Re: FA 300 2.8 ebay fraud alert
It had been taken down. Just in time too. I almost bid on it ;) Derek -- Original message -- From: Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Item number: 9509475197 I think this is ebay fraud in action. This ad appeared two days ago and I emailed the lister. The ad was pulled down and the ojarrin them changed their user name to something else. Now it appears again as another user. I reported it to ebay and to the lister. I think the guy wants someone to send him $700 offlist for the lens which I doubt he has. It is only a 24 hour listing. Everything is the same as the previous ad http://cgi.ebay.com/PENTAX-smc-P-FA-300mm-F2-8-ED-IF-Telephoto-Lens-NEW_W0QQitem Z9509475197QQcategoryZ78076QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Re: Sigma 70-200/2.8 compared to Bigma?
I have the Sigma 70-200/2.8 APO EX (not DG) and it works great on film and digital. It is not only bright when you look through the viewfinder and easy to manually focus, its smallest aperture is F32, which I love for landscape shots. I have not used the 50-500, but if you send it to me yours, I can try it out and give you a much more detailed comparison. Good luck. Derek -- Original message -- From: ing. David Lacina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'd like to buy a bit lighter lenses and am thinking about the Sigma 70-200/2.8 APO EX DG. I owned the Bigma 50-500/4-6.3 and would like to ask someone for a comparison, are the images from the lighter lenses significantly better than those from bigma in the 70-200 range, besides that it has 2.8 aperture? Is there any other light tele lenses you would recommend? Thanks, David. -- ing. david lacina | http://photo.lacina.net | +47 90 85 82 01
Re: Bag Question
Thanks Aaron for your suggestion. The laptop is about 15 diagonally across, so the Kipling does sound like it would work. I'll definitely take a look at it. Thanks again, Derek -- Original message -- From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it a reasonable expectation to find a bag that will meet my needs? Are their any other bags that I missed? Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. How big is the laptop? I have a nice bag that doesn't look much like a camera bag from Kipling -- it has a slot in the front that comfortably fits my white iBook (but not my old blueberry iBook, the toilet seat lookin' kind), and an expandable main compartment with velcro dividers that has three long slots, each deep enough to hold an SLR with a 300 f4 or even something a little longer. It came with flippy dividers to split each deep pocket in two, so you can put two shorter lenses in each, one on top of the other with a divider in between. The pocket in the flap is big enough for a couple of hardcover books. You'd have no trouble fitting everything you've listed into it, and more. -Aaron
Re: Bag Question
Godfrey, Thank you for both of your replies. As usual, they will help a lot. Thanks again, Derek -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a Timbuk2 Commute XL that does this duty for me. It's not the most convenient camera bag, but it is an excellent carryall for when I need to carry computer or a couple of portfolios, plus camera, lenses and the usual pile of other junk. They also make a slightly smaller model, the Commute. I took the larger one ... it will fit up to a laptop with a 17 screen ... so that I'd have the extra room just in case, and I'm glad I did. The bottom and back are padded, I usually use a couple of Domke wraps inside when carrying camera equipment to keep things from banging around. The key to why this bag is so good is their excellent shoulder strap. It instantly adjusts from wear it across your back with no strain for walking to wear it slung at your front/side so you can get things in and out quickly. That plus good compartments, pockets and padding for your back make the bag a winner. See it at http://www.timbuk2.com ... I've used mine almost to the exclusion of all my other camera bags for the past three months. It's my walking office. Godfrey On Mar 27, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Derek wrote: I am looking for a messenger/briefcase type bag. My enablement for this particular purchase is that I am going on a business trip overseas and want to take a body to shoot some pictures over the weekend. Specifically, I want a bag to carry 1 body (D w/ grip for this trip, but maybe an LX w/ motor on another occasion), 1 or 2 lens (28-80 and/or 80-200), maybe a flash (280 or 360), an employer issued laptop, a couple of books, and some other work related papers and files. These are the bags I have been looking at: Tamrac 469 - Photo Messenger 9 Tamrac 5618 Turbo CyberPro Photo/Computer Briefcase. Tenba PM-17C Messenger Is it a reasonable expectation to find a bag that will meet my needs? Are their any other bags that I missed? Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your PDML expertise. Derek
Re: Bailing out.
At programming shop where I work, the technical consultants that were brought in started using the term workflow to describe the software customizations we do from initial request to deployment in production, and it stuck. Then we implement Oracle, and they have their Workflow development product/tool. And, of course, we have a document imaging product that accounting department purchased called Workflow that we end up supporting as well. So when somebody mentions workflow, nobody knows what they are talking about. Needless to say, I was thrilled to death to find that digital photography uses the term Workflow. Makes my ears cringe. Derek -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although I agree with your concept, I never once in my 20+ years of being around software development efforts heard the word workflow in connection with programming. There the term used was logic. Workflow describes a higher level process sequence than the logic of a computer program, in my opinion. I started hearing the word in recent years in connection with user interface design and the study of human factors engineering, not programming. I think the following sentence characterizes the difference: Computer programs follow logic, the causal sequence of their instructions, while humans exploit workflow, the conceptual steps of the endeavor to achieve a goal. Logic operates at the start, do this, do this, test: if this then do that, end level. Workflow operates at the transfer RAW files from camera storage to computer storage, convert files to DNG format, open files with Bridge and assign metadata template or remove film from camera and place in processing tank, complete development process, dry film and view on light table level. Godfrey On Mar 28, 2006, at 1:53 PM, graywolf wrote: Workflow is a term from programming. To write a program you have to figure out the steps and their order involved in completing a process. That is what workflow is. In fact any process that involves more than a single step has a workflow. You can not even make a cup of coffee without following a workflow. For instance you have a real problem if you try to drink the cup of coffee before putting it in the cup. However the term is mostly used by computer folk (and those terrible people, efficency experts) thus I can understand your not wanting to deal with it, Frank.
