Vs: Interesting OT: Aland and Finland (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion)
Motherland Sweden? Before Finland Aland belonged to imperial Russia. Most of nowadays so called micro states are very prosperous. Yes, and Aland developing to the direction of a tax haven is no exception. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 01. helmikuuta 2004 0:25 Aihe: Interesting OT: Aland and Finland (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion) From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually it was given to Finland by the League of Nations. That is correct. This was in June 1921, after Finland, having put the Aland Islands under military occupation, had declared that she wouldn't comply with any decision by the League of Nations, other than one which forced Aland and the Alanders under Finnish sovereignty, and that Finland, if she wouldn't have her way, would rather go to war to get it. (You could even say that it was England who by her influential position in the League of Nations gave Aland to Finland. If the wish of the Aland people would materialize - what possible consequences would such a precedent carry with regards to the British Empire, and not only to the Irish question.) There was no referendum but prominent Alanders were of the opinion that Aland should be given to Sweden and of course Sweden had nothing against it. It's true that there was no formal referendum, as we know it today. The reason for this was that Finland, subjecting Aland political leaders and spokesmen to political harrassments and illegal imprisonment, wouldn't allow the Alanders to conduct one, under threat of imprisoning those who asked for an internationally supervised referendum. However, the Alanders did cast votes. In June of 1919 96% of those casting their vote, by signing their names to a petition, voted for Aland to return to it's motherland Sweden. Present day Finnish history legend on the Aaland Island Question bears similarities to the Soviet-Russian history legend regarding those states which were forced under Soviet rule. The Soviet history writing basically said that only fascist elements opposed the free will of the people of those countries to join the Soviet Union. In Finland they say that only some prominent Alanders didn't want Aland to become Finnish, when in fact 96% voted for Sweden and against Finland. Anything but Finland declared the Alanders before the League of Nation. Even independence, although they knew it meant the greatest economic difficulties. Now it is a demilitarised area with quite extensive autonomy. Last time there was a poll about the matter the majority preferred to stay with Finland - no doubt because it is financially beneficial. Whether it is or not, is a matter of debate. The idea of an independent state with a population of a major village - 25000 - is, well ... interesting. I completely agree with you. Most of nowaday so called micro states are very prosperous. Lasse All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 31. tammikuuta 2004 19:17 Aihe: Re: Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion) Stan Halpin: Right. But If I say Aland, who but you and Anders would know what/where that is? If I just say Sweden, I am insulting Aland. I'd think that would be more insulting to Finland than to Åland, actually, since Åland formally is part of Finland and not Sweden, even though historically Åland has had closer ties to Sweden. Sometime in the early 1900's, a referendum was held on the island, where the inhabitants voted to belong to Sweden, but Finland claimed it anyway. Lasse, what is the current status on that? What do you ålänningar think nowadays? anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Vs: OT (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion)
Actually it was given to Finland by the League of Nations. There was no referendum but prominent Alanders were of the opinion that Aland should be given to Sweden and of course Sweden had nothing against it. Now it is a demilitarised area with quite extensive autonomy. Last time there was a poll about the matter the majority preferred to stay with Finland - no doubt because it is financially beneficial. The idea of an independent state with a population of a major village - 25000 - is, well ... interesting. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 31. tammikuuta 2004 19:17 Aihe: Re: Using multiple cameras and formats (wasRe: * ist DigitalQuestion) Stan Halpin: Right. But If I say Aland, who but you and Anders would know what/where that is? If I just say Sweden, I am insulting Aland. I'd think that would be more insulting to Finland than to Åland, actually, since Åland formally is part of Finland and not Sweden, even though historically Åland has had closer ties to Sweden. Sometime in the early 1900's, a referendum was held on the island, where the inhabitants voted to belong to Sweden, but Finland claimed it anyway. Lasse, what is the current status on that? What do you ålänningar think nowadays? anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
3.5/24 SMC Pentax
What´s the general opinion of this lens? I bought one quite cheaply, 50 Euros - the mount is strangely corroded but seems to work OK. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Vs: Vs: Vs: AF 280 mod/ LX fill flash
But without rangefinder coupling. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. tammikuuta 2004 23:05 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: AF 280 mod/ LX fill flash You missed my point. One can ignor the on lens focusing and build a focusing mount into the adapter. Only problem with that is you would need to match the adapter to a specific lens. However, that is all moot because Cotty has posted a link to a company that sells adapters that will do what the guy wanted. Raimo Korhonen wrote: You can try if you like. But remember that we are not talking about a simple adapter here, because the person I answered to suggested that it be rangefinder-coupled. It´s easier if you do not have to deal with a K mount lens barrel at first - so you can just put the proper inner sleeves and cams and it does not necessarily be that expensive - Voigtländer has done it at more reasonable prices. OK, it is technically possible to transfer the movement of the K mount lens group to the cam follower in the L mount camera´s throat but the follower is calibrated for the movement of the 50 mm lens. If the lens has longer or shorter focal length the movement has to be adjusted accordingly and each focal length would need an adapter of its own. No adapters I know exist for this. If it were easier I am sure somebody would have done it already. You can be the first! All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. tammikuuta 2004 20:36 Aihe: Re: Vs: AF 280 mod/ LX fill flash Wow! I wonder how Leica ever made their cameras work then. Oh! That must be why they are so expensive. Raimo Korhonen wrote: But machining the cam and proper linkages might be nearly impossible. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Vs: Vs: AF 280 mod/ LX fill flash
You can try if you like. But remember that we are not talking about a simple adapter here, because the person I answered to suggested that it be rangefinder-coupled. It´s easier if you do not have to deal with a K mount lens barrel at first - so you can just put the proper inner sleeves and cams and it does not necessarily be that expensive - Voigtländer has done it at more reasonable prices. OK, it is technically possible to transfer the movement of the K mount lens group to the cam follower in the L mount camera´s throat but the follower is calibrated for the movement of the 50 mm lens. If the lens has longer or shorter focal length the movement has to be adjusted accordingly and each focal length would need an adapter of its own. No adapters I know exist for this. If it were easier I am sure somebody would have done it already. You can be the first! All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. tammikuuta 2004 20:36 Aihe: Re: Vs: AF 280 mod/ LX fill flash Wow! I wonder how Leica ever made their cameras work then. Oh! That must be why they are so expensive. Raimo Korhonen wrote: But machining the cam and proper linkages might be nearly impossible. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Vs: VIRUS: Re: Pentax needs USM and IS
Well - it´s not always easy to see what´s pif and what´s not.
BTW I just received a mail from Bruce Dayton with Re: PUG deadlines as subject.
Looked suspicious.
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Aihe: Re: VIRUS: Re: Pentax needs USM and IS
At 02:08 PM 19/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Patrick White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FYI, this message had a virus attached (well, that's _my_
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If anyone opens a PIF file they asked for it!
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Vs: MZ-S' Select dial not smooth
Yes, it is a bit stiff - but if use your thumb only it moves better. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 18. tammikuuta 2004 3:05 Aihe: MZ-S' Select dial not smooth Is it a common occurence to find MZ-S Select Dial hard to move? Is there a cure? Andre
Vs: Cloudy filter
Check first - for BW cloudy could mean yellow - makes clouds stand out in BW. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 11. tammikuuta 2004 19:11 Aihe: Re: Cloudy filter OK, thanks ... so here's the next question: instead of running out to buy a few cloudy day filters, could similar results be gotten by using a warm film, like Ektachrome GX instead of G. Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: The K18/3.5 has a few built-in filters, as i imagine a few other lenses have as well. One is a cloudy filter. OK, I'm ignorant: what does a cloudy filter do? probably a warming filter, like a skylight 1B or an 81 series
Vs: NOT IST*D : Pradovit Color projector : value
Pradovits are good, sturdy projectors - Elmaron is not the best lens but it should be OK. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Ian bromehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 10. tammikuuta 2004 20:32 Aihe: NOT IST*D : Pradovit Color projector : value I suppose with all the digital usage these days, may slide projectors are busy gathering dust. I had an old projector bought a Boots in UK many many years ago. Well its slide holder broke into smithereens last month, so I started scanning for a replacement. Of course there's a dearth of commercial and industrial carousels going for a song, and I've read up on many threads and pdl care to take when choosing lens. I haven't settled on a choice as yet, but recently an offer came to me for an old but excellent Leitz (Leica) Pradovit Color Slide Projector with wired remote and a Leica Elmaron 100mm f/2.8 lens. I haven't seen these on ebay and I havent found anything through straight Forward googole searchs either. Do any of my fellow pentax-philes use such a beast ? Any advice and especially decent links where I might find ex prices, would be excellent. Many thanks Ian
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Yeah, she would - but that does not mean that it would be a better photograph. It would be a standard nondescript snapshot. You do not always have to follow every rule in the book. With shorter focal lengths (and look how short focal lengths the top photojournalists are using these days) you are drawn into the subject´s space and it gives the image more impact. And it does not actually distort the image, it´s called perspective and everybody is getting used to it. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 0:14 Aihe: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Nah, 50 mm at close up gives intimacy. ...and a black eye. Nobody likes their features, particularly noses, exaggerated. I don't buy it. I'm not saying that portraits can't be taken on *any* focal length. I shoot on a 38mm (equivalent) focal length quite regularly - but not on a tight head shot. Depends what you consider acceptable, of course, and I can't argue with that. What I can argue is that if you put that shot and a similar shot of longer focal length and ask her to pick one, she will choose the longer focal length with question. I would eat Frank's bunny ears if she didn't. ! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo it to flatter. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 1:24 Aihe: Re: 50mm Pentax Screwmount Didn't object to the 50mm, just that it was too close. Very unflattering, IMO ... the nose is way out of proportion to the rest of the face. Looking at it again there's something unsettling about it ... it's subtle, but it looks like the angle of the head is skewed just a scosh, and that adds a certain tension that's not appropriate for this type of portrait. graywolf wrote: Well I have some problems with it too. Focus seems to be on the cheek well forward of the eyes. It is a square picture, is it heavily cropped or did he lie about the format? However, I have no problem with the focal length, most 35mm shooters use is too long a lens for portraits anyway. I will admitt it is about as short as I would go though.
