Re: D600 vs K-5
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Marco came over to whiskymas for a while tonight, and brought his D600. I didn't get a lot of time to play with it but we did spend a few minutes doing some low light focus tests, and the K-5 definitely outperformed the D600. It was dim light, the K-5 was able to lock focus, albeit with a bit of hunt and seek, and the D600 simply wasn't able to lock focus. One of the 'Cons' from a few on line reviews was the AF capabilities of the D600. Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. That said, the D600 shares the D7000's AF tech, which is considered to be significantly better than the K-5's poor unit by the accepted wisdom (and probably is, when shooting AF-C in good light) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why not a SATA SSD the size of a CF card?
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Last night, I was thinking about how one performance limitation that I run up against the most often is write speed to the storage. My first idea was a camera grip that had a slot for a laptop SSD drive. My second thought was that a compact SSD would be better. Even if storage were limited on the initial generations of the platform, even 128GB at SATA, or better yet STA-3 speeds, would be so much better than writing to SD cards. We're talking up to 1500-3000 MBPS rather than 30-45: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bit_rates I expect that in ten years the SATA bandwidth might start proving claustrophobic again, but it would certainly be a big improvement over SD cards. Both for the initial write time, and for transferring files to the computer. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est That's exactly what a CFast card is, SATA rather than PATA Compact Flash. XQD which is PCI Express rather than SATA is also an option. Note that SSD's are the same at the chip level as CF cards. But SD is capable of comparable speeds to current XQD or CFast implementations with the UHS-I cards. The speed rating is pretty irrelevant now, the current next-gen interfaces (CFast, XQD, SDXC) are all capable of significantly more bandwidth than current devices are (with the exception of CF and SDHC, both of which are limited by their interfaces) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax????????
Ricoh did get out of the SLR business during the AF era (to some extent, they actually continued to sell MF film SLR's until recently, but the body was a Cosina) although they did have a longtime presence in the high-end compact side of things with their GR compacts (which are simply awesome). But they're been increasingly involved in selling high-end compacts and mirrorless systems. Buying Pentax gives them back an SLR system in a mount they know intimately and gives them access to the manufacturing capacity and sales structure they've lacked outside asia. This isn't a repeat of Konica-Minolta. Ricoh's only buying the camera division where Konica wanted only the business imaging side of Minolta and also had been trying to get rid of their own Camera division for decades (despite it being both a major film producer and a producer of rather innovative cameras including the only truly modern M mount body in the Hexar RF). -Adam On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:45 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh left the SLR business years ago. I really hate to say this but, this looks too much Konica buying up Minolta, and we all know how that turned out. Minolta users were lucky that Sony was looking to enter the DSLR market. If Hoya wasn't big enough to keep Pentax a going concern, how the hell is Ricoh going to do it? On 7/1/2011 1:35 AM, Miserere wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Is Ricoh Going to Buy Pentax????????
It probably means both that we'll see a Q-mount module for the GXR and that we won't see a Pentax APS-C mirrorless camera. -Adam On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It does make me wonder about Pentax's EVIL/MILC/Whatever plans. I wonder if they will continue with the APS-C K mount version or combine efforts with and produce a K mount module. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: So will the new badge be Rictax or Pentoh? Sent from my iPod On 2011-07-01, at 1:35 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not even joking! http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/06/ricoh-buying-pentax-according-to-reuters-japan-sources.html If true...wow —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Samsung Prototypes
Friend of mine rents a CFi back for his SWC regularly. Not as wide as film, but he gets some great stuff. -Adam On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: If they make a digital Hasselblad SWC ... On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: http://blog.digitalrev.com/2011/05/18/hasselblad-leica-inspired-samsung-concepts/ The cubes are interesting. FF mirrorless in an MF format? -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50 cent enablement
Those little Freeman Patterson books are gems. Great inspiration to go out and shoot. -Adam On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I dropped in on a Knights of Columbus fund-raising book sale yesterday. Bought a few fiction paperbacks and such, but I acquired a real gem: Photographing The World Around You, A Visual Design Workshop by Freeman Patterson. I've read a few chapters and it's already inspiring me to try some ideas. Fifty cents -- can't beat it. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Panasonic announce LUmix G3
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: William Robb wrote Sat, 14 May 2011 16:09:03 -0700 On 14/05/2011 5:04 PM, Jim King wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1105/11051210panasonicdmcg3.asp If only this camera had an APS-C sensor and a K-mount... You can get an adapter, and it's a 2x crop (not that I like the term all that much) That's the lesser half of my concern - what I want is a larger APS-C sensor in a body with the same feature set as the G3. Regards, Jim The Samsung NX's are pretty similar in feature set and have the K20D sensor. The Sony NEX's lack the EVF but have a much better sensor than any of the other mirrorless cameras. There should be a NEX with an EVF announced in late july (higher-end body), possibly with the K-5 sensor, possibly with a new higher-resolution sensor expected to also show up in the Sony A77 and Nikon D400. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50 cent enablement
Patterson's work mostly predates ubiquitous video, his books were mostly written from the 70's through early 90's. Interesting to note that based on that video he's still shooting film. Patterson is known for almost never discussing gear and specifically never mentioning what gear he uses beyond basics like 'a macro lens' or 'a wide angle lens'. The brief bit with him out shooting shows that he's using a Minolta Maxxum 7 (which has a status LCD on the back, like a DSLR, one of many ideas Minolta pioneered in the AF era). -Adam Who currently shoots with a pair of Maxxum 7's. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: I was curious to see if I could locate any videos of or with Freeman Patterson and the only one I came across is the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiiN9IUEYHQ ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: 50 cent enablement I dropped in on a Knights of Columbus fund-raising book sale yesterday. Bought a few fiction paperbacks and such, but I acquired a real gem: Photographing The World Around You, A Visual Design Workshop by Freeman Patterson. I've read a few chapters and it's already inspiring me to try some ideas. Fifty cents -- can't beat it. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ektachrome!
Not only can it still be developed but Kodak still sells Ektachrome, albeit a more limited selection these days. -Adam On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: I found a roll while poking around a usually-neglected shelf. Should get the urge, can it still be developed? My wife wants to save it as a curio, so an argument will occur. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Android Camera Apps Suggestions
I run Photo Tools, which is a grab-bag app for a bunch of photography-related things like metering, exposure calculator, DoF calculator and other bits. That's the only photo app on my Samsung Galaxy S other than Photoshop Express. -Adam On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/9/2011 23:49, Larry Colen wrote: The camera on my first gen moto droid is so full of suckage that it's moot. Mark! Also I must say that the word suckage is new to me... I know the word suckiness but not this one... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/12/2011 13:49, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hi Jostein, P-TTL works with my K-5 when using the manual focus A400/5.6. The same was true with my K10, K20, and K-7. However, P-TTL doesn't work with my K lenses. I think autoexposure is the key here. Paul Paul, can it be that with A-lenses P-TTL works in reduced functionality mode? I am asking because it is my understanding that P-TTL uses distance to object (reported by AF lenses) for its processing. Boris P-TTL uses preflash with A and later lenses for TTL calculations. It can use distance reporting on FA and later lenses to improve the calculation for direct flash (not bounce) but that ability is not required and is in fact not supported by all AF lenses, only FA and later. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses
The K-7 does P-TTL just fine with A lenses and it is officially supported, if you had an issue there's a problem with either the lens or the camera. -Adam On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:26 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: If the K-5 has reintroduced support for P-TTL with A-series lenses, that's great news. I know from experience that the K-7 does not give P-TTL with A*200/4 macro. I tried both the AF540FGZ and the AF160FC ring flash. 2011/4/12 SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org: Copied from page 187 in the K-5 manual: http://album.heime.org/album/temporary/pttl.jpg Stig Vidar Hovland Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av AlunFoto [alunf...@gmail.com] Sendt: 12. april 2011 12:14 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses To those interested in technical stuff about 645D, I've looked at how flash metering is implemented in 645D. As most of you probably know, the K-mount cameras no longer support the old-style TTL flashes. The last camera to do so was the *istDS2. Now it's only P-TTL that works. And only with AF lenses. With manual focus lenses you have no TTL flash metering at all. I was worried that this might be the case for 645D too, but fortunately P-TTL works with the 645A-series lenses too. If you can live with inconsistencies in automatic white balance. A minor nit, in my opinion. Full-length meanderings here: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/04/645d-part-3.html Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hasselblad lenses on Pentax DSLRs
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Adam, The F 110/2 Planar is a gem ;-) It is surely priced like one ;) 6390$ B. You can find them for around $1000 used, they're not terribly valuable since no current Hasselblad body can use them as they don't have a leaf shutter (the 200 and 2000 series bodies they were designed for are out of production). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hasselblad lenses on Pentax DSLRs
The F 110/2 Planar is a gem ;-) -Adam On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/5/2011 14:16, eckinator wrote: 2011/4/4 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com: But do you have those 'Blad lenses, Bulent? if I am not mistaken, blad means something not so pleasant in russian. pun intended, gospodin liberman? Nope, the word you might be thinking of is different and absolutely no pun was intended. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why no videos?
