Re: Live view, arrggh

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On December 2, 2021 4:59:32 PM PST, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>Larry --
>must correct one impression you have about my suggestion earlier..
>>
>> On 12/2/21 1:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it 
>>> another try tonight.
>>>
>>> ***Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film 
>>> era camera.***
>I was actually telling you how I did it with my K-5 mounted on a 
>tripod..  although back in the day I did
>do a number of casual self portraits with the LX and, of course, a 
>passport photo.

:-)

I didn't say you used film, bit that is how you would do it, and I have done 
it, using a film camera.


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Re: K-70 repair recommendations?

[Rick Womer]

Peter,

Thanks. I came upon this site too. There are some positive comments on 
DPReview, but I have more confidence in reviews from a group of familiar people.

Rick

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 6:00 PM, P T Stevens  wrote:
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> This is an old listing, they may be still be in business.
> 
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> Peter
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> On 12/2/2021 3:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> As discussed in this space, my wife’s K-70 has the dreaded aperture block 
>> problem.
>> Can anyone suggest a better (i.e. quicker and less expensive) repair outfit 
>> than Precision?
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Re: PESO - Early Morning Abstract

[Rick Womer]

Ann, I’m glad you like the pic!

There is a family of “Pentax forum” websites, but I don’t think they have 
anything to do with Compuserve’s forums of yore.  

About 1983 or ‘84 I got my first computer at work, but there were no network 
connections. A couple of years later it was connected to the network, and our 
national clinical research organization (the Children’s Cancer Study Group, or 
CCSG) required that its members get a Compuserve account for email (still a 
very new thing). 

Poking around on Compuserve, i was pleased to find a Pentax group (I was 
happily shooting with my Super Program). Others will have to fill in the 
transition to a Pentax-sponsored group, and then Doug’s leadership.

Rick

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 7:00 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Glad you do think itis a keeper because it really is!..  I love that shot.
> 
> doesn't the Pentax forum still exist?  I think you must have been talking 
> Pentax online even loger ago than me  (I've been on the list ince around Dec 
> 1998)
> 
> ann
> 
> On 12/2/2021 5:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> I think it was back when the list was the Pentax Forum on CompuServe that we 
>> had a somewhat cantankerous member who lived out west. One day he was 
>> driving from Arizona to California, when he learned that snow had closed the 
>> roads over the mountains. So, he got a room at the nearest motel.
>> 
>> To while away the empty hours, he shot a couple of rolls of film in his 
>> room; just making abstract photos of the furnishings and fixtures. They were 
>> very good.
>> 
>> On our trip to Lancaster County a couple of weeks ago, we were ready for 
>> breakfast a while before the inn started serving it. I thought of our former 
>> member and took a few shots around the room. This is the only one I thought 
>> was a keeper:
>> 
>> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/November-2021/Autumn/i-BFKgRCX/A
>> 
>> Cheers, shrugs, and catcalls all appreciated.
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Re: Live view, arrggh

[ann sanfedele]

Larry --
must correct one impression you have about my suggestion earlier..


On 12/2/21 1:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it 
another try tonight.


***Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film 
era camera.***
I was actually telling you how I did it with my K-5 mounted on a 
tripod..  although back in the day I did
do a number of casual self portraits with the LX and, of course, a 
passport photo.


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Re: OT: Equine photography

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On 12/2/2021 5:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Dec 2, 2021, at 1:52 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

John -
I'd rather look at old film photos of yours than this overly phony artsy-fartsy 
stuff this woman is doing..um that is overdoing.

Ann,

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Yup

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Re: PESO - Early Morning Abstract

[ann sanfedele]

Glad you do think itis a keeper because it really is!..  I love that shot.

doesn't the Pentax forum still exist?  I think you must have been 
talking Pentax online even loger ago than me  (I've been on the list 
ince around Dec 1998)


ann

On 12/2/2021 5:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I think it was back when the list was the Pentax Forum on CompuServe that we 
had a somewhat cantankerous member who lived out west. One day he was driving 
from Arizona to California, when he learned that snow had closed the roads over 
the mountains. So, he got a room at the nearest motel.

To while away the empty hours, he shot a couple of rolls of film in his room; 
just making abstract photos of the furnishings and fixtures. They were very 
good.

On our trip to Lancaster County a couple of weeks ago, we were ready for 
breakfast a while before the inn started serving it. I thought of our former 
member and took a few shots around the room. This is the only one I thought was 
a keeper:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/November-2021/Autumn/i-BFKgRCX/A

Cheers, shrugs, and catcalls all appreciated.

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Re: K-70 repair recommendations?

