Re: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)

[Alan C]

Itchy?

Alan C

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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:30 PM
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Subject: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)

This adorable Spider Monkey is just making sure all is clean. Not sure
but it might not be work safe.

Mexican Spider Monkey grooming himself

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/primates/e90e8aadf

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Re: Leader of the Pack

[Alan C]

Interesting. Do they progressively load the sled?

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel J. Matyola

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:50 AM
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Well, Bandit can pull one by himself:
https://www.photo.net/photo/17632497/bandit-and-sled

Since Mals are not as fast as huskies, they often compete in weight-pulling
contests, a single Malamute pulling a heavily loaded sled.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:


Cute, but can they pull a sled ?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <
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Subject: PESO: Leader of the Pack


Bandit and some of his friends:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
7/22/leader-of-the-pack
Comments are invited

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Re: Leader of the Pack

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Well, Bandit can pull one by himself:
https://www.photo.net/photo/17632497/bandit-and-sled

Since Mals are not as fast as huskies, they often compete in weight-pulling
contests, a single Malamute pulling a heavily loaded sled.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> Cute, but can they pull a sled ?
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <
> danmaty...@gmail.com>
> Subject: PESO: Leader of the Pack
>
>
> Bandit and some of his friends:
>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
>> 7/22/leader-of-the-pack
>> Comments are invited
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
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Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Oldest by far.

Malamutes have been used and bred by the inuit of Northwest Alaska for

 at least a 2-3,000 years.  I read of an ivory carving dated as being
12,000 to 20,000 years old that shows a dog almost identical to the
Malamute we know today.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> I seem to remember reding that the Malamute is considered the oldest
> native American breed of dog.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <
> danmaty...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack
>
>
>
> Thanks, Henk, Larry and Paul!
>>
>> Bandit is not a Husky, Henk, he's and Alaskan Malamute.  Native to
>> Northwest Alaska, and used for heavy freighting, rather than racing.  They
>> are almost twice as big as Siberians, and fortunately a bit calmer.
>>
>> He know which things are his toys, and which are not, and rarely bothers
>> things that are not his.
>>
>> The larger of the stuffed dogs is a Cuddle Clone:
>> https://www.cuddleclones.com/   You give them a lot of images of your
>> pet,
>> and they create a replica.
>>
>> Here is another version of the same scene:
>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/alpha-dog
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Excellent!
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
>>> > On Jul 22, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> >> Bandit and some of his friends:
>>> >> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-
>>> pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
>>> >> Comments are invited
>>> >
>>> > If that were any cuter I'd go into insulin shock
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Dan Matyola
>>> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> >
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>>
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Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack

[Ken Waller]

I seem to remember reding that the Malamute is considered the oldest native 
American breed of dog.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack



Thanks, Henk, Larry and Paul!

Bandit is not a Husky, Henk, he's and Alaskan Malamute.  Native to
Northwest Alaska, and used for heavy freighting, rather than racing.  They
are almost twice as big as Siberians, and fortunately a bit calmer.

He know which things are his toys, and which are not, and rarely bothers
things that are not his.

The larger of the stuffed dogs is a Cuddle Clone:
https://www.cuddleclones.com/   You give them a lot of images of your pet,
and they create a replica.

Here is another version of the same scene:
http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/alpha-dog


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:



Excellent!

Paul via phone

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
>
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> Bandit and some of his friends:
>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-
pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
>> Comments are invited
>
> If that were any cuter I'd go into insulin shock
>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
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Re: Leader of the Pack

[Ken Waller]

Cute, but can they pull a sled ?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: PESO: Leader of the Pack



Bandit and some of his friends:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
Comments are invited

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Re: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)

[PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com]

Really?

I believe he was making sure everything was clean.

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On 7/22/2017 7:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Most people I know don't call that grooming! :-)

Paul via phone


On Jul 22, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

TMI


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From: "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com" 
Subject: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)

This adorable Spider Monkey is just making sure all is clean. Not sure
but it might not be work safe.