Vs: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
I fail to see the difference - you condemn the photo because it is UNflattering - you would accept it if it were flattering. O.E.D. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 16:22 Aihe: Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount I NEVER said that ... just that this particular photo is unflattering. Not at all the same thing. Raimo Korhonen wrote: Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo is to flatter. All the best!
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Yep. And I think the picture was OK - more than OK IMO. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 20:42 Aihe: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount Nah, 50 mm at close up gives intimacy. ...and a black eye. Nobody likes their features, particularly noses, exaggerated. I don't buy it. I'm not saying that portraits can't be taken on *any* focal length. I shoot on a 38mm (equivalent) focal length quite regularly - but not on a tight head shot. Depends what you consider acceptable, of course, and I can't argue with that. What I can argue is that if you put that shot and a similar shot of longer focal length and ask her to pick one, she will choose the longer focal length with question. I would eat Frank's bunny ears if she didn't. Yeah, she would - but that does not mean that it would be a better photograph. It would be a standard nondescript snapshot. You do not always have to follow every rule in the book. With shorter focal lengths (and look how short focal lengths the top photojournalists are using these days) you are drawn into the subject´s space and it gives the image more impact. And it does not actually distort the image, it´s called perspective and everybody is getting used to it. I don't follow every rule in the book, never have, never will. I have also used wide focal lengths for portraiture, so where's the problem? I'll write it again: depends what you consider acceptable. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Nah, 50 mm at close up gives intimacy. Nice sharpness and tonality. Good expression. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 07. tammikuuta 2004 22:54 Aihe: Re: 50mm Pentax Screwmount On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Check this out. Nice photo, nice model, nice lens. A Pentax lens on a Minolta Maxxum 7. What a combo. http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1120700 counting the seconds to Cotty's reply.. :-) Ryan Well, nice bird but I have to agree with Shel. Wrong focal length for a head shot. Not very flattering. Needs an 85 mil at least for this gorgeous lady... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Introductions ...
Hi all! I have been hanging around here for a very long time - and because I travel I have to unsubscribe from time to time - and sometimes I also re-introduce myself - but my site tells it all. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Vs: Carl Zeiss Lenses
There are many kinds on Carl Zeiss lenses - the current made in Japan ones and made in Oberkochen, Germany are excellent but some Carl Zeiss Jena (German Democratic Republic) were mediocre - to put it mildly - but even some of those were very good. So which one do you have in mind? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 03. tammikuuta 2004 2:26 Aihe: Carl Zeiss Lenses Just wondering if anyone has had experience with Carl Zeiss lens. How do they compare with Pentax and does anyone know where I might find reviews of them. Regards Charles
Vs: Sharpest Normal AF Zoom
I did get excellent results with the 4/28-70 Pentax - and it is not expensive. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Greg Lovern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopio: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 03. tammikuuta 2004 23:15 Aihe: Sharpest Normal AF Zoom What's the sharpest normal-range, autofocus, consumer, used zoom I can put on my ZX-L? From what I've read, it might be the FA 28-70 f4. Are there others I should consider instead? What about 3rd-party lenses? snip Many thanks for any suggestions. Greg
Vs: Sharpest Normal AF Zoom
I´d second that - but it is a bit expensive. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 03. tammikuuta 2004 23:23 Aihe: Re: Sharpest Normal AF Zoom On 3 Jan 2004 at 14:13, Greg Lovern wrote: What's the sharpest normal-range, autofocus, consumer, used zoom I can put on my ZX-L? From what I've read, it might be the FA 28-70 f4. Are there others I should consider instead? What about 3rd-party lenses? Are you aware of the SMC PENTAX-FA 1:3.5-4.5 24-90mm AL (IF) Zoom? It's pretty sharp for a zoom, has very good contrast and provides a very versatile zoom range. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Vs: A quick *ist D comment.
Yep, it works: I have been doing this for some time now and it is a good interim solution. And the lab I use scans slides as well if you order the processing done (in a different lab) so that the film is left uncut. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. joulukuuta 2003 2:48 Aihe: Re: A quick *ist D comment. Both Shel and Malcolm have not mentioned the combination of film and digital which I find most convenient - shoot on film and have it scanned at the time of development. I may be lucky in having a very high-quality one-hour lab within two minutes drive (or ten-minutes walking!) of where I both live and work, but I would urge those who want the best of both to seek out such a lab. I will probably get the *ist D (or it's successor) within the next twelve months, but at the moment I don't need to have a digital camera in order to have good quality scans available of every frame I shoot (in colour negative, anyway) very quickly. snip John Coyle Brisbane, Australia
Vs: another istD issue
You need a very ancient lens to have any uncoated elements. Ditto for filters. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. joulukuuta 2003 7:36 Aihe: Re: another istD issue Arnie, That's a ghost image, a reflection from the front surface of one of your lens elements onto the rear surface of the filter, and then back through the lens in parallel with the desired image. It is most pronounced when a lens has any uncoated elements, or the filter is uncoated. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: arnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] happy new year, guys so bought an ear syringe and puffed away at the sensor and managed to get most of the spots off, so i figure a little more huffing and puffing will blow the rest away. there is another issue i am having. when i take picture with a bright object in it, the object appears again rotated 180 degrees. for example www.xdstech.com/istd/imgp0382.jpg . this is the full size image just as it came off the camera. you can see the best buy sign and all the lights a second time. anyone know what could cause that? what should i do about it? thanks arnie
I´m off
Hi all, I´m off to Estonia. A week of relaxation - I hope - in a spa with the wife. Updated the site a bit - if anyone is interested. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Vs: 3 50mm lenses
Small differences. The El Cheapo 2/50 fares quite well. What aperture(s) did you use? Season´s greetings! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 25. joulukuuta 2003 6:19 Aihe: 3 50mm lenses Here are 3 images taken with the *istD at f4/750 All images use a polarisor, and my daughter grudgingly dragged herself from her new toys to stand in. 1) SMC Pentax FA 50mm 1:1.4-22 http://www.wildcherry.com.au/lens/FA50mm.jpg 2) SMC Pentax-A 1:2 50mm http://www.wildcherry.com.au/lens/A50mm.jpg 3) SMC Pentax-M 1:1.7 50mm http://www.wildcherry.com.au/lens/M50mm.jpg Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Vs: OT - Decerebrate Turnip
What is Berliner Weisse, then? Season´s Greetings! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 24. joulukuuta 2003 14:09 Aihe: Re: OT - Decerebrate Turnip There is a town in Southern Germany called, Wank. JFK got gently laughed at for his famous Ich bin ein Berliner line. (In German a Berliner is a doughnut.) It's a pity (insert name of least favourite politician here) doesn't go to Wank and tell the world what they already know. Peter - Original Message - From: Pat White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:38 AM Subject: Re: OT - Decerebrate Turnip Funny thing, that word wanker. In England, it's an fight-provoking insult. To a North American, the equivalent word would be jerk-off. Over here in Canada, the word wanker is an amusing British import used to mean twit, or something similar. It's not that offensive. A Toronto radio station with call letters CFNY, or NY for short, called their baseball team the NY Wankees, and their playing field Wankee Stadium. So there ya go. Pat White
Vs: Vs: OT - Decerebrate Turnip
You could not be more wrong - although wheat is correct. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 24. joulukuuta 2003 19:27 Aihe: RE: Vs: OT - Decerebrate Turnip Wheat flour used for making doughnuts? Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 What is Berliner Weisse, then? Season´s Greetings! Raimo
Vs: PDML - Meeting in Germany?
Eine gute Idee. Ob es wäre im April könnte ich auch teilnehmen. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Kristian-H. Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 22. joulukuuta 2003 22:20 Aihe: Re: PDML - Meeting in Germany? Hallo Bernd, mein Name ist Kristian-Heinrich Schuessler (eigentlich u Umlaut) und ich wohne in Baden-Württemberg, im Schwarzwald, im Mittleren Kinzigtal östlich von Strasbourg (Frankreich jenseits des Rheins) und Offenburg/Baden. Meine PENTAX-Kenntnisse reichen viele Jahre, eigentlich Jahrzehnte zurück von SPOTMATIKs über mehrere K2 und K2 DMD, nur eine LX, neueste Erwerbung MZ-3 mit Databack.Für die Bienen hätte ich einen Ringblitz. - Aber der Schwarzwälder Bote, für den ich fast jede Woche mehrere Aufträge erledige, besteht auf einer digitalen Camera und so habe ich heute (früher schwarz/weiß als Negativ-Film) eine OLYMPUS CAMEDIA 2500 L, die nervt, weil sie bei Reportagen so langsam ist. Mit Bienen direkt habe ich nichts zu tun, werde aber gelegentlich immer wieder zu Imker-Vereinen geschickt und bin nun als Naturwissenschaftler völlig über VAROA im Bilde. Für mich ist Paris und München gleich weit entfernt (400 km), aber Oer-Erkenschwig(wo sich drf meistens traf) schon sehr weit nördlich - wenn ich mir die Fahrstrecke so betrachte. In Oldenburg oder Bremen war ich noch nie, in Hamburg habe ich mal ein paar Jahre gewohnt und gearbeitet. Ein PDML-Meeting wäre sicher auch mal ganz interessant - dies zur Ergänzung Deiner Liste deutscher und NL-Teilnehmer. Fröhliche Weihnachten und einen guten Rutsch ins Neue Jahr Kristian-Heinrich - Original Message - From: Familie Scheffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: OT: PDML - Meeting in Germany? There are some more pentaxians from northern germany and from netherlands, too. So Munich (it is a very nice town, no doubt) may be a little southerly for a meeting. Arnold wohnt in Hamburg, Bojidar auch (soweit ich weiß), ich wohne in Hude (zwischen Oldenburg und Bremen), Frits und Jan in NL - aber einen Überblick und genauere Informationen habe ich eigentlich nicht. Bernd www.bienenbernd.de ---original message From: Katrin Subject: Re: Faces to names... Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:34:40 -0800 -- -- hm, I just don't have the impression that there are many germans on this list and I'm not very good in organising such things... but maybe I should just give it a try... *waveswithbothhands* anybody here who would be interested in a Southern Germany PDML meeting anytime soon? *lookshopefullyaround*^_- bye Katrin
Vs: push/pull colour neg film?
