Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

[Alan C]

Thanks, Rick

There is a lot of this sort of thing in the big cities, especially 
around Johannesburg, but nice for our sleepy little dorp. Most of the 
planes are sponsored for advertising purposes at air shows. Variations 
of the Extra 300's are the most popular & capable. There are also a lot 
of Pitts Specials some of them about 50 years old now. Many other 
vintage planes too.There is to be a display by the top pilots tomorrow 
(Sat) pm so I'll have another go then.


Alan C

On 21-Aug-21 02:49 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Alan, I like these a lot. It’s nice of them to be flying colo(u)rful planes!

Rick


On Aug 20, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD 
55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5% keepers. High 
aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously needs lots of practice.

The Aerobatic Competition started yesterday at 14:00 & will end on Sat. Only 28 
planes pitched which is rather disappointing but I suppose it's a long flight for them 
to get here. The organisation is very spectator unfriendly. There is no printed 
programme so we don't know anything about the planes or pilots or what is happening, 
when. No access to the airfield, hangars or planes for spectators who have to watch 
from outside or a cleared area about 500m N of the terminal buildings. No entry fee, 
mind you, & some freelancers with food/non-alcoholic refreshments. Portable toilets 
provided.

Heavy cloud today & forecast again for tomorrow with rain - activity for the 
day only beginning late, this afternoon - wonder if they will finish? The Extra 
300S is the most popular with a couple of Pitts specials. No idea what the others 
are except for a single Russian YAK 52.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157719758969510/


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Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

[Alan C]

Thanks Larry

"Cotty is probably having a good laugh and thinking we should try 
getting video"


Believe me, It did cross my mind.

Alan C
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On 20-Aug-21 07:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Cotty is probably having a good laugh and thinking we should try getting video.

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PESO 2021 - 133-140 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I continue to experiment with the Aporia 24mm... But this time I fitted it to 
the Hasselblad 907x using a Leica M to Hasselblad X mount adapter. I figured 
that since it was designed to cover 24x36 format film, it might work okay on 
33x44mm digital sensor if I cropped to square.

The camera looks slightly ludicrous with a lens that's smaller than and 1/3 the 
weight of the lens mount adapter…

https://flic.kr/p/2mhQVWa

… but if it works okay, who cares? :)

Some test photos from my daily walks:

https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vo6 :: Methodist Church Under Repair - Santa Clara 2021
https://flic.kr/p/2migbHw :: Art and Missiles - Santa Clara 2021
https://flic.kr/p/2micqgU :: Direction - Santa Clara 2021
https://flic.kr/p/2migbJ8 :: Shadow on Tiled Path - Santa Clara 2021
https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vpd :: Water Distribution - Santa Clara 2021
https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vpP :: Pickets - Santa Clara 2021
https://flic.kr/p/2midHaU :: Siding, Sun, and Shadows - Santa Clara 2021
https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vqL :: Light Beam on Surface Texture - Santa Clara 2021

The issues using this lens on the camera are several. 

- Electronic shutter only, with a scan time of 300milliseconds. So moving 
subjects are nearly impossible.

- A 24mm lens, even with full viewfinder magnification for focus assist, proves 
hard to judge the best focus point. Normally I'd just set the lens by scale, 
but the focusing scale on the Aporia is way off the mark and needs to be fully 
re-calibrated to get the best out of it. 

- Luckily, a 24mm lens at f/5.6 has so much DoF on this format, you can focus 
pretty approximately and still get usable sharpness. I made a mark for 7 foot 
distance… that covers 3.5' to infinity. 

- The camera naturally wants to ride nose up on a strap as I walk, which 
invites dropping dirt and garbage onto the lens, so I carried it in a bag. 

It's fun stuff, however, and is sure amusing. You can see in the first two 
shots (which are directly out of the camera, resized only) there is a bit of 
color shifting across the capture field but it's fairly subtle. 

Enjoy!
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Re: Finally getting a 77

[mike wilson]

> On 20 August 2021 at 21:26 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 20 Aug 2021, at 19:31, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>> On 20 August 2021 at 18:55 Bill  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I'm keeping my 77 for when I get too frail to carry the 85/1.4. I hope 
> >> the mechanics of it haven't frozen by then, as my intent is to not 
> >> become that frail for half a dozen decades.
> > 
> > No harm in wishing.  I wish you luck and hope I am in lockstep.
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> My motto is “Vive aeternum aut temptans morere”.

Feels like I'm doing that on a daily basis at the moment.
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Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

[Rick Womer]

Alan, I like these a lot. It’s nice of them to be flying colo(u)rful planes!

