Re: 28mm

2005-06-25 Thread Daniel Liu
Ahh, you're right! *smacks forehead* I do a lot of street photography 
at night because I don't have time during the day, so it's basically 
street lights. Slowest I can hand-hold with an slr is i'm guessing 1/30 
(it's been awhile since i used a film slr). On my old setup 1/15 and 
f/2.5 at iso400 was the worst i'd allow myself to consider usable 
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/almost-normal/4905962/ , and las vegas is 
brighter than portland!).


I'm leaning a bit towards the sigma, but i've read all sorts of good 
things about the pentax 28mm. but then again that's not all i'd use it 
for, so i guess i'm also looking for some sort of comparison stopped 
down also vs. wide (wide wide) open. doesn't have to be scientific, 
just if it holds up to looking good. thanks!


  --Daniel Liu
  If at first you don't succeed, sky
  diving is definitely not for you.

  http://almost-normal.blogspot.com/

On 24 Jun, 2005, at 22:19, Cesar wrote:


Daniel,

You have to define low-light work to me.  I customarily shoot in 
'concert-like' settings; dark surroundings with spotlights on 
performers...


I do not have either of the lenses you mention.  I do use the FA* 24/2 
simply because it has the largest aperture.  This way I can adjust the 
ISO on the *ist D to keep the shutter, and to a lesser extent the 
aperture, where I want it.


Basically, for me at least since I have had different people say 
low-light and had quite a difference in EV, I need to know what 
shutter speed you will be shooting at different apertures to see if 
the extra stop and a half would be worth it for you.


César
Panama City, Florida



Daniel Liu wrote:


Hi, just want to get some opinions. I'm planning on getting an istds
and a 28mm prime, and I like to do low-light work. Which lens would
you pick, the sigma 28mm 1.8 or the FA pentax 28mm 2.8? I'm used to
shooting at a very crappy-looking iso400 on a canon g3 at f/2, but I
figure i'll be getting a usable iso400-1600 (at last! haha). Is the
extra stop (stop and half?) worth it? They seem to be the same price
around the internet. Thanks.


   --Daniel Liu
   If the llama melts, don't drink it.

   http://almost-normal.blogspot.com/








Re: DL manual is online

2005-06-25 Thread Daniel Liu
Weird, in some ways it's better than the DS. bigger screen, auto iso, 
you can choose cont. AF in any non-preset mode.hope the ds gets a 
firmware update.


  --Daniel Liu
  If at first you don't succeed, sky
  diving is definitely not for you.

  http://almost-normal.blogspot.com/

On 25 Jun, 2005, at 8:47, P. J. Alling wrote:

They supply AA alkaline batteries with the *ist-DL.  Then recommend 
against them.  How cheap can you get...
and cheap is what they're aiming for, they give picture capacity for 
128mb sd cards.


Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


If somebody is curious:
http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/istDL_web.pdf





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28mm

2005-06-24 Thread Daniel Liu

Hi, just want to get some opinions. I'm planning on getting an istds
and a 28mm prime, and I like to do low-light work. Which lens would
you pick, the sigma 28mm 1.8 or the FA pentax 28mm 2.8? I'm used to
shooting at a very crappy-looking iso400 on a canon g3 at f/2, but I
figure i'll be getting a usable iso400-1600 (at last! haha). Is the
extra stop (stop and half?) worth it? They seem to be the same price
around the internet. Thanks.


   --Daniel Liu
   If the llama melts, don't drink it.

   http://almost-normal.blogspot.com/



Re: OT: Kodak marketing BW film w/movie

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Liu
My local drugstore actually carries a lot of stuff (relatively 
speaking), tri-x, t-max, elite chrome, their own brand of 200 speed 
film, but they are the absolutely worst place to get prints. The 
negatives still stay nice and clean though, i gotta wonder what the 
heck goes on over there...

  --Daniel Liu
  Six meals a day keeps the doctor away!
On Thursday, Jul 24, 2003, at 19:00 US/Pacific, Peter Alling wrote:

The local drugstore here even has Tri-X.  (As well as the new C41 
stuff).  Even
the local super markets have the C41 stuff.