[P T Stevens]

This is an old listing, they may be still be in business.

https://www.pentaxcamerarepair.com/

Peter

On 12/2/2021 3:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

As discussed in this space, my wife’s K-70 has the dreaded aperture block 
problem.

Can anyone suggest a better (i.e. quicker and less expensive) repair outfit 
than Precision?

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PESO - Early Morning Abstract

[Rick Womer]

I think it was back when the list was the Pentax Forum on CompuServe that we 
had a somewhat cantankerous member who lived out west. One day he was driving 
from Arizona to California, when he learned that snow had closed the roads over 
the mountains. So, he got a room at the nearest motel.

To while away the empty hours, he shot a couple of rolls of film in his room; 
just making abstract photos of the furnishings and fixtures. They were very 
good.

On our trip to Lancaster County a couple of weeks ago, we were ready for 
breakfast a while before the inn started serving it. I thought of our former 
member and took a few shots around the room. This is the only one I thought was 
a keeper:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/November-2021/Autumn/i-BFKgRCX/A

Cheers, shrugs, and catcalls all appreciated.

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Re: OT: Equine photography

[Larry Colen]

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 1:52 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> John -
> I'd rather look at old film photos of yours than this overly phony 
> artsy-fartsy stuff this woman is doing..um that is overdoing.

Ann,

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Re: OT: Equine photography

[ann sanfedele]

John -
I'd rather look at old film photos of yours than this overly phony 
artsy-fartsy stuff this woman is doing..um that is overdoing.

But it seems to be the fashion these days...


Yup Dave was doing Equine photography

 straighforward shots of working horses that are much more appealing 
and real..
I believe there were shots of young equestirans as well in shows - even 
some jumpers, yes?


ann


On 12/2/2021 3:20 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Didn't David Brooks used to post a lot of horse stuff from those "old 
time" farm events from around where he lives?


I consider that equine photography.

Besides, why should dogs & cats get all the attention?

On 12/1/2021 9:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Quite elaborate and dramatic!

First equine photographer I have encountered.

Reminds me of the tiny veterinarian's office I came across in the 
village

of Oldwick, near where I live.  I couldn
't figure out how they managed with such a small office, and no 
parking or

outdoor runs.  Then I noticed that under the name of the group it stated
"equine sports medicine."
Everything they do is by house (or horse) calls.

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For the first time since Covid I joined my Nature Photography Club for
their monthly meeting via Zoom. This month's presenter was Phyllis
Burchett who specializes in Equine photography.

Some really inspiring photography:

https://phyllisburchettphoto.net/galleries/






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Too bad nobody told the Fizzball folks about this

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Re: K-70 repair recommendations?

[Bill]

Apparently it isn't a difficult repair. The problem is finding a solenoid
that won't fail. Apparently  Pentax changed suppliers and the new units are
failure prone. My understanding is the new ones are one colour, I recall
white, and the old ones are green, though I might have it backwards.
If I'm not mistaken, even one from as far back as a Super Program will fit.

bill

On Thu., Dec. 2, 2021, 2:40 p.m. Rick Womer,  wrote:

> As discussed in this space, my wife’s K-70 has the dreaded aperture block
> problem.
>
> Can anyone suggest a better (i.e. quicker and less expensive) repair
> outfit than Precision?
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Re: Test

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> On Dec 2, 2021, at 7:04 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 02.12.21 um 14:26 schrieb Mark C:
>> 
> 
> 5 by 9

nine?  Don’t you mean five by five?

The first number being signal, the second clarity.

73,
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K-70 repair recommendations?

[Rick Womer]

As discussed in this space, my wife’s K-70 has the dreaded aperture block 
problem.

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than Precision?

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Re: OT: Equine photography

[John Sessoms]

Didn't David Brooks used to post a lot of horse stuff from those "old 
time" farm events from around where he lives?


I consider that equine photography.

Besides, why should dogs & cats get all the attention?

On 12/1/2021 9:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Quite elaborate and dramatic!

First equine photographer I have encountered.

Reminds me of the tiny veterinarian's office I came across in the village
of Oldwick, near where I live.  I couldn
't figure out how they managed with such a small office, and no parking or
outdoor runs.  Then I noticed that under the name of the group it stated
"equine sports medicine."
Everything they do is by house (or horse) calls.

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On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 8:24 PM John Sessoms  wrote:


For the first time since Covid I joined my Nature Photography Club for
their monthly meeting via Zoom. This month's presenter was Phyllis
Burchett who specializes in Equine photography.

