Re: Like a turd in an elevator

[P. J. Alling]

It would take some doing for Tony Northrup to be as bad as Kennyboy.  At 
least Northrup's hands on reviews are made when he actually has the 
equipment he's reviewing in his hands...


The video is amusing though, and points up some of Northrup's illogical 
preconceptions, but who among us doesn't have illogical preconceptions.


The problem is that Northrup is so often right, that his reasonable 
explanations, when he is wrong, are very hard to see, if you don't know 
he's wrong.  (I think that made sense).


On 3/12/2022 8:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I’m only 30 seconds in to the video and he describes Tony Northrup's video on 
ISO like a turd in an elevator, it’s wrong on so many levels.  If it continues 
like this, it’ll be gold!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwRsWomRzVQ

It sounds like Tony Northrup is today’s Kennyboy.

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Re: OT; I'm Tired

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I'll bet it's got plenty of depth of field, at pretty much all focal 
lengths.  I do understand your issues.  I too am tired, and I'm not 74 
yet.  One of the reasons I decided to not pursue full frame.


On 3/11/2022 9:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I never thought I’d say it, but at 74, I’m worn out. I don’t know how much 
longer I can keep carrying big glass and a full frame camera on a walk through 
the woods. Yes, my k-3 is lighter, but it’s still a lot of camera with a lens 
that’s long enough to shoot wildlife.

Here’s the camera I want: 
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Re: PESO: The Deans' House

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My monitor isn't calibrated either, but, according to the manufacture it 
doesn't need to be, (and I haven't been able to find my calibrating tool 
since I moved, I'm hoping that it's in my storage area), but, that said 
the colors look pretty natural to me.


On 2/24/2022 4:20 AM, David Mann wrote:

Hi all,

Recently I've been going through some old medium format film scans and 
processing the files to get them into my database.

Here's one from 2001, I think it's from the first roll I put through the Pentax 
6x7.  It's a local landmark which I used to ride past on my way to/from 
university.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1136/#peso

Pentax 6x7 with 45mm f/4

The process is a bit painful; dust-spotting a 350+Mb file is not a lot of fun 
and I suspect the colours of the slides may have shifted a little over the past 
20 years. I'm not great with colour-correction, and it doesn't help that I 
haven't calibrated my screen.

It's just as well storage is plentiful... the image I used for the previous PUG 
was 1.45Gb as a PSD :)

Cheers,
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Re: Minor landmark

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I've said for some time that the K-5[x] cameras were quite likely the 
best camera with all the shooting controls that most anyone needed 
directly available.


I wish that Ricoh could afford to take what would basically be the guts 
of a K-3, with some of the improvements in the K-3III, mainly the faster 
more robust shutter and improved AF and put that into a K-5 body.


On 2/21/2022 5:20 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I did some shooting this afternoon, and rolled 30,000 exposures with my K-5. It 
will be 10 years old in June.

My shooting pace is way slower than a lot of you, but it’s a bit of a landmark 
anyway. I ~really~ like this camera.

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Re: Dos PESOs - Bed Sitting Room 1 & 2

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The blinds are drawn because my view from those two windows is of a 
service station's back lot.  Not a horrible view but not a great one 
either.  The view from the kitchen area is quite a bit more "woodsy", 
but I'm reorganizing the kitchen a bit and there are cardboard boxes 
everywhere.  As I said, maybe next month.


I'm planning to hang a couple of photos on the wall left of the bed in 
the first photo but haven't decided which ones yet. Planning on printing 
them big, at least big for me,  and there is room in the kitchen for two 
11x17s or maybe three 8 x 10s.  Once again I haven't decided which ones 
to hang there.  I do have a number of 8 x 10s already printed but they 
are in storage, and I'm not sure where they are.


On 2/20/2022 8:26 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I agree - it looks very cozy.. and the two angles are just right to 
capture the whole room.

But what - none of your photos on the wall?

Would like to see a daytime shot with light coming in the windows 
through the blinds where
we can see a bit of what you see looking out the window.. unless the 
blinds are drawn to avoid that

rather than for evening the light :-)

ann

On 2/20/2022 1:09 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Your digs look quite cozy.  Nicely photographed, in  any event.

