Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Larry Colen]

Jack Davis wrote:

When the camera/lens weight
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.


Have you considered mounting a red dot sight to your hotshoe?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3009695

BTW, in theory I'll be passing through Colusa county on my way up to 
Oregon in the next few days.



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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[steve harley]

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017, at 20:46, Stanley Halpin wrote:

> > Night-time in America's small towns

> >  

> > Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United
> > States.


these are nicely done; what interests me most is trying to put myself in
the head of Brits trying to imagine the US through these pictures


what bugs me most is the naive copy — "risking bites from coyotes,
snakes and scorpions" pshaw!

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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Ken Waller]

I use a Kirk King Cobra head with my 600mm f4.
IMO a gimbal head is almost mandatory with a lense the size and weight of 
the 600.
I've captured birds in flight with it but it almost needs a side mounted 
sight to give you an approximate area where it is pointed. Once captured in 
the viewfinder its easy to swing the lens/camera combo to follow the birds.


Using a ball head seems to be adding another level of complexity to the 
equation as the unclamped head will want to let the lens/camera combo flop 
over.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: Colusa Preserve Activity


Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my 
wish list.


Paul via phone

On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
wrote:


Have you tried a gimbal mount?

e.g., 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html


stan


On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

When the camera/lens weight
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the 
target.

The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:


Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as 
well. Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.


Paul

On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:



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Re: OT - Best laugh in years

[ann sanfedele]

I've seen the whole thing on my news stations in New YOrk twice today 
already!


cute!
ann

On 3/10/2017 5:35 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

This is just hysterical. Honest, if you blocked it out for a comedy film
you couldn't do better. 44 seconds of bliss from BBC news. Youtube link
for those who can't see the BBC UK video.



Priceless.




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Re: OT - Best laugh in years

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017, at 09:35 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> This is just hysterical. Honest, if you blocked it out for a comedy film
> you couldn't do better. 44 seconds of bliss from BBC news. Youtube link
> for those who can't see the BBC UK video.
> 
> 
> 
> Priceless.


My son posted that to his Facebook page - just hilarious!


Cheers

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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[ann sanfedele]

Gonz - It looks like you used info in the photos to solve these...
YOu should definitely do my 48 state puzzle!  You woudl surely be able 
to solve it... I'll send you the link  off list


ann


On 3/10/2017 12:31 PM, Gonz wrote:

See my discovery of where they are.  NV, IA, and OH for several of the pics.


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:43 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

I doesn't really feel like America's small towns so much as California's
small towns.  Maybe some from Texas, or the rest of the South West, but
nothing that looks like The North (East or West), or the Old South.


On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a
link to a BBB photo essay...


Begin forwarded message:

Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
To: s...@stans-photography.info

I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

Night-time in America's small towns
   
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.



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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[ann sanfedele]

GOnz good spotting
thanks!
ann

On 3/10/2017 11:51 AM, Gonz wrote:

Actually several pics are from Tonopah NV and Red Oak IA

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Gonz  wrote:

And the one with the car on blocks in front of the garage is the
Tonopah Garage in Tonopah, NV


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified

ann


On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a
link to a BBB photo essay...


Begin forwarded message:

Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
To: s...@stans-photography.info

I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

Night-time in America's small towns
   
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.



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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[Larry Colen]

Mark Roberts wrote:

I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?


Are you going to mount a thousand obsolete web cams on the wall as a 
digital sensor?






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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 04:05:21PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> > There's a purpose-built camera obscura here in Greenwich, by the Royal
> > Observatory.
> 
> 
> I have been there.  Interesting indeed.

I have been there, too, along with Bob and a few other PDMLers.

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Re: OT - Best laugh in years

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 10.03.17 um 23:35 schrieb Steve Cottrell:

This is just hysterical. Honest, if you blocked it out for a comedy film
you couldn't do better. 44 seconds of bliss from BBC news. Youtube link
for those who can't see the BBC UK video.





Reminds me of my days with British Forces Radio Cologne. Someone reading 
the news and you hear the studio door open. Rattling noise of old-style 
metal bucket. The newsreader stops... "Der rote Licht!!!" Cleaner's 
voice: "No problem Mister. I not come in. Only cleaning here around 
door." - "No, get out!". News resume, now with banging noise in the 
background when she's hitting the outside of the studio door with her 
scrubber.


Pity I've lost the tape recording of that.

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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

No! I know better. To me, this lens' weight does not warrant the 'prox $600, 
but it would be ideal.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
> 
> e.g., 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> When the camera/lens weight 
>> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
>> a tripod is preferable. Hand
>> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
>> The longer reach does make it more
>> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
>> off or as it passes.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
>>> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
>>> 
>>> Paul
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Paul Stenquist]

True. But weight isn't much of a handicap here. I have a nice ball head as well 
(Sirius?), and when it's adjusted perfectly it's almost as good as a gimbal. 
Like you I will maker do for now.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I'm sure a gimbal head would be the ideal answer, but my old Bogen
> Pro Ball will likely have the job for
> awhile.
> My K3 weighs less than your K1. :)
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> I love 
>> Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my 
>> wish list.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
>>> 
>>> e.g., 
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
>>> 
>>> stan
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 When the camera/lens weight 
 is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
 a tripod is preferable. Hand
 holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
 The longer reach does make it more
 difficult to "find" the bird upon take
 off or as it passes.
 
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as 
> well. Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
> 
> Paul
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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OT - Best laugh in years

[Steve Cottrell]

This is just hysterical. Honest, if you blocked it out for a comedy film
you couldn't do better. 44 seconds of bliss from BBC news. Youtube link
for those who can't see the BBC UK video.



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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

Yes, I'm sure a gimbal head would be the ideal answer, but my old Bogen
Pro Ball will likely have the job for
awhile.
My K3 weighs less than your K1. :)
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I love 
> Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my 
> wish list.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
>> 
>> e.g., 
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When the camera/lens weight 
>>> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
>>> a tripod is preferable. Hand
>>> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
>>> The longer reach does make it more
>>> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
>>> off or as it passes.
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
 
 Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as 
 well. Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
 
 Paul
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 
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Re: The Camera Store reviews the K-P

[P. J. Alling]

Watch the review.