Bag Question
I am looking for a messenger/briefcase type bag. My enablement for this particular purchase is that I am going on a business trip overseas and want to take a body to shoot some pictures over the weekend. Specifically, I want a bag to carry 1 body (D w/ grip for this trip, but maybe an LX w/ motor on another occasion), 1 or 2 lens (28-80 and/or 80-200), maybe a flash (280 or 360), an employer issued laptop, a couple of books, and some other work related papers and files. These are the bags I have been looking at: Tamrac 469 - Photo Messenger 9 Tamrac 5618 Turbo CyberPro Photo/Computer Briefcase. Tenba PM-17C Messenger Is it a reasonable expectation to find a bag that will meet my needs? Are their any other bags that I missed? Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your PDML expertise. Derek
Re: OT Film
I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT Film
I like using Velvia 50 (and the Ilford PAN 50) for long time exposures with a polarizer and a graduated filter or two. I think that Velvia 50 is more saturated and has finer grain than even the new 100. YMMV. Derek -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using ISO 50 film can make it easier when deliberately wanting long exposures, as in blurred water shots, eliminating the need for an ND filter. Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Film Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:38:40 -0500 Saturation. 100F is much lower saturation than 50. Velvia 100 (not F) is fairly close to 50, but a fair number of people don't like it as much. -Adam Aaron Reynolds wrote: While I sympathize with people who've had their favorite films discontinued, I have to wonder what Velvia 50 has to offer that Velvia 100F does not. If anything, the 100F has a finer grain than the 50, and is close if not identical in almost every way, except it renders skin tones better. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:44 am Size: 718 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT Film
I'm not suggesting that I am looking for the finest grain. When did Velvia 100 non-F launch? I was running my lab until May and at that point we had heard nothing about it -- was it late summer? I have to wonder what the point is of such a film -- they didn't keep dual inventory of Provia 100 F and non-F nor Astia 100 F and non-F. I think I was handed a bunch of sample rolls of the new Velvia 100 (ie not 100F) in either July or August last year. It was ok, but not the same as the Velvia 50. The saturation was not there, especially when shooting sunsets and the dusk sky. Derek
Re: OT Film
Preach it Brother Tom!!! Derek -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pure heresy... that's what it is! Oh the agony of it all :-) Velvia was never meant to be a general purpose film for all subject types. It does work well with many nature subjects, landscapes, when there's good light. I still contend the results are more real looking in those contexts than the drab washed out Kodachrome look which brings truthfulness to the expression the picture just doesn't do it justice. Provia's all around a good film. I'd still rather shoot sunsets.sunrises with Velvia. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Film Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:57:04 -0800 (PST) Me too, Godfrey. IMO, the only possible reason to shoot Velvia is it's professed greater resolution and the fact that I have PS saturation and hue sliders. Provia and Astia much preferred. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Derek wrote: I'm not suggesting that I am looking for the finest grain. When did Velvia 100 non-F launch? I was running my lab until May and at that point we had heard nothing about it -- was it late summer? I have to wonder what the point is of such a film -- they didn't keep dual inventory of Provia 100 F and non-F nor Astia 100 F and non-F. I think I was handed a bunch of sample rolls of the new Velvia 100 (ie not 100F) in either July or August last year. It was ok, but not the same as the Velvia 50. The saturation was not there, especially when shooting sunsets and the dusk sky. Derek For me, personally, the hyper-saturated Velvia look is something I have never liked. It makes the world look like it's all cartoon colors. Godfrey __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Sigma Lens - Was which camera to buy?
Speaking of Sigma lenses, has anyone owned and used the Sigma 24-70/2.8 or the 70-200/2.8? Thanks, Derek -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I owned one Sigma lens, the 17-35. It was one of their high-end models with all those extra letters in its name. It was a turd. I sold it and replaced it with the DA 16-45. No comparison. I went from shit to sugar. I have the Sigma EX300/2.8 APO. Great build quality and optics. I'm sure the Pentax equivalent is better but it's also $1500 more expensive (the Sigma cost me about $2200). Anyone who comes to GFM is welcome to try out the Sigma.
Re: which camera to buy?