At 01:04 PM 7/17/03 -0400, you wrote:
I keep hearing that drugstores stock bw film.  What drugstores do 
you shop
at?  The ones I go to sure as heck don't.

cheers,
frank
Caveman wrote:

 The drugstore in the corner stocks Kodak Tmax 100, 400 and that C-41
 BW.  They also manage to have them processed and printed. 
Obviously not
 a professional's outlet, so it might appear that regular people 
still
 burn some BW film from time to time.

 cheers,
 caveman

--
I don't believe in God, but I do believe in pi - Henri 
Cartier-Bresson
To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where 
everything is designed by
the post office, even the sleaze.
O'Rourke, P.J.





Re: Zooms vs. primes

2003-07-15 Thread Daniel Liu
I use primes only because the fast ones are cheaper. And I get to think 
less when I'm using them. Though I'll be the first to say that changing 
lenses is annoying.

  --Daniel Liu
  Free speech is the right to shout
  'theater' in a crowded fire.
On Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003, at 19:01 US/Pacific, Amita Guha wrote:

Very true. I recently used my 28-70mm to shoot fireworks, and because 
of
the flexibility, my shots came out a lot better than they would have if
I'd been stuck trying to swap primes, with limited time, in the dark.

-Original Message-
From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think it's when you can't step forwards or backwards that
zooms become useful.  There are many situations in which this
can't be easily done.  But if I am free to move around, I'll
take a prime every time.
John Dallman wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mark Roberts) wrote:


For those who haven't checked this week's Sunday Morning
Photographer yet, Mike has a few things to say on the subject of
Zooms vs. Primes:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-07-13.shtml


Thanks; I've not seen his writing before. I think I agree
with him on
this
subject - when I've tried using zooms, there always seems
too much to
fiddle with, and hunting for a zoom ring seems more
complicated than a
step back or forwards.

---
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]









super program screen

2003-07-13 Thread Daniel Liu
Anyone know if the focusing screen in the program plus is the same one 
in the super program?



Re: P30 vs. Super program (Super A)?

2003-06-12 Thread Daniel Liu
So, just curious, how quickly do the pentax flashes fully discharge? 
eg, 200T, 280T, 200SA, 400T, and others?

  --Daniel Liu
  It's no longer a question of staying
  healthy.  It's a question of finding a
  sickness you like.
On Thursday, Jun 12, 2003, at 03:33 US/Pacific, Anthony Farr wrote:

Should be Hensel 3200 and 6000 joule packs

- Original Message -
From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)
For instance my
Metz 60CT-1 has full power duration of 1/400sec, and the big Hensel 
3200
and
600 joule packs I formerly used burned for about 1/100sec at high 
powers
(requiring 1/60sec or longer).

regards,
Anthony Farr





Re: Minty fun ;-)

2003-06-11 Thread Daniel Liu
That's odd, why 2 front lens caps.

  --Daniel Liu
  The future is much like an eraser
  that does not erase because it is not
  yet an eraser.
On Wednesday, Jun 11, 2003, at 21:59 US/Pacific, Peter Alling wrote:

Nice rubber focusing ring on the lens, I wonder if that costs extra.

At 10:05 PM 6/11/03 -0400, you wrote:
Read the description for the lens, then look at the photo:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2934244461category=15240

;-)

cheers,
caveman
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx




Re: *ist in stock

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Liu
Ohhh dear, powerout resets the computer clock all the time, i need to 
get a new battery, but i'm too lazy.

Still though, i personally like silver. Besides, a variety of colors is 
probably more expensive for them to make. Apple had to nix the 
multi-colored imacs partly because of poor sales on orange.

Oh, the days of metal cameras with fake leather are over, aren't they? 
But i'm sure some brave soul will try painting theirs.

  --Daniel Liu
  You know when you're getting old,
  there are certain signs.  I walked
  past a cemetery and two guys ran
  after me with shovels.
On Thursday, Jun 5, 2003, at 04:40 US/Pacific, Mark Roberts wrote:

Daniel Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: *ist in stock
From: Daniel Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:18:20 -0800
What on earth is wrong with silver?
Wed, 31 Dec 1969???
;-)
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Liu
If you ask me, they're probably working on a more advanced version of 
the *ist, something that more resembles the 5n. After all, why wouldn't 
they? Seems like a lot (not all) of the problems you guys have 
described can be solved with a software fix, like the metering with 
older lenses.

