Re: PESO - Paddington Street Gardens
On 23 July 2015 at 18:20, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Bob S: I've spent about 2 years living in the UK, so have enjoyed a bit of it's weather. Just jerking Chris M's chain, or feeding his delusions (not sure of the state of his reality testing). My reality needs no testing - as I was saying to the mermaid in my bathroom this morning. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Biking with Karin and Chris
Love those last 3... cause I like to laugh ann On 7/23/2015 4:46 PM, Bob W wrote: Here's my side of the story. Any resemblance between Chris's pictures and mine is purely coincidental. http://www.web-options.com/Cotswolds2015/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom
That's rather deceptive. I thought it was the official Pentax made model, from the description. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on the way the original Pentax hood does, which means it can’t be mounted on the lens backward, which was very convenient when the lens is not in use. I may get a chance to try these disposable hoods yet. Eric On Jul 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eric, I have seen this rubberised foam sheets - about 1 to 2 mm thick and as light as a feather - at Michaels, Wall Mart and other craft stores. Paid 89 cents for a sheet. Here in India it is dirt cheap. Comes in one side black and the other side white, full black or full white. Kids use them for school projects and here in India I see them sold on the road side as shoe insole inserts. You print the lens hood on paper and then use it as a template on your rubberised foam sheet. There is an exact name for this sheet, just that I can't remember. I have also used it for making flash diffuser and bounce card. Regards. Bipin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom
On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's rather deceptive. I thought it was the official Pentax made model, from the description. So did I. Though disappointed, I appreciate your calling it to my attention in the first place. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “...we are a form of invitation to others and to otherness... - David Whyte -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom
Yeah, shoulda read more carefully. I might still have hoped that it functioned the way the Pentax hood functions, though. On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: This bit of the item name ...Pro Digital Lens Hood (Flower Design) (67mm)... made me think it wasn't the genuine hood. On 23 July 2015 at 22:31, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's rather deceptive. I thought it was the official Pentax made model, from the description. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on the way the original Pentax hood does, which means it can’t be mounted on the lens backward, which was very convenient when the lens is not in use. I may get a chance to try these disposable hoods yet. Eric On Jul 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eric, I have seen this rubberised foam sheets - about 1 to 2 mm thick and as light as a feather - at Michaels, Wall Mart and other craft stores. Paid 89 cents for a sheet. Here in India it is dirt cheap. Comes in one side black and the other side white, full black or full white. Kids use them for school projects and here in India I see them sold on the road side as shoe insole inserts. You print the lens hood on paper and then use it as a template on your rubberised foam sheet. There is an exact name for this sheet, just that I can't remember. I have also used it for making flash diffuser and bounce card. Regards. Bipin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “...we are a form of invitation to others and to otherness... - David Whyte -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
Similarily, there are single element 'close up' lenses that are only one element like a filter and they screw on like a filter but are called lenses. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: What's in the name? I understand that Igor. Despite what evidences of ignorance I may post here, I do know the difference between a lens and a filter. I had assumed that the terminology originated when it was first applied to a lens that had the polarizing built into the lens itself, and that was later replaced by a filter that could be uses on any lens of an appropriate diameter. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Dan, And I assume you know why that would be incorrect usage? Because (hopefully!) no lensing occurs in a filter (which is supposed to have flat, plane-parallel surfaces). Cheers, Igor Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 23 Jul 2015 07:36:01 -0700 wrote: I thought that PL stood for polarizing lens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: ... Now, my 3 guesses that I mentioned yesterday but didn't write to avoid any bias were: lens, light, and luminescence that would be in the scientific term circularly polarized luminescence. Obviously, none of these would be correct in CPL filter. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hood for 16-45/4
On Jul 23, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: $22.95 shipping included. Make that $26.90. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “...we are a form of invitation to others and to otherness... - David Whyte -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Biking with Karin and Chris
Here's my side of the story. Any resemblance between Chris's pictures and mine is purely coincidental. http://www.web-options.com/Cotswolds2015/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Working Under Cover
In Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18058362 K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Thanks, Steve. That looks like the right kind of thing. My only question is packing it for an overseas trip. Given your experience, could the bag be collapsed/compressed for packing into a carryon or checked duffle bag. I *just* got it. However the external mount attached to the bag is small, the bicycle mount portions would fit inside of it, and if you fill the space in the bag not used by camera or bike gear with socks and underwear, the fabric of the bag shouldn't take up much space. Thanks, Larry. This is the most attractive option so far. Let me know what you think of it after you’ve had some experience with it. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “...we are a form of invitation to others and to otherness... - David Whyte -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hood for 16-45/4
On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:20 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: too late for Erik, but the 17-70 hood apparently works well on the 16-45 and is $23 at BH; one can imagine a perfect 17mm hood would cause slight vignetting wide open at 16mm, but i'd be surprised if the hood is perfect, or that it matters http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/618597-REG/Pentax_38763_PH_RBM67_Lens_Hood_for.html It’s on it’s way, Steve. $22.95 shipping included. I may still give Bipin’s printed hood a try. Would be very convenient for travel. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “...we are a form of invitation to others and to otherness... - David Whyte -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Eric Weir wrote: Looks like I’m going to be on a bike for several days while in Italy. Wondering about carrying a camera, in my case a K5, on a bicycle on a bicycle tour. Especially balancing protecting the camera while underway with accessibility to the camera for taking photos. Suggestions? Special equipment? I just bought one myself. Ibera makes two sizes, I went for the larger one: http://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Clip-On-Quick-Release-Bicycle-Handlebar/dp/B0097DUIOE They also have a smaller one. http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Release-Handlebar-Shoulder-Dividers-Reflective/dp/B00GYGCKY8/ref=pd_sim_468_3?ie=UTF8refRID=0S4K2DRGMDQ3S4X4Y6XV Thanks, Steve. That looks like the right kind of thing. My only question is packing it for an overseas trip. Given your experience, could the bag be collapsed/compressed for packing into a carryon or checked duffle bag. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom
On 2015-07-23 15:36 , steve harley wrote: i would send it back and get the one for the 17-70; you'll save money even with return shipping i should say, i haven't tried the 17-70 hood, but i found a discussion or review that said it would work just like the regular hood (e.g. reversible); i would confirm that with another source before ordering -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Steve. Sorry, Larry. “Thanks, Larry! -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