Video takes a lot of work to do well and generally requires a lot more support than stills do. And most DSLR's produce lousy video (particularly Pentax and Sony Video-capable DSLR's). And you need a new set of software to edit (and good video involves a LOT more editing than stills work). Frankly unless you're a PJ, event shooter or somebody shooting clips for personal use (video snapshots of kids/family/friends) Video on DSLR's is mostly useless and requires skills that most still shooters don't have and aren't interested in developing. Personally I've shot a bit with both the K-x and now the A33. But the results were shit, much as I expected. I don't feel like spending the time necessary learning to get good at it, even though I've actually got a reasonable amount of experience (I've been doing bits of video on and off for 20 years now) -Adam On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hello list, There seems to be quite a number of you folks out there who now have newer DSLRs with video capabilities. It's been a year or more since these cameras came online but I don't see any VideoESOs flying past in the PDML. Granted, I don't check the list as often as I used to and I don't read nearly as many of your messages as I once did (I AM still watching you though...Cotty... and Frank... and Doug) but I figured by now video submissions would be a common occurrence around here. Is video a gimmick feature that you just don't use? Are your videos too racy? (let us judge ;) Is making decent videos just too hard? Or are you guys just too much the old dog type or even purists? For my part, having at least six video cameras lying around the house (I'm actually surprised by this number but I'm counting the cell phones and PS cameras + 1 Flip style camera), I find that the same problems that have plagued us since the days of film-based home movies. Just rolling during family events and outings produces lots of crap footage that nobody really wants to edit into a package that anyone besides Grandma would want to watch. So, Why no VESOs, y'all? Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Hard drives
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:49 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: It should be a standard size. More importantly you need to determine if it's a serial (SATA) or parallel (PATA) drive and get a USB case to match. Given the age, it's more than likely parallel. I'm guessing there will be something marked on it.?? Dave You can tell by connector type. If it's a wide ribbon cable (with 2 rows of pins in the plug on the drive) it's IDE/PATA. if it's a skinny cable with a weird connector it's SATA. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D fiddling
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 January 2011 09:11, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: RED Announces a whole lot of stuff. They're worse than Sigma for shipping announced cameras (The EPIC hasn't shipped yet, there's a single one in the wild. It was announced before the Canon 5DmII) -Adam In their defence, at least they're open about what they're working on (and they clearly state that deadlines *will* move backwards). If Pentax were as open, we'd know whether there would be a FF camera in the near future, or a DA* 11-16mm f/2.8, or a 1.4x TC, or a DA Ltd 28mm f/2, or a DA Ltd 135mm f/2.8, or... I prefer RED's approach. —M. Pentax tried RED's approach with the 645D and MZ-D (Promise lots, ship late to never). I prefer Pentax's current approach (promise nothing until its ready). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D fiddling
I've used a 645DF (at a PhaseOne demo session for CaptureOne 5), it's not just a studio camera and while not as slick as the 645D, it's quite easy to use once you get the hang of it. Plenty of people shooting in the field with it too. -Adam On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I just read a review of the PhaseOne 645DF in Shutterbug. Aside from being considerably more expensive than the 645D, there was an obvious difference in the reviews of the 645D. The DF is a studio camera and a but hard to use. Most of the 645D reviews have a guy running outside in the rain with the D and popping off these amazing nature shots. Price aside, Pentax may have really nailed the Digital MF field camera. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I had the chance to try it today when I got my K-5, and I just have to add one thing: The viewfinder was a dream! DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 6. jan. 2011 kl. 23.20 skrev AlunFoto: Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations: 1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its A position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera. 2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though. 3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too dark) than what you find with eg. K-7. 4. There's no snap-in focus with manual focus lenses. This is the same as for 645N/645Nii. 5. You will not boost your FPS by going from single to multiple drive mode. :-) 6. There is a blessed absence of LiveView, video, and in-camera post-processing presets. oh, and what should be the zeroth point: It takes absolutely fabulous pictures, even of crappy motifs. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sony A850 vs Pentax K-7 or Boris examines lots of photos
The A850 and A900 are optimized for low ISO shooting. They use a stronger Colour Filter Array than anything else short of a MF system which gives them the best colour at low ISO's at the cost of poor high ISO performance. Note that if you downrez A900 files to APS-C resolutions you pick up performance, the A900 downrez'd to 12MP delivers high ISO results only about a half-stop behind a D700. But you need to downrez to get that performance. I'd expect the K-5 to provide similar performance in most regards, with better High ISO performance out of the box and worse low-ISO performance. Dynamic range should be similar though (the A900/A850 give up a bit of DR as well for the stronger CFA). -Adam On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Good post. I suspect that the K-5 can outperform the A850 in all but pixel count. But that's just a guess based on sensor tests and a wedding photographer friend's comments regarding his A850. Paul On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! As I wrote earlier, my friends from DC (well, actually it is MD, but I like to think of this as DC) came for a visit and left. Among other things I did back up photos for my friend and I was given an opportunity to keep them for my examination. He has Sony A850 and an assortment of lenses, notably the famous Minolta Beer Can, Tamron 17-35/2.8-4.0 and Tamron 90/2.8 macro. I have looked and processed and examined and pixel peeped few dozen images and compared some of them side by side given that we were shooting at the same time on the same location. Few ideas crossed my mind: 1. Under bright day light Sony wins hands down. The exposure latitude and color fidelity are ahead of those of K-7. The dynamic range difference is evident once you start to play with curves and look into shadow-to-light transitions. 2. Under low light both cameras struggle, though my friend does not shoot above ISO 1600, while I shoot at ISO 3200. Given pixel count advantage, I think it might be possible to downsize Sony images to take care of some of the noise. So, on the surface it looks like naturally one might want to upgrade to either full frame or another Pentax camera with better sensor. On the other hand, I had to look at 1:1 or even 3:1 (300% magnification) and really side by side to see those differences. Of course playing with exposure slider makes different impression immediately, but beside that I really don't think that Pentax is so much behind. Let's say that the difference is 10-15% although I do admit and do realize that these percentage points are meaningless. What I am trying to say is that the difference is relatively small. I have some reservations about the aforementioned lenses' performance in some of the situations, but that's a different matter. Thankfully, I don't feel like I should or even must update from K-7 to K-5 or to Canon 5DMk2 or whatever. I kind of used to feel that way having seen Paul's comparison shots from his basement. I also think that to say that camera A offers revolutionary improvements in IQ dept over camera B (*) would be a serious overstatement or simply a market speak. Well, at least I had my chance to vent. Boris (*) As long as both A and B are of similar general class. It stands to reason that 16x24 and 24x36 cameras are closer than it might have seemed initially. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D fiddling
If their biggest complaint was the software, the Reviewer was an idiot, CaptureOne (the software package for the 645DF) is only the #2 RAW conversion package on the market and is probably #1 for the sort of customer that would be buying a MFDB solution. The software is bulletproof and incredibly powerful but lacks the organizational features of Lightroom (C1 is designed to be used in parallel with a DAM solution). I used it for several years before moving to LR for the DAM capabilities (driven more by how crappy Expression Media is than any problem with C1, EM sucks, C1 doesn't but LR replaces both. I still use C1 for some work though as its base conversions can be significantly cleaner at high ISO's than LR's). If it simply wasn't liking the software UI on the digital back, there's a reason why PhaseOne offers 3 completely different UI paradigms (PhaseOne backs, Leaf backs and Mamiya DM backs all have completely different UI paradigms and work on the DF). The Leaf backs are closest to what a DSLR shooter would expect. The primary market for 645's is high-end location work, a pure studio shooter will likely have an RZ or RB system instead, with a full selection of leaf shutter lenses (rather than 3) and bellows focusing. The entire point of the 645DF over other 645's is daylight sync (1/1600 flash sync when using the 3 LS lenses with a P65+ or P45+ back, 1/800 with other backs and LS lenses). -Adam On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Look here, if you're going to confuse the issue with the facts. . .;-) SB just said that few of these will ever leave the studio. Their biggest complaint, as I understood it, involved the software. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: I've used a 645DF (at a PhaseOne demo session for CaptureOne 5), it's not just a studio camera and while not as slick as the 645D, it's quite easy to use once you get the hang of it. Plenty of people shooting in the field with it too. -Adam On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I just read a review of the PhaseOne 645DF in Shutterbug. Aside from being considerably more expensive than the 645D, there was an obvious difference in the reviews of the 645D. The DF is a studio camera and a but hard to use. Most of the 645D reviews have a guy running outside in the rain with the D and popping off these amazing nature shots. Price aside, Pentax may have really nailed the Digital MF field camera. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I had the chance to try it today when I got my K-5, and I just have to add one thing: The viewfinder was a dream! DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 6. jan. 2011 kl. 23.20 skrev AlunFoto: Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations: 1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its A position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera. 2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though. 3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too dark) than what you find with eg. K-7. 4. There's no snap-in focus with manual focus lenses. This is the same as for 645N/645Nii. 5. You will not boost your FPS by going from single to multiple drive mode. :-) 6. There is a blessed absence of LiveView, video, and in-camera post-processing presets. oh, and what should be the zeroth point: It takes absolutely fabulous pictures, even of crappy motifs. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
Re: 645D fiddling
It's a standard install and software key for CaptureOne (tied to an account at phaseone.com), difficulty is right in between LR and Photoshop (harder than LR, easier than PS) for activation. C1 comes with the PhaseOne and Mamiya packages (IIRC Leaf still ships with their own, crappier, software, but the backs are supported by C1 and LR/ACR). If he had to call tech support he was almost assuredly not following the simple instructions or his account was screwed up somehow. PhaseOne's activation scheme is frankly brilliant, it's designed specifically so you can deactivate one of your home installs, pickup a rental laptop on location with your rental camera kit, activate C1 on the rental with your account and have your software working fully on _your_ license, deactivate it on return of the kit (or remotely) and then reactivate your home systems when you get home to process the files. It's a good combination of low hassle and portable licensing. I've never had an issue across 5 machines and multiple versions of the software (I currently own C1 5 and 4.8, both non-Pro versions, will add 6 when support for the Sony SLT's ships). -Adam On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: He said his biggest problem was getting the software installed and activated. He said he needed tech support and suspects that the reader will as well. I cant find a way to clip out the exact quote from my digital copy of SB. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: If their biggest complaint was the software, the Reviewer was an idiot, CaptureOne (the software package for the 645DF) is only the #2 getted RAW conversion package on the market and is probably #1 for the sort of customer that would be buying a MFDB solution. The software is bulletproof and incredibly powerful but lacks the organizational features of Lightroom (C1 is designed to be used in parallel with a DAM solution). I used it for several years before moving to LR for the DAM capabilities (driven more by how crappy Expression Media is than any problem with C1, EM sucks, C1 doesn't but LR replaces both. I still use C1 for some work though as its base conversions can be significantly cleaner at high ISO's than LR's). If it simply wasn't liking the software UI on the digital back, there's a reason why PhaseOne offers 3 completely different UI paradigms (PhaseOne backs, Leaf backs and Mamiya DM backs all have completely different UI paradigms and work on the DF). The Leaf backs are closest to what a DSLR shooter would expect. The primary market for 645's is high-end location work, a pure studio shooter will likely have an RZ or RB system instead, with a full selection of leaf shutter lenses (rather than 3) and bellows focusing. The entire point of the 645DF over other 645's is daylight sync (1/1600 flash sync when using the 3 LS lenses with a P65+ or P45+ back, 1/800 with other backs and LS lenses). -Adam On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Look here, if you're going to confuse the issue with the facts. . .;-) SB just said that few of these will ever leave the studio. Their biggest complaint, as I understood it, involved the software. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: I've used a 645DF (at a PhaseOne demo session for CaptureOne 5), it's not just a studio camera and while not as slick as the 645D, it's quite easy to use once you get the hang of it. Plenty of people shooting in the field with it too. -Adam On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I just read a review of the PhaseOne 645DF in Shutterbug. Aside from being considerably more expensive than the 645D, there was an obvious difference in the reviews of the 645D. The DF is a studio camera and a but hard to use. Most of the 645D reviews have a guy running outside in the rain with the D and popping off these amazing nature shots. Price aside, Pentax may have really nailed the Digital MF field camera. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I had the chance to try it today when I got my K-5, and I just have to add one thing: The viewfinder was a dream! DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 6. jan. 2011 kl. 23.20 skrev AlunFoto: Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations: 1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its A position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera. 2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though. 3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too dark) than what you find with eg. K-7. 4. There's no snap-in focus with manual focus lenses. This is the same as for 645N/645Nii. 5. You will not boost your FPS by going from single to multiple drive mode. :-) 6. There is a blessed absence of LiveView, video, and in-camera
Re: 645D fiddling
Indeed you are. I'm annoyed at the reviewer, not you. -Adam On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Not having used it, I'm just reporting what I've read. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: It's a standard install and software key for CaptureOne (tied to an account at phaseone.com), difficulty is right in between LR and Photoshop (harder than LR, easier than PS) for activation. C1 comes with the PhaseOne and Mamiya packages (IIRC Leaf still ships with their own, crappier, software, but the backs are supported by C1 and LR/ACR). If he had to call tech support he was almost assuredly not following the simple instructions or his account was screwed up somehow. PhaseOne's activation scheme is frankly brilliant, it's designed specifically so you can deactivate one of your home installs, pickup a rental laptop on location with your rental camera kit, activate C1 on the rental with your account and have your software working fully on _your_ license, deactivate it on return of the kit (or remotely) and then reactivate your home systems when you get home to process the files. It's a good combination of low hassle and portable licensing. I've never had an issue across 5 machines and multiple versions of the software (I currently own C1 5 and 4.8, both non-Pro versions, will add 6 when support for the Sony SLT's ships). -Adam On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: He said his biggest problem was getting the software installed and activated. He said he needed tech support and suspects that the reader will as well. I cant find a way to clip out the exact quote from my digital copy of SB. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: If their biggest complaint was the software, the Reviewer was an idiot, CaptureOne (the software package for the 645DF) is only the #2 getted RAW conversion package on the market and is probably #1 for the sort of customer that would be buying a MFDB solution. The software is bulletproof and incredibly powerful but lacks the organizational features of Lightroom (C1 is designed to be used in parallel with a DAM solution). I used it for several years before moving to LR for the DAM capabilities (driven more by how crappy Expression Media is than any problem with C1, EM sucks, C1 doesn't but LR replaces both. I still use C1 for some work though as its base conversions can be significantly cleaner at high ISO's than LR's). If it simply wasn't liking the software UI on the digital back, there's a reason why PhaseOne offers 3 completely different UI paradigms (PhaseOne backs, Leaf backs and Mamiya DM backs all have completely different UI paradigms and work on the DF). The Leaf backs are closest to what a DSLR shooter would expect. The primary market for 645's is high-end location work, a pure studio shooter will likely have an RZ or RB system instead, with a full selection of leaf shutter lenses (rather than 3) and bellows focusing. The entire point of the 645DF over other 645's is daylight sync (1/1600 flash sync when using the 3 LS lenses with a P65+ or P45+ back, 1/800 with other backs and LS lenses). -Adam On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Look here, if you're going to confuse the issue with the facts. . .;-) SB just said that few of these will ever leave the studio. Their biggest complaint, as I understood it, involved the software. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: I've used a 645DF (at a PhaseOne demo session for CaptureOne 5), it's not just a studio camera and while not as slick as the 645D, it's quite easy to use once you get the hang of it. Plenty of people shooting in the field with it too. -Adam On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I just read a review of the PhaseOne 645DF in Shutterbug. Aside from being considerably more expensive than the 645D, there was an obvious difference in the reviews of the 645D. The DF is a studio camera and a but hard to use. Most of the 645D reviews have a guy running outside in the rain with the D and popping off these amazing nature shots. Price aside, Pentax may have really nailed the Digital MF field camera. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I had the chance to try it today when I got my K-5, and I just have to add one thing: The viewfinder was a dream! DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 6. jan. 2011 kl. 23.20 skrev AlunFoto: Fiddled with a 645D today. Some observations: 1. The aperture coupler works. One can bring any lens out of its A position, and the aperture is still reported correctly to the camera. 2. With extension tubes attached, exposure remains correct. Lens IDs of FA and DA lenses are not reported, though. 3. Exposure of snow scenes is more conservative (ie a little too
