systems only because I don't keep track of non-Apple hardware or software.) I'd have no reservations using the package on my Mac mini, for instance (2.6Ghz i7-quad core, 16G RAM, 1T internal drive with 50% free space, connected to a Thunderbolt Display 27.) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2014 - 036 - GDG
I'm staying in today, battling the coldy/fevery thing I've been fighting for three days already, so no walk this morning. I'll work on some photos I haven't had time to process from recent weeks instead of making new stuff this weekend. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12253797355/ A little Mondrian-ish, perhaps. ;-) Thanks for looking! Comments appreciated. Godfrey --- The fact that nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It should work fine on either. It will just be a little slower on the i5 compared to the i7 processor, depending on what exactly you ask it to do. :-) G On Feb 1, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks, Godfrey! Sounds good. I’m not really interested in the photog stuff. I’m completely committed to Lightroom on my hard drive (iMac Laptop)etc. I’m not budging from that. I use my PSElements when I need to. Very happy with this setup for now. What I am interested in learning and using are the InDesign and other apps. If I consider it, I’ll add some ram to my desktop, which I should do anyway. I am, however, at the low end of the processors: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 on my iMac and a little better on the laptop 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5, but 8 gigs of ram. I’d actually like to use the CC on the laptop. Lots of space on my hard drive for both—no worries there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
I'm with Godfrey. LR does all (no need for any other software, really) I need in terms of editing, organization, uploading, books, etc. I plan to stick to off-line option for as long as this option is possible. Additionally, not long ago Adobe had some hacking issues with the creative cloud, which I suppose they resolved, but nonetheless, I don't feel comfortable having to upload full size photos up there. My computer has rather oldish specs: Win 7 Home Premium, i5-3450 CPU, 8GB RAM and oldish 60GB SSD for LR cache. I have turned off Windows swap file as 8GB RAM is enough for everything I do. In terms of storage, I have a different computer running Linux with two pairs of mirrored HDDs that hold all my stuff. There is a direct cable 1 GBit connection between the two that suffices as far as speed of operations is concerned. From time to time, I make mirror backup to assortment of USB-3 external HDDs. Boris On 2/1/2014 6:50 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: local store close-out
Picked them up today. The items are new from Cord Camera chain close-out. #1 Pentax Hot Shoe Adapter F $15 + shipping. #2 Pentax AA Battery Pack FG. Use AA batteries to power your ZX or MZ body. (All but the MZ-S) Four available. $15 ea. + shipping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
Are we talking alpint, jumping, cross-country or X-games kinda skiing here? :-) My own experience is with cross-country. I bring the usual backpack, and a snoot bag with harness to fit across my chest for easy access to camera. When maneuvering in snow, make sure you have your arms free. That's important whether you're skiing yourself, use snowshoes or just unadorned legs. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 5:56 PM To: PDML List Subject: Question: Skiing and Photography Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!
Hmmm. Interesting! Thanks, Cotty. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 31/1/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I've come across a few that were quite nice, however. This bloke seems to think the EVF is something special. Bit of a fanboy maybe but he's not 100% on it. Interesting take. http://fotografeivindrohne.blogspot.no/2014/01/fujifilm-x-t1-first- hands-on-impressions.html?m=1 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
Someplace a few months ago I saw a video on back-country extreme skiing and the photography thereof. You might try a search on YouTube. It has been awhile since I skied, but IIRC I wouldn’t want to wear a backpack or shoulder bag. Unless we are talking Bunny Slope and Green runs, in which case the backpack would be ok. I would be inclined to start with a WG-III in my pocket. Go out, set up, take some shots. Figure out what was going to be the best focal length(s) for the kind of shots I want to be able to get. Back out that afternoon or the next day with K-5/K-3 and a single lens, wrapped in foam in a small backpack or daypack. Set up and shoot away. Watch out for out-of-control crazies. Shoot some more. Pack everything up, ski to a new location, repeat. If I only had one shot at it with no time to trial test with a pocket camera, I would take the K-5/K-3 with 50-135 as my main camera, the WG-III as a backup and in case I needed to go wider than 50mm. I would not want to be changing lenses in the snow, I would not want to go in and out of the ski lodge multiple times to change lenses (condensation issues), and I would not want to carry more than just one basic kit. stan On Feb 1, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On 2/1/2014 11:50 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. Cheers, Christine The only part I can really answer is that last ... AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! The more you have the better it's going to work. As far as I can tell, the difference between the perpetual license version the creative clout is: 1. The perpetual license version does not check to see if you've paid the rent this month. 2. There will never be another perpetual license version. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Christine, h/w wise you'll be fine, but add some RAM to the 4GB machine. You need to be north of 6GB to be happy. The special photographer pricing of $20/month only applies to Lr + Ps. If you want InDesign and the other design packages you'll pay much more, up to $50/month. Upside, you can rent until you are done, then cancel. Disclaimer: I'm not a CC user. I'm allergic to the rental model. I'm happy with Lr and CS5. I may upgrade to CS6, but after that, nada. I'm adopting a wait and see stance. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks, Godfrey! Sounds good. I’m not really interested in the photog stuff. I’m completely committed to Lightroom on my hard drive (iMac Laptop)etc. I’m not budging from that. I use my PSElements when I need to. Very happy with this setup for now. What I am interested in learning and using are the InDesign and other apps. If I consider it, I’ll add some ram to my desktop, which I should do anyway. I am, however, at the low end of the processors: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 on my iMac and a little better on the laptop 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5, but 8 gigs of ram. I’d actually like to use the CC on the laptop. Lots of space on my hard drive for both—no worries there. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. I haven't the need - Lightroom does 99% of everything I need, no real bonus to the CC for what I'm doing. But I know several people who bought the CC package of Photoshop and Lightroom on the special of, what was it, $10/month or something like that around Christmas time. They seem to be pleased with it. How much computer you need depends upon both what you are trying to accomplish and on what your expectations are. The simple answer is as much CPU, as much RAM, as much storage space as you can throw at it. But in practical terms, any recent Apple system with the faster variants of i5 and i7 processors, 4G RAM (8-16G preferable), and a big disk with 20-30% free space will do nicely. (I say Apple systems only because I don't keep track of non-Apple hardware or software.) I'd have no reservations using the package on my Mac mini, for instance (2.6Ghz i7-quad core, 16G RAM, 1T internal drive with 50% free space, connected to a Thunderbolt Display 27.) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