Did we ever resolve which camera to buy? D, DS, DS2? New or used? Or just wait for the 10mp? I am already budgeting to purchase the 10mp in the fall, but was hoping to buy a DSLR to hold me over until then (and use as a backup after purchasing the 10mp). I see KEH has several D in the $800's. Is that a good price? Any thoughts? Thanks, Derek
Re: PDMLers in San Diego
Hopefully we will be able to have a PDML gather in San Diego in the not too distant future, and hopefully have more people show up than just the two of us. Derek -- Original message -- From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:34:21 -0800 sdstory wrote: Well the way things have been going down there in SD i think that everbody's confessed by now SGS Ghm.. are you referring to the city council and Cheetah scandals? Or did I miss something else? By the way, is sd in sdstory somehow related to San Diego? ;-) .. or is it secure digital? ;-) Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:27:54 -0800 Derek wrote: I grew up in San Diego, but moved to LA about 6 years ago. I still make it down about once a month, and more frequently than that during Padres season. Derek Hi Derek, I saw that you are in LA, but didn't know you used to live in SD. I've been in SD for about 4.5 years by now. I am not a baseball or football fan, otherwise I could've bumped into you at a game. Well, not literally.. :-) Igor
Re: PDMLers in San Diego?
Igor, I grew up in San Diego, but moved to LA about 6 years ago. I still make it down about once a month, and more frequently than that during Padres season. Derek -- Original message -- From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All! I asked this question here about 4 years ago, and at that point nobody confessed. :-) Seeing a recent PESO on San Diego, I decided to ask again, just in case somebody moved to San Diego or joing the list recently: Is there anybody on this list who lives in San Diego (or vicinity)? (Don't worry, no immediate need, just curiosity.) Thank you, Igor
Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Dave, Apparently your accident was not a fluke. I heard there was another accident with the Orange Line buses, the second in its first week of operation. I guess now they are going to slow the buses down to 10 mph when crossing intersections. Derek
Re: Pentax Prayer... was Nikon D200, 18-200 lens and flash system
I laughed so hard I almost died and went to Asahi/Pentax heaven. Thanks, I really needed that! Derek If you are offended by references to God, please do not read any further. If you think that God should not be mentioned in a post that is being sent to a mail server in the United States of America because of 'The Separation Clause' and/or because you fear the mere mention of the word 'god' will cause you or others to become converts, and/or because it will otherwise make you feel uncomfortably accountable, and/or will lead to the U.S. becoming a nation governed by religious zealots, please do not read any further. . . . . . . . . . . . . Dear Pentax Father who art in Japan, the only true God, Let your name continue and not be profaned. Let it continue even if it has to be in some hyphenated form such as Pentax-Samsung. Let thy corporate entity flourish and continue to produce digital SLR cameras. Let thy will to keep the same market share or even surrender some to the competition be done in the USA as it's done earth-wide (who cares what they think?). Give us this day (or sometime in the near future) our megapixels (hopefully 12mp or more), and our big buffers to take more than 5 or 6 rapid fire shots, and our faster AF, and our simultaneous dual format RAW/.jpg ability, and our larger LCD screen, and our HyperProgram mode, and our complete lens compatibility with all previously existing K-mount lenses. Forgive us for looking envfully and coveting the DSLR's being produced by your competitors just as we forgive those who actually go and purchase them. Lead us not into temptation by not producing a comparable product, but deliver us from evil by shortly giving us, your faithful servants and acolytes, an answer to our prayers. For yours is the corporation, and the product, and the marketing power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen Tom C. (all in fun) From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems that all prayers of Nikon users came true: Now let's hope that Pentax listens to its loyal users' prayers and at least we will have fully K compatible body with most of above improvements built-in soon...
Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Oustanding job! I'm a Westsider who doesn't get to the valley much, so this is the first I've seen of the Orange Line. Where are the pictures of your wife smiling with the firemen? (My wife wants to know). Derek P.S. You had a 90 min delay? Sounds like LA mass transit at work! Thanks. I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really stick my nose in it. I was afraid that eventually they would ask me to stop if I got too aggressive. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have worried. They were all too busy with their big scene to bother me. As I look the shots over I quickly see they're nowhere near my best work. I guess I myself was a little flustered, plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' want to be too obvious. The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would assume I was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the accident victims, and escort me out from within the police taped boundry. Tom C wrote: Just viewed them all. Excellent job. I love the irony :-( of the Fresh Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots. Tom C. From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident. Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800 The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a local reporter via his wife's cell phone. His wife then put me on the phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid. No problem. Tom C wrote: Still waiting for the photos to come in. Great job! Gigantic kudos for having your camera with you. My camera is always with me, if not just outside in the car. Looking forward to seeing them as they download. Work Pentax in there somehow. Tom C. From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident. Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800 Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October. It is a rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all the time. This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, traffic stops on those surface roads. I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was going to be. My wife came with me. We had been on the bus for less than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that ran its red light. The car broadsided the bus. The car was seriously damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was later upgraded to stable). We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to determine who (if anyone) was injured. Mostly any injuries were just people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. Despicable really. Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. Fortunately I had my camera. Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load. I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us is married to a reporter. Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting any of the pictures I took. ...I had to remove the ones where my wife was posing, smiling next to the firefighters. It seemed a little inappropriate after the fact. ;) Dave