Re: 645D fiddling
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:44 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: On Jan 9, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Dave, I looked at the lenses and it seems that RED system is based around either 24x36 mm or smaller sensors, not MF ones... Looks like you're right. I remember seeing reference to a 6x17cm sensor on their website but that was a while ago. It's mentioned on the Wikipedia page as announced... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema_Camera_Company#Epic Dave RED Announces a whole lot of stuff. They're worse than Sigma for shipping announced cameras (The EPIC hasn't shipped yet, there's a single one in the wild. It was announced before the Canon 5DmII) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Gasha cir...@konts.lv wrote: Pentax 67 takes a lot more time to shoot. If you walk around with your friens, you can shoot something with digital SLR. In contrast, when you walk with Pentax 67 (and tripod), you cannot take your friends with you :) Gasha You certainly can walk around taking pictures with a 67. During the brief period I had mine I shot about 20 rolls handheld and 3-4 rolls on a tripod. Got good results when shooting handheld. I'd still recommend a Mamiya 7 or GS/GSW670 for the dedicated handheld shooter but the 67 can do it just fine. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: I occasionally get nostalgic and think I want to work with film again. Then I shoot a roll of film, have it processed, and work through the scanning business. After that, and after I look at the photos the process creates, I put the film camera away until the next time I feel nostalgic. Going through the cycle yet again right now. I've been scanning this roll of XP2 Super from the Olympus Trip 35. Two hours and some just to get the scanning done with a mostly automated process. It's a delightful camera, I like shooting with it. The photos it made are lovely. But I'm done once more with film. I'll be going for a walk soon and will carry ... the Olympus E-5. Hopefully the Fuji X100 will live up to my expectations, it would be nice to have a camera like the Trip 35 for when I want something smaller and lighter to knock about with. Ironically I've come to feel the same way about digital as you do about film. I still shoot some digital (Event work and the occasional desire to shoot for myself) but I keep going back to film for my personal shooting. 159 rolls last year and I expect to shoot more this year. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D fiddling
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/8/2011 3:17 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I find the video mildly useful and entertaining on the K-5. Wouldn't want it on a 645D. Don't use any presets or post processing. I have used live view when necessary to get a shot, and it works well on the K-5. Paul I don't think that video and/or live view is technologically viable on 645D. Consider the power consumption of the unit during video recording. May be some day they will come up with a sensor that can be powered up only partially, say in the center. Then we might get medium format cameras shooting video. Alternatively they still owe us power supply revolution /grin/. Boris The sensor is not capable of LV or video. Which is a distinct loss in the case of Live View (which is a superb innovation as it turns your DSLR into a miniature view camera, complete with a built-in magnifier. Absolutely awesome when working on a tripod). Personally I could care less about video. Ditto for in-camera processing and its multiple variations. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Focal Length Constriction and RF's
I'm primarily a film shooter using lenses in the 24-85mm range myself. If you normally use 2-3 primes and spend most of your time with a 35 or 50mm lens and switch to the wider or longer lens on occasion, the RF is just about ideal unless you do a lot of close-up work. Note a 24mm lens needs an auxilliary finder on most RF's, generally the widest framelines are 28mm or 35mm. You want your widest framelines to match your first or second most heavily used lens. I actually do shoot an RF, I've got a Voigtlander Bessa R with 35, 50 and 85mm lenses (I use the 90mm framelines for the 85). I'll probably add a CV 25/4 at some point to that kit. Right now I shoot probably 20 rolls a year with it (out of 90 or so rolls of 35mm a year). If you tend to use more lenses in that range or shoot mostly within the 60-85mm range I'd stick with an SLR. An RF;s 75 90mm framelines tend to be a little small and working with longer than 50mm lenses is better left to a SLR if done in large doses. Additionally RF's are more accurate at focusing the wider the lens is and SLR's are the opposite. -Adam On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Andrew Allen andrewdall...@gmail.com wrote: First, let me say thank you to those who e-mailed me with suggestions on how to enjoy this mailing list and send some specific messages straight to the circular file. That being said, I suppose one must have a thick skin when dealing with any 'open' internet forum. Back to photography, I was wondering if anyone has the same affliction I do; that is, using certain focal lengths almost exclusively. I find that 90% of my needs are covered by the rough range of 24mm - 85mm (this being a 35mm equivalent range). That is wide through portrait - clearly, I don't do any birding or serious sports work. Recently, I had a friend told me I should try out a RF for my needs - of course I'd love an M9 - but I've yet to win the lottery. Any thoughts on this focal length constriction, and the use of a RF for street shooting versus a DSLR? -- Andrew Allen Freelance Photographer and Writer www.andrewallenphoto.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Jupiter 9 85/2
Got one in LTM form. Nice lens overall, soft wide open, sharp by f2.8. Focus is a crapshoot on my Bessa R (not enough baseline to focus it wider open than f4) but on a SLR the only issues will be the typically old Sonnar low contrast softness wide open. My copy is remarkably good though. It's a clone of the old Contax 85/2 Sonnar for the early Contax rangefinders. For not too much more than a pristine copy you could get an M 85/2 or Leitax a Contax 85/2.8 Sonnar. The latter has the same basic signature with better colour, smaller size and no sharpness issues wide open. A cheap Jupiter-9 isn't a bad deal if you get a good one. Soviet crapshoot rules do apply here. -Adam On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Anyone here use it? Satisfied with it? Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: laptop recommendation
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Kenton Brede kbr...@gmail.com wrote: I've decided to purchase a laptop for RAW image processing. I'm also a budding nature audio recordist, so I'll be doing audio post processing as well. So far I've only played with Bibble and Picassa a bit processing photos. My plan is to give Photoshop and Lightroom a try. I would like to purchase a mac since it's unix based, but I need a more compelling reason than that to justify spending the extra money. Those of you who've used image processing software on both platforms, what reasons made you settle on one OS over the other for working images? Thanks, Kent It's a tossup, really. Right now I'd have to prefer Windows for Photo editing work. Better 64 bit support (allowing you to make use of more than 3GB of RAM) and the printing system doesn't have the issues that Snow Leopard currently has (and Apple still hasn't fixed. It ain't just PS with profile issues in Snow Leopard, the problem is in the printing system). It's not a huge difference but Windows has fixed most of the 64 bit issues and OS X still has a few of those. This is mostly a result of Windows (and the Windows version of Photoshop) having gone fully 64-bit a full version cycle ahead of OS X. That said, OS X is definitely ahead for Audio work and you get a pretty good low-end multitrack recording app in Garageband for free. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: laptop recommendation
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-12-12 11:02 , Adam Maas wrote: Right now I'd have to prefer Windows for Photo editing work. Better 64 bit support (allowing you to make use of more than 3GB of RAM) what specifically is better? i'm curious, and wondering if it has to do with the fact that Photoshop switched from Carbon to Cocoa as of CS5, or is it plugins still at 32 bit? for most people, are photographic images large enough that it matters? (as i understand it Lightroom's been Cocoa, and thus 64-bit since version 2, though i can suppose plugins could be a problem there too) The biggest issues are twofold, first off PS CS5 is rather buggy on OS X, where it's effectively a 1.0 release (first Cocoa version) while the Windows version is much more stable (PS has been better on Windows for the last two releases due to the Carbon/Cocoa switch and related issues). Secondly you've got the relative lack of 64bit plugins on the Mac side limiting the utility of CS5 in 64bit form, thirdly you've got the lack of 64bit support in most non-PS imaging apps on the Mac side unlike Windows where pretty much everything's been 64-bit capable for a full release cycle or more. The problems with 64bit on OS X are: a combination of the Carbon/Cocoa switch which was forced by Apple killing the announced 64-bit Carbon support late in the dev cycle which caused the CS4 release cycle to stay 32bit on OS X, serious bugs with Photoshop CS5 related to the switch (CS5 on Windows is simply more stable than the Mac version), the fact that many plugins which are 64bit capable in Windows aren't in their Mac versions as their release cycles haven't caught up to CS5, the fact that CS5 has even more issues in 32 bit mode on OS X than it does in 32 bit mode (max memory limitations which CS3 and CS4 lack and you have to use the 32bit version of CS5 to use 32bit plugins) and the simple fact that 64 bit support is much more mature on the Windows side (where it's been functionally mature since Vista was released) than the Mac side (where Snow Leopard is the first fully 64bit version of OS X) which means that there's a solid library of 64bit capable apps and drivers in Windows which OS X lacks. OS X is well ahead of where Vista was in terms of 64 bit support at the same point in the release cycle thanks to the partial 64 bit support in Leopard but it lags where Windows is now. LR does have less issues because it's been on Cocoa for longer than PS. Note I expect that these issues will go away with the next release cycle for PS and OS X, but they do exist today. -- Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I Wish
There isn't one? It's an option on the higher-end Canon and Nikon bodies. -Adam On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I wish there were an AF-C custom function setting available wherein I could disallow the shutter's releasing unless focus is achieved. Still, for special affects, re-focus or.. I'd like to retain a shutter priority option. Make sense to anyone else? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)
Tmax Developer is excellent, but just about the most expensive option. I use it solely for pushing film as it's also just about the best for maintaining shadow detail when pushing. I most of my developing with D-76 or Rodinal, with the latter used solely for slow films and D-76 for any medium speed films. -Adam On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:24 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: TMax developer works well, and it has a long shelf life. I shot a roll of BW in my Leica a few months ago and processed it with some TMax that's been sitting on the shelf for about seven years. No problems. At normal development times, the negative density was spot on. When I was shooting a lot of BW, I preferred D-76 mixed 1:1 with water -- a somewhat gentle soup that yielded a nice range of midtones-- but it involved a lot of work, since D-76 is only sold as a mix-it-yourself powder. Paul On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Thibouille wrote: I bought Tmax because that's what my reseller had in stock. Heard a couple time Tmax is the best developper, ever. Dunno what to think about that but at least it is a good one, which is OK for me. 2010/12/8 Gasha cir...@konts.lv: Welcome to the club!!! I discovered these nice things about 5 years ago. So far used only Rodinal, but i hope to try also Ilfosol. Gasha Thibouille wrote: Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house. Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part. Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right price or not... I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film when dropped to my reseller. Ouch ! BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on iPhone. The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc. Very impressive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Brief but direct encounter with Sony SLT-A55
I've had an A33 since September, ditched my K-x for it. (same basic camera, but 14MP, no GPS and only 7fps in the special burst mode). A couple comments interspersed. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 December 2010 03:48, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, great and wise women and men of PDML. I have witnessed Sony SLT-A55 and here is the impressions from that encounter: 1. It is small and light. It is so small that people with bigger hands (unlike me) may have difficulty operating it. If you're OK with a K-m/x/r, the A33/55 are fine for size, they're just a smidgen smaller. 2. A number of operations require that you press buttons on the back of the camera and if you want to do so without taking it away from your eye, it may be a bit difficult at first. But after two-three times I did it, it did not felt awkward at all. It generally works well, some things are a bit awkward though, but I rarely find myself changing most settings at eyelevel. 3. The lack of mirror slap is unusual. It is even more unusual that the sound of shutter release /seems/ like it is combined of two distinct sounds. It is not loud, though it is hard to tell if K-7 is quieter. And I did not have K-7 on me to compare them side by side. The shutter is normally open and fires twice (closes before the exposure, opens for the exposure, closes again then opens for the LV feed). This 'fires twice' sound is common to all the EVIL cameras. 4. The EVF. Well, EVFs will rule the world. Seriously. Consider this: a. To perform precision manual focus you simply point you camera where you want, press delete button twice and you get x7.5 magnified area where you can focus as precise as you want. You will also see how shaky your hands, but once you depress ever so slightly the shutter release button, the view returns back to regular and you can compose the shot. My immediate and first impression is that this is /significantly/ more convenient than split focusing screen and magnifying eye cap, simply because you get way more magnification and hence the precision. I tried it and was impressed by how easy the process was and how precise I could focus effectively right out of the box. And that's the killer app for the EVF. I replaced the K-x with the A33 solely because of the EVF making precision focus easier, especially in low light. It's also surprisingly easy to focus accurately without the magnification when using an EVF. b. Since this thing is electronic, you can do all kinds of menu related operations without taking the camera off your eye. I can hardly imagine how often such a thing could be useful, but it is there nonetheless. c. I did a but of moving of the camera around rapidly - the response of the VF was sufficiently smooth. Nothing I could object to. d. At the end I did feel a bit of strain in my eyes, but it has to be said that: d1. I couldn't change the diopter correction if there were any. Diopter adjustment is a wheel on the viewfinder like most SLR's, not Pentax's slide-type setting. d2. I usually have one or two days of felt eye strain if I change monitors. Then it subsides. May be something similar would have happened if I had this camera for more than 15 minutes. 5. As a funny or peculiar point, I'd like to point out that this camera also has the electronic level that is implemented as a rather odd looking bracket around the center of the screen. It works pretty well though, I like it better than most level implementations 6. And finally, for those of us who like to geotag - this camera has a built-in GPS module that automatically geotags your images. A55V is only available in some markets, a non-GPS A55 unit is available in the others. The A33 loses the GPS as well. All in all - worthy of any praise and quite excellent camera. Boris Welcome to the Dark Side of EVF lovers, Boris. I was also impressed with the A55, which is saying something because I've never been impressed by any of Sony's APS-C cameras (though never used the A700). How did you find AF speed? I thought it was good, with the added benefit that you can set your AF point to practically any place in the VF. —M. The AF speed is amazing for a camera at this pricepoint, as good as anything else in the sub-$1k USD range. In really low light the AF is as good or better than the D300 on the centre point (I was stunned when I found my A33 could AF in any light where I could reasonably get an exposure). You can't select an AF point anywhere in the frame though (unlike the Micro-4/3rds cameras), just one of the 15 fixed AF points. They cover a good portion of the frame though. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: Biting the bullet on the K1000 + 50mm f/?