Actually this is not pushing or pulling - pushing is done with underexposure + increased development time, pulling by overexposure + decreased development - but with with current machinery this is not feasible for colour negative films. Colour negative films have incredible latitude towards overexposure and slight overexposure usually gives better results. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 16. joulukuuta 2003 13:21 Aihe: push/pull colour neg film? Was chatting away with Rob Studdert today, and together we raised an interesting issue - in light of the postings about pushing/pulling film these past few days, and their tolerance of standard processing etc, we were wondering if any of you had achieved successes in the same way by push/pulling COLOUR NEGATIVE film? ie. for eg. rating an ISO 100 speed film as 400 but processing it as normal ie as an ISO 100? let the discussion begin vbg tan.
Vs: Vs: push/pull colour neg film?
With BW film development time (or temperature) should be increased and labs usually charge for this - if you find a lab that will do it in the first place. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 16. joulukuuta 2003 19:26 Aihe: Re: Vs: push/pull colour neg film? On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Raimo Korhonen wrote: Actually this is not pushing or pulling - pushing is done with underexposure + increased development time, pulling by overexposure + decreased development So, assuming that we are talking about BW film, if I shoot a 400 at 800 should I advise the lab to push it (and pay a fee) or is what I did just exploiting latitude and needs no special care? Thanks, Kostas
Vs: Sigma 24-70 vs Tamron 28-75 XR Di
I have no experience of either lens but IMO 24 mm is very usable focal length. (And the 3.5-4.5/24-90 Pentax is an excellent lens.) All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 14. joulukuuta 2003 12:30 Aihe: Sigma 24-70 vs Tamron 28-75 XR Di Hi, I'm considering buying one of the following 2 lenses I would be interested in opinions for / aginst:, especailly from PDML memebers who have first hand experience using these lenses or preferably had the opportunity to compare them. I currently shoot with an MZ-S and I hope to get the *ist-D sometime in '04, so I want a lens that performs well both with a the *ist-D as well as the MZ-S. Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DG DF Tamron SP AF28-75mm F2.8 XR Di Would like to buy the FA* 28-70 F2.8 but can't afford it :-( Rgds Patrick
Vs: Question on Spotmatics
Yes, the first one was Electro Spotmatic but it was a Japan only preproduction model with only 2315 made while the ES reached 107925 and ES II 158709 (according to the Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw Mount Guide by Gerjan van Oosten. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 13. joulukuuta 2003 0:39 Aihe: RE: Question on Spotmatics No, the first camera WAS an electro-spotmatic. That was the model name and was ingraved in the body. The later cameras were ES and ESII they are different cameras from the original and are not electro-spotmatics. They are what they are: the ES and ESII. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Lewis Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on Spotmatics No such Camera? Well, maybe. The first one marketed in the USA was body-badged ES and the second model was badged ESII. In both cases the ES stood for Electro-Spotmatic. Lewis From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on Spotmatics Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:56:38 -0500 no such camera. there was an electro-spotmatic model and a different, later camera model, called the ESII. JCO --- -Original Message- From: Andy Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question on Spotmatics Anybody has the Pentax Eletro Spotmatic ESII? How is it like? Very curious Andy
Vs: OT:Weird names
Were 3 Stooges that old? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 11. joulukuuta 2003 22:34 Aihe: Vs: OT:Weird names Dewey, Cheatem Howe is from Leisure Suit Larry III. Remember those? All the best! Raimo Actually Dewey, Cheatem Howe was used in a 3 Stooges short back in the 30's or 40's Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Vs: Panorama project
Nah, this is not nice, it´s great. I just got back from St. Petersburg and this is better than the city itself ;-) Do you all use Macs because it is a bit dark on my screen? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. marraskuuta 2003 15:41 Aihe: Re: Panorama project On 29/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: My humble attempt at the same (has very little to do with Pentax though) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1942931size=lg Also very nice Mishka. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Vs: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited
Yeah, a lot but not in the Leica territory. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 30. marraskuuta 2003 16:31 Aihe: Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited - Original Message - From: Alan Chan Subject: Re: FA 31 mm 1.8 limited How does the FA 31 mm f/1.8 AL Limited perform It is a pretty sharp lens corners to corners wide open, signfiicantly sharper than the FA*24. One stop down it is super sharp. Although it is not a fair comparsion, but it is the sharpest lens I have owned so far. Quite possible one of the sharpest Pentax 135 lenses too. and is it worth buying at $860.00 US. Probably not when FA28/2.8 FA35/2 are a lot cheaper, but heck, do you really care when you just wanted one? :-) I just recently checked into the pricing of this lens. The local shop wanted Can$1500.00 for it NIB. From that POV, US$860.00 is probably not out of line, though that is a lot of money to pay for a lens for a 35mm camera. William Robb
Winder ME II
Tried to unload it through eBay with first bid at 35 USD - no takers. It is in excellent condition. Does anybody here want it? Make an offer, I really want to get rid of it. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Vs: The morality of taking a photograph
This is social documentary. Totally acceptable, in the right context even highly commendable. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. marraskuuta 2003 18:04 Aihe: The morality of taking a photograph Hi gang, Notice I said taking, for this photo wasn't offered, and the shutter was tripped surreptitiously. The woman had no idea that I was going to take this picture of her. I have mixed feelings about this shot. On the one hand it seemingly reflects an aspect of American culture, yet, on the other hand, it's not a very complimentary portrait, and one could argue that it in some ways denigrates the subject. Is food the problem, or perhaps a medical condition? Am I being judgmental or just recording a scene? Having battled weight problems throughout my life, I'm somewhat sensitive to this woman's situation. Still, the photo does, IMO, tell a story ... and perhaps asks a question or two. My question to the list: Should this photo have been taken? Do you think it is overly critical of the subject or sympathetic, or perhaps judgmental? Maybe I'm being critical of myself, using the photo to work through or better understand my own situation and problems. See for yourself, and share your thoughts: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/bigeater.html shel
Vs: 43/1.9 w viewfinder on Japan site
All Barnack Leica clones had the 39 mm Leica thread mount, including Canon and Soviet types. Currently only Voigtländer Bessa-R has this mount as Bessa-L has been discontinued. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 19. marraskuuta 2003 1:27 Aihe: RE: 43/1.9 w viewfinder on Japan site Now that is something new to me. I did not know Pentax made a Special Limitied 43 to fit a Leica rangefinder. Is the Leica thread mount shared with any other cameras? -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 43/1.9 w viewfinder on Japan site Oh that! That is the 35mm camera, a Leica screw mount. Hard to tell just which one underexposed like it is, maybe a B or C (sold as a II or III in the US) from the 20's and 30's. The one on the second page looks like a later model (IIIc or IIIf?). -- Mark Stringer wrote: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/catalog/ I was looking at the 43/1.9 limited and it shows it with viewfinders for a rangefinder camera also shown in the background. What camera is this? Mark Stringer
Vs: A conversation with Noritsu.
I have thought that it is a Philips patent. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 19. marraskuuta 2003 2:37 Aihe: Re: A conversation with Noritsu. the CD came out just before 1980. it was very expensive at first and just for show. i attended some of the Sony seminars when they were first coming out. you couldn't buy anything at a record store until about 1982 though. i would not be surprised to see ISO 800 color print film be about the only easily obtainable color one. Herb... - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: A conversation with Noritsu. Her opinion is that digital will replace film, in much the same way that the compact disc replaced long play records, and that it will happen at a very fast pace. IIRC, the compact disc came out in around 1984 or so, and records were pretty much history by the early 1990s. Film's days may be severely numbered.