On 2/1/2014 11:56 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine Regular Pentax Strap combined with the Op/Tech Stabilizer Strap. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/39643-REG/OP_TECH_USA_5301002_Stabilizer_Strap.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm using CS6 and figure it will serve me well for years to come. I don't need Lightroom. Don't like it. I had a $9/month offer for PS and LR cloud versions. Not interested. Paul via phone On Feb 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, h/w wise you'll be fine, but add some RAM to the 4GB machine. You need to be north of 6GB to be happy. The special photographer pricing of $20/month only applies to Lr + Ps. If you want InDesign and the other design packages you'll pay much more, up to $50/month. Upside, you can rent until you are done, then cancel. Disclaimer: I'm not a CC user. I'm allergic to the rental model. I'm happy with Lr and CS5. I may upgrade to CS6, but after that, nada. I'm adopting a wait and see stance. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks, Godfrey! Sounds good. I’m not really interested in the photog stuff. I’m completely committed to Lightroom on my hard drive (iMac Laptop)etc. I’m not budging from that. I use my PSElements when I need to. Very happy with this setup for now. What I am interested in learning and using are the InDesign and other apps. If I consider it, I’ll add some ram to my desktop, which I should do anyway. I am, however, at the low end of the processors: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 on my iMac and a little better on the laptop 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5, but 8 gigs of ram. I’d actually like to use the CC on the laptop. Lots of space on my hard drive for both—no worries there. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. I haven't the need - Lightroom does 99% of everything I need, no real bonus to the CC for what I'm doing. But I know several people who bought the CC package of Photoshop and Lightroom on the special of, what was it, $10/month or something like that around Christmas time. They seem to be pleased with it. How much computer you need depends upon both what you are trying to accomplish and on what your expectations are. The simple answer is as much CPU, as much RAM, as much storage space as you can throw at it. But in practical terms, any recent Apple system with the faster variants of i5 and i7 processors, 4G RAM (8-16G preferable), and a big disk with 20-30% free space will do nicely. (I say Apple systems only because I don't keep track of non-Apple hardware or software.) I'd have no reservations using the package on my Mac mini, for instance (2.6Ghz i7-quad core, 16G RAM, 1T internal drive with 50% free space, connected to a Thunderbolt Display 27.) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
On 1 Feb 2014, at 16:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. I went skiing a few years ago with one of my brothers and his family, who are very good skiers. It's the only time I've skiied. It was the film era and I was using a Contax with Zeiss lenses. When I was skiing I left them at my brother's house - I had no wish to have that stuff on me while skiing, it was likely to be dangerous. On some days I didn't ski, and took the camera kit in a Domke F-2, went up the ski lift with them and found some spots where I could get different views of them on the way down, them some shots of one of my nephews boarding. I took a full range of lenses, from a 300mm to a 21mm. I took incident light readings with my hand shading the underside of the meter so that the snow would come out right. Here's a page I've just put up. Low-res scans to CD. http://www.web-options.com/Skiing/ The best shot is the one of my nephew jumping off a low bank - that's with a 21mm lens (35mm camera). Most of the shots are very samey, although I expect someone with more experience would much better. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Bruce! Yes, I did see the price on the InDesign apps. I watched some tutorials this morning. Really fun stuff. Totally agree about the RAM on the iMac. In three months, I will be a much freer Bird; I’ll be getting rid of some work responsibilities that have kept me trapped for the last two years. Knowing I’m about to be free, I’ve been thinking about future creative projects I’d like to do for not other reason than to do them. Life may just become fun again! Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, h/w wise you'll be fine, but add some RAM to the 4GB machine. You need to be north of 6GB to be happy. The special photographer pricing of $20/month only applies to Lr + Ps. If you want InDesign and the other design packages you'll pay much more, up to $50/month. Upside, you can rent until you are done, then cancel. Disclaimer: I'm not a CC user. I'm allergic to the rental model. I'm happy with Lr and CS5. I may upgrade to CS6, but after that, nada. I'm adopting a wait and see stance. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks, Godfrey! Sounds good. I’m not really interested in the photog stuff. I’m completely committed to Lightroom on my hard drive (iMac Laptop)etc. I’m not budging from that. I use my PSElements when I need to. Very happy with this setup for now. What I am interested in learning and using are the InDesign and other apps. If I consider it, I’ll add some ram to my desktop, which I should do anyway. I am, however, at the low end of the processors: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 on my iMac and a little better on the laptop 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5, but 8 gigs of ram. I’d actually like to use the CC on the laptop. Lots of space on my hard drive for both—no worries there. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. I haven't the need - Lightroom does 99% of everything I need, no real bonus to the CC for what I'm doing. But I know several people who bought the CC package of Photoshop and Lightroom on the special of, what was it, $10/month or something like that around Christmas time. They seem to be pleased with it. How much computer you need depends upon both what you are trying to accomplish and on what your expectations are. The simple answer is as much CPU, as much RAM, as much storage space as you can throw at it. But in practical terms, any recent Apple system with the faster variants of i5 and i7 processors, 4G RAM (8-16G preferable), and a big disk with 20-30% free space will do nicely. (I say Apple systems only because I don't keep track of non-Apple hardware or software.) I'd have no reservations using the package on my Mac mini, for instance (2.6Ghz i7-quad core, 16G RAM, 1T internal drive with 50% free space, connected to a Thunderbolt Display 27.) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Sounds like there aren’t too many Creative Cloud users on PDML. Maybe for that reason, I’ll jump in :-. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I'm using CS6 and figure it will serve me well for years to come. I don't need Lightroom. Don't like it. I had a $9/month offer for PS and LR cloud versions. Not interested. Paul via phone On Feb 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, h/w wise you'll be fine, but add some RAM to the 4GB machine. You need to be north of 6GB to be happy. The special photographer pricing of $20/month only applies to Lr + Ps. If you want InDesign and the other design packages you'll pay much more, up to $50/month. Upside, you can rent until you are done, then cancel. Disclaimer: I'm not a CC user. I'm allergic to the rental model. I'm happy with Lr and CS5. I may upgrade to CS6, but after that, nada. I'm adopting a wait and see stance. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Thanks, Godfrey! Sounds good. I’m not really interested in the photog stuff. I’m completely committed to Lightroom on my hard drive (iMac Laptop)etc. I’m not budging from that. I use my PSElements when I need to. Very happy with this setup for now. What I am interested in learning and using are the InDesign and other apps. If I consider it, I’ll add some ram to my desktop, which I should do anyway. I am, however, at the low end of the processors: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 on my iMac and a little better on the laptop 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5, but 8 gigs of ram. I’d actually like to use the CC on the laptop. Lots of space on my hard drive for both—no worries there. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. I haven't the need - Lightroom does 99% of everything I need, no real bonus to the CC for what I'm doing. But I know several people who bought the CC package of Photoshop and Lightroom on the special of, what was it, $10/month or something like that around Christmas time. They seem to be pleased with it. How much computer you need depends upon both what you are trying to accomplish and on what your expectations are. The simple answer is as much CPU, as much RAM, as much storage space as you can throw at it. But in practical terms, any recent Apple system with the faster variants of i5 and i7 processors, 4G RAM (8-16G preferable), and a big disk with 20-30% free space will do nicely. (I say Apple systems only because I don't keep track of non-Apple hardware or software.) I'd have no reservations using the package on my Mac mini, for instance (2.6Ghz i7-quad core, 16G RAM, 1T internal drive with 50% free space, connected to a Thunderbolt Display 27.) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
I find Creative Cloud an interesting concept, though I really have to be able to justify usage. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:37 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On 2/1/2014 11:50 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. Cheers, Christine The only part I can really answer is that last ... AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! The more you have the better it's going to work. As far as I can tell, the difference between the perpetual license version the creative clout is: 1. The perpetual license version does not check to see if you've paid the rent this month. 2. There will never be another perpetual license version. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
It would be downhill, but I wouldn’t be on the advanced hills. Good advice about arms! Thanks, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Are we talking alpint, jumping, cross-country or X-games kinda skiing here? :-) My own experience is with cross-country. I bring the usual backpack, and a snoot bag with harness to fit across my chest for easy access to camera. When maneuvering in snow, make sure you have your arms free. That's important whether you're skiing yourself, use snowshoes or just unadorned legs. :-) Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 5:56 PM To: PDML List Subject: Question: Skiing and Photography Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
Fantastic, John! Thanks! Have it bookmarked! Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:49 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: On 2/1/2014 11:56 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine Regular Pentax Strap combined with the Op/Tech Stabilizer Strap. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/39643-REG/OP_TECH_USA_5301002_Stabilizer_Strap.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
Excellent point on the pre-shoot with the WG. I have that camera. The kit you suggest is what I was thinking of—and agree no lens changing on the hill. Foam suggestion excellent as well. Thanks, Stan! Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Someplace a few months ago I saw a video on back-country extreme skiing and the photography thereof. You might try a search on YouTube. It has been awhile since I skied, but IIRC I wouldn’t want to wear a backpack or shoulder bag. Unless we are talking Bunny Slope and Green runs, in which case the backpack would be ok. I would be inclined to start with a WG-III in my pocket. Go out, set up, take some shots. Figure out what was going to be the best focal length(s) for the kind of shots I want to be able to get. Back out that afternoon or the next day with K-5/K-3 and a single lens, wrapped in foam in a small backpack or daypack. Set up and shoot away. Watch out for out-of-control crazies. Shoot some more. Pack everything up, ski to a new location, repeat. If I only had one shot at it with no time to trial test with a pocket camera, I would take the K-5/K-3 with 50-135 as my main camera, the WG-III as a backup and in case I needed to go wider than 50mm. I would not want to be changing lenses in the snow, I would not want to go in and out of the ski lodge multiple times to change lenses (condensation issues), and I would not want to carry more than just one basic kit. stan On Feb 1, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
Thanks, Bob! Good light metering suggestion. I like the pics. Light did come out very well. Impressive. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 1 Feb 2014, at 16:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. I went skiing a few years ago with one of my brothers and his family, who are very good skiers. It's the only time I've skiied. It was the film era and I was using a Contax with Zeiss lenses. When I was skiing I left them at my brother's house - I had no wish to have that stuff on me while skiing, it was likely to be dangerous. On some days I didn't ski, and took the camera kit in a Domke F-2, went up the ski lift with them and found some spots where I could get different views of them on the way down, them some shots of one of my nephews boarding. I took a full range of lenses, from a 300mm to a 21mm. I took incident light readings with my hand shading the underside of the meter so that the snow would come out right. Here's a page I've just put up. Low-res scans to CD. http://www.web-options.com/Skiing/ The best shot is the one of my nephew jumping off a low bank - that's with a 21mm lens (35mm camera). Most of the shots are very samey, although I expect someone with more experience would much better. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
The good part about the rental subscription licensing is that if you try things out and then find you don't really need/use it, you can just opt out. Convert your work to standards based formats (TIFF and PDF), archive the projects, etc. Then, if you find you need it again, just reactivate your subscription. If I were doing occasional projects that needed these apps, that's exactly how I'd work it. And it would take a few years at $50/month for three/four months per year to equal even the single purchase of Creative Suite, never mind updates. This software and the subscription licensing model is really targeted at business use, where the cost of these tools is a trivial part of the cost of doing business. Hobbyists and occasional artists rarely have the need for this stuff—there are plenty of less costly solutions that do the job very well available. Godfrey On Feb 1, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: I find Creative Cloud an interesting concept, though I really have to be able to justify usage. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Quoting Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com: Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe?s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. I took up the photography option of Photoshop CC + Lightroom as an affordable way to upgrade Photoshop. I've only dabbled with the Lightroom component - I have other software for image management - but I may use it for the occasional image. My system is pretty basic by today's standards - 32 bit Win 7 with 2 MB RAM - and it struggles a bit with Photoshop, but not so much that I'm in a hurry to upgrade it. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: This software and the subscription licensing model is really targeted at business use, where the cost of these tools is a trivial part of the cost of doing business. Hobbyists and occasional artists rarely have the need for this stuff—there are plenty of less costly solutions that do the job very well available. Sadly not true for artists who use layers and do compositing (many do that, like adding textures), and artists and part-timers doing sophisticated retouching. That's many folks, like me. There are no packages out there that support the features needed for portrait retouching. Yes it _can_ be done (barely) with The Gimp and the like, but it's needlessly complicated and difficult. A 10 minute Ps retouch would become a 2 hour one on The Gimp for me. And the plan of converting projects to TIFF and back when cancelling CC and then later re-subscribing is not very workable. When you convert your project to TIFF you lose all the layers and internal state you had built up. I keep all my retouches in PSD form so I can return later, even years later, and do more work if necessary. Or examine how I did something. They are all works in progress. On again off again CC won't work for me. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Feb 1, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: The good part about the rental subscription licensing is that if you try things out and then find you don't really need/use it, you can just opt out. Convert your work to standards based formats (TIFF and PDF), archive the projects, etc. Then, if you find you need it again, just reactivate your subscription. If I were doing occasional projects that needed these apps, that's exactly how I'd work it. And it would take a few years at $50/month for three/four months per year to equal even the single purchase of Creative Suite, never mind updates. That’s exactly what I was thinking. Prep all my project specs, prep and organize my project assets so they’re good to go, then activate subscription when needed and cancel when not needed. Kind of cool idea really. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO January faves
Larry, Joe's Bar is the best IMO. Some of the others cry out for better light to lift them from the snapshot category. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO January faves Here are my best shots from January: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639425946344/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed
Larry, both are nice captures but I would remove the vegetation in the URH corner of the first image if it were mine Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed Photoshop is a better tool. Paul via phone On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Candice seems to have taken objection to my post processing skills and asked for the raw files of a couple of my Wilder Ranch sunset photos. As you can see from these, she's a bit more adept with photoshop than I (am with lightroom). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247932384/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247904144/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
Christine, you might give some thought to POV video. GoPros are very easy to use, have many different mounts (chest, head and helmet) and produce very good video. I used mine during my sled dog race and the video came out better than any stills I could have taken with out stopping. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: Re: Question: Skiing and Photography On 1 Feb 2014, at 16:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. I went skiing a few years ago with one of my brothers and his family, who are very good skiers. It's the only time I've skiied. It was the film era and I was using a Contax with Zeiss lenses. When I was skiing I left them at my brother's house - I had no wish to have that stuff on me while skiing, it was likely to be dangerous. On some days I didn't ski, and took the camera kit in a Domke F-2, went up the ski lift with them and found some spots where I could get different views of them on the way down, them some shots of one of my nephews boarding. I took a full range of lenses, from a 300mm to a 21mm. I took incident light readings with my hand shading the underside of the meter so that the snow would come out right. Here's a page I've just put up. Low-res scans to CD. http://www.web-options.com/Skiing/ The best shot is the one of my nephew jumping off a low bank - that's with a 21mm lens (35mm camera). Most of the shots are very samey, although I expect someone with more experience would much better. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Feb 1, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: This software and the subscription licensing model is really targeted at business use, where the cost of these tools is a trivial part of the cost of doing business. Hobbyists and occasional artists rarely have the need for this stuff—there are plenty of less costly solutions that do the job very well available. Sadly not true for artists who use layers and do compositing (many do that, like adding textures), and artists and part-timers doing sophisticated retouching. That's many folks, like me. There are no packages out there that support the features needed for portrait retouching. Yes it _can_ be done (barely) with The Gimp and the like, but it's needlessly complicated and difficult. A 10 minute Ps retouch would become a 2 hour one on The Gimp for me. I said occasional artists. Career artists make a living from their work and the cost of doing business rules apply. That aside, GIMP is wretched. But GIMP is far from the only option. Corel Paintshop Pro does a very good job. Photoshop Elements is perpetual license and does 99% of what photographers do with Photoshop. Photo Matix, Pixelmator, etc etc, are all layered pixelmap editors with lots of capabilities and support. There are dozens out there. But if you really really must have Photoshop CS and the latest version, you have no choice but to suck it up and pay for the privilege. You do anyway if you buy a copy and then keep it updated properly with a perpetual license. And the plan of converting projects to TIFF and back when cancelling CC and then later re-subscribing is not very workable. When you convert your project to TIFF you lose all the layers and internal state you had built up. I keep all my retouches in PSD form so I can return later, even years later, and do more work if necessary. Or examine how I did something. They are all works in progress. On again off again CC won't work for me. I didn't say to convert to standards formats and back again. I said to convert to standards formats and archive the originals, should you ever need them to use with the original apps again. The standards format versions work fine for most other apps that you use them as components of a project with. BTW, TIFF supports layers. I haven't used PSD format since 2006, but I have a bunch of layered TIFFs that I use to produce my cards. It is the single use I have for Photoshop nowadays, really … I could dump PS entirely and recreate them in some other app, but until PS CS 5.1 stops working, I have no need to. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
I am not using Adobe cloud at this time, but one question I wonder about is how it handles updates. I updated to PS CS 6 several months ago and, as usual, it takes some time to get used to the changes. I inevitably find the changes / upgrades to be beneficial, but there are also times were I go to execute a familiar process and suddenly realize that I have no idea where the menu command has been moved to or how it has been replaced / upgraded by new commands. It can be a pain if I'm in a hurry and just trying to get something done quickly and not interested in learning about the new features at that moment. The simple solution is to leave the old version of PS to fall back to until I am fully up and running with the new... and I often do fall back to in in the first few months after upgrading. So - with Creative Cloud what I don't know is if updates just happen and you constantly are finding that something is moved, different, improved, etc. and constantly diverting your attention to figuring out new stuff. Maybe the user can control the update process, maybe the updates become so incremental that it is not such an issue. But I would hate it if it updated and changed things on an ongoing basis. If I ever move to CC I will be researching that question. (For the foreseeable future PS6 will be more than sufficient for me.) Mark On 2/1/2014 11:50 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: So - with Creative Cloud what I don't know is if updates just happen and you constantly are finding that something is moved, different, improved, etc. and constantly diverting your attention to figuring out new stuff. Maybe the user can control the update process, maybe the updates become so incremental that it is not such an issue. It doesn't update automatically (at least not by default). An Adobe Update tool notifies you that new versions are available, and you download and install them if you wish. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: This software and the subscription licensing model is really targeted at business use, where the cost of these tools is a trivial part of the cost of doing business. Hobbyists and occasional artists rarely have the need for this stuff—there are plenty of less costly solutions that do the job very well available. Sadly not true for artists who use layers and do compositing (many do that, like adding textures), and artists and part-timers doing sophisticated retouching. That's many folks, like me. There are no packages out there that support the features needed for portrait retouching. Yes it _can_ be done (barely) with The Gimp and the like, but it's needlessly complicated and difficult. A 10 minute Ps retouch would become a 2 hour one on The Gimp for me. I said occasional artists. Career artists make a living from their work and the cost of doing business rules apply. Occasional artists don't have sophisticated needs? I know I do. I don't make a living from my art, but I need the power of Ps to do what I want to do. That aside, GIMP is wretched. But GIMP is far from the only option. Corel Paintshop Pro does a very good job. Photoshop Elements is perpetual license and does 99% of what photographers do with Photoshop. Photo Matix, Pixelmator, etc etc, are all layered pixelmap editors with lots of capabilities and support. There are dozens out there. None of these packages offer both layers, with all the Ps layer blending modes, and masks. The fact that Ps Elements lacks masking completely removes it from contention for retouching, for example. Even the fact it cannot warp a layer is a show-stopper. But if you really really must have Photoshop CS and the latest version, you have no choice but to suck it up and pay for the privilege. You do anyway if you buy a copy and then keep it updated properly with a perpetual license. I don't need the latest version. I need a capable version. CS5 suits me. My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
That's an excellent suggestion, Ken. Friends I'm with could body-mount it too for some fun video and narrative. Thanks! Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Christine, you might give some thought to POV video. GoPros are very easy to use, have many different mounts (chest, head and helmet) and produce very good video. I used mine during my sled dog race and the video came out better than any stills I could have taken with out stopping. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: Re: Question: Skiing and Photography On 1 Feb 2014, at 16:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, preparation and strategy, and safety issues? Obviously, a photographer wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks coming down the hill. How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering along the hill? Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs? I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season. I went skiing a few years ago with one of my brothers and his family, who are very good skiers. It's the only time I've skiied. It was the film era and I was using a Contax with Zeiss lenses. When I was skiing I left them at my brother's house - I had no wish to have that stuff on me while skiing, it was likely to be dangerous. On some days I didn't ski, and took the camera kit in a Domke F-2, went up the ski lift with them and found some spots where I could get different views of them on the way down, them some shots of one of my nephews boarding. I took a full range of lenses, from a 300mm to a 21mm. I took incident light readings with my hand shading the underside of the meter so that the snow would come out right. Here's a page I've just put up. Low-res scans to CD. http://www.web-options.com/Skiing/ The best shot is the one of my nephew jumping off a low bank - that's with a 21mm lens (35mm camera). Most of the shots are very samey, although I expect someone with more experience would much better. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
on 2014-02-01 14:46 Matthew Hunt wrote It doesn't update automatically (at least not by default). An Adobe Update tool notifies you that new versions are available, and you download and install them if you wish. it doesn't tell you anything about the update, not even how big the download is, so you have to research it on your own; once you update, you can never go back -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
on 2014-02-01 13:32 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote The good part about the rental subscription licensing is that if you try things out and then find you don't really need/use it, you can just opt out. Convert your work to standards based formats (TIFF and PDF), archive the projects, etc. Then, if you find you need it again, just reactivate your subscription. If I were doing occasional projects that needed these apps, that's exactly how I'd work it. And it would take a few years at $50/month for three/four months per year to equal even the single purchase of Creative Suite, never mind updates. you can't do a three/four months per year at $50/month - it is $75/month without a year's commitment also, if don't you want to download everything all over again, you will want to leave it installed when your subscription expires, however the updater it will keep checking and notifying you even though you aren't eligible for updates -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Feb 1, 2014, at 2:29 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-02-01 13:32 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote The good part about the rental subscription licensing is that if you try things out and then find you don't really need/use it, you can just opt out. Convert your work to standards based formats (TIFF and PDF), archive the projects, etc. Then, if you find you need it again, just reactivate your subscription. If I were doing occasional projects that needed these apps, that's exactly how I'd work it. And it would take a few years at $50/month for three/four months per year to equal even the single purchase of Creative Suite, never mind updates. you can't do a three/four months per year at $50/month - it is $75/month without a year's commitment Sure. Still not a problem. That's $300 for four months use, always with the latest. Creative Suite was like $1500 or so, so after you use it this way for five years, you've paid the equivalent of one CS price but no further update charges. CS would need a $500 update every 18 months or so on the perpetual license. To me that is a bargain if I'm getting the work I need done with it. also, if don't you want to download everything all over again, you will want to leave it installed when your subscription expires, however the updater it will keep checking and notifying you even though you aren't eligible for updates I have several hundred gigabytes of storage space available on my startup drive. And I can disable the updater… However, with a fast network at my disposal, I'd just delete and re-download. Not a big deal at all. I doubt I'll ever do it, however, since I have no need now or in the foreseeable future. Never say never though. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunset Selfie
Serves me right to try to be artistic. G Thanks, Bob, for looking and commenting. Someone on this list suggested some time ago that when everyone is pointing their cameras in the same direction, one should turn around and see if there is something surprising in the other direction. That is what I did here, an what I have been doing with a series of people watching the sunset. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, You're looking the wrong way! Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667263 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: it doesn't tell you anything about the update, not even how big the download is, so you have to research it on your own; once you update, you can never go back It tells me something about the update: http://i.imgur.com/OzvioVo (Stupidly, however, the URL for more information is not clickable or selectable.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunset Selfie