Ansel was never much of a 35mm shooter (his preferred non-LF camera was a Hasselblad, at least late in his career). And most of his 35mm stuff was RF-era although IIRC he did shoot some with a Nikon F late in his career. One thing to recall is that Ansel was pretty much at the end of his shooting career by the time SLR's became common. He did most of his shooting from the late 1920's through the early 1960's. -Adam On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I had a friend/colleague who took a Ansel Adams workshop in Yosemite in 1971. I don't remember any comment about what (if anything) AA used to shot 35mm - the main thing my friend learned was about the zone system, visualization, and the use of the Polaroid SX-70 (IIRC) to check the composition, lighting etc. before committing to a shot with a film camera. stan On Nov 27, 2010, at 10:41 PM, paul stenquist wrote: The k1000 was introduced in 1976. By that time, Adams was 74 years old and had quit shooting for the most part and was just making some reprints and organizing his archives. Also, remember that the Pentax's fortunes in 35mm photography had slipped considerably by the time of the K series launch, and the K1000, while a nice student camera, was the entry level offering of the Pentax K lines. In other words, Ansel Adams probably never touched one, although if he had, he might have liked it. Paul On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Wasn't it St. Ansel's camera of choice when he wasn't shooting big negatives? O On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: As of approximately 6:00 PM central time this evening, I'll be the proud owner of a Pentax K1000 and what I suspect will be the 50mm f/2 ( -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Epson V500
1200dpi is low for MF work. I scan MF and LF with my Epson 4870 (predecessor to the V700) and use 2400dpi for MF and 1200 for LF (Can't use 2400dpi for LF as it exceeds the 10,000 pixel limit on older versions of PS). 1200dpi just doesn't give me a really usable file from MF negs. 3200 is probably overkill even for 35mm as most flatbeds don't actually resolve appreciably more than 2000dpi. That said, it won't hurt anything and files remain reasonably sized. -Adam On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for point that out. I was wondering how he was getting away with 1200dpi, even though I knew he was talking about medium format. I just hadn't put the two together yet. ;-) On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Nov 27, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Got my new scanner in the mail this morning. I like it very much. Been fooling around, relearning how to scan negs. It's been nearly 10 years since I've scanned for myself. I've made a couple scans at 3200 dpi and the results are good enough for me. Those scans net me a JPG file that's 5mb and equates to a little more than 8x12 at 300dpi. There is just a hint of softness to the scans, but nothing someone would notice unless they're pixel peeping. On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:28 -0600, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know how 'good' this is but I came across it some months ago on a blog I follow occasionally: http://photo-utopia.blogspot.com/2010/11/scanning-with-epson-v500.html Note that the blog is referring to scans from medium format film. Your 3200 choice may be a better starting point for 35mm images. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: Biting the bullet on the K1000 + 50mm f/?
The M series were something of an uptick in Pentax's fortunes as things had been headed downhill after the success of the early Spotmatics. The later Spotties never sold as well as the early ones and the K series didn't really sell any better which is why they were replaced so quickly. But even the M's didn't stall Pentax's decline, instead they cemented Pentax's reputation as a low-end camera company. Remember in the mid-60's Pentax dominated the 35mm SLR world alongside Nikon. By 1972-73 they were a much smaller player as Canon and Minolta in particular had introduced successful modern designs. Pentax never came close to regaining the marketshare or status they had in the mid/late 60's. -Adam On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You've got that backwards Paul. The K series, preceded the M series of cameras, which made Pentax in the '70's, (a lot of ME and ME variant cameras were sold). The K1000 was release soon after the introduction of the M series after the other K series cameras were dropped. It the various cameras after the M series and Minolta's introduction of the first really practical Auto Focus cameras began Pentax's decline. On 11/27/2010 10:41 PM, paul stenquist wrote: The k1000 was introduced in 1976. By that time, Adams was 74 years old and had quit shooting for the most part and was just making some reprints and organizing his archives. Also, remember that the Pentax's fortunes in 35mm photography had slipped considerably by the time of the K series launch, and the K1000, while a nice student camera, was the entry level offering of the Pentax K lines. In other words, Ansel Adams probably never touched one, although if he had, he might have liked it. Paul On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Wasn't it St. Ansel's camera of choice when he wasn't shooting big negatives? On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: I've been shooting the past two years almost exclusively with the M-50/2, if that's what you're getting you won't be disappointed. As for the camera, maybe it's not the greatest but its all anyone ever needs to make a photo. And it will teach you more about photography than any auto mode will. ~nick On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: As of approximately 6:00 PM central time this evening, I'll be the proud owner of a Pentax K1000 and what I suspect will be the 50mm f/2 (though, hoping for a pleasant surprise on the lens). Having spoken to the owner, it's been very lightly used, is fully functioning, and in need of a battery. I'd been afraid I was going to miss out on it, but as luck would have it, a little bit of computer tech work suddenly presented itself which allowed me to go ahead bite on it. I know it's not the greatest camera and/or lens on the planet, but I'm pretty excited about finally being able to lay hands on a 50mm prime without having to order the thing over the 'net. I have a feeling I'm going to get a LOT of use out of this lens on my K-x (and my recent discovery of the advantages of raw shooting -- [still sobbing over the shots lost to the jpg engine]), and may even venture into a bit of BW film photography before all is said and done. Anyway ... here's asking for crossed fingers toward the hope for a f/1.2 -- but, at $40 US, I'll take it whatever it is. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: Biting the bullet on the K1000 + 50mm f/?
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: The K1000 may have been a Spotmatic F with a bayonet mount but I always felt that the others in the K series were maligned unfairly. My favourite of the K and M series has always been the KX - it's match-needle metering system was very intuitive - much more so than that of the later MX. The MX is wonderful but I find it just too small. Cheers Brian The MX lacked the great weakness of the K line, the very unrefined build feel. While I'm not a big MX fan (I found it smallish, unreliable and the viewfinder is a triumph of specifications over utility) I'd be hard pressed to take any of the K line over a MX without the on/off problems. I've shot with the KX and K1000 and owned a K2. They're competent cameras but after working extensively with the Nikon FM2n and FE2 (which are essentially the FM and FE with better shutters, the basic design is concurrent with the K series) it's hard to call the K series anything other than competent but unimpressive cameras. Of course the only Pentax 35mm bodies I've truly liked are the LX and PZ-1p, particularly the LX. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement: Biting the bullet on the K1000 + 50mm f/?
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, I've never used the Nikons so I have no basis for comparison, and my relatively recently aquired LX remains unused (something I will definitely redress in the new year). Having held the KX, MX and LX, though, I still like the 'feel' of the KX over the others. Maybe I'm just odd I'm not sure what you mean by the on/off problems. Cheers Brian The design of the MX's on/off switch (aka the shutter lock) allows a poorly adjusted copy to drain the battery despite being turned to the off/locked position. It's one of the more common issues with the MX. The K bodies feel solid but rough in my experience. Smooth is generally not part of the experience. I like them better than any of the later manual focus bodies except the LX, but they aren't as pleasant to work with as a Nikon or Olympus body. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. The 20-40 isn't wide at all, I'd skip it (it's intended for a Full-frame camera) and the 16-50's a general purpose zoom. This is one case where I'd unabashedly recommend the Sigma. The 10-20 f3.5 is simply a better lens than Pentax's good but not exceptional 12-24 and the Sigma's cheaper as well. The only lens in this range I'd consider over the Sigma is Tokina's incredible 11-16 f2.8 but it's not available in Pentax mount. Don't get me wrong, the 12-24's a good lens (as is the Tokina 12-24 where the design originates) but the Sigma is definitely better. It's wider, faster, sharper and has better AF. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:44 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. The 20-40 isn't wide at all, I'd skip it (it's intended for a Full-frame camera) and the 16-50's a general purpose zoom. This is one case where I'd unabashedly recommend the Sigma. The 10-20 f3.5 is simply a better lens than Pentax's good but not exceptional 12-24 and the Sigma's cheaper as well. Have you actually tried both? I did a quick and dirty test of the Sigma and found it seriously lacking. LIke most Sigma's it's build quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Pentax 12-24, on the other hand, is an excellent lens. Paul I've tried both versions of the Sigma (the older f4-5.6 version which I owned in Nikon mount and the new f3.5 version which will probably be the only APS-C lens to be added to my current Sony/Minolta kit), the Tokina and the Pentax version of the 12-24 (same optics). The build quality on the Pentax is no better than the Sigma, although it does feel better at first glance (the Sigma EX lenses are very well built but feel kinda plasticky when new. It's due to a rubberized coating on the barrel). The optics in both the Pentax and Tokina 12-24's were inferior to the older Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6, mostly at the edge at wide apertures. The current 10-20 f3.5 (which is optically better than the older f4-5.6 version) is simply the best UW zoom for APS-C cameras on the market after the Tokina 11-16 (which isn't available in K mount) Frankly, I wouldn't consider the Pentax unless there was a cost savings for it over the Sigma, it's certainly not worth any premium. It's a good lens but not worth more than half of what it costs new outside the US, pricing is MUCH better at BH, it's a $50 difference rather than a 50% difference like it is here in Canada. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Battery Question
As can Linux. Good reason to have a non-Windows OS handy. That said, there's little reason not to use NTFS these days (Linux handles it fine, I suspect OS X can as well if you have a recent version). FAT32 is VERY inefficient with larger disks, which is one reason why MS is trying to force it out of use. -Adam On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Mac OS X can format volumes in FAT32 up to the file system maximum limits. On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 07:10:23PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: From: steve harley It's a 500GB drive. I don't think Windoze can cope with that in FAT-32. The Format utility supplied by Microsoft is artificially limited to a maximum volume size of 32GB. But if you get the disk formatted somehow (including buying a pre-formatted disk) Windows can handle FAT-32 disks and/or volumes of up to 2TB (and, with a little magic, disks up to 8TB). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's the advantage of DNG?
There's so much wrong with the SD series DSLR's (and their SA series film SLR predecessors) that it's hard to nail down anything close to a crucial weakness. No JPEG wasn't a big issue given that pretty much everything else about the Sigma's sucked worse (Bodies that would have been obsolete if 10 years older, AF which barely kept up with a Maxxum 7000, overly small, low-resolution sensors with ridiculous marketting, an inability to get good files over ISO 400, bad metering, very limited lens options, poor handling, high pricing, an inability to ship within 2 years of announcement, etc). The one thing the Sigma's have going for them is very nice per-pixel sharpness (the much vaunted colour accuracy of the Foveon X3's is in fact non-existent, Bayer sensors produce significantly more accurate colour due to having less channel overlap. The only colour-related advantage of Foveon is that colour aliasing is impossible). -Adam On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: One of the ironic mistakes that Sigma made was having RAW only dSLRs. That ensured that the photographer had the maximum potential files, but because the camera was ostensibly aimed at amateurs, it backfired badly as being perceived as a crucial weakness of the camera. John Bean (UK) used to blow me away with his Sigma dSLR images. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I was wondering ...
