Re: PESO - Restaurante Lautasco

2017-01-21 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dan. It's a very interesting place for photos.

Rick

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 19:30 Daniel J. Matyola 
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> strong composition and very pleasing atmosphere.
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> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
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> > Another from the Alfama district of Lisbon. There are scores of small
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Re: PESO: Alfama 1 & 2

2017-01-21 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Paul!

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 21:44 Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> A nice way to look at this scene. Well done.
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> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
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> > Alfama is one of the oldest areas of Lisbon, built on a hill with a
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> > castle at the top. The "roads" are shelter-skelter and often
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> > interrupted by stairs, reputedly to frustrate invaders. The area was
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> > almost entirely spared in the 1755 earthquake. It's an enjoyable area
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> > to wander around and get lost in, especially with a camera.
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Re: GESO The Stickmen at Kuumbwa Jazz

2017-01-21 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Fine, clear and precise images, as usual.


Thanks Dan!




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On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


A friend asked if I wanted to see The Stickmen last night, they call
themselves Prog Noir.  They got their name because it's two people playing
chapman sticks and one playing drums (everyone plays with sticks, clever
no?) two of them played with King Crimson, and they did a couple of King
Crimson covers.

I think I ended up with a fairly solid set of photos, but there isn't any
one that really jumps out at me for being much better than the rest, so
I'll just point to the set.  Comments, and suggestions for improvement are
welcome as always.  This is only the second time I've photographed at this
venue, so I'm still learning it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157679427756355/



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Re: PESO - Restaurante Lautasco

2017-01-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
strong composition and very pleasing atmosphere.

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On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> Another from the Alfama district of Lisbon. There are scores of small
> restaurants in the maze of narrow streets.
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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333413
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Re: GESO The Stickmen at Kuumbwa Jazz

2017-01-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Fine, clear and precise images, as usual.

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On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> A friend asked if I wanted to see The Stickmen last night, they call
> themselves Prog Noir.  They got their name because it's two people playing
> chapman sticks and one playing drums (everyone plays with sticks, clever
> no?) two of them played with King Crimson, and they did a couple of King
> Crimson covers.
>
> I think I ended up with a fairly solid set of photos, but there isn't any
> one that really jumps out at me for being much better than the rest, so
> I'll just point to the set.  Comments, and suggestions for improvement are
> welcome as always.  This is only the second time I've photographed at this
> venue, so I'm still learning it.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157679427756355/
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Re: GESO The Stickmen at Kuumbwa Jazz

2017-01-21 Thread Larry Colen



Ken Waller wrote:

Very nice exposures Larry.


Thanks Ken.





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Re: GESO The Stickmen at Kuumbwa Jazz

2017-01-21 Thread Ken Waller
Very nice exposures Larry.


-Original Message-
>From: Larry Colen Subject: GESO The Stickmen at Kuumbwa Jazz
>
>A friend asked if I wanted to see The Stickmen last night, they call 
>themselves Prog Noir.  They got their name because it's two people 
>playing chapman sticks and one playing drums (everyone plays with 
>sticks, clever no?) two of them played with King Crimson, and they did a 
>couple of King Crimson covers.
>
>I think I ended up with a fairly solid set of photos, but there isn't 
>any one that really jumps out at me for being much better than the rest, 
>so I'll just point to the set.  Comments, and suggestions for 
>improvement are welcome as always.  This is only the second time I've 
>photographed at this venue, so I'm still learning it.
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157679427756355/
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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread Bob W-PDML

> On 21 Jan 2017, at 22:40, John  wrote:
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>> On 1/21/2017 12:21 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
>> I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
>> to any Leica shops.
>> 
>> I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
>> plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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> OTOH, maybe there's something there SHE would like?
> 

Karin would like to see Chris happy, and Chris wants nothing more than to 
please Karin; a nice M10 and a few lenses would make Chris happy, and that 
would please Karin. 

There are no losers when you buy Leica, just warm fuzzy feelings all round. And 
I don't even get commission or discounts.



