RE: Peleng 8mm circular fisheye now in K mount?
Probably T-mount or something. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Peleng 8mm circular fisheye now in K mount? A listing on German Ebay claims to have a Peleng 8/3.5 circular fisheye lens in K mount: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1320219348 Is this possible? That would be quite a development. No mention whether it's autoaperture. I've written to an English-speaking Russian who sells the M42 version everyday for $199 shipped (http://www.geocities.com/belshop/index.html), asking him what he knows about this. I'll report his reply. There remains my unanswered question about how someone else can be selling Sigma 8/3.5 PKAs on EBay for under $200. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Anyone shoot MF exclusively?
There is also an adapter to use the Pentacon Six mount lenses on the Pentax 645. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Evan Hanson Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone shoot MF exclusively? If budget is a big concern one of the great things about the Mamiya 645 system is that with a cheap adapter they can take Pentacon Six mount lenses. These are widely available and are very cheap. An Arsat 80mm 2.8 lens can be had new for around $50. Combine that with a $200 m645 or m645j body and you have a decent system. Evan From: "Delano Mireles" > Collin and all who responded, > > Thanks for the opinions! Artur, sorry for the lack of clarity on my part. > I meant Medium Format when using the abbreviation "MF". > > I agree that I should probably keep the 35mm (if for no other reason to stay > a part of this wonderful group :-) but really invest in MF from now on if I > go ahead with this purchase. I've got my lenses (28, 50, 135, 28-80, > 80-200, 70-300) and a decent flash so that should "hold" me for a while. > > I'm looking at going with a Mamiya - - either 645 or RB 67 (used of course) > or Bronica ETRSi. Hassy is just too expensive after the initial purchase. > > I'm also looking at the Alien Bee flash that was reviewed in this month's > Shutterbug as well as Photoflex's Starlite system. Anyone ever use either? > > > Thanks again, > > Delano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS: Sigma 1.4x AF teleconverter
If he doesn't I have one available also. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FS: Sigma 1.4x AF teleconverter I know you've prob got tons of requests, is it still available ? --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Offering to the list before it goes on eBay. > This is the standard Sigma 1.4x teleconverter (not > the EX series). It's > in EX+ condition with front and rear lens caps. It's > autofocus but of course > will work with manual focus cameras & lenses as > well. > > $35.00 + shipping ($2.00 for shipping in the U.S. > should cover it) > > > -- > Mark Roberts > www.robertstech.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar 70-210 f3.5
Considered a very good lens. 2 main versions one with a 67mm filter and one that uses 62mm. Very close in performance. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Henry Knowles Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vivitar 70-210 f3.5 I've seen a Vivitar 70-210 (or possibly 70-200) f3.5. Whilst not a constant f2.8, f3.5 seems quite reasonable. At a price of 35 GBP (55-60 USD I guess), is this a worthwhile purchase? Also, does anyone know what the Pentax T6-2X is like in comparison with the A 2X-S? Cheers, Henry -- Henry Knowles, Electrical & Electronic Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Extra-solar Planet Imaged Optically
They are called brown dwarves because they have insufficient mass to trigger fusion in the core. They emit energy due to gravitational contraction and compression of the core. As soon as this runs out they go dark. It is a very low frequency form of energy output. Jupiter does some of this also because it emits slightly more energy than it would if it was all from solar reflection. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peifer, William [OCDUS] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:41 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 'aimcompute' Subject: RE: Extra-solar Planet Imaged Optically Tom C. wrote: > Thought some may enjoy this. Apparently a ground based telescope > has optically resolved a brown dwarf orbiting another star. http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/01/07/brown.dwarf/index.html Hi Tom, Yeah, that's pretty cool. If I did my arithmetic correctly, that's an apparent separation of about one fourth of one milliarcsecond. Even with monster, multi-meter-class ground-based telescopes, resolution at visible wavelengths -- without adaptive optics -- is limited to about one half of an ~arcsecond~ (i.e., 500 milliarcseconds, or about 2000 times less resolution than these fellows obtained) because of atmospheric turbulence. Adaptive optics are pretty amazing. Telescopes like the Keck can obtain theoretical resolutions on the order of 10 milliarcseconds in the visible, and even better in the infrared. (Sounds like these fellows were going a step further and doing infrared interferometry, which would boost resolution even further.) I just wish these "science journalists" would learn the difference between brown dwarfs and planets. Methinks they're giving the impression to the general public that all these "planets" are just like Earth, which of course is not the case at all. Not sure where the dividing line is between carbon stars and brown dwarfs -- IIRC, carbon stars use heavy atoms to fuel nuclear fusion reactions, but I don't know if brown dwarfs can do this. They emit in the infrared, but I'm not sure what powers this process. Heavy-element fusion?? If you want to see something really neat, look at the January 2001 (last year's) issue of Sky & Telescope. I was just looking at this back issue last night. There's a brief note in the front about some amateurs using a small scope (14" Schmidt-Cass, I think), a CCD, and some photometric software to get a light curve for some star with a known short-period extrasolar planet. From our vantage point here on Earth, this planet transits across the face of its star every few days, causing a very small (0.02 magnitude) drop in the star's apparent intensity. They measured the intensity of the star during one of these planet transits, and sure enough, they could actually observe the intensity variation as the planet blocked some of the star's light from our view. Pretty good for off-the-shelf amateur equipment! All this is giving me an itch to point one of my Pentaxen skyward, but I'm afraid all I'll get this week will be clouds. Aarrrgh!! At least they're 18% gray :-) Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: "Bargain" at KEH
KEH's BGN can be another dealers VG. Just means that something on it might not be pretty. But the optics are always pristine in the ones I've gotten from them. I bought a BGN K 200/2.5 from them several years ago. The retractable hood had some obvious dings in it but the glass was flawless. I just considered myself lucky to get one for $335 and used it for several years for concert shooting with the LX I had at the time. Also had them drop ship a BGN Sigma 21-35/3.5-4 to my hotel room in FLA once when I realized I needed a wide angle lens. Even though I was shooting with a ZX-5n at the time I figured that AF in the short focal lengths was something I could do without. all because I was getting their catalogs and I found these were on special because they had several. Never could figure out why they considered it BGN. Still have this one. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Timothy Sherburne Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:21 PM To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: "Bargain" at KEH Hello all... What are your experiences buying equipment marked as "bargain" at KEH? How about "ugly"? t - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: CZJ Sonnar 300/4: three varieties? switchable mount?
I wouldn't exactly call the East German CZJ as world class. While a good value it is not as good as the West German Zeiss or Schneider lenses. Much better than Pentacon's own Meyer Gorlitz 300/4 lens though. The lens is designed for medium format so with the M42 adapter on it its light path is slightly compromised in the smaller format. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul F. Stregevsky Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 11:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CZJ Sonnar 300/4: three varieties? switchable mount? I suppose I should put the SMC 300/4 on my short list; I actually received it last year but returned it to the UK because I had ordered the 300/M. Now I want to consider only lenses with a tripod collar, which would exclude the SMC 300/4, I believe, but would include its M42 precursor, the Tak 300/4. But if I'm gonna give up K mount autoaperture, it had better be for a world-class lens. The CZJ auto-Sonnar 300.4 is world class. The Tak? I dunno; I fear I'd always think, "I should have held out for a 300/4.5F." Come to think of it, with the cost of larger filters and hoods, maybe I should just get a 1.4XL-A teleconverter and use it with my 400/5.6 PKA and 200/2.5 SMC. How much brightness does a 1.4 TC cost you: half a stop? Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: CZJ Sonnar 300/4: three varieties? switchable mount?
I'm almost sure the 95mm is the filter ring on the removable hood not the lens barrel. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul F. Stregevsky Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CZJ Sonnar 300/4: three varieties? switchable mount? I've been thinking about getting a Carl Zeiss Jena 300/4 Sonnar in M42 mount. I've seen its filter size described as 77mm, 86mm, and 95mm: The 77mm version focuses to 3 m, weighs 1,950 g, and has 5 elements in 3 groups. It was made from the 1960s through 1980s; multicoating began in the mid 1970s. The 86mm version is the Carl Zeiss Jena Auto S Auto MC Electric (or something like that). It focuses to 4 m, weighs 1,650 g, and has 6 elements in 5 groups. It is praised on Nathan Dayton's site, http://www.commiecameras.com, on this page: http://www.commiecameras.com/ddr/p6/lenses/index.htm The 95mm version is a Carl Zeiss Jena that I know nothing about. I just know that it's mentioned as 95mm on one of the four current EBay listings: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1316507457 (Pentacon 6 mount) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315207641 (Praktica bayonet mount--however you spell it) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315956584 (Pentacon 6 mount; mentions the 95mm filter) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315956584 (Exakta mount) Should I consider only the 86mm version--definitely autoaperture, so modern? Can it definitely be fitted with (or found with) an M42 mount? And what can anyone tell me about the 95mm version? Then there is the issue of the mounts. I know that if I want it to be M42, it must be a Praktica mount. But weren't those old mounts replaceable? Wrote one user: "Most of these [old CZJs] have a coarse screw-thread into which the actual camera adaptor screws, a remnant of its design as a lens for use on the old Contax RF Flektoskop and Flektometer reflex housings. A lens like this can be readily adapted by the fabrication of a new adaptor." The last thing I want is to buy a Pentacon to M42 adaptor, then try to fit onto it an M42-to-K adaptor. But can't I essentially unscrew the Pentacon or Exacta mount and screw in a CZJ M42 mount (maybe $60?), giving me essentially a "made-for-M42" lens? Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!)
The faster the optical system (or F-stop) the more pronounced the coma can be. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:40 PM To: Ed Mathews Subject: Re: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!) Ed, It's certainly very visible. This is an area where the FA*85 beats the 77 in my opinion. It produces nice, round highlights. I have thought long and hard about getting the 77 and seeing this makes me want to just keep and use my FA*85 (already paid for). I would be curious to know if this is consistent from sample to sample or is there some variance. Any other 77 owners noticed the highlights to be like Ed's sample here? Bruce Dayton Saturday, January 05, 2002, 2:26:12 PM, you wrote: EM> Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. A week EM> or so ago there was some limited discussion about the Nikon 105, EM> it's bokeh, and the 77 bokeh. I mentioned that the 77 yields nice EM> bokeh, with some football (American football) shaped highlights. Nobody EM> commented about that, and probably nobody understood what I meant. So I EM> thought I'd take a picture of my Christmas tree lights out of focus to EM> show you. EM> This is background bokeh, with the brightest lights about 7 feet away, EM> and the lens focused to about 3 feet. In this shot, the lens is at EM> F2.8. In other shots I took at smaller apertures, the highlights of EM> course get smaller, and the football shapes start to get more round. EM> It appears to me that the shape becomes more oblong closer to the edge, EM> and that they kind of look like they circle around the center axis. EM> Tell me what you think. EM> http://lightandsilver.com/Temp/77.htm EM> Thanks, EM> Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!)
That's called spherical aberration or coma I think. Unless the aperture diaphragm is not circular at whatever F-stop you chose. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Mathews Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!) Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. A week or so ago there was some limited discussion about the Nikon 105, it's bokeh, and the 77 bokeh. I mentioned that the 77 yields nice bokeh, with some football (American football) shaped highlights. Nobody commented about that, and probably nobody understood what I meant. So I thought I'd take a picture of my Christmas tree lights out of focus to show you. This is background bokeh, with the brightest lights about 7 feet away, and the lens focused to about 3 feet. In this shot, the lens is at F2.8. In other shots I took at smaller apertures, the highlights of course get smaller, and the football shapes start to get more round. It appears to me that the shape becomes more oblong closer to the edge, and that they kind of look like they circle around the center axis. Tell me what you think. http://lightandsilver.com/Temp/77.htm Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
I have a 2nd gen. Tamron 28-200 in mint condition I'll sell him for $200 plus shipping that includes the Tamron close-up lens and a filter or a Tamron 28-105 in the same condition for $125. I don't use my Pentax AF gear anymore and I'd like to give them good homes before I decide to stick them on eBay. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses We've had a Tamron 28-300 for two years. Works perfectly, never a problem and produces very nice results. Probably just the luck of the draw. He doesn't go out and take pictures of electrical storms does he? :-) I have a Pentax 28-80 AF, like brand new, that I'm trying to sell for $45. I've never critiqued it as it was only used for about two rolls of film before buying the longer zoom. It's a lens. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses > A friend of mine, heeding advice from this list, purchased a ZX-7 a > little more than a year ago, and grabbed a Tamron zoom (28~200 maybe - > don't recall right now) to use primarily for family snaps and a trip > that he and his wife took last year. > > The lens is toast. It doesn't work and he's been told that the > "electronics" are fried, and that it'll cost $220.00 to repair. Now, > frankly, I don't give a rat's ass why the lens failed, or whether or not > it can be repaired, or if the price is reasonable, or even if the lens > doesn't have electronics. It just frosts me that the enjoyment of his > recent trip to Mexico was lessened by the lens breaking in some > fashion. He, and his wife, are very disappointed. Sheesh! all he > wanted was a simple lens for a simple camera. > > Yeah, I know that things break, but the truth is, a lens should last > longer than a year, and not cost a week's pay to repair. > > Good. Now that that's off my chest, what's a good replacement lens? > Build quality is important, optical quality commensurate with family > snaps and occasional 8x10, color print use. Cole's like me - he likes > to keep things a long time. You should see his old Spotmatic and Super > Tak 50/1.4 - sharp, clean, and working perfectly. > > So, what does the list suggest for a quality consumer lens? > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Abandoning the K-mount (WAS: Aperture Ring On MZ-S)
Both Minolta and Canon eliminated the aperture ring when they went to AF. I think Nikon has recently eliminated it from some newer lenses. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pål Audun Jensen Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Abandoning the K-mount (WAS: Aperture Ring On MZ-S) Lon wrote: >One thing Pentax might be telling us with the MZ-S is that >they have no intention of abandoning the K-mount. As I understand >it, Minolta or Canon or both have abandoned the aperature ring in >their newest mounts. There is no reason for Pentax abandoning their mount. Minolta, and particularly Canon, was forced to do so due to a very small bayonet diametre with no or few possibilities for electrical contacts and drive shafts etc. Removing the aperture ring from the lens is a way to save money. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Any recommendations for Fuji MS 100/1000 film?