Thanks, Frank. This is what is known as a macroscian image: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/macroscian http://wordsmith.org/words/macroscian.html Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Fun shot, Dan. Very good! On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667263 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Maui Sunset
The end of another perfect day in paradise: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed
I agree! Also, I'd have to level it up a bit. Jack - Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed Larry, both are nice captures but I would remove the vegetation in the URH corner of the first image if it were mine Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed Photoshop is a better tool. Paul via phone On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Candice seems to have taken objection to my post processing skills and asked for the raw files of a couple of my Wilder Ranch sunset photos. As you can see from these, she's a bit more adept with photoshop than I (am with lightroom). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247932384/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12247904144/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2014 - 036 - GDG
Quite interesting and appealing, to my eye at least. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: I'm staying in today, battling the coldy/fevery thing I've been fighting for three days already, so no walk this morning. I'll work on some photos I haven't had time to process from recent weeks instead of making new stuff this weekend. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12253797355/ A little Mondrian-ish, perhaps. ;-) Thanks for looking! Comments appreciated. Godfrey --- The fact that nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 1.4x converter
On Jan 27, 2014, at 12:42 , steve harley wrote: on 2014-01-27 12:20 Mark Roberts wrote I think the text on the barrel was Photoshopped in but I think it's a genuine Pentax product shot done from a pre-production prototype. i think the whole thing is a fake; every detail of mount surface has highlights indicating a light source to the left, but the black body has a highlight from a light source to the right; what shows of the bayonet has two highlights … at the lower edge of metal mount surface, there is an area just left of center where the bright metal is out of round and blurred, making the black ring next to the mount surface narrower … the text curves such that the right side of each line is lower than the left, and this is more pronounced on the lower line It's not only the text, but the piece of material (or PS layer) holding the text has a different radius than the converter, matching up with the converter in the center, but almost bisecting the vertical lip of the top at it's end points. Definitely not a Pentax product shot, beta or whatever. Like others have said, I can wait, I can't afford, and I have the Tamron 1.4 and 2.0x converters for PZ-1p, plus the 2.0 A Pentax unit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On 2/1/2014 4:46 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: So - with Creative Cloud what I don't know is if updates just happen and you constantly are finding that something is moved, different, improved, etc. and constantly diverting your attention to figuring out new stuff. Maybe the user can control the update process, maybe the updates become so incremental that it is not such an issue. It doesn't update automatically (at least not by default). An Adobe Update tool notifies you that new versions are available, and you download and install them if you wish. That's good to know - so you can hold off on updating so if you are under the gun you do no need to deal with figuring out new ways of doing things. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It's that time of year
Thanks for all you do on our behalf, Doug! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Doug Brewer d...@dougbrewerphotography.com wrote: For the bi-annual fund drive to keep the PDML going for another while. Please visit the PDML home page and drop a few drachmas* in the till. the masses will sing songs of your heroism in the days to come. Much love, Doug, List Guy and keeper of fundage, payer of billage. *not really. Use US funds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography
Remarkable indeed! He seems to have a dark muse . . . . Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: His House In The Woods -project got some good press here in Scandinavia about a year ago. Interesting how he combines decay of man-made structures and animal photography. I love his image aestethics. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bruce Walker Dato: 31. januar 2014 01:53 Til: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography This Finnish photographer's stuff is really remarkable ... http://www.kafa.fi/pages/gallery1.php http://www.kafa.fi/pages/the-house-in-the-woods.php -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Quoting steve harley p...@paper-ape.com: on 2014-02-01 14:46 Matthew Hunt wrote It doesn't update automatically (at least not by default). An Adobe Update tool notifies you that new versions are available, and you download and install them if you wish. it doesn't tell you anything about the update, not even how big the download is, so you have to research it on your own; once you update, you can never go back ...which is the main thing that bothers me. So far, updates have worked OK but I will probably not update from now on unless there's some compelling reason to do so. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Maui Sunset
Dan, That's marvelous! Wonderfully colored and artistic. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The end of another perfect day in paradise: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: http://i.imgur.com/OzvioVo Also, the updater inside Photoshop (Help - Updates) shows the sizes in addition to the change summary: http://imgur.com/ZWdy8CZ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
on 2014-02-01 9:50 Christine Aguila wrote Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. i have used Photoshop and Illustrator since the early 90s, and InDesign since its public beta; i had a CC subscription when it launched; canceled it last May when the intro price, $30/month, went up to $50; i doubt my situation is that uncommon — i have a background and a small current sideline as a graphics professional, so i have occasional uses for InDesign, Acrobat, Photoshop Illustrator, but not quite enough to justify $600/year; that could change (i do a significant amount with QuarkXPress still, but my client supplies a license), and it's nice to think i can jump back into InDesign when needed without forking over full price; but by pricing me out, Adobe has caused me to use other tools and gradually lose my chops with the Adobe apps … for example i do text with markdown and sometimes Pages, and i find Pixelmator is great for quick hack jobs on images (has layers, type, and a lot more, but is not nearly as precise, nor do i trust its color) when i did subscribe, i found i really disliked CC's required update tool on the Mac; and from a professional standpoint there are serious concerns about no recourse for version-specific bugs and incompatibilities — one can't retain multiple versions of what the subscription supplies, as one could with the traditional license, and Adobe historically has taken years to fix significant bugs introduced by new versions overall Adobe doesn't have my confidence; its professional apps have a guaranteed market in the short term, but its long-term strategy seems to be focused on the consumer, not pro, market; i