Re: PDML Map
This is really cool! Thanks Juan for setting it up. Derek Hi list, I found Frappr, a site that uses Google maps to let people place themselves in the world. It is organized in groups, so people from various internet communities can map where they are. I started a PDML map there. Go to http://www.frappr.com/pdml And map yourself, if you care to do so. No need (or possibility) to add an exact address, so privacy should not be a problem. Let's see where we all are! j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: Photo Net must read
Robb, Now that was funny!!! Thank you for the entertainment. It really broke up the afternoon. I think the best was: 'You can usually get a refund from the manufacturer in these cases, but you do have to sign a waiver/declaration in order to get the refund which says I the undersigned am too dumb to own a camera. From now on I will only use Crayolas ' Thanks again! Derek Seriously funny, though I doubt serious http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=006Ivu William Robb
Re: A* 200 f2.8 ED versus A* 300 f4
Buy both lenses and FedEx them to me. I will extensively test both lenses and send you back the better lens. Really. Derek I'm considering the A* 200 f2.8 ED and the A* 300 f4 for use on my istDS. I really like the fact that both are relatively small in size. I plan to use it for wildlife and sports photography. Any opinions on these 2 lenses. Thanks guys
Re: Photo Net must read
That's funny. And he actually went back to his dealer to return it. Don't you wish you could have been there? I wish I was the dealer, so I could have them sign a waiver/declaration in order to get the refund which says I, the undersigned, am too dumb to own a camera. From now on I will only use Crayolas. Derek William Robb wrote: Seriously funny, though I doubt serious http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=006Ivu William Robb That's funny. And he actually went back to his dealer to return it. Don't you wish you could have been there? D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Sent My Brother to the Dark Side
With a dedicated user base like you guys, who needs a marketing department? (Or in Pentax's case, what good would it do?). Derek of Doom I must confess too. A friend is going to Vanuatu for his wedding anniversary and wanted a new DSLR. He only had an optio digicam, and no lenses. I _wanted_ to recommend the DS, but really could justify it except for the $500 difference with the Canon 350D/18-55mm kit. The only other two reasons I had were the Limited lenses, which he is not likely to buy, and the viewfinder. He tried both cameras and couldn't see much difference in the brightness or size. The 350D landed yesterday, and he is chuffed, to say the least. D Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well I did it. My youngest brother (15 years younger) was the recipient of an 8MP Canon Rebel XT this weekend. It came with the cheapo 18-55 zoom they sell in the kit. He really likes photography and was not in a position to afford this at the time, so being his oldest brother, I treated him to it, along with a 1G CF and extra battery. This is a prime example of Pentax missing the boat. I would have gladly purchsed him an *ist D derivative if I felt secure in the 'Pentax future'. Having not released a better camera than the 'D' in almost two years, I used the mindset of What if I was buying a new DSLR for the first time?. Needless to say he was happy. Tom C.
Re: OT- Chicago's Baseball Team
I saw the White Sox play in San Diego in June, and I thought at the time that the Sox were by far the best team in all of baseball. Nothing that has happened since then has convinced me otherwise (although it was a bit mean of the Sox to taunt Cleveland by letting the Indians almost catch them in the standings). Enjoy your World Series, Paul, Chicago has an exceptional baseball team this year. Derek My White Sox are up two games to zip in the world series. I'm looking forward to Collin congratulating Chicago's best baseball team when they win the series. That would be the team without the goat curse g. My apologies to all those who have no idea what all that means. Paul
Re: Pentax DSLR future
There was a series of 3 mockups on design that people could vote for on a japanese camera show last spring. Anyone still have the link? Jostein Here is the site with the 645D pictures: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2005/03/18/1209.html Derek
Re: Pentax DSLR future
Godfrey wrote, in part: I see no reason for the constant hand-wringing about what Pentax might or might not deliver in the future. It's just one of the things we do here. :-) Tom C. In fact, it is by far the most entertaining thing we do here! Derek
Re: WTB: 67 stuff
It even still had its shutter dial extension ring which I promptly lost on top of a mountain - six months later I returned and found it still on the ground, right where I'd dropped it. That is amazing. I have never found anything I lost on top of a mountain (and I've lost plenty). Derek
Re: Sony Nikon Konica Minolta Zeiss news
Pentax is doomed!!! Run for your lives. Sell me all your prized Pentax equipment at fire sale prices. Derek of Doom In this interview with the head of Sony in Spain he touches on all of these topics. I find it interesting that Sony was considering buying Nikon. Even more interesting that they are talking to Zeiss about making lenses for their forthcoming DSLR cameras. I was told weeks ago by an insider that Sony was determined to make the Lexus of DSLRs, and adding Zeiss glass would be one way to do that. http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/Sony-SLR-R1-N1,1_en_2084 Bob
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
Tom, You have a one track mind. Derek If it was Pentax and we got a FF IS body I might be interested. Tom C. From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax/Samsung: update? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:02:33 -0400 just to make life more interesting, in a recent press conference, the president of Konica Minolta said that in order to have a viable digital camera division, KM's digital imaging division might have to merge with a current competitor. when pressed, he refused to say whether or not KM had been talking to anyone. posturing or real? it would be interesting to know who he had in mind. Herb - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Pentax/Samsung: update? Their first joint effort will be a camera, based on a current Pentax model, that incorporates some Samsung technology and which will be launched next spring. A jointly developed camera would not come until next autumn, Pentax said.