Rick

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD 
> 55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5% keepers. 
> High aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously needs lots of 
> practice.
> 
> The Aerobatic Competition started yesterday at 14:00 & will end on Sat. Only 
> 28 planes pitched which is rather disappointing but I suppose it's a long 
> flight for them to get here. The organisation is very spectator unfriendly. 
> There is no printed programme so we don't know anything about the planes or 
> pilots or what is happening, when. No access to the airfield, hangars or 
> planes for spectators who have to watch from outside or a cleared area about 
> 500m N of the terminal buildings. No entry fee, mind you, & some freelancers 
> with food/non-alcoholic refreshments. Portable toilets provided.
> 
> Heavy cloud today & forecast again for tomorrow with rain - activity for the 
> day only beginning late, this afternoon - wonder if they will finish? The 
> Extra 300S is the most popular with a couple of Pitts specials. No idea what 
> the others are except for a single Russian YAK 52.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157719758969510/
> 
> 
> Alan C
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Re: PESO 2021 - 133-140 - GDG

[Rick Womer]

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 8:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I continue to experiment with the Aporia 24mm... But this time I fitted it to 
> the Hasselblad 907x using a Leica M to Hasselblad X mount adapter. I figured 
> that since it was designed to cover 24x36 format film, it might work okay on 
> 33x44mm digital sensor if I cropped to square.
> 
> The camera looks slightly ludicrous with a lens that's smaller than and 1/3 
> the weight of the lens mount adapter…

It’s somewhat similar to my K-5 with the 21 or 40 pancake on it.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mhQVWa
> 
> … but if it works okay, who cares? :)

Indeed!

> 
> Some test photos from my daily walks:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vo6 :: Methodist Church Under Repair - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2migbHw :: Art and Missiles - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2micqgU :: Direction - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2migbJ8 :: Shadow on Tiled Path - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vpd :: Water Distribution - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vpP :: Pickets - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2midHaU :: Siding, Sun, and Shadows - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vqL :: Light Beam on Surface Texture - Santa Clara 2021
> 
On the first one, the echo of the shadows of the scaffolding and the curve of 
the building is interesting, but gets lost. Some cropping and higher contrast 
might help.

Methinks the last one could use more contrast, and some taming of the 
highlights on the foliage.

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Re: Finally getting a 77

[mike wilson]

> On 20 August 2021 at 18:55 Bill  wrote:
 
> I'm keeping my 77 for when I get too frail to carry the 85/1.4. I hope 
> the mechanics of it haven't frozen by then, as my intent is to not 
> become that frail for half a dozen decades.

No harm in wishing.  I wish you luck and hope I am in lockstep.
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Re: A switcheroo

[John]

Excellent!

On 8/19/2021 19:37:22, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: ADVICE PLEASE

[John]

I've never been an active plane spotter, but I've been goofy over airplanes for 
as long as I can remember. There was a time when I knew ALL of the military 
airplanes & who flew them. (nation, service branch, ...)


When I was a child (around 1955 or so) the Air Force still put on flying 
demonstrations on Memorial Day.


They would fly formations of aircraft around the state and there must have been 
some kind of press release giving a schedule of when they would be passing over 
certain points because I remember knowing what time & which direction to look 
for them.


Around here it was mostly C-47s & C-119 Flying Boxcars (because Ft Bragg & the 
82nd). I don't think the Air Force started using C-130s until after the DoD 
phased out those aerial power demonstrations.


And what looked like B-29 bombers, which I now think might have been KB-50 
tanker aircraft and KC-97 Stratotankers along with C-97 Stratofreighters (all 
developed from the B-29 air frame).


I also remember formations of propeller driven fighters, probably P-51s, but 
might have included A-1 Skyraiders. I believe the Air Force Reserve still had a 
few P-51s in the mid-50s.


The other thing I remember is B-52 bombers coming in low over US 70 east of 
Goldsboro, NC (landing at Seymour Johnson AFB).


They'd have been about a mile from their touchdown point on the runway and they 
are *HUGE* when you see them up close only a couple hundred feet off the ground.


The impression from seeing them in the air like that is even more dramatic than 
when you see them on the ground when they're on static display at an AFB open house.


And just a bit farther down the road you passed by Cherry Point and there were 
often various USMC or Navy aircraft passing low over the highway on their way to 
the runway (4,000 ft from the threshold on 5R).


The other one that is amazing to see in the air from that vantage point (close 
up under the flight path when they're landing) is the C5 Galaxy, but they 
weren't around when I was a child; first introduced in 1970.