regret that Adobe ever dominated the market as it did, because that set us up for trouble when print publishing stopped being a growth industry — for example, without Adobe's dominance i think it might have felt pressure to gradate prices depending on the subscribers' needs (student pricing is worth looking at, though) i do think if you need just Photoshop and LR and you qualify, $10/month is a pretty good price; LightRoom seems to have a growthful future both for pros and consumers, so it may be insulated from the market-dominance side effects as for hardware requirements, it depends on the type of documents you produce; with InDesign, longer and/or more complex documents can slow things down a lot, and benefit from faster machines; InDesign is not a lightweight application, i found the CC version slowish with moderately complex documents (2 pages, but hundreds of elements) on my quad-i7 laptop with 16GB RAM; the i5 vs i7 probably makes less difference than the amount of RAM and the speed of your drives; i understand newer iMacs use desktop versions of i5 i7 CPUs, which differ less in their performance than the mobile versions of the same; a large display is also helpful, as InDesign is very palette-happy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Adobe doesn't have my confidence either. Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my friend. And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every time. I believe that is bullshit. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:37 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-02-01 9:50 Christine Aguila wrote Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe's Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. i have used Photoshop and Illustrator since the early 90s, and InDesign since its public beta; i had a CC subscription when it launched; canceled it last May when the intro price, $30/month, went up to $50; i doubt my situation is that uncommon -- i have a background and a small current sideline as a graphics professional, so i have occasional uses for InDesign, Acrobat, Photoshop Illustrator, but not quite enough to justify $600/year; that could change (i do a significant amount with QuarkXPress still, but my client supplies a license), and it's nice to think i can jump back into InDesign when needed without forking over full price; but by pricing me out, Adobe has caused me to use other tools and gradually lose my chops with the Adobe apps ... for example i do text with markdown and sometimes Pages, and i find Pixelmator is great for quick hack jobs on images (has layers, type, and a lot more, but is not nearly as precise, nor do i trust its color) when i did subscribe, i found i really disliked CC's required update tool on the Mac; and from a professional standpoint there are serious concerns about no recourse for version-specific bugs and incompatibilities -- one can't retain multiple versions of what the subscription supplies, as one could with the traditional license, and Adobe historically has taken years to fix significant bugs introduced by new versions overall Adobe doesn't have my confidence; its professional apps have a guaranteed market in the short term, but its long-term strategy seems to be focused on the consumer, not pro, market; i regret that Adobe ever dominated the market as it did, because that set us up for trouble when print publishing stopped being a growth industry -- for example, without Adobe's dominance i think it might have felt pressure to gradate prices depending on the subscribers' needs (student pricing is worth looking at, though) i do think if you need just Photoshop and LR and you qualify, $10/month is a pretty good price; LightRoom seems to have a growthful future both for pros and consumers, so it may be insulated from the market-dominance side effects as for hardware requirements, it depends on the type of documents you produce; with InDesign, longer and/or more complex documents can slow things down a lot, and benefit from faster machines; InDesign is not a lightweight application, i found the CC version slowish with moderately complex documents (2 pages, but hundreds of elements) on my quad-i7 laptop with 16GB RAM; the i5 vs i7 probably makes less difference than the amount of RAM and the speed of your drives; i understand newer iMacs use desktop versions of i5 i7 CPUs, which differ less in their performance than the mobile versions of the same; a large display is also helpful, as InDesign is very palette-happy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
on 2014-02-01 16:58 Bob Sullivan wrote And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every time. I believe that is bullshit. well, i do update Reader - it's a major vector for malware, and even if i doubt Adobe can close the holes fast enough, i do want the updates; i use Apple's Preview for most PDFs, but it has trouble with some PDF features -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography
And dark images on my monitor. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography Remarkable indeed! He seems to have a dark muse . . . . Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: His House In The Woods -project got some good press here in Scandinavia about a year ago. Interesting how he combines decay of man-made structures and animal photography. I love his image aestethics. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Bruce Walker Dato: 31. januar 2014 01:53 Til: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Emne: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography This Finnish photographer's stuff is really remarkable ... http://www.kafa.fi/pages/gallery1.php http://www.kafa.fi/pages/the-house-in-the-woods.php -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!
On 1/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years (aside from the weird processing required for the X sensors), and with the Sony A7, it's the placement of the EV Compensation dial. The right- rear corner is just wrong--I have to move my whole right hand to adjust EV compensation, and that's something I do all the time since I use aperture priority AE most of the time. The Sony allows me to re-map this control to the front dial, making it fall to hand easily like it is on the Olympus E-M1 and other cameras I own. I don't know whether that solution is possible on the Fuji. Interesting! I find moving the EV dial very easy with just my right thumb, without moving my right hand at all. Cat skin ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Maui Sunset
A bit punchy, but beautiful nonetheless. I would like to see it toned down just a bit. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, That's marvelous! Wonderfully colored and artistic. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The end of another perfect day in paradise: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New K-3 firmware update 1.01
Duh! And don't be like me and try for 15 minutes to upload the update to the camera thru the # 2 SD card port. Found out the hard way the updates have to be run through the #1 card port. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it Subject: Re: New K-3 firmware update 1.01 Direct page: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/k3_s.html -Messaggio originale- From: Dario Bonazza Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 8:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: New K-3 firmware update 1.01 http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/download_digital.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3462 / Database dei virus: 3658/6931 - Data di rilascio: 18/12/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO January faves
On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 03:57:55PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote: Larry, Joe's Bar is the best IMO. Some of the others cry out for better light to lift them from the snapshot category. Thanks for the feedback Ken. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO January faves Here are my best shots from January: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639425946344/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!