Eric Weir wrote: On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: Eric Weir wrote: Looks like I’m going to be on a bike for several days while in Italy. Wondering about carrying a camera, in my case a K5, on a bicycle on a bicycle tour. Especially balancing protecting the camera while underway with accessibility to the camera for taking photos. Suggestions? Special equipment? I just bought one myself. Ibera makes two sizes, I went for the larger one: http://www.amazon.com/Ibera-Clip-On-Quick-Release-Bicycle-Handlebar/dp/B0097DUIOE They also have a smaller one. http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Release-Handlebar-Shoulder-Dividers-Reflective/dp/B00GYGCKY8/ref=pd_sim_468_3?ie=UTF8refRID=0S4K2DRGMDQ3S4X4Y6XV Thanks, Steve. That looks like the right kind of thing. My only question is packing it for an overseas trip. Given your experience, could the bag be collapsed/compressed for packing into a carryon or checked duffle bag. I *just* got it. However the external mount attached to the bag is small, the bicycle mount portions would fit inside of it, and if you fill the space in the bag not used by camera or bike gear with socks and underwear, the fabric of the bag shouldn't take up much space. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom
This bit of the item name ...Pro Digital Lens Hood (Flower Design) (67mm)... made me think it wasn't the genuine hood. On 23 July 2015 at 22:31, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's rather deceptive. I thought it was the official Pentax made model, from the description. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on the way the original Pentax hood does, which means it can’t be mounted on the lens backward, which was very convenient when the lens is not in use. I may get a chance to try these disposable hoods yet. Eric On Jul 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eric, I have seen this rubberised foam sheets - about 1 to 2 mm thick and as light as a feather - at Michaels, Wall Mart and other craft stores. Paid 89 cents for a sheet. Here in India it is dirt cheap. Comes in one side black and the other side white, full black or full white. Kids use them for school projects and here in India I see them sold on the road side as shoe insole inserts. You print the lens hood on paper and then use it as a template on your rubberised foam sheet. There is an exact name for this sheet, just that I can't remember. I have also used it for making flash diffuser and bounce card. Regards. Bipin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Working Under Cover
We were there in mid-May. I was warm, but not especially hot. I was outdoors from 8:00 AM until sundown, without a hat, and I was not really uncomfortable. f course, I was not wearing a uniform. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 July 2015 at 22:10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18058362 K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. I guess it was hot? When I went in Feb 2012 it was pretty cold; the moat around the forbidden city, and the lakes in the parks were frozen. Badaling high up in the hills was icy windy. Still all a very enjoyable experience though. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
stealing lines from Carlin are ya.. ann On 7/23/2015 1:17 PM, John wrote: ... and why do people park their cars in driveways drive them on parkways? On 7/23/2015 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hood for 16-45/4
On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:20 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: too late for Erik, but the 17-70 hood apparently works well on the 16-45 and is $23 at BH; one can imagine a perfect 17mm hood would cause slight vignetting wide open at 16mm, but i'd be surprised if the hood is perfect, or that it matters http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/618597-REG/Pentax_38763_PH_RBM67_Lens_Hood_for.html Damn, Steve. This is even cheaper than the one I got from NewEgg. Thanks again. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:35 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: OP/TECH Stabilizer Strap. http://optechusa.com/straps/stabilizer-strap.html Thanks, John. I have it. I bought it for the walk I did in England back in September of 2013. I ended up leaving it in my duffle bag and carrying the camera in my hand. Even with a light weight lens—A 28/2.8—having the weight of the camera on my neck 8-10 hours everyday got to be pretty tiresome, even a little painful. I find carrying the camera in my hand to be convenient. I always do so on hikes in the North Georgia mountains. I wrap the shoulder strap around my wrist, so even if I let go of the camera it doesn’t fall to the ground. It certainly makes the camera very accessible, and I don’t find it awkward at all. Of course, if I were to take a full body fall, as I have a couple times, the camera is at risk. But that’s the case pretty much however you carry the camera, and so far my camera hasn’t suffered a scratch. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Eric Weir wrote: On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: For my bicycle travels I've used a Tamrac Velocity 7 sling pack. Holds a camera and one or two lenses. Fast, easy access. Worked very well for me Thanks, Mark. I picked up a Pentax sling bag during a visit to KEH a few months back. I like Larrys suggestion, but the sling bag might work pretty well. It all depends on how much time you'll be spending walking around off the bike. The more time you're going to be on foot at various destinations the better a sling pack/bag will work. If you're going to me emphasizing the cycling and not venturing far from the bike for photography, something that mounts on the bike makes more sense. Thanks, Mark. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Our world is a human world. - Hilary Putnam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another Pentax Lens De-Flowered
Say it like it is Cotty - it was just deflowered it was de-balled. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv Subject: Another Pentax Lens De-Flowered Some minor surgery the other day to the wonderful SMC 17/4 fisheye, converting it for use as a cine prime - more in a moment. Some may know that I had previously done the same with my A*85/1.4 last year: removed the detent balls and springs from the aperture ring to allow smooth and continuous aperture change while shooting video. It is very effective and the images from it onto the Canon C100 super-35 sensor are luscious beyond dreams. The super 35 sensor size is smaller than 'full-frame' (36X24mm) and only a tad larger than APS-C... see chart: http://cvp.com/images/uploaded/sensor_table.gif ...so fields of view are similar to Pentax DSLR territory, which means shooting wider angles are more of a challenge. For wide zoom work - for instance when filming groups of people at close quarters - needing wide shots and closer detail at will, I have been using the Canon EF17-40/4. The problem with that lens is that the aperture is controlled via a click-wheel on the camera body, and when performing a move (say) from bright to dark and needing to adjust aperture ('pull stop') dynamically during the shot, the aperture steps are visible - even when the camera is set at 1/3 increment control - and so not acceptable. To get round this I'll be sourcing a copy of the only decent wide zoom lens on the market with an aperture ring - the Nikkor AF-S 17-35/2.8 and then having it doctored, literally, by a company that specialises in transforming still lenses for cine use; http://www.thelensdoctor.co.uk/page6.html They'll remove the clicks from the aperture ring and dampen it to avoid inadvertent movement. The Nikkor is a bit more involved than the old MF Pentax lenses, so it's worth doing properly. Why? Because the cine alternatives are cost-prohibitive for my needs. That's further down the line. Meanwhile I remembered the 17/4 sitting in a drawer and thought it would be fun to convert it for cine use. An hour removing the aperture clicks and a bit of jiggery-pokery re-situating the return spring and fitting an EF mount (sourced from the few I had specially made about 15 years ago when i first modified some lenses to Canon use) and hey presto. Early tests with it are fantastic - love the barrel distortion this lens offers and the field of view works really well on the C100. Will come in very useful for in-your-face wide shots in music sequences etc. I'm working on some video I shot while sailing in the Baltic earlier in the summer where I used the 85/1.4 so when that's completed I'll post a link to view. Will hopefully get a chance to use the 17/4 in anger soon, watch this space. Hope all are well, am dipping in on the list sporadically and often. Very little stills photography going on at the moment sadly! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom
On 2015-07-23 15:28 , Eric Weir wrote: Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on the way the original Pentax hood does, which means it can’t be mounted on the lens backward, which was very convenient when the lens is not in use. I may get a chance to try these disposable hoods yet. i would send it back and get the one for the 17-70; you'll save money even with return shipping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Disappointed that you’ve found banking with full-size cameras a challenge. Damn auto spellcheck! (I know, I don’t have to use it.) Needless to say, should have been “biking” not “banking. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
Thanks, Godfrey. Sounds a lot like the bag Larry found. I’ll check it out, too. On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: I missed the start of this thread. My solution has been to use an Ortlieb Mini-O bag outfitted with a mount that mates to the front bag mount on my bike (a Brompton) and use the Ortlieb camera insert in that. The bag is a nice size for a modest-sized camera/2-3 lens kit, is frame-mounted so no wobblies, is weatherproof, and has a shoulder strap included when you have parked/stored the bike. Take the insert out and it's a decent general purpose carryall too. It's got structure in it so it doesn't fold down to jam into other luggage, but if your other luggage is big enough, just fill it with whatever else will fit and stuff it in as is. Now I just have to get my hip replacement surgery done so that I can ride my bicycle again... :-/ G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
I believe polariser is a word created from polarised light filter, hence PL-filter. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Igor PDML-StR Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 4:27 AM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: What's in the name? I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: First Adult Bike
Nice bike, nice photo! Grace looks like she wants to be on her way already. On 7/22/2015 5:08 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Gracie has her first adult bike. I bought her a 2014 Giant Tempt 5, which was new but somewhat reduced since it’s last year’s model. Seems to work great. It has 27.5 wheels but an Adult Small frame. Went to a good bike shop nearby, and they measured her and had her test drive some bikes. This one seems to be excellent. Was surprised to learn it’s American made, or at least marketed by a U.S. company. (I’m often skeptical of “American made” claims.) Here’s a truly awful phone pic in bad light with Grace squinting:-) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18058025size=lg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: For my bicycle travels I've used a Tamrac Velocity 7 sling pack. Holds a camera and one or two lenses. Fast, easy access. Worked very well for me Thanks, Mark. I picked up a Pentax sling bag during a visit to KEH a few months back. I like Larry’s suggestion, but the sling bag might work pretty well. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before. - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
On Jul 22, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: P.s. If I were to do a really long tour - months, perhaps - I would give some thought to fitting a porteur rack to the front of the bike and either putting a camera bag directly on that, or using a large front bag and putting a camera bag inside that. Looks like Larry’s found a bag that essentially does that. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
I missed the start of this thread. My solution has been to use an Ortlieb Mini-O bag outfitted with a mount that mates to the front bag mount on my bike (a Brompton) and use the Ortlieb camera insert in that. The bag is a nice size for a modest-sized camera/2-3 lens kit, is frame-mounted so no wobblies, is weatherproof, and has a shoulder strap included when you have parked/stored the bike. Take the insert out and it's a decent general purpose carryall too. It's got structure in it so it doesn't fold down to jam into other luggage, but if your other luggage is big enough, just fill it with whatever else will fit and stuff it in as is. Now I just have to get my hip replacement surgery done so that I can ride my bicycle again... :-/ G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Final Grebe Shot
What Dan said! J Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Nice sense of movement imparted by the wake. Strong composition and interesting poses. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:03 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, not the last ~ever~ but the last from Sunday's shoot. I think this is my favourite because it's earlier, before the skies got really dark - the aperture was a bit smaller so both grebes are fairly well focused (by my standards, anyway): http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-final-grebe-shot.html Let me know what you think. Comments always welcome. Hope you enjoy. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
It isn't an acronym. PL was originally the abbreviation printed on linear polarizers from almost all manufacturers. When circular polarizers came into being (and were necessary to avoid exposure and focus problems with modern cameras that use semi-silvered mirrors or prisms to split the light entering the viewfinder in order to calculate exposure and focusing distance) they had to be differentiated in some way. You will see them called CPL, PL-CIR, and PL-C (perhaps others) by various manufacturers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
I have a couple of similar bags. One of them is too small for a SLR kit. The other is an Arkel bag, which is a highly-regarded brand, but in fact it's enormous so I haven't used it yet, on the grounds that nature abhors a vacuum so I'd end up filling it, and that goes against my principle of keeping it light. http://www.arkel-od.com/en/arkel-large-handlebar-bag.html B On 23 Jul 2015, at 23:12, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jul 22, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: P.s. If I were to do a really long tour - months, perhaps - I would give some thought to fitting a porteur rack to the front of the bike and either putting a camera bag directly on that, or using a large front bag and putting a camera bag inside that. Looks like Larry’s found a bag that essentially does that. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Charles S. Aguila
Profound condolences, Christine. Lovely memories. - Marco On Jul 23, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Charles S. Aguila
Sincere condolences, Christine. He was obviously quite a guy. Alan C -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 4:05 AM To: PDML List Subject: Charles S. Aguila Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lunchtime Sun
Looks like an Oracle! Alan C -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Lunchtime Sun http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049362size=lg The Paddington Street Gardens were once a cemetery, and there are still a few mausoleums on the property. Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Charles S. Aguila
Warm condolences Christine. My dad passed away aged 82 last year, and I miss him so much. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Christine Aguila Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 4:05 AM To: PDML List Subject: Charles S. Aguila Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- Questa e-mail è stata controllata per individuare virus con Avast antivirus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
So they can fly off a runway. On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:17 am, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: ... and why do people park their cars in driveways drive them on parkways? On 7/23/2015 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Similarily, there are single element 'close up' lenses that are only one element like a filter and they screw on like a filter but are called lenses. Yes! I have one of those someplace, but I haven't used it for 15 or 20 years. The best ones are two elements cemented together and are achromatic. Pentax made some really good ones, of which I have a couple in 77mm thread. Quite useful when you don't want to carry a dedicated macro lens. I've also got a Sigme 2-element close-up lens in 58mm size and it's very, very good. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Charles S. Aguila
Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Charles S. Aguila
I'm so sorry Christine! I share Darren's sentiments but not his eloquence. I will simply say that as I lost my dad fifteen years ago, I feel your pain. My sincerest condolences to you and your family. That photo is a perfect remembrance of him. I know it will be treasured. Best regards, frank On 23 July, 2015 10:05:32 PM EDT, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Biking with Karin and Chris
Purely. A good friend used to keep his aeroplane at a disused RAF base at Little Rissington, not far from Great Barrington. Very nice countryside around there, both to drive through and fly over. It amused me that the two villages were about the same size, despite the egomaniacal title of the latter. Rick On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Bob W wrote: Here's my side of the story. Any resemblance between Chris's pictures and mine is purely coincidental. http://www.web-options.com/Cotswolds2015/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Charles S. Aguila
Christine, You have my sincere condolences. It was very generous of you to share this with us and also the photo of your dear father. We are with you in your time of grief. Anyone who has ever experienced losing a loved one can feel your heartbreak. Somehow it is the sharing of that feeling and letting others share in our pain that helps us through. I'm sure your father was very proud of you, Christine, and would be grateful to know how much he is missed. Respectfully, Darren Addy On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
I have several Nikon and A Canon that are very good. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: What's in the name? Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Similarily, there are single element 'close up' lenses that are only one element like a filter and they screw on like a filter but are called lenses. Yes! I have one of those someplace, but I haven't used it for 15 or 20 years. The best ones are two elements cemented together and are achromatic. Pentax made some really good ones, of which I have a couple in 77mm thread. Quite useful when you don't want to carry a dedicated macro lens. I've also got a Sigme 2-element close-up lens in 58mm size and it's very, very good. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Charles S. Aguila
So sorry for your loss Christine. If I would have met him I would have thanked him for his dedication and service to his country. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:05 PM Subject: Charles S. Aguila Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Lunchtime Sun
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049362size=lg The Paddington Street Gardens were once a cemetery, and there are still a few mausoleums on the property. Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Similarily, there are single element 'close up' lenses that are only one element like a filter and they screw on like a filter but are called lenses. Yes! I have one of those someplace, but I haven't used it for 15 or 20 years. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Charles S. Aguila
Touching, sweet remembrances. My condolences, Christina. J Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Charles S. Aguila
Sorry to hear that, Christine, my sincere condolences. From that photo, the likeness is amazing. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila Sent: Friday, 24 July 2015 12:06 PM To: PDML List Subject: Charles S. Aguila Hi Everyone: Tuesday night, my dad—Charles S. Aguila--passed away. He was 84 and had been suffering with congestive heart failure. My dad would have fit right in PDML. He had a great sense of humor, was extremely generous, told funny stories, and was a solid photographer in his own right. Someday, I’ll scan some of his slides and post them; they are really quite good. He used to shoot with a Minolta—I think. I don’t know if his camera is still in the house. Some of his funniest stories were about his paratrooper days. Dad served in Korea, and when his tour was completed he reenlisted in the reserves, went to jump school, and served as a paratrooper in the 12th Special Forces. He never jumped during active duty, but he completed 60+ jumps during his reserve service. He also earned Canadian wings during jump school training in Canada. After 31 years of military service, he retired Master Sergeant E9. He is 81 in the photo below. When I took this photo three years ago, I thought for sure he’d be around for a good while longer. He looks so fit and young for 81. But in the last year and a half, his health turned. He died at home with everyone near by and surrounded in love. Love you, Dad! Miss you tons! Christine http://www.caguilaphotography.com/dad/content/81st_birthday_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
Never thought about it. PL was the label on filter boxes that contained polarizing filters when I worked the camera counter, just like O, G, A, Y, etc, coded other filter boxes. I guess CPL became popular after that for circular polarizers. I wouldn't waste too much time on trying to ascertain a specific derivation. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom
Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on the way the original Pentax hood does, which means it can’t be mounted on the lens backward, which was very convenient when the lens is not in use. I may get a chance to try these disposable hoods yet. Eric On Jul 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eric, I have seen this rubberised foam sheets - about 1 to 2 mm thick and as light as a feather - at Michaels, Wall Mart and other craft stores. Paid 89 cents for a sheet. Here in India it is dirt cheap. Comes in one side black and the other side white, full black or full white. Kids use them for school projects and here in India I see them sold on the road side as shoe insole inserts. You print the lens hood on paper and then use it as a template on your rubberised foam sheet. There is an exact name for this sheet, just that I can't remember. I have also used it for making flash diffuser and bounce card. Regards. Bipin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Working Under Cover
On 23 July 2015 at 22:10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18058362 K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. I guess it was hot? When I went in Feb 2012 it was pretty cold; the moat around the forbidden city, and the lakes in the parks were frozen. Badaling high up in the hills was icy windy. Still all a very enjoyable experience though. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
On 2015-07-23 11:17 , John wrote: ... and why do people park their cars in driveways drive them on parkways? don't people drive bikes and ride cars, after all? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
Thanks, Bob. I think I am going to enjoy myself. This is the company with which I’ll (probably) be booking a tour in the next day or so. http://www.salentobicitour.org/en My schedule won’t permit doing the entire thing, but I’ll join the Trulli and Salento tour three days in. I know you wouldn’t bother with a company like this, that you’d strike out on your own. I’m not quite confident of myself enough for that yet. I like what I sense of this company. Very eco conscious. And very accommodating of me. A bit of a price, though. But as my English sister said, “You can’t take it with you. The Fuji cameras are very appealing. I’ve been eyeing them for some time now. They are available from KEH pretty reasonably. Don’t know if I can afford the convenience of the X20 for this trip, though. Disappointed that you’ve found banking with full-size cameras a challenge. I have a Domke bag that’s slightly larger than your’s. I carry it with the camera in it all the time. The camera should come out of the bag much, much more often than it does, though. On Jul 22, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Hi Eric, You will enjoy yourself with or without a camera. I haven't fully resolved your question yet, but I can certainly tell you what my experiences have been. On my most recent tours, over the last year to eighteen months, I've taken a Fuji X20 which I keep in a CCS compact pouch (http://www.ccscentre.co.uk) for protection, which I put in a waterproof stuff-sac