Re: Ball head question

[Paul Stenquist]

I used to use a pan/tilt head much like this for shooting cars. Solid platform 
and it makes me think about framing. But not good when you have to keep up with 
critters.

Paul

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Why not use a manfrotto 3 way pan tilt head. something like
> https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-804RC2-Basic-Release-200PL-14/dp/B000K86664
> They are strong enough to do without balancing.
> 
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 05:12, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty 
>> close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted on 
>> a camera.
>> 
>> When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  I was 
>> thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I could 
>> attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that If I’m 
>> shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be that 
>> well balanced.
>> 
>> Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?
>> 
>> In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a 
>> pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time 
>> and not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting an 
>> Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent 
>> tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously 
>> expensive?
>> 
>> --
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>> l...@red4est.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO: Abstract-17

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That's very cool, Sasha. I like it!

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> https://photos.app.goo.gl/NfYZjiftjpdQmJZH7
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> It was almost dark.
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Re: Ball head question

[Paul Stenquist]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/822264-REG

Paul

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:41 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Which one Paul?
> 
>> On December 28, 2020 1:23:23 PM PST, Paul Stenquist 
>>  wrote:
>> This is the ball head I use. It’s rated for up to 50 pound loads. Very
>> smooth and it locks securely.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
 On Dec 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, John  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think anyone makes a ball head substantial enough for the FA
>> 600.
>>> 
>> follow the directions.
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Re: Ball head question

[lrc]

Which one Paul?

On December 28, 2020 1:23:23 PM PST, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:
>This is the ball head I use. It’s rated for up to 50 pound loads. Very
>smooth and it locks securely.
>
>Paul
>
>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, John  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think anyone makes a ball head substantial enough for the FA
>600.
>> 
>> I did a quick search online looking for the gimbal head I bought when
>I got the FA 600. I bought the one I did because my local Pentax dealer
>had it in stock & helped me set the balance.
>> 
>> B has it for $389.90: (IIRC, I paid about $350)
>> 
>>
>https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/877643-REG/Sirui_BSRPH20_PH_20_Professional_Gimbal_Head.html
>> 
>> But B has gimbal heads starting as low as $59.95:
>> 
>>
>https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1458852-REG/magnus_gh_m1_gimbal_head.html
>> 
>> ... and about a half dozen more for less than $200.
>> 
>> You might also take a look at KEH & Amazon.
>> 
>> A gimbal mount might not set you back the $BIGNUM you're expecting.
>> 
>>> On 12/28/2020 11:38:22, Ken Waller wrote:
>>> Larry, I have longer Arca Swiss plate on my 600 FA, when used on my
>Kirk King
>>> Cobra gimbal head the lens effectively becomes weightless. If the
>plate is
>>> used effectively the angle of the lens should have no effect on the
>balance. The length of the plate needed depends on the lens it is used
>on.
>>> -Original Message-
 From: Larry Colen  Sent: Dec 27, 2020 11:11 PM To:
 Pentax-Discuss Mail List  Subject: Ball head
>question
 I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos
>is pretty
 close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s
>mounted
 on a camera.
 When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the
>case.  I was
 thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I
>could
 attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that
>If I’m
 shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be
>that
 well balanced.
 Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal
>mount?
 In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found
>that a
 pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis
>at a time
 and not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by
>putting
 an Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any
>decent
 tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t
>outrageously
 expensive?
 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
>> 
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Re: Ball head question

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I don't worry too much about the balance. If you have a ball head capable of 
properly supporting a longish lens, it should lock securely no matter what. 

A ball head is not generally the best for a long tele lens. I've used one with 
my mirror 600mm because it's light and short, but it's suboptimal. The one I 
like to use the most is the Arca-Swiss Monoball P0 Hybrid ... this allows me to 
rough in a position and then adjust the position with precision using the two 
goniometers and rotating top mount. But it's an expensive head (about $900). It 
works well for astrophotography of bright subjects (the Moon and Jupiter, for 
example) where I can usually get away with a sunlight exposure... If I were 
doing long exposures with dim subjects, I'd buy an equatorial clock drive 
mount. 