Mexican Spider Monkey grooming himself

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/primates/e90e8aadf

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Re: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)

[Paul Stenquist]

Most people I know don't call that grooming! :-)

Paul via phone

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> TMI
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com" 
>> 
>> Subject: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)
>> 
>> This adorable Spider Monkey is just making sure all is clean. Not sure 
>> but it might not be work safe.
>> 
>> Mexican Spider Monkey grooming himself
>> 
>> http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/primates/e90e8aadf
>> 
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Re: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)

[Ken Waller]

TMI


-Original Message-
>From: "PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com" 
>Subject: PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)
>
>This adorable Spider Monkey is just making sure all is clean. Not sure 
>but it might not be work safe.
>
>Mexican Spider Monkey grooming himself
>
>http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/primates/e90e8aadf
>
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>Transportation - Pets - Nature - Scenic - Cityscape. That you can 
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RE: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

[John Coyle]

My CVT will give adequate engine braking to hold it on the limit  at speeds
under 80kmh, for short distances, but by no means as good as a manual box.

John in Brisbane

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ken Waller
Sent: Saturday, 22 July 2017 1:16 PM
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Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

While I did drive a few newer CVT equipped vehicles I didn't drive them
enough to answer your question, however I'd be surprised if you couldn't get
engine compression braking with them going downhill.


-Original Message-
>From: John 
>Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru
>
>How well does it work going down-hill in the mountains so you don't 
>burn out your brakes?
>
>On 7/18/2017 16:01, Ken Waller wrote:
>> I believe one of the benefits the makers of CVTs sought was increased 
>> mileage by tuning the engine/trans to operate in the optimum power 
>> range.
>>
>> However most people, use to the (gear) steps in an automatic find the 
>> constant acceleration to be unusual and to some unnerving, resulting 
>> in customer complaints and their effects on 'things gone wrong'.
>> The inclusion of 'steps' is the manufacturers effort to improve 
>> customer satisfaction.
>> I believe its another case of the industry unleashing 'new' 
>> technology without properly preparing the potential buyers for the 
>> different/unusual characteristics.
>>
>> I've not seen any numbers but the inclusion of these emulated steps 
>> can't have a big effect on overall economy.
>>
>> I also prefer a good manual transmission - I prefer the involvement - 
>> but I've driven some of the better dual clutch vehicles and they are 
>> very hard not to like and generally shift quicker than most can shift 
>> a manual.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Igor PDML-StR" 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IMHO, those emulated steps on top of the CVT are ludicrous.
>>> One of the biggest advantages (and the reasons why CVT was invented 
>>> in the first place) is the stepless, smooth transmission.
>>> So, this "emulation" is undoing the benefit.
>>> And I know that Nissan and Honda (and a few others) are doing that 
>>> horrendous stupidity to satisfy people who need to be jolted every 
>>> time they accelerate. The worst part is that you cannot disable that 
>>> stupid emulation. (That should be very simple - that's a computer
>>> program.)
>>>
>>> I actually enjoy the smoothness I had from the CVT in Nissan Rogue, 
>>> except for the problems, which include the higher-pitched "whining"
>>> sound.
>>>
>>> And yes, I enjoy the manual transmission too, which I've had for 
>>> many years, but now I am giving up on that, as that requirement 
>>> complicates
>>> things: 1) the choice of cars is narrowed significantly and 2) the 
>>> logistics more complicated when my wife's car needs to be serviced, 
>>> or whatever...
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway...
>>>
>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mon Jul 17 11:34:56 EDT 2017 P. J. Alling wrote:
>>>
>>> That's simply because most drivers are used to automatic 
>>> transmissions with discrete gears.  I don't prefer either, given a 
>>> choice I'd take a manual transmission any day.  I'd also like to 
>>> mention the fact that with the current generation of car thieves a 
>>> manual transmission is an unintended anti theft device.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/17/2017 9:59 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
 That constant acceleration - lack of shift feel is subjectively 
 seen by
>>> some drivers as a negative, so much that some manufacturers have 
>>> added a shift feel to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the 
>>> constant acceleration feel.