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GESO The Stickmen at Kuumbwa Jazz

2017-01-21 Thread Larry Colen
A friend asked if I wanted to see The Stickmen last night, they call 
themselves Prog Noir.  They got their name because it's two people 
playing chapman sticks and one playing drums (everyone plays with 
sticks, clever no?) two of them played with King Crimson, and they did a 
couple of King Crimson covers.


I think I ended up with a fairly solid set of photos, but there isn't 
any one that really jumps out at me for being much better than the rest, 
so I'll just point to the set.  Comments, and suggestions for 
improvement are welcome as always.  This is only the second time I've 
photographed at this venue, so I'm still learning it.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157679427756355/

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Re: GESO: 2016 -- The Year in Review

2017-01-21 Thread John

The stairwell photo (id=18333842) is reminiscent of chambered nautilus
shell photos; kind of "Edward Weston"-ish.

On 1/20/2017 3:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Aloha from Maui!

"I took off for a weekend last month
Just to try and recall the whole year.
All of the faces and all of the places,
wonderin' where they all disappeared.
I didn't ponder the question too long;
I was hungry and went out for a bite.
Ran into a chum with a bottle of rum,
and we wound up drinkin' all night.

It's those changes in latitudes,
changes in attitudes nothing remains quite the same.
With all of our running and all of our cunning,
If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane."

Jimmy Buffett

In reviewing my images from last year for the PDML Annual, I put together
this gallery of images that represent where I went, what I did, and what
caught my eye.  They are certainly not great photographs in any sense of
that concept, as I am still just an enthusiast rather than an artist, but
those that bring back good memories and remind me of why I carry that
camera around aall the time instead of relying on my iPhone to record what
I see.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095410
Comments and criticism are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread John

On 1/21/2017 12:21 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
to any Leica shops.

I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...

Chris



OTOH, maybe there's something there SHE would like?

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Re: Pauls photos in the news

2017-01-21 Thread John

On 1/20/2017 5:19 PM, Gonz wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/01/20/test-mule-that-helped-save-chevrolet-corvette.html




I hope he gets paid at least a little extra now that Fox picked up the 
story from Hagerty.


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Re: My Spidey senses are tingling

2017-01-21 Thread John

Just an off tangent thought, but when I was in the Army, "KP" meant
"Kitchen Police" [in this context "police" means "clean up"] ...

So maybe "KP" means it's a camera for hipster foodies to instagram with?

On 1/20/2017 2:30 PM, Collin B wrote:

As the letter designated bodies are entirely hobbyist and the numbered
bodies are prosumer bodies...

First this ...

I anticipate he KP will probably be a top-of-the-line hobbyist camera. Still
good, but maybe not up to the ruggedness of the 5/3/1 series.  Could be Full
Frame. Because they need a full-frame basic-featured body. Because people
just want to take pictures. Maybe $999.

Then {
This

That will leave room for a new K3 III. Anticipating a new body design that
will improve on circuit size, allowing both GPS & popup flash.  But probably
nothing significant otherwise. A tech step, not a tech leap.

Or

A K2 that makes 24Mp FF practical and inexpensive. That would fill in a
market gap quite nicely. Perhaps $1199.

}

Ok, the tingling has stopped. Bye for now.




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Re: GESO: 2016 -- The Year in Review

2017-01-21 Thread Rick Womer
Dan, you had a very photographically impressive year!

Rick
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:55 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I agree with Mark about Blue and Beige (and I see you took my suggestion
> about getting rid of the wisp of plant) ..
>
> I enjoyed the whole set as a travelogue, and although it is certainly a
> cliche and normally not what I would select, if I were
> doing a pick from that set the other one I'd chose is that Maui sunrise.. .
> I liked your staircase series - but I think you have another one
> from that group that I liked a bit better than the one in this set.. but I
> can't remember...
>
> ann
>
>
> On 1/20/2017 3:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Aloha from Maui!
>>
>> "I took off for a weekend last month
>> Just to try and recall the whole year.
>> All of the faces and all of the places,
>> wonderin' where they all disappeared.
>> I didn't ponder the question too long;
>> I was hungry and went out for a bite.
>> Ran into a chum with a bottle of rum,
>> and we wound up drinkin' all night.
>>
>> It's those changes in latitudes,
>> changes in attitudes nothing remains quite the same.
>> With all of our running and all of our cunning,
>> If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane."
>>
>> Jimmy Buffett
>>
>> In reviewing my images from last year for the PDML Annual, I put together
>> this gallery of images that represent where I went, what I did, and what
>> caught my eye.  They are certainly not great photographs in any sense of
>> that concept, as I am still just an enthusiast rather than an artist, but
>> those that bring back good memories and remind me of why I carry that
>> camera around aall the time instead of relying on my iPhone to record what
>> I see.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095410
>> Comments and criticism are invited.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: OT - DSLR cameras for video at a formal event...