On 3/10/2017 3:32 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

1. High ISO is at least 1 stop better than the K-3. Probably more.
2. Movie mode is vastly improved with the return of sensor based
stabilization. It also has much less noise in movie mode. Also the
bitrate has been increased finally. I've seen samples and it was
vastly better than the K-3 ever was.
3. Battery life is about 30% less than the K-3. Not a problem if you
use a grip really or can manage to change a battery every 4-500 shots.
I know that's a huge burden, but I think most people can manage.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:53 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

The ergonomics were obviously worse than the K-7/5/3 just looking at it.
The shutter button placement looks awkward.  The front dial placement looks
awkward.

The  body has been made shorter without actually changing the real footprint
of the camera.  I love the ascetic of the more pointed pentaprism on older
film cameras, but the Super Programesque, LX, (with hot shoe), like
pentaprism of the K-7/5/3 looks better on the thicker body required by
stuffing all the electronics into a camera.

The small grip, which is all you ever see in promotional shots, reminds me
of the grip on the *ist-D which didn't seem really uncomfortable until I
held a Ds.

I never even thought of the rear dial placement, but you know with a *ist-D
grip your thumb would fall on the secondary rear dial, which is where the
*ist-D had it's dial, and all of the grips have that *ist-D look.

I still have a *ist-D, it's got enough problems, after I beat on it for a
while, that it wasn't worth selling, so it sits on a shelf all forlorn,  and
it really is uncomfortable compared to holding a K-5.

I expected the high ISO to be not much better than the K-3 because physics,
and I expected movie mode to be not any better because Pentax.

I expected battery life to be an issue.

The things I erected to be better were.  But there isn't much that's
actually better.

It's like the bad old days of the *ist-D[x] endless variations on a theme,
with no real improvement.  In fact if you owned a Ds/L all you needed was a
firmware upgrade and you got 90% or more of the improvements that the Ds/L
II, (just a bigger rear screen really), version gave you and the only real
difference between a Ds and a DL was the pentamirror in the latter.   Except
now we have an advanced camera, that "looks" like it might be a replacement
for the K-3 in the Pentax product line but isn't.

Maybe they did a rush job to try and take advantage of the success of the
K-1 by putting most of a K-70 into a K-1 like body with a few improvements.
It wouldn't be the first time.



On 3/10/2017 1:49 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Not sure what your biases are, but I think these guys do pretty good
reviews.
I knew nothing about the K-P before seeing this. Very odd to hear that
ergonomics is such a problem with this camera, when that has been one
of Pentax's strong suits, in the past. Good news for any future Pentax
cameras are the improved stabilization system and AF.

It is going to be a long while before I upgrade from my K-3 II, even
when an option is available. It is more than enough camera for my
purposes on terra firma.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:34 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:

Which reinforces all my biases so I'm posting a link to it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSNou9cQq0



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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

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> On 10 Mar 2017, at 22:02, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> Bob W-PDML wrote:
> 
>> There's a purpose-built camera obscura here in Greenwich, by the Royal 
>> Observatory. It's fascinating to watch.  The light enters through a cupola 
>> and is reflected onto a round viewing table. I believe it may be possible to 
>> rotate the cupola to change the view. 
>> 
>> I can't imagine it being too difficult to rig something up, provided you can 
>> get the blackout material.
> 
> Yes, I've been to see the one in Greenwich. And a couple of others,
> too. What I really need to know is about techniques/materials for
> blacking out the room and, most importantly, what size aperture (hole)
> I should use.
> 

I'd have thought some mixture of blackout curtains and cardboard boxes over the 
windows would do it, with some judicious stuffing of lights leaks around the 
door. Start with a small hole in the cardboard with a pencil or biro, and make 
it larger as needed. 
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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

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Bob W-PDML wrote:

>There's a purpose-built camera obscura here in Greenwich, by the Royal 
>Observatory. It's fascinating to watch.  The light enters through a cupola and 
>is reflected onto a round viewing table. I believe it may be possible to 
>rotate the cupola to change the view. 
>
>I can't imagine it being too difficult to rig something up, provided you can 
>get the blackout material.

Yes, I've been to see the one in Greenwich. And a couple of others,
too. What I really need to know is about techniques/materials for
blacking out the room and, most importantly, what size aperture (hole)
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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[Igor PDML-StR]

How many 6"x8" plates can you hang on your wall? ;-)
Aah, those are no longer available.. You'd have to resolve to
2"x3" Fujifilm/Polaroid film:
https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Instax-Mini-Instant-Sheets/dp/B00G6C7XUG/

Cheers,

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Bill Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:50:09 -0800 wrote:

On 3/10/2017 9:17 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?



No, but I would love to see a room sized sensor.

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Re: How I changed the EXIF date/time by 1 year and 3 hours

[Igor PDML-StR]

Aah!...
Your OCD would drive my OCD crazy. ;-)


 John Sessoms Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:22:41 -0800 wrote:

I want to correct the EXIF date/time stamps from where I screwed up
setting the date/time when I first got a K10D without making the Windoze
file date 10 years too late.


I don't think it's doable. I can have one or the other, but not both.

It's like one of those situations where you're pumping gas at $3.999 per
gallon and you want 10 gallons. Which is going to bother you more?

$39.99  OR  $40.00
 10.000 gallons  10.003 gallons

I want it to come out $40.00 AND 10.000 gallons, but it just ain't gonna
do it.



On 3/10/2017 3:31 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




What are you trying to achieve, John?

Igor


John Sessoms Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:58:46 -0800 wrote:

Doesn't do what I want to do whether it's esoteric or not.


I expect there's no way to do what I want that doesn't involve a lot of
resetting the date and time on the computer itself before making the
corrections.



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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[John Sessoms]

You could probably use regular old Tar Paper (roofing felt) & nail it
onto frames made to fit the windows you need to close off, which would
make it easily removable if you can't permanently dedicate a room to it.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/36-in-x-72-ft-216-sq-ft-Felt-Roof-Underlayment/3005598


On 3/10/2017 3:52 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

There's a purpose-built camera obscura here in Greenwich, by the
Royal Observatory. It's fascinating to watch.  The light enters
through a cupola and is reflected onto a round viewing table. I
believe it may be possible to rotate the cupola to change the view.