Vs: A classic reborn
A tie with Alpa. But Pentax Spot-Matic was first but did not reach the market fast enough. Do we see something similar now? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 19. marraskuuta 2003 20:20 Aihe: Re: A classic reborn Wasn't the Topcon the first 35 slr that had BTL metering? Jim A. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:16:00 -0800 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A classic reborn Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:11:11 -0500 Seems that there is more to photography than high-end, fully-featured, multi-mega-pixel DSLR's these days. Cosina has launched their 20th Century Collection and now's your chance to grab a very fine prime lens from a time long, long ago ... perfect lens for those tied dyed moments Actually, the Topcon was a fine camera, and the optics were pretty good, iirc. http://www.cosina.co.jp/topcor/index.html shel (typing by the light of an original Lava Lamp)
Vs: Motorcycles
Moto Guzzi built a 500 cc V8 GP racer in the fifties - a replica of which is shown at bike events now. In the fifties it must have been really exotic. Drysdale´s efforts seem to progress very slowly. Has he actually sold anything? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 16. marraskuuta 2003 16:33 Aihe: Re: Motorcycles (was Re: Re Bills Chili-was: I feel like Mike Johnston) Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe Jay Leno (Tonight Show host) has a motorcycle built around a helicopter turbine engine. They run about $250,000 http://motorcyclecity.com/turbine.htm You can't top the Australians when it comes to building amazing custom motorcycles. There is one 2000cc v-twin made by lopping the front two cylinders off a Rolls-Royce Merlin aircraft engine! And another made by taking the cylinders and heads from two Yamaha FZR400s and grafting them onto a custom crank and crankcase to make an 800cc V-8. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Vs: Vs: Motorcycles
The best answer so far. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 16. marraskuuta 2003 18:19 Aihe: Re: Vs: Motorcycles Leaves an interesting question doesn't it? It is probably a Rolls-Royce built Allison turbine, or an Allison built Rolls-Royce turbine. They have been building each others designs since WWII. I have heard that GM sold their Allison Division to somebody, but then I have heard that RR has been sold to Ford. It is hard to figure out who makes what and who owns what in this age of sell-offs, buy-offs, and mergers. Oh yes, I have also heard tht RR sold off its aircraft engine manufacturing opperation to someone (maybe Allison?). How is that for a non-answer? -- Raimo Korhonen wrote: Does Rolls-Royce own Allison now or vice-versa? And the writer does not seem to know that jet fuel is kerosene. Im not yet ready to change my Guzzi. All the best! -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Vs: FA28-105/3.2-4.5
I hope you are right - but the 24-90 mm is very good indeed. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 14. marraskuuta 2003 20:31 Aihe: Re: FA28-105/3.2-4.5 As reviewed some time ago in Popular Photography, it is inferior to the excellent FA 24-90. This is reflected in the difference in their prices. Pentax prices lenses according to their quality. Joe
Vs: *ist 35mm
Hi! Theres something weird in this mail of yours. It tries to open a file iejit.htm. Is it a virus or what. I think originates from Boris. Has anybody else seen it? All the best! Raimo Photos at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:16 AM Subject: Re: *ist 35mm - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: *ist 35mm Hi! The two chassis are not the same size, and share no common parts. What we are seeing is a family resemblance. As another example, I noticed the other day that a particular Ford automobile seemed to have the same general nose shape as an F150 truck, although there would be no common body parts between the two vehicles William Robb That's funny, because I was under impression that *ist and *istD have something in common by development. This does not necessary has to be common chassis, but I thought that they are closer to one another than just two family resemblant members... But I suppose here is where my mileage varied... I was speaking purely of the two chassis'. I am sure there are common parts on the two cameras. As far as product development goes, I suspect that the same styling team did the body design. William Robb
Vs: [OT] Oly E1 in shops...
Hi! PopPhoto has tested it in November 2003 issue - they did not like it. At least that is my interpretation of the text. All the best! Raimo Photos at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Oly E1 in shops... Oh yes, a warning, Broadway Photo has absolutely the worst reputation of any mail order camera dealer in the world. Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: E1 appeared in internet shops. Price is equal to *istD :-( http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=ole1 And let's not forget that Oly is sealed construction altogether with dedicated lenses and it is aimed at professionals. I suspect prices on *istD and some other DSLRs will have to drop down soon... Having to buy DSLR now, I would probably seriously consider E1 with a lens like 14-54/2.8-3.5. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Vs: Cyrrilcs in my messages...
Hi! OK, now I understand - but this message has Cyrillic letters and it does not want to open iejit.htm. Good to know it is not a virus. All the best! Raimo Photos at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Cyrrilcs in my messages... Hi! On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:42:56 -0600 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boris' emails are sent in Cryllic. I believe thatr is the source of your concern. William Robb Please don't be alarmed. From my office I am using __web__ interface of one of my free web e-mails. As usual it adds a little something at the end of the e-mail, just like Yahoo! mail or other such service does. As long as you can see whatever I am writing in English, please just disregard the cyrrilics. If there're attachments, don't open them. I apologize for inconvenience. Boris _ Personal Pro + $85 http://www.kaspersky.ru/offer/
Vs: Old lenses, *istD, and the Pentax Mad Scientists
Hi! MZ-S prints exposure data on the film between the sprocket holes - easy to retrieve. All the best! Raimo Photos at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - Original Message - From: Dave Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:09 AM Subject: Re: Old lenses, *istD, and the Pentax Mad Scientists One really nice thing about digital photography as far as the educator is concerned is that the camera records all the settings along with the image. With a conventional film camera there's no way that anyone can tell whether I was using an auto-exposure mode or doing things manually. (That's why many photography courses ban the use of automatic cameras). With a digital system the evidence is stamped into the image. If memory cards are collected in the field at the end of the exercise it's going There is at least one 35mm camera that does imprint the film negative with a number and keeps a record of all the settings used for each negative corresponding to that image. I'm not sure if it records whether or not the mode the camera was in or not. Unfortunately it's not a pentax, but rather a Minolta Maxxum 7. However getting the same record out of the camera in print for a couse instructor would be impossible I fear unless there is more to that function then I realise. Just a bit of trivia and possibly something Pentax might consider for their future film cameras. David
Vs: We need a theme song!
Hi! Bei mir bist du schön - I think you are beautiful. All the best! Raimo Photos at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - Original Message - From: Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 2:05 PM Subject: We need a theme song! I propose: Bei mir ist d schoen Any other ideas?
Vs: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...
Hi! I am pretty sure that GM owns Isuzu or a large part of it. My Opel (a GM car) has diesel engine built by Isuzu - in Japan or Austria, hard to tell. Now Isuzu makes diesels for European GM cars in Poland, too. All the best! Raimo Photos at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ... Uh, Bill, I hate to burst your bubble, but Isuzu isn't an American car, and it isn't a GM car. GM doesn't build transmissions. They buy them from suppliers, same as Isuzu. It might be the same trans that GM uses, but it's not their part. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ... I still want to hear about that tranny! g Well, the GM built tranny in my Isuzu went south after less than 100,000 km (thats 62,500 miles for the metrically impaired). Cost two and a half grand to fix. I was mighty impressed. Apparently, it's the same unit they put into one of the Cadillacs. When the well fills up again, I am going to buy another made in Japan Nissan. The Nissan Axxess was the best car I have ever owned. William Robb
Vs: sometimes it just weighs too much
Sigma - especially the 4-5.6/70-300 DL macro is quite good, the APO is only slightly better and more expensive. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 24. syyskuuta 2003 5:15 Aihe: sometimes it just weighs too much i am considering the FA 80-320 lens as a lightweight alternative to carrying around my FA* 80-200 f2.8. how much will i be losing? i think that my FA 24-90 is about as low quality as i want to go. are there other auto focus 80-200 or somewhat longer lenses worth considering? Herb
Vs: OT I´m back
Yep, I remember those. I even tried one - but IIRC the lens was not that good. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. syyskuuta 2003 0:45 Aihe: Re: OT I´m back Raimo, 6400km on a motorcycle? Take a Pentax PC35AF along... old but good quality. Regards, Bob S. From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I´m back from my little Moto Guzzi motorcycling vacation - the turning point was Cracow, ...during the trip my only camera was the trusty Rollei 35 S which turned out to be not so trusty: the button which releases the lens to retract dropped off in Cracow, never to be found. I could take photos but the lens would not retract (but when motorcycling I tend to make very few photographs). I´m thinking I need a new camera for such trips. Perhaps the new Pentax compact which has the 24-105 lens? Opinions?
OT I´m back
Hi all! I´m back from my little Moto Guzzi motorcycling vacation - the turning point was Cracow, one of my very favourite cities. The route was Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland (the traffic there is outrageous), Germany, Denmark, Sweden and back to Finland, 6400 km. Why OT? Because during the trip my only camera was the trusty Rollei 35 S which turned out to be not so trusty: the button which releases the lens to retract dropped off in Cracow, never to be found. I could take photos but the lens would not retract (but when motorcycling I tend to make very few photographs). I´m thinking I need a new camera for such trips. Perhaps the new Pentax compact which has the 24-105 lens? Opinions? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
I´m off!
