Re: January best of

[ann sanfedele]

the first two are my faves of your faves...
But I bet you knew that :-)

ann

On 2/6/2018 12:25 AM, John wrote:

On 2/5/2018 20:58, Larry Colen wrote:

I've been having a lot of life happening to me recently, I'm finally
caught up processing photos from January, so here's my monthly "best of"
set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157692036993885



Yeah. Me to. Unfortunately, the life that's been happening here hasn't 
provided any opportunities for me to get outside with a camera.






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Re: K-1 discontinued (mk ii version likely)

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent. I love my K-1, but an upgraded version would be welcome. 

Paul

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
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K-1 discontinued (mk ii version likely)

[Darren Addy]

https://fstoppers.com/gear/pentax-officially-discontinues-excellent-k-1-camera-mark-ii-version-likely-219429
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Re: February PUG is up

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks, Rick...
I like Gonz's calabaza, a lot , too...

my personal fave, though , is Alan's pied kingfisher.

ann (starting to come out from under the flu haze)

On 2/7/2018 9:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

My favorites:

I like AnnSan’s balloons; it’s an interesting composition of a well-used 
subject.

Gonz’s Calabaza has great color and a simple composition.

Joe’s Forbidden City has a great subject and color, and a whimsical composition 
that fits the subject.

Rick



On Feb 6, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

G'day all,

The largest gallery for some time with some interesting interpretations.  Well
done all!

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'Arches'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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You can submit here:

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Cheers
Brian
++
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Re: January best of

[Larry Colen]

Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback.  I've been recalibrating my 
monitors so I'm very interested in how the exposure/brightness levels 
work for folks.


Igor PDML-StR wrote:



One photo from this set keeps attracting my attention: the one with the
S.C. hat.

The panorama is done nicely, - but I've noticed an interesting effect:
you (I) spend time working on a panorama, enjoy the process, get the
result, and then people are not that much excited to look at it...

I guess, this is because panoramas are hard to see (they require
scrolling), and for the most part they are lacking a single "attention
focus" that people are used to in a photograph.
It is in a way similar to the difference between a novel (with its
multiple events are story lines happening in parallel) and a
short story or novella (with a compact and pointed plot).

BTW, I think there is a similar effect with a "3D" panoramas in museums:
it seems to me that many people do not spend time looking at the
multitude of the details and things happening in a complex panorama (or
a 3D model
worlds).
An exception might be when something is moving in those, attracting
attention, such as in the Hamburg's "Miniatur Wunderland":
http://www.miniatur-wunderland.com/
(watch the video)
The coolest part, IMHO, is the airport:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9IlPDOar7E
(I haven't seen this place myself.)

But I digress...

The pinecones is an interesting photo, but it looks dark. It is not
necessarily the brightness. It's just that the complex details are not
popping out.
I don't know what should be done, - but I'd try to play with the
fill-in light (boosting up shadow areas), "vibrance", and "presence"
sliders in LR.

Cheers,

Igor



Larry Colen Mon, 05 Feb 2018 17:59:20 -0800 wrote:

I've been having a lot of life happening to me recently, I'm finally
caught up processing photos from January, so here's my monthly "best of"
set:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157692036993885



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Re: February PUG is up

[Rick Womer]

My favorites:

I like AnnSan’s balloons; it’s an interesting composition of a well-used 
subject.

Gonz’s Calabaza has great color and a simple composition.

Joe’s Forbidden City has a great subject and color, and a whimsical composition 
that fits the subject.

Rick


> On Feb 6, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> G'day all,
> 
> The largest gallery for some time with some interesting interpretations.  Well
> done all!
> 
> View here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'Arches'.
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: January best of

[Igor PDML-StR]

One photo from this set keeps attracting my attention: the one with the 
S.C. hat.


The panorama is done nicely, - but I've noticed an interesting effect: you 
(I) spend time working on a panorama, enjoy the process, get the result, 
and then people are not that much excited to look at it...


I guess, this is because panoramas are hard to see (they require 
scrolling), and for the most part they are lacking a single "attention 
focus" that people are used to in a photograph.
It is in a way similar to the difference between a novel (with its 
multiple events are story lines happening in parallel) and a

short story or novella (with a compact and pointed plot).