They've been back since the K10D and K100D Super, delivering power to the SDM lenses and re-enabling basic PZ functionality. -Adam On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Boris, I hadn't taken note of those same pins in my K-x. But there they are !!! Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.4 AL lens test
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:48 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: A broken bayonet should not be the end of the universe as we know it. I've changed a few broken Nikon bayonets for customers. It's a 30 minutes job, and a plastic bayonet costs about $ 15. What about the secondary damage when the lens hits the ground after the bayonet breaks? There's usually no drop, just the lens hanging in the bayonet from the other lugs. It's not usable in this state though as it will be quite loose. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: off-camera flash
How far off-camera? You have wireless commanding built-in with most of the recent Pentax bodies which means no extras needed for basic wireless TTL -Adam On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:04 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: quick question for those who have tried both - to use a p-ttl flash off camera would you advise using a) pentax F (male / female hotshoe adaptor plus sync cable) b) 3rd party cheapo cable solution c) wireless, if so, which one? thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.4 AL lens test
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/19/2010 7:39 PM, Adam Maas wrote: There's only two issues with plastic bayonets. 1. They are far more likely to fail if any off-axis force is applied to the lens. I've seen quite a number of these, usually with kit zooms. This is not likely to be an issue with smaller primes like the DA L 35 though as there's much less of a moment arm available to put force on the bayonet lugs if the lens gets knocked. 2. They do wear quicker than a metal bayonet. VERY unlikely to be a real-world issue unless you change lenses multiple times per day, every day, for 10+ years. It's only under very heavy use that bayonet wear becomes an issue. -Adam Adam, isn't it then a logical conclusion that if one exercises minimal caution during lens change and does not change their lenses every 5 minutes, plastic bayonets are as good as the metal ones? Boris Yes for compact lenses, not so much for physically longer lenses. It's not an issue for something like the DA L 35, but even a DA L 18-55 is long enough that a sharp knock can break a bayonet lug (seen this on a number of similarly sized lenses to the DA L 18-55). Wear isn't an issue in any realistic circumstance. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It's a great lens, but not what I bought it for
Tamron 90/2.5 macro. Bought it as a Macro to replace the 90/2.8 AF Macro I'd foolishly sold, ended up using it almost entirely as a regular short telephoto (which it's brilliant at). -Adam On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: When I bought my sigma 20/1.8, the intention was to use it for indoor, low light, dance photography. For various reasons, mostly involving manual focus, it hasn't proven to be as good for that as I had hoped. On the other hand, I'm finding it very handy as a wide angle macro lens. For example, a lot of the time that I'm shooting mushrooms, to get the angle I want, I need to be very close to the subject because roots of the stump, or the ground, is in the way if I'm trying to use a longer lens. Does anybody else have lenses that they bought for one use, that they later found are much better for something else entirely? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The right tool for the job
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Nov 20, 2010, at 15:24, Larry Colen wrote: Thanks all for your comments. Ann, I did some pixel peeping on other photos in the set looking for evidence of tripod shake. I think that one problem I'm having is accurately focusing the 20/1.8 in the dark. I suspect that infinity is not exactly infinity. On my cameras auto focus won't work in that light, and I didn't bring my laser pointer. This is going to sound odd, but the last time I did long exposures at night, I found that using the Live View was a great way to quickly get my little points of light in the distance to be as tiny (thus, in-focus) as possible with a minimum of fuss. I tried that, but couldn't see anything in live view, I'll have to try again and see what it takes to get it to work. It does work, but can be a pain. Getting the stars to points is probably the easiest, but for that shot I'd just set the lens to infinity and use DOF. That and stopping down to f/8 or so. Good point, but I was already exposing at 30 seconds. Bulb and a locking cable release, no reciprocity failure on digital so test exposure at 30s, stop-down and reshoot -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.4 AL lens test
There's only two issues with plastic bayonets. 1. They are far more likely to fail if any off-axis force is applied to the lens. I've seen quite a number of these, usually with kit zooms. This is not likely to be an issue with smaller primes like the DA L 35 though as there's much less of a moment arm available to put force on the bayonet lugs if the lens gets knocked. 2. They do wear quicker than a metal bayonet. VERY unlikely to be a real-world issue unless you change lenses multiple times per day, every day, for 10+ years. It's only under very heavy use that bayonet wear becomes an issue. -Adam On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Roman, I've FAJ 18-35 with plastic bayonet. I bought it in Norway back in 2006. It has seen certain use and I can see nothing happening to the bayonet. In fact, plastic bayonet does not trouble me at all given my experience with FAJ 18-35 lens. Boris On 11/19/2010 4:17 PM, Roman Melihhov wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2010s=0category=infoblog=20101119151942 ^^^ first impression of the new lens. It is so fresh my exiv2 - exif library can't identify the lens, simply giving Unknown (7 214) but this shall bi fixed with further software updates... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Engineer humor
Groan -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Warning, a pun bad enough that I laughed out loud: http://partiallyclips.com/2010/09/24/workplace-conversation/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: MBOI Tamron PKA2
Damn, didn't realize they were so expensive. Might have to part with mine since I'm not really using it anymore. -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: someone here wants one, IIRC Larry or Darren - there is one in the German bay: 200545075350 but please note that it may go high, last one here sold for over € 62 =~US$100... =[ Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
No, when doing BW conversion from colour I handle the filtration in post (Note I've been known to do this with both colour film and digital. Provia 100F in particular makes just lovely BW images). BW images online tend to be overly contrasty as that grabs attention (and I say that as someone who tends to like a lot of contrast in his BW). You can do very nice BW conversions with subtle tones but that sort of image really needs to be printed to look good, especially on consumer-grade monitors. -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
If you read that again, you'll note he mentions DX (APS-C), FX (FF 35mm Digital) and 35mm (35mm film) and then lists exampls of each including the F6 as the only 35mm body on the list (the D700 and D3X are FX, the D7000 and D300s are DX). -Adam On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Hahahahaaa... did you know that the Nikon F6 is an APS-C digital? Quote: This is an FX lens, and works especially well with on FX, 35mm and DX Nikons like the D7000, D700, D3X, D300s and F6 2010/11/17 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I think I may have a problem....
Only three of his listed bodies are worth more, the OM2S, K1000SE and MX. The OM2S is kinda interesting, but I'm trying not to buy anymore systems after a system sale I did over the summer (Weent from 4 SLR and 2 MF SLR systems to 1 of each, selling off some rather nice glass, especially in Nikon mount), -Adam On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:01 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately as they are film bodies I wager he averages $30. each for them. On 11/16/2010 1:33 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Wow. 29 SLR bodies? EBay and a K5 beckons. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:43 AM, CheekyGeekcheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I have been joking about selling a kidney in order to pay for a K-5, but that may not be necessary. I took a little inventory last night and what I found surprised me. I've accumulated a fair amount of stuff in my pursuit of legacy glass for my K200D (and later K-x). A rather SILLY amount of stuff. Even eliminating the stuff that I really want to keep for myself, I seem to have acquired about 22 Pentax bodies, 3 Olympus bodies, 3 Canon bodies, and 1 Minolta body. And then there are the lenses for the above. (I've also got three Yashica rangefinders and a couple of SX-70s along with a few unusual items like a Walz Wide, psuedo rangefinder and a Zeiss Ikon Contessamat.) Nothing terribly valuable individually, but collectively I think I should have little trouble in amassing $1500. I've been sentimentally hanging onto my Mamiya TLR bodies and lenses, and I have special project in mind for them so I will sell them only as a last resort. Suffice it to say that I may be able to keep the area Post Office busy for a while. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another interesting write up about 645D
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 10-11-16 7:07 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Indeed...and the K-5 is growing a very good reputation in the 'industry'...(lesnumeriques just tested the 60D and they say that it is a good camera but not at the level of K-5/D7000) The looser here semms the K-r...well...maybe the success of the K-x was based on the fact that it surpassed the K-7 in some respects, and this is not the case of the K-r vs. K-5. Regards, Jaume It can only be a good thing that the K-5 trounces the K-r in *all* respects. There was clear confusion in the market (as evidenced by the PDML sub-market) that the K-x beat the K-7 in a few ways and that hurt the K-7's reputation and Pentax sales. The K-5 seems to be entirely made of win. The K-r should benefit from the new Pentax halo effect. -bmw I think the K-r's biggest problem is that it's too much a K-x with tweaks and the K-x is just so cheap now that the price difference is a bit hard to justify for many. Still looks like a great little camera but it's lost between the much higher-end K-5 and the much cheaper K-x. --Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ot - My Mac Died - Long Live My Mac
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2010, at 09:07 , Cotty wrote: I have a Macbook Pro I got just over three years ago (one month out of the extended 3 yr Applecare warranty I bought with it) and it suddenly died on me Thursday. Wouldn't boot. Managed to rescue the few things I hadn't back up in a couple of days (by Target Disc mode onto my G4 desktop). Started troubleshooting but despite single user mode fsck, hardware test CD, swapping RAM about (with crossed fingers, I couldn't get past a kernel panic screen. Bit of web reading and it looks like the nvidia graphics card could be the cause in what appears to be a known issue on my model. Went to Apple Store Bath (no, not an Apple Store in a bathtub, it's a place called Bath!) and a genius ran the GPU tester - yup FAIL The he brightened my day by telling me the logic board (with all bits attached inc graphics card) would be replaced free of charge, ready to collect Monday. Say what you like about Apple but there's a reason some of us are fanboys! Yep! Such pleasant beyond the call service is not at all unheard of in the multi-colored rainbow world of Apple. But not something to count on. Cupertino has my money for many systems purchased since 1979, all of which seem to cost around $2495.00 by the time you add the goodies to make them better than the next guys. I always have gone as high end as my bank account or charge card would allow me, as the equipment is less likely to be outdated quite as soon. When on the rare occasion I do have a real (not owner induced) problem, I will remind the 'genius' on the other end of the phone or other side of the counter of that ongoing fanboy lifestyle most often to good result at no cost. So far, never had a fatal problem in 31 years thanks to back ups, surge protectors and stable power grids. Probably had some luck thrown my way too. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Any good VAR should provide that level of service, a poor one will not. Generally the Support Lines are useless and exist only to deny expensive warranty claims. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Review and A Rethink on my Dream Pentax Kit :-)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe now they've got that out of their system they can move on to the LXD. Right after the MX-D. But not before the MED Super. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment Knowing Pentax, an MV-D is more likely. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Review and A Rethink on my Dream Pentax Kit
Kodak DCS/DCS-100 had interchangeable finders, being essentially an F3HP with a bunch of crap stuck on. Also the Hasselblad H3D/II/H4D models do (which are all digital-only bodies, not film bodies with digital backs). -Adam On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The MX was just a bit too small. The LX was damned near perfect. However the LX's claim to fame was it's system with interchangeable finders etc. I don't know of any DSLR with interchangeable finders which probably means something. On 11/14/2010 2:33 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: What would this be? K5 innards in an LX body? Were the ergonomics of the LX that much better than the K7/K5? I've never used the legendary body so I really don't know. Now, If they could squeeze the K5 into the MX body That would be slick. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:44 AM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Miserere On 13 November 2010 18:57, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: A dream kit should be wonderful, albeit expensive. ?It's nice to see Pentax finally make this camera and make it what the old 645 was in the film world. Maybe now they've got that out of their system they can move on to the LXD. Ooh! Now *there's* a cool idea! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Darn techno advancements
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:03 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:39 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:10:29PM -, Bob W wrote: Odd. I use Word all day, every day. Save all manuscripts as docs and have never had a problem. I think it can get its panties stuck up its crack if the document template gets messed up. I've been using it day in, day out for donkeys' years and in most situations it seems to be ok if you can keep things simple. At the place I'm working now, though, they have it set up so that users can't set up and use their own default template and I find that the file sizes inflate really quickly for some reason which I haven't discovered yet. That's usually because history versioning is turned on. Turn it off and document sizes revert to something a lot more reasonable. That said, however: a .doc file (or a .pdf) is *not* the way to store plain text, which is a concept that I struggle to get across to some people. I don't want a 2MB binary email attachment that I have to open in an external program, and I don't want a .doc file attached as a comment in a project tracker. Then you're different than all the publishers out there. I have never encountered a magazine or newspaper that didn't want .doc files. They're the industry standard. Yes, they may suck, but they're the industry standard. Paul Industry standard for a reason, much of which is the assists you get with a good Word Processor. For smaller chunks of text I like text editors just fine (as well as larger chunks of code), but when I want to write anything serious I use Word for the combination of spelling grammar checks, the Thesaurus and the formatting capabilities. PDF's for text though? Ugh. Use .doc or an html file. PDF's are best used for heavily-formatted/illustrated work. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Darn techno advancements