  --Daniel Liu
  Six meals a day keeps the doctor away!
On Thursday, Jun 5, 2003, at 07:21 US/Pacific, Anthony Farr wrote:

IMHO the advances in TTL metering are attempts to become as good as 
quality
hand-held meters.  It's also MHO that multi segment metering 
calculates an
xposure that is correct most of the time but not every time, and the
photographer isn't likely to know just what skew the meter's 
interpretive
feature has put on the exposure.  OTOH a hand-held meter used with
experience and skill gets the correct exposure every time, and its 
workings
are completely transparent.  Centre-weighted averaging TTL is almost 
as good
as external metering if you use manual exposure or a memory-lock in 
auto, it
is arguably even better when a very long lens is up front.

TTL metering is for speed of working where that's essential, or 
convenience
whether to avoid the purchase of an external meter or to carry less 
gear.
It's a compromise whose price is ultimate accuracy.

It's unreasonable to expect full backwards compatability from a CHEAP 
camera
like the *ist, which is chock-full of bells and whistles for first 
time 35mm
SLR users or those prepared to accept limitations when using obsolete
lenses.  At least you'd be able to use those lenses.  Good luck fitting
old-mount Canon or Minolta lenses to the current bodies of those 
brands.
Pentax has cameras in its current lineup for old lens owners, and most
likely will have suitable future offerings when the higher level *ists 
(or
the mythic New LX) come out.

regards,
Anthony Farr
- Original Message -
From: Artur Ledóchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)
Buying an external meter only to be able to work with the plain 
K-mount
lenses in the M mode of the *ist makes no sense to me. The camera has 
a
new,
advanced, 16-segment matrix and it's IMHO better to get rid of such 
lenses
and get the KA-mount ones to be able to use it.
One thing I'm sure is that the *ist is not the camera for me - I need 
full
backward compatibility...
Regards
Artur








Re: What about Takumar 1:1.9/85

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Liu
Haha, that is pretty neat. Does anyone know how much one of those 
things costs nowadays? Or where i can get one once i win the lottery?

  --Daniel Liu
  The face of a child can say it all,
  especially the mouth part of the face.
On Thursday, Jun 5, 2003, at 13:36 US/Pacific, Caveman wrote:

Fred wrote:
I do have some comparative 85mm shots (including the Super Takumar
85/1.9) at -
http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/
Even being one of the old f**ts that know those images for quite a 
while, I still can't refrain to LOL each time when I get to view the 
85/2.2 Soft one in the Location of depth of field category ;-)

cheers,
caveman




Re: Cheap 135mm lens?

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Liu
Whoops, sorry, i mean the M 135mm f/3.5. I'm looking to buy something 
that'll take decent pictures while keeping my bank account intact.

On Friday, Jun 6, 2003, at 18:29 US/Pacific, Fred wrote:

Any thoughts on how much a decent (clean glass, some exterior
wear) SMC-M 135mm lens should be worth? I remember reading
somewhere that  they were very good considering the price they go
for nowadays.
It depends upon which 135mm lens you are thinking about (both for
optical worth and for monetary worth)...
Fred




Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

2003-06-04 Thread Daniel Liu
Exactly. Pentax cameras do what i want without fuss, and without much 
of a hit to the wallet. Well, i take that back, maybe the old russian 
rangefinders can do the same thing for about $20, and they do have the 
cool CCCP label on them

On Tuesday, Jun 3, 2003, at 14:47 US/Pacific, Caveman wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pentax has never *consistently* made PJ-type 35mm bodies.
See if I care.

Now seriously. Why would I.

cheers,
amateur caveman



Re: Pentax bashing (was Re: another 31 Limited question)

2003-06-03 Thread Daniel Liu
I think something we forget too often is how fun taking pictures can 
be. Not necessarily getting the shot and have the satisfication of 
seeing it perfect, but rather the work involved getting it. I 
remember using a canon AF slr (rebel somethingorother) once: it was 
point, shoot, and pray. It's very satisfying to have to set up all the 
exposure, focus, and all that, i think. And pentax had at one point 
(mid 80s?) gotten that all right. And to some extent still do.