Yeah that's why I'm hoarding the rest of the brick of Astia 120 I have in th4e fridge. Guess I'll do the same for the 2 35mm rolls of MS 100/1000 I have also. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Brigham Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Any recommendations for Fuji MS 100/1000 film? 'My lab' was Fuji UK. I sent them £2 extra for pushing it to 600, and they sent me a credit note back saying payment was unneccesary! I didnt realise Astia had gone too! I have a couple of rolls which I bought 6 months ago and havent tried yet. I read it was good for portraits. I had better test it soon, and stock up if I like it! They had better not touch provia, or reala! This would really upset me!! > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: Re: OT: Any recommendations for Fuji MS 100/1000 film? > > Rob B: You're lucky that your lab wasn't charging you for push > processing on MS 100/1000. 'Round here, everyone charges. > > Personally, I'm more broken up about the loss of Astia. I > shot my last > ten rolls of Astia 120 in North Carolina over Christmas. > I'll certainly > miss that film. > > -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Looking to buy a Pentax ZX-5n
No I still got it. I was going to put it on eBay next week. Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc Schlotthauer Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Looking to buy a Pentax ZX-5n Hey Kent - Did you ever sell that ZX-5n you had for sale? Marc - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Any recommendations for Fuji MS 100/1000 film?
I understand that Fuji has now stopped production of this film by the way. However it will be available from current stocks for awhile. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Any recommendations for Fuji MS 100/1000 film? Hi, Sid Barras wrote: > I'm wondering what some experienced > hands on this list might have to say about the benefits of this film, where it might be at its best, > its actual pushability (aside from what Fuji claims) and where I might not want to use it. This is rapidly becoming my E6 film of choice. Acceptably sharp, _very_ flexible and nice colours - not one of the modern eyeburners which seem to be so popular at present. Just the usual reservations about E6 archivability. It's "real" speed is about 600ASA, apparently, and I never use it past 800. You will have to make your own experiments in that direction, I think. The whole roll has to be axposed at the same speed, of course. Found out the hard way that exposure @100 and development @800 produces a very nice high key effect. Just a pity that the subjects weren't suitable. Seasonal greetings to all, mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Can you believe this?
It's a macaw not a parrot. Big difference. :^) Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you believe this? Nice looking parrot! stan > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:00:00 -0500 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Can you believe this? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315937391 > > Bill, KG4LOV > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: choosing M42 body - finder brightness
Well since you have some CZJ lenses how about a Yashica 35 Electro-X? Decent metering, plus a genuine MLU lever that you can switch on and off at will? I got one as part of a telephoto/telescope purchase. I already had 2 KX bodies with MLU I was using for astro cameras. So I kept this one to use also. However it's a pain to have to switch the T-mount to M42 if I want to use all my camera preloaded. I would judge the camera in either Mint- or EX+ condition. Comes with a Yashinon 5xmm/1.9 lens (can't remember if it is a 50 or 55 lens). Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: choosing M42 body - finder brightness Hi, I ask the help of fellow screwy lovers (ehm), am in need of some screwy body... I am interested in finding an M42 body for some of my screwmount CZJ lenses**1), which I love to use but don't because I dislike fiddling with adapters from K to 42. What I *need* is bright, high-magnification viewfinder with *bright* focusing screen! At *least* as bright as my Pentax K2DMD, preferably BETTER!**2) What is the best M42 camera based on that criterion? I will ask about other criteria later on. (considering either Spotmatic, Asahi SV, another pre-spotmatic body, or a 3rd party M42 body like from Cosina or Vivitar) Basic needs for the body: purely mechanical, no batteries (except meter if applicable), meter _not needed_, standard M42 autoaperture plate, DOF preview, rapid-return mirror, 1/1000 speed or higher is minimum, reliability, if ttl meter than it _needs_ to be able to meter easily with all M42 lenses **3). MLU would be a nice boon, either switchable or via selftimer. Quitness is a plus of course, it should be less noisy than a K2DMD _at minimum_. Ability to accept motordrive would be a nice boon too. **1: (the lenses are 1.8/80 and 2.8/20, Carl Zeiss Jena MC both, just in case there is some incompatibility with a body, although I doubt it - after all CZ/Pentacon invented the M42 mount in the first place, although it gets "credited" as 'Pentax screwmount' nowadays- Phew!) **2: (compared to e.g. N. FM2n, the K2DMD's screen is almost full one stop dimmer, as tested with FM2N + 1.8/50 vs. K2 + 1.4/50, the FM2n was slightly better, even with almost 1 full stop dimmer lens), but still the K2 is way better than M42 Prakticas wrt screen. And the FM2n has almost about same magnification as the K2DMD finder, not like the AF cameras sporting low-low magnification but bright finders, which still are impossible to focus through manually **3: that means the Praktica MTLx series or normal Spotmatic mode - there is a switch separate from shutter release which 1st: stop down the lens to selected aperture 2nd: activates the meter. NOT like on the Zenit, where the switch is built-in into shutter release - that makes releasing the shutter cumbersome and slow, just plain stupid. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek P.S.: Kelvin, I will surely ask this on Club M42, but haven't subscribed yet (too low on free time :( ). Could you please FW my post there? Thank you a lot! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Forwarded from the Olympus list
Yeah we discussed this on the Minolta list when it came out. Everybody hoped this means they are moving to devote more resources to the digital 35mm effort but who knows. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Owens Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Forwarded from the Olympus list > Just saw this on dpreview.com Interesting. from Dec. 26th > > "Minolta yesterday announced that it will halt production and development of > APS cameras in favour of attacking the ever expanding digital camera market. > This comes as no surprise to dpreview as we have observed the dramatic shift > in market share (and production) between 35 mm, APS and digital over the > last two years. "Investors welcomed the news, sending shares in Minolta up > 8.39 percent to 155 yen on Wednesday morning. The Nikkei average dipped 0.1 > percent." > Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: [Fwd: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1316793311]
If I'm not mistaken I think the rear filter mount resided under this part and that is why it comes off. It's not really designed as an interchangeable mount as Pentax only offered an upgrade to the K-mount for the earlier screwmount lens owners. You couldn't buy the screwmount adapter separately. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1316793311] This seems to match some other posts. I keep telling myself "I don't need it and don't have the money right now." But I've wanted one of these since I was a kid. Joe Original Message Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1316793311 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:03:02 -0500 From: Donna McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Joe, I'll see if I can make this a little more clear. If you look at the second picture, which shows the back end of the tube, work your way up from the protective cap until you come to a knurled ring. It has two screws on either side of it. This is where the mounting adapter separates from the tube. The adapter has a four-eared bayonette type mount that fits into the knurled ring. This ring is then turned like a breech mount to secure the adapter tightly to the tube (the adapter mounts very similar to a Canon FD mount lens). Pentax designed this lens in this manner and provided adapters for either screw mount or k mount. Hope this helps. Best regards, Donna On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 09:38:01 -0700 Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank you, Donna. This is a little confusing. I thought this should > be a > k-mount lens. Would it be a lot of trouble to take and send me a > photo > of the camera end, close up? > > Joe > > Donna McArthur wrote: > > > > Hi Joe, > > No, this lens is not a screw mount by design. The end tube has > threads, > > which accept adapters which can be either screw mount or k mount, > or > > others. The end of the threaded tube, is approx. 2 1/2" in > diameter. We > > just happen to have the k mount adapter for this unit. It is > truly an > > impressive piece of equipment. > > Thanks for your interest, > > Donna > > > > On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 15:01:23 PST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Hi. Can I clarify that this is a screw-mount lens with a > k-mount > > > adapter? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > Question from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Title of item: PENTAX SMC 1000mm F8 TELEPHOTO LENS > > > AWESOME!! > > > Seller: stardust06242 > > > Starts: Dec-31-01 14:41:11 PST > > > Ends:Jan-07-02 14:41:11 PST > > > Price: Currently $455.00 > > > To view the item, go to: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1316793311 > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading > Community > > > at http://www.ebay.com > > > > > > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR INTERNET ACCESS! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR INTERNET ACCESS! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: lens value: a workable definition (dollar per photograph)?
You should consider the formula based not on photos taken but by the number of good photos taken. If a cheaper lens gives you less useable shots that needs to taken into account. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lens value: a workable definition (dollar per photograph)? On 2 Jan 2002 at 8:11, Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: > By conventional thinking, a lens that is 80 percent as good as another at > 50 percent of the price is a better value. I propose an alternative > definition of value: cost per photograph taken. By this definition, the > cheapest lens nearly always must win. Paul, Your equation doesn't work for me. Some of us are just prepared to sacrifice a bit more and buy the best available in order to provide the optimum potential (in the given format). I never want to be wishing I'd shot "that" shot with a better lens. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentacon 400/4?
Although the Enna is suppose to be decent I'd more than likely take the Pentax if it is the manual focus K, M, or A model. I'm always on the lookout for big fast screwmount lenses to add to my collection. One day I'd like to pick up one of the Kilar 600/5.6 lenses. All the ones I've seen lately were modified for C-mount motion picture work. I'll think about those lenses you mention in Pentax mount. I live in Frederick, MD by the way. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentacon 400/4? Kent, You're right. The lens in question, on German EBay, is a 300/4: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315106059 Since I'm also thinking of getting a moderately fast 300, I appreciate the tip to pass on the Pentacon. By the way, there's a coated PK-mount Enna 400/4.5 (yes, K mount), mint, for sale on the Web for something like $450. Since it seems you want one badly. I didn't want anyone to beat you to it, so write to me for the URL. Igor of Igorcameras.com has several Enna 400/4.5s, in Exacta and Topcon mounts, for $395 (http://www.igorcamera.com/Exacta%20&%20Topcon.htm). I also know of a Piesker 400/4.5 or two for sale; one in M42, the other I think in K mount. Write to me for those URLs, too. Any that you're not interested in, I'll share them with the list PS: If you had to choose between the Enna 400/4.5K at $450 and the Pentax 400/5.6 PKA at $500, which would you choose? Paul Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kent Giddings wrote: Are you sure it is 400/4 and not 400/4.5? Most Pentacon lenses were made by only a couple of makers and I can't find any listing for a 400/4. There were 2 400/4.5 lenses that I know of. One by Piesker and one by Enna. I got outbid on one of the former a short time ago and the Enna is very rare. Pentacon only had 2 telephotos with their own name inscribed on them, and both were built by Meyer Gorlitz (because part of Pentacon later) and were the same as the M-G Orestegor lenses. One was a 300/4 and the other a 500/5.6. Neither is as good as the Aus Jena 300/4 Sonnar and the 500/5.6 is not considered as good as the current Ukrainian 500/5.6 MC APO-Arsat. Most of these were available in 35mm mounts also. Kent Gittings mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: lens value: a workable definition (dollar per photograph)?
Some stores around here rent Tamron 300/2.8 lenses so you can try them out
even on Pentax cameras. But mostly they rent Nikon gear.
Kent Gittings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tonghang Zhou
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lens value: a workable definition (dollar per photograph)?
I suppose this is where certain other brands have an advantage.
In photo stores, you can rent those lenses (and cameras) for a day
or a week, lenses you'd otherwise never use due to their high
prices.
But no Pentex for rent.
I recently visited a store, not only did they not have any Pentax to
rent, they didn't even have a used pentax to sell. Only new stuff,
and just the zooms. But they had lots of certain other brands' used
lenses, both for rent and for sale.
Regards,
___
Tonghang Zhou ("Zhou" is pronounced like Joe)
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Paul F. Stregevsky wrote:
> But I'll probably use a 400mm lens for maybe 15 shots a year. At that
rate,
> the cost per photo will be astronomical at any price, and perhaps I should
> settle for a $200 specimen. Or a teleconverter, which would spare me the
> need to buy yet another protective filter and carry yet another big lens.
>
> It seems unfair that frequency of use must dictate the quality that it is
> prudent to buy, but I can't escape the math.
>
> It would certainly seem that a well-built lens is an extravagance for
> someone who will probably not see rugged use. So a lens that has a
> reputation for being optically excellent but mechanically mediocre would
be
> a good candidate for the infrequent user.
>
> Comments?
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RE: [Fwd: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1316793311]
I know that these type of lenses, especially the 500/4.5, were very easy to convert to another mount. That's why if you stumble on a 500/4.5 in Nikon mount you can bet that it was probably an Associated Press lens from the time when they switched to Nikon. Although they probably did some for others at the time (some NYC company did the switch). Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1316793311] Kent, That has to be it. It must be that all of the longer lenses have that design? In my original post I was referencing the auction page but the bottom photo never loaded. So, I looked at it after Shel's post and noticed the bottom pic (this time the page loaded instanteously). Sure enough, "PENTAX SMC." That's no screw mount lens. Plus it's identical to the lens on Boz's site... Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1316793311]
That's the point it is not a screw mount version or it would say Takumar on it. There is no variance on this point. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Blakely Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1316793311] Often this means the item is a "T" mount. I have two of these. Strictly speaking, it is a screw mount to which various adapters, K mount included, can be attached. No provision is made for any control of any kind, i.e. no diaphragm control. This mount is somewhat common on telescopes designed to also be used on cameras. However, this is not the case here. The lens is Pentax screw mount and she has a K mount adapter for it. Regards, Bob... From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I queried the seller of the 1000 mm. SMC lens on ebay. Does anyone > understand her answer? The lens mount is threaded but it is not screw > mount? > > From: Donna McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Joe, > No, this lens is not a screw mount by design. The end tube has threads, > which accept adapters which can be either screw mount or k mount, or > others. The end of the threaded tube, is approx. 2 1/2" in diameter. > We > just happen to have the k mount adapter for this unit. It is truly an > impressive piece of equipment. > Thanks for your interest, > Donna > > On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 15:01:23 PST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hi. Can I clarify that this is a screw-mount lens with a k-mount > > adapter? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: really ot
MS Excel or Lotus 123 usually. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of HARRY BAUGHMAN Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:43 PM To: pentax Subject: realy ot since every one on the list has a computer i would like to ask a question. what is a good program to create a column and line type chart? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale
If he offered them here first we wouldn't be missing them either and it would just be a transaction between friends. As it is it is sort of a case where he is either using the knowledgeable PDML members to drive the price up for non-PDML auction buyers or using the non-members to drive the price up to us his supposed friends. Here is an extreme but true example. The current Sports Car Club of America has about 50K members. In the late 1940's when it was started as a club to promote the ownership and sport of competing with real sports cars they had a rule that seems a little snobby today. To wit the membership rule was that if you owned a sports car and decided to sell it, if you didn't offer it to the club members first it was grounds to have your membership revoked. And they actually did things like that. I seem to remember that a few years ago we adopted some rule where you had to put the words "for sale" in the subject line so that if people wanted to filter those messages out they could. Did we drop that rule or something? Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frits J. Wüthrich Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale I fail to see what the problem is to promote ones auctions on PDML. At least it gives the PDML members awareness of the items that otherwise might have been missed. Frits Wüthrich frank theriault wrote: > I really don't see what the big deal (no pun intended) is. I > tend to agree with > the spirit of your post, Kent, but if someone wants to give is a > list of their > current eBay auctions, I would guess that Fridays is as good a > day as any. If > there's anything of interest, I may look at the auction, but > probably won't bid, > since there aren't very many real bargains on eBay these days anyway. > > I have to admit that I would hold someone who offers items to > list members only > at a reasonable price in higher regard than someone who simply > lumps us all in > with eBayers at large - you know Pentaxian community and all - > but I certainly > don't think of such actions as sanctionable, and certainly not > worth banishment. > > With up to 200 and sometimes more postings per day, I can easily > delete a few on > Fridays that don't pique my interest for whatever reason. > > My two cents worth... > > regards, and Happy New Years to all, > frank > > Kent Gittings wrote: > > > I hate to say it but I think we should use the same rules for > posting things > > for sale here that we've gone to on the Minolta users list. > That is the only > > acceptable posting of a for sale item is BEFORE you list it on > some auction > > site. If you are going to be a member of a group then there is > no reason for > > you to be allowed to be a member of that group if you are not > going to give > > the group members first crack at something. This is a case of > schilling your > > own items to your friends as far as I'm concerned. Sort of like the case > > where you and your next door neighbor both collect Steuben glass and he > > comes over and says "listen I just put a couple of pieces from > my collection > > I know that you liked down at Fred's Auction house. So why > don't you come > > down and bid on them if you are interested." > > I thought we forbade this kind of thing after discussing it > last year or so. > > This is by far the most cluttered list I belong to. Yes I sell things on > > eBay also. However I always post any Pentax items before I list > them in case > > anybody wants them. On the Minolta list you get one warning and > then you get > > permanently kicked off. I don't mind somebody finding a listing for some > > rare piece of Pentax gear that THEY AREN'T SELLING THEMSELVES! Otherwise > > they are just conning us into bidding their items up as far as I am > > concerned. > > Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale
I've had success selling to the list about 1/3-1/2 the time. And it saved me the hassle of using eBay. But if you want to just sell it on an auction site without telling us that's fine. Maybe just indicating you are selling something and giving us your eBay ID so we can see what you are listing would be enough. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale On 31 Dec 2001 at 13:28, Kent Gittings wrote: > No he's just hoping some poor schlep on the list will help bid his item up. If > he was concerned about his "friends" on the list he would offer them here first. > At least offering them before he puts them at auction. That's what I do. > Reputable people on this list do that. I just don't put him in that category > now. Kent Gittings >From my observations the difference between selling on a community list and eBay is that it seems easier for the buyer to make a decision and more likely that they will stick with it when the items are presented for auction on eBay. So I won't be offering items for sale direct to the list any longer, I have found through several attempts that it just does'nt work smoothly for out-of- towners. I hope that this doesn't also make me one of the "categorized" when you find my stuff on eBay with out having listed it here for a month at a discount and without a sale? Cheers, Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio) PO Box 701 HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481 AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check my current eBay auctions: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/ebay/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The brute force school of photography
Actually anybody who can carve the wishbone out of a turkey with an electric knife without messing up the bird is a surgeon in my book. :^) Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The brute force school of photography Anyone who uses salt is a chemist. Anyone who uses a hammer is a carpenter. Anyone with a lawn is a gardener. Anyone who cooks is a gourmet. Anyone who writes is a writer. Anyone who read this far must be really bored the day before New Years. Tom C. Axually Bill, itsh like shaying anyboty with a lischense to praktis medishine is a phisiician. - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: Re: The brute force school of photography > - Original Message - > From: "Len Paris" > Subject: Re: The brute force school of photography > > > > Now this reminds me of a while back on the list when I said > that > > a photographer had to know something about photography and > > his/her equipment to be able to claim to be a photographer. > At > > that time, it was determined by a bunch of people that a > > photographer is a person that takes pictures. Everyone that > > takes pictures is a photographer. > > > > Where are all of those people now? Or was that just the > > practice of "Len bashing" > > Len, when you get bashed by people who obviously don't have a > sniff, (if someone said the above, they fit the description), > you don't need defending. > Saying anyone who takes pictures is a photographer is akin to > saying anyone who carves a Christmas turkey is a surgeon. > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Showpiece Pentax LX w/FA-1 Finder--Gooeyduck!
Me too. I got an excellent deal on a mint condition KX MD from Marv. Some people get ticked off just because he lives out in the boondocks, is not that mobile, and as a result doesn't respond that fast. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary L. Murphy Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Showpiece Pentax LX w/FA-1 Finder--Gooeyduck! On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:36:41 -0500, Fred wrote: >There are some here who already know better than to buy from Mr. >Gooeyduck (although "your mileage may vary"). As you say "your milage may vary"... I've had nothing but excellent transactions from Marv. He has always been straightforward and honest with me and I have yet to have a single problem with him. I both purchased and sold camera gear from/to him. >We are fortunate that his conceit causes him to put his name right >into the subject of the listing, making his listings easy to spot >(and to skip). Tell me Fred, what exactly has he done to you to warrant this? Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale
In that case you have a point but to be specific the guy should offer it to us at a firm price. If you factor in the cost of the eBay listing and other incidentals it could be sold to us for a little less and the seller could still get everything he might get from an auction listing. If we can't afford it then whatever he does is fine. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My eBay Pentax garage sale Two weeks ago I posted a Yashica rangefinder on CameraQuest's rangefinder discussion list. I had paid $263 on EBay; I tried to sell it to fellow list members for $185. When I had no takers after 1 week, I posted a classified on a more widely read site for $225 with whose readers I felt no connection. It sold yesterday and I shipped it today. But for a $40 shortfall I would have gladly let one of my RF list buddies have it. But what is someone to do who has, say, a 135/1.8 PKA*, two of which fetched $1800 and $1,810 in mid 2001? I don't think any of us at PDML could come up with that kind of money without risking divorce. Should the seller ask $1,200 and cheat himself of $600? Or should he say, "If anyone on the list wants it, it's yours for $1,800"? I know that Pal grappled with this in recent months, but I can't recall how it turned out. Paul Stregevsky mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale
Actually the guys I hate the worst are the ones who blab on the list about some juicy item they found listed. Especially if I'm sitting on that item trying to get it low. :^) Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Juan J. Buhler Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale Kent Gittings writes: > I hate to say it but I think we should use the same rules for posting things > for sale here that we've gone to on the Minolta users list. That is the only > acceptable posting of a for sale item is BEFORE you list it on some auction > site. If you are going to be a member of a group then there is no reason for > you to be allowed to be a member of that group if you are not going to give > the group members first crack at something. Those posts don't bother me too much, although we might probably keep that kind of things for on-sale Fridays. The couple of times I've posted an ebay item that I was selling here, I promised a small discount on the final price to list members. Consider doing that if you're going to tell us about your auctions... Of course, we all know that real PDMLers only buy on ebay when it is a bargain, like a K24/3.5 for $50 or a black MX with bad foam for $67. So since PDMLers like to buy low and sell high, it's unlikely that they'll sell to each other anyway :-) j = -- Juan J. Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The brute force school of photography
The motordrive outside the parameters I mention is just an autowinder. Admittedly a fast one but an autowinder none the less. Unless I'm at an event or I stumble on a some story I think the newspaper will want photos of my motordrives stay in the single frame mod. I still like to compose shots when I have the time. I personally don't know anybody who keeps their camera on continuous fire all the tire. If there are such people I agree they aren't likely to be photographers. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The brute force school of photography No - I am saying that some people strive just to capture something while others strive to capture something special or unique. I said nothing about a motor drive, but alluded to the idea that some people engage the motor without engaging their brain. Kent Gittings wrote: > > So you are saying that lots of brains and experience dumbs us out when we > get a motordrive? Get real. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What Do You Think About Nature Photographer Magazine?
That's what I found also if I remember. I like Outdoor Photographer better. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:41 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: What Do You Think About Nature Photographer Magazine? I have enjoyed Nature Photographer Magazine in the past. I was looking online for submission guidelines. Apparently, one is required to be a subscriber to the magazine and have a Level 3 subscription in order to be a contributor of articles or photos. Level 3 memberships cost 78USD a year and the magazine is only published quarterly! http://www.naturephotographermag.com/subscriptions.htm Does this sound a little strange to you... that a magazine is only interested in submissions from paying contributors? Does that seem backwards? Not what I expected AT ALL. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale
No he's just hoping some poor schlep on the list will help bid his item up. If he was concerned about his "friends" on the list he would offer them here first. At least offering them before he puts them at auction. That's what I do. Reputable people on this list do that. I just don't put him in that category now. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale Kent, I don't understand why you consider it shilling when one publicizes that he has posted an item at auction. It's shilling only if he enlists someone to bid up the price with no intention of being the final buyer. That's not the typical PDML poster's intention at all; he just wants to give his fellow list members a fair crack at owning the item without selling himself short. Paul Stregevsky mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale
No you can view them all you want. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Soames Wetmore Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: My eBay Pentax garage sale >On the Minolta list you get one warning and then you get >permanently kicked off." [Kent Gittings] Sounds like a friendly place! Is that the same list that doesn't let you view the archives unless you're a member, or another one? RSW _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The brute force school of photography
So you are saying that lots of brains and experience dumbs us out when we get a motordrive? Get real. Take a look at all the great football pictures from the 60's. Most game shots were done with early Pentax or Nikon motordrive cameras. You see anything close up from the 50's and 60's and you can bet in most cases it was staged not game film. It actually takes as much or more skill to do action photography as a real photographer as opposed to a hack shooter. Remember you get to see what you are going to shoot very clearly right in front of you. Because it is not shot "in the moment" when time is really critical. We not only have to put ourselves in the right place we have to visualize in our heads the shot or potential shot we want to get. Because it happens too fast in most cases to have the luxury of setting it up perfectly. Heck anybody can take a decent shot when the subject is right in front of them if they remember some basic rules. Try composing a potential shot in your head not knowing whether it will happen or not. Knowing that the moment is so fleeting that your brain can't compose the shot fast enough or it will be gone. So each time frame of the moment can be divided into an almost infinite number of potential shots. But if you shoot by hand you can only get one of those moments per second and it may not be exactly the shot you imagined. At 3 FPS you still miss lots of potential moments happening between the shots. At 10 FPS you miss even less of them. They called it "Life" magazine for a reason. Photographs of things in motion are pictures of life. Photographs of things staged or posed are just pictures of things, be they living beings or inanimate objects. There is a reason why magazine photographers use motordrives in a model shoot. They let the model move just giving pointers. They generally shoot as fast as they can. Because the movement of features, hair, and clothing are what gives the shots the illusion of life. And to do that they have to continually shoot. Portraits on the other hand are not pictures of life. If done well they are pictures of how life has effected the subject. And that is art also. Just not my kind of art. If Ansel Adams shot a picture of a gorgeous Western landscape I'd consider the picture full of the majesty of creation, but not of life. On the otherhand the same landscape with a thundering herd of wild horses moving across it I would consider a picture of life. And if I have to use a motordrive camera instead of an 8x10 plate camera to get my shot successfully then what I do is no less photographic art that what he did (or my brother does now). I've had a 35mm camera in my hands continually for almost 40 years. I'm the son of a late superb amateur travel photographer (and WWII photographer when he wasn't shooting). And the brother of a full time working pro who has published 2 books of his own and teaches his art. So I have some idea what constitutes good photo art. You should tag along sometime when we walk through somebody else's show critiquing their photos. And I'm not perfect. My brother still thinks I need more people in my selections. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The brute force school of photography There are those who strive to get ~an~ image, and those that seek to get ~the~ image. Bill Owens wrote: > > Yep, Wheatfield (or is it Snowfield this time of year) is absolutely > correct. IMNSHO, those that rely on motor drives are photographic > technicians. Those that rely on their brain and experience are > photographers. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Wimberley Head on Ebay
It's the preferred head by a sizeable number of nature and sports shooters using any brand of 600/4 or larger lens. They also make a smaller version called a Sidekick which is designed to fit into the QR plate holder of an Arca type ballhead when the plate is dropped into the 90 degree slot. then the QR plate it put on the plate holder of the Sidekick. It is used mainly for lenses up to about 500/4.5 or so. And is cheaper if you already have a compatible ballhead. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Apilado Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Wimberley Head on Ebay I've got the 500mm SMC Takumar. Never heard of this Wimberley Gimble head until I saw this post. I'll have to look into it. Jim A. > From: John Mustarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:42:44 -0600 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: Wimberley Head on Ebay > > Very unusual to see one of these on Ebay. Works great with that 600/4 > you've been meaning to get. > > Wimberley Gimble Long Lens Tripod Head: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1315808180 > > -- > John Mustarde > www.photolin.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Found an MZ-S BG-10 IR Remote Substitute
Then that probably means you can use one of those universal programmable remotes also by either experimenting or inputting the Sony code. Gee I wonder if that will work with Minolta's IR also. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of gabriel bovino Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Found an MZ-S BG-10 IR Remote Substitute Hey everyone, If you own an MZ-S with the BG-10 grip but didn't want to spend the money to buy the IR Remote Then grab one of your remote controls for your television and keep hitting all the buttons until one of them fires the shutter on your camera. From my experiment (I just wanted to say that because it sounds cool), I discovered that the Sony Remote Controllers fire the shutter on the MZ-S with the BG-10 Grip attached. The following buttons will fire the shutter: Sony TV Remote (RM0Y168 - basic remote that comes with Sony Televisions nowadays) 1) System Off Button 2) Set Remote to VTR/DVD and hold down any of the directional arrow buttons at the bottom in the circular button scheme. Sony DVD Remote (RMT-D128A - may work with other Sony DVD Remotes) 1) Any of the directional arrow buttons at the bottom in the circular button scheme. Hey... I know that your probably not going to want to lug around a TV remote when your taking pictures. But, it offers a great solution for those who want to take pictures in the comfort of their homes while watching TV! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Square Format
Nice thing about a square format is you don't have to worry about mounting the camera horizontal or vertical because you wish you had a larger format. You just shoot and crop a little. A shot using a 6x6 format means you don't have to go through the potential contortions you might need shooting a 6x4.5. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Square Format Paul Stenquist asked: > Everyone think real hard. Out of yur best 100 all-time photographs, how > many have you cropped to a square? What proportion of paintings in the > Met are square? Enough said. #include My understanding of square format shooting (caveat: I've not shot square) is that you expect to crop those square frames to some other shape. For someone willing to crop, square makes sense. (That being said, I'd prefer not to go square anyhow, but it's a matter of irrational personal preference, not an inherent problem with the format. Then again, I _do_ try to frame things "just so" in the viewfinder ... _occasionally_ I'll shoot wider with the intent to crop later; more often when I crop it's because I've changed my mind about how the shot should have been framed or someone else has convinced me.) The bit about not having to turn the camera for vertical format shots makes a lot of sense to me. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 500/5.6
Well its minimum is longer then my Tamron 300/2.8. But it will still go short enough to reach out to my front bird feeder just barely. And when on the Super A MD it works good changing the shutter speed as I turn the aperture ring (no click stops). We start filing the feeders this week so I'll shoot some with it and find out how it does. McBroom's lists the lens as costing $950 new and worth from $240-480 in EX condition used. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Mustarde Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500/5.6 On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:11:44 -0500, you wrote: >Turns out to be an American made Century Tele-Athenar II 500/5.6. Wow! Congratulations on an unusual find. The Century optics, from all I've read, are second to none. I hope it shoots as good as I think it will. What's the minimum focus distance? Older tele lenses usually need tubes to get very close, but since this was made for movies maybe it is different. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Good 300mm lens, hopefully cheap
For some reason your word "screwmount" and his word "autofocus" don't seem to compatible. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Kane Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Good 300mm lens, hopefully cheap John, If you are interested in a screw mount, I have one (non-pentax) that I want to sell for about $75 plus shipping. Let me know if your interested. Bill Kane John Mustarde wrote: > What is the best 300mm autofocus lens in K-mount that one can > generally get for under $350 US? Primes or zooms are acceptable, as > long as they go to 300mm, and are optically good enough for decent > 8x10 enlargements shooting wide open at 300mm. > > -- > John Mustarde > www.photolin.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Med Format Quandry
Well mine had only the frame spacing problem when I got it. And it varied depending on the spool position. But nowhere was it more than a 4mm overlap which at the time was enough for me to still do some testing with it. I have the repair book now but I've got the rest of a roll shot during the Leonid meteor shower I have to shoot off first. Bought a few bricks of out-of-date 120 film from a camera store on eBay (two bricks of Astia and one of NPL). So far the results seem to be good. Especially the color renditions of outdoor garden scenes. TTL meter reads very close to what my manual K-mount bodies read, maybe 1/3 stop off. TTL finder uses 3 A76 batteries. Trust the Russkies to use an odd voltage combination. I plan to do some winter shooting if we get some snow here. I love the 150mm F2.8 Kaleinar. By the way most of these lenses come with a 3 pack of front filters that fit in a compartment in the lid of the lens cases from the factory. So if you are interested check to see if they are there when you want to buy a lens. In the case of the 150 that means 3 82mm filters. If you are also contemplating a Kiev 88C (Hassy 1000 clone) only get one if it has the mod to convert the lens mount to the Kiev 60/Pentacon bayonet. It will save a lot of problems in buying lenses. The Kiev 88 is the one that needs some better light baffling in the mirror box area and it is something the Kiev repair places do as a part of a package. They can also add MLU to a Kiev 60 and/or convert it to 6x4.5 from 6x6 if you want. The camera, TTL finder and waist-level finder cost me $182 on eBay. And it looked close to brand new from a dealer of them in the mid-South. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Evan Hanson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Med Format Quandry Kent, how has the Kiev 60 worked out for you I'm thinking about getting an 88 but may get the more dependable and cheaper 60 and extra lenses. Evan From: "Kent Gittings" > All those choices have some merit. Still the main reason you buy the camera > is to hang good lenses on it and put the kind of film in the back you want. > If you want good metering you use a hand meter. According to a lot of MF > pros I know the Schneider lenses are the best especially the Xenotars ($$$) > which are available from a lot of the factories with their names on them. > And believe it or not they are also available to fit the Pentacon 6/Exacta > 66/ Kiev 60 bodies. I've heard that a lot of people consider the Pentax 6x7 > as a Spotmatic on steroids. Well after using a Kiev 60 for about a year now > I consider it more of an Alpa 9D on steroids (not as well built as the Alpa > however). You can get a Kiev 60 body for about $150-250 with the TTL prism > (uncoupled like the Alpa 9D). However they generally come in good mechanical > condition but need some upgrades and tuning to be on a par with other MF > bodies. Meters are surprisingly good and accurate enough for print film if > you don't mind the "match LED" system. The slow 1/30 flash sync might be > unacceptable for some. > The Warsaw pact made lenses are surprisingly good with one or two that you > might want to give a pass to (MIR 45/3.5 for one). The Arsat, Kaleinar, Aus > Jena (East German Zeiss) lenses are all very good and cheap at the same time > (all these factories were set up or improved using the captured Zeiss > technicians and plant machinery after WWII, while the West got the Zeiss > engineers). There are several places in the US where you can send any of the > Kiev's to be upgraded/improved/repaired to top condition. This includes both > the 35mm-like Kiev 60 and the Hassy clone Kiev 88 including changing the > latter's mount to the Kiev 60 bayonet/breech lock. Just think of having a > setup with both a 35mm type 120 body and another body with interchangeable > backs using the same lens system. I paid less than $200 each for all the > following lenses: > Arsat 30/3.5 Fisheye (a Bob Shell Best buy) > Mir 45/3.5 (a little soft but useable for small enlargements) > Aus Jena 80/2.8 (same lens design as the western Zeiss) > Kaleinar 150/2.8 (Bob Shell gem) > Mir 250/3.5 (good longer lens) > Mir 2x TC. > Arsat extension tube set. > Other good lenses include the Zeiss Flektagon 50/4, Mir 65/3.5, Zeiss > 120/2.8, Zeiss 300/4, and Pentacon 300/4 and 500/5.6. > Not to mention adapters to use the lenses on M42, Pentax-K, and Pentax 645. > I currently use an old classic Pentax/Honeywell Super-Lite II flash with it > on a Vivitar MF bracket. > I look at it more as an extension of my Spotmatic F/ES/ES II cameras than as > an addition to my Pentax K and Minolta AF gear. > And if you want to save money and have some mechanical ability there is a >
RE: 50/1.2 Variations
Tamron calls that stuff "optical acrylic". However I've never seen a single example of a real Pentax lens (excluding rebadges) that had anything but optical glass, quartz, or fluorite elements. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Len Paris Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50/1.2 Variations Do you think it may have plasic lens elements in it? Len --- > I noticed on Boz's site that the A50/1.2 weighs less than the K50/1.2. > I recently received both models of this lens, and after weighing them on > an accurate and calibrated scale, it was clear that the A lens weighed > less by (if I recall) 1.6 ounces. That's a big difference for what > otherwise are identical lenses. > > I'm curious to know where the weight went. My initial guess is that the > A lens contains more plastic. > > Comments? > -- > Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PZ-1p review
Possibly. Minolta generally releases limited production versions of their cameras not for sales but for promotions sort of like the LX2000. They only made 1000 of the Maxxum 9ti. We heard on the grapevine (somebody found some kind of new digital product AVI file on a Minolta server somewhere) that Minolta is announcing some new digital camera in the first week of January. Whether it is the rumored digital 7 or 9 body is pure speculation. I keep waiting to see whether Minolta or Pentax will be the first between them out with a 4+ MP 35mm type digital body. I'll only switch back to Canon most likely if nothing comes out in the next year or so. Eventually I'll will have to add a high end digital body to my equipment (while I practice with the Minolta RD-175 I picked up used). As it is right now I'm too busy to do much shooting. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pål Jensen Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PZ-1p review Kent wrote: > Actually failure in the marketplace is relative. Minolta can sell every > Maxxum 7 they can build. They just can't meet demand and they are also still > on the losing side of the dollar equation when you factor in R&D and > marketing costs. Not according to the Finacial times. I believe (if my memory serves me right) that projected sales of the Dynaxx7 was 40 - 50 000/units a month something that make the real production of 8000 units downright pathetic. Volume is probably lower by now. Its clear to me that Minolta tried to repeat the success of the original 7 of 1985, that sold 2 million in couple of years, but failed in these Nikon vs. Canon times. I also doubt that the Dynaxx7 cannot meet demand. They have just released a Limited version a sure sign that they want to increase sales. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Speaking of films transport speed, was Re: I love the PZ-1p
Pentax is sort of like Minolta in that respect. Only Canon and Nikon fight for the rarified area of 7+ FPS because they have to compete against each other. Minolta's entire XXXsi line only did 3 FPS max and the high end 9000/9xi/9 top out in the 4-5.5 FPS range. Besides sports I find one other area where a faster motordrive is useful. That is in bracketing where being able to get the 3-5 shots off faster and closer together means that the subject will have a better chance of being the same for all the shots. Other than that the fastest motordrive just becomes a quick autowinder. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pål Jensen Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Speaking of films transport speed, was Re: I love the PZ-1p Bill wrote: > What happened to make film transport speed so important? Didn't sports > photogs learn how to use their equipment and get great shots in the days > before high speed motordrives? When I was shooting for our college yearbook > back in 1962-63, I used a rangefinder 35 and a Speed Graphic, and with a > little practice was able to anticipate when to press the shutter. To me > this makes much more sense than burning 10 or 12 rolls of film per game and > hoping the camera had enough intelligence to anticipate the exact moment for > the shot. I have a hard time understanding why Pentax choose only 2,5fps rate of the MZ-S. Probably a spasm of common sense; after all very few shoot with 5fps and in tune with a no-nonsense approach they rather put priorities of having a precise and durable film transport. They strongly misjudged the psychlogical effect though. I believe the slow film transport is the main reason that people insist that the MZ-S is under specified. It is like a camera with 2,5FPS must be cheap. Its apparently hard to see through those superficial specifications. Some seem to forget the fact that only a fraction of the LX and F3 sold, being professional cameras and all, ever enjoyed a motor drive. So its no wonder that Pentax, who never catered to the sports photographers anyway, choose not to emphasise this feature. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: I love the PZ-1p
Gee maybe that's why Canon and Minolta designed their AF lines like that from the start. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I love the PZ-1p I agree 100%. It is very nice to spin the dials w/o taking the eye from the viewfinder. The thing this thread is inevitably showing is that our sensory inputs become accustomed to certain stimuli. We tend to become familiar with a camera body, and then enjoy using it. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Artur Ledóchowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:53 AM Subject: Odp: I love the PZ-1p > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: I love the PZ-1p > > > > Aperture control on the body is MUCH better than using > > the aperture ring on the MZ-S. This is a BIG problem with the MZ-S and > zoom > > lenses. Hyper manual should have been a feature on the MZ-S, in my > opinion. > > Heck...you can even change the aperture on the body of the ZX-7. > > EXACTLY!:) I have the MZ-7 and love the ability to control the aperture from > the body, since it allows me to do every operation without taking my eye > from the viewfinder. I have everything under control of my index fingers... > That in the MZ-S the Av operates by turning the aperture ring was quite a > disappointment to me. I've never owed neither a Z-1p nor the MZ-S, but > played with a Z-1 and a Z-50 - I had NO problem with mastering the control > of them without ANY manual (except for PF's, of course:)). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: DPI vs. PPI
I don't know either. If I thought that there was really only about 6 MP of real info in a 35mm frame I might make the switch to digital sooner than I expect to. But I'm not sure they are not fudging their opinions down so as to sell large amounts of their higher end digital cameras. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DPI vs. PPI That's interesting, but let me ask this. I'll do it rhethorical fashion. When I scan a 35mm slide with my 2438ppi scanner, what part of the 20+ megabyte file would I choose as being inconsequential to the image? And now with the 4000ppi scanners it seems there is even more data to be found in a 35mm frame. Tom C. Kent Kittings wrote: > By the way in the latest > product news from Fuji they say that generally (without specifying the film) > a 35mm snapshot has about 6 MP of info that can be mined out of it with even > the best scanners. This is when comparing it to their 6900 digicam that has > a 6 MP interpolation mode. I know at some point a higher and higher dpi film > scanner will get no more real data out of a negative/slide but just > interpolation of the areas between the grain. However I was under the > impression the amount of data on a 35mm frame was higher. So either they are > fudging so as to place themselves correctly in the digicam world or they are > correct and maybe downplaying the actual data content of their own film to > move towards a digital world. > Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tokina 35-70 2.8 'Fujica' mount = Pentax, no?
Fujica cameras are either their bayonet or a version of M42. They have a different style of open aperture metering than the Pentax SMC-T but all can be used in regular M42 modes. From old handling I'm pretty sure their bayonet mount is not truly compatible to Pentax K but I could be wrong. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:31 AM To: Pentax List Subject: Tokina 35-70 2.8 'Fujica' mount = Pentax, no? Someone advertising a Tokina 35-70 2.8 in a Fujica mount. Am I wrong in assuming that this is Pentax K mount? I had a Fujica years ago and I could swear it was a K mount??? Confused, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand)
Full moon shots generally needs something like an ND25 or ND13 filter to reduce glare, and increase contrast and detail. Otherwise stick to shots in the terminator area (line of sunlight) where detail and contrast are higher. Just remember to use an astro recommended shutter speed and not something the camera may meter. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Blakely Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand) I'd use 400 IS0 to keep the shutter above 1/100 even with the mirror up. As to B&W or color, the moon doesn't have much color. I find the full moon unsatisfying. The sun is straight on so no shadows are cast. I like a gibbous moon. Affix as much weight on the camera as is practical to reduce the amplitude of any vibrations, but don't do anything that over stresses the lens mount. I'd set steel points on concrete. Use a head. The earth turns faster than you think. Regards, Bob... "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." - Samuel Adams, 1771 - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand) > Hi John, > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:05:19 -0600, John Mustarde wrote: > > > Your Sigma AF 400/5.6 APO Macro will be a pleasant surprise in terms > > of sharpness and contrast. I'm quite sure it will blow the K-400/5.6 > > and certainly the Tokina out of the water, especially wide open. > > Boy, John, I hope you're right. I'd love to find out that my technique > isn't as bad as I thought but my 400 lenses aren't as good as I > thought. :-) I think I'm going to try a couple of moon shots tomorrow > night with the Sigma. If I think about it, I'll do some "side by side" > comparison shots with the K 400. Since I don't have a tripod collar > for the Tokina, I can't do side by sides for it. > > Speaking of taking moon photos, I'd appreciate comments on my plan of > attack. > > I'll be using a heavy duty surveyor's tripod (aluminum, unfortunately). > I may use a Bogen/Manfrotto 3262 ball head (the only head I have) or I > may put the camera directly on the tripod and adjust the legs instead > of using a head. I'll set the tripod up on earth rather than concrete. > > I'll ballast the tripod itself with a 40 pound (5 gallon) bucket of > water hanging from the center "yoke" of the tripod. I'm not sure > whether it's better to keep the ballast closer to the ground or the > "yoke". I'll ballast the lens and camera with one or two 2# ankle > weights. Either both over the tripod mount or one on the camera itself > and one near the front of the lens. > > I'll use the Sigma with two Pentax 2X-S T/Cs. It looks like the lens > would work with a 2X-L T/C, but I don't have one. :-( The body will be > my LX, since I have the "magnifinder" (looking down into the top of the > camera works better when it's elevated 30 or more degrees). > > I'll be using the "Moony 11" rule (like Sunny 16). That means a > shutter speed 4/ASA since my effective aperture will be f/22. Or should > that be 2/ASA? I'll have to do the math again. :-) > > I haven't decided on film yet. I've got the following in house: > Portra 160NC, Royal Gold 100 and 400, T400CN, TriX, and Max 400. I'm > thinking probably Portra or RG 100, or maybe TriX. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: DPI vs. PPI
Sorry but color CCD digicams use exactly the same technology as scanners in most cases. The only interpolation they do is if they are capable of producing a result that has higher res than the number of actual pixels in the CCD grid. Which is exactly how a 1200x2400 pixel/dot scanner can come up with an interpolated scan that is 9600x9600. By the way in the latest product news from Fuji they say that generally (without specifying the film) a 35mm snapshot has about 6 MP of info that can be mined out of it with even the best scanners. This is when comparing it to their 6900 digicam that has a 6 MP interpolation mode. I know at some point a higher and higher dpi film scanner will get no more real data out of a negative/slide but just interpolation of the areas between the grain. However I was under the impression the amount of data on a 35mm frame was higher. So either they are fudging so as to place themselves correctly in the digicam world or they are correct and maybe downplaying the actual data content of their own film to move towards a digital world. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DPI vs. PPI On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:50:24 -0700, aimcompute wrote: > I have noticed that scanner mfr.'s use the term interchangeably. For > instance Minolta lists their scanner resolutions in dpi. I've always thought of it as "pixels" each have all of the color vectors (R, G, and B, or C, M, Y, and K, or whatever), whiles "dots" have only one color vector. Sort of like the difference in color scanner sensors and digicam sensors. The color scanner samples all of the colors at each pixel while the digicam (generally) only samples one color at each pixel, then interpolates the other colors. Printers generally get described in "dots" while scanners and monitors in "pixels". YMMV TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Data imprinting
That's what I said all along. The other way is nearly impossible unless the rewind is really slow since I don't know a single camera that counts sprocket holes on rewind and could snap shot some data while the film is streaming by in hardly over 10 seconds or so. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Owens Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MZ-S Data imprinting There was a thread recently about MZ-S data imprinting and whether it was done at time of exposure or during rewind. I can now answer the question. At work tonight, I put the MZ-S in our dark box, opened the back and removed about half a roll. Stuck it in the film processor and when it exited, the exposure data was where it was supposed to be. Therefore, the MZ-S imprints the exposure data at the time of exposure. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cover Shot
I now anoint thee Sir Professional. It's not whether you think you do professional work that counts but whether others do. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:30 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Cover Shot I got an e-mail yesterday from Idaho Magazine. They have decided to use one of my shots for the January cover. The one they chose is: http://www.peaceoflight.com/WinterSports/GirlBlueSled.htm There were several that I thought were good candidates. This was one of them. I hand delivered it today. However I was a dufus. When I was asked to deliver the shot at 125% the web-image size and at 300dpi, I was thinking web, not print, and sized the image like I was doing it for the PUG. So like a dork I resized my original Photoshop scan to 750 pixels high and 300dpi. So when the art director opened it he said "Uh, I think this is going to be a little small". I rescanned and sent him the right size. I had asked him whether he preferred to do sharpening and contrast adjustments with the raw scans or whether I should do it. He said "When amateurs bring me photos I have to scan, I'll have to do that. But with professionals like yourself I would just as soon you do it since it will save me time." The reference to me as a professional made me giggle inside. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: long screw lens
Upsilon was Sigma/Sun's own "off" brand. The same lens was also sold under Spiratone's name. I have one of those plus an Upsilon 200/2.8. They are mostly interchangeable YS mount lenses. Performance was not bad but not in the same ballpark as an SMC-T 300/4 (have one of those also). Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Kane Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:35 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: FS: long screw lens Hey gang, Since it's friday, I will list this item: I have a long screw mount 300/4 lens I want to get rid of. I don't remember the brand right now, but I think it might be Upsilon. With a k-mount adapter it works pretty nicely on any Pentax camera. I'm looking to get $75 for it + shipping costs. (estimated around $10 in the US via USPS ground). If interested, contact me offlist. Illinois Bill Kane - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)
You are correct. My mistake in definition. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) No, it is a viewfinder camera. Rangefinder cameras by definition have an optical rangefinder. That means all those AF p&s cameras are not RF cameras at all. Calling them RF cameras is about the same as calling them SLR. camera, misleading to say the least. Ciao, graywolf - Original Message - From: Kent Gittings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) > Even if the camera uses separate viewfinders like early Leicas it's still a > rangefinder camera. > Kent Gittings > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Niesmertelny > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) > > > Frank, I own the Bessa L (no rangefinder/needs an lens-specific viewfinder) > with the Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4. True, the body is plasticky, but the lens > is worth the price of the whole kit. I'll get the 15mm eventually. In > terms of shutter noise, I don't think the camera was ever intended on being > Leica-like, only Leica-ready. My ME Super is probably as quiet, maybe more > so. But it is a funky camera, good for a conversation whenever it goes out, > and not "threatening" as an SLR might be (as it is just plain goofy looking > to the general population). > > I got mine from B&H when they were having a "special", selling them for > US$129.00 (body only). > > Best regards, > > Chris > > > Frank thanked the respondents: > > Thanks for your responses. I surfed around the web a bit last night, and > much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews. > > Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong). > They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have > found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. > > And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you can > stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to). > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > ** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > www.mimesweeper.com > ** > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Battery pack FG
If you don't like that one don't ever suggest you get one for a Minolta STsi, HTsi, or XTsi. The Minolta one is as flimsy as they get made by screwing together a bunch of plastic parts, and to top it off they use the base plate of the camera as the top cover of the battery pack and make you have to take it off totally to replace the batteries. No slide in battery tray. But I still use that and the ones on my ZX-5n, ZX-10, Maxxum 700si and Maxxum 9. I have to admit that the vertical grip for the Maxxum 9 is the only one really worth the money. Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:58 AM To: pentax-discuss Subject: Re: Battery pack FG Actually, when they first came out they were something like $60 or $80 bucks! I bought one, decided I didn't like it, and sold it for nearly what I paid for it. The current prices are more in line with what you get, I think. That said, I have the battery grip for my MZ-S and I love it! It locks down nice and tight, and feels really good. I hope the MZ-S stays around for a long time--I really like mine. --Mark t wrote--- I scored the $12 used one from B&H a couple of weeks ago for my ZX-M. It was basically brand new. Maybe it was Mark's. ;) t - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Car Show Photo Suggestions ...
>From memory the DC convention center uses overhead sodium, mercury or halogen reflector lights suspended from the ceiling. However many of the booth areas add their own light which can often be small halogen or fluorescent. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Car Show Photo Suggestions ... It would be very uneven lighting. You'd have to have two flashes, and you'd still have some nasty reflections, Your best bet is to use the lighting in the show area and adjust your filtration accordingly. If you check with some local photographers who regularly shoot in that exhibition hall, they can probably advise you as to the color temp of the lights. The pr person at the facility might also be able to provide this info. Paul Kevin Waterson wrote: > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > make sure your exposures are very close to ambient. The flash will help > > clean up the color, but you'll have some ugly highlights in glass and chrome. > > What if an off camera flash was used so that you had the light coming in at > 45 degrees, have a friend hold the flash or if you have room, use a tripod. > > How would this arrangement work? > >car_here > > flash camera > > Kind regards > Kevin > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)
Even if the camera uses separate viewfinders like early Leicas it's still a rangefinder camera. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Niesmertelny Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) Frank, I own the Bessa L (no rangefinder/needs an lens-specific viewfinder) with the Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4. True, the body is plasticky, but the lens is worth the price of the whole kit. I'll get the 15mm eventually. In terms of shutter noise, I don't think the camera was ever intended on being Leica-like, only Leica-ready. My ME Super is probably as quiet, maybe more so. But it is a funky camera, good for a conversation whenever it goes out, and not "threatening" as an SLR might be (as it is just plain goofy looking to the general population). I got mine from B&H when they were having a "special", selling them for US$129.00 (body only). Best regards, Chris Frank thanked the respondents: Thanks for your responses. I surfed around the web a bit last night, and much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews. Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong). They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you can stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Car Show Photo Suggestions ...
Having done that show for several years you need to try and work your way around to eliminate the light reflection point coming off the car. Unless you want to do more of an art print and use a 4 or 6 point star filter. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Car Show Photo Suggestions ... On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:00:35 +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote: > > make sure your exposures are very close to ambient. The flash will help > > clean up the color, but you'll have some ugly highlights in glass and chrome. > > What if an off camera flash was used so that you had the light coming in at > 45 degrees, have a friend hold the flash or if you have room, use a tripod. You'll still get nasty reflections in many cases, they'll just be in a different spot on the car. :-) TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Which Printer to Buy?
They may have 6 colors but only the BJC-8200 and S-800 have six tanks that can actively use them at one time. Most or all of the rest usually require either a separate 4 color photo cartridge (older Canons and HPs for sure and probably the rest also) or the replacement of 2 or 3 of the 4 tank models with photo ink cartridges. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which Printer to Buy? I think all the PHOTO printers have six colors, either standard or as an option. Ciao, graywolf - Original Message - From: Kent Gittings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: RE: Which Printer to Buy? > S800 has 6 ink tanks instead of 4 so it can have the regular and 2 photo ink > cartridges in and in use at the same time. It should increase the range of > reproducible colors. It has the same ink tank arrangement as the > discontinued BJC-8200 which I think at least one user on this list has. > Kent Gittings > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Which Printer to Buy? > > > Hi, > > Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just missed > them. > > I'm proably going to buy an Inkjet this weekend. The ones i'm looking at are > a Canon S600, Canon S800 and Epson 980. Is there other I should be looking > at? Has any one got any opinions on these? > > As yet i'm unable to see any real difference between the S600 and S800 > except for speed. > > The 980 is an A4 version of the 1270 or 1280 isnt it? > > I dont need a printer that prints more than A4 size as my scanner wont scan > at a high enough res to go that big. > > Any comments appreciated. > > Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just missed > them. > > Thanks, > Paul Jones > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > ** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > www.mimesweeper.com > ** > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Which Printer to Buy?
S800 has 6 ink tanks instead of 4 so it can have the regular and 2 photo ink cartridges in and in use at the same time. It should increase the range of reproducible colors. It has the same ink tank arrangement as the discontinued BJC-8200 which I think at least one user on this list has. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Which Printer to Buy? Hi, Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just missed them. I'm proably going to buy an Inkjet this weekend. The ones i'm looking at are a Canon S600, Canon S800 and Epson 980. Is there other I should be looking at? Has any one got any opinions on these? As yet i'm unable to see any real difference between the S600 and S800 except for speed. The 980 is an A4 version of the 1270 or 1280 isnt it? I dont need a printer that prints more than A4 size as my scanner wont scan at a high enough res to go that big. Any comments appreciated. Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just missed them. Thanks, Paul Jones - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Met Art Wolfe
Actually I think what he is saying is what a lot of wildlife shooters say about the difference between primes and current zooms is that the results are indistinguishable between a fast 200 prime and a pro level 80-200 zoom at 200mm. Not to say they don't have some differences but that they can't be seen on the film they are shooting. I know in my case I can't tell the difference between shots made with my old Pentax SMC 200/2.5 and my current Sigma EX 70-200/2.8 at 200mm. But remember these guys aren't talking about using zooms in place of 300-800mm primes but in place of 200mm and under ones. Except in the case of digital when an 80-200/2.8 zoom would be used instead of a 300/2.8 prime due to the multiplication factor. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Met Art Wolfe I suspect the reason he prefers zooms is the "nature" of his shots. When you're dealing with a flock of birds or a frolicking bear, you don't necessarily have the time to change lenses. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "harald_nancy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: Met Art Wolfe > Just happened to run into Art Wolfe, world renowned wildlife > and outdoor photographer, this weekend in Seattle, Washington. > If you don't know, this is his website: > http://www.artwolfe.com/ > > Started talking a bit about outdoor photography, so I asked him > "What's your favorite lense?" > He asks, "What camera are you using?" > I say, "Pentax". > His eyes light up, "Ah, Medium format". (one of his cameras is a Pentax Med. > Format). > "No", I say, "35mm". > I was kind of surprised that his favorite lense right now for 35mm > is the super wide angle zoom 17-35 mm. Next favorite 70-200mm zoom. > In his opinion modern pro-grade zooms have advanced to such a > degree that they are equal to primary lenses. He prefers them for composing. > His results obviously speak for themselves. > Just thought to share it with you. > Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements
Me too although I've never bought the upgrades to go above my current version 5.03 as yet. I suppose the more digital work I dabble in the more I might be inclined to upgrade to the latest version. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Adobe Photoshop Elements "Maris V. Lidaka, Sr." wrote: > > Paint Shop Pro may have a demo-download available, too - I know they did in the past. > They do: http://jasc.com/ I like PSP for the few things I do. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 50mm/1.2 Variations
The "/" was a carryover from the Takumar days. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Engel Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 50mm/1.2 Variations 19 Dec 01, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just curious about the serial numbers of the different K50/1.2 > variations. Can someone post the SNs for their K50/1.2s and let me know > if it's an "early" or "late" model. Thanks! --- Shel Belinkoff Shel, I have two K50 1.2's SMC PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm Serial Number 1467330 and SMC PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm Serial Number 1444624. Neither has the "/". Both have the "mm". The recent threads concerning with-n-without "/" & "mm" is the first I've heard that two versions existed, so I'm hardly the authority to confirm that mine are early or late models. But I'm assuming from this new info that they are both examples of the later model. Regards, Tim Engel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: why do tele-lenses have ED glass
It's not just longer lenses but faster ones with bigger front elements. The acceptable F-ratio for controlling dispersion without ED type glass goes up (slower) the larger the front element regardless of the F-ratio. In simple achromatic systems the acceptable F-ratio is 3" at F/15. But if the front element goes up to 4" the ratio has to be F/20 or slower, while for 5" it goes to F/27 or so. So the focus dispersion problem is significantly higher for a 600/4 lens than a 600/5.6 or a 600/8 lens because the front element is around 6" instead of 4" or 3". The steeper the light path the worse the problem (faster the F-ratio). Kent Gittings Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: why do tele-lenses have ED glass > does anyone know why tele-lenses have ED glass, and why wide > angles do not? First: As I understand it, low dispersion glass can be used to help prevent color fringing (sometimes visible as a red or purple edge on a viewed object). Since the different wavelengths (colors) of light are refracted by ordinary glass at different angles, glass designed to prevent this dispersion of light rays is cleverly called "LD" (for Low Dispersion) glass or (if the marketing department has its way - ) "ED" (for Extra low Dispersion) glass. Then: Lenses with longer focal lengths are the ones that tend to disperse the red and purple ends of the spectrum the most, if not corrected (or minimized, actually). The weak point in my little explanation here is that I do not know why this is more of a problem for longer focal lengths than shorter. (Sorry.) I guess "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"... So, my "quick and dirty" answer to your question, Frank, is that telephotos naturally produce more color fringing than wide-angles, so that they benefit more from the use of LD or ED glass, designed to minimize fringing. Just don't ask me to explain why it is the long lenses that produce the most color fringing - . Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p
Having been in this field longer than your brother I think you may have not posed the correct question. We aren't taking about voltage but the amount of current a given battery technology can sink across a give load value. A circuit has the same amount of current flow as long as the ohm value of the load and the voltage of the source remain constant. However in a camera the load seen is high (low current) when only the metering is operating. When the motordrive kicks in the power source has to be able to increase it's current flow to power the startup torque and running of the motor. The only way to do this is to suddenly have the battery see a lower load (fewer ohms of resistance). Various battery technologies have different peak current supply capabilities. If the camera maker wants to use this as part of the protection circuitry of the camera they will specify a limited battery type for the camera. Using rechargeables is only a problem in the voltage area if the electronics need to run close to the voltage produced by x number of alkalines or other specified types. If the camera has power regulation down to a something like 4 volts from 4 AA alkalines then 4 NiCads at 4.8 will work. On the otherhand if the camera maker says not to use NiMH or Lithium-Ion batteries it generally means that prolonged use of higher current capable battery technologies will eventually burn out some of the electronics because they were using the source current limit as part of the design process. Especially if the manual says something like "use of battery types not specified can void the warranty". Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan Charron Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rechargeable (2CR5) for PZ-1p Hello to All, My brother has been in electronics for over 25 years and he told me there is "No Way" that a rechargable could damage a camera motor. Rechargables always have a little less voltage than the regular batteries they replace. (1.25 volts to 1.5 volts for instance) To settle the issue, I have been using rechargables in my AA holder on my ZX5n and have had No Problems. A Rechargable Fan, Ryan Somebody wrote: > mentioned that the "hardness" (high current output under big drain) of > NiCd or big NiMH might damage the motor or something, is this really > true? Although I don't have this camera, I have made batterypacks for > almost everything photo-electric I have (mostly using old notebook > batteries, a friend tested them and selected the best for me, > suprising how they hold), so it's a curiosity-question. > > Good light, > Frantisek - - Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Needing a AF500FTZ
I have one you can have for $250 plus shipping. I have everything including the original box. Contact me privately on this. I love the flash but I'm phasing out all of my Pentax AF stuff right now. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Wright Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:43 PM To: PDML Subject: Needing a AF500FTZ Hi all, I've decided that I need to get the AF500FTZ flash... Does anyone have one that they can let go? Thanks!!! Nick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vs: Voigtlander lens
I think from memory they sold VCRs under the Kyocera name before they did 35mm cameras but I could be confused on the timing. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raimo Korhonen Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vs: Vs: Voigtlander lens Video? Kyocera is short version of Kyoto Ceramics - then they bought the bankrupt Yashica. But you are right, nobody is complaining. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Kent Gittings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 18. joulukuuta 2001 15:29 Aihe: RE: Vs: Voigtlander lens >Same thing Kyocera did when they resurrected Contax. I don't notice too many >people complaining about them being primarily a video company till then. >Kent > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds >Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:11 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Vs: Voigtlander lens > > >On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 04:55 PM, Raimo Korhonen wrote: > >> Correct - but I have two Voigtländer/Cosina LTM lenses - 4.5/15 mm and >> 1.7/35 mm - and the quality is impressive. Cosina also made the Ricoh >> KR-5 and it has a good reputation as a simple but reliable camera. > >Certainly. I didn't mean to imply that they weren't manufacturing good >stuff under the Voightlander name, just that they had not so great a >reputation as Cosina, so they bought the Voightlander name to give >themselves some credibility for their higher-end products. > >-Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Sigma APO 100-300mm f4 EX IF HSM
It has similar size and weight to the Tokina 100-300/4 I have in Minolta AF mount. It can be hand held as well as any 300/4 lens can be. If you can do one you can do the other. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sigma APO 100-300mm f4 EX IF HSM This looks like an interesting lens, and I believe there were good comments on the list about it. On Sigma's web site, it is listed as nearly 1.5 kg., or over 3 lbs. in weight. So my question to those who have used it is: is this a tripod lens, or can it be used hand-held? Thanks, Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 500/4.5
Is it M42 or K-mount? Its a manual lens either way. Good lens even by today's standards. However the 4 optical elements give it a long minimum focus distance. Longer than a current lens like the AF Sigma 500/4.5 for instance that has more elements. These things tend to go for around $700-800 on eBay depending on version, whether it is SMC or not, or one of the ones with Nikon mounts modified in NYC for the AP. Nobody makes a 500/4.5 mirror lens by the way. Only Sigma made a 500/4 mirror which actually goes pretty high on the used market. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Kane Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:28 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: 500/4.5 Hey gang, Anyone know how much the Pentax 500/4.5 should go for? This is the SMC, and is NOT a mirror lens. I've got the chance to get one, and am thinking about jumping on it as a holiday gift of sorts to myself . . . Thanks, Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: K2 DMD without flashsync
I assume for that price it don't have the motor drive. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anders Werholt Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: K2 DMD without flashsync Hi all, I have found a K2 DMD in good condition, except that the flash-sync does not work. I think the seller is asking a reasonably price (about 240 USD, including SMCM 35/2 and SMCM 100/2.8, both in good condition). This body is not found so often, at least not where I live. The problem is the flash-sync. This is not easily fixed, or am I wrong? The problem is probably shutter-related, and rather expensive to fix (if possible at all). Any advices? Best regards Anders Werholt - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ? PShop darkframe subst
Some digital cameras take an additional dark frame just before the shot and subtract it on the fly. You might want to check and make sure yours isn't one of those. Actually the noise is related to a lot of factors and it doesn't change as fast as you may think. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ? PShop darkframe subst Thanks for explanation! Guess I will have to use more conventional noise removal techniques, as I think (as Mark pointed out) the noise would change too much between the dark shot and normal shot - after all, it's called "noise", being irregular. I am not sure if it can work very well in the E20, btw, won't the noise pattern change too much even if they do it just before exposure? they must be very quick. Colour noise is not much problem, easy to remove, but what is a problem is luminance noise, extremely hard to remove without sacrificing detail. I find out that giving more exposure usually helps, but I used so far my digicam almost only to get news pictures of a music festival, where of course lighting wasn't ideal, so I had to use 400 iso anyway. For newspaper, it was ok fortunately. Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: EBay Buying
When I'm bidding seriously that is the way I bid also. I've found I can get much closer to the end using my office T-1 link than my dialup at home. I think 3 seconds from the end is my closest at work. However since I have most everything these days I'm seldom that intense anymore. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:20 PM To: Pentax List Subject: RE: EBay Buying Mark gives sound advice. But Cotty's the name, Sniping's the game. With all due respect, 60 seconds is far to much time to allow the competition to reload the page and hit with a higher bid. My usual bid time is at T-minus 12 seconds. My closest-to-auction-finish bid time was T-minus 3 seconds. I'm confident I can do it down to one second, but daren't try because I only bid on things I really want. Hints: I keep a small window at the bottom of the screen all ready to go with the 'submit' button visible, a much larger window with the auction towards the top of the screen. This can be reloaded at intervals to confirm connection reliability. If it's REALLY important, a stand-by computer is fired up and ready to go with windows ready and waiting, but obviously (on my modem connections) would take twenty seconds to hook up should the main machine crash / freeze / go U/S for any reason. Guage connection delay by refreshing the auction page at intervals of one minute, prior to the auction finish. EG if auction due to finish at 12:04:15, then try reloading the page at 12:02:15, then check 'auction finishes in XXX' time for delay. If it says 'auction finishes in 1 minute 58 seconds, then you know it took 2 seconds for your reload to register at the eBay end, and so will your bid.probably. I do 12 seconds, although I've been an adrenalin junkie recently with some 7 second hits. Love it! If that don't unclog the arteries, nothing will! Oh yeah, bid high, if you really want it, that is... ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: EBay Buying
Check seller's feedback especially recent ones. Also decide on your maximum price and try to control the impulse to buy it no matter what (unless we are talking about valuable items that might be a great deal, but try to control the impulse unless you want to go into buying and selling for profit). Know exactly what you are buying and don't be afraid to email questions to the seller if you are not sure. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EBay Buying All, I am looking at making a purchase via EBay. I understand that it is "buyer beware", but was wondering what things I should look for or ask the seller before throwing my hat in the ring. Also, there is a reserved price - is it OK to ask the seller what that is? Thanks for the help... Ed K - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ? PShop darkframe subst
I don't know they might be using it but in CCD astrophotography you take one shot of a nothing frame, like maybe the inside of the lens cap, and use the noise you find in the pixels to subtract the so-called dark frame from each real shot. This reduces the amount of noise that gets into a shot. So the amount of noise has only a very small effect on the final image because all or most of it is being subtracted prior to the final image. By the way with CCD/digital imagers the higher the ambient temperature the more noise you get. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ? PShop darkframe subst Hi, anybody knows what this technique is? I heard E-20 digicam uses darkframe substitution to reduce noise, any pointers on it in photoshop? I wanted to postprocess my digital files, removing noise already with LAB mode or quantum mechanics, but neither is much good for luminance noise. Thanks! Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Gun stocks
You must mean Zenit not Zenith. Zenit is the soviet company that made the Photo Sniper kit. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Malcolm Smith Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Gun stocks I remember Zenith selling a gun stock combo of the "E" camera version, which was quite popular with friends of mine. But the build quality and reliability was so poor when compared with my MX. I can't remember people keeping them long, but perhaps if the photo bug bit, maybe they moved onto a Pentax :-) Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johan Schoone Sent: 13 December 2001 17:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gun stocks "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Out of curiosity, how many of you long-lens-lovers use a gun stock for mounting > and shooting those big beasts? Do you mean some kind of shoulder rest? A Pentax photo sniper? -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re: OT posts
The unfortunate part about mistyping a word is when it is still a valid word your spell checker will pass it right by. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Re: OT posts Kent Gittings wrote: > > Clot Bullseye! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Apology
That's OK Mike. We are all probably just as sorry for bringing it up in the first place. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Johnston Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apology Hey everybody, I apologize for my intemperate post yesterday objecting to the "gun" thread and threatening to leave. I should have thought that one over before hitting "Send." Sorry! --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Re: Australians
Not really. To be honest it just means the criminals are more careful and commit less crimes as a result. The guns in illegal hands are still there. Not to mention any competent person in the world with a decent milling machine and lathe could turn out serviceable guns as long as they could get the stock to machine it from. It's not possible to uninvent anything whether it is a weapon or a camera. So lets get back to photography. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of dave o'brien Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > I probably should refrain from commenting in this thread, but when have I > ever shown good sense? Here in the US the statistics show when states have > enacted "shall issue" concealed carry laws the violent crime rate goes down > dramatically. A fact the anti-gun people try to cover up. Does that mean that the violent crime statistics actually begin to approach those of countries without mass gun ownership? dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Re: Australians
I'm trying to figure out what you mean by "version of for civilians". If you mean a non military version you are sort of correct. While the several versions of the full auto M16 don't have a civilian version there are plenty of semi-auto versions under other names produced by Armalite, Clot and others. Bushmaster even sells a bullpup version that takes all the same critical parts. And don't forget the semi-auto H-Bar precision target model. It still takes 20-40 round M16 magazines. On the subject of full-auto Class 3 weapons any law-biding, non-felony convicted American can get just about any full auto military firearm as long as you want to go through the background checks and pay all the money involve. Also the local police chief/sheriff where you reside has to approve and sign off that he will allow it to be stored in his jurisdiction. Some will and some won't. Getting in good with the local police is a good start before hand. I have friends who have M-60s, WWI/II British Vickers, Browning .30 Cal air and water-cooled, and German MG-34 light and medium machineguns. ATF and the local police know exactly where any legally owned full auto weapon is. The felony for an illegal one or even the parts to convert a semi-auto to full auto is a term from 10-20 years and only in rare cases do they impose less than 15 years. The husband of one of my former fellow employees owns a full military M-16. It was fine up here but when he moved to a new brokerage house and they sent him to North Carolina the local sheriff didn't want no "Yankee owned machinegun in his county" even though several of his local friends legally had some. So my friend had to store in it a secure location outside that county. By the time he evolved into a local "good ol' boy" he got sent back up to the Washington DC area and it didn't matter. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Blakely Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians I've tried to stay out of this OT thread, but the level of ignorance and of and paucity of rational thought is seriously getting to me. As to one previous poster who stated that the NRA produced ads with erroneous data concerning gun control in Australia, there was one such show 1/2 hour in length which contained an interview with Keith Tidswell of Australia's Sporting Shooters Association. the Australian government lodged an official complaint with the NRA demanding that they pull this misleading video. The NRA said, basically, "Screw you! We've researched the figures presented by Mr. Tidswell using your governments information and found them to be true. The interview is still available on the NRA site. As to your amazement that: > After the various massacres that have occurred (Dunblane, Port Arthur, > Columbine) it amazes me to think that anyone anywhere still believes it's Ok > for ordinary citizens to ordinarily possess weapons not necessary to their > trade (e.g. farmers with anti-vermin weapons, not M16's, AK47's or even M60's!). 1.No ordinary citizen of the United States has ever owned an M16's, AK47's or even M60's. Non fully automatic versions of M16's, AK47's are available in most states. M60's are not available. There is no version for civilians. I prefer the old M1 from WWII and the M1A (Civilian version of the M14) for national matches (Civilian Marksmanship Program, created by the U.S. Congress, http://www.odcmp.com/about_us.htm) - and for hunting. The felt recoil of a semi-automatic rifle is about half that of a bolt action version. Recoil on the M1A is also significantly reduced further by the flash suppressor. 2.Considering the fact that such aberrations as Dunblane, Port Arthur, Columbine are exceedingly rare, and that all such deaths over recorded history don't even begin to compare with the (comparable ages) death toll from automobiles, or swimming pools, cleaning chemicals under the sink or bicycles, etc. firearms are a comparatively safe household item. I say house hold item because there is something like 250 million firearms owned by 80 million civilians in approximately 40 million families in the US. Each year, approximately 150,000 folks are killed by physician and pharmaceutical error. Most of these folks were not involved in any life or limb threatening situation. This dwarfs folks killed in automobiles ~50,000 and those killed by firearms ~20,000. Presented for perspective... From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've stayed out of this one so far, but as a naturalised Australian born in > England I now gotta jump in! > Kent, the presumption of innocence also applies in both England and Australia - > the rule is that, in a jury trial, the jury must be satisfie
RE: LX finders
I remember paying $350 for that in Mint condition when I had my LX. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wendy beard Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LX finders After Stan mentioned the sports finder for the LX after my question about monopods, I thought I'd have a look round on ebay at prices. As luck would have it, there was one listed (FB1 with FC1) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1307363696 ending today. I was keeping an eye on it while looking around the stores with second hand listings. Then I noticed this in the description: "International biders will add 5% to the total bid" So didn't bother. Bit of a cheek I thought. Is this sort of thing common practice? Wendy --- Wendy & Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Help Advice needed
PZ-1p is what I would trade in. The ZX-5 makes a good compact camera for those situations where you might want to travel light. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nicolas Colarusso, CGA Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Help Advice needed Hi Need your help.. I am trading in either my MZ5n or Z1p for an MZ-s. Which would you trade in? Thanks in advance - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Screen cleaning
If the screen is glass use acetone. If plastic use something like distilled mater and mild soap, or possibly Windex but one without the ammonia additive. Blow it off with a little air first though. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Juan J. Buhler Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Screen cleaning So, my $67 black MX is here, and it looks quite as described in ebay. Dirty screen, winder cap missing, bad foam, but good and working otherwise. Even a bit less brassed that my main black MX. The screen seems just dirty. You can focus a lens, but it is distracting. I will try an LX screen on it, but until I get a cheap one, do you guys think I'll have any luck trying to clean the one that's there? Any way to clean these things? Thanks, j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Film-rewind Problem (was/still is MZ-S Imprinting Proble m)
I agree. But from a technical point of view imprinting during rewind is a major technical hurdle. On the otherhand if it is done at the shot time like every Pentax has done in the past it would make the camera mid-roll rewind and replace work much easier from a design point of view. Putting some kind of sensor in the area of the imprinting to check the exposure of the frame is much easier that trying to do one in the picture area you might have to move out of the way when you need to shoot. It's the KISS principle. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Brogden Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:43 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: MZ-S Film-rewind Problem (was/still is MZ-S Imprinting Proble m) On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, John Coyle wrote: > The expert's opinion does not gel with previous explanations, which > seems odd. This should be an easy one. Can someone with an MZ-S shoot a roll, take the camera into a dark place one shot before the end, remove the film, rewind it manually, and get it developed? If there's no data, then it's printed during the rewind. A control sample (a roll of film shot at the same time but rewound normally) would be a good idea, too. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Re: Australians
Maybe but if your like other people I know who live under the Crown-subject system just let them make, hopefully, a mistake and target you and see how you like the system then. The job of the police is apprehension not protection in reality. Just ask one. So between the time they might get there and the time the trouble starts a person has to take responsibility for his protection and that of his home and family. If there is no possibility that a gun could be involved (ha ha) then it behooves the person involved to at least take up some martial art as an act of protection for him and his family. I've been involved in various martial arts for over 30 years. I'm proficient with just about every possible missile throwing weapon up to and including the M79 grenade launcher in the US military arsenal. Between my late father, and my brother and I we could have probably made several Olympic teams in various shotgun, rifle, and archery competitions (I was also invited to the Olympic trials in volleyball in 68 and 72). I'm just paranoid enough that in a society with no guns at all I feel pretty safe. But in any land where bad guys can have them I wouldn't feel safe without something of my own and neither would my wife. So let's get back to photography where the things we shoot don't die as a result. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Coyle Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:03 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: OT: Re: Australians I've stayed out of this one so far, but as a naturalised Australian born in England I now gotta jump in! Kent, the presumption of innocence also applies in both England and Australia - the rule is that, in a jury trial, the jury must be satisfied 'beyond reasonable doubt' of the guilt of the accused. It is only recently that some offences can be tried with a majority verdict rule applying, also. Incidentally, since the Americas were settled largely by the English and French, you may find that the basis of your US law was that of English 18th century law, modified after independence. After the various massacres that have occurred (Dunblane, Port Arthur, Columbine) it amazes me to think that anyone anywhere still believes it's Ok for ordinary citizens to ordinarily possess weapons not necessary to their trade (eg farmers with anti-vermin weapons, not M16's, AK47's or even M60's!). I am not sure, either, that I don't prefer our police and security forces having the right to fully investigate suspected terrorists without the constraints of their so-called 'civil rights' having to be taken into account. And we don't have legislation to allow a military court to summarily try and execute suspects either! I promise this will be my only contribution to this OT thread! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:36 AM, Kent Gittings [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was wondering > how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from > Australia. Seems to me here at least we would be up in arms if our > government was given the police powers that yours are given. I realize a lot > of it is based on English law (guilty until proven innocent) and not > American law (innocent until proven guilty). > Over here bumper stickers are a big form of political/social comment. In > this realm a common one goes: > "A man with a gun is a citizen" > "A man without a gun is a subject" > Kent Gittings > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians > > > Paul Jones wrote: > > > > > I think that referendum for a republic was defeated due to the proposed > > system that was put forward, not because we didnt want to become a > republic. > > Yes, this was also played a big part in it. > The republic model put forward was very wanting in democratic process. > > > Its kinda interesting to see how some people from other countries persieve > > us. > > I am an Australian, I live in Byron Bay > > Kevin > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > ** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify &
RE: OT: Re: Australians
So that means many fine semi-auto competition/hunting shotguns are out also. Part of the problem is cultural history. Our ancestors resentment of the authority of the Crown finally made us make a successful effort to split from it. In England the Army was the mechanism that kept the peasants and serfs in line and maintained order. Owning of a sword by a person not part of the establishment was a capitol offense (after the Norman conquest at least). So the cultural bias was towards depending on the local authority for protection. In America it was a bitter fight just to get any kind of a standing army after independence. We were all sort of Libertarians in those days. Each person was expected to aid in the common good but each one also assumed personal protection for himself and his own. This was more like the Saxon fyrd concept than the Norman-English standing army concept. The concept was also framed in the Constitution on the off chance that some form of government came to power that the general citizenry might take serious offense to in the abrogation of their written and perceived liberties. Of course in those days the highest form of military weapon short of artillery was the musket which often had to be used to both defend yourself and put food on the table. Now there is hardly a case for owning a full auto military grade M-16 under those concepts but the law does permit law biding citizen to own one (at great expense). As a law biding member of society I could apply for and buy an M-60 machinegun and several thousand rounds of ammunition as both a collector and a shooter (they have special machinegun shooting days at some military bases a couple of times a year). The gun itself would cost around $5000 or more. Add in the $1500 for a top of the line gun safe to allow it to be stored in your house and you'd be out $10K in short order if you wanted to shoot it also. I personally don't own any Class 3 weapons (destructive devices that include full auto weapons and other military items that can shoot explosive rounds), but I do have numerous semi-auto handguns and shotguns in addition to revolvers and hunting rifles. I only caught up to my wife recently and she still has more handguns than I do (she collects special model Brownings). So the cost of something like that would be more than a Canon EOS-1D system, which to be honest I'd rather have than even a Browning M1A2 50 cal. machinegun. Except in the event of the breakdown of civilization as we know it. Then I'd be wishing for the 50 cal. BMG instead. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians Hi Kent, > Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was wondering > how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from > Australia. >From what i have seen the average Australian doesnt have a problem with it and they find it quite scarey that in the US the gun lobby has such power and that Americans are so 'gun loving'. The new law from memory only stopped ownership of semi-automatic rifles (no automatic also). I dont think that Australia was ever as gun orientated as the US and with current laws if you want a gun to go hunting, use one on your farm or in a gun club (the sort that shoots targets i assume) then you can get one. You just can't buy machine guns and the sort of stuff you could outfit an army with. I think handguns are illegal in all states (TAS?), except for target shooting stuff. It would be a lengthy process to obtain one for this purpose i assume. >. I realize a lot > of it is based on English law (guilty until proven innocent) and not > American law (innocent until proven guilty). This is incorrect. > Over here bumper stickers are a big form of political/social comment. In > this realm a common one goes: > "A man with a gun is a citizen" > "A man without a gun is a subject" We have bumper stickers here, though probaly not to the same extent as the US. I see the odd person, with a sticker "I Vote, I Shoot", these are usually on trucks and utes and look like the sort of person who probaly shouldn't own a gun :) I think Charlton Heston has lost a few browny points here. Regards, Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms
RE: Second Camera Body Recommendations
There are 2 schools of thought on that Tom. I like the 2 equal body version myself. However I don't have that. Some pros I know have the top body as their primary and the next one down as a secondary. Sometimes what comes into play is the fact you might not want to walk around in some locales with your most expensive body. Or you might want one slightly cheaper for other reasons. Or you want your second body to be good but lighter. (F5 and F100. EOS-1v and EOS-3, Maxxum 9 and Maxxum 7). Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Second Camera Body Recommendations Not a direct responce to you, ED, but a question that always comes up in my mind when people start asking about second bodies. On this list and amongst a most of the hobbiests I know, they always want a different body than the one they have. Myself and most pros I have known, on the other hand, want two identical bodies so we don't have to think about which one we are using at the moment. I wonder why that is? Ciao, graywolf - Original Message - From: EWKPhoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss@Pdml. Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: Second Camera Body Recommendations > I currently own a Pentax PZ20 that I have been using for quite sometime. I > am beginning to shoot slide film, but would like to continue to shoot prints > as well. My wife also uses the camera to shoot when she is in the mood > (mainly family prints). > > I am looking to get a second body to alleviate the slide/print problem (as > well as the ability to have one camera per person). I'll probably look to > the used market for something that will handle my current lens set as well > as offer the same or better functionality of the PZ20. I might also go to a > new camera if the recommendation is for something in the ZX-30 range ($199 > less $40 rebate at B&H). > > Lenses: > SMC-FA f/3.5-4.7 28-80 > SMC-FA f/3.5-5.6 28-80 > SMC-FA f/4-5.6 70-200 > SMC-FA f/4.5-5.6 100-300 > > Looking for recommendations. > > Thanks... > Ed > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Film-rewind Problem (was/still is MZ-S Imprinting Problem)
That's OK the early Maxxum 9 cameras had a software glitch so they had to do recalls on all the early ones to load in new software. The current ones can get sent in for a free upgrade to add the 3 extra functions of the 9ti model. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MZ-S Film-rewind Problem (was/still is MZ-S Imprinting Problem) OK, Just spoken to Pentax UK and their "MZ-S Expert" *assured* me that the data imprinting happens on a per-frame-shot basis, NOT during the film rewind. So we're now back to TWO questions: 1. Anyone had any problems with MZ-S film rewind (particularly - though not only - with bulk-loaded film)? 2. Anyone had any problems with MZ-S imprinting on certain types of film? Pentax have said they would need the camera back which is not exactly ideal for an 8-week old "flagship SLR" :-( Thanks P. Paul Wilkinson This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: long lenses
Or you could do it my way. I carefully built up a system over many years. Then out of the blue I stumbled onto a super sweet deal on a long pro telephoto in another camera mount. Then I started selling my old stuff and adding down into the new system. Sometimes the best laid plans get hijacked. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Kane Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:47 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: long lenses Woah, I need to really cut back on caffine and Ebay . . . I just found myself bidding on a 1000/11 on ebay. It's got a BIN of 699. Now I realize that I really don't WANT a 1000, I really want a 300/4 or 30/4.5 . . . . . . ok, so where do I start with the 12 step program? Do I buy all the lenses I want FIRST, or what? Maybe I should start with with a new camera body? ohhh yeah! Illinolis Bill [proud owner of an LX] (Is it Friday yet?) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S AF pattern - strange verticals?
