Re: PESO-A Young Lady on a Bike

2014-09-08 Thread Attila Boros
Nice panning!

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:17 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some images need to stay in colour:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/a-young-lady-on-bike.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Barred Owl

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Superb!

Paul via phone

 On Sep 7, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Jeffery Johnson 
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 While visiting Radnor Lake yesterday morning I was privileged to be allowed, 
 by one of the Barred Owls that call Radnor Lake home, to photograph it while 
 it was perched in a tree. At one point it flew down and then back up to the 
 same tree..
 
 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p339098354/e3c10426d
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Re: Back in the USA after the London PDML meet

2014-09-08 Thread mike wilson
Did you get to the museum?

On 7 September 2014 20:11, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 We had a nice PDML meet-up with Bob Walkden and Chris Mitchell last
 night. We gathered in Greenwich to consume food and beer/wine and talk
 about the rest of you behind your backs. Much fun was had but a full
 report and photos will have to wait as I discovered in the middle of
 the trip that I'm going to be teaching one extra class this semester,
 which begins tomorrow. Lots of work to do...

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Re: PESO: Barred Owl

2014-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
I have to say that I agree with ann's choice due to the lighting, however, I 
prefer the Owl's pose that you selected.

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Barred Owl

Hmmm
Your page loaded in firefox quickly -
this is my fave pose for you owl
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p339098354/h3C10426D#h18590c9c
because he looks so extra professorial I guess.

Nice to have a visit with him!

ann

On 9/7/2014 23:22, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
 While visiting Radnor Lake yesterday morning I was privileged to be
 allowed, by one of the Barred Owls that call Radnor Lake home, to
 photograph it while it was perched in a tree. At one point it flew down
 and then back up to the same tree..

 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p339098354/e3c10426d

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread P.J. Alling
I had nothing better to do so I watched it.  Not surprising, he is 
biased, in spite of his statement to the contrary, but so is everybody 
else.  To paraphrase; You need auto focus for portraits.  Bland 
statement, to which I say; No, not really, but Canon does have the least 
expensive moderately fast 50mm lens.


If there's a must have lens in a system, then that's the system you 
buy.  Unless of course you can't afford it.  Then you get the closest 
thing you can afford, and make do.


There, I boiled down his entire video into three sentences.

On 9/8/2014 1:55 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:


Link?



http://petapixel.com/2014/09/04/why-i-want-to-switch-to-nikon-but-cant-tony-northrup-throws-gas-on-the-canikon-debate/ 





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On 9/7/2014 11:51 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I will pass along this video, which was featured on PetaPixel. It is
by a Canon guy (who I guess is famous but I didn't know of him prior
to this) who was so impressed by the new Nikon that he was ready to
chuck all his Canon stuff and switch. Except... he couldn't. The
reasons why are interesting (and, I think, perhaps relevant to Pentax
DSLR users also).

Also interesting (if not controversial) is his use of DXO lens data to
make resolution comparions across platforms.

There is a fair amount to react to here, if the spirit moves you.
Watch the video with notepad in hand.
:)











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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks Brian and sorry to all. I must have been half-asleep already
when I posted that.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 Link?



 http://petapixel.com/2014/09/04/why-i-want-to-switch-to-nikon-but-cant-tony-northrup-throws-gas-on-the-canikon-debate/



 Cheers

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 On 9/7/2014 11:51 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 I will pass along this video, which was featured on PetaPixel. It is
 by a Canon guy (who I guess is famous but I didn't know of him prior
 to this) who was so impressed by the new Nikon that he was ready to
 chuck all his Canon stuff and switch. Except... he couldn't. The
 reasons why are interesting (and, I think, perhaps relevant to Pentax
 DSLR users also).

 Also interesting (if not controversial) is his use of DXO lens data to
 make resolution comparions across platforms.

 There is a fair amount to react to here, if the spirit moves you.
 Watch the video with notepad in hand.
 :)






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Re: GESO Entries

2014-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Frank

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:19 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 1 and 10 are brilliant. The rest are merely excellent!

 Cheers,

 frank

 On 7 September, 2014 10:10:56 AM EDT, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
I made my final decisions yesterday for my fair entries for this years
photo contest and as in previous years i did a gallery of those
photos.:

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2014-fair1/album/index.html

The BW category is self evident,
The digital category ones all start with a two digit number
the open colour and senior colour are all mixed into the crowd.:-)

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 There, I boiled down his entire video into three sentences.

This is why P.J. will never be a YouTube star. (Why use one word when
thirty will do?)
:)

I think that a lot of what he is going through is what Pentaxians
would/will be going through if/when Pentax ever offers a full frame
camera. You don't really realize how much you are taking advantage of
(relying on) the 1.5x focal length factor (actually equiv. FOV) of the
APS-C until you try to replicate your lenses on a full frame system.
To try to find lenses that still give you that focal length and
maximum aperture becomes an expensive proposition, when it is possible
at all.

Extreme example: DA* 200mm f2.8 can be bought for under $1K. (More
like $700, used) 300mm equiv. FOV on APS-C
Move to a full frame, now you need a 300mm f2.8 to replicate that FOV.
Price one of those lately? A Sigma is $3400. A more reasonable choice
would be a 300mm f4. You've replicated the FOV, but lost a full stop
of light.

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring. 
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy debating this 
stuff. 

Godfrey


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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread John

Well, FWIW, I never heard of him either.

On 9/8/2014 1:55 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:


Link?



http://petapixel.com/2014/09/04/why-i-want-to-switch-to-nikon-but-cant-tony-northrup-throws-gas-on-the-canikon-debate/




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On 9/7/2014 11:51 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I will pass along this video, which was featured on PetaPixel. It is
by a Canon guy (who I guess is famous but I didn't know of him prior
to this) who was so impressed by the new Nikon that he was ready to
chuck all his Canon stuff and switch. Except... he couldn't. The
reasons why are interesting (and, I think, perhaps relevant to Pentax
DSLR users also).

Also interesting (if not controversial) is his use of DXO lens data to
make resolution comparions across platforms.

There is a fair amount to react to here, if the spirit moves you.
Watch the video with notepad in hand.
:)










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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread John

Cure for insomnia?

On 9/8/2014 10:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy debating this 
stuff.

Godfrey




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Re: Geso - 2015 calendar work files

2014-09-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Ann,

I would vote off the following:
17 at MOMA
14 snapshooting
13 chihuahua
12 Midtown Holiday shoppers
8 Windows
3 cranes

Reasons: 3, 13, 14, 17 - not being in the same theme (NYC streets).
12 - I think this image is much weaker than the rest of your images
8 - I am on the fence with this one. While it is a curious image, for some 
reason I don't think I'd like this pm a ca;emdar .. probably because it's 
unresting.
3 - I found it being disturbing to my eye. At first, I even thought it was 
from 9/11.
However, on the 3rd and subsequent looks (on a larger screen), I don't 
have that feeling any more. So, it might be fine in the series.

13 - looks very low contrast, greyish, as if it was from an old film...
If it were mine, I would boost the contrast on it.

On the opposite end, these are the best from the bunch:
2 On the Williamsburg Bridge
5 Tour bus
15 fantasy world

I am fluctuating between liking and not-liking #16 From Hoboken.


I hope this helps.