for, er, waterproofing stuff, along with my other crap like passport and wallet. This in turn goes in my handlebar bag (http://banjobrothers.com/products/current/canvas-and-leather-bags/canvas-saddle-bag-small/ - they call it a saddle bag, but it works very well as a bar bag). This generally works fine and is quite quick to use when pootling along on my velocipede I see something photogenic. My quibbles are mostly related to the camera's usability, but they are general quibbles rather than bike-specific. I would prefer to take an SLR + 2 or 3 lenses, and I've done that on a few occasions, but it is more difficult. The last time I did this I strapped a Domke F5-XB camera bag (http://www.domkebags.co.uk/shop-online/f-5xb-medium-shoulder-belt-bag/ ) to the handlebars. This has the makings of a perfect camera/bike bag, but it has some serious shortcomings. First, it is not robust enough to take the wear from rubbing against the head-tube - I wore a hole in the bag in 3 weeks, so it needs some leather or similar patching if it's used like this. Second the way it's strapped to the bar is rather ad hoc, and it caused the bartape to unravel; it also made it difficult to use the horizontal part off the handlebar; finally it was a drag to remove and replace when I left the bike. I have also used panniers, and just stuffed everything into one of them, but I don't like panniers generally, so I no longer use them. From the photo point of view it was such a pain to get the camera out that I rarely took pictures. Hope that helps. B On 22 Jul 2015, at 16:12, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Looks like I’m going to be on a bike for several days while in Italy. Wondering about carrying a camera, in my case a K5, on a bicycle on a bicycle tour. Especially balancing protecting the camera while underway with accessibility to the camera for taking photos. Suggestions? Special equipment? Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying camera on a bicycle
Eric Weir wrote: On Jul 22, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: For my bicycle travels I've used a Tamrac Velocity 7 sling pack. Holds a camera and one or two lenses. Fast, easy access. Worked very well for me Thanks, Mark. I picked up a Pentax sling bag during a visit to KEH a few months back. I like Larrys suggestion, but the sling bag might work pretty well. It all depends on how much time you'll be spending walking around off the bike. The more time you're going to be on foot at various destinations the better a sling pack/bag will work. If you're going to me emphasizing the cycling and not venturing far from the bike for photography, something that mounts on the bike makes more sense. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: On Guard
A member of the Chinese People's Armed Police Force (CAPF) stands guard as Chinese tourists queue up in Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18055690size=lg K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On Guard
Interesting. And perhaps courageous on your part. Paul via phone On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: A member of the Chinese People's Armed Police Force (CAPF) stands guard as Chinese tourists queue up in Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18055690size=lg K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
I thought that PL stood for polarizing lens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Hi Darren, So, the initial PL was for PoLarizer (as Bill suggested)? That's weird! But those things happen... I am recalling that when I saw PL many years ago, I actually thought it could've been for Linear Polarizer but possibly in a different language (e.g. French), where the word sequence is reverse (polarisant lin'eaire). As for varios markings for Cirular Polarizers, I found that at least two companies/brands also used PLD (Quantaray) or P.L.D. (Marumi): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800690332-USE/ Any idea what that D stands for? And why it is writed with the periods (dots?) as an initialism? http://www.marumi-filter.co.jp/en/product/02/dhg_s_cpld.php (You can see it engraved on the filter.) In the letter case, it is funny that they write Circular PL on the website. Now, my 3 guesses that I mentioned yesterday but didn't write to avoid any bias were: lens, light, and luminescence that would be in the scientific term circularly polarized luminescence. Obviously, none of these would be correct in CPL filter. Igor Darren Addy Thu, 23 Jul 2015 04:44:15 -0700 wrote: It isn't an acronym. PL was originally the abbreviation printed on linear polarizers from almost all manufacturers. When circular polarizers came into being (and were necessary to avoid exposure and focus problems with modern cameras that use semi-silvered mirrors or prisms to split the light entering the viewfinder in order to calculate exposure and focusing distance) they had to be differentiated in some way. You will see them called CPL, PL-CIR, and PL-C (perhaps others) by various manufacturers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
Hi Darren, So, the initial PL was for PoLarizer (as Bill suggested)? That's weird! But those things happen... I am recalling that when I saw PL many years ago, I actually thought it could've been for Linear Polarizer but possibly in a different language (e.g. French), where the word sequence is reverse (polarisant lin'eaire). As for varios markings for Cirular Polarizers, I found that at least two companies/brands also used PLD (Quantaray) or P.L.D. (Marumi): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800690332-USE/ Any idea what that D stands for? And why it is writed with the periods (dots?) as an initialism? http://www.marumi-filter.co.jp/en/product/02/dhg_s_cpld.php (You can see it engraved on the filter.) In the letter case, it is funny that they write Circular PL on the website. Now, my 3 guesses that I mentioned yesterday but didn't write to avoid any bias were: lens, light, and luminescence that would be in the scientific term circularly polarized luminescence. Obviously, none of these would be correct in CPL filter. Igor Darren Addy Thu, 23 Jul 2015 04:44:15 -0700 wrote: It isn't an acronym. PL was originally the abbreviation printed on linear polarizers from almost all manufacturers. When circular polarizers came into being (and were necessary to avoid exposure and focus problems with modern cameras that use semi-silvered mirrors or prisms to split the light entering the viewfinder in order to calculate exposure and focusing distance) they had to be differentiated in some way. You will see them called CPL, PL-CIR, and PL-C (perhaps others) by various manufacturers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
I think the use of PL by some manufactures goes way back, there was once a standardized filter nominclature, that used letters, A for red, K[#] for Yellows, G for Deep Yellow. I don't know all of them, (One often sees the letter designation combined with the Wratten number used by Kodak, which can be confusing as some Wratten numbers include a trailing letter. So an A filter is a Wratten #25 which is described as red tricolor, and might be designated by say Tiffen as an A-25, while, a lighter red filter has a Wratten number of 23A. I always assumed that the the PL designation for a polarizer was used because P conflicted with some long forgotten standard letter code for a color filter. CPL was just a logical extension from that. I have no idea why some manufactures decided on A for red, K for Yellow or G for a specific shade of Deep Yellow, nor could I find a complete listing of alternate letter codes for different photographic color filters, so this is just speculation on my part. It does make sense in a way. Polarizing filters were a relatively late addition to the photographic arsenal using them on non SLR cameras was tricky, some of the Rube Goldberg solutions to using them with rangefinder equipped cameras look fragile at best, and the Graflex style reflex cameras viewing screens were already so dim that focusing and composing with a polarizer in front of the lens seems impractical. So it seems that P might have been used for some color. On 7/23/2015 10:32 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Hi Darren, So, the initial PL was for PoLarizer (as Bill suggested)? That's weird! But those things happen... I am recalling that when I saw PL many years ago, I actually thought it could've been for Linear Polarizer but possibly in a different language (e.g. French), where the word sequence is reverse (polarisant lin'eaire). As for varios markings for Cirular Polarizers, I found that at least two companies/brands also used PLD (Quantaray) or P.L.D. (Marumi): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800690332-USE/ Any idea what that D stands for? And why it is writed with the periods (dots?) as an initialism? http://www.marumi-filter.co.jp/en/product/02/dhg_s_cpld.php (You can see it engraved on the filter.) In the letter case, it is funny that they write Circular PL on the website. Now, my 3 guesses that I mentioned yesterday but didn't write to avoid any bias were: lens, light, and luminescence that would be in the scientific term circularly polarized luminescence. Obviously, none of these would be correct in CPL filter. Igor Darren Addy Thu, 23 Jul 2015 04:44:15 -0700 wrote: It isn't an acronym. PL was originally the abbreviation printed on linear polarizers from almost all manufacturers. When circular polarizers came into being (and were necessary to avoid exposure and focus problems with modern cameras that use semi-silvered mirrors or prisms to split the light entering the viewfinder in order to calculate exposure and focusing distance) they had to be differentiated in some way. You will see them called CPL, PL-CIR, and PL-C (perhaps others) by various manufacturers. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