Are you talking about with or without a vertical grip? Although not the only way the book correct way to shoot vertical is to have the shutter button on top which is the same orientation as it would have with a vertical grip. Several cameras I know of can tell the orientation such that one of the left side AF points becomes the bottom center when held vertical. Obviously in those cases where somebody might hold it the opposite way with the shutter on the down side the sensors would be in the wrong area. This might come into play as you are suggesting possibly. I'm not totally familiar with the MZ-S pattern myself. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MZ-S AF pattern - strange verticals? Hi, Just out of curiosity, why do you think (if you find it lacking) MZ-S lacks a bottom (far-right when vertical) AF point? For me, it would make AFing portraits pretty difficult, as we (the part of PDML using Latin alphabet or writing in left>right direction) tend to read photos from left to right, so an "optimized" portrait placing is looking to the left, on right side of frame (if I can exaggerate it somehow). I am just curious if this missing AF point is beacuse of Japanese "reverse" right>left reading direction. Our reading direction has a definite impact on reading photographs, and their has probably too. Good light, (bored) Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Australians
I have some in my collection as a matter of fact. I think they are from New South Wales somewhere. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Rapp Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Australians But. Talk to a Aussie about wine and you are in for a real treat. Australia and New Zealand produce some of the finest in the world. The exports to England exceed what England import from France! Bob - Original Message - From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Australians > I think Germany beats us. > > Regards > Paul, who doesn't drink beer > Melbourne, Aus > . > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:21 AM > Subject: Re: Australians > > > > I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on > > Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. > > > > Bill, KG4LOV > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a > > > stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English > > look > > > down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only > problem > > > was I wasn't a big drinker and they were. > > > Kent Gittings > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Re: Australians
Coming from a freedom loving gun happy culture like America I was wondering how the average Aussie perceives the latest police regs I saw posted from Australia. Seems to me here at least we would be up in arms if our government was given the police powers that yours are given. I realize a lot of it is based on English law (guilty until proven innocent) and not American law (innocent until proven guilty). Over here bumper stickers are a big form of political/social comment. In this realm a common one goes: "A man with a gun is a citizen" "A man without a gun is a subject" Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Australians Paul Jones wrote: > > I think that referendum for a republic was defeated due to the proposed > system that was put forward, not because we didnt want to become a republic. Yes, this was also played a big part in it. The republic model put forward was very wanting in democratic process. > Its kinda interesting to see how some people from other countries persieve > us. I am an Australian, I live in Byron Bay Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Australians
The Soviets were always at least a close 3rd when it came to alcohol abuse. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Australians Bill Owens wrote: > I've heard that Australia has the largest per capita beer consumption on > Earth. If so, they're my kind of folks. This is true some of the time, we do compete with the Germans on this. The under current of this is the large alcohol problem in australia, we also top the world in alcohol related crime and alcohol related illnesses eg liver disfunction. Last year I lost a dear friend, aged 40, who lost his battle with the bottle, he died on a Sydney street in the gutter. He new there was a better choice in life, but the bottle had him. I guess it was his choice, and lived his life as a tramp. None-the-less, he was a good friend. Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax Ads
Probably like the US. No beer drinker with any taste what so ever would drink the so-called "King of Beers" Budweiser. But enough advertising goes a long way towards selling a lot by making people think it taste like real beer. The Germans got it right with their beer purity laws. Can't even import the stuff there. This is the time of year we can get Samuel Adams Winter Lager. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Ads Very true > Oh, and the other thing my wife > constantly tells me is that Fosters is for export only. No Aussie in > his/her right mind would drink it! Anybody for a VB? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Australians
Actually I admire and respect them also. I personally think Paul was a stinker for that but I happen to like Steve Irwin. Anybody the English look down on is my type of people. Met several of them during Nam. Only problem was I wasn't a big drinker and they were. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Australians They hate Paul Hogan because he dumped his wife of 30-odd years for Linda Kazowlski (his co-star in Crocodile Dundee). I will not respond to the rest Kent because I admire and respect Australians and I won't get into a flame war about it. If you want to learn about the TRUE Australian psyche read "In a Sunburned Country" The book has good insight about how Aussies view themselves and their relationship to England and the world. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Kent Gittings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: RE: Pentax Ads > Aussies are notorious for hating any of their countrymen who actually make a > living at what they like doing. Especially if that fame is outside > Australia. And their wives aren't Aussie either (Paul's first was). > Check the history and you will find that the reason the British used the > Aussie troops in WWI at Gallipoli and in WWII in North Africa mainly is that > they were so hard to control and lacked military discipline that they wanted > to use them as far from the UK and their own units as possible. > Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Pentax digital SLR
If this is true the Olympus will have one big built in disadvantage that is the same one the Contax has. Because they are using a new lens line there are no used lenses available so initial costs will be extremely high. The entire advantage of a 35mm type lens mount digital camera is that lots of glass from old to new is available to use on it. No matter if the Contax has 6 MP and interchangeable lenses if the first lens you need to buy for your shooting costs you the camera plus an extra $2k it won't sell even in a 1:10 ratio to something like the EOS-1D which would allow somebody to get in at close to 1/2 the costs with several advantages depending on your type of shooting. If Olympus does do this it better be under $2k or they will be in the dead camera maker category in another 5 years just from the R&D costs if they can't sell enough of them. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Lawton Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Pentax digital SLR Several times now people have alluded to this Olympus interchangeable lens digital camera. Is there any information available on it? It seems like olympus might really have the upperhand hand here since (I assume) they will be designing an entirely new lens line specifically for digital - maybe even stardardizing on a less than full frame chip. Eric >From: Pål Audun Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Nothing of the sort. They did shelve the IS 300 because it wasn't >competitive (obsolete). They have release the Optio series which is highly >contemporary, competitive and far from obsolete. They same can be done for >digital slr's. Just look at Olympus soon to be released digital slr with >interchangeable lenses. It may set the standard. > > >Pål >- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax Ads
Aussies are notorious for hating any of their countrymen who actually make a living at what they like doing. Especially if that fame is outside Australia. And their wives aren't Aussie either (Paul's first was). Check the history and you will find that the reason the British used the Aussie troops in WWI at Gallipoli and in WWII in North Africa mainly is that they were so hard to control and lacked military discipline that they wanted to use them as far from the UK and their own units as possible. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Ads My wife is Australian and had no idea who Steve Irwin was until she moved to the US. Funny how two Aussies that are hated in their own country (Steve and Paul Hogan) have become icons in America... Oh, and the other thing my wife constantly tells me is that Fosters is for export only. No Aussie in his/her right mind would drink it! Anybody for a VB? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Paul Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:25 AM > > Subject: Re: Pentax Ads > > > > > > > i hadn't thought of it that way, as he being ours spokesman. > > > > > > I wonder if he is a decent photographer. i kinda doubt he is. > > > > > > I hope Americans dont see him as a Spokesman for Australia! > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:57 PM > > > Subject: Re: Pentax Ads > > > > > > > > > > My son (recently 5) loves to watch Irwin and I don't mind watching > > things > > > > bite him. I mentally retitle his show "Amazingly Dumb things to do > with > > > > Dangerous Animals". :-) But, hey, he's our spokesman now... (sort of) > > > > > > > > Dan Scott > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >I really disliked Steve Irwin and i think to most Australians he is > a > > > bit > > > > >of a joke. He's alot more popular in the US from what i see than here > > in > > > > >Aus. Now however I think i like him more since he shoots with Pentax > > :) > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > >Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PZ-1p vs. ZX-5n
The grip is the main reason I always gave the Z-1p a pass. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Seaman Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PZ-1p vs. ZX-5n Timothy, I bought a ZX-M soon after they were introduced, and I've had the same ZX-5 body for about 5 years. I just got a Z-1 a day or two ago, and haven't even had a chance to put film through it yet, but I can give some immediate impressions. The TTL flash was the main reason I replaced my Super-A with the ZX-5, and I haven't been disappointed. Of course there have been occasions where the shot has been under-exposed, but I can always see why it happened and why I should have dialed in some exposure compensation. A full 99% of the time, though, I just put it into spot metering mode and fire away, using a powerful AF-500FTZ because my subjects are often 30 feet or more away. I do a lot of nature photography (insects and birds and anything else which looks interesting), and I use an awful lot of flash, so I've had plenty of time to learn whether the metering is good or not. I can't comment on the flash metering accuracy of the Z-1, because I haven't used it yet, but the ZX-5 seems good. I got the Z-1 solely because it has the 1/250 flash sync, but if you're not doing the type of long-range nature photography I do then this is unlikely to be any better than the ZX-5's 1/100 flash. Two things stood out when I started handling the Z-1: (1) compared to a ZX-M or ZX-5, this is one bulky and heavy brute! I don't know the actual figures, but the ZX-5 seems only slightly heavier to me than the ZX-M; however, the Z-1 is much heavier. On the Z-1, the shutter release is located near the front of a very large grip which extends almost an inch forward from the camera body. I'm not sure how well I'll cope with this, because I have carpal tunnel problems in my right hand. Even for an unafflicted user, it's very bulky, though I'm sure not more than most Canon, Nikon and other cameras. Time will tell if this is a real issue for me, or not; (2) the Z-1 is far more complex and less intuitive to use than the ZX-5. The ZX-5 is virtually identical to the ZX-M, and has always had everything I wanted. Even setting the shutter speed on the Z-1 isn't obvious, though I'm sure I'll soon get used to it. Check to see whether any of the 18 Pentax Functions appeal to you, otherwise they won't add anything to your photographic experience. For myself, I can imagine using the Image Size Tracking feature, at least if I had a long auto lens to do it with! Of course the Z-1's extra size, weight and complexity do make one feel more professional and give one an undeniable ego boost ;^) You'll soon be winking as much as those LX users 8^O For you, a point in favor of the ZX-5 over the Z-1 is that the ZX-5 uses the same batteries as the ZX-M, whereas the PZ-1 uses a single 2CR5. If you continue to use the ZX-M, then you'll be buying and carrying two sets of batteries, plus spares. I focus manually even with my auto-focus lens (SMC Pentax-FA 100mm f2.8 and Sigma 15-35mm), so I can't comment on the auto-focus ability of any of these bodies - but I do know that the ZX-M is lousy at auto-focus, and the built-in flash isn't much good, either! As far as sturdiness is concerned, both the ZX-5 and the PZ-1p are much, much more solid than a ZX-M. I'm mostly thinking about the solidness of the body, but it's also true of the cosmetics - very soon after I got my ZX-M, fully one half of the right hand dial was blank, because the shutter speed numbers wore off! I'm also having to do some testing to see whether the mirror is locating properly, because it seems like I might be having trouble focussing accurately (I'm not sure if this is real or just imagined until I've completed the tests). I treat my equipment pretty roughly, backpacking it around the planet, throwing unpadded lenses and bodies together and so on, and in the five years I've had the ZX-5 I've never had any problems, apart from the 1/60th lens issue I mentioned in recent emails - and even that problem seems to have spontaneously vanished. My understanding is that the PZ-1P is in a different league than the ZX-5 for sturdiness, I think the PZ-1 has a metal body versus the ZX-5's polycarbonate, but I could well be wrong on that. But it doesn't really matter unless you're going to be extremely severe with the camera, because as I say, even the ZX-5 has taken an awful lot of punishment from me. I've put together a quick page with the three camera bodies on it, with comments, as well as the Pentax Function chart Bob kindly supplied to me: http://www.richard-seaman.com/Me/Photography/CameraBodies/index.html
RE: 135mm 1.8 or faster
Yes. Pentax made the A* 135/1.8 a very superb but pricey lens. Also in the 70-80's Sigma made a manual focus 135/1.8 in their XQ line that was available in PK mount. Sun/Polaris/Spiratone made/sold a giant 135/1.8 in the 70's with an 82mm filter size. It's the cheapest value if you can find them. McBroom's has the last one averaging between $125-175USD. The Sigma goes for around $300USD or so used. Neither of the others are close to the Pentax in absolute quality but they are all well built all metal lenses. I have 1 of the Sigma's in PK mount and 2 of the others (1 Polaris and 1 Spiratone) in M42 ES mount (all of these lenses are interchangeable YS mounts although the PK mount is factory installed only and can't be switched between lenses by a user like the rest of the YS mounts can). Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 135mm 1.8 or faster I am looking for 135mm lense, can be manual or AF I need one about f1.8, does such a creature exist? Kind regards Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Self enabled
Actually all three are quite good, however the reputation of the three from high to low is 62mm, 67mm, then F2.8-4. As a result the 62mm usually commands the higher price. I have a 67mm one in my screwmount collection and it is quite good. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Glover Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Self enabled The third version, the f/2.8-4.0, is the one I have and it is quite good lens. It seems to be very under-rated too from what I've read on Bob Monahagn's website (http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/third/cult.html#steve). I suppose that is because of the variable aperture perhaps. In any event, there is a good discussion of the Vivitar Series 1's lens and this web site gives a nice history of them.Anyone know where I SR1 200/3.0? :) John - Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Self enabled > > While browsing one of our local camera shops today I came across the > > Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 that's been on their website for several > > months. It so happened that the owner was available today and advised > > me he would sell it for $99.00 US. That was enough for me to do some > > self enabling, couldn't resist. > > Which version, Bill - the first-generation with the 67mm filter > threads, or the second-generation w/62mm (the version I used to use a > lot)? > > Fred > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Self enabled
Is it the 62mm or 67mm filter size version? Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Owens Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Self enabled While browsing one of our local camera shops today I came across the Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 that's been on their website for several months. It so happened that the owner was available today and advised me he would sell it for $99.00 US. That was enough for me to do some self enabling, couldn't resist. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