DL gets mention
I don't know if anyone saw this, but PC Magazine list the DL as one of the four Big Cameras for Beginners. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1869354,00.asp Hopefully it will attract some new Pentaxians! Derek
Re: something strange going on with supply of used Pentax lenses
I don't think its a coincidence. Fixed focal length auto focus lens have been on KEH Most Wanted list for about a year. Derek Hi! KEH sends buyers out all over the country, picking up inventory from camera stores, distributors, camera fairs and shows, and the like in bulk quantities. It's most likely a new batch of lenses has come in, been graded and put up for sale. Do you really think a company like KEH is going to rely solely on customers sending in camera gear for its stock? Of course I wouldn't think company like KEH relies on private customers only for filling their stock. I meant that indeed this can be a mere coincidence, nothing more. Boris
Re: Pentax TimeLine
Thanks Michel for answering your own question. This is really interesting. Derek Michel Carrère-Gée a écrit : There are two or three years, a member of PDML published two documents which I preserved: Pentax 35mm lens timeline http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/temp/PentaxLensTimeLine.pdf and Pentax SLR timeline http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/temp/PentaxSlrTimeLine.pdf I don't find the author nor the address Web; who remembers ? Michel
Re: Norcal PDML meet - SF
Youre meeting at Union Square!!! I am so jealous. Union Square is one of my favorite places to visit in San Francisco, and always try to stay at the St. Francis, which is on the square, when I visit San Francisco. Im sure that everyone who goes will enjoy it. Derek On 10/4/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meet at 10am at Union Square - Outdoor cafe (JUAN - Where exactly is it?) http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.787988,-122.406889spn=0.003947,0.006951t=hh l=en http://tinyurl.com/adh6w The satellite image from Google maps is from when the square was being remodeled, but the cafe is precisely in the center of this map. It is the only such place in the square, and the square is a fairly open space, so it will be obvious. If you park at the Sutter-Stockton garage, you'll have to walk just barely over one block to get there. Have some tips and ideas about shooting this venue presented by Shel, Godfrey and Juan. Har! I just walk around the people and press the shutter... :) BTW, for those coming: If someone has a 20mm lens (whichever it is) and want to bring it, I'd love to play with it on my istD for a little while. Want to see if there's any 20mm other than the M20/4 that feels small and nice to use... The only somewhat rare lenses I have that I could bring are the K24/3.5, K30/2.8 and the Industar 50/3.5 (looks great on the istD.) And Shel, I will bring Rolling Red's FA40/2.8 pancake too if you want to check it out. Cheers, j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
RE: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
Nice summary Tom. Derek And here I think is a key item in this discussion I'd like to bring to peoples attention. I'm not picking on Jens here, I promise. He wrote: I am in fact a very proud owner of a *istD and a MZ-S. The thing is, I'm a proud owner of Pentax equipment as well. No one here is attacking anyone's purchasing decision. Keep on enjoying your Pentax equipment. If someone's self-esteem has been injured so that they must defend Pentax no matter what, well I'm sorry. The discussion seems to go: Statement: I'm worried about Pentax and their future viability in the market place. The response seems to be: I like my Pentax camera, how dare you say anything negative about Pentax. We're not even talking about the same thing. Tom C. Whenever I have some money to spend - I go for some nice glass. F. 2.8 or better, regardless of the focal length. Right now I'm testing a Sigma 2.8/70-200mm AP0. I'm considering a used FA 2.8/80-200mm in stead. At first the MZ-D was predicted to have a price tag of 10.000 USD. I would probably never get it anyway. The people who judge, buy or order my photographs never ask what camera brand I use. Only the photographs are of any interst. Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 1. oktober 2005 23:11 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax... That pretty well sums it up for me. Good post, John. Paul On Oct 1, 2005, at 4:05 PM, John Forbes wrote: Tom, The continual negativism on this forum doesn't make it a better place, and it certainly doesn't HELP Pentax. What is does is to distort people's assessment of Pentax's true position. You wouldn't think so from some of the posts, but Pentax is a profitable company. It clearly went through a hard time when it was forced to abandon the MZ-D, and I personally think it has bounced back from that rather well. A company with less financial muscle, and less commitment to photography, would have given up then. The fact that it didn't speaks volumes. As the more level-headed members of this site point out, the current DSLR range (the D, incidentally, is still available) meets the needs of most people, even most PDML members. Yes, it would be nice to have extra bells and whistles, but most of us don't actually need them, and many of us wouldn't pay very much for them. That's not to deny that there are some photographers whose needs are clearly not well served by the present line-up. However, they are a small minority, and with luck (and a little time), the D replacement will address their problems. It is noteworthy that there are now very few list members left who have not bought a Pentax DSLR. Clearly, there must be something good about them. In my view the Pentax DSLRs provide a much better picture-taking experience than any 35mm film camera, and I expect my two D bodies to be active for some time to come, whatever the future of Pentax. That means I will continue to buy lenses. John On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:20:45 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In answer to your last question, yes I've perceived that to be the case sometimes, but not with the Chongwagon comment. However, it's not all whining and negativism. Some of it's an ongoing analysis and, yes, speculation regarding the future of the brand, and therefore the wisdom of future potential 'investments'. I single-handedly, and others who tend to share the same views, will not make those views come true. Pentax, having marketed and produced in the manner they have, are responsible for their image, ranking in the marketplace. Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax... Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:38:16 +0100 Which is a pretty big market if you think about it, in MF terms. Why don't you post a lot more negative messages about Pentax? That way you'll make your worst fears come true. It seems to me that in life we need a certain amount of optimism. People who get things done are optimists; people who whinge and bellyache are not nice to know and tend not to amount to much. Have you noticed that the most prolific posters of pictures on this site, and the best photographers, do not as a rule jump on the Chongwagon. They just get on with life and take pictures. John On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:33:47 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. I can't see the market for a 645D being too much more than owners of a film Pentax 645 system. Tom C. From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply
Fuji Velvia 50 discontinued?