 -Original Message-
> From: Zos Xavius 
> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru
>
> My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80.
> What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. 
> Just smooth acceleration until you take your foot off the pedal.
>
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Paul Stenquist >> mac.com> wrote:
>> I'd be worried about CVT durability, but for me, the main 
>> drawback is
>>> the driving feel. My 2014 Equinox has an 8-speed automatic, it feels 
>>> great with a peppy 3- liter four, and has been trouble free. Nothing 
>>> but oil changed thus far.
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Mark C 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Igor -
>>>
>>> I'm certainly happy with Subaru's decision to extend the 
>>> warranty on
>>> their CVT's and to provide retroactive compensation. I don't expect 
>>> to be using the money for a new lens. I'm pretty happy with the 
>>> lenses I have - turns out that hanging onto good full frame glass 
>>> was not a mistake The 

Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Henk, Larry and Paul!

Bandit is not a Husky, Henk, he's and Alaskan Malamute.  Native to
Northwest Alaska, and used for heavy freighting, rather than racing.  They
are almost twice as big as Siberians, and fortunately a bit calmer.

He know which things are his toys, and which are not, and rarely bothers
things that are not his.

The larger of the stuffed dogs is a Cuddle Clone:
https://www.cuddleclones.com/   You give them a lot of images of your pet,
and they create a replica.

Here is another version of the same scene:
http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/alpha-dog


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Excellent!
>
> Paul via phone
>
> > On Jul 22, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >> Bandit and some of his friends:
> >> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-
> pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
> >> Comments are invited
> >
> > If that were any cuter I'd go into insulin shock
> >
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent!

Paul via phone

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> Bandit and some of his friends:
>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
>> Comments are invited
> 
> If that were any cuter I'd go into insulin shock
> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack

[Larry Colen]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Bandit and some of his friends:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
Comments are invited


If that were any cuter I'd go into insulin shock



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Re: PESO: Leader of the Pack

[Henk Terhell]

Great fun! Looks like not all will survive however if unattended, 
knowing the habits of huskys.


Henk

Op 2017-07-22 om 21:43 schreef Daniel J. Matyola:

Bandit and some of his friends:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
Comments are invited

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Re: PESO Bathing Together

[Bruce Walker]

No, that would not be a bad thing at all. Highly desirable, in fact.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:28 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Would that be such a bad thing?
>
> Most social media seems to be a waste of time that could be better used in
> some other activity...
>
> Taking pictures for example.
>
>
>
> On 7/22/2017 9:43 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> If everyone thought like that social media would collapse.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:13 AM, John  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to refrain from commenting unless/until I have something
>>> worth contributing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/21/2017 21:50, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 You are right, Paul.  The level of feedback here sadly is diminishing.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

 On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Paul Stenquist 
 wrote:

> In truth, it's the only way to get a response. I get much more Feedback
> on Facebook. PDML is good for obscure computer coding info and finding
> out
> if people are okay in natural disasters. (As one would expect, they
> always
> are.)
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Bruce Walker 
>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Marking something NSFW here makes even the crickets go silent.
>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> A joke. Trying to get a few looks which is tough here.
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:49 PM, John  wrote:
>
> On 7/18/2017 19:07, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Bathing together. NSFW
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18408836/bathing-together
>
 NSFW


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PESO: Leader of the Pack

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Bandit and some of his friends:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/leader-of-the-pack
Comments are invited

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PESO: Spider Monkey Grooming (for some it might be NSFW)

[PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com]

This adorable Spider Monkey is just making sure all is clean. Not sure 
but it might not be work safe.


Mexican Spider Monkey grooming himself

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/primates/e90e8aadf

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Re: Lightroom's handling of over/under exposed areas in images

[Rick Womer]

Eric,

In the Develop module, look at the triangles in the upper corners of the 
histogram.

If they’re white, the colors you mention show up in the under- or over- exposed 
areas of the image.

If you click on them they turn black, and the blue and red areas disappear.

I find the underexposure indicator helpful in setting the black point, 
personally. My experience is that the overexposure indicator can be turned on, 
the image not showing any red, but still with enough overexposure to blot out 
any detail or contrast.