Igor




 Ann Sanfedele Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:19:44 -0700

for My NYC street shot Calendar


Well I'm down to 16 -- need 12
Given that I may totally ignore your choices - can you help me decide?

About half of them are definitely in - but I won't say which ones.. maybe 
I'm wrong about them..



So have at it and please tell me which you would take out, not want to 
look at on your wall for a month, etc.



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-in-BW/

I've promised a friend I'd do a new flower calendar too - but that
one has a hook such that no one can see it until I get it done.

(hint- something the flowers have in common that isn't obvious to
a gardener or jsut nature lover - it will include a quiz)

Thanks for any help

ann

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Toralf Lund

On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy debating this 
stuff.


Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

- Toralf


Godfrey





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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Toralf Lund

On 08/09/14 16:11, Darren Addy wrote:

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

There, I boiled down his entire video into three sentences.

This is why P.J. will never be a YouTube star. (Why use one word when
thirty will do?)
:)

I think that a lot of what he is going through is what Pentaxians
would/will be going through if/when Pentax ever offers a full frame
camera. You don't really realize how much you are taking advantage of
(relying on) the 1.5x focal length factor (actually equiv. FOV) of the
APS-C until you try to replicate your lenses on a full frame system.
To try to find lenses that still give you that focal length and
maximum aperture becomes an expensive proposition, when it is possible
at all.

Extreme example: DA* 200mm f2.8 can be bought for under $1K. (More
like $700, used) 300mm equiv. FOV on APS-C
Move to a full frame, now you need a 300mm f2.8 to replicate that FOV.


Not really, if the full-frame camera gets an equivalent pixel density to the 
APS-C one(s). You might then use the 200mm as before, and crop by 1.5x in post 
processing, and get exactly the same result...

- T



Price one of those lately? A Sigma is $3400. A more reasonable choice
would be a 300mm f4. You've replicated the FOV, but lost a full stop
of light.




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Re: PESO-A Young Lady on a Bike

2014-09-08 Thread Don Guthrie

True that. And I like this photo. And BW would not be terrible.

On 9/7/14, 8:40 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:17:01 -0400
From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO-A Young Lady on a Bike
Message-ID:8a9a7038-ff2d-40b7-a253-1b3390de7...@email.android.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Some images need to stay in colour:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/a-young-lady-on-bike.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:

 On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
 I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy debating this 
 stuff.
 
 Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

You can waste your time debating anything you want. 
I'm not debating anything, just offering my opinion. 

G
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Re:GESO -- East Haven Festival (Auto Show)

2014-09-08 Thread Don Guthrie
Sadly these remind me I have not been to any car shows this summer. 
Happily these  really make me wish I had. So I am jealous  impressed.



On 9/7/14, 8:40 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:22:34 -0400
From: P.J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO -- East Haven Festival (Auto Show)
Message-ID:540d04da.5010...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

A small GESO from earlier today.  I stopped the East Haven Festival,
which on Sunday has traditionally had a car show.  These a the ones I
liked...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20red%26black1.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20red%26black2.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20blue.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20green1.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20green2.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20bus1.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20bus2.html



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Re: PESO: Barred Owl

2014-09-08 Thread Don Guthrie

And you made good use of your opportunity.


On 9/7/14, 11:02 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:22:44 -0500
From: Jeffery Johnsonjefferyjohn...@photocapturesbyjeffery.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Barred Owl
Message-ID:540d2104.2040...@photocapturesbyjeffery.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

While visiting Radnor Lake yesterday morning I was privileged to be
allowed, by one of the Barred Owls that call Radnor Lake home, to
photograph it while it was perched in a tree. At one point it flew down
and then back up to the same tree..

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p339098354/e3c10426d



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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Bryan Jacoby
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 To try to find lenses that still give you that focal length and
 maximum aperture becomes an expensive proposition, when it is possible
 at all.

 Extreme example: DA* 200mm f2.8 can be bought for under $1K. (More
 like $700, used) 300mm equiv. FOV on APS-C
 Move to a full frame, now you need a 300mm f2.8 to replicate that FOV.
 Price one of those lately? A Sigma is $3400. A more reasonable choice
 would be a 300mm f4. You've replicated the FOV, but lost a full stop
 of light.

Not really (I mean about losing the stop of light).  It's true that
f/4 on full frame will only produce an image half as bright on the
sensor compared to f/2.8 on APS-C, but that's half as bright in the
sense of photons per second _per unit area_.  The full frame sensor
has a little over twice the area, so it will actually be collecting
slightly more photons per second _over the whole image_, which is what
actually matters (or, another way to think of it is they will both get
the same number of photons per second per pixel if the two sensors
have the same number of pixels).And a 300 f/4 on full frame would
have about the depth of field as the 200 f/2.8 on APS-C.  So these two
scenarios are actually very comparable.

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Bryan Jacoby
The other side of the coin is that, to produce the same picture (same
depth of field and shutter speed), the full frame camera will only be
getting half as many photons per unit area, so has to shoot at 2x the
ISO of the crop camera.  So the common wisdom that you get a stop
extra ISO out of a full frame camera is true but misleading, because
you _need_ a stop higher ISO on full frame to produce the same image
as you would with an APS-C camera.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 To try to find lenses that still give you that focal length and
 maximum aperture becomes an expensive proposition, when it is possible
 at all.

 Extreme example: DA* 200mm f2.8 can be bought for under $1K. (More
 like $700, used) 300mm equiv. FOV on APS-C
 Move to a full frame, now you need a 300mm f2.8 to replicate that FOV.
 Price one of those lately? A Sigma is $3400. A more reasonable choice
 would be a 300mm f4. You've replicated the FOV, but lost a full stop
 of light.

 Not really (I mean about losing the stop of light).  It's true that
 f/4 on full frame will only produce an image half as bright on the
 sensor compared to f/2.8 on APS-C, but that's half as bright in the
 sense of photons per second _per unit area_.  The full frame sensor
 has a little over twice the area, so it will actually be collecting
 slightly more photons per second _over the whole image_, which is what
 actually matters (or, another way to think of it is they will both get
 the same number of photons per second per pixel if the two sensors
 have the same number of pixels).And a 300 f/4 on full frame would
 have about the depth of field as the 200 f/2.8 on APS-C.  So these two
 scenarios are actually very comparable.

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Re: Geso - 2015 calendar work files

2014-09-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Good points made, Igor
Bob W already had the uneasy feeling about the cranes and I can see 
that! Especially since I was here on 9/11 and it approaches again.
But at the time I produced it it was just my anger at the building going 
up in the place it did.. I'm more forgiving of that building now

because of the reflections it produces.

I'm giving all of these a 2nd third and fourth look and going back to 
dig for more that might work better.


One thing to remember (reminding myself too) is that basically I'm just 
going for 12 good photos taken in New York - title can come later -

and that since it is a wall calendar no one is looking at the photos
as a sequence - and I think a bit more variety is called for..
and I guess I should have it more upbeat than dark humor - save dark 
humor for a book perhaps.


The thing about doing the calendars is I don't have to spend anything 
but TIME.  cafepress supplies the bottoms and does some of the 
marketing.  I just have to design and load and say publish (on my 
shop)  but people can find the calendar on the general marketplace too.