I use Fuji Velvia ISO 50 for my landscape photography. However, I have heard that Fuji is discontinuing Velvia 50. Hence, I have the following questions: 1. Is it true that Fuji is discontinuing Velvia 50? 2. Does anyone else use Velvia 50? 3. Does anyone have a suggested replacement film? I was considering using Agfa RSX II ISO 50 or pulling Velvia 100 once my Velvia 50 freezer stock runs out and I am unable to purchase anymore. I have had some success with Agfa before, but the Velvia seemed at least marginally better. On the other hand, I have heard that pulling Velvia 100 causes some color distortions. Any thoughts? Thank you in advance for your suggestions and comments. Derek
Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
Not to start another flame war, but I thought these were good posts on Dpreview: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=15223744 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=15224522 I know we have gone over this before and many of you might have already seen these particular posts, but I thought they are really good summaries of where Pentax is at. Derek
Re: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
I took the liberty of posting the site in DPReview. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=15202381 If I am in error in any way, please do not let me know. I would rather live in ignorance. Derek Notices on both the Pentax forum and the digital camera forum at PhotoNet might also help. Paul Have you tried posting a notice on the Pentax SLR Forum at DPReview? Dave On 9/27/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 199 hits on the web page and 42 submissions so far. Come on folks, Let's keep it going and spread the word! http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Thanks! Don
RE: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey
Don, Thank you for the complement. I am just happy I could help out. I really appreciate the work you put in to this. Derek Thanks you Derek! VERY well done. I just signed up at DPREVIEW and was going to do this tonite. You worded it better than I could have. ;-) Thanks Again! Don -Original Message- From: Derek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:36 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net; pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Daily Update-Pentax Petition and Petition Survey I took the liberty of posting the site in DPReview. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=15202381 If I am in error in any way, please do not let me know. I would rather live in ignorance. Derek Notices on both the Pentax forum and the digital camera forum at PhotoNet might also help. Paul Have you tried posting a notice on the Pentax SLR Forum at DPReview? Dave On 9/27/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 199 hits on the web page and 42 submissions so far. Come on folks, Let's keep it going and spread the word! http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Thanks! Don
Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?
Here is my list: FF sensor. Full support for K/M series lenses. Low base ISO, like maybe 25 or 50 (Maybe interchangeable sensors to get the right base ISO). Interchangeable viewfinders (One with a popup flash would be ok for those who want it). Interchangeable focus screens (with a decent selection of screens). 5 fps, with bracketing, up to 15-20 frames (Maybe make the buffer memory upgradeable). Both CF and SD memory slots. Weather sealed body No Picture modes. Selectable TTL or P-TTL (thanks for the idea Godfrey) Its not much, but I think that would be sufficient for me. Derek Howdy gang! After spending about four lifetimes following the recent spew about non-A lens support, I started to think about what I would really WANT in a digital camera. (This has nothing to do with the possible petition to Pentax.) Just for kicks (and a bit of flame-free fun) I'd like to know what you would WANT if you could have your DSLR your way. Throw caution to the wind. Don't even consider what is feasible or marketable. Just let us know what your dream digital camera looks like. Here's mine: I wanna be able to select ISO and shutter speed with knobs. It should support an available line of manual focus lenses. K-mount (un-crippled) is good. Screw mount or M-mount would be cool, too. I don't need auto focus, auto aperture, or auto anything. Monochrome sensor. Something in the 4 to 6 MP range is good. Metal chassis. Metal body. RAW and JPEG. PC sync. No built-in flash. Less than $1500 US. Things I don't need, but could live with: Hot shoe. Picture modes. Features I would like, but could live without: In-camera DNG support. That's about it. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Petition to Pentax? (was Re: How Pentax Could Survive)
Once again, sign me up! Derek Special interest groups who wish to get someone's attention will sometimes buy an ad in a prestigious publication. A full-page ad in Japan's most prestigious photo magazine would probably get the attention of Pentax. I would guess it would cost about $5000, although it might be quite a bit more. But if it were only 5K, 100 people could pull it off for $50 each. Tough to organize, but probably quite effective. Paul Not sure why Iowa would impress them, though. Please elucidate. Is it an acronym, or is Iowa famous in some obscure (to me) way? And apologies to Iowans. I'm sure it's a great state, but I've not been there so I don't know. I lived 17 years in Iowa (grew up there). Not bad, but I don't think I'll be moving back anytime soon... :) Nope, them thar Iowainians can keep it... :) I doubt a petition would do any good, but somewhere around here I've got a list of the issues I sent them my own self. I'll try to dig it up if there's a movement to organize one. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: Petition to Pentax? (was Re: How Pentax Could Survive)