Cheers,

Rick

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> Lately, i’ve been experiencing bright reds in overexposed white-ish areas in 
> images in LR and bright-blue in underexposed black-ish areas. I’m always able 
> to eliminate the latter by backing off the black in tone controls. Most of 
> the time I can do the same with the former by backing off the highlights or 
> white, but increasingly frequently It seems I unable to eliminate the bright 
> reds no matter how much I back off highlights or white.
> 
> So, a couple questions: Why am I seeing this recently when I don’t think I 
> ever did in the past? Is there anything I can do to eliminate the brightness 
> reds other than backing off highlights and white in tone controls?
> 
> A couple of things that may be involved. It may be that this started when I 
> started shooting with a Fuji X-M1 mirrorless. Second, even in low-light 
> settings I’ve been shooting at low levels of sensitivity—no more than 800—and 
> then adjusting exposure in processing. 
> 
> Education appreciated. 
> 
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> 
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Re: GESO (7) - Fair in the Park

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, gents. 

Dan, I think those are my favorites too.

Rick

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Fun pics. Enjoyable.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice set.  I especially like the images of the hats and the shoes.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The park at the end of our block hosts many events in the summer. Last
>>> Saturday it was a Music and Arts Festival, with many local craftspeople
>>> showing their wares, and bands (of varying quality) providing music. My
>>> wife and I (and my K-5) wandered around there.
>>> 
>>> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/PESOs-2017/Fair-in-the-Park/
>>> 
>>> Comments appreciated.
>>> 
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Re: Edward S. Curtis Exhibit

[Ken Waller]

My wife and I traveled to Muskegon last week to experience the exhibit - it 
was well worth the investment of time and money.
We spent roughly 4 hours looking at the entire exhibit but could have spent 
more.


It was interesting to note that the tribes he covered were all western - I 
don't think he covered any tribe east of the Mississippi.
He was self taught and even made his first camera. He certainly understood 
compositions and the value of quality light.

His portraits were my favorite - he did have very photogenic subjects.

The supplementary displays were extremely informative, filling in much that 
was not conveyed photographically.
This exhibit was 2 years in the planning and must have cost the museum a lot 
with all the mounting and framing involved - the prints were initially 
available in 'loose leaf' books.


A docent remarked that the images were originally sold as subscriptions 
($3000 in the 1900's) to complete volumes of his work and that he did not 
sell the full number of subscription he planned on selling.


He died in poverty.

Go there if you can !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" 

Subject: Edward S. Curtis Exhibit


I went to Muskegon Michigan today to see an exhibit of Edwin S Curtis's 
North American Indian prints. It was an excellent and massive exhibit, well 
worth a visit.  I doubt that many PDMLer's are nearby, but in case anyone 
is passing that way...


All 723 of Curtis' prints were on display - the full set. The museum 
believes this is the first time the entire set has been displayed. I 
wondered how a fairly small museum got this exhibit and where it would go 
next. As it turns out the Muskegon public library was one of the 200+ 
subscribers to the original project and received the books and 
photogravure prints as they were published. A docent told me that at this 
time there were no plans to travel the show.


My only complaint - 723 prints plus supplemental displays is a bit 
overwhelming - I plan another visit or two over the summer.


Here are a few cell phone snaps of some of the exhibits:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/edward-s-curtis-exhibit?blog=9

And the museums webpage:

http://www.muskegonartmuseum.org/exhibition/edward-s-curtis-north-american-indian/



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Re: Lightroom's handling of over/under exposed areas in images

[Ken Waller]

Eric,
I'm not familiar with Lightroom or the Fuji, but I've run into similar 
issues with my K-3 and Photoshop. I've overcome it by looking at the image 
in the RGB histogram and adjusting the offending color to reduce that 
particular offending color channel.