For myself and one particular friend, I'll be doing and oversized 
calendar of pretty color stuff


Thanks for input - you and everyone
It really is a help

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On 9/8/2014 11:22, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Ann,

I would vote off the following:
17 at MOMA
14 snapshooting
13 chihuahua
12 Midtown Holiday shoppers
8 Windows
3 cranes

Reasons: 3, 13, 14, 17 - not being in the same theme (NYC streets).
12 - I think this image is much weaker than the rest of your images
8 - I am on the fence with this one. While it is a curious image, for
some reason I don't think I'd like this pm a ca;emdar .. probably
because it's unresting.
3 - I found it being disturbing to my eye. At first, I even thought it
was from 9/11.
However, on the 3rd and subsequent looks (on a larger screen), I don't
have that feeling any more. So, it might be fine in the series.
13 - looks very low contrast, greyish, as if it was from an old film...
If it were mine, I would boost the contrast on it.

On the opposite end, these are the best from the bunch:
2 On the Williamsburg Bridge
5 Tour bus
15 fantasy world

I am fluctuating between liking and not-liking #16 From Hoboken.


I hope this helps.

Igor




  Ann Sanfedele Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:19:44 -0700

for My NYC street shot Calendar


Well I'm down to 16 -- need 12
Given that I may totally ignore your choices - can you help me decide?

About half of them are definitely in - but I won't say which ones..
maybe I'm wrong about them..


So have at it and please tell me which you would take out, not want to
look at on your wall for a month, etc.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-in-BW/

I've promised a friend I'd do a new flower calendar too - but that
one has a hook such that no one can see it until I get it done.

(hint- something the flowers have in common that isn't obvious to
a gardener or jsut nature lover - it will include a quiz)

Thanks for any help

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
bangs head repeatedly against keyboard

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote:
 The other side of the coin is that, to produce the same picture (same
 depth of field and shutter speed), the full frame camera will only be
 getting half as many photons per unit area, so has to shoot at 2x the
 ISO of the crop camera.  So the common wisdom that you get a stop
 extra ISO out of a full frame camera is true but misleading, because
 you _need_ a stop higher ISO on full frame to produce the same image
 as you would with an APS-C camera.

 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 To try to find lenses that still give you that focal length and
 maximum aperture becomes an expensive proposition, when it is possible
 at all.

 Extreme example: DA* 200mm f2.8 can be bought for under $1K. (More
 like $700, used) 300mm equiv. FOV on APS-C
 Move to a full frame, now you need a 300mm f2.8 to replicate that FOV.
 Price one of those lately? A Sigma is $3400. A more reasonable choice
 would be a 300mm f4. You've replicated the FOV, but lost a full stop
 of light.

 Not really (I mean about losing the stop of light).  It's true that
 f/4 on full frame will only produce an image half as bright on the
 sensor compared to f/2.8 on APS-C, but that's half as bright in the
 sense of photons per second _per unit area_.  The full frame sensor
 has a little over twice the area, so it will actually be collecting
 slightly more photons per second _over the whole image_, which is what
 actually matters (or, another way to think of it is they will both get
 the same number of photons per second per pixel if the two sensors
 have the same number of pixels).And a 300 f/4 on full frame would
 have about the depth of field as the 200 f/2.8 on APS-C.  So these two
 scenarios are actually very comparable.

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Bryan Jacoby
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
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why?

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Re: PESO: Barred Owl

2014-09-08 Thread knarf
All wonderful photos but that first one is my favourite. Beautiful light, 
iconic pose.

Great shot!

Cheers,

frank

On 7 September, 2014 11:22:44 PM EDT, Jeffery Johnson 
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While visiting Radnor Lake yesterday morning I was privileged to be 
allowed, by one of the Barred Owls that call Radnor Lake home, to 
photograph it while it was perched in a tree. At one point it flew down

and then back up to the same tree..

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p339098354/e3c10426d

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?


Thats debatable.

Kenneth Waller
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From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net

Subject: Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...



On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy debating 
this stuff.


Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

- Toralf


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Re: PESO: Barred Owl

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

A very nice capture that would be even stronger in a portrait orientation.

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- Original Message - 
From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO: Barred Owl



And you made good use of your opportunity.


On 9/7/14, 11:02 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:22:44 -0500
From: Jeffery Johnsonjefferyjohn...@photocapturesbyjeffery.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Barred Owl
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While visiting Radnor Lake yesterday morning I was privileged to be
allowed, by one of the Barred Owls that call Radnor Lake home, to
photograph it while it was perched in a tree. At one point it flew down
and then back up to the same tree..

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p339098354/e3c10426d



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Re: GESO -- East Haven Festival (Auto Show)

2014-09-08 Thread knarf
Very nice set. That VeeDub micro bus looks like it's early into the restoration 
curve though.  ;-)

The rest are lovely.

Cheers,

frank

On 7 September, 2014 9:22:34 PM EDT, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
wrote:
A small GESO from earlier today.  I stopped the East Haven Festival, 
which on Sunday has traditionally had a car show.  These a the ones I 
liked...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20red%26black1.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20red%26black2.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20blue.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20green1.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20green2.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20bus1.html

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESOehf%28carshow%29/PESO%20---%20bus2.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II with either the M 85mm f2.0 or A 24mm f2.8, 
hover your cursor over the image to find out which if you're curious.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: PESOs/GESO - Buenos Aires at night

2014-09-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Thanks to all who looked and especially those who commented.

That part of the city indeed looks very much like any modern Western
(US/European) city looks like. I was actually a bit surprised by that, 
becauce from my previous trip, I remembered much more of other parts of 
the city, at daylight... both modern (but oldish), and now-very-touristy 
area called La Boca (where presumably tango has started.).


Many thanks to Dan who helped with the explanation of what that building 
was. (I was a bit busy over the past week.)


Yes, it is overly pink. But that light puts it into the area where it 
looks funny (or surreal) because of being so pink. (Although what humors 
me can sound strange to others.) It looks like one of those toy 
buildings/castles that I see being sold for girls in different variations.


John, - and that was part of why I kept all that pink strong.
If anything, I boosted up the contrast to make the colors pop-up a bit.


Attila,
Thank you for the idea about the bridge.
I don't think I have that much time (and energy) on hand to spend on a 
single photo... At least, not at the moment.


Igor



On Sat, 6 Sep 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi All!

In early August, I was in Buenos Aires.
I had an evening to walk around the city...
Here are a few photos of the night city views:
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsNight/_IR09721.html
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsNight/_IR09739.html
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsNight/_IR09743.html

And a very-very pink building:
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsNight/_IR09733.html


The entire gallery (16 photos) is here:
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsNight/

Comments and suggestions are invited.

Igor





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PESO - Quiet on the Lake

2014-09-08 Thread Rick Womer
I'm back in Philly and back at work, but I'm still in New Hampshire at the same 
time.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853810size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

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GESO: PHALABORWA Cars in the Park 2014

2014-09-08 Thread Alan C
Last Sat. there was a kind of Spring Fair in Phalaborwa, incorporating a 
Church Bazaar, an Orchid Show  Cars in the Park. (We had a Road Relay Race 
too, in which my Old Toppies team came stone last!) I had no idea there were 
so many old cars in Phalaborwa. I have only shown those more than 50 years 
old.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/sets/72157646966452287/

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Re: PESOs from lake Baikal

2014-09-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR


My apologies for the delayed response...