BTW, I think there is a similar effect with a "3D" panoramas in museums:
it seems to me that many people do not spend time looking at the multitude 
of the details and things happening in a complex panorama (or a 3D model

worlds).
An exception might be when something is moving in those, attracting 
attention, such as in the Hamburg's "Miniatur Wunderland":

http://www.miniatur-wunderland.com/
(watch the video)
The coolest part, IMHO, is the airport:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9IlPDOar7E
(I haven't seen this place myself.)

But I digress...

The pinecones is an interesting photo, but it looks dark. It is not 
necessarily the brightness. It's just that the complex details are not 
popping out.

I don't know what should be done, - but I'd try to play with the
fill-in light (boosting up shadow areas), "vibrance", and "presence" 
sliders in LR.


Cheers,

Igor



Larry Colen Mon, 05 Feb 2018 17:59:20 -0800 wrote:

I've been having a lot of life happening to me recently, I'm finally 
caught up processing photos from January, so here's my monthly "best of" 
set:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157692036993885

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Re: Scientific (in?)accuracy of another photo by Peter Lik

[Mark Roberts]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:

>It might not be a "fake", but rather a "Photoshop composite".
>Or, even an "Augmented Reality".

I'd use the term "composite" only if he weren't trying to sell it as
an image from a single capture. As he's trying to con people I
consider it a fake.

I just messaged Miserere on Facebook. He hasn't looked at the links I
sent him yet but is familiar with Lik already and considers him a con
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Re: video: how fake is this photo?

[Igor PDML-StR]

HAR!

These episodes were aired many moons ago.



 Bob W-PDML Wed, 07 Feb 2018 11:56:21 -0800 wrote:

On 7 Feb 2018, at 18:50, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Thanks for that link.
I had actually thought that the moon in both shots was exactly the same,


https://youtu.be/sGgmmX-dzgU

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Re: video: how fake is this photo?

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On 7 Feb 2018, at 18:50, Igor PDML-StR 
> wrote:



Thanks for that link.
I had actually thought that the moon in both shots was exactly the same,


https://youtu.be/sGgmmX-dzgU
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Re: Scientific (in?)accuracy of another photo by Peter Lik

[Igor PDML-StR]

It might not be a "fake", but rather a "Photoshop composite".
Or, even an "Augmented Reality".
Such as, e.g. in Pokemon Go: 
http://blog.designs.codes/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Pokemon-Go-645x347.jpg


Can you say that Pikachu is not there if you don't have the right tool to 
see it? ;-)


Oh, I think I just figured it out!
Peter Lik has an AR photo camera... ;-)

Igor


 Mark Roberts Wed, 07 Feb 2018 10:42:12 -0800 wrote:


At least that one is just a misleading title, rather than an outright
Photoshop fake like the others.



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Re: PESO: Moon Abstract

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My "abstract" obviously is not a fake.  Who would fake that?  


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
>
> Oops.. Sorry, by mistake, I posted it as a reply to a wrong thread.
>
> Igor
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Finally, I've watched (most of) the video, and these "experts" are also
>> full of ... smoke.
>>
>> One of the guys mentioned the issue noted by Mark (albeit not as clearly
>> formulated as Mark's), - the clouds behind the moon. But it was
>> practically dismissed by others.
>>
>> They were mumbling about the sunset, saying it would be possible to get
>> this light and this color, and one guy bragged about making his living
>> from the twilight photographs. - But until almost the end, nobody thought
>> that it would be non-physical to have red sunset colors (backlit) next to
>> the moon, that is opposite to the sun during the full (or almost full) moon.
>> (Just in case it is not obvious: the moon is full when the sun, which is
>> the source of the light is on the opposite site, i.e. behind you, as you
>> are looking at the moon. And I haven't seen a sunset when the eastern
>> portion of the sky is red like this.)
>>
>> What's funny is that I googled images for moon and sunset, - to see how
>> my physics-based argument holds against photos. To my surprise, I've found
>> some images where the moon is superimposed over the sunset (or sunrise)
>> sky. And those are clearly fake.
>> Here is just one example (referenced as a photo by Castillo, -
>> the link to the original photo is dead):
>> http://planetearthandhumanity.blogspot.com/2013/07/our-moon-
>> at-sunset.html
>>
>> That's clearly a fake!
>>
>> While, it is beyond any doubt to me that the original photo in question
>> could not be done in a single shot, - I was curious if the angular sizes
>> (the size of the rock or tree vs. the size of the moon) are compatible to
>> be in the same shot in general. I have a feeling, - they are not.
>> (You'd have to be too far away from the rock and the tree to see them at
>> this small angular size, - to be able to photograph them with this much of
>> detail.)
>> But I am too lazy to do a careful geometrical consideration at the moment.
>>
>> But I have a big physics(astronomy)-based concern about yet another Peter
>> Lik's photo... -I 'll send a separate message about that.
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Nothing to write home about. .. err. to PDML. ;)
>>>
>>> Here are some examples of what came out:
>>> http://42graphy.org/misc/2018-01-31-eclipse/
>>>
>>>
>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:13:47 -0800 wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you get anything interesting?
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: video: how fake is this photo?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Finally, I've watched (most of) the video, and these "experts" are also 
full of ... smoke.


One of the guys mentioned the issue noted by Mark (albeit not as clearly 
formulated as Mark's), - the clouds behind the moon. But it was 
practically dismissed by others.


They were mumbling about the sunset, saying it would be possible to get 
this light and this color, and one guy bragged about making his living 
from the twilight photographs. - But until almost the end, nobody thought 
that it would be non-physical to have red sunset colors (backlit) next to 
the moon, that is opposite to the sun during the full (or almost full) 
moon. (Just in case it is not obvious: the moon is full when the sun, 
which is the source of the light is on the opposite site, i.e. behind you, 
as you are looking at the moon. And I haven't seen a sunset when the 
eastern portion of the sky is red like this.)


What's funny is that I googled images for moon and sunset, - to see how my
physics-based argument holds against photos. To my surprise, I've found 
some images where the moon is superimposed over the sunset (or sunrise) sky. 
And those are clearly fake.

Here is just one example (referenced as a photo by Castillo, -
the link to the original photo is dead):
http://planetearthandhumanity.blogspot.com/2013/07/our-moon-at-sunset.html

That's clearly a fake!

While, it is beyond any doubt to me that the original photo in question
could not be done in a single shot, - I was curious if the angular sizes
(the size of the rock or tree vs. the size of the moon) are compatible to 
be in the same shot in general. I have a feeling, - they are not.

(You'd have to be too far away from the rock and the tree to see them at
this small angular size, - to be able to photograph them with this much of
detail.)
But I am too lazy to do a careful geometrical consideration at the moment.

But I have a big physics(astronomy)-based concern about yet another Peter
Lik's photo... -I 'll send a separate message about that.

Igor




On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




It must be Pink Floyd releasing smoke from the dark side of the Moon.


Larry Colen Mon, 05 Feb 2018 17:47:22 -0800 wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


I've got to love anything that starts with "Is Peter Lik full of shit?".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2yaO__wmA4


I couldn't stick through the whole video, but... The photo in question
includes clouds that are BEHIND the moon. WTF??? How can anyone even think
for a moment that it's not fake?




Igor

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Re: PESO: Moon Abstract

[Igor PDML-StR]

Oops.. Sorry, by mistake, I posted it as a reply to a wrong thread.

Igor


On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Finally, I've watched (most of) the video, and these "experts" are also full 
of ... smoke.


One of the guys mentioned the issue noted by Mark (albeit not as clearly
formulated as Mark's), - the clouds behind the moon. But it was practically 
dismissed by others.


They were mumbling about the sunset, saying it would be possible to get
this light and this color, and one guy bragged about making his living from 
the twilight photographs. - But until almost the end, nobody thought that it 
would be non-physical to have red sunset colors (backlit) next to the moon, 
that is opposite to the sun during the full (or almost full) moon.

(Just in case it is not obvious: the moon is full when the sun, which is
the source of the light is on the opposite site, i.e. behind you, as you are 
looking at the moon. And I haven't seen a sunset when the eastern portion of 
the sky is red like this.)


What's funny is that I googled images for moon and sunset, - to see how my 
physics-based argument holds against photos. To my surprise, I've found some 
images where the moon is superimposed over the sunset (or sunrise) sky. And 
those are clearly fake.

Here is just one example (referenced as a photo by Castillo, -
the link to the original photo is dead):
http://planetearthandhumanity.blogspot.com/2013/07/our-moon-at-sunset.html

That's clearly a fake!

While, it is beyond any doubt to me that the original photo in question could 
not be done in a single shot, - I was curious if the angular sizes (the size 
of the rock or tree vs. the size of the moon) are compatible to be in the 
same shot in general. I have a feeling, - they are not.
(You'd have to be too far away from the rock and the tree to see them at this 
small angular size, - to be able to photograph them with this much of 
detail.)

But I am too lazy to do a careful geometrical consideration at the moment.

But I have a big physics(astronomy)-based concern about yet another Peter 
Lik's photo... -I 'll send a separate message about that.


Igor





On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Nothing to write home about. .. err. to PDML. ;)

Here are some examples of what came out:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2018-01-31-eclipse/


Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:13:47 -0800 wrote:

Did you get anything interesting?





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Re: Scientific (in?)accuracy of another photo by Peter Lik

[Larry Colen]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:


... or rather the photo title.

While looking at the moon photos of Peter Lik, I've found one
more photo that I suspect to be fake. Well, not the photo itself, but what
it claims to be.
http://www.lik.com/thework/clouds-skies-stars/lunareclipse.html

This one is titled "Lunar eclipse". My claim is that it is not an eclipse.
Rather, it is just one of the lunar phases.


Solar eclipses only happen with a new moon, lunar eclipses only happen 
with a full moon.






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Re: video: how fake is this photo?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thanks for that link.
I had actually thought that the moon in both shots was exactly the same, 
but didn't bother to do a detailed analysis to proof that.


Igor

 Gonz Wed, 07 Feb 2018 09:15:06 -0800 wrote:

Fstoppers wrote up a nice article about the physics of taking that
picture (not) or why its a composite...


https://fstoppers.com/critiques/tale-two-moons-peter-liks-photographs-called-out-science-218194


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Re: Scientific (in?)accuracy of another photo by Peter Lik

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's a very good observation!
Thanks, Matthew!
I felt that something else was wrong about the light: the very right side 
was much brighter then the center: as in case of an object lit from the 
right. But I didn't look at the shadows.


Igor


 Matthew Hunt Wed, 07 Feb 2018 10:37:52 -0800 wrote:

Definitely not a lunar eclipse. Besides the reason you give, lunar eclipses
take place at the full moon, resulting in direct, flat light on the moon.
But the craters in this picture have shadows to one side, consistent with
the apparent phase.


On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



... or rather the photo title.

While looking at the moon photos of Peter Lik, I've found one
more photo that I suspect to be fake. Well, not the photo itself, but what
it claims to be.
http://www.lik.com/thework/clouds-skies-stars/lunareclipse.html

This one is titled "Lunar eclipse". My claim is that it is not an eclipse.
Rather, it is just one of the lunar phases.
An eclipse is a shadow of the Earth. So, the dark-light boundary has a
circular shape, not a straight one as here.
The straight line is consistent with the light source (sun) being
on the right, at about 90 degrees.


See lunar eclipse photos here:
https://www.space.com/25488-total-lunar-eclipse-photos-april-2014.html
(you'd need to "click-scroll" to the right to #4, 5, 7)
or here:
https://www.space.com/11963-unusual-long-total-lunar-eclipse-full-moon.html


I wonder what PDML astro-enthusiaststs think about that?

Igor





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Re: Scientific (in?)accuracy of another photo by Peter Lik

[Mark Roberts]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:

>... or rather the photo title.
>
>While looking at the moon photos of Peter Lik, I've found one
>more photo that I suspect to be fake. Well, not the photo itself, but what
>it claims to be.
>http://www.lik.com/thework/clouds-skies-stars/lunareclipse.html
>
>This one is titled "Lunar eclipse". My claim is that it is not an eclipse.
>Rather, it is just one of the lunar phases.
>An eclipse is a shadow of the Earth. So, the dark-light boundary has a
>circular shape, not a straight one as here.
>The straight line is consistent with the light source (sun) being
>on the right, at about 90 degrees.

Also, the shadows in the craters clearly indicate the sun is to the
far right.

At least that one is just a misleading title, rather than an outright
Photoshop fake like the others.

I wish Miserere, a genuine astronomer (he worked at the Minor Planet
Center at Harvard) were still on the PDML. He'd have a laugh over
these fakes.
 