HTH

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- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Weir" 

Subject: Lightroom's handling of over/under exposed areas in images




Lately, i’ve been experiencing bright reds in overexposed white-ish areas 
in images in LR and bright-blue in underexposed black-ish areas. I’m 
always able to eliminate the latter by backing off the black in tone 
controls. Most of the time I can do the same with the former by backing 
off the highlights or white, but increasingly frequently It seems I unable 
to eliminate the bright reds no matter how much I back off highlights or 
white.


So, a couple questions: Why am I seeing this recently when I don’t think I 
ever did in the past? Is there anything I can do to eliminate the 
brightness reds other than backing off highlights and white in tone 
controls?


A couple of things that may be involved. It may be that this started when 
I started shooting with a Fuji X-M1 mirrorless. Second, even in low-light 
settings I’ve been shooting at low levels of sensitivity—no more than 
800—and then adjusting exposure in processing.


Education appreciated.

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Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

[Larry Colen]

John Francis wrote:

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 01:05:14AM -0400, John wrote:

Not that worried about saving gas there.

A long down-hill with an automatic transmission means using the brakes
all the way. Even if you're pumping&  releasing, you can end up with
your brakes getting burnt up.

I've done it in automatic transmission cars in low gear, but the didn't
provide enough engine braking. Still had to brake a whole lot&  ended up
with hot, failing brakes at the bottom.


I've only had one car where the brakes ever got hot enough to work
at noticeably reduced efficiency, and that was my old Morris Minor
back in the 1970s (before disc brakes came into common use).
Even towing and slowing a caravan through hilly Welsh countryside,
or driving down the Mount Washington auto road back in the days
when it wasn't paved all the way to the top, weren't any problem.
And that was done pretty much using mainly the brakes, ever since
a mechanic asked me why I'd even consider putting extra strain on
the transmission to reduce wear on the brake pads.


I was having that trouble with the brakes getting hot and going away in 
my 2000 impreza a couple of months ago, but I installed some cooling 
vents and last month, rather than the brakes getting hot and fading 
after a couple of laps, they'd last the whole session.


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Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 01:05:14AM -0400, John wrote:
> Not that worried about saving gas there.
> 
> A long down-hill with an automatic transmission means using the brakes
> all the way. Even if you're pumping & releasing, you can end up with
> your brakes getting burnt up.
> 
> I've done it in automatic transmission cars in low gear, but the didn't
> provide enough engine braking. Still had to brake a whole lot & ended up
> with hot, failing brakes at the bottom.

I've only had one car where the brakes ever got hot enough to work
at noticeably reduced efficiency, and that was my old Morris Minor
back in the 1970s (before disc brakes came into common use).
Even towing and slowing a caravan through hilly Welsh countryside,
or driving down the Mount Washington auto road back in the days
when it wasn't paved all the way to the top, weren't any problem.
And that was done pretty much using mainly the brakes, ever since
a mechanic asked me why I'd even consider putting extra strain on
the transmission to reduce wear on the brake pads.

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Re: GESO: County Fair

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Mark. Good to know.

Paul
> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> Gallery came up fine for me - no NSFW warning. Nice collection of photos - 
> both people and animals (and the truck pull)...
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Goodells, Michigan, site of the St Clair County 4H Fair,  is the real thing. 
>> It’s at the base of what we call the thumb, far removed from metro Detroit 
>> and about 20 miles west of Port Huron. It’s an agricultural area, with a lot 
>> of livestock and dairy. Many of the kids participate in the 4H agricultural 
>> programs from the time they’re old enough to walk. They raise animals, then 
>> show them and sell them at the fair. There are some show animals, 
>> particularly horses, but most are what they call “market animals.” Livestock 
>> that will be sold at auction and slaughtered at one of the local facilities 
>> that specialize in that. The kids handle the whole deal, right up to loading 
>> the animals for transport to the slaughter house. I asked a lady I know who 
>> has raised six kids and countless grandchildren up there if the kids don’t 
>> get upset when their animals are sold. “No,” she said. “That never occurs to 
>> them. They know that dogs, cats and horses are pets, and most of the other 
>> animals are food.” She told me that her 9 year old granddaughter, who had 
>> raised a hog named Sparkle, asked grandma to buy her at the auction. “I want 
>> to see what she tastes like,” she said, quite innocently. Sparkle, like the 
>> other animals is food, not a pet.
>> 
>> Some of this may seem heartless to us city folk. In the gallery, you’ll see 
>> youngsters forcing lambs to pose in a way that shows off their meaty legs. 
>> The lambs, quite frankly, didn’t see, to mind. They’ve been practicing that 
>> pose since they were old enough to stand. The Grand Champion Wether lamb, 
>> which was raised by a teenage boy, sold for $4.50 a pound, and he was a 
>> stout animal. (A Wether lamb, I learned is a castrated Ram.) An interesting 
>> day to say the least.
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/gallery/1107284#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1
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Re: GESO: County Fair