Thanks to many people who have commented on these photos
(Christine, John, Brian, Jack, Attila, Daniel, Tim, P.J.).

The place is spectacular, - but it is one of those spectacular areas that 
are more spectacular when you breeze and feel it, then can be transmitted 
via photos.


Tim: I also had a thought that similar view can be found alone some NorCal 
shores. But that's one of the things, - Baikal is such a huge lake.

I am hoping to sort the rest of the photos some time (soon?), and will
post some of those...

Sun Aug 31 03:03:02 EDT 2014 Brian Walters wrote:


Quoting Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org:

 PS. On the last photo, Brian and Rob might recognize the kangaroo hat
 I bought 4 years ago in Sydney.


That would be this one...

 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PDML_Sydney_Sep2010/slides/_IGP8520j.html


Yep! Exactly!

I've been wearing it since that much more than I expected... It is 
actually very comfortable. Unfortunately it might be ending soon, as it is
getting old. When it happens, that would be a sad moment... I doubt I'd be 
able to visit Sidney soon to replace it. But so far it's going strong.


Igor




On Sun, 31 Aug 2014, Igor Roshchin wrote:



PS. On the last photo, Brian and Rob might recognize the kangaroo hat
I bought 4 years ago in Sydney.

Igor



Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 01:16:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Roshchin


Hi All,

If anybody was wondering why I was silent recently, -
I happened to be at a scientific conference that was near the lake
Baikal -- the largest surface fresh-water reservoir in the world.
It holds about 20% of the world's fresh surface water - more water than
all of the North American Great Lakes combined. (WWF:
http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/where_we_work/lake_baikal/ )

Here is the First Crop (c):

http://42graphy.org/misc/Baikal/_IR20553.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/Baikal/_IR20662.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/Baikal/_IR20585.jpg

All comments are welcome!

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PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Correctly identified thanks to Alstair, a flower image from my June 
photography in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.


K3, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro A*, f5.6 @ 1/50, 400 ISO

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853813

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Re: PHALABORWA Cars in the Park 2014

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

Nice documentation of the car show !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Alan C c...@lantic.net

Subject: GESO: PHALABORWA Cars in the Park 2014


Last Sat. there was a kind of Spring Fair in Phalaborwa, incorporating a 
Church Bazaar, an Orchid Show  Cars in the Park. (We had a Road Relay 
Race too, in which my Old Toppies team came stone last!) I had no idea 
there were so many old cars in Phalaborwa. I have only shown those more 
than 50 years old.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/sets/72157646966452287/

Alan C

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Re: GESO: PHALABORWA Cars in the Park 2014

2014-09-08 Thread Bob W-PDML
Those MGs are lovely. 

Is the rubber-bumper MG B really over 50 years old? I thought they started 
putting those horrible bumpers on in the 70s (nearly 50 years already, where 
does it go?)

B

 On 8 Sep 2014, at 19:59, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 Last Sat. there was a kind of Spring Fair in Phalaborwa, incorporating a 
 Church Bazaar, an Orchid Show  Cars in the Park. (We had a Road Relay Race 
 too, in which my Old Toppies team came stone last!) I had no idea there were 
 so many old cars in Phalaborwa. I have only shown those more than 50 years 
 old.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/sets/72157646966452287/
 
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Re: PESO - Quiet on the Lake

2014-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Rick,
I couldn't resist cloning out those couple of tree tops below the boat and 
doing a crop of the bottom trees.
I'd probably do a portrait crop of the left side with the boat centered near 
the bottom.

Jack

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From: Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 11:54:33 AM
Subject: PESO - Quiet on the Lake

I'm back in Philly and back at work, but I'm still in New Hampshire at the same 
time.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853810size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments?

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Re: PESO - Quiet on the Lake

2014-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
I'd have a problem not doing a portrait crop of the left side. I'd place the 
boat in the center near the bottom, pull it up a bit
and clone out those two tree tops beneath the boat.
A clean image except for the lonesome boat.

Jack

- Original Message -
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To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
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Subject: PESO - Quiet on the Lake

I'm back in Philly and back at work, but I'm still in New Hampshire at the same 
time.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853810size=lg

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Comments?

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Re: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

2014-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Like the resolution balance in this case. However, the bud or(?) that appears 
to be touching a petal on the lower left of the blossom 
as well as the dark brown thing below it, detract.
The stem line is nice.

Jack

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Subject: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

Correctly identified thanks to Alstair, a flower image from my June 
photography in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

K3, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro A*, f5.6 @ 1/50, 400 ISO

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853813

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Re: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

2014-09-08 Thread knarf
Very pretty. 

Cheers,

frank

On 8 September, 2014 3:16:21 PM EDT, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Correctly identified thanks to Alstair, a flower image from my June 
photography in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

K3, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro A*, f5.6 @ 1/50, 400 ISO

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853813

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Re: PESO - Quiet on the Lake

2014-09-08 Thread knarf
Perfect.

Cheers,

frank

On 8 September, 2014 2:54:33 PM EDT, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm back in Philly and back at work, but I'm still in New Hampshire at
the same time.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853810size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments?

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Re: PESO strawberry

2014-09-08 Thread Larry Colen
Thanks a lot for the feedback.

Igor Roshchin wrote:
 Hi Larry,

 The picture on the face is interesting, but I don't think the strawberry
 fits into that picture.
 I don't know why: either the color gamma is wrong, the texture is
 different (smooth face vs. textured stawberry), the size is small, or
 something else.

 Of all photos with strawberries, the better one is probably LRC30829.
 But there are two things that could be improved:
 1. She should have a strong, definitive hold of that strawberry: holding
 the strawberry itself, not the green tail.
 (the same applies to all photos)
 2. Something is missing in the face expression.

 I think these are the best photos in this series:
 LRC30749
 LRC30720

 These could've been a nice shot showing the full picture, but the
 face expression is subpar on it: LRC30873.
 This face expression is much better: LRC30745, but there other problems
 here.

 HTH,

 Igor


 Larry Colen Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:59:30 -0700 wrote:

 A friend of mine does face painting and wanted to do a photo shoot with me to
 show off her work.  She got a mutual friend to be a model (you may recognize
 the the model from previous photos of mine).  The whole evening was very
 experimental and educational.  I felt like I was spending more effort fighting
 the lights and our limited time to shoot than I was just getting photos.


 Here's a photo  that despite it's problems, is still kind  of nice.  The fill
 flash and the hair light didn't trigger, but the resulting effect seems to 
 have
 worked.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/14578333810/in/set-72157645988395145


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Be careful what you wish for... Was: Asteroid to fly over New Zealand

2014-09-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Be careful what you wish for...
Some people wanted that asteroid to be closer...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29106843


Cheers,

Igor


On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Maybe it would be of interest to New-Zealand-based PDMLers:
an asteroid will be flying over you (under you? ;-) ) this Sunday:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-295

Cheers,

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Re: PESO strawberry

2014-09-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Wow!... such a delay in the echo!

Ping!...
;-)

Igor

Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com
Mon Sep 8 16:05:38 EDT 2014

Thanks a lot for the feedback.

Igor Roshchin wrote:

Hi Larry,

The picture on the face is interesting, but I don't think the strawberry
fits into that picture.
I don't know why: either the color gamma is wrong, the texture is
different (smooth face vs. textured stawberry), the size is small, or
something else.