Some really inspiring photography:

https://phyllisburchettphoto.net/galleries/




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Re: Live view, arrggh

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Rick,

I’m not so much shooting for one particular need, I just don’t have any good 
recent photos.  I did want to get some photos of my full beard before I trimmed 
it back to what it is now.  I also don’t have any decent photos of myself with 
long hair.  I haven’t had long hair since 2004.   I don’t know how much longer 
I’ll keep it.

But mostly, I realized I don’t have any decent photos from the past several 
years so I wanted to get some current ones for whatever

Ann,
> On Dec 2, 2021, at 4:14 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Alan - look at his eyes.. in many he has a twinkle.  You don't have to show 
> teeth to smile.

And until I get my implant I’m not so inclined to share pictures of my teeth.

> 
> Larry - Hey, I thought you were doing -headshots- for business reasons.. 
> didn't know you were going on Match.com. ;-)

Certainly not match.com.  

> 
> Posed full body or mostly full body shots that are posed are really a turn 
> off, IMHO..  a pro head shot and snap shots in good natural light
> will get you farther.

I certainly don’t lead with the body shots. With the surplus of resolution 
available when I can’t see what is actually in the frame, I was shooting extra 
loose knowing that I can crop in on just the face and still have plenty of 
pixels to play with. 

John,

Let’s just say that no matter what one might think of my photography these 
photos are evidence of why I spend the vast majority of my time behind the 
camera rather than in front of it.


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Re: Test

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Wall to wall & treetop tall, good buddy.

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Re: Live view, arrggh

[Doug Brewer]

Friendly critique: You have the camera set too low. It's pointing at 
your chest, so the viewer gets a good look up your nose and an 
uncomfortable feeling that you're leaning back. I think I understand 
you're trying to avoid the double chin look, but that can be done other 
ways.


There could be a little too much paying attention to what the camera is 
doing and too little concentration on being the subject. Set up the 
frame, then get in it and go. Let the camera do its thing.


1. Put something in there to focus on, like the previously mentioned 
mop. Focus on it, then turn off the AF and remove the object. Might want 
to mark the floor.

2. Set the timer.
3. Hit your mark.
4. Check result.
5. Rinse and repeat.

One frame at a time. Shoot loose with enough DOF to get in focus if you 
miss your spot a little. Crop to satisfaction.


None of this requires live view.



On 12/2/21 1:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it another try 
tonight.

Oddly, things seem to be mostly working just fine with live view. I can see 
enough on the display to frame myself where I want to be, I can see the preview 
screen and get an idea how things turned out, and using my wired remote trigger 
I can take photos when I want.


On Dec 1, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

Isn't there a timer on the camera?


Yeah, that’s how I took the last set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720168248521

Warning for the faint of heart, there are a few shirtless ones at the end.

Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film era camera.  
I even have some self portraits I took years ago by sticking a mop in a bucket, 
manually focusing on that, and trying to stand in the same place using the self 
timer.

The point of my complaint was that there are a lot of advantages to being able 
to see what is in the frame.  I don’t know about you folks, but when I’m taking 
photos I don’t aim the camera and shut my eyes before pressing the shutter.  At 
least not often.

However, like I said things were working great tonight, until I realized that 
if I put the camera in single frame mode, I wouldn’t get a bunch of second 
frames with uncharged strobes, and the K-1 turned the flash off.  Long story 
short, in live view, if you put it in “motordrive” mode, whatever they call it, 
they turn off the electronic shutter.  Also, something that isn’t well 
documented, if the camera is in electronic shutter mode, it won’t fire a flash. 
  I had to disable electronic shutter to use live view with a flash.

Whoever wrote the K-1 manuals should be soundly beat about the head and 
shoulders with a tiltall tripod.  It should simply say what the effects of 
being in different modes are.  sigh.  They spent too much time trying to make 
the manuals so they don’t scare off morons who would be better off just using 
their phone cameras and don’t tell the people who know photography what they 
need.  But that is a rant for another day.

For folks who are curious, I’ll put proofs from tonight here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720194746983

I am incapable of critiquing photos of myself, so I post proofs and beg friends 
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Re: Live view, arrggh

[John Francis]

On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 07:14:06AM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:
> 
> Larry - Hey, I thought you were doing -headshots- for business reasons..
> didn't know you were going on Match.com. ;-)
> 
> Posed full body or mostly full body shots that are posed are really a turn
> off, IMHO..? a pro head shot and snap shots in good natural light
> will get you farther.
> 
> ann

I have to agree with Ann.  These shots all say "Look at me!  I'm posing!".
In particular, the upward tilt of the head seems to be looking over the
head of the viewer, rather than looking directly into the camera.
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Re: Live view, arrggh

[Rick Womer]

Larry, what are you going to use the photo for?