On 8/19/2021 20:49:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

I remember plane-spotting for Vampires and Venoms flying out of the FAA base in 
Hampshire - and Spitfires (Mk19) were
the first I ticked off in my spotter's book.
First actual air show I went to was at Biggin Hill: the sight of Spitfires 
coming up out of the valley in a low pass was
something else!


John in Brisbane



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Holy Moses!

Cot

On 19 Aug 2021, at 19:41, John  wrote:

I remember when they flew the Grumman F-11 Tiger.
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Re: A switcheroo

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 20.08.21 um 01:37 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics.


Very well done.

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Re: Finally getting a 77

[Bob Pdml]

> On 20 Aug 2021, at 19:31, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> On 20 August 2021 at 18:55 Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm keeping my 77 for when I get too frail to carry the 85/1.4. I hope 
>> the mechanics of it haven't frozen by then, as my intent is to not 
>> become that frail for half a dozen decades.
> 
> No harm in wishing.  I wish you luck and hope I am in lockstep.
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Re: A switcheroo

[Ken Waller]

Well done as usual Paul.
The few times Ive attended there was no place to park by the time I got 
there.


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I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited. Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Re: Finally getting a 77

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:21 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> Going on a trip up to Maine in a couple of weeks.  Been lusting over
> the 77 for years, maybe decades.  I've had the 31 for a few years and
> love it.  Figured I could take both as a lightish weight kit on my
> trip.  Apparently they're making a new 77 now, "HD".  Anyone have any
> experience with these newer models?  Any comparisons with the older
> limiteds?

I don’t have any experience with the newer limited but the moment I first 
looked through my 77 it became my favorite lens, and I don’t see any reason new 
coatings should interfere with the magic pixie dust.


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Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 6:45 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD 
> 55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5% keepers. 
> High aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously needs lots of 
> practice.

5% keepers is a very respectable ratio.   

> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157719758969510/

And that’s a very respectable set.

It occurs to me that while we’re sitting here complaining about the difficulty 
of shooting photographs of aerobatic planes, Cotty is probably having a good 
laugh and thinking we should try getting video.


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Re: Finally getting a 77

[Bill]

On 8/20/2021 11:21 AM, Gonz wrote:

Going on a trip up to Maine in a couple of weeks.  Been lusting over
the 77 for years, maybe decades.  I've had the 31 for a few years and
love it.  Figured I could take both as a lightish weight kit on my
trip.  Apparently they're making a new 77 now, "HD".  Anyone have any
experience with these newer models?  Any comparisons with the older
limiteds?





No personal experience, but they've updated the coatings and I believe 
they have rounded the aperture blades somewhat.


I expect it's purple fringing when wide open is about the same as the 
original model, I don't think that is something that can be cured with a 
coatings update.


The 77 is still a much loved lens and gives very good image quality most 
of the time, though it has now been much superseded by the D FA* 85/1.4 
in several categories, image quality, size and price are the ones that 
come to mind.


Expect the new version to be similar in most regards, and perhaps 
somewhat better in a few metrics, those being the ones where rounded 
aperture blades are better than straight ones.


I'm not sure if this is true, but my understanding is that the coating 
update had as much to do with economics as anything else. By updating 
the lens to HD coatings, they are standardizing on a more modern coating 
strategy for all their lenses, not because the HD coatings are night and 
day better than the older SMC process, which is already excellent.


The SMC 77 that I have handles flare better than just about any lens I 
have used. It is quite difficult to ruin a shot with flare with the 77, 
so if the HD coatings are in improvement, it's going to be incremental, 
and making what is very good indeed a tiny bit better.


I expect if you dig around on Pentax Forums a bit, you will probably 
find a few direct comparisons between the two. There are a number of 
people there who spend quite a bit of effort making the type of 
comparisons you will find helpful.


I'm keeping my 77 for when I get too frail to carry the 85/1.4. I hope 
the mechanics of it haven't frozen by then, as my intent is to not 
become that frail for half a dozen decades.


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Re: A switcheroo

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Outstanding work, both the images and the article.

The NY Times can insist on the best and usually gets it.  I hope they pay
the best as well.

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On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 7:37 PM Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the
> pics. This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html
>
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Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

[Alan C]

Thanks Dan. Those are the best of about 200 shots. Apparently there is 
some sort of display by the top pilots to end off tomorrow pm so I hope 
the weather obliges.


Alan C

On 20-Aug-21 07:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Very nice images.

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On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:45 AM Alan C  wrote:


Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD
55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5%
keepers. High aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously
needs lots of practice.