Of all photos with strawberries, the better one is probably LRC30829.
But there are two things that could be improved:
1. She should have a strong, definitive hold of that strawberry: holding
the strawberry itself, not the green tail.
(the same applies to all photos)
2. Something is missing in the face expression.

I think these are the best photos in this series:
LRC30749
LRC30720

These could've been a nice shot showing the full picture, but the
face expression is subpar on it: LRC30873.
This face expression is much better: LRC30745, but there other problems
here.

HTH,

Igor


Larry Colen Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:59:30 -0700 wrote:

A friend of mine does face painting and wanted to do a photo shoot with 

me to
show off her work.  She got a mutual friend to be a model (you may 

recognize

the the model from previous photos of mine).  The whole evening was very
experimental and educational.  I felt like I was spending more effort 

fighting

the lights and our limited time to shoot than I was just getting photos.


Here's a photo  that despite it's problems, is still kind  of nice.  The 

fill
flash and the hair light didn't trigger, but the resulting effect seems 

to have

worked.



https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/14578333810/in/set-72157645988395145





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Re: Where in the world is Juan Buhler?

2014-09-08 Thread steve harley

on 2014-09-07 21:58 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote

I haven't heard from Juan for a while, but I located him just a few minutes 
ago. :-)


i have an old friend Jan (male) so i misstated Juan's name in my mention


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Re: Be careful what you wish for... Was: Asteroid to fly over New Zealand

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
The meteorobs guys are highly suspicious that this had anything to do
with a meteor.

Fireballs are reported every day all over the world that don't cause
known craters. No visible meteor was reported with this one (it should
have been ONE HECK of a visual). It is also in the neighborhood of a
military base AND in a country where a lot of ordinance was used in a
civil war not that many years ago.

I'm sure it would be in the government's interests to explain away an
explosion (to the public) as a meteorite, as opposed to much more
likely causes.



On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:

 Be careful what you wish for...
 Some people wanted that asteroid to be closer...

 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29106843


 Cheers,

 Igor


 On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



 Maybe it would be of interest to New-Zealand-based PDMLers:
 an asteroid will be flying over you (under you? ;-) ) this Sunday:
 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-295

 Cheers,

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread John

Y'all can go all sci-ency and prove either side of the argument. It still
boils down to Do you need it? Or do you just WANT it?

There's a difference.

I want it!


On 9/8/2014 12:33 PM, Bryan Jacoby wrote:

The other side of the coin is that, to produce the same picture (same
depth of field and shutter speed), the full frame camera will only be
getting half as many photons per unit area, so has to shoot at 2x the
ISO of the crop camera.  So the common wisdom that you get a stop
extra ISO out of a full frame camera is true but misleading, because
you _need_ a stop higher ISO on full frame to produce the same image
as you would with an APS-C camera.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Bryan Jacoby bryan.jac...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

To try to find lenses that still give you that focal length and
maximum aperture becomes an expensive proposition, when it is possible
at all.

Extreme example: DA* 200mm f2.8 can be bought for under $1K. (More
like $700, used) 300mm equiv. FOV on APS-C
Move to a full frame, now you need a 300mm f2.8 to replicate that FOV.
Price one of those lately? A Sigma is $3400. A more reasonable choice
would be a 300mm f4. You've replicated the FOV, but lost a full stop
of light.


Not really (I mean about losing the stop of light).  It's true that
f/4 on full frame will only produce an image half as bright on the
sensor compared to f/2.8 on APS-C, but that's half as bright in the
sense of photons per second _per unit area_.  The full frame sensor
has a little over twice the area, so it will actually be collecting
slightly more photons per second _over the whole image_, which is what
actually matters (or, another way to think of it is they will both get
the same number of photons per second per pixel if the two sensors
have the same number of pixels).And a 300 f/4 on full frame would
have about the depth of field as the 200 f/2.8 on APS-C.  So these two
scenarios are actually very comparable.




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Not very tall ships

2014-09-08 Thread Bob W-PDML
Greenwich has been horribly busy over the last few days, partly as a result of 
Mark! and Lisa! visiting, partly as a result of the Tall Ships Festival. 

The tall ships, what I saw of them, were rather disappointing, so mostly I got 
away from Greenwich to avoid the non-Mark! crowds.

I did take a handful of pictures, but I forgot that my camera was on manual and 
I didn't set the exposure. I managed to rescue this one, for what it's worth, 
with Lightroom's high contrast blue filter.

http://www.web-options.com/TallShips.jpg

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Re: Not very tall ships

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
Oooh... that lovely. Or as our friends from Yorkshire are wont to say
BRILLIANT!.
Hope you can rescue a few more!

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Greenwich has been horribly busy over the last few days, partly as a result 
 of Mark! and Lisa! visiting, partly as a result of the Tall Ships Festival.

 The tall ships, what I saw of them, were rather disappointing, so mostly I 
 got away from Greenwich to avoid the non-Mark! crowds.

 I did take a handful of pictures, but I forgot that my camera was on manual 
 and I didn't set the exposure. I managed to rescue this one, for what it's 
 worth, with Lightroom's high contrast blue filter.

 http://www.web-options.com/TallShips.jpg

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Re: GESO: PHALABORWA Cars in the Park 2014

2014-09-08 Thread John

I think your ~1967 MGC is really a MGB from at least a decade later.
AFAIK, the MGC was never sold in a rubber bumper version  it's the
wrong bonnet.

On 9/8/2014 2:58 PM, Alan C wrote:

Last Sat. there was a kind of Spring Fair in Phalaborwa, incorporating a
Church Bazaar, an Orchid Show  Cars in the Park. (We had a Road Relay
Race too, in which my Old Toppies team came stone last!) I had no idea
there were so many old cars in Phalaborwa. I have only shown those more
than 50 years old.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/sets/72157646966452287/

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Re: Peso: Bill's new toy

2014-09-08 Thread Bill

On 07/09/2014 10:24 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Just keep an eye on your airtime ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok6YrLN5L_k



These guys have even thought of that. The thing will automatically fly 
back to it's launch point when it is low on power.
Seriously, one would have to want to crash one of these if it was going 
to crash.


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Re: GESO: PHALABORWA Cars in the Park 2014

2014-09-08 Thread Bob W-PDML
The MG C also has a power bulge on the bonnet.

 On 8 Sep 2014, at 22:24, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I think your ~1967 MGC is really a MGB from at least a decade later.
 AFAIK, the MGC was never sold in a rubber bumper version  it's the
 wrong bonnet.
 
 On 9/8/2014 2:58 PM, Alan C wrote:
 Last Sat. there was a kind of Spring Fair in Phalaborwa, incorporating a
 Church Bazaar, an Orchid Show  Cars in the Park. (We had a Road Relay
 Race too, in which my Old Toppies team came stone last!) I had no idea
 there were so many old cars in Phalaborwa. I have only shown those more
 than 50 years old.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/sets/72157646966452287/
 
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Peso: Speaking of Strawberries

2014-09-08 Thread Jack Davis

When I read Larry's reference to strawberries, this oldy came to mind.
Shot on a lightbox with a hand held mirror.