I can't imagine it being too difficult to rig something up, provided you can 
get the blackout material.


On 10 Mar 2017, at 15:27, Gonz  wrote:

No, always wanted to.  When visiting my Grandparents in a rural
village many years ago, I witnessed a camera obscura of sorts.  There
was a tiny hole in the clay tiles of the roof, the room was extremely
dark and in the late morning I could see the projection through the
hole of the sky on the floor. It was amazing to see the clouds in
fantastic detail in the otherwise dark room.


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?

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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[John Sessoms]

Or maybe a fluid head made for video ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPSQaYnU8M

On 3/10/2017 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Have you tried a gimbal mount?

e.g., 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html

stan


On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

When the camera/lens weight
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.

Paul

On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:





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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Paul Stenquist]

Gimbal heads are great, but a decent one is in the $600 range. It's on my wish 
list.

Paul via phone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried a gimbal mount?
> 
> e.g., 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> When the camera/lens weight 
>> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
>> a tripod is preferable. Hand
>> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
>> The longer reach does make it more
>> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
>> off or as it passes.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
>>> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
>>> 
>>> Paul
 On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: How I changed the EXIF date/time by 1 year and 3 hours

[John Sessoms]

I want to correct the EXIF date/time stamps from where I screwed up
setting the date/time when I first got a K10D without making the Windoze
file date 10 years too late.

I don't think it's doable. I can have one or the other, but not both.

It's like one of those situations where you're pumping gas at $3.999 per
gallon and you want 10 gallons. Which is going to bother you more?

$39.99  OR  $40.00
 10.000 gallons  10.003 gallons

I want it to come out $40.00 AND 10.000 gallons, but it just ain't gonna
do it.



On 3/10/2017 3:31 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



What are you trying to achieve, John?

Igor


 John Sessoms Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:58:46 -0800 wrote:

Doesn't do what I want to do whether it's esoteric or not.


I expect there's no way to do what I want that doesn't involve a lot of
resetting the date and time on the computer itself before making the
corrections.



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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Stanley Halpin]

Have you tried a gimbal mount?

e.g., 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html

stan

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> When the camera/lens weight 
> is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
> a tripod is preferable. Hand
> holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
> The longer reach does make it more
> difficult to "find" the bird upon take
> off or as it passes.
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
>> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
>> 
>> Paul
>>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> There's a purpose-built camera obscura here in Greenwich, by the Royal
> Observatory.


I have been there.  Interesting indeed.

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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[John Sessoms]

Well, Gonz found two of them in Ohio & Iowa.

"Tonopah" turned out to be the one in Nevada rather than the one in
Arizona. I think some of the abandoned gas stations may be along old
Route 66, although the one in old Texaco colors could be either up in
the Four Corners area or down in West Texas Permian Basin - looks like
the terrain I saw along US 67 between San Angelo & Fort Stockton.

The Joshua tree looks like many I saw along the roadside driving US 95
from Phoenix to Kingman, AZ.

American Adventure Expeditions may be one of the whitewater rafting
companies that service south-eastern Colorado out of Cañon City, CO -
along the Arkansas River.

On 3/10/2017 2:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

It seems to be the Great Plains and Sough West Desert, which fade into
each other, and of course lots of California looks like the South West
Desert.


On 3/10/2017 2:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Don't know how much of the United States that actually represents. Looks
like Arizona mostly.

On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is
a link to a BBB photo essay...


Begin forwarded message:

Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
To: s...@stans-photography.info

I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

Night-time in America's small towns
 
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United
States.









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Re: PESO Pouring My Scotch

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On 10 Mar 2017, at 17:35, Steve Cottrell 
> wrote:

On 10/3/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

i don't even want
permanent artwork on my walls.

I read that (rather quickly) and was momentarily discombobulated...


What an aballink idea

http://ploomer.com/soccer-player-gets-testicles-tattooed-as-soccer-balls/

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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

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There's a purpose-built camera obscura here in Greenwich, by the Royal 
Observatory. It's fascinating to watch.  The light enters through a cupola and 
is reflected onto a round viewing table. I believe it may be possible to rotate 
the cupola to change the view. 

I can't imagine it being too difficult to rig something up, provided you can 
get the blackout material.

> On 10 Mar 2017, at 15:27, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> No, always wanted to.  When visiting my Grandparents in a rural
> village many years ago, I witnessed a camera obscura of sorts.  There
> was a tiny hole in the clay tiles of the roof, the room was extremely
> dark and in the late morning I could see the projection through the
> hole of the sky on the floor. It was amazing to see the clouds in
> fantastic detail in the otherwise dark room.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
>> for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?
>> 
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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Larry Colen]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:


The photographer didn't post that information on his site either.
http://danielfreemanphotography.co.uk/galleries/usa-at-night/


Larry, there is a photo of a tree in there that reminded me of your
recent attempts at something similar.


The photo of the Joshua tree?  That does look like something I might 
try. There are a few other photos in there that look close to something 
I might take too.  I do really quite enjoy nighttime photography as it 
allows me to photograph things that I might not otherwise be able to see.




Igor


Mark Roberts Fri, 10 Mar 2017 07:17:45 -0800 wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified



My thoughts exactly.



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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

When the camera/lens weight 
is as heavy as it is with the DFA,
a tripod is preferable. Hand
holding, however, allows a much freer sweeping motion to follow the target.
The longer reach does make it more
difficult to "find" the bird upon take
off or as it passes.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
> Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.
> 
> Paul
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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Re: The Camera Store reviews the K-P

[Larry Colen]

Zos Xavius wrote:

1. High ISO is at least 1 stop better than the K-3. Probably more.
2. Movie mode is vastly improved with the return of sensor based
stabilization. It also has much less noise in movie mode. Also the
bitrate has been increased finally. I've seen samples and it was
vastly better than the K-3 ever was.
3. Battery life is about 30% less than the K-3. Not a problem if you
use a grip really or can manage to change a battery every 4-500 shots.
I know that's a huge burden, but I think most people can manage.