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:46 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Adam Maas On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:03 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:39 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:10:29PM -, Bob W wrote: Odd. I use Word all day, every day. Save all manuscripts as docs and have never had a problem. I think it can get its panties stuck up its crack if the document template gets messed up. I've been using it day in, day out for donkeys' years and in most situations it seems to be ok if you can keep things simple. At the place I'm working now, though, they have it set up so that users can't set up and use their own default template and I find that the file sizes inflate really quickly for some reason which I haven't discovered yet. That's usually because history versioning is turned on. ?Turn it off and document sizes revert to something a lot more reasonable. That said, however: a .doc file (or a .pdf) is *not* the way to store plain text, which is a concept that I struggle to get across to some people. ?I don't want a 2MB binary email attachment that I have to open in an external program, and I don't want a .doc file attached as a comment in a project tracker. Then you're different than all the publishers out there. I have never encountered a magazine or newspaper that didn't want .doc files. They're the industry standard. Yes, they may suck, but they're the industry standard. Paul Industry standard for a reason, much of which is the assists you get with a good Word Processor. For smaller chunks of text I like text editors just fine (as well as larger chunks of code), but when I want to write anything serious I use Word for the combination of spelling grammar checks, the Thesaurus and the formatting capabilities. Industry standard because of Micro$ofts well known monopoly market manipulations. Industry standard because WordPerfect couldn't see the writing on the wall about WYSIWYG. Word caught on because it was simply damned good back then. It's gone downhill since Word 97 but WP and AmiPro never caught up. Note that Word developed its original dominance in the Mac market, where MS's monoploy practices were irrelevant. And the formatting capabilities are what makes me condemn Micro$oft to the nether regions of hell. Auto-format should be off by default and anyone who needs it can turn it on. Autoformat is pretty good 90% of the time. The other 10% can be over-ridden or turned off. Micro$oft's programmers don't know what they're doing, how the hell they going to know better than I do what I want to do? I don't really mind them putting all the gew-gaws in there, but I do mind them making it so difficult to turn that crap off. The programmers behind MS Office are the cream. And they do a damned good job (including Access, which is mostly about maintaining compatibility with the awful original product and that's not easy) Why should I have to fight the software to write what *I* want to write the way *I* want to write it? Because the software is designed to produce stylebook-compatible output and force it on the vast majority of idiots who just can't do anything right. The rare few who want to do it differently for good reason get stuck in the middle. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ot - My Mac Died - Long Live My Mac
Pretty standard warranty extension for a known issue. And the GPU failure issue has been cropping up regularly since the iBook G4's were current. Nothing surprising about how they treated you, I'd expect exactly the same from any of the other major brands. -Adam On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: I have a Macbook Pro I got just over three years ago (one month out of the extended 3 yr Applecare warranty I bought with it) and it suddenly died on me Thursday. Wouldn't boot. Managed to rescue the few things I hadn't back up in a couple of days (by Target Disc mode onto my G4 desktop). Started troubleshooting but despite single user mode fsck, hardware test CD, swapping RAM about (with crossed fingers, I couldn't get past a kernel panic screen. Bit of web reading and it looks like the nvidia graphics card could be the cause in what appears to be a known issue on my model. Went to Apple Store Bath (no, not an Apple Store in a bathtub, it's a place called Bath!) and a genius ran the GPU tester - yup FAIL The he brightened my day by telling me the logic board (with all bits attached inc graphics card) would be replaced free of charge, ready to collect Monday. Say what you like about Apple but there's a reason some of us are fanboys! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ot - My Mac Died - Long Live My Mac
My experience with HP is exactly the opposite. Better than my experience with Apple (and I've been a VAR tech servicing both companies in the past). -Adam On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Except, perhaps, HP, which wanted $800 and 3 weeks to fix a known defect with the northbridge connection, 1 month out of a 3-year warranty. I went and bought a Mac. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sat, 11/13/10, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Nothing surprising about how they treated you, I'd expect exactly the same from any of the other major brands. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung lenses
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:16 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Brian Walters On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:03 -0600, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: This has undoubtedly been asked before, but here goes. Are Samsung cameras/lenses corresponding to similar Pentax items not sold in the USA? I recall that Samsung started a line of dSLR cameras and lenses (badged as Schneider) a year or two ago, but have never heard of or seen them since. I think Samsung's days of re-badging Pentaxes is over. They stopped doing that with the GX20 (the equivalent of the K20D). They are more interested now in developing their NX models. I don't know if the re-badged models were ever sold in the USA (they probably were) but as they are now superseded, it's not surprising that they aren't seen. I thought the Samsung GX10 GX20 were considered to be co-development between Pentax Samasung, rather than simply re-badged Pentaxes. There were trifling differences in control layout and operation, as well as Samsung offering only DNG for their raw file. Any Schneider Kreuznach lens made to mount on the GX10 GX20 should be KAF2 usable on Pentax. I think there may have been one or two Samsung Schneider Kreuznach lens designs that were not re-badged Pentax lenses, but I couldn't say what they were. I have seen the GX10 at least once, even held one in my hands. As I remember it, it was almost, but not quite identical to my K-10D. It was at a Wolf Camera store, and you know how that turned out. The GX10 and GX20 were fundamentally Pentax cameras with fairly significant changes to the software and new external shells. The earlier *ist-based bodies differed only in software and markings. Pentax designed the camera and processing system, Samsung contributed the sensor (GX20 only) and then modified the designs to suit. All of the K mount Schneider Kreuznach lenses were rebadged Pentax lenses (but non-K mount examples are not). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
The issue becomes the fact that film is FAR more forgiving of alignment errors than digital. Not to mention the fact that the AF sensor Refle mirror needs to move with the imaging sensor and that essentially dictates the shutter has to move too. Add the fact that wider lenses require far smaller and more accurate movements of the sensor so it needs to be very precise. And it's a lot easier to toss around a lens in a helical than a mirror box, especially when the lens group's AF gearing is design specific. The AX was just about a best-case implementation of body-based AF. The biggest issues with the concept were inherent, not implementation. -Adam 2010/11/12 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: I know about Contax, I've even tested it years ago. AX autofocus wasn't simply slow, it was a disaster. Still it doesn't mean that in-body AF couldn't be done better - especially if we consider that instead of film mechanism there's only a sensor to move. After all, weight comparison between lens (group) and sensor chip is the cornerstone of in-body SR. How many people said it can not be done before Pentax engineers just came and did it? BR, Margus On 11/11/2010 11:58 PM, Adam Maas wrote: 2010/11/11 Margus Männikmar...@eol.ee: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
2010/11/11 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: at a local thrift shop, plus
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: #1 @ a local thrift shop is an old Vivitar TX-mount 24/2.8. Unfortunately it is Minolta mount. And it's $29.99. A little too much for my tastes. But I've not seen PK tx mounts around. Do they exist? Yep, should be findable on eBay in both M42 and K. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I can't identify many of them, but the one immediately to the right of the 135f1.8 looks like a Pentax 67 lens, and I found a Pentax 67 100mmf4 Macro lens that it might be. That would be consistent with the 67 to K mount adapter on the table right in front of the 135f1.8 It's definitely the Pentax-67 100/4 Macro. The mount is clearly a 67 mount (by diameter and the A/M switch). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Night Meat
A strete meat vendor in toronto after dusk http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/5160592576/ Larger/Direct http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1125/5160592576_c400fa84d3_o_d.jpg Pentax 6x7, SMC takumar 105/2.4, Tri-X 400 @EI 1600 -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Night Meat
Sadly I'm not anymore, having gone back to 645. But it was a very enjoyable couple of months and I'll probably get another (newer) 6x7 at some point when I have more disposable income. Loved the camera but can't justify two MF systems on my current budget. -Adam On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Ah Oh, somebody's shooting with a 6x7! Well done!!! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: A strete meat vendor in toronto after dusk http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/5160592576/ Larger/Direct http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1125/5160592576_c400fa84d3_o_d.jpg Pentax 6x7, SMC takumar 105/2.4, Tri-X 400 @EI 1600 -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Night Meat
Thanks! -Adam On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Atmospheric and full of ambiance... Somehow it reminds me of the streets of Prague that I walked back in Nov 2007. Boris On 11/9/2010 4:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: A strete meat vendor in toronto after dusk http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/5160592576/ Larger/Direct http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1125/5160592576_c400fa84d3_o_d.jpg Pentax 6x7, SMC takumar 105/2.4, Tri-X 400 @EI 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film for landscape and for portraits
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: I have just ordered 10 roll og slidefilm for my new 67. I've read that Fuji Astia is specially good for skin tones. Will it do well for landscapes as well? I will scan all my 6x7 images. Maybe color negs were the better choise. Which colour film would you use for 1) Portraits 2) Landscape Regards Jens Astia is a slide film which doesn't utterly suck for portraiture. That doesn't make it a good choice, just one of the least bad. Stick with Colour Negative when shooting people. My choices are: 1. Portra 160 (Pick VC or NC based on personal preference, I like VC better than NC personally) 2. Either Provia 100F or Velvia 50. Portra 160VC is also pretty good but I prefer slide for landscape. If you need a single film to do everything it's Portra 160VC. Great skin tones and enough saturation contrast to pull off landscape work. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
Even more likely is it's an old protorype of the A* 135 given that the finish resembles the old A* super-tele's. -Adam On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:45 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Pretty damn close. I'd guess that the lens in the photo posted by Jaume is a PhotoShopped version of the old A* lens. Can't see why Pentax would bo back to an A* designation. It doesn't appear to be a contemporary lens in any way. Paul On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Phil Northeast wrote: On 10/11/10 10:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Here is details of an older version http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/tele/A135f1.8.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: My reply: Ditto, and add a 28mm pancake and a couple zooms! How about being able to actually capture a moving object as seen you see it in the viewfinder? The EVFs that I've used are just about useless on non static subjects. You see the image, push the release and get a different image. For me this is a killer. Solved problem as of the A33/A55, not eactly an issue with the m4/3 stuff either. Modern high-end EVF's only issue with action is with the second shot, not the first. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: LOL On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: ... Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, let's not get into a fight, Godders! It's not a fight. I'm strongly right-handed ... I will never handle lenses and try to fit mating flanges together with my left hand. My left hand is find to hold the body still and press the button, right there on the side of the camera where I'm usually grasping it. My right hand manages working with the lens (uncoupling it, putting it in the bag, picking out the replacement, refitting it to the camera, etc...). I'm glad the Pentax mount release works for you. It doesn't for me. It's about time we derailed this thread--we all seem to have run out of jokes about Paul's table. Paul has a table? Waddaya know ... ]'-) -- Godfrey I've got the same problem as Godfrey with the K-mount release location, it's even awkwardly located for right-hand use since it's out of reach of my index or middle fingers. I find the older bodies with the lever rather than the button release work better as I can depress it with the hand gripping the lens, but you can't do that on the more modern versions.There's a good reason why every other 35mm mount in common use today ended up with the same basic setup, it makes a lot of ergonomic sense for right-handed users. Camera in left hand, holding button, lens in right hand mounting/unmounting. The only other setup I've seen which works nearly as well is the OM setup where you depress the lens release as you grip the lens to remove (Actually, I think the OM design might be a bit better ergonomically but is harder to seal). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: What I meant Ralf is that the K20D sensor was praised and then almost the same sensor in the K-7 was terrible...(and this didn't happen with the 6mpix sensor even when it was already ageing in the K100D super) Regards, Jaume When the K20D came out the sensor appeared to be a decent performer, the IQ of the K20D was competitive. I remember that Paul's K20D ISO 6400 shots were not that far behind my D300 shots at the same time in terms of noise. Experience showed however that the reality was the K20D sensor was behind the ball and the K20D processing chain was saving it. This became far more visible as newer cameras based on the variants of the D300 sensor came out and pushed performance well beyond what the K20D could as well as the appearance of the Samsung NX bodies to show what the K20D sensor looked like without Pentax's excellent PRIME engine. Note the K-x uses a variant of the same basic sensor as the D300 but has a 1-2 stop high ISO advantage. The arrival of the K-7 showed no real improvement in IQ from the sensor and processing chain and the arrival of the K-x showed just what the PRIME II engine could do with a competitive sensor which is what leads to the K-7 sensor getting bagged on where the K20D didn't. A lot changes in the 16 or so months between the K20D and the K-7. Note that Sony got this even worse, having finally replaced the last of its 10MP CCD cameras (with the K10D/K20/K-m sensor) this year, albeit with a 14MP CCD sensor that makes the K-7's sensor look good at ISO's over 400. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 November 2010 08:26, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: DxO has tested the D7000: http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/nikon-d7000-sensor-raw.html And the K-5 gets an slight advantage thanks to its ISO 80 setting, not present in the D7000. I suppose it's time for me to do my thing. Pentax K-5 vs Nikon D7000 vs Canon 7D: http://tinyurl.com/2wdn99t Looking at these scores, there is no appreciable difference between the K-5 and the D7000. Real World(TM) shooting might tell us otherwise, but DxO simply tells us this Sony sensor is very good when in the right hands. I say this because the Sony A55, with the same sensor, doesn't get as good scores as the other two cameras: http://tinyurl.com/322v5mk Note especially the poor high ISO score. At low ISO you need a good sensor, but at high ISO you also need great algorithms. --M. Note the A55 loses at least 1/3 of a stop due to the pellix mirror (which is made up by increased sensor gain) and runs the sensor hotter due to permanent LV feed. The telling performance for Sony will be the A580 which is the same sensor and processing chain as the A55 without the pellix mirror or permanent LV compromising performance. I expect it to lag in High ISO but be comparable at low ISO. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DxO results for K-5
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/6/2010 3:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: So how much are image stabilized f/1.4 Nikon lenses going for these days? There is only one such lens in currently produced Pentax line up, Larry - the DA 55/1.4. Not much if you ask me. And everyone who's shooting with FA 50/1.4 or A 50/1.2 are hmmm well, old ..rts... Boris-the-old-..rt The FA50/1.4 is still in the line as well and of course there is the Zeiss ZK 85/1.4 (while supplies last, it's being discontinued), the Samyang 85/1.4 and the upcoming Samyang 35/1.4 -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.