On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 1/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years (aside from the weird processing required for the X sensors), and with the Sony A7, it's the placement of the EV Compensation dial. The right- rear corner is just wrong--I have to move my whole right hand to adjust EV compensation, and that's something I do all the time since I use aperture priority AE most of the time. The Sony allows me to re-map this control to the front dial, making it fall to hand easily like it is on the Olympus E-M1 and other cameras I own. I don't know whether that solution is possible on the Fuji. Interesting! I find moving the EV dial very easy with just my right thumb, without moving my right hand at all. Cat skin ;-) Different size/shape hands, we probably hold the camera somewhat differently too. I can't seem to bend my thumb and move it precisely on a wheel in that location. I always end up taking the camera from my eye and looking at the dial to see what I'm doing, which gets in the way of my shooting workflow. Don't leave that cat skin laying about. I hear it broils up nicely and goes well with hat. ];-) (Ann will shoot me next time I see her… ) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Maui Sunset
Thanks, Bob and Bruce. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, That's marvelous! Wonderfully colored and artistic. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The end of another perfect day in paradise: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Maui Sunset
A rich scene, nicely composed. Paul via phone On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bob and Bruce. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, That's marvelous! Wonderfully colored and artistic. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The end of another perfect day in paradise: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Maui Sunset
Thanks, Paul. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A rich scene, nicely composed. Paul via phone On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bob and Bruce. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, That's marvelous! Wonderfully colored and artistic. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The end of another perfect day in paradise: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
on 2014-02-01 15:49 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote If I were doing occasional projects that needed these apps, that's exactly how I'd work it. And it would take a few years at $50/month for three/four months per year to equal even the single purchase of Creative Suite, never mind updates. you can't do a three/four months per year at $50/month - it is $75/month without a year's commitment Sure. Still not a problem. That's $300 for four months use, always with the latest. Creative Suite was like $1500 or so, so after you use it this way for five years, you've paid the equivalent of one CS price but no further update charges. CS would need a $500 update every 18 months or so on the perpetual license. To me that is a bargain if I'm getting the work I need done with it. you're right, that price would be attractive for the right customers; not much use to those like me who would have light usage not limited to specific months of the year as to how it compares to the old pricing model, there were strategies, such as updating every two or three versions (Adobe still discounted such upgrades), or keeping one or two apps more current with individual licenses, and deals such as the ID CS4 license i bought through Larry's Adobe contact, or the CS2 license i had via a local company with a 5-seat volume license … in other words there was relief for who didn't have a business case for the full price -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
on 2014-02-01 15:54 Matthew Hunt wrote On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:24 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: it doesn't tell you anything about the update, not even how big the download is, so you have to research it on your own; once you update, you can never go back It tells me something about the update: http://i.imgur.com/OzvioVo that, plus the size information, are much better than when i last used it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It's that time of year
Done! On 1/30/2014 4:56 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: For the bi-annual fund drive to keep the PDML going for another while. Please visit the PDML home page and drop a few drachmas* in the till. the masses will sing songs of your heroism in the days to come. Much love, Doug, List Guy and keeper of fundage, payer of billage. *not really. Use US funds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
From a photographic standpoint, a combination of LR and PSE will satisfy most needs. You can warp using the skew, free transform and liquify tools and later versions of PSE support masking directly. You could mask with earlier versions by linking an adjustment layer to a pixel layer. Add to that onOne software's Perfect Photo Suite and you have major retouch and masking capabilities. -p On 2/1/2014 3:52 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: None of these packages offer both layers, with all the Ps layer blending modes, and masks. The fact that Ps Elements lacks masking completely removes it from contention for retouching, for example. Even the fact it cannot warp a layer is a show-stopper. But if you really really must have Photoshop CS and the latest version, you have no choice but to suck it up and pay for the privilege. You do anyway if you buy a copy and then keep it updated properly with a perpetual license. I don't need the latest version. I need a capable version. CS5 suits me. My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Thanks, Steve. Good to have feedback from a user—or previous user. The points about RAM are well taken. I’ve heard about Adobe being slow to fix bugs—baffling in this digital-day-an-age. I agree about Adobe dominating the market—good point there. I have Pixelmator on the laptop and have played around with it. Interesting point you’ve made about the color. Cheers, Christine On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:37 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-02-01 9:50 Christine Aguila wrote Hi Everyone: Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud? Any thoughts, recommendations, or criticisms? Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for an enjoyable user experience? Ram, storage, et al. i have used Photoshop and Illustrator since the early 90s, and InDesign since its public beta; i had a CC subscription when it launched; canceled it last May when the intro price, $30/month, went up to $50; i doubt my situation is that uncommon — i have a background and a small current sideline as a graphics professional, so i have occasional uses for InDesign, Acrobat, Photoshop Illustrator, but not quite enough to justify $600/year; that could change (i do a significant amount with QuarkXPress still, but my client supplies a license), and it's nice to think i can jump back into InDesign when needed without forking over full price; but by pricing me out, Adobe has caused me to use other tools and gradually lose my chops with the Adobe apps … for example i do text with markdown and sometimes Pages, and i find Pixelmator is great for quick hack jobs on images (has layers, type, and a lot more, but is not nearly as precise, nor do i trust its color) when i did subscribe, i found i really disliked CC's required update tool on the Mac; and from a professional standpoint there are serious concerns about no recourse for version-specific bugs and incompatibilities — one can't retain multiple versions of what the subscription supplies, as one could with the traditional license, and Adobe historically has taken years to fix significant bugs introduced by new versions overall Adobe doesn't have my confidence; its professional apps have a guaranteed market in the short term, but its long-term strategy seems to be focused on the consumer, not pro, market; i regret that Adobe ever dominated the market as it did, because that set us up for trouble when print publishing stopped being a growth industry — for example, without Adobe's dominance i think it might have felt pressure to gradate prices depending on the subscribers' needs (student pricing is worth looking at, though) i do think if you need just Photoshop and LR and you qualify, $10/month is a pretty good price; LightRoom seems to have a growthful future both for pros and consumers, so it may be insulated from the market-dominance side effects as for hardware requirements, it depends on the type of documents you produce; with InDesign, longer and/or more complex documents can slow things down a lot, and benefit from faster machines; InDesign is not a lightweight application, i found the CC version slowish with moderately complex documents (2 pages, but hundreds of elements) on my quad-i7 laptop with 16GB RAM; the i5 vs i7 probably makes less difference than the amount of RAM and the speed of your drives; i understand newer iMacs use desktop versions of i5 i7 CPUs, which differ less in their performance than the mobile versions of the same; a large display is also helpful, as InDesign is very palette-happy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud
Well, if you have it and it does the job, why gripe about CC? I have PSCS 5.1 .. Does the job nicely, the little I use it. On that basis, CC doesn't bother me at all. Godfrey My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