The K-P is not the APS camera for me, or probably for a lot of people. 
Even if it's a clinker, I still commend them for trying new and 
different things, not all innovations work, but that risk is how you get 
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RE: The Camera Store reviews the K-P

[Malcolm Smith]

P. J. Alling wrote:

Which reinforces all my biases so I'm posting a link to it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSNou9cQq0
___

I knew this camera was onto a loser straight away because I like it.

I have changed mine to the largest grip and it still isn't great. My feeling
is that they should ditch the small grip and upsize all of them, so you get
a M, L & XL grip. My all black model does not have construction gap issues.

Yes, I agree with nearly all of his review (I think this guy does good
reviews in general) but he seemed to expect miracles from the high ISO which
is bound to be grainy. My feeling is that most here would not use most of
these images.

Here's the thing; tonight I needed to take pictures of a local bus service
after dark of the last day of operation with operator 'x', before operator
'y' takes over tomorrow with different vehicles. The KP took them at a high
but usable ISO at 1/100th of a second. The K3 I had with me wanted 2 seconds
- all of the pictures I had to take quickly by hand and without a tripod. I
think Pentax called it a camera for snapshots; at high ISO you're not going
to be putting A3 prints on your wall. For someone like me who needs a record
of things taken at night, which until now I haven't been able to get, it's
game changer. No doubt ten years from now major improvements will have been
made. 

There are many short comings with this camera, and I would have much
preferred it a K3 size (that should be a minimum standard size). It is a
niche market camera. You wouldn't be looking at this as a replacement for a
K5 for example - it's not an upgrade, it's a sideways step into a different
area. 

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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[John Sessoms]

39.413999, -81.455274

On 3/10/2017 12:31 PM, Gonz wrote:

And the one with the flags on the Union Block is from Marietta OH.


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified

ann


On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:


Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a
link to a BBB photo essay...


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Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
To: s...@stans-photography.info

I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

Night-time in America's small towns
  
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.




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Re: The Camera Store reviews the K-P

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1. High ISO is at least 1 stop better than the K-3. Probably more.
2. Movie mode is vastly improved with the return of sensor based
stabilization. It also has much less noise in movie mode. Also the
bitrate has been increased finally. I've seen samples and it was
vastly better than the K-3 ever was.
3. Battery life is about 30% less than the K-3. Not a problem if you
use a grip really or can manage to change a battery every 4-500 shots.
I know that's a huge burden, but I think most people can manage.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:53 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> The ergonomics were obviously worse than the K-7/5/3 just looking at it.
> The shutter button placement looks awkward.  The front dial placement looks
> awkward.
>
> The  body has been made shorter without actually changing the real footprint
> of the camera.  I love the ascetic of the more pointed pentaprism on older
> film cameras, but the Super Programesque, LX, (with hot shoe), like
> pentaprism of the K-7/5/3 looks better on the thicker body required by
> stuffing all the electronics into a camera.
>
> The small grip, which is all you ever see in promotional shots, reminds me
> of the grip on the *ist-D which didn't seem really uncomfortable until I
> held a Ds.
>
> I never even thought of the rear dial placement, but you know with a *ist-D
> grip your thumb would fall on the secondary rear dial, which is where the
> *ist-D had it's dial, and all of the grips have that *ist-D look.
>
> I still have a *ist-D, it's got enough problems, after I beat on it for a
> while, that it wasn't worth selling, so it sits on a shelf all forlorn,  and
> it really is uncomfortable compared to holding a K-5.
>
> I expected the high ISO to be not much better than the K-3 because physics,
> and I expected movie mode to be not any better because Pentax.
>
> I expected battery life to be an issue.
>
> The things I erected to be better were.  But there isn't much that's
> actually better.
>
> It's like the bad old days of the *ist-D[x] endless variations on a theme,
> with no real improvement.  In fact if you owned a Ds/L all you needed was a
> firmware upgrade and you got 90% or more of the improvements that the Ds/L
> II, (just a bigger rear screen really), version gave you and the only real
> difference between a Ds and a DL was the pentamirror in the latter.   Except
> now we have an advanced camera, that "looks" like it might be a replacement
> for the K-3 in the Pentax product line but isn't.
>
> Maybe they did a rush job to try and take advantage of the success of the
> K-1 by putting most of a K-70 into a K-1 like body with a few improvements.
> It wouldn't be the first time.
>
>
>
> On 3/10/2017 1:49 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> Not sure what your biases are, but I think these guys do pretty good
>> reviews.
>> I knew nothing about the K-P before seeing this. Very odd to hear that
>> ergonomics is such a problem with this camera, when that has been one
>> of Pentax's strong suits, in the past. Good news for any future Pentax
>> cameras are the improved stabilization system and AF.
>>
>> It is going to be a long while before I upgrade from my K-3 II, even
>> when an option is available. It is more than enough camera for my
>> purposes on terra firma.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:34 PM, P. J. Alling
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Which reinforces all my biases so I'm posting a link to it here.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSNou9cQq0
>>>
>>>
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Re: How I changed the EXIF date/time by 1 year and 3 hours

[Igor PDML-StR]

What are you trying to achieve, John?

Igor


 John Sessoms Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:58:46 -0800 wrote:

Doesn't do what I want to do whether it's esoteric or not.


I expect there's no way to do what I want that doesn't involve a lot of
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Re: The Camera Store reviews the K-P

[P. J. Alling]

The ergonomics were obviously worse than the K-7/5/3 just looking at 
it.  The shutter button placement looks awkward.  The front dial 
placement looks awkward.


The  body has been made shorter without actually changing the real 
footprint of the camera.  I love the ascetic of the more pointed 
pentaprism on older film cameras, but the Super Programesque, LX, (with 
hot shoe), like pentaprism of the K-7/5/3 looks better on the thicker 
body required by stuffing all the electronics into a camera.


The small grip, which is all you ever see in promotional shots, reminds 
me of the grip on the *ist-D which didn't seem really uncomfortable 
until I held a Ds.


I never even thought of the rear dial placement, but you know with a 
*ist-D grip your thumb would fall on the secondary rear dial, which is 
where the *ist-D had it's dial, and all of the grips have that *ist-D look.