The Aerobatic Competition started yesterday at 14:00 & will end on Sat.
Only 28 planes pitched which is rather disappointing but I suppose it's
a long flight for them to get here. The organisation is very spectator
unfriendly. There is no printed programme so we don't know anything
about the planes or pilots or what is happening, when. No access to the
airfield, hangars or planes for spectators who have to watch from
outside or a cleared area about 500m N of the terminal buildings. No
entry fee, mind you, & some freelancers with food/non-alcoholic
refreshments. Portable toilets provided.

Heavy cloud today & forecast again for tomorrow with rain - activity for
the day only beginning late, this afternoon - wonder if they will
finish? The Extra 300S is the most popular with a couple of Pitts
specials. No idea what the others are except for a single Russian YAK 52.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157719758969510/


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Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

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Very nice images.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:45 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD
> 55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5%
> keepers. High aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously
> needs lots of practice.
>
> The Aerobatic Competition started yesterday at 14:00 & will end on Sat.
> Only 28 planes pitched which is rather disappointing but I suppose it's
> a long flight for them to get here. The organisation is very spectator
> unfriendly. There is no printed programme so we don't know anything
> about the planes or pilots or what is happening, when. No access to the
> airfield, hangars or planes for spectators who have to watch from
> outside or a cleared area about 500m N of the terminal buildings. No
> entry fee, mind you, & some freelancers with food/non-alcoholic
> refreshments. Portable toilets provided.
>
> Heavy cloud today & forecast again for tomorrow with rain - activity for
> the day only beginning late, this afternoon - wonder if they will
> finish? The Extra 300S is the most popular with a couple of Pitts
> specials. No idea what the others are except for a single Russian YAK 52.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157719758969510/
>
>
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Re: A switcheroo

[Alan C]

Great article & photos, Paul. I could only ever dream about cars like 
that. What about your car?


Alan C

On 20-Aug-21 01:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
This was different but very limited.  Just people snd cars. No birds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html

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Finally getting a 77

[Gonz]

Going on a trip up to Maine in a couple of weeks.  Been lusting over
the 77 for years, maybe decades.  I've had the 31 for a few years and
love it.  Figured I could take both as a lightish weight kit on my
trip.  Apparently they're making a new 77 now, "HD".  Anyone have any
experience with these newer models?  Any comparisons with the older
limiteds?



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Re: A switcheroo

[David J Brooks]

Wonderful jon Paul

Dave

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:20 AM Rick Womer  wrote:

> Saw it today in the carbon-based NYTimes. Some of the photos didn’t get
> in, so I’m glad you sent the link!
>
> Rick
>
> > On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> >
> > Well done as usual Paul.
> > The few times Ive attended there was no place to park by the time
> I got there.
> >
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> > -Original Message-
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> > Subject: A switcheroo
> >
> > I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the
> pics. This was different but very limited. Just people snd cars. No birds.
> >
> >
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html
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Re: A switcheroo

[Rick Womer]

Saw it today in the carbon-based NYTimes. Some of the photos didn’t get in, so 
I’m glad you sent the link!

Rick

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Well done as usual Paul.
> The few times Ive attended there was no place to park by the time I 
> got there.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Aug 19, 2021 7:37 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss List 
> Subject: A switcheroo
> 
> I write regularly for three Times but rarely get a chance to shoot the pics. 
> This was different but very limited. Just people snd cars. No birds.
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/business/dream-cruise-car-designers.html
> 
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Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

[Bob Pdml]

Nice stuff.

> On 20 Aug 2021, at 14:45, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD 
> 55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5% keepers. 
> High aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously needs lots of 
> practice.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157719758969510/
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GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

[Alan C]

Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD 
55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5% 
keepers. High aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously 
needs lots of practice.


The Aerobatic Competition started yesterday at 14:00 & will end on Sat. 
Only 28 planes pitched which is rather disappointing but I suppose it's 
a long flight for them to get here. The organisation is very spectator 
unfriendly. There is no printed programme so we don't know anything 
about the planes or pilots or what is happening, when. No access to the 
airfield, hangars or planes for spectators who have to watch from 
outside or a cleared area about 500m N of the terminal buildings. No 
entry fee, mind you, & some freelancers with food/non-alcoholic 
refreshments. Portable toilets provided.


Heavy cloud today & forecast again for tomorrow with rain - activity for 
the day only beginning late, this afternoon - wonder if they will 
finish? The Extra 300S is the most popular with a couple of Pitts 
specials. No idea what the others are except for a single Russian YAK 52.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157719758969510/


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PESO: Smoke Gets In Your Eyes ...

[John Francis]

Last night when I was taking out the garbage I happened to look up ...

http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/SmokeMoon.jpg

Technically it's crap - hand-held 1/13 of a second at 350mm - but it shows what 
I saw.
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