I understand that Igor. Despite what evidences of ignorance I may post here, I do know the difference between a lens and a filter. I had assumed that the terminology originated when it was first applied to a lens that had the polarizing built into the lens itself, and that was later replaced by a filter that could be uses on any lens of an appropriate diameter. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Dan, And I assume you know why that would be incorrect usage? Because (hopefully!) no lensing occurs in a filter (which is supposed to have flat, plane-parallel surfaces). Cheers, Igor Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 23 Jul 2015 07:36:01 -0700 wrote: I thought that PL stood for polarizing lens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: ... Now, my 3 guesses that I mentioned yesterday but didn't write to avoid any bias were: lens, light, and luminescence that would be in the scientific term circularly polarized luminescence. Obviously, none of these would be correct in CPL filter. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On Guard
Quite chilling. 26 years ago you wouldn't have been taking that picture. One nit: I wish his feet weren't cut off. But maybe you didn't want to spend a lot of time composing? Wouldn't blame you... Cheers, frank On 23 July, 2015 10:46:59 AM EDT, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: A member of the Chinese People's Armed Police Force (CAPF) stands guard as Chinese tourists queue up in Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18055690size=lg K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On Guard
Thanks, Paul and Frank. I noted that there seemed to be fewer police visible in Beijing than in Tokyo, but that the ones in Tokyo were quite friendly in posture and demeanor, while the ones in Beijing were definitely not. They were stiff and formal at all times. Our Beijing guide, Jim, did not think it would be a problem to include the police or military in an image of the square, but implied in the way he said it that it probably was not a good idea to take an image of a policeman or military guard as such. I did include them in a few images, but never really pointed directly at one, nor did I take an image while one was looking at me. In this instance, I think I was panning on the woman with the blue umbrella, and snapped the image while the policeman was in the frame. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Interesting. And perhaps courageous on your part. Paul via phone On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: A member of the Chinese People's Armed Police Force (CAPF) stands guard as Chinese tourists queue up in Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18055690size=lg K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Paddington Street Gardens
~typically~ Rick, Really?!? Your trying to build favor with Bob-W and Cotty. Only 33 percent sunshine in London...60+ percent in Chicago. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: London is full of small beautiful parks, including this one--peaceful morning and afternoon, and bustling at lunchtime on a ~typically~ lovely English mid-day. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049363size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
Dan, And I assume you know why that would be incorrect usage? Because (hopefully!) no lensing occurs in a filter (which is supposed to have flat, plane-parallel surfaces). Cheers, Igor Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 23 Jul 2015 07:36:01 -0700 wrote: I thought that PL stood for polarizing lens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: ... Now, my 3 guesses that I mentioned yesterday but didn't write to avoid any bias were: lens, light, and luminescence that would be in the scientific term circularly polarized luminescence. Obviously, none of these would be correct in CPL filter. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Final Grebe Shot
Nice shot Frank. I like the composition, the posture of the birds, and the wake they made. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:03 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, not the last ~ever~ but the last from Sunday's shoot. I think this is my favourite because it's earlier, before the skies got really dark - the aperture was a bit smaller so both grebes are fairly well focused (by my standards, anyway): http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-final-grebe-shot.html Let me know what you think. Comments always welcome. Hope you enjoy. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
PJ, Thank you for that interesting idea. It sounds as a very possible scenario. Igor P.J. Alling Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:14:48 -0700 wrote: I think the use of PL by some manufactures goes way back, there was once a standardized filter nominclature, that used letters, A for red, K[#] for Yellows, G for Deep Yellow. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: First Adult Bike
Paul, I'm sure the years are fleeting, but very precious...worth all the difficulties. You and your wife, your daughter, and Gracie will remember the the time forever. You get extra Mensch points. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Godfrey. It will be ten years next month since she came to live with us. The years are fleeting. Paul via phone On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Gracie has certainly grown up a lot since I first saw a picture of her, what, almost a decade ago now! Nice bike, a pretty young lady ... A photo to treasure regardless of how awful it might be. I hope she enjoys the heck out of it. :-) Godfrey On Jul 22, 2015, at 2:08 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Gracie has her first adult bike. I bought her a 2014 Giant Tempt 5, which was new but somewhat reduced since it’s last year’s model. Seems to work great. It has 27.5 wheels but an Adult Small frame. Went to a good bike shop nearby, and they measured her and had her test drive some bikes. This one seems to be excellent. Was surprised to learn it’s American made, or at least marketed by a U.S. company. (I’m often skeptical of “American made” claims.) Here’s a truly awful phone pic in bad light with Grace squinting:-) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18058025size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Final Grebe Shot
What Dan said. Excellent! Paul via phone On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Nice sense of movement imparted by the wake. Strong composition and interesting poses. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:03 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, not the last ~ever~ but the last from Sunday's shoot. I think this is my favourite because it's earlier, before the skies got really dark - the aperture was a bit smaller so both grebes are fairly well focused (by my standards, anyway): http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-final-grebe-shot.html Let me know what you think. Comments always welcome. Hope you enjoy. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Final Grebe Shot
On 23/07/15 04:03, frank theriault wrote: Okay, not the last ~ever~ but the last from Sunday's shoot. I think this is my favourite because it's earlier, before the skies got really dark - the aperture was a bit smaller so both grebes are fairly well focused (by my standards, anyway): I didn't look at the others, I must admit, but I like this one. Especially the colour/reflections in the water. - Toralf http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-final-grebe-shot.html Let me know what you think. Comments always welcome. Hope you enjoy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On Guard