Sign me up! The wish list so far is 1. Full support on high-end bodies for K/M lenses. 2. Image stabilisation. 3. Improved AF. 4. A faster and larger buffer. 5. A free copy of Capture One LE bundled with the camera. Anything else? Derek Allowing JCO to go first with Full support on high-end bodies for K/M lenses, and Herb second with (I guess) Image stabilisation, better AF, and a faster buffer, I nominate A free copy of Capture One LE bundled with the camera. Not sure why Iowa would impress them, though. Please elucidate. Is it an acronym, or is Iowa famous in some obscure (to me) way? And apologies to Iowans. I'm sure it's a great state, but I've not been there so I don't know. John On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:00:26 +0100, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that is a sane and sensible idea. Perhaps we can start such a petition and submit it to Pentax. Imagine how impressed Pentax Corp would be to receive an envelope from IOWA filled with suggestions from loyal Pentax users from all over the world. I wonder what, if any, impact such a list would have, assuming it was presented in a reasonable and organized manner. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Helpful would be a petition to Pentax, a want list so to speak. I don't see them organising that. As it is they're just bitchin', and I'm ignorin'. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 19/09/2005
Re: Proposition and a Vote_ WAS_Petition to Pentax?
Yea. Derek OK, this has recieved more attention than I expected. Here's the proposition: I, Don the Iowanian ;-) will volunteer to keep track of this if there are enough people interested, AND if they will promise to participate in a reasonable and organised fashion. I will set up an e-mail address for this subject to keep it seperate from, and independent of, PDML traffic. I will establish a web page to report results as far as the Wish List, voting results, and number/name of participants. I will take all suggestions from list members as to the planning and execution of this project. I will tally all responses and votes with no regard to my Personal Wish List except my own 1 list entry and my 1 vote per issue. This will, I expect, be a fairly complex job before it is finished so I will welcome volunteers and WILL NOT consider the project without a good level of interest from PDMLers. This is to include their family, friends, associates and anyone else you can convince to participate. All contributers will be required to provide enough personal information to make this a credible message to Pentax. Personal information WILL NOT be shared by me to anyone EXCEPT Pentax or their representitives and WILL NOT be used by me for any personal reasons. OK Folks, how vote you, Yea or Nay Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:00 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Petition to Pentax? (was Re: How Pentax Could Survive) Now that is a sane and sensible idea. Perhaps we can start such a petition and submit it to Pentax. Imagine how impressed Pentax Corp would be to receive an envelope from IOWA filled with suggestions from loyal Pentax users from all over the world. I wonder what, if any, impact such a list would have, assuming it was presented in a reasonable and organized manner. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Helpful would be a petition to Pentax, a want list so to speak. I don't see them organising that. As it is they're just bitchin', and I'm ignorin'.
RE: For the Collector who needs one of everything.
Actually, Gastroenterologist, ENT (ear noise throat) doctors, and dentists use Endoscope orally. Derek Mark Roberts wrote: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax. If it's not #1, it's certainly right up there... I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like that... Yes. Enough of the wisecracks.
Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.
Cool! Can I get one of those for my office? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) wrote: Actually, Gastroenterologist, ENT (ear noise throat) doctors, and dentists use Endoscope orally. How well I know: The ruler lying on my desk (which my dear SO got free at some medical conference or the other) is decorated with photos of the inside of someone's esophagus in various stages of disease/health. Quite the conversation piece. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: First non DSLR digicam with 10MP APS sensor- contradiction
Can I please get a diagram of this? Derek Its very simple. If the working diameter of the rear element and the diagonal size (format) of the sensor remain constant, then the further the rear element is from the sensor the NARROWER the corner to corner angle cone angle becomes eminating from the rear element and the deviation from pendicular in the corner of the sensor becomes smaller (better) as the lens is moved away. Do not confuse this angle with the angle of view, they don't have to match and will vary depending on optical design... JCO -Original Message- From: keith_w [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:18 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: First non DSLR digicam with 10MP APS sensor- contradiction J. C. O'Connell wrote: Isnt is a contradiction that the lens is CLOSER to the sensor and its an improvement because that means the light it hitting the corners of the sensor at a GREATER angle away from perpendicular which is BAD (perpendicular being ideal)? I don't understand. The light cone exiting a lens assembly will have a certain value, in degrees, total or half-angle, as you say, from the perpendicular. Move the lens along it's axis toward or further away from the sensor, to exactly cover the corners, it always has the same angle. The only thing that changes is area of coverage. Not the angle of the exiting light bundle. If you insist what you say is true, I have misunderstood you. Please elaborate. keith whaley J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -- --
To match Gold LX
I don't know if anyone else noticed these, but I think that they would match the gold LX that was on ebay a couple of months back. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7542513239rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Gold Vivtar Pentax KA lens. Go figure. Derek
RE: Pentax winder me II - who had used?