Dynamic Range in EV has no effect on the amount of shades the K-5 can discern, it is merely defines the maximum and minimum brightness values which supply usable data at the same time. The ability to discern individual shades (or more properly differences between two shades) is solely controlled by how many bits wide the ADC system is. The K-5 can discern 2^14 shades maximum across a 14.1 EV ( a brightness range of 2^14.1) range according to the DxO tests. There is no direct correspondence between the two. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! DXOMark (http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/All-tested-sensors/Pentax/K5) publishes that K-5 has 14.1 EV of dynamic range. My understanding thereof is that its sensor can tell apart 2^14.1 different shades which although close but slightly bigger than 14 bit RAW as per Pentax own specification. I realize that dynamic range is not the same as how many useful bits of data per pixel RAW format contains. However, given that both are scales of powers of two, it would seem to be interesting to consider which part of these 14 bits (or 14 EVs) corresponds linearly to one another. As a side remark I think it is very odd that one is bigger than another. Few examples to point: Phase One P65 Plus - 16 bit RAW, 13 EV of DR Leica M9 - 14 bit RAW, 11.7 EV of DR Nikon D3S - 14 bit RAW, 12 EV of DR What do you think? Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/6/2010 4:32 PM, Thibouille wrote: As for Mpix, I'm sorry but this is laughable seeing the little difference. Or why would Nikon guys pay for D700/D3s 'crappy' little 12Mpix sensor. As for DR, the 7D is bye bye. Oh, D700 is also. Damn. And that 60D is... well almost a toy. K5 sealing is better, fps is almost tie (7fps vs 8 fps), High ISOs are better on K5. Thibs, you cannot mount Nikon lens on Canon body. You can with a $10 adapter, as long as the lens has an aperture ring. During my brief foray into the land of Canon digital I mostly shot with a Nikkor 20/2.8 on my 10D. In fact adapted lenses on Canon are slightly more functional than pre-A K mount lenses on Pentax (you get Av mode and TTL flash with adapted lenses on Canon). You cannot mount a Pentax lens on Nikon body, etc. So, if one is shooting Nikon system, the wonders of K-5 are irrelevant. If one is having lots of K-mount lenses, the 7D's video advantages are irrelevant... And so on. Seems you have forgotten few smilies here too. Boris The 7D in fact can use K mount lenses without Cottyration of said lenses, any EF-S body can (as long as an aperture ring is present). And adapted lenses are preferred for video due to the inability of the camera to override your aperture selection. I actually know a few people who actively shoot professionally with _only_ adapted or converted lenses on Canon bodies. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I know that EF-S body takes most K mount lenses via adapter. Not so are the 24x36 Canon bodies, as my understanding that mirror may hit the aperture actuation lever of the lens... Boris The non-EF-S bodies are safe once the lens has been Cottyfied, otherwise the aperture lever hits the mirror (this affects the 1D's as well, not just the 24x36 bodies). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minor question of Englsih
I think Bob W was commenting on one of history's more interesting jokes. At some time not too long after the fall of the Roman Empire, the Scots and the Irish switched places. Scotland is actually named after the Irish, who were known as the Scotti to the Romans. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: All peoples on the Earth are brothers. And sisters. Boris On 11/7/2010 10:58 AM, Bob W wrote: The Scottish are all Irish really. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Let's bring back the K-1000
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:27 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:08 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: There are always mossbacks, and who says that the K-1000 ever really went away. Exactly. I still have two, and i see them for sale at Henrys still. Not sure if the schools photography classes still use them or they have gone digital Dave They still use film at Ryerson, which is why Downtown Camera still has their Student Special film packs (10x24exp Kentmere 400 these days, used to be HP5+ and before that it was APX400) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 'miracle'
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/7/2010 2:58 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I believe that more headroom in the dark areas is in the nature of the sensor wells. When a cup is full, you can't pour more water into it. If you try to, you pours over. I think it is almost as simple as that. In the dark areas, on the other hand, the information will be obscured by noise, but it the information is present. In other words, you can recover more information there. Higher dynamic range gives us opportunity to expose more conservatively without loosing information. I think this is what gives us more headroom in practical use. But as suggested; I'm just a bloke who speculates on this topic. Others may have mush better answers. What you say, Tim, makes perfect sense. But outside of Pentaxia, there are cameras and sensors that have more headroom in the bright areas. Or at least so it is said. I'd like to see some measurements in that regard, or better yet reports of actual experience when exposure had to be corrected in post so as to recover bright areas... Boris Practical headroom is determined by dynamic range, but the 'RAW Headroom' that everybody talks about is simply the difference between the maximum value that the default camera conversion curve uses and the actual maximum luminance value in the file. This varies greatly depending on the camera and is inherited from the camera's JPEG rendering engine (as default RAW curves typically try to match the JPEG engine's choices for exposure). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 'miracle'
Boris, The blinkies in the camera are with respect to the JPEG preview, not the RAW file. They blink at 255 (maximum 8 bit value) but that 255 is mapped to an arbitrary value on the actual scale from 0 to 16383 with 16383 being the actual maximum value. The blinkies in LR are with respect to the result of the rendering settings as applied to the RAW data, not the actual RAW data itself. What you are actually doing in Lightroom when you alter the exposure is shifting the mapping of the JPEG (or display) rendering's 0-255 values to the RAW file's 0 to 16384 range (note that one value on the 0-255 scale will be mapped to multiple adjacent values on the 0-16383 range of the RAW file). When you are adjusting exposure in LR, you are shifting the mapping up and down the RAW file's range (other controls alter the mapping inside that range or alter the 255 or 0 point mapping independently). -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Adam, Ralf, if I understand you correctly, it means that overexposure blinkies of both my camera(s) and LightRoom actually start blinking not at pixel value of 255 but somewhat prior to that. And then, you and also Adam say that whatever the minus exposure compensation I am dialing in in LightRoom to make those red blinkies disappear has nothing to do with actual sensor dynamic range? Is that so? Boris On 11/7/2010 4:22 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: What you say, Tim, makes perfect sense. But outside of Pentaxia, there are cameras and sensors that have more headroom in the bright areas. There is no way of extending the range beyond the point where all bits are set to 1. Not with Pentax nor with any other manufacturer. All you can do as a manufacturer is set the camera in a way that it deliberately 'under'exposes a little and hope that the shadows won't be drowned in noise. Now, if other manufacturers could hold back a little more on exposure, this is mainly due to the fact that they haven't been using this rotten Samsung sensor we have been plagued with for two camera generations. Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DxO results for K-5
Really? Only 11,300 hits on Bing. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/520389-REG/Zeiss_1486_390_85mm_f_1_4_ZK_Planar.html -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Do a google search on that ZK lens and you don't seem to get any hits, already down the memory hole I'm afraid. On 11/7/2010 8:04 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/6/2010 3:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: So how much are image stabilized f/1.4 Nikon lenses going for these days? There is only one such lens in currently produced Pentax line up, Larry - the DA 55/1.4. Not much if you ask me. And everyone who's shooting with FA 50/1.4 or A 50/1.2 are hmmm well, old ..rts... Boris-the-old-..rt The FA50/1.4 is still in the line as well and of course there is the Zeiss ZK 85/1.4 (while supplies last, it's being discontinued), the Samyang 85/1.4 and the upcoming Samyang 35/1.4 -Adam -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DxO results for K-5
Google nets 111,000 hits for Zeiss ZK 85mm. I prefer Bing, they make no pretense of being non-Evil, unlike Google. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I usually don't think of Bing, I know Google is evil, (no matter what they say), but most of the world seems to use them. That BH page doesn't show up on the Google search, but this one does. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Ntt=zeiss+ZF+85+1.4Q=N=0A=endecaSearch On 11/7/2010 12:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Really? Only 11,300 hits on Bing. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/520389-REG/Zeiss_1486_390_85mm_f_1_4_ZK_Planar.html -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Do a google search on that ZK lens and you don't seem to get any hits, already down the memory hole I'm afraid. On 11/7/2010 8:04 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/6/2010 3:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: So how much are image stabilized f/1.4 Nikon lenses going for these days? There is only one such lens in currently produced Pentax line up, Larry - the DA 55/1.4. Not much if you ask me. And everyone who's shooting with FA 50/1.4 or A 50/1.2 are hmmm well, old ..rts... Boris-the-old-..rt The FA50/1.4 is still in the line as well and of course there is the Zeiss ZK 85/1.4 (while supplies last, it's being discontinued), the Samyang 85/1.4 and the upcoming Samyang 35/1.4 -Adam -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, so a camera with so many bits of RAW can do what then? Discern 2^so many shades, right? Exactly. And the dynamic range is about when it goes to saturation either to pure black and pure white. Pure white and indistinguishable from noise (not pure black). The noise floor determines the actual dynamic range's low end. Ok, so tell me then, the wise people of PDML, is there a way looking at the same picture shot with K-7 and K-5 to tell them apart? Or better yet, how do I /see/ that one camera has wider DR than the other and that more BPS in RAW are more beneficial than less BPS in RAW in real life. And how all that translates to actual print? The bit depth of the RAW files shows up in subtle gradations of colour and in shadow noise. You get more subtle colour/tone resolution and less shadow noise with a higher bit depth ADC than with less (the shadow noise improvement is due to exactly how ADC's work with linear imaging sensors, you lose luminance resolution at low luminance values. Digital delivers superb resolution of bright tones and poor resolution of dark tones). In the real world, shadow noise is the easiest to see, especially on a camera which can shoot in both 12 and 14 bit modes like many Nikons. More dynamic range allows you to make less trade offs in exposure at shooting time. The more DR you have, the more you can hold detail in both the highlights and the shadows at the same time. The downside is the self-same image will be lower contrast when rendered and you usually have to make those trade offs in post instead. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DxO results for K-5
Zeiss ZK 85mm is what I used. Zeiss uses the utterly nonsensical 1,4/85mm designation officially rather than the correct ratio-type designation of 85/1.4 or just calling it the 85mm f1.4. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:16 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: What search string did you use, I just copied Zeiss ZK 85/1.4 our of your message and plugged it into my Firefox search box. (It's been said that Google is now tayloring search results based on pas searches, but I can't imagine why it would exclude Pentax related results for me). On 11/7/2010 1:09 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Google nets 111,000 hits for Zeiss ZK 85mm. I prefer Bing, they make no pretense of being non-Evil, unlike Google. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I usually don't think of Bing, I know Google is evil, (no matter what they say), but most of the world seems to use them. That BH page doesn't show up on the Google search, but this one does. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Ntt=zeiss+ZF+85+1.4Q=N=0A=endecaSearch On 11/7/2010 12:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Really? Only 11,300 hits on Bing. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/520389-REG/Zeiss_1486_390_85mm_f_1_4_ZK_Planar.html -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Do a google search on that ZK lens and you don't seem to get any hits, already down the memory hole I'm afraid. On 11/7/2010 8:04 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/6/2010 3:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: So how much are image stabilized f/1.4 Nikon lenses going for these days? There is only one such lens in currently produced Pentax line up, Larry - the DA 55/1.4. Not much if you ask me. And everyone who's shooting with FA 50/1.4 or A 50/1.2 are hmmm well, old ..rts... Boris-the-old-..rt The FA50/1.4 is still in the line as well and of course there is the Zeiss ZK 85/1.4 (while supplies last, it's being discontinued), the Samyang 85/1.4 and the upcoming Samyang 35/1.4 -Adam -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.