I expect that by now, they're about as blasé about being photographed as the Palace Guards in London. On 7/23/2015 10:59 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Interesting. And perhaps courageous on your part. Paul via phone On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: A member of the Chinese People's Armed Police Force (CAPF) stands guard as Chinese tourists queue up in Tiananmen Square: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18055690size=lg K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On Guard
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:51 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: I expect that by now, they're about as blasé about being photographed as the Palace Guards in London. They did not appear blasé about anything, and there were no Chinese tourists taking photos of the police or soldiers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Se på koret
works for me Dave On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: A couple of months ago, I came across this choir singing in the street. As usual, I found the spectators more interesting than the performers: http://se.toralf.net/post/124734050808/kor Shot on Ektar 100 film. Shameless praise is welcome, as always. Oh, and other comments, too :-) I have certain doubts about the focus, or lack thereof, myself - but *maybe* it works... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
... and why do people park their cars in driveways drive them on parkways? On 7/23/2015 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: On Guard
How often do English tourists photograph the Palace Guards in London? On 7/23/2015 1:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:51 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: I expect that by now, they're about as blasé about being photographed as the Palace Guards in London. They did not appear blasé about anything, and there were no Chinese tourists taking photos of the police or soldiers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Paddington Street Gardens
Bob S: I've spent about 2 years living in the UK, so have enjoyed a bit of it's weather. Just jerking Chris M's chain, or feeding his delusions (not sure of the state of his reality testing). Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: It's always sunny in Southern Britain - you have to go North, where Mike Wilson lives, if you want to be miserable. It rains far more in Chicago than it does here, and is much more extreme weatherwise. Your trying to build favor with Bob-W and Cotty. That might work with Chris M, but it's useless with me and Cotty. Bribery and cheap women who are not too fussy, that's what works if you want to curry favour with us. B From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan ~typically~ Rick, Really?!? Your trying to build favor with Bob-W and Cotty. Only 33 percent sunshine in London...60+ percent in Chicago. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: London is full of small beautiful parks, including this one--peaceful morning and afternoon, and bustling at lunchtime on a ~typically~ lovely English mid- day. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049363size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
On 7/23/2015 1:06 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Hmm. You sound a bit gruntled (the opposite of disgruntled). But don't worry about me. I'm off to find the ineffable and determine if it can, in fact, be effed. Yeah, EFF 'em all! -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nicolas
Thanks Bob. An illuminating post about an illuminating post. Rick On Jul 23, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 23 Jul 2015, at 05:55, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 22 July 2015 at 05:22, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Look at the size of the chain used to lock the bike to the lamp-post! The chain is there to prevent the lamp-post from being stolen. Chris There's been a spate of lamppost thefts recently. When the police were asked who was responsible they replied we're completely in the dark, but we're not making light of it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
And, as Steven Wright famously asked, Does anybody have another word for thesaurus?. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another Pentax Lens De-Flowered
Some minor surgery the other day to the wonderful SMC 17/4 fisheye, converting it for use as a cine prime - more in a moment. Some may know that I had previously done the same with my A*85/1.4 last year: removed the detent balls and springs from the aperture ring to allow smooth and continuous aperture change while shooting video. It is very effective and the images from it onto the Canon C100 super-35 sensor are luscious beyond dreams. The super 35 sensor size is smaller than 'full-frame' (36X24mm) and only a tad larger than APS-C... see chart: http://cvp.com/images/uploaded/sensor_table.gif ...so fields of view are similar to Pentax DSLR territory, which means shooting wider angles are more of a challenge. For wide zoom work - for instance when filming groups of people at close quarters - needing wide shots and closer detail at will, I have been using the Canon EF17-40/4. The problem with that lens is that the aperture is controlled via a click-wheel on the camera body, and when performing a move (say) from bright to dark and needing to adjust aperture ('pull stop') dynamically during the shot, the aperture steps are visible - even when the camera is set at 1/3 increment control - and so not acceptable. To get round this I'll be sourcing a copy of the only decent wide zoom lens on the market with an aperture ring - the Nikkor AF-S 17-35/2.8 and then having it doctored, literally, by a company that specialises in transforming still lenses for cine use; http://www.thelensdoctor.co.uk/page6.html They'll remove the clicks from the aperture ring and dampen it to avoid inadvertent movement. The Nikkor is a bit more involved than the old MF Pentax lenses, so it's worth doing properly. Why? Because the cine alternatives are cost-prohibitive for my needs. That's further down the line. Meanwhile I remembered the 17/4 sitting in a drawer and thought it would be fun to convert it for cine use. An hour removing the aperture clicks and a bit of jiggery-pokery re-situating the return spring and fitting an EF mount (sourced from the few I had specially made about 15 years ago when i first modified some lenses to Canon use) and hey presto. Early tests with it are fantastic - love the barrel distortion this lens offers and the field of view works really well on the C100. Will come in very useful for in-your-face wide shots in music sequences etc. I'm working on some video I shot while sailing in the Baltic earlier in the summer where I used the 85/1.4 so when that's completed I'll post a link to view. Will hopefully get a chance to use the 17/4 in anger soon, watch this space. Hope all are well, am dipping in on the list sporadically and often. Very little stills photography going on at the moment sadly! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
On 23 July 2015 at 20:09, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: And, as Steven Wright famously asked, Does anybody have another word for thesaurus?. synonymy -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
My dictionary, lexicon, wordbook, wordfinder, vocabulary, synonymy, encyclopaedia, storehouse, repository, treasury does... B [Chambers Thesaurus (iOS) © Chambers Harrap Publishers Ltd.] On 23 Jul 2015, at 20:09, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: And, as Steven Wright famously asked, Does anybody have another word for thesaurus?. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
The same as redact is not to dact again, and reduce is not to make someone a duce once more. :-) Igor Bob W Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:41:39 -0700 wrote: Call me boring, but I know the answer to that. The re in refrigerate does not imply that is being made cold again. In the Latin it just implies a change of state, from warm to cold. Interestingly (or not), in French too 're' does not necessarily imply a repetition but can act to reinforce the root meaning. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Any wisdom on step-up rings? (and What polarizer) - Thank you!