I have had my ME-II winder for about 20 years on my ME Super, and ergonomically, I don't think any camera fits better in my hand. The winder makes the ME Super easy and comfortable to hold. The only downside is that while the ME Super is probably the quietest Pentax camera (at least in terms of shutter) ever made, the ME-II winder will wake the dead. However, even with the winder attached and turned on, if you need stealth, just pressing the shutter release on the ME Super body (as the body shutter release stays on manual even if winder is on). The switches for the winder are up by the trigger button, so it is easy to turn on and off. I still use the ME Super just because if fits so well in my hand with the winder. I have not had any problems with the ME-II winder and would highly recommend it. Derek The ME-II winder works very well with The ME Super and almost all other M bodies designed for a winder. Also work well with the Super A/Program. It gives a good feel and grip to the camera. It is however quite loud, sounds just like you'd expect an older winder to sound. The nice thing though is that you can turn it off and use the camera manually, just using the winder for a grip and to add some weight to the camera. I still own 2 of these but don't use them much anymore, when I need auto- wind I grab the ZX-5n or one of the PZ bodies. Don -Original Message- From: tomecz na o2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 7:12 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Pentax winder me II - who had used? Hallo, i can buy at reasonable price pentax winder me II, but I do not have possibility to check how me super cooperate with it. I mean does the system lay in hand well, how about quietness when it works, ergonomics. Have somebode used it and use it still or rather do you usually detach winder. thanks
Next Pentax DSLR
When is the next Pentax DSLR going to be announced? I was under the impression, perhaps mistakenly, that Pentax was going to come out with higher end DSLR, a D upgrade if you will. Dont manufactures announce in or before September their new products that they want to push for Christmas? My plan is to wait for the upgrade DSLR, buy the upgrade DSLR, then look for a cheap D on ebay for a backup body (hoping that people will be selling their D to finance the next DSLR). Derek
Re: Next Pentax DSLR
Thanks for pointing out the DS2, Adam, although it is a bit disappointing. Derek Derek wrote: When is the next Pentax DSLR going to be announced? I was under the impression, perhaps mistakenly, that Pentax was going to come out with higher end DSLR, a D upgrade if you will. Dont manufactures announce in or before September their new products that they want to push for Christmas? My plan is to wait for the upgrade DSLR, buy the upgrade DSLR, then look for a cheap D on ebay for a backup body (hoping that people will be selling their D to finance the next DSLR). Derek The last new DSLR was announced last week (*ist DS2). I'd hope for one in January/February. -Adam
Re: Double Exposures using ZX-50
Lucas, Thanks for the advice! Derek On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:27:46 +0200, Village Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have a ZX-50 and I have two issues. First, I need to know how to keep the film from rewinding completely into the canister since I will have to load it at a later time. Hi, The rewinding on an MZ-50 stops if you open the back. You probably noticed that the rewind-motor changes pitch near the end of the rewinding process. I believe this is at the moment the film leaves the uptake spool. If you open the back just then, it might work. However, note that I have not done this myself: I could be wrong! I just got myself a film puller for circumstances like these. Hama has one, part number is 8025. It works very well, once you get the hang of it. Second, I need to know how I should re-align the film when reloading it the second time. The instructions for the class recommend disabling the autoloader. Is there a way to do that? Disabling autoloading is not possible, I think. The few times I tried double exposures I simply tried to lay in the film the same way twice, by eye. Results were not very accurate, and seem to vary a bit along the rol, if I recall correctly. That would mean film advance is a bit variable as well. If you do this with an MZ-50, I recommend you ask the lab not to cut your negatives: there might not be enough black space left between frames for them to reliably determine where to cut. I found out the hard way that labs never miss an opportunity to cut a negative in half :-( Hope this helps, -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Double Exposures using ZX-50
Thanks for your help Derek You could mark the sprocket hole that you want to start on the spindle on the left side of the camera. You won't get anything like perfect registration however. Unfortunately there is no easy way to keep the ZX/MZ series of cameras from rewinding the leader into the canister. That is except for the MZ-S. Village Idiot wrote: I'm going to be taking a photography class where we will be doing double exposures. Specifically we are going to be shooting all of our rolls of film the first night, and then re-expose the film on subsequent nights. I have a ZX-50 and I have two issues. First, I need to know how to keep the film from rewinding completely into the canister since I will have to load it at a later time. Second, I need to know how I should re-align the film when reloading it the second time. The instructions for the class recommend disabling the autoloader. Is there a way to do that? Thanks everyone for your help. Derek -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
MZ50 that is not winding on correctly.
I have a MZ50 that is not winding on correctly. Intermittently successive frames will overlap. Its not the batteries causing the problem as I have replaced then. It can occur anywhere in the film and at present probably occurs in about 1 out of every 5 films, but seems to be getting worse. I would be grateful for advice on the cause of the problem and a solution. Many thanks Derek Leest - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