[Mark C]

Gallery came up fine for me - no NSFW warning. Nice collection of photos 
- both people and animals (and the truck pull)...


Paul Stenquist wrote:

Goodells, Michigan, site of the St Clair County 4H Fair,  is the real thing. 
It’s at the base of what we call the thumb, far removed from metro Detroit and 
about 20 miles west of Port Huron. It’s an agricultural area, with a lot of 
livestock and dairy. Many of the kids participate in the 4H agricultural 
programs from the time they’re old enough to walk. They raise animals, then 
show them and sell them at the fair. There are some show animals, particularly 
horses, but most are what they call “market animals.” Livestock that will be 
sold at auction and slaughtered at one of the local facilities that specialize 
in that. The kids handle the whole deal, right up to loading the animals for 
transport to the slaughter house. I asked a lady I know who has raised six kids 
and countless grandchildren up there if the kids don’t get upset when their 
animals are sold. “No,” she said. “That never occurs to them. They know that 
dogs, cats and horses are pets, and most of the other animals are food.” She 
told me that her 9 year old granddaughter, who had raised a hog named Sparkle, 
asked grandma to buy her at the auction. “I want to see what she tastes like,” 
she said, quite innocently. Sparkle, like the other animals is food, not a pet.

Some of this may seem heartless to us city folk. In the gallery, you’ll see 
youngsters forcing lambs to pose in a way that shows off their meaty legs. The 
lambs, quite frankly, didn’t see, to mind. They’ve been practicing that pose 
since they were old enough to stand. The Grand Champion Wether lamb, which was 
raised by a teenage boy, sold for $4.50 a pound, and he was a stout animal. (A 
Wether lamb, I learned is a castrated Ram.) An interesting day to say the least.

https://www.photo.net/gallery/1107284#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1




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Re: Refugees' guide to Europe

[mike wilson]

"Welcome to America!  Here is a greeting from _our_ Magnum!"

Just thought I would beat President Tweety Pie to the punchline

> On 22 July 2017 at 10:35 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Almost worth becoming a refugee for this great effort:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/17/guidebook-refugees-magnum-photographers-introduce-europe
> 
> 
> 
> Digital version:
> http://www.arabculturefund.org/projects/project.php?id=1
> 
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Lightroom's handling of over/under exposed areas in images

[Eric Weir]

Lately, i’ve been experiencing bright reds in overexposed white-ish areas in 
images in LR and bright-blue in underexposed black-ish areas. I’m always able 
to eliminate the latter by backing off the black in tone controls. Most of the 
time I can do the same with the former by backing off the highlights or white, 
but increasingly frequently It seems I unable to eliminate the bright reds no 
matter how much I back off highlights or white.

So, a couple questions: Why am I seeing this recently when I don’t think I ever 
did in the past? Is there anything I can do to eliminate the brightness reds 
other than backing off highlights and white in tone controls?

A couple of things that may be involved. It may be that this started when I 
started shooting with a Fuji X-M1 mirrorless. Second, even in low-light 
settings I’ve been shooting at low levels of sensitivity—no more than 800—and 
then adjusting exposure in processing. 

Education appreciated. 

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Re: PESO Bathing Together

[Ken Waller]

No, at the moment photo.net is a joke.