Hi all, for the next 2 weeks or so I´ll be doing some motorcycling and cannot be sure if I can access my mailbox so I unsubscribe. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Vs: OT: Car keys - WAS Survival Kit
Nope - the last VW Beetles were produced in Mexico - and the production ended only a couple of weeks ago. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 03. syyskuuta 2003 16:46 Aihe: Re: OT: Car keys - WAS Survival Kit All very true, Cotty. But then by the same standards the Jeep dates back to 1941 and has been in production longer than the Land Rover. Also as Bill Robb says the VW bug simply moved production to Bazil when aircooled engines became evironmentally unfriendly and continued production there until very recently. That makes the comments in the article that started all this simply wrong, the Land Rover has not been in production longer than any other car. However, I have to agree with the other part of the article a DB5 with the Zagoto body is still one of the most sexy sports cars of all time. Ciao, Graywolf -- - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:46 AM Subject: Re: OT: Car keys - WAS Survival Kit The first Land Rover (80) was a rebodied US Military Jeep. The Landrover 88 was the first with its own chassis. The Defender is a (somewhat) look alike that has nothing in common with the original. By that standard the current Jeep has be in production since 1941 Graywolf, A few points of clarification sir. Yes, the very first LR was based on a jeep chassis (note no capitalisation of jeep - didn't become a trade name until much later). But when it went into production, the chassis were made by Rover to their own design, based on the jeep chassis. In that respect the jeep chassi was used as the basis of the LR chassis. I'm not sure what you mean by 'with its own chassis'. The Series 1 was built using its won chassis. If you took the body off a Series 1 LR and tried to mount a jeep body onto it with no modifications, it would not fit. In my book that means the LR had its own chassis. The Defender is almost identical in design,both in body and chassis to the originals. The major differences are: coil springs instead of leafs, and full-time 4WD instead of part-time 4WD, although the earliest S1s did have full-time 4WD I believe. The way the body is designed is the same: bulkhead seperating engine bay and driver, rear body tub, aluminium panels. Sure there are things like power assisted brakes / steering / ABS / etc but these owe nothing to the original design - they have changed over the years without the design changing at all. This makes for difficult situations - shoe-horning the V8 into the relatively small engine bay is always tricky. Heck, my Defender had Electronic Traction Control the same as the top of the line Range Rover, but I'll bet it was prised into place ;-) The Land Rover owes its heritage to the Willys jeep, it is true and undisputed, and respectfully acknowledged, but after the best parts of the design were incorporated into the LR, it then became a vehicle in its own right and evolved from there. Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 8/28/03
Vs: (Pentax) No Subject
OK, I will try it - but my solution is even simpler. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 02. syyskuuta 2003 20:35 Aihe: Re: (Pentax) No Subject In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raimo Korhonen) wrote: I´d like to raise again the issue of something like Pentax or PDML to the subject line of PDML messages. This time we all get so many suspicious e-mails with or without viruses so it would be easier to separate our genuine messages from those. I just have my mail client sort messages that are addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] into a folder. Works well, and saves confusion. --- John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vs: Re: blackout
IIRC the town is Ceske Budejovice. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 18. elokuuta 2003 9:22 Aihe: Re: Re: blackout Fra: Dan Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Plzen is in the Czech Republic and the home of modern beer. Pilsner Urquell is the brand name, and its very good as imported into the US,but simply unequalled over there. The original Budweiser from Budvar is also very good. DagT
Vs: *ist D figures
You are talking about the rangefinder-Nikon era. Leica M3 corrected that in 1954 but in 1959 Nikon F turned the tables again. At that time Pentax was an established pro SLR and if they had switched to bayonet earlier it may or may not have made the difference - but this was 6 years before Spotmatic. Pentax never made rangefinder cameras so Pentax was in a different picture. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 16. elokuuta 2003 2:41 Aihe: Re: *ist D figures - Original Message - From: whickersworld Subject: Re: *ist D figures Surely the problem was more related to Pentax's extreme tardiness in adopting a bayonet mount? Photojournalists, who had previously used Spotmatics, got fed up with dropping their screw mount lenses and missing shots and deserted 'en masse' to Nikon - and the rest is history. Despite the brave LX (a fine effort), Pentax has never seriously addressed the 35mm pro market since then, and are unlikely ever to again. Actually, photojournalists who had previously used Leica discovered Nikon during the American occupation of Japan, and into the Korean war. Pentax was never in the picture. William Robb
Vs: Vs: *ist D figures
Yep. But no more Pentaxes at that time :-( All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 16. elokuuta 2003 14:55 Aihe: Re: Vs: *ist D figures Hi, Raimo, There was some overlap in the rangefinder era to the slr era for pj's, though. For instance, Tom Ut, when he took the iconic photo of Kim Phuc running from the temple after being napalmed, took it with a Leica M3, with a 35mm lens. He also had at least one Nikon F around his neck for longer lenses. I read somewhere that during the Vietnam War, most photojournalists working for Western news services were issued Nikons, but often purchased Leicas on their own, for use with shorter lenses (usually 35mm). I guess that in pre-zoom days, when at least two, often three bodies were hung around the neck, at least one lighter body would be a relief. cheers, frank Raimo Korhonen wrote: You are talking about the rangefinder-Nikon era. Leica M3 corrected that in 1954 but in 1959 Nikon F turned the tables again. At that time Pentax was an established pro SLR and if they had switched to bayonet earlier it may or may not have made the difference - but this was 6 years before Spotmatic. Pentax never made rangefinder cameras so Pentax was in a different picture. All the best! Raimo -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Vs: Scotland pics up
Good read Cotty - now when it is all in one place and with pictures. Thanks! Makes one envious. But Confucius says: Woman worth weight in gold probably cost as much. BTW any chance of a PDML meet in the mainland Europe in September? Poland or Germany? Now when my arm is healed enough (I hope) I am planning a motorcycle ride around the Baltic Sea again and it would be nice to meet some PDMLers along the way. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 16. elokuuta 2003 13:34 Aihe: Scotland pics up Scotland as you've never seen it, featuring Jostein, Mike W, Gianfranco and a cast of thousands. Available with Norwegian subtitles and in braille for the visually challenged (that's me after staring at a monitor for 12 hours). Pics might be a little on the dark side when seen on a PC but hey it hides the mistakes. Web site: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps navigate towards Photo Essays, then Scotland, or direct link: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/photoessays/scotlandday1.html Warning: there's 7 pages of it - make a cup of tea first. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Vs: PDML meet (Was Vs: Scotland pics up)
Sweden is possible, I´m planning to return home via Sweden. I have to check my calendar which is in my computer at work. But Sweden is so close I could be there anyway. Any Swedes interested? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 16. elokuuta 2003 21:37 Aihe: Re: PDML meet (Was Vs: Scotland pics up) How about a bit further north? I will be in Sweden in late September, with time the weekends of 20-21 Sept and 27-28 Sept. Linkoping or Stockholm. Maybe in Oslo that second weekend, but probably Stockholm. Stan on 8/16/03 2:45 PM, Raimo Korhonen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good read Cotty - now when it is all in one place and with pictures. Thanks! Makes one envious. But Confucius says: Woman worth weight in gold probably cost as much. BTW any chance of a PDML meet in the mainland Europe in September? Poland or Germany? Now when my arm is healed enough (I hope) I am planning a motorcycle ride around the Baltic Sea again and it would be nice to meet some PDMLers along the way. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Vs: help with choosing a camera
Hi Terhi, MZ-S is great. There´s a short evaluation on my site. I like it, it has grown on me. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Terhi Toivola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 15. elokuuta 2003 8:18 Aihe: help with choosing a camera hi all, I'm an intermediate amateur (not quite advanced yet, neither beginner anymore) photoaddict in the need of a new (film, not digital) camera. I have a p50/p5 and some manual focus lenses (20-80 zoom, 50-mm and a sigma macro), which I would, of course, like to use with the new body too. I usually shoot still-life, portaits etc., not very much anything with a lot of action, possibly because I'm finding it a bit difficult with manual focus... also I'm getting a bit tired of dragging the heavy p50 around, and its poor ergonomy and lack of a flash. I'm wavering in hesitation between MZ-S, *ist and PZ-1P - opinions please? Other suggestions? My budget is max 1000 with a simple lense, 50 mm perhaps as the old one is not very good. I dream of a 100 mm macro, but I suspect that's far out of my budget... I would like the camera be solid to hold, not too light and flimsy, and with a good bight viewfinder, hopefully suitable for person wearing glasses. Also I need a flash, but later on when I manage to raise the funds for that. Until then, the built-in will have to do. However, suggestions are welcome. I don't really understand much of flashes, so I would be perfectly happy with a point-and-shoot type, and if it works with the old p50 all the better. Terhi -- * Terhi Toivola (M.Sc.) Researcher National Public Health Institute Department of Environmental Health Laboratory of Environmental Microbiology P.O. Box 95 FIN-70701 Kuopio Finland + 358 (0)17 201 159 (work) + 358 (0)50 3663 462 (cellular) Fax: + 358 (0)17 201 155 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
Vs: OT:voigtlander bessa/wides
I have the 4.5/15 and it is very good. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Clive evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. elokuuta 2003 14:15 Aihe: OT:voigtlander bessa/wides Hi all More heresy I have recently bought a voigtlander bessa with 35, 50 and 21mm lenses. Thinking about the 15mm and/or 12mm, anyone out there own/have experience of these? Best Clive Antibes France ps If Voigtlander produces the bessaflex in Kmount will REALLY be worth a look.
Vs: ? on A35-105, 3.5
It is a good deal. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 03. elokuuta 2003 2:07 Aihe: ? on A35-105, 3.5 I have the opportunity to buy a 35-105, 3.5 in mint right out of the box Still in the box, Never used. For Cdn 250.00 Seems like a good deal to me. Opinions... Vic
Vs: Congrats to Cotty!!!
Well - the most common cause of divorces is marriage. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. heinäkuuta 2003 23:20 Aihe: Congrats to Cotty!!! Gang, Cotty got himself married today. The first official image can be found at: http://www.oksne.net Click the Scotland link, and you're there. The image is taken with a Optio S. There will be more official pics later, but they have to be processed first; taken with a 645NII on portra 400VC. Cheers, Jostein (the proud photographer) -- Photos at: http://www.oksne.net AutoPug author. Submit your images at: http://www.oksne.net/autoPug/PugForm.asp
Vs: A Leica for Cesar
The number of bids says it all. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 29. heinäkuuta 2003 13:36 Aihe: OT: A Leica for Cesar http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2942889046category=30030 vbg -ciao, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Vs: Vs: OT - comments requested
Nose looks better here but otherwise the first one was better. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 27. heinäkuuta 2003 14:51 Aihe: Re: Vs: OT - comments requested Hi, Raimo, I ~usually~ can pan race cars and the like. But, this girl was so short, I think I was moving the camera down and across, both panning and framing at the same time (that photo was uncropped, except to fit it into an 8x10 format). Here's the scan from the contact: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=161size=lg At least I got her centred! vbg Thanks for your comments. Her nose ~does~ have that Michael Jackson look in the photo, doesn't it? vbg thanks, frank Raimo Korhonen wrote: Panning is a difficult technique and you got it right - almost. The nose seems a little deformed, could be corrected with judicious application of Photoshop. Good to see someone trying something different. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Vs: Vs: OT - comments requested
Nose looks better here but otherwise the first one was better. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 27. heinäkuuta 2003 14:51 Aihe: Re: Vs: OT - comments requested Hi, Raimo, I ~usually~ can pan race cars and the like. But, this girl was so short, I think I was moving the camera down and across, both panning and framing at the same time (that photo was uncropped, except to fit it into an 8x10 format). Here's the scan from the contact: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=161size=lg At least I got her centred! vbg Thanks for your comments. Her nose ~does~ have that Michael Jackson look in the photo, doesn't it? vbg thanks, frank Raimo Korhonen wrote: Panning is a difficult technique and you got it right - almost. The nose seems a little deformed, could be corrected with judicious application of Photoshop. Good to see someone trying something different. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Vs: Vs: Vs: OT - Brit and proud
OK, here´s another one: History is bunk. Henry Ford All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Dan Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 27. heinäkuuta 2003 23:15 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: OT - Brit and proud Don't believe everything you read, Raimo. Making blanket characterizations of any nationality is dangerous, and usually reveals more that one wishes about one's self. Raimo Korhonen wrote: This is not the final judgement, no way. But it is obvious that the average American does not know much about history - average American defined by types like George W. Bush and Donald Rumsfeld.