  --Daniel Liu
  Oh Lordy, that's dry. Sucks the
  tissues right out of your mouth.
On Monday, Jun 2, 2003, at 06:53 US/Pacific, Bruce Dayton wrote:

I used to have very mixed feelings about Pentax (much like Caveman)
when I was pursuing 35mm.  I was trying to get the best quality I
could in lenses and bodies but my pictures didn't show that much
difference.  Once I crossed over to medium format (thanks to some much
needed encouragement and information from some PDML'ers) the whole
Pentax world changed for me.  My local camera shop carries Pentax MF
along with all their Nikon stuff.  The quality of manual focus lenses
was high like in the old K mount days.  My picture quality has gone up
tremendously.  I don't get condescending looks  from Canon/Nikon
shooters when I pull out that big 67II.  The lens line is extensive
for medium format.  I no longer have this driving urge to need what
Nikon and Canon 35mm offer.  I have found that I am actually enjoying
my 35mm shooting more now than I was before moving to Medium Format. I
used to shoot PZ-1p's and then MZ-S's in my quest.  Now I am shooting
an MX and SuperProgram.  Yes there is an occasional image that is
harder to capture that the high tech cameras would aid with.  But my
contentment with what I have and am doing has increased dramatically.
Bruce





Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Daniel Liu
Thanks everyone, I think I'll wait and get the 1.4. It's not so much of 
a focusing issue for me, it's being able to get a decent shot off in a 
dark room without a tripod, so the 2.8 is out. Candid shots, remember? 
In the meantime, I'll stick with my f/2.

  --Daniel Liu
  The toothbrush is an indispensable
  part of enjoying life. I brush my teeth
  every day. I have a wonderful time. I
  like my toothbrush. I was wont to get
  up early.




Re: Incident meter suggestions wanted

2003-05-27 Thread Daniel Liu
I don't know too much about light meters, but i do know that the 
sekonic meters that don't use batteries use a solar powered selinium 
cell to measure light, which are fine outdoors, but are something of a 
problem in low light. I have an old sekonic AL-86 (not an incident 
meter, btw) that uses a selinium cell and only meters down to 6 EV with 
asa100 film, when most modern cameras meter all the way down to 0 ev. 
So, my suggestion would be to get something with a battery.

  --Daniel Liu
  When a tree falls in the woods on a
  mime, is there a sound?
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 12:33 US/Pacific, zcaballero wrote:

Hello,

Many say that the Sekonic is a good choice.  Thank you for your
suggestion as well.
I use different meters for different purposes - spot meter, in camera
meter, my personal internal meter, so incident meter will be good
addition for some subjects and situations.
Z
==
I have newer and more low-light sensitve meters but it sounds like the
simple and accurate Sekonic L-398 might be an option for you.
...
obviously isn't for everyone but for many of us, knowing how much
light is falling on a scene is the most valuable information for a
starting point on proper exposure.




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Re: Lens choices?

2003-05-27 Thread Daniel Liu
About two weeks ago I saw an mf smcp-18mm f/3.5 packaged with a super 
program, 50mm and 28mm lenses all for about US$230, but i don't think 
you'll have much luck finding one. It was a great deal, but i don't 
have that kind of cash.

  --Daniel Liu
  If the llama melts, don't drink it.
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 14:07 US/Pacific, Paul Eriksson wrote:

The last couple of weeks I've been contemplating my lens purchase/use 
philosophy.  Right now I'm in a financial position to purchase 
cameras/lenses, this will change about 12 months from now.  Right or 
wrong I want to equip myself with the cameras/lenses I'll be 
wanting/needing for the next couple of years, maybe even five years.  
This is why I'm planning to get the ist D to complement my ZX-L.  Now 
to the hard part, what lenses do I want/need?  I do basically all 
kinds of photography except for wild life.  Right now I feel that I 
have it pretty well covered with 24, 35, 50, 100 macro  70-210mm.  
The way I see it my first priority should be a 24-90 or a 200 prime?  
Also the is the focal length extension of the ist D to think about, in 
which case I'd want a 16 with regular filter threads, does anyone make 
one of these for k-mount?  The closest that I've found is the MF 
Tokina 17 3.5.  Ok, after all this rambling comes the real question.  
That focal lengths do you use, how much (%) and for what kind of 
photography?

Thanks for your patience
Paul
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