For a 400-600 mm refractor lens like the big Pentax guns, a gimbal mount is the 
right support. And with these, getting the balance point adjusted close to the 
center of mass makes it easier to control them as they are designed for 
movement and panning ... a long mounting plate helps. (The plate I have for my 
Olympus 50-200mm lens (often used with the matched 1.4x teleconverter so an 
effective 560ish mm lens) is about seven inches long because that lens 
telescopes about 5 inches through the zoom range and I often want to adjust it 
if I'm trying to track a moving subject. I use the Acratech GP1 head in a 
"limited" gimbal mount orientation for that lens. 

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Re: PESO Starry pool

[ann sanfedele]

a couple of them and feather too ... b. Those stars look like giant 
snowflakes.. and the form behind them now looks to me like
a critter of some sort with mouth open going to gobble up a little 
circular thing on the left...


I thought you converted to BW but then I looked at the photo witht the 
reeds in the foreground :-)


anyway, I enjoyed this a lot

ann


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Merry holidays from the Netherlands. It's too late for christmas
greetings but I found a floating icy star in a pool:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-021-img4341

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Re: Ball head question

[Paul Stenquist]

This is the ball head I use. It’s rated for up to 50 pound loads. Very smooth 
and it locks securely.

Paul

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> I don't think anyone makes a ball head substantial enough for the FA 600.
> 
> I did a quick search online looking for the gimbal head I bought when I got 
> the FA 600. I bought the one I did because my local Pentax dealer had it in 
> stock & helped me set the balance.
> 
> B has it for $389.90: (IIRC, I paid about $350)
> 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/877643-REG/Sirui_BSRPH20_PH_20_Professional_Gimbal_Head.html
> 
> But B has gimbal heads starting as low as $59.95:
> 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1458852-REG/magnus_gh_m1_gimbal_head.html
> 
> ... and about a half dozen more for less than $200.
> 
> You might also take a look at KEH & Amazon.
> 
> A gimbal mount might not set you back the $BIGNUM you're expecting.
> 
>> On 12/28/2020 11:38:22, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Larry, I have longer Arca Swiss plate on my 600 FA, when used on my Kirk King
>> Cobra gimbal head the lens effectively becomes weightless. If the plate is
>> used effectively the angle of the lens should have no effect on the balance. 
>> The length of the plate needed depends on the lens it is used on.
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Larry Colen  Sent: Dec 27, 2020 11:11 PM To:
>>> Pentax-Discuss Mail List  Subject: Ball head question
>>> I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty
>>> close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted
>>> on a camera.
>>> When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  I was
>>> thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I could
>>> attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that If I’m
>>> shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be that
>>> well balanced.
>>> Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?
>>> In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a
>>> pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time
>>> and not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting
>>> an Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent
>>> tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously
>>> expensive?
>>> -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
> 
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Re: Ball head question

[Toine]

Why not use a manfrotto 3 way pan tilt head. something like
https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-804RC2-Basic-Release-200PL-14/dp/B000K86664
They are strong enough to do without balancing.

On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 05:12, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty 
> close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted on 
> a camera.
>
> When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  I was 
> thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I could 
> attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that If I’m 
> shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be that well 
> balanced.
>
> Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?
>
> In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a 
> pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time 
> and not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting an 
> Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent 
> tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously 
> expensive?
>
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Re: Ball head question

[Ken Waller]

Larry, I have longer Arca Swiss plate on my 600 FA, when used on my Kirk King 
Cobra gimbal head the lens effectively becomes weightless. If the plate is used 
effectively the angle of the lens should have no effect on the balance.
The length of the plate needed depends on the lens it is used on.

-Original Message-
>From: Larry Colen 
>Sent: Dec 27, 2020 11:11 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Ball head question
>
>I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty 
>close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted on a 
>camera. 
>
>When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  I was 
>thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I could 
>attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that If I’m 
>shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be that well 
>balanced.
>
>Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?
>
>In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a 
>pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time 
>and not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting an 
>Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent 
>tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously 
>expensive?
> 
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PESO Starry pool

[Toine]

Merry holidays from the Netherlands. It's too late for christmas
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Re: Ball head question

[John]

I don't think anyone makes a ball head substantial enough for the FA 600.

I did a quick search online looking for the gimbal head I bought when I got the 
FA 600. I bought the one I did because my local Pentax dealer had it in stock & 
helped me set the balance.


B has it for $389.90: (IIRC, I paid about $350)

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/877643-REG/Sirui_BSRPH20_PH_20_Professional_Gimbal_Head.html

But B has gimbal heads starting as low as $59.95:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1458852-REG/magnus_gh_m1_gimbal_head.html

... and about a half dozen more for less than $200.