At low ISO's yes to some extent. It depends on what you photograph. Ralf's work is a DR torture test but even a normal landscape scene can easily exceed 14 stops of DR if sunlit and having any deep shade. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: So, Adam, /in principle/ or /in general/ what you say is that unless one is doing some very special kind of photography such as what Ralf is doing with so much success, the difference between K-5 and K-7 will be (very?) subtle and hard to see. The difference in DR will be less profound due to the specific tuning of the metering of each camera and also, as far as I understand, the ultimate test of print or photograph on computer display will result in much more similar results than it might seem from the mere spec comparison of these cameras. And more so if one is doing relatively simple and relatively mild post processing. Is that so? On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, so a camera with so many bits of RAW can do what then? Discern 2^so many shades, right? Exactly. And the dynamic range is about when it goes to saturation either to pure black and pure white. Pure white and indistinguishable from noise (not pure black). The noise floor determines the actual dynamic range's low end. Ok, so tell me then, the wise people of PDML, is there a way looking at the same picture shot with K-7 and K-5 to tell them apart? Or better yet, how do I /see/ that one camera has wider DR than the other and that more BPS in RAW are more beneficial than less BPS in RAW in real life. And how all that translates to actual print? The bit depth of the RAW files shows up in subtle gradations of colour and in shadow noise. You get more subtle colour/tone resolution and less shadow noise with a higher bit depth ADC than with less (the shadow noise improvement is due to exactly how ADC's work with linear imaging sensors, you lose luminance resolution at low luminance values. Digital delivers superb resolution of bright tones and poor resolution of dark tones). In the real world, shadow noise is the easiest to see, especially on a camera which can shoot in both 12 and 14 bit modes like many Nikons. More dynamic range allows you to make less trade offs in exposure at shooting time. The more DR you have, the more you can hold detail in both the highlights and the shadows at the same time. The downside is the self-same image will be lower contrast when rendered and you usually have to make those trade offs in post instead. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - web editing software for Mac
For text there is only one answer. BBEdit/textWrangler. For WYSIWYMG, I can't suggest anything since I avoid those tools like the plague. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm no longer a PC guy (computer platform OR politically correct). I used to maintain my web site with Namo Web Editor for Windows. I need to get a good web editor for the Mac to basically reconstruct my site from the ground up. I am familiar with both SandVox and Rapidweaver. Do any of you who don't use blogs, Flickr, etc. have any recommendations as to which Mac software might be best for maintaining a photo-based web site? Jeffery Smith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggested Kodachrome Memorial Edition of the PUG.
Sent off my last two rolls last week. Shot with a Maxxum 7, so no PUG eligibility for me. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 2:28 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The last day of manufacture has passed, and the last day to get the stuff processed is fast approaching. Now I'm not suggesting that we have a PUG requiring Kodachrome film, though if you have those images you could, maybe should, post them, but Kodachrome Look images would be nice. I know that Red Shirt Theme from a while back was sort of that, but I just think we should do something to commemorate Kodachrome's passing. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/7 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 11/6/2010 4:32 PM, Thibouille wrote: As for Mpix, I'm sorry but this is laughable seeing the little difference. Or why would Nikon guys pay for D700/D3s 'crappy' little 12Mpix sensor. As for DR, the 7D is bye bye. Oh, D700 is also. Damn. And that 60D is... well almost a toy. K5 sealing is better, fps is almost tie (7fps vs 8 fps), High ISOs are better on K5. Thibs, you cannot mount Nikon lens on Canon body. You cannot mount a Pentax lens on Nikon body, etc. So, if one is shooting Nikon system, the wonders of K-5 are irrelevant. If one is having lots of K-mount lenses, the 7D's video advantages are irrelevant... And so on. I don't think so. It is relevant because people are subject to change system. A lot of people changed system because of sensors specs (two other usual would be lenses and AF performance). We're talking bodies, not systems. Seems you have forgotten few smilies here too. No, I'm just playing Adam's game. He doesn't use any. probably because he's serious. Boris Part serious, part in jest. Some of the things I listed matter in the real world, other's just matter in the marketting. Some only matter in certain situations. But as a practical matter things like a 1/250th flash sync, wireless multigroup flash, fast high-pointcount AF units, video capability and fps do matter when pricing. The K-5 is a superb camera, but it simply doesn't have the specs to list at a comparable price to the 7D. At its actual list price it's quite compelling and for my personal use a far more interesting camera (body IS and high ISO matter to me, I don't care about more than 4fps, video or flash and my only care about AF is decent low-light performance). Note I've been in and out of all of the systems discussed here over the last 5 years. 'Investment' in a system is a big deal when you have $10k plus in glass. When you've got $2k in glass it's quite different, especially when you'll make a large fraction of that back in resale. Vendor lockin to a system is far overblown as a reason to not switch unless you have a lens collection like William Robb's. A basic system that's fully capable (say 2-3 zooms and a fast prime or two) is eminently open to switching. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.
Paul, if you adjust the files for maximum dynamic range, the K-5 will have more dynamic range and less contrast than the K-7. Neither file will be usable in that state. As a practical matter more dynamic range moves the choice about what to blow from exposure to post. -Adam On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I see no real difference in contrast levels between K-5 and K-7 raw files. And how flat or contrasty the final image might be can be controlled completely in conversion. It's not an issue. I shot most of yesterday's images in shade with no flash fill, so they were inherently somewhat flatter than what I might generally produce. However, when the sun stepped in, contrast levels were quite high. For example: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11910635 On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Don't know if the lack of contrast you reference is so significant as to be obvious in casually examining prints, but I have noted, in what relatively few K-5 images I've viewed, contrast has appeared somewhat low and the image, of course, a bit flat.(?) Jack --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca Subject: Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 10:18 AM On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, so a camera with so many bits of RAW can do what then? Discern 2^so many shades, right? Exactly. And the dynamic range is about when it goes to saturation either to pure black and pure white. Pure white and indistinguishable from noise (not pure black). The noise floor determines the actual dynamic range's low end. Ok, so tell me then, the wise people of PDML, is there a way looking at the same picture shot with K-7 and K-5 to tell them apart? Or better yet, how do I /see/ that one camera has wider DR than the other and that more BPS in RAW are more beneficial than less BPS in RAW in real life. And how all that translates to actual print? The bit depth of the RAW files shows up in subtle gradations of colour and in shadow noise. You get more subtle colour/tone resolution and less shadow noise with a higher bit depth ADC than with less (the shadow noise improvement is due to exactly how ADC's work with linear imaging sensors, you lose luminance resolution at low luminance values. Digital delivers superb resolution of bright tones and poor resolution of dark tones). In the real world, shadow noise is the easiest to see, especially on a camera which can shoot in both 12 and 14 bit modes like many Nikons. More dynamic range allows you to make less trade offs in exposure at shooting time. The more DR you have, the more you can hold detail in both the highlights and the shadows at the same time. The downside is the self-same image will be lower contrast when rendered and you usually have to make those trade offs in post instead. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:37 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash system, 2MP, 1/250 sync. -Adam Of course some of that is based on assumption. Paul Only the AF portion is, and unless Pentax has delivered a camera with AF performance which rivals the 1D series (the 7D is noted to outperform the 1DmIII but not the 1DmIV) it's not a particularly weak assumption. The 7D has a much more capable video implementation than any of the Pentax's (it's second to only the Panasonic GH series cameras for video capability) and its flash system is a true multigroup system with RTF-based commanding, a first for Canon and significantly more capable than Pentax's somewhat archaic clone of the Minolta ADI flash system (which was brilliant in 2001 but is now well behind the competition). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:05 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Thibouille wrote: 2010/11/5 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Much better video, faster AF, one extra fps, a much more capable flash system, 2MP, 1/250 sync. -Adam Of course some of that is based on assumption. Paul Can't see where. It's assumptions based on hardware, and it's obviously not the result of testing. Hardware is what determines pricing and Thibouille asked what justified the higher price of the 7D. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:21 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 November 2010 09:05, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's assumptions based on hardware, and it's obviously not the result of testing. I guess we'll just have to watch how many top end cinematographers embrace the K5 like they have the Canons. I doubt any will, and I would guess that the Canon is better. I was merely pointing out that drawing conclusions without comparing any actual results is assumptive. Paul And here your missing the point. I was explaining the differences which justified the price difference between the 7D and the K-5 in response to Thibouille. Those are hardware and implementation differences, not assumptions (aside from AF performance, which is based on extensive experience with a multitude of systems and cameras, including the 7D). As to actual capability, I'd personally take the K-5 any day as I expect it will have significantly superior image quality than the 7D (which is a superb camera hobbled by a mediocre at best sensor and processing chain). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DxO results for K-5
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Miserere wrote: On 5 November 2010 12:29, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: wrong link last one Woops! Let's try again: http://tinyurl.com/2vy7qjv What I find amazing is how the Kx seems to outperform the Kr. And at high ISO even outperforms the K5 in dynamic range. If you lose a stop of dynamic range and a stop of SNR for every stop of ISO, why not just shoot at the base ISO and underexpose? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est One reason I don't put all that much stock in DxO's tests is the variance in performance of cameras with known-identical imaging chains. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: First I should have placed a smilie at the end 'cos my comment was partly tong in cheek (but partly only). Second, you're both right and wrong. As for Video/flash there's I think not even a question the Canon is better. For AF it is too early. Guessing is guessing and should not be found in a sentence stating (unverified) things. Do I expect the AF to be as good as best Canon AF? No, but it may well beat 5DII AF (which isn't the best but is no slouch either). I'd expect the K-5 would beat the 5DmII, which is a poor AF performer by Canon standards (and shares its basic AF unit with the Rebels, not the better bodies), the 7D is another story, like the Nikon D300(s) the 7D's AF performance rivals the true pro bodies. As for Mpix, I'm sorry but this is laughable seeing the little difference. Or why would Nikon guys pay for D700/D3s 'crappy' little 12Mpix sensor. As for DR, the 7D is bye bye. Oh, D700 is also. Damn. And that 60D is... well almost a toy. K5 sealing is better, fps is almost tie (7fps vs 8 fps), High ISOs are better on K5. The 2MP thing was a little tongue in cheek, Canon's 18MP sensor is not terribly good and can't outresolve a 12MP sensor at higher ISO's. If that's no tie (based on known facts) I dunno what it is. Each has good (and crap) pieces. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DxO results for K-5
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 6, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: What I find amazing is how the Kx seems to outperform the Kr. And at high ISO even outperforms the K5 in dynamic range. If you lose a stop of dynamic range and a stop of SNR for every stop of ISO, why not just shoot at the base ISO and underexpose? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est One reason I don't put all that much stock in DxO's tests is the variance in performance of cameras with known-identical imaging chains. Although the Kx and Kr results are very close. I figured it was just normal margin of error for their testing, and it would seem to be a reasonable margin of error. Paul Could certainly be margin of error. The DxO tests are a decent guide to performance but they seem to be taken as direct gospel by altogether too many people and some of the tests are directly opposite to my actual experience (the Nikon D90 was rated by DxO as the top APS-C camera long after its performance in terms of IQ was exceeded by others, including the K-x) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minor question of Englsih
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:44 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Jeffery Smith My only points of reference are Sean Connery and the Fat Bastard. Jeffery On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Scottish, no matter how much the Scots deny it, is an English dialect. Sting certianly didn't grow up speaking Gaelic. Don't forget Mister Beam me up Scotty Scott. Who was born in Vancouver, BC, not Scotland. In fact James Doohan isn't even Scottish by background, his parents were Irish. Doohan did have a gift for accents though and did a fair Scots accent in Star Trek. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