2017-01-21 Thread John

A couple of years back the Chicago Tribune fired all their photographers
& told their reporters to use their iPhones to get photographs to go
along with news articles, so if he was using an actual DSLR, I'm
guessing he was NOT the press.

On 1/20/2017 9:49 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Yes, Paul, I had seen those before.
A typical setup that I had seen (and it makes sense): a "steady" frame,
a mic, and a monitor.

In this case, it was just a bare DSLR, no monitors/mics/.

Cotty: yep, that makes sense, and that's what I was guessing.
But it still looked a bit funny to me... "Big suits" running around with
DSLRs... :)


Igor


 Paul Stenquist Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:29:03 -0800 wrote:

A lot of the press shooters in the D use DSLRs with monitors mounted atop.

Paul via phone



On Jan 20, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 20/1/17, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed:



I just caught a glimpse of the live broadcast of the inauguration.
In front of what I think was the family walking through the halls, there
was a guy with a hand-held DSLR-shaped camera (without any bracket), who
was definitely taking a video.

It's interesting what was the point...

Actually, I kust saw that guy again... I suspect he was not a
videographer, but just one of the staff members...

It's rather interesting and a bit strange to see that..


Might be govt staff or might be press. Not unusual out on the road these
days to see stills guys doing a bit of video for the agency/newspaper
website as required.

It's quite a historic occasion (no matter which part of the political
spectrum one sides with) and a bit of video after samey stills shots
will get plaudits from the boss.





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PESO - Restaurante Lautasco

2017-01-21 Thread Rick Womer
Another from the Alfama district of Lisbon. There are scores of small
restaurants in the maze of narrow streets.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333413

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

Rick

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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread Chris Mitchell
Great advice. Thanks Ken.

On 21 Jan 2017 21:10, "Ken Waller"  wrote:

Hey Chris, don't let him take you to a Leica shop tomorrow

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Chris Mitchell" <
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Subject: More on Don't tell the Missus



I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
> to any Leica shops.
>
> I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
> plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...
>
> Chris
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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele

He Chris, what is Karin's email again? :-)
ann

On 1/21/2017 4:10 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Hey Chris, don't let him take you to a Leica shop tomorrow

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Chris Mitchell" 


Subject: More on Don't tell the Missus



I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
to any Leica shops.

I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...

Chris






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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread Ken Waller

Hey Chris, don't let him take you to a Leica shop tomorrow

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Chris Mitchell" 

Subject: More on Don't tell the Missus



I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
to any Leica shops.

I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...

Chris



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Re: What can be gathered about the new KP.

2017-01-21 Thread Zos Xavius
The K-3 is already pretty small to be honest. Its very close in size
to the KS-2 which was only a hair bigger than the Canon SL1 which
still holds the crown of smallest aps-c DSLR. Due to the sensor/board
construction I don't know how they could make it all that much thinner
to be honest. When you consider there is a sensor, an SR mechanism, a
circuit board directly behind, and then the LCD which also has a
protective layer over it. If I take my K-3 and set it next to my MZ-s
and line up the mounts the K-3 is about a half inch thicker than the
MZ-S. So the sensor and all the related stuff plus the rear screen is
fitting in a space 1/2 inch thick. I think the two bodies are pretty
close in size compared in my hand. The mz-s is actually a little
wider, but not nearly as tall as the K-3 because the k-3 has a huge
pentaprism. I use a grip with the k-3 though so that makes it feel a
lot larger and heavier. I would love to find a grip for my mz-s though
it does feel rather nice and small in the hand by itself with a prime.