Many thanks to everybody who shared their thoughts and pointers on both subjects (polarizers and step-up rings)! I didn't respond to everybody but carefully read all responses. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
If the professor on Gilligan's Island make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Dave On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Se på koret
On 23/07/15 18:23, David J Brooks wrote: works for me Good to hear. Thanks. - Toralf Dave On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: A couple of months ago, I came across this choir singing in the street. As usual, I found the spectators more interesting than the performers: http://se.toralf.net/post/124734050808/kor Shot on Ektar 100 film. Shameless praise is welcome, as always. Oh, and other comments, too :-) I have certain doubts about the focus, or lack thereof, myself - but *maybe* it works... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Paddington Street Gardens
lovely spot Dave On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: London is full of small beautiful parks, including this one--peaceful morning and afternoon, and bustling at lunchtime on a ~typically~ lovely English mid-day. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049363size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
On 23 Jul 2015, at 18:21, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 7/23/2015 1:06 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Hmm. You sound a bit gruntled (the opposite of disgruntled). But don't worry about me. I'm off to find the ineffable and determine if it can, in fact, be effed. Yeah, EFF 'em all! The vicar of Fetcham and Effingham [*] Scratches his balls as he's blessing 'em And when they're quite knackered He has them re-lacquered By six Chinese girls while he's effing 'em [*] Fetcham and Effingham is a real place. I believe the vicar is a snooker fan. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
On 7/23/2015 1:06 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Hmm. You sound a bit gruntled (the opposite of disgruntled). But don't worry about me. I'm off to find the ineffable and determine if it can, in fact, be effed. That brings up a story, best left unsaid. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
John wrote: ... and why do people park their cars in driveways drive them on parkways? http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/410/why-do-we-drive-on-the-parkway-and-park-on-the-driveway -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
Maybe because a driveway is a way to the drive, while a parkway is a way to the park? ;-) John Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:18:54 -0700 wrote: ... and why do people park their cars in driveways drive them on parkways? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Se på koret
On 23/07/15 12:31, Knarf wrote: I think it works. Good :-) Lots of red. Kind of pulls it together somehow. It was definitely the red that caught my eye at the time. Especially the balloons. Thank you, - Toralf Cheers, frank On 22 July, 2015 5:48:20 AM EDT, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: A couple of months ago, I came across this choir singing in the street. As usual, I found the spectators more interesting than the performers: http://se.toralf.net/post/124734050808/kor Shot on Ektar 100 film. Shameless praise is welcome, as always. Oh, and other comments, too :-) I have certain doubts about the focus, or lack thereof, myself - but *maybe* it works... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Paddington Street Gardens
It's always sunny in Southern Britain - you have to go North, where Mike Wilson lives, if you want to be miserable. It rains far more in Chicago than it does here, and is much more extreme weatherwise. Your trying to build favor with Bob-W and Cotty. That might work with Chris M, but it's useless with me and Cotty. Bribery and cheap women who are not too fussy, that's what works if you want to curry favour with us. B From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan ~typically~ Rick, Really?!? Your trying to build favor with Bob-W and Cotty. Only 33 percent sunshine in London...60+ percent in Chicago. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: London is full of small beautiful parks, including this one--peaceful morning and afternoon, and bustling at lunchtime on a ~typically~ lovely English mid- day. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049363size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: First Adult Bike
nice bike, Dave On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Gracie has her first adult bike. I bought her a 2014 Giant Tempt 5, which was new but somewhat reduced since it’s last year’s model. Seems to work great. It has 27.5 wheels but an Adult Small frame. Went to a good bike shop nearby, and they measured her and had her test drive some bikes. This one seems to be excellent. Was surprised to learn it’s American made, or at least marketed by a U.S. company. (I’m often skeptical of “American made” claims.) Here’s a truly awful phone pic in bad light with Grace squinting:-) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18058025size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
Call me boring, but I know the answer to that. The re in refrigerate does not imply that is being made cold again. In the Latin it just implies a change of state, from warm to cold. Interestingly (or not), in French too 're' does not necessarily imply a repetition but can act to reinforce the root meaning. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? It doesn't go anywhere, it just becomes Was'Jesus. How is it replenished? you find someone nice to Be'Jazzle you How do you know if you have enough? Your cup runneth over B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 23 July 2015 17:25 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?) speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's in the name?
I've seen it abreviated as C-Pl, and that's the form I try to remember to use. My best guess is it's C for Circular and Pl for PoLarizer. On 7/22/2015 10:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: I know that there are quite a few language and grammar geeks among PDMLers. That's why I thought I'd share this linguistic question that got me puzzled. I see that almost everybody who is talking about Circular Polarizers uses an abbreviation CPL, either as a noun or adjective (e.g. CPL filter). The curious part is that none of the online photography articles and reviews that talks about CPL bothers to deabbreviate it. (Just as a reference, all scientific journals where I've published my articles require to define any abbreviation before using it for the first time, even for those that are common in the field.) So, my question is What does the `L' in CPL stand for? I have 3 versions of what it might be (or what photographers who use that abbreviation might mean), including a standard one that is typically used in optical methods in physics, chemistry and related areas of science. None of those 3 would be strictly speaking correct. So, I am suspecting that I might be missing something more obvious. So, what does the `L' in CPL stand for? Thank you, Igor -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Obscure Questions (was What's in the name?)
Bob Sullivan wrote: speaking of obscure language questions... As my sons were growing up, we wondered what happened to Frigerators. We knew about re-frigerators, but where were the originals? A big landfill somewhere? When the milk gets warm and you put it back in the refrigerator, whats happening? You replacing the original frigeration it had before breakfast? And Be'Jesus. If you can scare the Be'Jesus out of somebody, where does it go? How is it replenished? How do you know if you have enough? Hmm. You sound a bit gruntled (the opposite of disgruntled). But don't worry about me. I'm off to find the ineffable and determine if it can, in fact, be effed. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Se på koret
I think it works. Lots of red. Kind of pulls it together somehow. Cheers, frank On 22 July, 2015 5:48:20 AM EDT, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: A couple of months ago, I came across this choir singing in the street. As usual, I found the spectators more interesting than the performers: http://se.toralf.net/post/124734050808/kor Shot on Ektar 100 film. Shameless praise is welcome, as always. Oh, and other comments, too :-) I have certain doubts about the focus, or lack thereof, myself - but *maybe* it works... - Toralf -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Se på koret
What Frank said! J Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2015, at 3:31 AM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I think it works. Lots of red. Kind of pulls it together somehow. Cheers, frank On 22 July, 2015 5:48:20 AM EDT, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: A couple of months ago, I came across this choir singing in the street. As usual, I found the spectators more interesting than the performers: http://se.toralf.net/post/124734050808/kor Shot on Ektar 100 film. Shameless praise is welcome, as always. Oh, and other comments, too :-) I have certain doubts about the focus, or lack thereof, myself - but *maybe* it works... - Toralf -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.