Comments invited.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=812

ME Super w/M50mm f/1.4

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Re: Be careful what you wish for... Was: Asteroid to fly over New Zealand

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
Now a source: 
http://www.space.com/27071-nicaragua-meteorite-crater-impact-video.html



On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The meteorobs guys are highly suspicious that this had anything to do
 with a meteor.

 Fireballs are reported every day all over the world that don't cause
 known craters. No visible meteor was reported with this one (it should
 have been ONE HECK of a visual). It is also in the neighborhood of a
 military base AND in a country where a lot of ordinance was used in a
 civil war not that many years ago.

 I'm sure it would be in the government's interests to explain away an
 explosion (to the public) as a meteorite, as opposed to much more
 likely causes.



 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:

 Be careful what you wish for...
 Some people wanted that asteroid to be closer...

 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29106843


 Cheers,

 Igor


 On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



 Maybe it would be of interest to New-Zealand-based PDMLers:
 an asteroid will be flying over you (under you? ;-) ) this Sunday:
 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-295

 Cheers,

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Re: Peso: Speaking of Strawberries

2014-09-08 Thread JC OConnell

nice shot!
jco
On 9/8/2014 5:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

When I read Larry's reference to strawberries, this oldy came to mind.
Shot on a lightbox with a hand held mirror.

Comments invited.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=812

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Toralf Lund

On 08/09/14 18:03, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:


On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy debating this 
stuff.

Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

You can waste your time debating anything you want.
I'm not debating anything, just offering my opinion.
I didn't necessarily say you did, I was just wondering if this was the 
right room for an argument...


- T





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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Toralf Lund

On 08/09/14 20:04, Ken Waller wrote:

Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?


Thats debatable.


:-)

- Toralf


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net
Subject: Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...



On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy 
debating this stuff.


Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

- Toralf


Godfrey






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Re: Peso: Speaking of Strawberries

2014-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks,  JC!

Jack

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Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 3:11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Peso: Speaking of Strawberries

nice shot!
jco
On 9/8/2014 5:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 When I read Larry's reference to strawberries, this oldy came to mind.
 Shot on a lightbox with a hand held mirror.

 Comments invited.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=812

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Re: Peso: Speaking of Strawberries

2014-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
super

Dave

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:

 When I read Larry's reference to strawberries, this oldy came to mind.
 Shot on a lightbox with a hand held mirror.

 Comments invited.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=812

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ACDSEE for Pentax 3.0 - problems

2014-09-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I loaded this when I got the istD -
It has been acting up of late when I preview the jpgs -
what I need is not something that includes editing but
a simple way to go into each directory where my K-5 -or- any
files are viewable.  My first 1-t external drive seems to
be friend, fortunately I backed up on August 31st so now
I've got all my image files on a better seagate drive.

When I preview stuff I just need something in read only
but that quickly allows me to shift from thumbnails to
a larger view - but not full screen, showing me the file
number.

I don't ahve any images at all in the area called MY Pictures

I have all the recent on the E: in a master directory called ALL 
PENTAXSINCEJULY2013, and the sub-directories/folders are merely

the date I shot the photos - my preferred choice.

suggestions? acdsEE too frequently says it has encountered a problem and 
has to shut down.  that usually happens after I've been working
for a while, viewing lots of photos.. and working in Elements 5.0 at the 
same time.


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Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 and earlier Pentax DSLRs...

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
...is the size of the Operating Manuals. I'm serious! The previous
flagship (K-5 II/IIS) manual weighs in at 336 pages. The K-3's is
barely over 100 pages.

On the one hand, this makes the camera's operation appear to be a lot
less intimidating to operate, but that appearance is deceptive because
the new manual contains only a fraction of the info that was there
previously. In going through the K-3 menu pages: They give you the
default value (ONLY) and (most of the time) the page in the manual
that contains more info on that setting. But there are a LOT of
settings that don't have a page number with more info. Just a little 
- .

The fonts and illustrations are also much smaller. That can't account
for all of the lost pages, however. Even though I just shipped my K-5
II off to a new home, I've just printed out the manual for it so I can
try to figure out what is missing.

It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
manual in PDF on the software CD.

One example of how sparse the K-3 Manual documentation is: Storing
Frequently Used Settings (Page 202-208 of the K-5 II/IIS manual).This
is reduced to a page and a half (Pg 73  74) in the K-3 manual.

This newfound brevity is also much less detailed. For example, Slow
Shutter Speed NR is one of those menu items that now has a hyphen,
rather than a page in the manual with more info. All it says in the
K-3 manual is Sets the Noise Reduction setting when shooting with a
slow shutter speed. A reasonable person might ask, What do they
consider a slow shutter speed?. The K-5 II/IIS manual has a page
(87) devoted to this setting, explaining the difference between the
options of Auto, On, and Off. (There are some significant
differences between Auto  On.) The K-3 manual says nothing.

It is funny that this bothers me, because I'm typically a guy who
doesn't read manuals. The Pentax is certainly useable without reading
the manual and if you have been shooting Pentax for a while you
already probably know what most of the settings do. But there are also
so many options (some of which are greyed out when in certain
settings) that in order to take full advantage of the camera and to
set it up the way I want to work I feel like I need that information.

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Re: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 and earlier Pentax DSLRs...

2014-09-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
As one who has ADHD reading manuals, at least more than a page at a time, is 
difficult. Most of my knowledge of my K-5 workings were discovered using the 
thing, sometimes experamenting, sometime looking it up in the manual (which is 
always at home). 

Try it! It's like getting a new camera every few weeks. Well, new features, 
anyway…

JJM

On Sep 8, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 ...is the size of the Operating Manuals. I'm serious! The previous
 flagship (K-5 II/IIS) manual weighs in at 336 pages. The K-3's is
 barely over 100 pages.
 
 On the one hand, this makes the camera's operation appear to be a lot
 less intimidating to operate, but that appearance is deceptive because
 the new manual contains only a fraction of the info that was there
 previously. In going through the K-3 menu pages: They give you the
 default value (ONLY) and (most of the time) the page in the manual
 that contains more info on that setting. But there are a LOT of
 settings that don't have a page number with more info. Just a little 
 - .
 
 The fonts and illustrations are also much smaller. That can't account
 for all of the lost pages, however. Even though I just shipped my K-5
 II off to a new home, I've just printed out the manual for it so I can
 try to figure out what is missing.
 
 It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
 smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
 manual in PDF on the software CD.
 
 One example of how sparse the K-3 Manual documentation is: Storing
 Frequently Used Settings (Page 202-208 of the K-5 II/IIS manual).This
 is reduced to a page and a half (Pg 73  74) in the K-3 manual.
 
 This newfound brevity is also much less detailed. For example, Slow
 Shutter Speed NR is one of those menu items that now has a hyphen,
 rather than a page in the manual with more info. All it says in the
 K-3 manual is Sets the Noise Reduction setting when shooting with a
 slow shutter speed. A reasonable person might ask, What do they
 consider a slow shutter speed?. The K-5 II/IIS manual has a page
 (87) devoted to this setting, explaining the difference between the
 options of Auto, On, and Off. (There are some significant
 differences between Auto  On.) The K-3 manual says nothing.
 
 It is funny that this bothers me, because I'm typically a guy who
 doesn't read manuals. The Pentax is certainly useable without reading
 the manual and if you have been shooting Pentax for a while you
 already probably know what most of the settings do. But there are also
 so many options (some of which are greyed out when in certain
 settings) that in order to take full advantage of the camera and to
 set it up the way I want to work I feel like I need that information.
 