The MX I have is about the smallest K-mount camera I own (the ME might
be about the same) but it also packs a lot less into the camera
compared to say an MZ-S.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> It's described as a DSLR, so it's probably not mirrorless.
>
> It's probably not Full Frame.  The K-1 is less than a year old, and the
> current APS-C flagship the K-3[II] was introduced in 2014, and refreshed in
> 2015.  In DSLR product cycles it's Methuselah.
>
> So it's most likely a new Flagship APS-C DSLR.
>
> What I'd like to see is a slimmer camera.  Leica has just released the M10
> which packs it's electronics into a package about the same size as an M-7,
> (as an aside, notice how after dropping model numbers and having their user
> base and the commentariat supply them with unofficial ones, Leica brought
> them back).
>
> What I'm hoping is that RIcoh has decided to use the same improvements in
> technology to build an APS-C DSLR in roughly the same footprint of an LX.
> If they do that and manage to keep the same specifications as the K-3 half
> the arguments for a mirrorless camera lose a lot of their weight, (see what
> i did there, I'm so clever),  which speaking of the size and weight
> advantages of mirrorless has anyone actually compared a K-3II to a Panasonic
> GH5?   The only specification that some might take as an advantage is the
> GH5's weight,
>
> http://camerasize.com/compare/#698,619
>
> Finally I'd like to see a little less convergence.  It's nice to have a DSLR
> that can be used to make videos, however Pentax cameras have been going
> backwards in actually producing good video while larding up the UI with easy
> video access.   Why not do the opposite, give us the option to use SR sensor
> shift on videos, and put up with the noise on the built in microphone,
> (anybody serious is going to use an external mic anyway),  and do away with
> that silly red video record button and replace it with something useful,
> like say a joystick to pick AF sensors just like a lot of other serious
> still cameras have done,  plus actually offer an official replaceable VF
> screen that's actually good for manual focus?
>
> Then again Ricoh may just decide that no one's interested in a flagship
> APS-C camera anymore and just build entry/mid level APS-C bodies based on
> the convergence of the K-50 and K-S2 from now on. Personally I wouldn't be
> surprised, though it would sadden me.
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Re: What can be gathered about the new KP.

2017-01-21 Thread Zos Xavius
The K-3 II sold fairly well and is now discontinued unofficially. This
will be a direct replacement. I wouldn't expect any major differences
from the K-3 II other than an updated AF block (from the K-1, which is
ironically physically the same as the K-3 II apparently), the K-70's
sensor and hopefully somewhat improved video. If they use the same
imaging processor as the K-70 then probably not, but I would
hope/imagine that the new flagship aps-c would have a new Prime
engine. I would imagine the body design will largely stay the same as
the K-3. It does have a new body though, I can at least confirm that
much.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:06 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> It's described as a DSLR, so it's probably not mirrorless.
>
> It's probably not Full Frame.  The K-1 is less than a year old, and the
> current APS-C flagship the K-3[II] was introduced in 2014, and refreshed in
> 2015.  In DSLR product cycles it's Methuselah.
>
> So it's most likely a new Flagship APS-C DSLR.
>
> What I'd like to see is a slimmer camera.  Leica has just released the M10
> which packs it's electronics into a package about the same size as an M-7,
> (as an aside, notice how after dropping model numbers and having their user
> base and the commentariat supply them with unofficial ones, Leica brought
> them back).
>
> What I'm hoping is that RIcoh has decided to use the same improvements in
> technology to build an APS-C DSLR in roughly the same footprint of an LX.
> If they do that and manage to keep the same specifications as the K-3 half
> the arguments for a mirrorless camera lose a lot of their weight, (see what
> i did there, I'm so clever),  which speaking of the size and weight
> advantages of mirrorless has anyone actually compared a K-3II to a Panasonic
> GH5?   The only specification that some might take as an advantage is the
> GH5's weight,
>
> http://camerasize.com/compare/#698,619
>
> Finally I'd like to see a little less convergence.  It's nice to have a DSLR
> that can be used to make videos, however Pentax cameras have been going
> backwards in actually producing good video while larding up the UI with easy
> video access.   Why not do the opposite, give us the option to use SR sensor
> shift on videos, and put up with the noise on the built in microphone,
> (anybody serious is going to use an external mic anyway),  and do away with
> that silly red video record button and replace it with something useful,
> like say a joystick to pick AF sensors just like a lot of other serious
> still cameras have done,  plus actually offer an official replaceable VF
> screen that's actually good for manual focus?
>
> Then again Ricoh may just decide that no one's interested in a flagship
> APS-C camera anymore and just build entry/mid level APS-C bodies based on
> the convergence of the K-50 and K-S2 from now on. Personally I wouldn't be
> surprised, though it would sadden me.
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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread Bob W-PDML
Do you think my genuine-style Donald Trump wig will do it?