Applying for a job in an engineering firm and submitting a shot to a 
bodybuilding magazine (for example) have different requirements.

Rick

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:01 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2021, at 11:40 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>> 
>> Seems to have worked well. You're quite a large customer -
> 
> I have lost a few pounds cycling regularly during the apocalypse, so I could 
> have been larger.
> 
>> the hair even amplifies that!  I looked in vain for one with a smile.
> 
> Unfortunately, when I try to force a smile it looks like I am fighting a near 
> terminal case of gas.  
> 
> Also, almost a year ago I lost a tooth that was damaged when I was in high 
> school, and I’m still a month or two out from finishing with the implant.
> 
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Re: Test

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.12.21 um 14:26 schrieb Mark C:




5 by 9

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Re: Test

[Daniel J. Matyola]

10-4

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Re: Test

[Alan C]

OK in Phalaborwa.

Alan C

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Re: Live view, arrggh

[ann sanfedele]

Alan - look at his eyes.. in many he has a twinkle.  You don't have to 
show teeth to smile.


Larry - Hey, I thought you were doing -headshots- for business reasons.. 
didn't know you were going on Match.com. ;-)


Posed full body or mostly full body shots that are posed are really a 
turn off, IMHO..  a pro head shot and snap shots in good natural light

will get you farther.

ann

On 12/2/2021 2:40 AM, Alan C wrote:
Seems to have worked well. You're quite a large customer - the hair 
even amplifies that!  I looked in vain for one with a smile.


Alan C

On 02-Dec-21 08:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
I think I learned some things from my last shoot and am giving it 
another try tonight.


Oddly, things seem to be mostly working just fine with live view. I 
can see enough on the display to frame myself where I want to be, I 
can see the preview screen and get an idea how things turned out, and 
using my wired remote trigger I can take photos when I want.


On Dec 1, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Doug Brewer  
wrote:


Isn't there a timer on the camera?

Yeah, that’s how I took the last set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720168248521

Warning for the faint of heart, there are a few shirtless ones at the 
end.


Ann also explained how I could do the self portraits using a film era 
camera.  I even have some self portraits I took years ago by sticking 
a mop in a bucket, manually focusing on that, and trying to stand in 
the same place using the self timer.


The point of my complaint was that there are a lot of advantages to 
being able to see what is in the frame.  I don’t know about you 
folks, but when I’m taking photos I don’t aim the camera and shut my 
eyes before pressing the shutter.  At least not often.


However, like I said things were working great tonight, until I 
realized that if I put the camera in single frame mode, I wouldn’t 
get a bunch of second frames with uncharged strobes, and the K-1 
turned the flash off.  Long story short, in live view, if you put it 
in “motordrive” mode, whatever they call it, they turn off the 
electronic shutter.  Also, something that isn’t well documented, if 
the camera is in electronic shutter mode, it won’t fire a flash.   I 
had to disable electronic shutter to use live view with a flash.


Whoever wrote the K-1 manuals should be soundly beat about the head 
and shoulders with a tiltall tripod.  It should simply say what the 
effects of being in different modes are.  sigh.  They spent too much 
time trying to make the manuals so they don’t scare off morons who 
would be better off just using their phone cameras and don’t tell the 
people who know photography what they need.  But that is a rant for 
another day.


For folks who are curious, I’ll put proofs from tonight here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157720194746983

I am incapable of critiquing photos of myself, so I post proofs and 
beg friends to tell me which ones suck the least.




On 12/1/21 12:03 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
I need some recent portraits, and have made some attempts at 
selfies.  It’s extra challenging when you can’t see what the camera 
does.
I had the clever idea that I can plug an external monitor into the 
HDMI and use that for framing etc.
It *almost* works.  Unfortunately, if I set the camera’s exposure 
to use strobes the live view is so dark it won’t auto focus.  Even 
when I put it on manual focus, it often refuses to fire the shutter.

Also the screen is so dark, it’s damn near useless for live view.
And there is no way at all to change things so that you can use 
live view with a flash.

Sigh.
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Re: Live view, arrggh

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> On Dec 1, 2021, at 11:40 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Seems to have worked well. You're quite a large customer -

I have lost a few pounds cycling regularly during the apocalypse, so I could 
have been larger.

> the hair even amplifies that!  I looked in vain for one with a smile.

Unfortunately, when I try to force a smile it looks like I am fighting a near 
terminal case of gas.  

Also, almost a year ago I lost a tooth that was damaged when I was in high 
school, and I’m still a month or two out from finishing with the implant.


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