-Original Message-
>From: John 
>Subject: Re: PESO Bathing Together
>
>I missed the joke I guess because of the other Photo.net problem.
>
>On 7/21/2017 18:14, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> A joke. Trying to get a few looks which is tough here.
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:49 PM, John  wrote:
>>>
 On 7/18/2017 19:07, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Bathing together. NSFW
 https://www.photo.net/photo/18408836/bathing-together

>>>
>>> NSFW
>>>
>
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Re: are we down?

[mike wilson]

But are you (or any of us, for that matter) DWTK?

https://youtu.be/VtAy0AhKKsk


> On 22 July 2017 at 07:48 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was down for eight hours. Did a lot of good. Now the morning coffee is
> brewing, and all is good. In this time zone anyway. :-) 
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 22. juli 2017 00.00.57 CEST, skrev John :
> >It's right at 6:00pm EDT as I read this. Everything copacetic here.
> >
> >On 7/21/2017 13:34, Doug Brewer wrote:
> >> Just checking before firing up the chickens
> >>
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Re: PESO Bathing Together

[P. J. Alling]

Would that be such a bad thing?

Most social media seems to be a waste of time that could be better used 
in some other activity...


Taking pictures for example.


On 7/22/2017 9:43 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

If everyone thought like that social media would collapse.


On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:13 AM, John  wrote:

I'm trying to refrain from commenting unless/until I have something
worth contributing.


On 7/21/2017 21:50, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

You are right, Paul.  The level of feedback here sadly is diminishing.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


In truth, it's the only way to get a response. I get much more Feedback
on Facebook. PDML is good for obscure computer coding info and finding
out
if people are okay in natural disasters. (As one would expect, they
always
are.)

Paul via phone


On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Bruce Walker 

wrote:


Marking something NSFW here makes even the crickets go silent.


On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Paul Stenquist 

wrote:


A joke. Trying to get a few looks which is tough here.

Paul via phone


On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:49 PM, John  wrote:

On 7/18/2017 19:07, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Bathing together. NSFW
https://www.photo.net/photo/18408836/bathing-together


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Re: PESO: Cowgirl in the cupboard

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Steve. Good idea. I'll do it.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 21/7/17, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Is this it?
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18409135/2970
> 
> That's it - great pic.
> 
> I would love to see this rendered in black and white.
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Re: PESO Bathing Together

[Bruce Walker]

If everyone thought like that social media would collapse.


On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:13 AM, John  wrote:
> I'm trying to refrain from commenting unless/until I have something
> worth contributing.
>
>
> On 7/21/2017 21:50, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> You are right, Paul.  The level of feedback here sadly is diminishing.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In truth, it's the only way to get a response. I get much more Feedback
>>> on Facebook. PDML is good for obscure computer coding info and finding
>>> out
>>> if people are okay in natural disasters. (As one would expect, they
>>> always
>>> are.)
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
 On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Bruce Walker 
>>>
>>> wrote:


 Marking something NSFW here makes even the crickets go silent.

> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>>>
>>> wrote:
>
>
> A joke. Trying to get a few looks which is tough here.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:49 PM, John  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2017 19:07, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> Bathing together. NSFW
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18408836/bathing-together
>>>
>>
>> NSFW
>>
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Re: PESO: Cowgirl in the cupboard

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On 21/7/17, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Is this it?
>
>https://www.photo.net/photo/18409135/2970

That's it - great pic.

I would love to see this rendered in black and white.


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Re: PESO Bathing Together

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On 22/7/17, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm trying to refrain from commenting unless/until I have something
>worth contributing.

Ditto.

D'OH

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PESO: White Rose of Sharon

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Another from our patio:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/22/white-rose-of-sharon
K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 Macro
Comments and criticisms alike are appreciated.
Dan

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Re: PESO: Cowgirl in the cupboard

[Paul Stenquist]

I'm getting better at working with the new format, but it's been a struggle. I 
was able to post this gallery quite easily, but then had trouble generating a 
link to this single image. I think it's most difficult on a phone.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> It has certainly alienated me.
> 
> The old Photo.net was an almost perfect fit for myneeds.  I have extreme
> difficulties posting, locating images and generating links with the new
> system.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:16 AM, P. J. Alling 
> wrote:
> 
>> I believe that photo.net is attempting to commit electronic suicide.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/21/2017 7:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep. Thinks Dan. Photo.net doesn't make it easy!
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
 wrote:
 
 Is this it?
 
 https://www.photo.net/photo/18409135/2970
 
 I hit view/new window from the gallery view, and copied the URL from
 there.
 