> On 21 Jan 2017, at 17:22, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
> to any Leica shops.
> 
> I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
> plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...
> 
> Chris
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Re: More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread mike wilson
> On 21 January 2017 at 17:21 Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
> to any Leica shops.
> 
> I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
> plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...

Start the day with a triple espresso with an espresso shot and she might just be
alert enough.

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More on Don't tell the Missus

2017-01-21 Thread Chris Mitchell
I'm meeting up with Bob W tomorrow. Remind me not to let him take me
to any Leica shops.

I should be OK - Karin's probably coming too, but I'm sure Bob has
plenty of Missus diversionary tactics at his disposal...

Chris

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Re: 2017 Photo Annual Update

2017-01-21 Thread Chris Mitchell
My Pentax outings for this last year have been B film in the MX.  Of
course, the issue is that 1) I need to get off my backside to develop
said film and 2) It then has to be scanned. I've now done 1) and am
scanning like mad. Hopefully will have something to submit within a
few days.

Chris

On 16 January 2017 at 16:22, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> Hmm. To participate this year, I'll either have to pull out the K-01 and snap 
> a few photos or mine my archives for unpublished keepers from my Pentax 
> equipment years.
>
> Examining my archive showed that I didn't use anything but Leica (and 
> Polaroid) gear for all of 2016. I don't see that changing in 2017, except for 
> maybe a bit of 6x6 Hasselblad stuff that I'd like to get to...
>
> G
>
>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>>
>> David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>>> I'm working on it.:-)
>>
>> I got Annsan's photos this morning so it's a good day already!
>>
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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Opening that pic was an oooh, a moment. Excellent!

Paul via phone

> On Jan 21, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Superb. I love the layers.
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On 21 January 2017 at 01:25, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> From a few years back when we went on a walk with Cotty near Oxford.
>> 
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/
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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Chris Mitchell
Superb. I love the layers.

Chris

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Re: GESO: 2016 -- The Year in Review

2017-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele
I agree with Mark about Blue and Beige (and I see you took my suggestion 
about getting rid of the wisp of plant) ..


I enjoyed the whole set as a travelogue, and although it is certainly a 
cliche and normally not what I would select, if I were
doing a pick from that set the other one I'd chose is that Maui 
sunrise.. .  I liked your staircase series - but I think you have 
another one
from that group that I liked a bit better than the one in this set.. but 
I can't remember...


ann

On 1/20/2017 3:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Aloha from Maui!

"I took off for a weekend last month
Just to try and recall the whole year.
All of the faces and all of the places,
wonderin' where they all disappeared.
I didn't ponder the question too long;
I was hungry and went out for a bite.
Ran into a chum with a bottle of rum,
and we wound up drinkin' all night.

It's those changes in latitudes,
changes in attitudes nothing remains quite the same.
With all of our running and all of our cunning,
If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane."

Jimmy Buffett

In reviewing my images from last year for the PDML Annual, I put together
this gallery of images that represent where I went, what I did, and what
caught my eye.  They are certainly not great photographs in any sense of
that concept, as I am still just an enthusiast rather than an artist, but
those that bring back good memories and remind me of why I carry that
camera around aall the time instead of relying on my iPhone to record what
I see.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095410
Comments and criticism are invited.

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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele

MARK! :-)
ann

On 1/21/2017 9:21 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Very Lovely, Mark!




On Jan 20, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

 From a few years back when we went on a walk with Cotty near Oxford.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/





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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 21 Jan 2017, at 16:04, Steve Cottrell 
> wrote:

On 21/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

Aha, think it was White Horse hill.