I still have a *ist-D, it's got enough problems, after I beat on it for 
a while, that it wasn't worth selling, so it sits on a shelf all 
forlorn,  and it really is uncomfortable compared to holding a K-5.


I expected the high ISO to be not much better than the K-3 because 
physics, and I expected movie mode to be not any better because Pentax.


I expected battery life to be an issue.

The things I erected to be better were.  But there isn't much that's 
actually better.


It's like the bad old days of the *ist-D[x] endless variations on a 
theme, with no real improvement.  In fact if you owned a Ds/L all you 
needed was a firmware upgrade and you got 90% or more of the 
improvements that the Ds/L II, (just a bigger rear screen really), 
version gave you and the only real difference between a Ds and a DL was 
the pentamirror in the latter.   Except now we have an advanced camera, 
that "looks" like it might be a replacement for the K-3 in the Pentax 
product line but isn't.


Maybe they did a rush job to try and take advantage of the success of 
the K-1 by putting most of a K-70 into a K-1 like body with a few 
improvements.  It wouldn't be the first time.



On 3/10/2017 1:49 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Not sure what your biases are, but I think these guys do pretty good reviews.
I knew nothing about the K-P before seeing this. Very odd to hear that
ergonomics is such a problem with this camera, when that has been one
of Pentax's strong suits, in the past. Good news for any future Pentax
cameras are the improved stabilization system and AF.

It is going to be a long while before I upgrade from my K-3 II, even
when an option is available. It is more than enough camera for my
purposes on terra firma.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:34 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:

Which reinforces all my biases so I'm posting a link to it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSNou9cQq0



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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[John Sessoms]

"Tonopah GARAGE" is 250 South Main, Tonopah, NV

38.070270, -117.231938

On 3/10/2017 11:20 AM, Gonz wrote:

Well at least one of the photos is in Red Oak IA.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0089316,-95.2293105,3a,75y,151.07h,88.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sybflDf29fss9sq5iEqZZLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en=0


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified

ann


On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:


Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a
link to a BBB photo essay...


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Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
To: s...@stans-photography.info

I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

Night-time in America's small towns
  
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.




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Re: OT: Liar, liar, pants on fire

[P. J. Alling]

Well, they don't have to.  It's just that the same shoddy manufacturing 
practices that caused Samsung phones to explode are used in making a lot 
of e-cigs.  There are e-cigs that are perfectly safe.  I'd expect that a 
Lawyer could afford better than the cheapest, but hey, what do I know.  
The fun part is that the manufacturer is probably located in China, good 
luck suing them.



On 3/10/2017 1:39 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

No, the newspaper already did that.

What I thought was funny was that it was an *Arson* case.

The only way it could be any funnier would be if it had been a product
liability case where he was defending an e-cigarette manufacturer.

Apparently, e-cigarettes catching fire is fairly common.


On 3/9/2017 3:27 PM, Gonz wrote:

Did you mean Lawyer Lawyer, pants on fire?


On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
 wrote:

That is hilarious!

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:56 AM, John Sessoms 
 wrote:



I kid you not.

Defense attorney in a Miami arson case was making his final 
argument to

the jury when an e-cigarette in his pocket caught fire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/09/lawyer-lawyer-pan
ts-fire-attorneys-trousers-erupt-flames-arson/







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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[P. J. Alling]

It seems to be the Great Plains and Sough West Desert, which fade into 
each other, and of course lots of California looks like the South West 
Desert.



On 3/10/2017 2:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Don't know how much of the United States that actually represents. Looks
like Arizona mostly.

On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is 
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Night-time in America's small towns
 
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United 
States.







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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[John Sessoms]

Don't know how much of the United States that actually represents. Looks
like Arizona mostly.

On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a link to 
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Night-time in America's small towns
 
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Re: How I changed the EXIF date/time by 1 year and 3 hours

[John Sessoms]

Doesn't do what I want to do whether it's esoteric or not.

I expect there's no way to do what I want that doesn't involve a lot of
resetting the date and time on the computer itself before making the
corrections.


On 3/10/2017 10:40 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote:



On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Hi All,

The question of adjusting the time in the EXIF of the photos had come up on 
this list a few times in the past.
This frequently is an issue when you forget to adjust the time zone.

LR provides the possibility to adjust the date and time to a specified value 
(which is inconvenient for multiple photos taken over several days of a trip) 
or to shift by set number of hours (which is limited to +/- 24 hours.

During the recent trip, in addition to my regular bag with Pentax DSLR, I took a 
small P I had to charge the battery, and the date was reset.
So, I made a mistake while setting the date: The date was 1 year (2018), and 3 
hours ahead.
So, I would have died if I had to adjust the time zone in LR 365 times... :-)



I have not followed this thread in detail, you have gone off into Windows 
esoterica beyond my ken. But meanwhile, back to Lightroom, your basic premise 
is wrong. It really is very simple within Lightroom.

YMMV.

On my iMac, Lightroom 6.8 and all earlier versions back as far as I remember, 
it is simple to do a batch change in the Capture Time.

For example, lets say that a whole batch of photos was captured with a 
seriously wonky clock that was 2 years, 3 hours, and 15 seconds off. And you 
have a seriously OCD nerdish requirement to get them all the THE RIGHT time. 
(Been there, done that.)

Select the one or 100 or 1000 files you want to adjust.

Under Metadata, choose Edit Capture Time.

Click on the first button for Adjust to a specified date and time

Lower on the screen you see Original Time: mm/dd/, HH:MM:SS
 andAdjusted Time:  mm/dd/, 
HH:MM:SS


OK, so for example lets say the 1st shot in your selection shows as [09/15/2005 
14:10:00] and the last of your 100 selected shots shows as [09/17/2005 08:27:05]

Adjust the Corrected Time numbers to the intended adjusted OCD approved correct 
time as it applies to the first image in your selection.

Et voila, all 100 images have their metadata adjusted by the equivalent amount 
relative to their start point. This is the key point: the changes you make to 
the first selection are applied relative to each image’s start point, NOT 
absolutely.

Try it.