You might also take a look at KEH & Amazon.

A gimbal mount might not set you back the $BIGNUM you're expecting.

On 12/28/2020 11:38:22, Ken Waller wrote:

Larry, I have longer Arca Swiss plate on my 600 FA, when used on my Kirk King
Cobra gimbal head the lens effectively becomes weightless. If the plate is
used effectively the angle of the lens should have no effect on the balance. 
The length of the plate needed depends on the lens it is used on.


-Original Message-

From: Larry Colen  Sent: Dec 27, 2020 11:11 PM To:
Pentax-Discuss Mail List  Subject: Ball head question

I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty
close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted
on a camera.

When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  I was
thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I could
attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that If I’m
shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be that
well balanced.

Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?

In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a
pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time
and not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting
an Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent
tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously
expensive?

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Re: Ball head question

[Paul Stenquist]

I find that a stout ball head works fine for shooting birds. My D FA 150-450 
plus DA 1.4X on the K-1 with battery grip balances nicely and the ball head 
allows ample movement. My Arca plate is long enough to allow about an inch of 
adjusts.

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> On Dec 28, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Sasha Sobol  wrote:
> 
> Wibmerly mh-100 is not very expensive (this my main “ball head” now).
> 
> Sasha
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 9:48 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't worry too much about the balance. If you have a ball head capable
>> of properly supporting a longish lens, it should lock securely no matter
>> what.
>> 
>> A ball head is not generally the best for a long tele lens. I've used one
>> with my mirror 600mm because it's light and short, but it's suboptimal. The
>> one I like to use the most is the Arca-Swiss Monoball P0 Hybrid ... this
>> allows me to rough in a position and then adjust the position with
>> precision using the two goniometers and rotating top mount. But it's an
>> expensive head (about $900). It works well for astrophotography of bright
>> subjects (the Moon and Jupiter, for example) where I can usually get away
>> with a sunlight exposure... If I were doing long exposures with dim
>> subjects, I'd buy an equatorial clock drive mount.
>> 
>> For a 400-600 mm refractor lens like the big Pentax guns, a gimbal mount
>> is the right support. And with these, getting the balance point adjusted
>> close to the center of mass makes it easier to control them as they are
>> designed for movement and panning ... a long mounting plate helps. (The
>> plate I have for my Olympus 50-200mm lens (often used with the matched 1.4x
>> teleconverter so an effective 560ish mm lens) is about seven inches long
>> because that lens telescopes about 5 inches through the zoom range and I
>> often want to adjust it if I'm trying to track a moving subject. I use the
>> Acratech GP1 head in a "limited" gimbal mount orientation for that lens.
>> 
>> G
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Re: OT: NatGeo Pictures of the Year

[John]

It took me to a page where I can sign up for a gmail account.

On 12/27/2020 13:04:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just clicked on the link in your message, and it worked for me.

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:42 PM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:


Am 27.12.20 um 18:33 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:

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Are you sure this is the correct link?

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Re: PESO: Abstract-17

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It is indeed quit abstract.

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 1:06 PM Sasha Sobol  wrote:

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/NfYZjiftjpdQmJZH7
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Re: PESO: Abstract-17

[ann sanfedele]

would like to know the back story -- but it is lovely
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On 12/28/2020 1:05 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/NfYZjiftjpdQmJZH7

It was almost dark.

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PESO: Abstract-17

[Sasha Sobol]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/NfYZjiftjpdQmJZH7

It was almost dark.

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Re: Ball head question

[Sasha Sobol]

Wibmerly mh-100 is not very expensive (this my main “ball head” now).