Very nice!

I'm the one on the lead.


Presumably so you don't worry the sheep.

Well ewe would think so.

Ram a lamb a ding-dong!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SLAKhWpXz2U

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0awJf7OWMmo






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What can be gathered about the new KP.

2017-01-21 Thread P. J. Alling

It's described as a DSLR, so it's probably not mirrorless.

It's probably not Full Frame.  The K-1 is less than a year old, and the 
current APS-C flagship the K-3[II] was introduced in 2014, and refreshed 
in 2015.  In DSLR product cycles it's Methuselah.


So it's most likely a new Flagship APS-C DSLR.

What I'd like to see is a slimmer camera.  Leica has just released the 
M10 which packs it's electronics into a package about the same size as 
an M-7, (as an aside, notice how after dropping model numbers and having 
their user base and the commentariat supply them with unofficial ones, 
Leica brought them back).


What I'm hoping is that RIcoh has decided to use the same improvements 
in technology to build an APS-C DSLR in roughly the same footprint of an 
LX.  If they do that and manage to keep the same specifications as the 
K-3 half the arguments for a mirrorless camera lose a lot of their 
weight, (see what i did there, I'm so clever),  which speaking of the 
size and weight advantages of mirrorless has anyone actually compared a 
K-3II to a Panasonic GH5?   The only specification that some might take 
as an advantage is the GH5's weight,


http://camerasize.com/compare/#698,619

Finally I'd like to see a little less convergence.  It's nice to have a 
DSLR that can be used to make videos, however Pentax cameras have been 
going backwards in actually producing good video while larding up the UI 
with easy video access.   Why not do the opposite, give us the option to 
use SR sensor shift on videos, and put up with the noise on the built in 
microphone, (anybody serious is going to use an external mic anyway),  
and do away with that silly red video record button and replace it with 
something useful, like say a joystick to pick AF sensors just like a lot 
of other serious still cameras have done,  plus actually offer an 
official replaceable VF screen that's actually good for manual focus?


Then again Ricoh may just decide that no one's interested in a flagship 
APS-C camera anymore and just build entry/mid level APS-C bodies based 
on the convergence of the K-50 and K-S2 from now on. Personally I 
wouldn't be surprised, though it would sadden me.



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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 21/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> Aha, think it was White Horse hill.
>> 
>> Very nice!
>> 
>> I'm the one on the lead.
>> 
>
>Presumably so you don't worry the sheep.

Well ewe would think so.


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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Ken Waller

Well captured Mark.

-Original Message-
>From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>Subject: Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while
>
>That is a wonderful composition, with lovely pastel colors.
>
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>
>On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Mark Roberts 
>wrote:
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>> From a few years back when we went on a walk with Cotty near Oxford.
>>
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/
>>
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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Very Lovely, Mark! 



> On Jan 20, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> From a few years back when we went on a walk with Cotty near Oxford.
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/


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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 21 Jan 2017, at 11:25, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 20/1/17, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> From a few years back when we went on a walk with Cotty near Oxford.
>> 
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/
> 
> Aha, think it was White Horse hill.
> 
> Very nice!
> 
> I'm the one on the lead.
> 

Presumably so you don't worry the sheep.


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Re: Pauls photos in the news

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks to all for the nice comments. I hadn't seen this myself. Fox has some 
kind of arrangement with Hagerty and reposts articles from Hagerty's website.

Paul via phone

> On Jan 21, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
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> Thumbs up, Paul!
> 
>> On 21 Jan 2017 00:19, "Gonz"  wrote:
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>> http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/01/20/test-mule-that-
>> helped-save-chevrolet-corvette.html
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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 20/1/17, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>From a few years back when we went on a walk with Cotty near Oxford.
>
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

Aha, think it was White Horse hill.

Very nice!

I'm the one on the lead.

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Re: Pauls photos in the news

2017-01-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Thumbs up, Paul!

On 21 Jan 2017 00:19, "Gonz"  wrote:

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Re: PSEO - because I haven't done one in a while

2017-01-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a wonderful composition, with lovely pastel colors.

Dan Matyola
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