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
> 
> Me too. Now I copied the URL with the pic open:
> https://www.photo.net/464979#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/Al
> l-Time/Page-1
> But it's the same.!! I don't get it.
> 
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> 
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> The link seems to take me to your bio page on Photo.net.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist <
>> pnstenqu...@comcast.net
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Shot in a dark barn, so it’s noisy, but I like it.
>>> 
>>> https://www.photo.net/464979#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/
>>> 
>> All-Time/Page-1
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Re: Peso: Lock (with URL)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

75.  I never imagined I would live this long.


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On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:15 AM, John  wrote:

> You're not that old.
>
>
> On 7/21/2017 23:43, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> I tried to post this before, but left out the URL!
>> What a senile old idiot!
>>
>> Passing through a lock on the Seine, near Auvers-sur-Oise:
>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/21/lock
>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
>> Comments are criticisms are invited
>>
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Re: PESO: Cowgirl in the cupboard

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It has certainly alienated me.

The old Photo.net was an almost perfect fit for myneeds.  I have extreme
difficulties posting, locating images and generating links with the new
system.


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On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:16 AM, P. J. Alling 
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> I believe that photo.net is attempting to commit electronic suicide.
>
>
> On 7/21/2017 7:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>> Yep. Thinks Dan. Photo.net doesn't make it easy!
>>
>> Paul via phone
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>>
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this it?
>>>
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18409135/2970
>>>
>>> I hit view/new window from the gallery view, and copied the URL from
>>> there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Paul Stenquist 
 wrote:

 Me too. Now I copied the URL with the pic open:
 https://www.photo.net/464979#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/Al
 l-Time/Page-1
 But it's the same.!! I don't get it.

 Paul via phone

 On Jul 21, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>
 wrote:

> The link seems to take me to your bio page on Photo.net.
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist <
> pnstenqu...@comcast.net
>
> wrote:
>
> Shot in a dark barn, so it’s noisy, but I like it.
>>
>> https://www.photo.net/464979#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/
>>
> All-Time/Page-1

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Re: Refugees' guide to Europe

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Quite interesring.  Thanks for sharing the link.

"Dworzak received a grant from the Magnum Foundation to kickstart the
project."

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On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> Almost worth becoming a refugee for this great effort:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/
> 17/guidebook-refugees-magnum-photographers-introduce-europe
>
>
>
> Digital version:
> http://www.arabculturefund.org/projects/project.php?id=1
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Refugees' guide to Europe

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Almost worth becoming a refugee for this great effort:

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Re: are we down?

[Jostein Øksne]

I was down for eight hours. Did a lot of good. Now the morning coffee is 
brewing, and all is good. In this time zone anyway. :-) 
Jostein 

Den 22. juli 2017 00.00.57 CEST, skrev John :
>It's right at 6:00pm EDT as I read this. Everything copacetic here.
>
>On 7/21/2017 13:34, Doug Brewer wrote:
>> Just checking before firing up the chickens
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Re: PESO: Cowgirl in the cupboard

[P. J. Alling]

I believe that photo.net is attempting to commit electronic suicide.


On 7/21/2017 7:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Yep. Thinks Dan. Photo.net doesn't make it easy!

Paul via phone


On Jul 21, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Is this it?

https://www.photo.net/photo/18409135/2970

I hit view/new window from the gallery view, and copied the URL from there.


Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Me too. Now I copied the URL with the pic open:
https://www.photo.net/464979#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1
But it's the same.!! I don't get it.

Paul via phone


On Jul 21, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 

wrote:

The link seems to take me to your bio page on Photo.net.


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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist