Re: GESO a bunch of critters

2018-07-14 Thread Alan C 
Nice set. I enjoyed those. Are the small eagles on the nest Ospreys? 
Time for you to go after big stuff like Moose, Wolves, Bears, Mountain 
Lions, etc.


Alan C


On 15-Jul-18 12:41 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

PESO: PDML discussion

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/43363009902/in/album-72157669137217797/ 




I'm finally back from my trip North. What was supposed to be a 
relatively short trip for a tango event and then visiting became a lot 
more complicated as things came up and we had to come up with new 
living arrangements for my mom.


I'm starting in on my huge backlog of photos. Today, I tackled my 
wildlife photos.


Here is my fauna album:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669137217797

Comments and suggestion are always appreciated.

Here are a bunch more photos of critters that I liked but not quite as 
much as the ones above:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693255549880

Some of them are technically challenged, but still fun, like the ones 
of what I think are kingbirds dive bombing a bald eagle.  I ran into 
some issues at SNWR with the flange mount of my bigma coming a bit loose.



Here are some flower pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693251449550

I learned a few things that might come in handy on future trips:

A lot of birds (mostly cormorants) nest under the Yaquina Bay Bridge 
in Newport. I had hoped to go back when the light wasn't quite so 
harsh, but that was one of many things I wasn't able to get to on this 
trip.


A Dodge van is very suboptinal for the car tour of the Sacramento 
National Wildlife Refuge. It turns out that you aren't allowed out of 
your car except in a few spots there, even in the summer when there 
aren't many skittish birds around.  I'd like to go back in a 
convertible so that I'm not trying to take photos while hanging out of 
the driver's window.







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Re: GESO a bunch of critters

2018-07-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I love the way you caught the shadows of the beaks in the first image,
Larry!

All three of the galleries are interesting and entertaining, with many fire
images in each.


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On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> PESO: PDML discussion
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/43363009902/in/album-
> 72157669137217797/
>
>
> I'm finally back from my trip North. What was supposed to be a relatively
> short trip for a tango event and then visiting became a lot more
> complicated as things came up and we had to come up with new living
> arrangements for my mom.
>
> I'm starting in on my huge backlog of photos. Today, I tackled my wildlife
> photos.
>
> Here is my fauna album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669137217797
>
> Comments and suggestion are always appreciated.
>
> Here are a bunch more photos of critters that I liked but not quite as
> much as the ones above:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693255549880
>
> Some of them are technically challenged, but still fun, like the ones of
> what I think are kingbirds dive bombing a bald eagle.  I ran into some
> issues at SNWR with the flange mount of my bigma coming a bit loose.
>
>
> Here are some flower pictures:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693251449550
>
> I learned a few things that might come in handy on future trips:
>
> A lot of birds (mostly cormorants) nest under the Yaquina Bay Bridge in
> Newport. I had hoped to go back when the light wasn't quite so harsh, but
> that was one of many things I wasn't able to get to on this trip.
>
> A Dodge van is very suboptinal for the car tour of the Sacramento National
> Wildlife Refuge. It turns out that you aren't allowed out of your car
> except in a few spots there, even in the summer when there aren't many
> skittish birds around.  I'd like to go back in a convertible so that I'm
> not trying to take photos while hanging out of the driver's window.
>
>
>
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Re: GESO a bunch of critters

2018-07-14 Thread ann sanfedele 




On 7/14/2018 6:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

PESO: PDML discussion

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/43363009902/in/album-72157669137217797/ 


har!  - I love that!


I'm finally back from my trip North. What was supposed to be a 
relatively short trip for a tango event and then visiting became a lot 
more complicated as things came up and we had to come up with new 
living arrangements for my mom.


I'm starting in on my huge backlog of photos. Today, I tackled my 
wildlife photos.


Here is my fauna album:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669137217797

Comments and suggestion are always appreciated.

Here are a bunch more photos of critters that I liked but not quite as 
much as the ones above:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693255549880

Some of them are technically challenged, but still fun, like the ones 
of what I think are kingbirds dive bombing a bald eagle.  I ran into 
some issues at SNWR with the flange mount of my bigma coming a bit loose.



Here are some flower pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693251449550

I learned a few things that might come in handy on future trips:

A lot of birds (mostly cormorants) nest under the Yaquina Bay Bridge 
in Newport. I had hoped to go back when the light wasn't quite so 
harsh, but that was one of many things I wasn't able to get to on this 
trip.


A Dodge van is very suboptinal for the car tour of the Sacramento 
National Wildlife Refuge. It turns out that you aren't allowed out of 
your car except in a few spots there, even in the summer when there 
aren't many skittish birds around.  I'd like to go back in a 
convertible so that I'm not trying to take photos while hanging out of 
the driver's window.






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Re: GESO 2018 - Two Sets of Five - GDG

2018-07-14 Thread ann sanfedele 
The first and the last in each of these sets are my favorites... The 
play of light in the Pub shot., the strakness of the Palo Alto station 
and the alst one in the color setwhere so much is happening...  Good stuff!

Isn't it great to photo walk in SF?

ann


On 7/14/2018 1:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

In SF to visit the Leica Store, I had a very short walk on Tuesday and made a few 
photos. Two sets of five, B and Color renderings.

San Francisco Visit - B: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmogkwTo
San Francisco Visit - Color: https://flic.kr/s/aHskBn8Z4R

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GESO a bunch of critters

2018-07-14 Thread Larry Colen 

PESO: PDML discussion

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/43363009902/in/album-72157669137217797/


I'm finally back from my trip North. What was supposed to be a 
relatively short trip for a tango event and then visiting became a lot 
more complicated as things came up and we had to come up with new living 
arrangements for my mom.


I'm starting in on my huge backlog of photos. Today, I tackled my 
wildlife photos.


Here is my fauna album:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669137217797

Comments and suggestion are always appreciated.

Here are a bunch more photos of critters that I liked but not quite as 
much as the ones above:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693255549880

Some of them are technically challenged, but still fun, like the ones of 
what I think are kingbirds dive bombing a bald eagle.  I ran into some 
issues at SNWR with the flange mount of my bigma coming a bit loose.



Here are some flower pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157693251449550

I learned a few things that might come in handy on future trips:

A lot of birds (mostly cormorants) nest under the Yaquina Bay Bridge in 
Newport. I had hoped to go back when the light wasn't quite so harsh, 
but that was one of many things I wasn't able to get to on this trip.


A Dodge van is very suboptinal for the car tour of the Sacramento 
National Wildlife Refuge. It turns out that you aren't allowed out of 
your car except in a few spots there, even in the summer when there 
aren't many skittish birds around.  I'd like to go back in a convertible 
so that I'm not trying to take photos while hanging out of the driver's 
window.




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Re: Upgrade from K5 to KP???

2018-07-14 Thread Toine 
My KP arrived. I'm impressed by the image quality and the many many
options.
I think I'll permanently mount my DA35 macro to the KP and no more crawling
in the mud for macro's with this combo.

Toine

On 7 July 2018 at 01:20, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> Oh yeah. SR works in movie mode on the K-5 too. That alone makes up
> for the lack of manual mode IMO. For the most part you can get away
> with autoexposure and exposure locking when appropriate. The files are
> huge and it only records for 5 minutes, but 80mbs is much better than
> the 18 or so the K-3 is putting out..
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 7:17 PM Zos Xavius  wrote:
> >
> > My K-5 IIs is still getting regular constant use and to be honest I
> > prefer its IQ over the K-3 somewhat except in the best light. At night
> > that camera is a handheld beast though I will concede that the SR is a
> > little better on the K-3. Still I can get down to 1/6th or more pretty
> > easily depending on focal length. I've pretty much settled on just
> > buying another one when it finally dies. It is a very good camera even
> > now.
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM John Francis  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 03:33:27PM -0400, Rick Womer wrote:
> > > > I'm hoping to keep using my K-5 until the successor to the K-3ii is
> > > > out and de-bugged.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > >
> > > That's about where I am, too.
> > >
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Re: OT Computer security

2018-07-14 Thread John Sessoms 
That is kind of odd, because I'm also a non-subscriber and usually locked out by 
the paywall. I usually can read the first couple of sentences above an ad that 
says if I want to read the rest of the article I have to subscribe.


But for some reason this one appeared to be outside the paywall.

The gist:


: The Russians used a variety of methods to acquire bitcoin, including mining,
: trading on peer-to-peer exchanges, and using prepaid cards.


and


: Russian intelligence officers moved those funds around through multiple
: wallets and exchanges, making them harder to track. A single user can have
: hundreds of different bitcoin “wallets,” without identities or with fake
: identities in an effort to hide their tracks. Some users trying to operate
: anonymously also use what are called virtual private networks, or VPNs, 
: services that block the move of data from public sight.
:  
: Despite efforts to remain anonymous, prosecutors said the Russians connected

: their bitcoin transactions with their hacking efforts. “On occasion, the
: conspirators facilitated bitcoin payments using the same computers that they
: used to conduct their hacking activity,” the indictment said.



I wondered if "blackmail" SPAM might be one of the "variety of methods" they 
used to to acquire bitcoin?



On 7/14/2018 11:30, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Looks interesting but I can't read it unless I subscribe. :-(

-p


On 7/14/2018 9:59 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
I already dumped Larry's original post from my Yahoo account (and for some 
reason it never showed up to Earthlink) when I noticed this and made a mental 
connection with the "blackmailer" demanding bitcoins:


https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-bitcoin-fueled-alleged-russian-hacks-1531517907

There may be more to the "blackmail" SPAM than meets the eye.







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Re: Here's the future...

2018-07-14 Thread P. J. Alling 

To be a Pundit one must be prescient...


On 7/14/2018 10:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
I don't see how that can be true. Pundits were invented long before 
the DSLR was. 8^)


On 7/12/2018 10:12, P. J. Alling wrote:
Pundits have been touting the death of the DSLR since they were 
invented.  Eventually the point of ever higher resolutions is lost,  
I sold bunch of images made with the K20D and one became an add that 
covered the size of a bus. 14 to 18 megapixel cameras have reached 
sufficiency for most professional and amateur work, which probably 
accounts more for the drop off in DSLR sales than anything else.


As to the nail in the coffin of DSLR makers, there are currently only 
three and a half DSLR makers.  Nikon, Canon, Pentax and Sony.  You 
can count Pentax or Sony as the half, Pentax because it has such a 
small market share, or Sony because it's DSLR is a hybrid which uses 
it's mirror simply for AF while it's actual viewfinder is an EVF.   I 
expect Sony will exit that market long before any of the other three, 
and it won't be higher resolution from software that causes it.



On 7/10/2018 12:17 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

While the race has been on to produce higher and higher resolution
sensors for digital cameras, while reducing the noise, the future is
post-processing images to enhance grain/noise and sharpness. It
appears that this is possible now, but at a very high cost. (It is
still more economical to buy a more capable camera than to buy the
hardware that can DO this. But I'm sure that will change in time.

https://news.developer.nvidia.com/ai-can-now-fix-your-grainy-photos-by-only-looking-at-grainy-photos/?ncid=--45511 



- Watch the video on that page or the same video here on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/pp7HdI0-MIo

When costs come down, this will be one of the final nails in the
coffin of many DSLR camera makers.

It also will mean that great images are not going to require larger
sensors. Cameras like the newly announced Nikon superzoom P1000 will
be all a "serious" photographer needs. And currently "unusable" high
ISOs will suddenly become viable with AI post-processing.

Darren Addy
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Re: July PUG is up!

2018-07-14 Thread Ken Waller 
A little late to the party here - just returned to home base and wanted to 
thank Jack, cotty and ann for the nice comments on my 'Water Tanks Lake' 
sunrise.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: July PUG is up!




On 7/4/2018 5:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

http://pug.komkon.org/
Lovely gallery of pictures - well done all!

Particularly enjoyed Ann's and Ken Waller's images - two big standouts for 
me. Plenty of 'ooohs' and 'hs' on them :-)



Thanks much, Cotty !
-- I quite like Ken's beauty shot too... how can one not? but realy,
not a lemon among them.. Subash's BW sunset particularly lovely
minimalism too.

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Re: OT Computer security

2018-07-14 Thread Paul Sorenson 

Looks interesting but I can't read it unless I subscribe. :-(

-p


On 7/14/2018 9:59 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
I already dumped Larry's original post from my Yahoo account (and for 
some reason it never showed up to Earthlink) when I noticed this and 
made a mental connection with the "blackmailer" demanding bitcoins:


https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-bitcoin-fueled-alleged-russian-hacks-1531517907 



There may be more to the "blackmail" SPAM than meets the eye.





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Re: OT Computer security

2018-07-14 Thread John Sessoms 
I already dumped Larry's original post from my Yahoo account (and for some 
reason it never showed up to Earthlink) when I noticed this and made a mental 
connection with the "blackmailer" demanding bitcoins:


https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-bitcoin-fueled-alleged-russian-hacks-1531517907

There may be more to the "blackmail" SPAM than meets the eye.



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Re: Just checking

2018-07-14 Thread John Sessoms 
There's a known conflict between Yahoo and Gmail that affects mailing lists like 
the PDML. It started a few years back when Yahoo changed something. There was a 
fairly long discussion here on PDML at the time.


I think it's mostly Yahoo's fault, but some of the blame spills over onto Gmail.

On 7/14/2018 10:23, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

John:

All your PDML posts go to my Spam folder, with this message:



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On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:11 AM, John Sessoms 
wrote:


I don't think it was me. I hope it wasn't me. Yahoo is the last remaining
email account I can use to post to PDML.

I don't want to have to go through the crap I had to go through with
RoadRunner & get another new email account, especially when the Earthlink
account I got has its own problems with PDML's SPAM filter (about half the
time one or more of Earthlink's server IP addresses is on
SpamEatingMonkey's shit list).

On 7/12/2018 11:31, Doug Brewer wrote:


An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to
excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML
server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain
bounce threshold.

A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the others
after compiling a list from the bounce notices.

I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has
increased toward the red line.

On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:


Not just gone but summarily booted out.

Apparently, it wasn't something I said.

On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:



you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:


to see if I came back from the dead.

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OT: The Impolite Pleasure of People-Watching

2018-07-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/style/new-york-people-watching.html?mabReward=CBMG1=17NXISoWpRyVZBi13dWI0gvQ9bP=8_u=80876318

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Re: Just checking

2018-07-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
John:

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On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:11 AM, John Sessoms 
wrote:

> I don't think it was me. I hope it wasn't me. Yahoo is the last remaining
> email account I can use to post to PDML.
>
> I don't want to have to go through the crap I had to go through with
> RoadRunner & get another new email account, especially when the Earthlink
> account I got has its own problems with PDML's SPAM filter (about half the
> time one or more of Earthlink's server IP addresses is on
> SpamEatingMonkey's shit list).
>
> On 7/12/2018 11:31, Doug Brewer wrote:
>
>> An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to
>> excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML
>> server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain
>> bounce threshold.
>>
>> A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the others
>> after compiling a list from the bounce notices.
>>
>> I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has
>> increased toward the red line.
>>
>> On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Not just gone but summarily booted out.
>>>
>>> Apparently, it wasn't something I said.
>>>
>>> On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:


 you were gone?

 ann

 On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

> to see if I came back from the dead.
>
> Sobekhotep VIII
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Re: Here's the future...

2018-07-14 Thread John Sessoms 
I don't see how that can be true. Pundits were invented long before the DSLR 
was. 8^)


On 7/12/2018 10:12, P. J. Alling wrote:
Pundits have been touting the death of the DSLR since they were invented.  
Eventually the point of ever higher resolutions is lost,  I sold bunch of images 
made with the K20D and one became an add that covered the size of a bus.   14 to 
18 megapixel cameras have reached sufficiency for most professional and amateur 
work, which probably accounts more for the drop off in DSLR sales than anything 
else.


As to the nail in the coffin of DSLR makers, there are currently only three and 
a half DSLR makers.  Nikon, Canon, Pentax and Sony.  You can count Pentax or 
Sony as the half, Pentax because it has such a small market share, or Sony 
because it's DSLR is a hybrid which uses it's mirror simply for AF while it's 
actual viewfinder is an EVF.   I expect Sony will exit that market long before 
any of the other three, and it won't be higher resolution from software that 
causes it.



On 7/10/2018 12:17 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

While the race has been on to produce higher and higher resolution
sensors for digital cameras, while reducing the noise, the future is
post-processing images to enhance grain/noise and sharpness. It
appears that this is possible now, but at a very high cost. (It is
still more economical to buy a more capable camera than to buy the
hardware that can DO this. But I'm sure that will change in time.

https://news.developer.nvidia.com/ai-can-now-fix-your-grainy-photos-by-only-looking-at-grainy-photos/?ncid=--45511 



- Watch the video on that page or the same video here on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/pp7HdI0-MIo

When costs come down, this will be one of the final nails in the
coffin of many DSLR camera makers.

It also will mean that great images are not going to require larger
sensors. Cameras like the newly announced Nikon superzoom P1000 will
be all a "serious" photographer needs. And currently "unusable" high
ISOs will suddenly become viable with AI post-processing.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE




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Re: Just checking

2018-07-14 Thread John Sessoms 
I don't think it was me. I hope it wasn't me. Yahoo is the last remaining email 
account I can use to post to PDML.


I don't want to have to go through the crap I had to go through with RoadRunner 
& get another new email account, especially when the Earthlink account I got has 
its own problems with PDML's SPAM filter (about half the time one or more of 
Earthlink's server IP addresses is on SpamEatingMonkey's shit list).


On 7/12/2018 11:31, Doug Brewer wrote:
An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to excessive 
bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML server, according 
to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain bounce threshold.


A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the others after 
compiling a list from the bounce notices.


I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has increased 
toward the red line.


On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Not just gone but summarily booted out.

Apparently, it wasn't something I said.


On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:


you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: GESO 2018 - Two Sets of Five - GDG

2018-07-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Interesting galleries depicting the feeling of the city.  I like the Red
Gate best;  quite striking.


Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 1:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> In SF to visit the Leica Store, I had a very short walk on Tuesday and
> made a few photos. Two sets of five, B and Color renderings.
>
> San Francisco Visit - B: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmogkwTo
> San Francisco Visit - Color: https://flic.kr/s/aHskBn8Z4R
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> Enjoy!
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