Vs: Vs: Vs: Vs: OT - Brit and proud
Making blanket characterizations of any nationality is dangerous, and usually reveals more that one wishes about one's self. As to the business acumen of George W. Bush - there is not much evidence of it. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Dan Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 27. heinäkuuta 2003 23:31 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Vs: OT - Brit and proud Of course, only in the US to fathers help their sons in business. Raimo Korhonen wrote: I do not know much about Rumsfeld but George W. Bush indeed made a successful business career - made possible by the help of his father. All the best!
Vs: Vs: Vs: OT - Brit and proud
I do not know much about Rumsfeld but George W. Bush indeed made a successful business career - made possible by the help of his father. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. heinäkuuta 2003 12:50 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: OT - Brit and proud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it is obvious that the average American does not know much about history - average American defined by types like George W. Bush and Donald Rumsfeld. Raimo, If you put aside their political beliefs (which you do not care for), you will see they are better, more accomplished men than you can hope to be. Both have been very successful in business and public service long before they reached their current positions. You would do well to study their personal history before making foolish remarks. Regards, Bob S.
Vs: OT - Brit and proud
You state your point very clearly - so it´s hard to believe that some fail to understand it. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. heinäkuuta 2003 17:47 Aihe: Re: OT - Brit and proud Hi Dan, on 25 Jul 03 you wrote in pentax.list: If you believe that, there's a nice bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell to you . . . Heiko Hamann wrote: ??? I'm quite sure that the historical looking back in Germany is on a higher and more objective level than in other countries. I'm very disappointed of the development of this thread. I didn't say that Germany has a better education system than other countries or the USA (some people seem to _want_ to read it so). But some people still come back on WWII, nazis etc. if they hear Germany and they even want to explain me that we don't know our history and that it is even prohibited by law to learn about certain historical facts... That's all absolute bullshit, but it seems that it is not possible to talk in a sensible way about it. The irony is, that I have eplained my solidarity with the US and UK soldiers in the Iraq and now have to defend against anti-German cliches. Thanks. This is my personal EOD. Cheers, Heiko
Vs: OT - Brit and proud
Well - at least compared with USA Heiko is right. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Dan Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 25. heinäkuuta 2003 19:53 Aihe: Re: OT - Brit and proud If you believe that, there's a nice bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell to you . . . Heiko Hamann wrote: ??? I'm quite sure that the historical looking back in Germany is on a higher and more objective level than in other countries.
Vs: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic
The first camera with pentaprism was Contax S of 1949 by Zeiss Ikon, Dresden. This developed into Contax D with automatic diaphragm actuation, although officially the first model to have this was Contax F. There were indeed cameras called Pentacon in the fifties but these were similar to the East German Contax SLRs - first Pentacon was the same as Contax D. There were also names like Hexacon and Consul and Ritacon and probably other names as well. Curiously it is not easy to find cameras made after the formation of Pentacon with the name Pentacon - they all seem to be Prakticas. The SLR with optical viewfinder was Praktina IIa. The information above is based on McKeowns Price Guide to Antique Classic Cameras, edition 1995-1996. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. heinäkuuta 2003 17:01 Aihe: Re: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic I recall Pentacon from long before 1964. In fact I do believe Pentacon was the camera that actually was a contraction of Pentaprism and Contax. I remember them as having both a pentaprism and an optical viewfinder (possibly why the combined names). I believe they were the first SLR with a Pentaprism. I also seem to recall that they had a bayonet lensmount similar to the Contax. I think they were part of Zeiss before WWII, but were separated in the split up of Germany after the war. As I recall the Pentacon was more expensive than the Praktica. I do not doubt that several of the East German companies were combined in the 1960's. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:40 AM Subject: Vs: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic Praktica was originally made by Kamera Werkstatten at first in Dresden, then in Niedersedlitz (wherever that may be) - Pentacon was formed later in 1964 by joining together several (five?) East German state-owned camera manufacturers, from 1959 under the name of VEB Kamera und Kinowerke Dresden. The Praktica factory seems to exist at Niedersedlitz and belongs to the former owners, the Noble family - they make Noblex panoramic cameras. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. heinäkuuta 2003 2:34 Aihe: Re: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic I wonder if there's some confusion between Pentax and Pentacon (who made Praktica). Maybe because they were the last two manufacturers who used m42 or something. Anyway, I believe that Pentacon is PENTAprism and CONtax joined together. Makes sense, as they're both German companies. But, I've never heard that the name Pentax was a Contax trademark. cheers, frank Albano Garcia wrote: Is this true? Even the Pentax name was originally a Zeiss Ikon VEB trademark until bought by Asahi. Itwas originally derived from PENTaprism and contAX. from the cited below website Regards Albano --- Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dario, I went to the site you show below, and found the Deckel mount, that will allow my M-42 Pentax bodies to use my lovely Retina II/IIIS lenses! I've been hesistating selling them, simply because they were so perfect, but the nearly brand new Retina Reflex III has a disabled shutter (what eise is new, huh?) Now, with the Deckel adapter, I could use all of my Retina Reflex lenses! Excellent! But, do I want to spend $250 for that privilege? That's one steep adapter! Nah, I think maybe I'll sell the lenses... and the camera. keith whaley Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: Of course, I'm also expecting high-quality screw mount lenses, to be added to that bunch of Takumars and C.Z. Jena glass here and there... Bye, Dario - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic Not sure if anybody alse already pointed it out here on the list... So, at long last, they did it. The SLR which became a rangefinder has turned back into a SLR. Now it's just like an original Spotmatic, including the M42 screw mount, the stop-down swich on left side of the mirror box and the optional accessory shoe. See the new Voigtlaender Bessaflex at: http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtFlexTM.htm Bye, Dario Bonazza www.dariobonazza.com = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi
Vs: 24-90 or 28-105?
3.5-4.5/24-90 mm any time. 24 is an extremely useful focal length and the quality is outstanding. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: talampaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 19. heinäkuuta 2003 0:06 Aihe: 24-90 or 28-105? Hi all, A friend of mine has bought a MZ-3 body, and now he does desire to buy a FA zoom. He asked me to help him to choose between the FA 28-105 f/3.2 - 4.5 IF AL and the FA 24-90 f/3.5 - 4.5 IF AL. I'm a Pentax user and collector, but my interest is only in manual focus bodies anf prime lenses, so I cannot be very useful in this task. Maybe someone in the list can help my friend? Which are the plus and minus of these two zooms? Which does perform better in terms of sharpness, contrast, distortion, light fall-off, building quality, handling.. Thank you, Fabio - Facit in the PUG
Vs: FA 28-70 f2.8
In which way is the 4/28-70 essentially same as 2.8/28-70. And which kind of macro feature the former has? Mine did not have any IIRC. The 4.0/28-70 is one very good lens. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 19. heinäkuuta 2003 19:36 Aihe: Re: FA 28-70 f2.8 That's possible. I have a FA 28-70mm f/4.0 AL on the way to me (haven't seen it yet) and it's presumably got some small (I hope) glitch in it's 'macro' feature. Odd that it's essentially the same lens. I'll be wringing it out as soon as I get it. I'll report back... I was sort of wishing it had been an f/2.8 instead, but perhaps it won't matter. We'll see. keith whaley Joseph Tainter wrote: Pål reported here that he has had problems of build quality/mechanical failure with this lens. Has anyone else had such problems? (Pål has also acknowledged, if I recall correctly, that he is hard on equipment.) Thanks, Joe
Vs: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic
No, it was not a Zeiss trademark. But the way it was conceived is probably the way you describe it - according to Dario Bonazza´s book. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 19. heinäkuuta 2003 19:59 Aihe: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic Is this true? Even the Pentax name was originally a Zeiss Ikon VEB trademark until bought by Asahi. It was originally derived from PENTaprism and contAX. from the cited below website. Regards Albano
Vs: Vs: FA 28-70 f2.8
Yeah, the focal length range is the same. Like I wrote, the 4.0/28-70 is a very good lens: sharp, small, light and focuses close - but not very confidence inspiring mechanically. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. heinäkuuta 2003 0:36 Aihe: Re: Vs: FA 28-70 f2.8 Raimo Korhonen wrote: In which way is the 4/28-70 essentially same as 2.8/28-70. Okay, if you're going to hold my feet to the fire...g That seems to have been a throw away statement, by the looks of it... Same range, both FAs, one is an FA*, f/2.8, the other an FA, f/4.0 - both constant aperture. I can't find a manual focus 2.8, so, knowing the FA [star] is not at all the same lens, the only thing in common those two lenses have is the range and the constant aperture feature. Period... And which kind of macro feature the former has? Mine did not have any IIRC. The 4.0/28-70 is one very good lens. My 28-70mm f/4.0 will focus to about 9.5 - 10 from the front of the lens, at either 70mm or 28mm. For a zoom, that's pretty good. No, it's not a true macro, that focuses to say 3 to 5. Still, not bad, for a zoom. Will you settle for semi-macro? How about Great little mid-range, close focusing zoom? g keith All the best! Raimo
Vs: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic
Praktica was originally made by Kamera Werkstatten at first in Dresden, then in Niedersedlitz (wherever that may be) - Pentacon was formed later in 1964 by joining together several (five?) East German state-owned camera manufacturers, from 1959 under the name of VEB Kamera und Kinowerke Dresden. The Praktica factory seems to exist at Niedersedlitz and belongs to the former owners, the Noble family - they make Noblex panoramic cameras. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. heinäkuuta 2003 2:34 Aihe: Re: Pentax is a Zeiss name? was Re: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic I wonder if there's some confusion between Pentax and Pentacon (who made Praktica). Maybe because they were the last two manufacturers who used m42 or something. Anyway, I believe that Pentacon is PENTAprism and CONtax joined together. Makes sense, as they're both German companies. But, I've never heard that the name Pentax was a Contax trademark. cheers, frank Albano Garcia wrote: Is this true? Even the Pentax name was originally a Zeiss Ikon VEB trademark until bought by Asahi. Itwas originally derived from PENTaprism and contAX. from the cited below website Regards Albano --- Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dario, I went to the site you show below, and found the Deckel mount, that will allow my M-42 Pentax bodies to use my lovely Retina II/IIIS lenses! I've been hesistating selling them, simply because they were so perfect, but the nearly brand new Retina Reflex III has a disabled shutter (what eise is new, huh?) Now, with the Deckel adapter, I could use all of my Retina Reflex lenses! Excellent! But, do I want to spend $250 for that privilege? That's one steep adapter! Nah, I think maybe I'll sell the lenses... and the camera. keith whaley Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: Of course, I'm also expecting high-quality screw mount lenses, to be added to that bunch of Takumars and C.Z. Jena glass here and there... Bye, Dario - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Cosima makes a new Spotmatic Not sure if anybody alse already pointed it out here on the list... So, at long last, they did it. The SLR which became a rangefinder has turned back into a SLR. Now it's just like an original Spotmatic, including the M42 screw mount, the stop-down swich on left side of the mirror box and the optional accessory shoe. See the new Voigtlaender Bessaflex at: http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtFlexTM.htm Bye, Dario Bonazza www.dariobonazza.com = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- I don't believe in God, but I do believe in pi - Henri Cartier-Bresson
Vs: Dumb question about the 645
Which one? The Pentax 645 had a non-interchangeable viewfinder from the beginning. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Ed Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 15. heinäkuuta 2003 15:41 Aihe: Dumb question about the 645 Did the original 645 have a removable finder so it could be used as a waist level camera? Ed
I Am Off
I´m off to Ischia (Italy) for two weeks - Pentax MZ-S comes along. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Vs: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
Yes, but the question was not about flash metering. Like you say OTF flash metering is quite common even in lower level cameras. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: whickersworld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. kesäkuuta 2003 14:15 Aihe: Re: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.) Raimo Korhonen wrote: So Pentax LX and Olympus OM-2 were the only professional cameras in the world? Actually OTF has bad points as well as good ones, probably more bad ones because it never caught on with other manufacturers. And there was the entry level OM-10. Hi Raimo, Surely most, if not all TTL flash control systems use OTF metering? It would appear to have caught on with a great many manufacturers. John
Vs: What's the expected life-time of a shutter?