Sasha

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 9:48 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> I don't worry too much about the balance. If you have a ball head capable
> of properly supporting a longish lens, it should lock securely no matter
> what.
>
> A ball head is not generally the best for a long tele lens. I've used one
> with my mirror 600mm because it's light and short, but it's suboptimal. The
> one I like to use the most is the Arca-Swiss Monoball P0 Hybrid ... this
> allows me to rough in a position and then adjust the position with
> precision using the two goniometers and rotating top mount. But it's an
> expensive head (about $900). It works well for astrophotography of bright
> subjects (the Moon and Jupiter, for example) where I can usually get away
> with a sunlight exposure... If I were doing long exposures with dim
> subjects, I'd buy an equatorial clock drive mount.
>
> For a 400-600 mm refractor lens like the big Pentax guns, a gimbal mount
> is the right support. And with these, getting the balance point adjusted
> close to the center of mass makes it easier to control them as they are
> designed for movement and panning ... a long mounting plate helps. (The
> plate I have for my Olympus 50-200mm lens (often used with the matched 1.4x
> teleconverter so an effective 560ish mm lens) is about seven inches long
> because that lens telescopes about 5 inches through the zoom range and I
> often want to adjust it if I'm trying to track a moving subject. I use the
> Acratech GP1 head in a "limited" gimbal mount orientation for that lens.
>
> G
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Re: Ball head question

[Bill]

From: Larry Colen 
Sent: Dec 27, 2020 11:11 PM
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Subject: Ball head question

I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty 
close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted on a 
camera.

When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  


I can only speak to the lenses I own, but I have found this is rarely 
the case.

Note the length of the plate under my A*600/5.6

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50171571922/in/dateposted-public/

The tripod mount is on the back green chassis component, the balance 
point is right at the jamb nut locking the plate to the head.
In order to get something close to workable, I have to put the battery 
grip onto the K1`, and then it's not bad. It was never great with the 
smaller and lioghter APS-C cameras.
My A 400/5.6 is similar, albeit shorter, and my FA* 200/4 macro is also 
similar, but shorter still.

I have a little family of plates of different sizes to balance the lenses.

This is another of the things I don't understand about what Pentax was 
thinking. These are all film era lenses that would have lighter bodies 
mounted to them, yet they require something around the weight of Cotty's 
beer gut to balance them.



I was thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, 
I could attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect 
that If I’m shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no 
longer be that well balanced.


Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?

In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a 
pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time and 
not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting an 
Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent 
tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously 
expensive?


I think that with long lenses, a gimbal head really is the way to go. I 
have a Wimberley, based on recommendation of Ken Waller, and it is just 
fine, though it is pretty pricey.

Feisol makes a nice one that is still expensive, though not goofily so:

https://www.feisol.net/gimbals.html

It's even on sale right now..

bill



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Re: Ball head question

[Dale H. Cook]

On 12/27/2020 11:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



> Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?



This may not be quite what you are looking for, but I had to build it 
for my Rokinon 650Z 650-1300mm f/8-16 telephoto lens partly because it 
moved the balance point so far:




https://plymouthcolony.net/photos/pages/telebar.html
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Re: Ball head question

[Alan C]

Larry, a good gimbal mount is only about 15% of the price of a K1!

Alan C

On 28-Dec-20 06:11 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty 
close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted on a 
camera.

When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  I was 
thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I could 
attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that If I’m 
shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be that well 
balanced.

Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?

In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a 
pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time and 
not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting an 
Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent 
tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously 
expensive?
  
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Re: Ball head question

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 28.12.20 um 05:11 schrieb Larry Colen:


Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?


This might do. I had one, years ago. Might even still have it. No idea
where. The kind of thing I usually find somewhere in a remote corner of
the boot when I clear out the car before trading it in.

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ann sanfedele , 25 Ara 2020 Cum, 21:58 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
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Re: Ball head question

[Bob Pdml]

How about a fluid head?

> On 28 Dec 2020, at 04:12, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I suspect that in theory the tripod mount foot on most telephotos is pretty 
> close to where they think the center of gravity will be when it’s mounted on 
> a camera. 
> 
> When I’m using a ball head I find that this is very rarely the case.  I was 
> thinking that if I had a really long arca swiss plate on my lens, I could 
> attach it much closer to the balance point.  However I suspect that If I’m 
> shooting at anything not very close to level, it would no longer be that well 
> balanced.
> 
> Is there a good solution other than dropping $BIGNUM on a gimbal mount?
> 
> In a related question, When I’m doing astrophotography, I’ve found that a 
> pan/tilt head makes it a lot easier because I can adjust one axis at a time 
> and not risk entirely losing my aim.  I have accomplished this by putting an 
> Arca-swiss ballhead on one of my tiltall tripods.  Are there any decent 
> tilt-pan arca-swiss tripod heads?  Preferably ones that aren’t outrageously 
> expensive?
> 
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> l...@red4est.com
> 
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