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Re: Scientific (in?)accuracy of another photo by Peter Lik

[Matthew Hunt]

Definitely not a lunar eclipse. Besides the reason you give, lunar eclipses
take place at the full moon, resulting in direct, flat light on the moon.
But the craters in this picture have shadows to one side, consistent with
the apparent phase.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> ... or rather the photo title.
>
> While looking at the moon photos of Peter Lik, I've found one
> more photo that I suspect to be fake. Well, not the photo itself, but what
> it claims to be.
> http://www.lik.com/thework/clouds-skies-stars/lunareclipse.html
>
> This one is titled "Lunar eclipse". My claim is that it is not an eclipse.
> Rather, it is just one of the lunar phases.
> An eclipse is a shadow of the Earth. So, the dark-light boundary has a
> circular shape, not a straight one as here.
> The straight line is consistent with the light source (sun) being
> on the right, at about 90 degrees.
>
>
> See lunar eclipse photos here:
> https://www.space.com/25488-total-lunar-eclipse-photos-april-2014.html
> (you'd need to "click-scroll" to the right to #4, 5, 7)
> or here:
> https://www.space.com/11963-unusual-long-total-lunar-eclipse
> -full-moon.html
>
>
> I wonder what PDML astro-enthusiaststs think about that?
>
> Igor
>
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Scientific (in?)accuracy of another photo by Peter Lik

[Igor PDML-StR]

... or rather the photo title.

While looking at the moon photos of Peter Lik, I've found one
more photo that I suspect to be fake. Well, not the photo itself, but what
it claims to be.
http://www.lik.com/thework/clouds-skies-stars/lunareclipse.html

This one is titled "Lunar eclipse". My claim is that it is not an eclipse.
Rather, it is just one of the lunar phases.
An eclipse is a shadow of the Earth. So, the dark-light boundary has a
circular shape, not a straight one as here.
The straight line is consistent with the light source (sun) being
on the right, at about 90 degrees.


See lunar eclipse photos here:
https://www.space.com/25488-total-lunar-eclipse-photos-april-2014.html
(you'd need to "click-scroll" to the right to #4, 5, 7)
or here:
https://www.space.com/11963-unusual-long-total-lunar-eclipse-full-moon.html


I wonder what PDML astro-enthusiaststs think about that?

Igor



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Re: PESO: Moon Abstract

[Igor PDML-StR]

Finally, I've watched (most of) the video, and these "experts" are also 
full of ... smoke.


One of the guys mentioned the issue noted by Mark (albeit not as clearly
formulated as Mark's), - the clouds behind the moon. But it was 
practically dismissed by others.


They were mumbling about the sunset, saying it would be possible to get
this light and this color, and one guy bragged about making his 
living from the twilight photographs. - But until almost the end, nobody 
thought that it would be non-physical to have red sunset colors (backlit) 
next to the moon, that is opposite to the sun during the full (or almost 
full) moon.

(Just in case it is not obvious: the moon is full when the sun, which is
the source of the light is on the opposite site, i.e. behind you, as you 
are looking at the moon. And I haven't seen a sunset when the eastern 
portion of the sky is red like this.)


What's funny is that I googled images for moon and sunset, - to see how 
my physics-based argument holds against photos. To my surprise, I've found 
some images where the moon is superimposed over the sunset (or sunrise) 
sky. And those are clearly fake.

Here is just one example (referenced as a photo by Castillo, -
the link to the original photo is dead):
http://planetearthandhumanity.blogspot.com/2013/07/our-moon-at-sunset.html

That's clearly a fake!

While, it is beyond any doubt to me that the original photo in question 
could not be done in a single shot, - I was curious if the angular sizes 
(the size of the rock or tree vs. the size of the moon) are compatible to 
be in the same shot in general. I have a feeling, - they are not.
(You'd have to be too far away from the rock and the tree to see them at 
this small angular size, - to be able to photograph them with this 
much of detail.)

But I am too lazy to do a careful geometrical consideration at the moment.

But I have a big physics(astronomy)-based concern about yet another Peter 
Lik's photo... -I 'll send a separate message about that.


Igor





On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Nothing to write home about. .. err. to PDML. ;)

Here are some examples of what came out:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2018-01-31-eclipse/


Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:13:47 -0800 wrote:

Did you get anything interesting?



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Re: February PUG is up

[Jack Davis]

Believe I prefer Bill Robb's "Float Fly"  with streaming pontoon Moisture.
Totally nice group however!

J

> On February 6, 2018 at 2:37 PM Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> G'day all,
> 
> The largest gallery for some time with some interesting interpretations.  Well
> done all!
> 
> View here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'Arches'.
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: video: how fake is this photo?

[Mark Roberts]

Gonz wrote:

>Fstoppers wrote up a nice article about the physics of taking that
>picture (not) or why its a composite...
>
>https://fstoppers.com/critiques/tale-two-moons-peter-liks-photographs-called-out-science-218194

I showed that to my students (in both the Photoshop class and Digital
Photography I) yesterday. I'm pleased to say they were all appalled by
the fakery.

 
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Re: video: how fake is this photo?

[Gonz]

Fstoppers wrote up a nice article about the physics of taking that
picture (not) or why its a composite...

https://fstoppers.com/critiques/tale-two-moons-peter-liks-photographs-called-out-science-218194


On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I've got to love anything that starts with "Is Peter Lik full of shit?".
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2yaO__wmA4
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Re: PESO, GESO New Zealand pics

[Gonz]

Thanks Bob.  I did manage to have some relax time in there and not
reach for the camera for everything like some of the tourists there.
There were a huge number of tourists in Sydney for the NYE party
there, a good many of them posing for "instagram" moments... sigh,
such is the nature of scenic sites now...


On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 5:09 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Gonz,
> Excellent photos of a beautiful place.
> Hope your trip went well beyond photography.
> It is a place for visual gluttony!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 7:31 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>
>> Still processing many of the pics from the trip down in the
>> upside-down.  New Zealand is quite beautiful with its many snow capped
>> mountains, out-of-this-world blue lakes, and many fjords.  The south
>> island is extraordinary and was the sight of much of the filming for
>> Lord of the Rings as many already know.  My wife complained that she
>> was exhausted from so many beautiful sights at every turn, she called
>> it visual gluttony. The wineries are fantastic with some delicious
>> Pinots and Chardonnay.
>>
>> Out of the bunch so far, my favorite is this one, I call it "The Ghost
>> in the Water":
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/25195116587/in/
>> album-72157662605131087/lightbox/
>>
>> Here is the current album:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/albums/72157662605131087
>>
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Re: PESO, GESO New Zealand pics

[Gonz]

Those are great David!


On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:16 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> Here you go... a couple of quick & dirty renderings from 6x7 scans, 
> uncropped.  I must have been late for the actual sunset but I suspect the 
> light would have been difficult as everything would be in shadow.  You'd need 
> to be there at the right time of year.
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1055/#peso
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1056/#peso
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>> On Feb 6, 2018, at 7:45 PM, David Mann  wrote:
>>
>> I have some sunset photos from there but they're not immediately handy.  I 
>> wasn't up early enough the following morning to get the sunrise but the 
>> local kea population certainly was.  Quite an effective alarm clock.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks David.  I can tell its quite wet there, that with all the
>>> waterfalls everywhere you look and the lush vegetation.  I would love
>>> to be in Milford Sound during the golden hour at sunset or perhaps
>>> better at sunrise.  The pics I got were ok, but the light was quite
>>> harsh.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 9:52 PM, David Mann  wrote:
 Lovely.  I'm jealous about that flight, what incredible views.  Nice to 
 see you had clear weather at Milford Sound because it's one of the wettest 
 places in the world.  It's also spectacular in the rain so you wouldn't 
 have been disappointed either way.

 Cheers,
 Dave

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Gonz  wrote:
>
> Still processing many of the pics from the trip down in the
> upside-down.  New Zealand is quite beautiful with its many snow capped
> mountains, out-of-this-world blue lakes, and many fjords.  The south
> island is extraordinary and was the sight of much of the filming for
> Lord of the Rings as many already know.  My wife complained that she
> was exhausted from so many beautiful sights at every turn, she called
> it visual gluttony. The wineries are fantastic with some delicious
> Pinots and Chardonnay.
>
> Out of the bunch so far, my favorite is this one, I call it "The Ghost
> in the Water":
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/25195116587/in/album-72157662605131087/lightbox/
>
> Here is the current album:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/albums/72157662605131087
>
>
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OT: it instance question

[collinb]

Hey, javascript HTML & VBA junkies...


I want to open a blank browser instance & insert my own content. Have
forgotten how to do it.
Something along the lines of IE.Document.HTML = "htmlcontent" (which fails)
Refresh my memory. Tx.

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