So, for example

[09/15/2005 14:10:00] + (2 yrs, 3 hours and 15 seconds) = [09/15/2007 17:10:15] 
for the first image in the selection and

[09/17/2005 08:27:05] + (2 yrs, 3 hours and 15 seconds) = [09/17/2007 11:27:20] 
for the last one in the selection, and everything in between is given the 
appropriate adjustment.

BTW, LR warns that “This operation cannot be undone.” Which is wrong of course. 
First of all, you can fiddle with this field as much as you like, including 
setting the date/time back to the original. But you can also just redo your 
selection and from the Metadata menu choose Revert Capture Time to Original.

I typically travel with two DSLRs, plus often something like the WG-2 and my 
wife has her camera. Sometimes I synch times across the several cameras at the 
start of a trip. But the timing may be off a few minutes and/or xx seconds even 
at the start. And then we cross into a new time zone and the GPS thingie auto 
updates the time on some but not all of the cameras. And then we cross into 
another time zone but the GPS doesn’t know that because it is biased to 
Northern Hemisphere. Etc. So when I get home and am reviewing the total 
collection, I will usually have chunks of images out of synch. Example, we are 
watching a pod of whales bubblenet fishing about 50 yards away. She is 
shooting, I am shooting, switching back and forth among two or three cameras. 
Back home I really want to review (and later share) those images in as close to 
the exact time sequence as I can get. Which usually requires some Capture Time 
adjustments and a mental note that next time I really must do a better job 
synching the time on the cameras to begin with.

stan


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Re: The Camera Store reviews the K-P

[Darren Addy]

Not sure what your biases are, but I think these guys do pretty good reviews.
I knew nothing about the K-P before seeing this. Very odd to hear that
ergonomics is such a problem with this camera, when that has been one
of Pentax's strong suits, in the past. Good news for any future Pentax
cameras are the improved stabilization system and AF.

It is going to be a long while before I upgrade from my K-3 II, even
when an option is available. It is more than enough camera for my
purposes on terra firma.

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> Which reinforces all my biases so I'm posting a link to it here.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSNou9cQq0
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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[Bill]

On 3/10/2017 9:17 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?



No, but I would love to see a room sized sensor.

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Re: OT: Liar, liar, pants on fire

[John Sessoms]

No, the newspaper already did that.

What I thought was funny was that it was an *Arson* case.

The only way it could be any funnier would be if it had been a product
liability case where he was defending an e-cigarette manufacturer.

Apparently, e-cigarettes catching fire is fairly common.


On 3/9/2017 3:27 PM, Gonz wrote:

Did you mean Lawyer Lawyer, pants on fire?


On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

That is hilarious!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:56 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:


I kid you not.

Defense attorney in a Miami arson case was making his final argument to
the jury when an e-cigarette in his pocket caught fire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/09/lawyer-lawyer-pan
ts-fire-attorneys-trousers-erupt-flames-arson/




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Re: PESO Pouring My Scotch

[Gonz]

Lol!


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 10/3/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>  i don't even want
>>permanent artwork on my walls.
>
> I read that (rather quickly) and was momentarily discombobulated...
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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Gonz]

I think he means tilt the level so that the tree looks more vertical.


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> I would, however, have messed with the Joshua tree
>> image and given the camera a subtle tilt to the right.
>
>
> I agree, it needs more space to the edge to breathe.
>
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>
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
> Subject: Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
>
>
>>
>> All shots well done. I would, however, have messed with the Joshua tree
>> image and given the camera a subtle tilt to the right. But then, I have
>> issues.
>>
>> J
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ann sanfedele" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:09:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
>>
>> Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a
>>> link to a BBB photo essay...
>>>
 Begin forwarded message:

 Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
 Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
 To: s...@stans-photography.info

 I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

 Night-time in America's small towns
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The Camera Store reviews the K-P

[P. J. Alling]

Which reinforces all my biases so I'm posting a link to it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSNou9cQq0



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Re: PESO Pouring My Scotch

[P. J. Alling]

You sir, have a dirty, dirty mind.


On 3/10/2017 12:34 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 10/3/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


  i don't even want
permanent artwork on my walls.

I read that (rather quickly) and was momentarily discombobulated...




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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Ken Waller]

I would, however, have messed with the Joshua tree
image and given the camera a subtle tilt to the right.


I agree, it needs more space to the edge to breathe.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns




All shots well done. I would, however, have messed with the Joshua tree
image and given the camera a subtle tilt to the right. But then, I have
issues.

J

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:09:35 AM
Subject: Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified

ann

On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a 
link to a BBB photo essay...



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Night-time in America's small towns



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Re: PESO Pouring My Scotch

[Steve Cottrell]

On 10/3/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>  i don't even want 
>permanent artwork on my walls.

I read that (rather quickly) and was momentarily discombobulated...

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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Gonz]

See my discovery of where they are.  NV, IA, and OH for several of the pics.


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:43 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> I doesn't really feel like America's small towns so much as California's
> small towns.  Maybe some from Texas, or the rest of the South West, but
> nothing that looks like The North (East or West), or the Old South.
>
>
> On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>
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>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
>>> Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
>>> To: s...@stans-photography.info
>>>
>>> I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:
>>>
>>> Night-time in America's small towns
>>>   
>>> Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.
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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Gonz]

And the one with the flags on the Union Block is from Marietta OH.


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified
>
> ann
>
>
> On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
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>>>
>>> Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
>>> Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
>>> To: s...@stans-photography.info
>>>
>>> I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:
>>>
>>> Night-time in America's small towns
>>>   
>>> Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice. The Grackle is very sharp and detailed. Good job on the duck as well. 
Shooting birds in flight off a tripod is difficult.

Paul
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 


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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Jack Davis]

Would tilt the tree to the left. It's
lean bothers me.
As I mentioned, I have issues.

J

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> I would, however, have messed with the Joshua tree
>> image and given the camera a subtle tilt to the right.
> 
> Interesting.  Why to the right?
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Re: Liar, liar, pants on fire

[Igor PDML-StR]

When I hear someone (a clerk, a customer-service rep., ...) telling me
"the computer does not allow me ...", that works like the proverbial "red 
cloth" (not even a red herring. ;-) ).


Self-combusting phones, on the hand ...


Igor


Ken Waller Thu, 09 Mar 2017 13:10:18 -0800 wrote:

In some of my trials involving engine control electronics the plaintiff 
would sometimes allude to the issues with home computers that were 
seemingly spontaneous.


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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Gonz]

Actually several pics are from Tonopah NV and Red Oak IA

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> And the one with the car on blocks in front of the garage is the
> Tonopah Garage in Tonopah, NV
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a
>>> link to a BBB photo essay...
>>>
 Begin forwarded message:

 Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
 Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
 To: s...@stans-photography.info

 I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

 Night-time in America's small towns
   
 Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.
>>
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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Gonz]

And the one with the car on blocks in front of the garage is the
Tonopah Garage in Tonopah, NV


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified
>
> ann
>
>
> On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>
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>> link to a BBB photo essay...
>>
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>>> Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
>>> Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
>>> To: s...@stans-photography.info
>>>
>>> I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:
>>>
>>> Night-time in America's small towns
>>>   
>>> Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.
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Re: Colusa Preserve Activity

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Somehow, you managed to make a grackle look attractive!  I also like the
flight posture you caught in the goose image, although the bird reminds me
too much of the hated Canada Geese that befoul everything around here.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
>
> A couple images from a local National Preserve. What else?
> Shot in the last two days.
> After 30 years of scenics and landscapes, this refreshes me.
>
> K3/150-450 on a tripod.
>
> C? Thanks!
>
> J
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Re: How I changed the EXIF date/time by 1 year and 3 hours

[Igor PDML-StR]

Stan, thanks for taking the time to spell it out in detail.
I'll note it for the future needs.

Quoted below is the critical point in all this adjustment procedure in 
LR. It actually crossed my mind that it might do that way, but I hesitated 
a bit... I should have tested on a small subset, but being in a hurry and 
preoccupied with a few other tasks on hand, I chose a "sure shot" method.


Adobe could have done a better job in making it less ambiguous.
When the "Type of Adjustment" lists:
"Adjust to a specified date and time", and another item says
"*SHIFT* by set number of hours ...",
why would one think that it does not set the time to THE SPECIFIED date 
and time, despite what is written?!


And there could be reasons why one would want to set multiple photos to 
the same specific (=absolute) date and time.


Again, thanks for decrypting LR-speak. ;-)

Igor

PS. Now I am thinking that I might have used that functionality once, at 
some point in the distant past.



 Stanley Halpin Fri, 10 Mar 2017 07:43:07 -0800 wrote:

Et voila, all 100 images have their metadata adjusted by the equivalent 
amount relative to their start point. This is the key point: the changes 
you make to the first selection are applied relative to each image’s 
start point, NOT absolutely.


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Colusa Preserve Activity

[Jack Davis]

A couple images from a local National Preserve. What else?
Shot in the last two days.
After 30 years of scenics and landscapes, this refreshes me. 

K3/150-450 on a tripod.

C? Thanks!

J

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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1170

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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Gonz]

Well at least one of the photos is in Red Oak IA.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0089316,-95.2293105,3a,75y,151.07h,88.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sybflDf29fss9sq5iEqZZLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en=0


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified
>
> ann
>
>
> On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>
>> Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a
>> link to a BBB photo essay...
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>> Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
>>> Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
>>> To: s...@stans-photography.info
>>>
>>> I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:
>>>
>>> Night-time in America's small towns
>>>   
>>> Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.
>
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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 10/3/17, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
>for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?

I believe some obscure little English university did it once. They were
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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

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Santa Monica has a Camera Obscura on the beach just north of the pier.
http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/camera-obscura-santa-monica
https://www.kcet.org/history-society/a-most-novel-attraction-the-camera-obscura-of-santa-monica

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> I would, however, have messed with the Joshua tree
> image and given the camera a subtle tilt to the right.
>

Interesting.  Why to the right?

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Re: PESO Pouring My Scotch

[P. J. Alling]

I've never understood why an attractive woman would feel the need to 
have a permanent "artwork" displayed on their body.  I've dated women 
with tatoos and they couldn't really explain it.   i don't even want 
permanent artwork on my walls.


It's a good photograph, technically very good.  Noise is visible but 
very "film like", a great advertisement for the K-1.



On 3/8/2017 9:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

At Adcraft Pool Night.
https://www.photo.net/photo/18361606/untitled




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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Jack Davis]

All shots well done. I would, however, have messed with the Joshua tree
image and given the camera a subtle tilt to the right. But then, I have
issues.

J

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Subject: Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified

ann

On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
> Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a link 
> to a BBB photo essay...
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
>> Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
>> To: s...@stans-photography.info
>>
>> I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:
>>
>> Night-time in America's small towns
>>   
>> Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.


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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Igor PDML-StR]

The photographer didn't post that information on his site either.
http://danielfreemanphotography.co.uk/galleries/usa-at-night/


Larry, there is a photo of a tree in there that reminded me of your recent 
attempts at something similar.


Igor


Mark Roberts Fri, 10 Mar 2017 07:17:45 -0800 wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified



My thoughts exactly.

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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[P. J. Alling]

I doesn't really feel like America's small towns so much as California's 
small towns.  Maybe some from Texas, or the rest of the South West, but 
nothing that looks like The North (East or West), or the Old South.



On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a link to 
a BBB photo essay...


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Subject: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns
Date: March 9, 2017 at 8:53:09 PM EST
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I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

Night-time in America's small towns
  
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.



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Re: How I changed the EXIF date/time by 1 year and 3 hours

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> The question of adjusting the time in the EXIF of the photos had come up on 
> this list a few times in the past.
> This frequently is an issue when you forget to adjust the time zone.
> 
> LR provides the possibility to adjust the date and time to a specified value 
> (which is inconvenient for multiple photos taken over several days of a trip) 
> or to shift by set number of hours (which is limited to +/- 24 hours.
> 
> During the recent trip, in addition to my regular bag with Pentax DSLR, I 
> took a small P I had to charge the battery, and the date was reset.
> So, I made a mistake while setting the date: The date was 1 year (2018), and 
> 3 hours ahead.
> So, I would have died if I had to adjust the time zone in LR 365 times... :-)


I have not followed this thread in detail, you have gone off into Windows 
esoterica beyond my ken. But meanwhile, back to Lightroom, your basic premise 
is wrong. It really is very simple within Lightroom.

YMMV.

On my iMac, Lightroom 6.8 and all earlier versions back as far as I remember, 
it is simple to do a batch change in the Capture Time.

For example, lets say that a whole batch of photos was captured with a 
seriously wonky clock that was 2 years, 3 hours, and 15 seconds off. And you 
have a seriously OCD nerdish requirement to get them all the THE RIGHT time. 
(Been there, done that.)

Select the one or 100 or 1000 files you want to adjust.

Under Metadata, choose Edit Capture Time.

Click on the first button for Adjust to a specified date and time

Lower on the screen you see Original Time: mm/dd/, HH:MM:SS
 andAdjusted Time:  mm/dd/, 
HH:MM:SS


OK, so for example lets say the 1st shot in your selection shows as [09/15/2005 
14:10:00] and the last of your 100 selected shots shows as [09/17/2005 08:27:05]

Adjust the Corrected Time numbers to the intended adjusted OCD approved correct 
time as it applies to the first image in your selection.

Et voila, all 100 images have their metadata adjusted by the equivalent amount 
relative to their start point. This is the key point: the changes you make to 
the first selection are applied relative to each image’s start point, NOT 
absolutely.

Try it.

So, for example

[09/15/2005 14:10:00] + (2 yrs, 3 hours and 15 seconds) = [09/15/2007 17:10:15] 
for the first image in the selection and

[09/17/2005 08:27:05] + (2 yrs, 3 hours and 15 seconds) = [09/17/2007 11:27:20] 
for the last one in the selection, and everything in between is given the 
appropriate adjustment.

BTW, LR warns that “This operation cannot be undone.” Which is wrong of course. 
First of all, you can fiddle with this field as much as you like, including 
setting the date/time back to the original. But you can also just redo your 
selection and from the Metadata menu choose Revert Capture Time to Original.

I typically travel with two DSLRs, plus often something like the WG-2 and my 
wife has her camera. Sometimes I synch times across the several cameras at the 
start of a trip. But the timing may be off a few minutes and/or xx seconds even 
at the start. And then we cross into a new time zone and the GPS thingie auto 
updates the time on some but not all of the cameras. And then we cross into 
another time zone but the GPS doesn’t know that because it is biased to 
Northern Hemisphere. Etc. So when I get home and am reviewing the total 
collection, I will usually have chunks of images out of synch. Example, we are 
watching a pod of whales bubblenet fishing about 50 yards away. She is 
shooting, I am shooting, switching back and forth among two or three cameras. 
Back home I really want to review (and later share) those images in as close to 
the exact time sequence as I can get. Which usually requires some Capture Time 
adjustments and a mental note that next time I really must do a better job 
synching the time on the cameras to begin with.

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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[Alan C]

Google "Grahamstown Camera Obscura" & you'll find some interesting stuff.

Alan C

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I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
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Re: Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[Gonz]

No, always wanted to.  When visiting my Grandparents in a rural
village many years ago, I witnessed a camera obscura of sorts.  There
was a tiny hole in the clay tiles of the roof, the room was extremely
dark and in the late morning I could see the projection through the
hole of the sky on the floor. It was amazing to see the clouds in
fantastic detail in the otherwise dark room.


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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Gonz]

Thanks for that Stan.  I love the pic of the two cars on blocks.


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>> To: s...@stans-photography.info
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>> Night-time in America's small towns
>>  
>> Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.
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Anyone ever turned a room into a camera obscura?

[Mark Roberts]

I'm thinking of making a room-sized camera obscura as an experiment
for my Digital Photography I class. Anyone ever tried it?
 
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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Mark Roberts]

ann sanfedele wrote:

>Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified

My thoughts exactly.


>>> Night-time in America's small towns
>>>   
>>> Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.
 
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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[ann sanfedele]

Love the photos -- annoyed that the town names are not specified

ann

On 3/9/2017 10:46 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Hoping for success sending a forwarded link on to the List,  below is a link to 
a BBB photo essay...


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I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

Night-time in America's small towns
  
Photographer Daniel Freeman's nocturnal journey around the United States.



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Re: OT: BBC News: Night-time in America's small towns

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The Joshua Tree image is stunning!

Also, I love that Photo studio.

Dan Matyola
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Re: CQ -- April PUG theme 20th anniversary -- please reach out!

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry,

You know the geeky "easter egg" in Slim & Slam's song, don't you?
(the link at the bottom of this message)

Igor


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Re: CQ -- April PUG theme 20th anniversary -- please reach out!

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Larry Colen wrote:


On March 6, 2017 5:19:53 AM PST, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


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Igor, you're such a ham!



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Re: mac 32 or 64

[David J Brooks]

Great much appreciated

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Mat Maessen  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:33 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>
>> I plan on upgrading to El 15 soon. Spec's say it needs 64 bit to run I
>> have looked at mid 2010 iMacs 21.5" and ine site said it runs 32/64. I
>> looked at my " about this mac" and i dont see anything about 32 or 64.
>> Does any one know which it is. If its only 32 i assume EL 15 will not
>> run or run poorly
>
>
> Your mac is 64 bit.
>
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Re: mac 32 or 64

[Mat Maessen]

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:33 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> I plan on upgrading to El 15 soon. Spec's say it needs 64 bit to run I
> have looked at mid 2010 iMacs 21.5" and ine site said it runs 32/64. I
> looked at my " about this mac" and i dont see anything about 32 or 64.
> Does any one know which it is. If its only 32 i assume EL 15 will not
> run or run poorly


Your mac is 64 bit.

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mac 32 or 64

[David J Brooks]

I plan on upgrading to El 15 soon. Spec's say it needs 64 bit to run I
have looked at mid 2010 iMacs 21.5" and ine site said it runs 32/64. I
looked at my " about this mac" and i dont see anything about 32 or 64.
Does any one know which it is. If its only 32 i assume EL 15 will not
run or run poorly

Dave

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