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Nikon bigot reviews 645z with mixed results

2014-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Has a few wild rants, eg suggesting that Nikons don't have modal
dials, but decides image quality may in fact be worth it.

http://www.thecamerastore.com/blog/average-normal-photographer-review-of-the-ricoh-pentax-645z.aspx

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Re: Nikon bigot reviews 645z with mixed results

2014-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
Piggybacking on Bruce's post, you may have seen that the new Mamiya
medium format back/camera was announced today:
http://www.mamiyaleaf.com/credo50.html

It is the same sensor found in the Pentax 645D, but at a price of
nearly 4x. For the same moola I would hazard to suggest that if you
have Mamiya 645 glass you could sell it, pick up some Pentax 645 glass
and the 645z and still have enough left over for a nice photo safari
to a distant land where you could put the 645z to WORK.

Oh, also? Instead of the Mamiya's 100-6400 ISO you could get the
645z's ISO Sensitivity Range of 100 - 204,800. (And they have the guts
to call theirs a  high iso single-shot capture device. Both feature
a 3.2 LCD. The 645z can capture JPEGs at 3 FPS and the Mamiya only
1.2 (though it doesn't specify if that is RAW or JPEG).

Crikey.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has a few wild rants, eg suggesting that Nikons don't have modal
 dials, but decides image quality may in fact be worth it.

 http://www.thecamerastore.com/blog/average-normal-photographer-review-of-the-ricoh-pentax-645z.aspx

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Re: Peso: Speaking of Strawberries

2014-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Nice of you, Dave. Thanks!

Jack

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To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 3:45:55 PM
Subject: Re: Peso: Speaking of Strawberries

super

Dave

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:

 When I read Larry's reference to strawberries, this oldy came to mind.
 Shot on a lightbox with a hand held mirror.

 Comments invited.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=812

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Re: ACDSEE for Pentax 3.0 - problems

2014-09-08 Thread P.J. Alling
Irfanview, it's idiosyncratic as hell, with a user interface that only 
it's mother could love, but it will read pretty much every image file 
known to man, has a customizable thumbnail viewer allows you to define 
three external editors to open your files in, and is extendable with 
Photoshop compatible plugins.  Oh, and it's a free download.  Plus it 
will let you generate humungous screen saver files of your images as 
well as standalone slideshows.  It's single drawback is it's a Windows 
only program.


http://www.irfanview.com/

Oh, yes, if your PEF/DNG files manage to get borked so bad that even 
Pentax Digital Camera Utility barfs when trying to open them, it can 
sometimes at least extract the imbedded jpeg which may be good enough 
for web use.


On 9/8/2014 6:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I loaded this when I got the istD -
It has been acting up of late when I preview the jpgs -
what I need is not something that includes editing but
a simple way to go into each directory where my K-5 -or- any
files are viewable.  My first 1-t external drive seems to
be friend, fortunately I backed up on August 31st so now
I've got all my image files on a better seagate drive.

When I preview stuff I just need something in read only
but that quickly allows me to shift from thumbnails to
a larger view - but not full screen, showing me the file
number.

I don't ahve any images at all in the area called MY Pictures

I have all the recent on the E: in a master directory called ALL 
PENTAXSINCEJULY2013, and the sub-directories/folders are merely

the date I shot the photos - my preferred choice.

suggestions? acdsEE too frequently says it has encountered a problem 
and has to shut down.  that usually happens after I've been working
for a while, viewing lots of photos.. and working in Elements 5.0 at 
the same time.


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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
I didn't necessarily say you did, I was just wondering if this was the 
right room for an argument...


The argument room is down the hall on the left.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net

Subject: Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...



On 08/09/14 18:03, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:


On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy debating 
this stuff.

Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

You can waste your time debating anything you want.
I'm not debating anything, just offering my opinion.
I didn't necessarily say you did, I was just wondering if this was the 
right room for an argument...


- T





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Re: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 and earlierPentax DSLRs...

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
manual in PDF on the software CD.


Which is totally useless when in the field and an issue pops up. I carry a 
paper manual with me at all time when I have my DSLR with me.


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- Original Message - 
From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
Subject: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 and 
earlierPentax DSLRs...




...is the size of the Operating Manuals. I'm serious! The previous
flagship (K-5 II/IIS) manual weighs in at 336 pages. The K-3's is
barely over 100 pages.

On the one hand, this makes the camera's operation appear to be a lot
less intimidating to operate, but that appearance is deceptive because
the new manual contains only a fraction of the info that was there
previously. In going through the K-3 menu pages: They give you the
default value (ONLY) and (most of the time) the page in the manual
that contains more info on that setting. But there are a LOT of
settings that don't have a page number with more info. Just a little 
- .

The fonts and illustrations are also much smaller. That can't account
for all of the lost pages, however. Even though I just shipped my K-5
II off to a new home, I've just printed out the manual for it so I can
try to figure out what is missing.

It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
manual in PDF on the software CD.

One example of how sparse the K-3 Manual documentation is: Storing
Frequently Used Settings (Page 202-208 of the K-5 II/IIS manual).This
is reduced to a page and a half (Pg 73  74) in the K-3 manual.

This newfound brevity is also much less detailed. For example, Slow
Shutter Speed NR is one of those menu items that now has a hyphen,
rather than a page in the manual with more info. All it says in the
K-3 manual is Sets the Noise Reduction setting when shooting with a
slow shutter speed. A reasonable person might ask, What do they
consider a slow shutter speed?. The K-5 II/IIS manual has a page
(87) devoted to this setting, explaining the difference between the
options of Auto, On, and Off. (There are some significant
differences between Auto  On.) The K-3 manual says nothing.

It is funny that this bothers me, because I'm typically a guy who
doesn't read manuals. The Pentax is certainly useable without reading
the manual and if you have been shooting Pentax for a while you
already probably know what most of the settings do. But there are also
so many options (some of which are greyed out when in certain
settings) that in order to take full advantage of the camera and to
set it up the way I want to work I feel like I need that information.

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Re: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'


Like the resolution balance in this case. However, the bud or(?) that 
appears to be touching a petal on the lower left of the blossom

as well as the dark brown thing below it, detract.
The stem line is nice.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 12:16:21 PM
Subject: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

Correctly identified thanks to Alstair, a flower image from my June
photography in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

K3, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro A*, f5.6 @ 1/50, 400 ISO

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853813

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Re: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks for your comments Jack.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'


Like the resolution balance in this case. However, the bud or(?) that 
appears to be touching a petal on the lower left of the blossom

as well as the dark brown thing below it, detract.
The stem line is nice.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 12:16:21 PM
Subject: PESO - 'Lone Geranium'

Correctly identified thanks to Alstair, a flower image from my June
photography in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

K3, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro A*, f5.6 @ 1/50, 400 ISO

Comments appreciated.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853813

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 and earlierPentax DSLRs...

2014-09-08 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:


It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
manual in PDF on the software CD.


Which is totally useless when in the field and an issue pops up.



Not necessarily.  I have pdf versions of all manuals loaded on my  
Samsung tablet - much more compact than paper manuals and just as  
accessible (more so, actually, because you can do a search for the  
topic you're wanting info on).