From that camera 15 is the minimum you can expect. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. kesäkuuta 2003 17:13 Aihe: What's the expected life-time of a shutter? Hi, gang. Subject says it, really. Got my Z1 back from service today, and a counter in the camera says the shutter has been tripped close to 9500 times. Just wonder how far into it's life-time it actually is... Jostein
Vs: What's the expected life-time of a shutter?
In the Chasseur d´Images test in 2000 even the Pentax MZ-30 managed 145305 shutter cycles so PZ-1 series must do better. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. kesäkuuta 2003 22:03 Aihe: Re: What's the expected life-time of a shutter? Jostein wrote: Got my Z1 back from service today, and a counter in the camera says the shutter has been tripped close to 9500 times. Just wonder how far into it's life-time it actually is... REPLY: The Z-1p uses the same shutter unit as the Nikon F/N90. I have no idea about its life expectancy but my guess is about 100 000 exposures. As Many Nikon F90 have had a real pro work out there must be some information out there about its reliability and life span. Pål
Vs: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
So Pentax LX and Olympus OM-2 were the only professional cameras in the world? Actually OTF has bad points as well as good ones, probably more bad ones because it never caught on with other manufacturers. And there was the entry level OM-10. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. kesäkuuta 2003 4:22 Aihe: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.) Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-)
Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress
What Leica uses Zeiss lenses? Do you understand these two things? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23. kesäkuuta 2003 2:08 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress The Leica says Leica on the front. The Leica uses Zeiss lenses. When you understand what these two things mean the comparison is over. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we seem to be doing a lot of comparison with the MZS to Nikon or Canon. But take a look at the Leica R9.
Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress
No, they are not: Leica M7 2350 USD Contax G2 1400 USD with 2/45 lens Konica Hexar RF 1000 USD Voigtländer Bessa R2 650 USD All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23. kesäkuuta 2003 2:07 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress all other rangefinder cameras are close to Leica's price. Herb - Original Message - From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 18:39 Subject: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress i was looking for a $500 street price Pentax body and the MZ-S is spec'd like the competition's $500 street price bodies at $800 street price. As someone has already said - there's more to a camera than just specs. To exagerrate a bit - it's like bashing a Leica M for having the fastest shutter 1/1000s and asking why it's so many times more expensive than, say... anything. Regards, Lukasz
Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress
Actually there was the assertion that the other current rangefinders have prices close to Leica´s. That is not the case, Leica is the most expensive by a wide margin and my list of the cameras and prices was presented to emphasise this. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23. kesäkuuta 2003 18:35 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress Well, if you're compiling a list of cameras that aren't Leicas, then I suppose only one camera marque is disqualified from inclusion. I believe Raimo was listing a few cameras that fulfil the same function as a Leica. But I wasn't aware that actually BEING a Leica was a requisite. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] i can. a person who wants a Leica doesn't want anything remotely less in cost. that is what cachet does. cost is in of itself a feature. Herb - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have Minolta released a new line of Himatics? Are they available with interchangeable lenses? If the answer is no to just one of those questions, I don't see how a Himatic could rank with the group mentioned. regards, Anthony Farr
Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress
I have not found any cachet in my M6 - and it is not mentioned in the user´s manual either. It is 18 years old, maybe newer versions have it? A look at the price lists will show you the prices if you are interested. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23. kesäkuuta 2003 19:07 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress Oh, I see now. Other rangefinders are just as expensive as Leicas, unless someone actually proves that they're not. In which case Leicas are so much more expensive because they have 'cachet'. Expensive item, that 'cachet' stuff ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2003 3:42 AM Subject: Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress Actually there was the assertion that the other current rangefinders have prices close to Leica´s. That is not the case, Leica is the most expensive by a wide margin and my list of the cameras and prices was presented to emphasise this. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23. kesäkuuta 2003 18:35 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress Well, if you're compiling a list of cameras that aren't Leicas, then I suppose only one camera marque is disqualified from inclusion. I believe Raimo was listing a few cameras that fulfil the same function as a Leica. But I wasn't aware that actually BEING a Leica was a requisite. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] i can. a person who wants a Leica doesn't want anything remotely less in cost. that is what cachet does. cost is in of itself a feature. Herb - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have Minolta released a new line of Himatics? Are they available with interchangeable lenses? If the answer is no to just one of those questions, I don't see how a Himatic could rank with the group mentioned. regards, Anthony Farr
Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress
But you have not used either. Your opinions should be classified under educated guesses, at best. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Artur Ledóchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 22. kesäkuuta 2003 20:10 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress OK, how many rolls have you put through the Dynax and how many through MZ-S? None. But I have the constant access to the Dynax 7 as my best friend uses it and so I very often play with it. And I tried the MZ-S several times. Oh, and I used to have a few Pentax cameras in my life, so I know what are the strengths and weaknesses of the Pentax system, know what to look for in the Pentax cameras. I think I have enough personal experience with this system to rely upon it when analysing a given model. And I have never said the MZ-S is poor in any way... Regards Artur
Vs: VS.: Lens Mount Progress
Yeah - but the current electronic shutters are incredibly durable. Perhaps it is in order to quote the Chasseur d´Images August/September 2000 test again: Canon EOS 300 - 180186 cycles Minolta 404 si - 249185 cycles Nikon F 60 - 64633 cycles Pentax MZ-30 - 145305 cycles And in the Nikon it was not the shutter that gave up, it was the aperture closing mechanism. But it still tells us that professional quality does not extend to Nikon consumer products. So let´s wait for what Tom can do. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 22. kesäkuuta 2003 21:04 Aihe: Re: VS.: Lens Mount Progress Hi, Sunday, June 22, 2003, 7:51:18 PM, you wrote: Hi I shoot (for private use) appr. 1 roll of film a week. If the shutter lasts 100.000 cycles, it would last me appr. 50 years! Pretty good, eh? That's is if I don't fire it without having loaded the camrea with film - which I do frequently... http://www.nemeng.com/leica/007b.shtml -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vs: Lens Mount Progress
Advantages? Name one. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Artur Ledóchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. kesäkuuta 2003 23:16 Aihe: Re: Lens Mount Progress - Original Message - From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lens Mount Progress MZ-S. You say that the MZ-S doesn't compare to its rivals (EOS 3 or F100), but then again one might say that there is no other camera like the MZ-S on the market. Small, solid, well-built, offering data imprinting, fully compatibile with old manual lenses. Actually there is a camera which is quite a direct rival to the MZ-S - Minolta Dynax 7. It has weaknessess but it also has several strong advantages over the MZ-S and it's significantly cheaper than the latter... Regards Artur
Vs: Lens Mount Progress
During the last Photokina I learned that Pål has good, reliable sources in the Pentax circles in Japan. Do you? If not, try sticking to facts, because you will have a greater chance of getting things right. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: whickersworld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. kesäkuuta 2003 1:40 Aihe: Re: Lens Mount Progress Pål Jensen wrote: You seem to base this on the assumption that MZ-S contains a shutter not optimized for durability. This is way off the truth. *Your* assumption is way off the truth, Pål. Try sticking to facts, because you will have a greater chance of getting things right. John
Vs: Lens Mount Progress
Do I sense a negative attitude here? It is quite unnecessary. Current electronic shutters are very durable, even the cheap ones. In a Chaser d´Images test issue (226/2000) even Pentax MZ-30 shutter managed to do 145305 cycles. In the days of mechanical shutters 5 was respectable and 10 absolute top. I would expect MZ-S to perform even better but at the current rate I use film I will never know. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. kesäkuuta 2003 10:25 Aihe: Re: Lens Mount Progress Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, whickersworld wrote: *Your* assumption is way off the truth, Pål. Try sticking to facts, because you will have a greater chance of getting things right Pål is right. High durability of MZ-S shutter was mentioned in Canadian MZ-S brochure. And because this brochure is direct translation from Japanese version, I consider this info as very reliable. You can download this brochure here: http://www.pentaxcanada.com/support/brochure_download/MZ-S_eng.pdf Japanese version is on www.pentax.co.jp It also mentions impossible things like Absolute accuracy in focusing and metering and The flexibility to suit any purpose and any photographer. For the shutter they just say the high performance shutter puts the emphasis on reliability and accuracy in real situations (which could also be read as it performs bad in lab tests, so we'll limit talk to real situations only). No figures mentioned like MTBF in shutter cycles. Just marketing talk (that also inspired Paal with the 100% accurate metering claim). cheers, caveman
Vs: My new toy found a first use
Great stuff! All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 21. keskuuta 2003 22:45 Aihe: My new toy found a first use OK. I thought that I won't make a I have a new toy statement but to make this story full it would be necessary. I have a new toy. Or even two. Four days ago I finally got mine MZ-S with FA24-90. It took me almost two months to buy it in Poland. I needed Polish invoice so I had to go through a path of pain caused by current Polish Pentax distributor. But enough about that - I finally have it and I'm really happy. At thursday we had a holiday in Poland and I went to my parents for dinner taking my new camera with me (it's strange that I didn't took to bed with me g). After that a friend invited me to a Apocalyptica concert. Apocalyptica are couple of cello players from Finland, along with a drummer right now, that play heavy metal (they started with cello Metallica covers). I'm not their big fan but I got a free ticket so decided to go. Took the camera with me as I didn't want to leave it in car and figured out that I can find some semi-peacefull place that it would be safe in my bag. At the entrance however there was an unpleasant surprice - I coudn't take the camera inside and had to leave it at the desk. Fortunatelly my friend was sitting there so I had someone I could trust the MZ-S. But soon after the concert started my friend called me and handed me a PHOTO pass. And there I was from a guy that couldn't bring the camera inside to someone that had official permission to shot. Having that decided to give a camera a try. I only had HP5+ 400 with me but on the package there was the development time for 1600ASA in ID-11 so that's what I had to use. Universal Music Poland insisted that no photos were taken during the show except for authorised people and only during the last three songs. I could enter the space between audience and scene and exposed whole roll from there which almoust used all my time. How it all turned out can be checked here: http://www.kajko.wdb.pl/apocalyptica/ All shots taken with MZ-S + FA24-90, mostly spot metered from face. The film was developed in ID-11(1+0), 9:30min, 25C. I had to use the high temperature as it was hot here for almoust the month and that what the room (or rather bathroom) temperature was and didn't had the idea how to cool the dev down since it wasn't to be mixed with water. Unfortunatelly it further boosted the contrast. I scanned everything at work at a bit crappy Agfa Duoscan but I quite like the result. After all it was a really nice experience. Thanks for reading, Maciej
Vs: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?
Yeah, I have been thinking about getting a Canon, too. I would like to have the F-1n, the first version. That is a quality camera. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 22. kesäkuuta 2003 0:54 Aihe: Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D? Okay, I am thinking about selling my Pentax gear and switching to Canon (mainly for the auto focus and maybe a bigger view finder -- yes, I will probably rent one first, if I can, before I decide -- probably the Elan 7e). If I were to dump the Pentax, I would choose Canon too (assume I would stay with 135). However, I believe the strength of Canon is USM IS, and a complete array of fully integrated lenses and bodies, unlike Nikon. If you want viewfinder quality, I think Minolta 9 is the best. Could someone explain this to me in very simple language? Switch to Canon when you are still not too deep with Pentax gears, seriousely. regards, Alan Chan _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Vs: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
The non-APO is cheaper and almost as good - in some tests it is even better. The APO is a bit sharper at the long end. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 20. kesäkuuta 2003 8:11 Aihe: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy? From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sigma 70-300 DL All the best! Raimo Which one? There are currently two Sigma 70-300 DL:s. 1. Sigma DL Macro Super 2. Sigma DL Super APO 2. Thanks, Lasse
Vs: Cost of cameras (WAS Re: Lens Mount Progress)
Good point! I can say the same about MZ-S (except that it is not 11 years old yet). The MZ-S and 3.5-4.5/24-90 cost about 1500 USD and it has all the features I need and I am going to keep it for at least 10 years. Cost of one exposure will be negligible. But it would sell better if it were slightly (slightly, not much!) cheaper. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 18. kesäkuuta 2003 22:28 Aihe: SV: Cost of cameras (WAS Re: Lens Mount Progress) Hi Just a note: My Z1 cost me less than 2000$ (with two zooms) in Denmark. Its 11 years old and works like the day I got ot. That's less than 200$ a year - or less than 1$ a day - or two slides in a frame. I took hundrets of films with very nice photographs. It's really good value for money! It really doesn't matter if it's 1000$ or 5000$ as long as I enjoy using it! Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Caveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. juni 2003 21:20 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Cost of cameras (WAS Re: Lens Mount Progress) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The number of people that will spend around $1000 for a film SLR that isn't made by Canon, Nikon or Leica isn't large enough to make such a camera profitable. You forgot to mention Mamiya, Hasselblad, Fuji, Contax, Pentax and even Bronica. If you were reffering to 35mm format only, I have some news for you. The guys that were buying and making profitable the $1000 C/N cameras were the PJs. Some time ago they went digital. There's very few of them left to buy those film things and make them profitable. 35mm film is now hobbyst land. They don't have a company behind to pay the gear for them. cheers, caveman
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Sigma 70-300 DL All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 19. kesäkuuta 2003 18:24 Aihe: Which 300 zoom should I buy? I haven't kept up to date on what has been released lately. Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price level but with good resolution at the long end? Anyone on the list wanting to sell? Thanks, Lasse
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Not likely. It is an unique camera with useful specs. Nikon F 100 is not better, it is different. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 18. kesäkuuta 2003 12:28 Aihe: Re: Lens Mount Progress whickersworld wrote: The MZ-S is not going to win any converts to Pentax. But might have the opposite effect. cheers, caveman
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MZ-S is a bit overpriced but it has all the features I need and more. Great camera, all who have tested it have liked it. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: Artur Ledchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 18. keskuuta 2003 11:26 Aihe: Re: Re: Lens Mount Progress Uytkownik fastpat [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Robert, if you think the MZ-S is overpriced, compare it to similarly-priced cameras in terms of build quality, as well as features. It\'s built to a noticeably higher standard than any other 35mm in the present Pentax line. I have to agree with another list member (I\'ve forgotten his name) who found no desire at all to use his MZ-5n, now that he has an MZ-S. The difference in feel and quality is that obvious. Yes, but even if the MZ-S is well built, is't not built well ENOUGH to justify the high price - it isn't sealed. So if one doesn't use the camera as a hammer, can easily go for a regular plastic body - it'll surely survive to the next moment of getting a new one. As for features, it has all most people need. More features does not always mean more useful features. When shooting beside someone with a D100, see how they envy the better low-light AF of the MZ-S, just for starters. But more features for the same or less money is more fair than less features for more money, don't you think? MZ-S is a great camera but could have been a better one if it was cheaper or have some more features (vide: Dynax 7) Regards Artur
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I like it too - but it would sell better if it were slightly cheaper. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 18. kesäkuuta 2003 14:04 Aihe: Re: Vs: Re: Lens Mount Progress Raimo Korhonen wrote: MZ-S is a bit overpriced but it has all the features I need and more. Great camera, all who have tested it have liked it. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho Raimo, I don't think it is an overpriced camera. I've had one for 20 months or so, and I like it a lot. In fact, if I had some money to spare, which is not true nowadays, I'd sell my Z-1, and would buy a second MZ-S. Of course, it is not the perfect camera (there is not such thing, at least in my view), but nowadays it is the camera I use the most. Even my MX does not see much use these days. Regards. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
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Might also have been Jostein - but it was me who was motorcycling - and I re-subscribed this morning, after being released from the hospital the evening before. Had a collision with a deer on Tuesday - right hand is in sling because of two screws in shoulder, left hand in plaster cast because of fractured little finger - otherwise OK. The deer died. The Moto Guzzi is in a sad shape. I consider myself extremely lucky - my number was not up yet. I hope to be Pentaxing in Italy (Ischia) in two and a half weeks time. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 14. kesäkuuta 2003 13:59 Aihe: Re: Back again Volume: yes Content: no vbg Glad to see you're back. Weren't you on a motorcycle trip or something? cheers, frank Jostein wrote: Did I miss much? :-) Cheers, Jostein -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
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Thanks for you sympathy. The trip to Italy is going to be on a plane - like it was planned. No motorcycling for some weeks. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 14. kesäkuuta 2003 15:57 Aihe: Re: Back again Sad to hear about your accident, Raimo. Hope your bones mend quickly. Will you be motocycling to Italy? Jostein - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:24 PM Subject: Vs: Back again Might also have been Jostein - but it was me who was motorcycling - and I re-subscribed this morning, after being released from the hospital the evening before. Had a collision with a deer on Tuesday - right hand is in sling because of two screws in shoulder, left hand in plaster cast because of fractured little finger - otherwise OK. The deer died. The Moto Guzzi is in a sad shape. I consider myself extremely lucky - my number was not up yet. I hope to be Pentaxing in Italy (Ischia) in two and a half weeks time. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 14. kesäkuuta 2003 13:59 Aihe: Re: Back again Volume: yes Content: no vbg Glad to see you're back. Weren't you on a motorcycle trip or something? cheers, frank Jostein wrote: Did I miss much? :-) Cheers, Jostein -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