My camera bag has a dedicated pocket for a 10in tablet which keeps it  
safe against possible damage.



Cheers

Brian

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I carry a paper manual with me at all time when I have my DSLR with me.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
Subject: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 and  
earlierPentax DSLRs...




...is the size of the Operating Manuals. I'm serious! The previous
flagship (K-5 II/IIS) manual weighs in at 336 pages. The K-3's is
barely over 100 pages.

On the one hand, this makes the camera's operation appear to be a lot
less intimidating to operate, but that appearance is deceptive because
the new manual contains only a fraction of the info that was there
previously. In going through the K-3 menu pages: They give you the
default value (ONLY) and (most of the time) the page in the manual
that contains more info on that setting. But there are a LOT of
settings that don't have a page number with more info. Just a little 
- .

The fonts and illustrations are also much smaller. That can't account
for all of the lost pages, however. Even though I just shipped my K-5
II off to a new home, I've just printed out the manual for it so I can
try to figure out what is missing.

It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
manual in PDF on the software CD.

One example of how sparse the K-3 Manual documentation is: Storing
Frequently Used Settings (Page 202-208 of the K-5 II/IIS manual).This
is reduced to a page and a half (Pg 73  74) in the K-3 manual.

This newfound brevity is also much less detailed. For example, Slow
Shutter Speed NR is one of those menu items that now has a hyphen,
rather than a page in the manual with more info. All it says in the
K-3 manual is Sets the Noise Reduction setting when shooting with a
slow shutter speed. A reasonable person might ask, What do they
consider a slow shutter speed?. The K-5 II/IIS manual has a page
(87) devoted to this setting, explaining the difference between the
options of Auto, On, and Off. (There are some significant
differences between Auto  On.) The K-3 manual says nothing.

It is funny that this bothers me, because I'm typically a guy who
doesn't read manuals. The Pentax is certainly useable without reading
the manual and if you have been shooting Pentax for a while you
already probably know what most of the settings do. But there are also
so many options (some of which are greyed out when in certain
settings) that in order to take full advantage of the camera and to
set it up the way I want to work I feel like I need that information.

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:

I didn't necessarily say you did, I was just wondering if this was  
the right room for an argument...


The argument room is down the hall on the left.



No it isn't...

(someone was bound to say that - it might as well be me!)


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- Original Message - From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net
Subject: Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...



On 08/09/14 18:03, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:


On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy  
debating this stuff.

Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

You can waste your time debating anything you want.
I'm not debating anything, just offering my opinion.
I didn't necessarily say you did, I was just wondering if this was  
the right room for an argument...


- T





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Re: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 andearlierPentax DSLRs...

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Not necessarily.  I have pdf versions of all manuals loaded on my  Samsung 
tablet


More stuff to lug around in the field. Recent Pentax operating manuals 
easily fit in the Tamrac backpack I use and don't require recharging.


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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
Subject: Re: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 
andearlierPentax DSLRs...




Quoting Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:


It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
manual in PDF on the software CD.


Which is totally useless when in the field and an issue pops up.



Not necessarily.  I have pdf versions of all manuals loaded on my  Samsung 
tablet - much more compact than paper manuals and just as  accessible 
(more so, actually, because you can do a search for the  topic you're 
wanting info on).


My camera bag has a dedicated pocket for a 10in tablet which keeps it 
safe against possible damage.



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
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I carry a paper manual with me at all time when I have my DSLR with me.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
Subject: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 and 
earlierPentax DSLRs...




...is the size of the Operating Manuals. I'm serious! The previous
flagship (K-5 II/IIS) manual weighs in at 336 pages. The K-3's is
barely over 100 pages.

On the one hand, this makes the camera's operation appear to be a lot
less intimidating to operate, but that appearance is deceptive because
the new manual contains only a fraction of the info that was there
previously. In going through the K-3 menu pages: They give you the
default value (ONLY) and (most of the time) the page in the manual
that contains more info on that setting. But there are a LOT of
settings that don't have a page number with more info. Just a little 
- .

The fonts and illustrations are also much smaller. That can't account
for all of the lost pages, however. Even though I just shipped my K-5
II off to a new home, I've just printed out the manual for it so I can
try to figure out what is missing.

It seems to me that a more reasonable approach might be to call the
smaller manual the QuickStart Guide and then have the full user's
manual in PDF on the software CD.

One example of how sparse the K-3 Manual documentation is: Storing
Frequently Used Settings (Page 202-208 of the K-5 II/IIS manual).This
is reduced to a page and a half (Pg 73  74) in the K-3 manual.

This newfound brevity is also much less detailed. For example, Slow
Shutter Speed NR is one of those menu items that now has a hyphen,
rather than a page in the manual with more info. All it says in the
K-3 manual is Sets the Noise Reduction setting when shooting with a
slow shutter speed. A reasonable person might ask, What do they
consider a slow shutter speed?. The K-5 II/IIS manual has a page
(87) devoted to this setting, explaining the difference between the
options of Auto, On, and Off. (There are some significant
differences between Auto  On.) The K-3 manual says nothing.

It is funny that this bothers me, because I'm typically a guy who
doesn't read manuals. The Pentax is certainly useable without reading
the manual and if you have been shooting Pentax for a while you
already probably know what most of the settings do. But there are also
so many options (some of which are greyed out when in certain
settings) that in order to take full advantage of the camera and to
set it up the way I want to work I feel like I need that information.

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Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

No it isn't...


That'll be $1.50 per minute.

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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org

Subject: Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...



Quoting Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:

I didn't necessarily say you did, I was just wondering if this was  
the right room for an argument...


The argument room is down the hall on the left.



No it isn't...

(someone was bound to say that - it might as well be me!)


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- Original Message - From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net
Subject: Re: OT? In case you are having some insomnia tonight...



On 08/09/14 18:03, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:


On 08/09/14 16:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I tried to watch the video but it put me to sleep it's so boring.
I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time and energy  
debating this stuff.

Is it OK to debate whether we ought to debate it?

You can waste your time debating anything you want.
I'm not debating anything, just offering my opinion.
I didn't necessarily say you did, I was just wondering if this was  
the right room for an argument...


- T





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Re: Is this a rant? The biggest difference between the K-3 andearlierPentax DSLRs...

2014-09-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's no more stuff to carry around for me. I always have my iPad mini with me 
anyway ... It's light and I use it all the time. I have manuals, notes, and 
photo tools on it that are very useful in the field. 

Godfrey

On Sep 8, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Not necessarily.  I have pdf versions of all manuals loaded on my  Samsung 
 tablet
 
 More stuff to lug around in the field. Recent Pentax operating manuals easily 
 fit in the Tamrac backpack I use and don't require recharging.

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Re: PESO - Quiet on the Lake

2014-09-08 Thread David Mann
To my eye the texture in the the top half of the photo looks as though you're 
looking directly down on the lake from above.  This really confuses me 
considering the perspective of the trees.  It's as if you're channeling 
Picasso.  I like the effect... I think :)

Cheers,
Dave

On Sep 9, 2014, at 6:54 am, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm back in Philly and back at work, but I'm still in New Hampshire at the 
 same time.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17853810size=lg
 
 (K-5, DA 16-45)
 
 Comments?
 
 Rick
 
 
 
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