Dan Matyola
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I don't think I've ever done this before.  I'm going to share two 
photos

of my new digs.

OK, so new is a relative term.  I've actually been living in this
inefficiency apartment for almost a year.   However I'm now organized
enough to feel free to photograph it.

These are two different views of what would be a Bed/Sitting Room if it
were actually a separate room from the dining/kitchen area. Which to be
honest I still have boxes in.  I hope to have that cleared up sometime
before I die, or maybe before the end of next month.

So here they are Bed Sitting Room 1 & 2

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--BedSittingRoom1.html

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--BedSittingRoom2.html

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Dos PESOs - Bed Sitting Room 1 & 2

[P. J. Alling]

I don't think I've ever done this before.  I'm going to share two photos 
of my new digs.


OK, so new is a relative term.  I've actually been living in this 
inefficiency apartment for almost a year.   However I'm now organized 
enough to feel free to photograph it.


These are two different views of what would be a Bed/Sitting Room if it 
were actually a separate room from the dining/kitchen area. Which to be 
honest I still have boxes in.  I hope to have that cleared up sometime 
before I die, or maybe before the end of next month.


So here they are Bed Sitting Room 1 & 2

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--BedSittingRoom1.html

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--BedSittingRoom2.html

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Re: While we're discussing Mac LR Classic and drives...

[P. J. Alling]

I know that I'm a little late on this, but backing it up seems to be a 
very good idea.


Then test the new drive against both drives, looking at any files that 
show discrepancies to make sure there is no corruption. Compare the two 
original files and make sure you have an un-corrupted copy.


Get at least one more drive then back up your new drive.

On 2/16/2022 12:51 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Thanks, Doug and Larry.

I have it backed up to Backblaze; and also had it backed up to another
external drive (which is having problems). A new drive just arrived
last evening, and I'm planning to back it up there too.

Backups have "saved my bacon" several times, so I am diligent about them.

Rick

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 12:43 PM Doug Brewer  wrote:

Please tell me you have it backed up to another drive. Or two. Or three.

If not, I'd be worried about that alone, but specific to your query, I'd
be concerned.

On 2/16/22 11:52 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

I have my photos on an 8TB external drive, in a folder named Photos
(imagine!), and organized by year/month/subject.

The 8TB drive started to act a bit flaky. Running Disk Utility on the
drive (OWC Toshiba MG0s...) gets me the message "First Aid process has
failed."

Running it on the OWC 8TB file it contains (USB External Physical
Volume - Mac OS Extended Journaled) reveals no problems.

Should I be worried or can I relax?

Rick
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PESO -- Breakfast Picnic, (as promised or maybe threatened).

[P. J. Alling]

Taken last fall.

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--BreakfastPicnic.html

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I'm baaaack.

[P. J. Alling]

It's been an arduous few months, but I'm finally back online.

If anyone has questions I probably won't answer them, because there's 
nothing particularly exciting to say about it.


On the other hand I'll probably be posting a few pictures.

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Re: Question

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I wouldn't call it poor, but it is different, much the same way that Raw 
Shooter from 2006 was different.  I still have a working copy of that 
and when I go back to play with it, it's really alien, all the controls 
are there more or less there, but not like anything I'm currently used to.


Darktable is seems to be quite capable, but, it would be like switching 
between a K-3 and a K20D,  the essentials are there, but the differences 
in UI are such that it's really aggravating.


On the other hand, there is probably less difference in the quality of 
output between various RAW rendering packages than between those two 
cameras.


On 9/25/2021 1:51 PM, Alan C wrote:
I came across Darktable purely by accident. The blurb said it was 
better than Lightroom in many respects so I just wondered if any of 
you boffins had tried it. If the UI is as poor as some of you say, I 
wont bother with it.


Alan C

On 24-Sep-21 08:29 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I don't use Darktable per se, I downloaded it to evaluate alternate 
raw rendering software, quite some time ago, and still have it 
installed on my desktop.  My opinion at the time was that it worked 
but the user interface would take more than a bit of getting used to 
and there were more intuitive programs out there. As it is I'm still 
using DxO Optics Pro. 9 which still does everything I need it to do, 
and for anything it can't do with it,I can use my old version of 
Photoshop CS2.


Personally if I were going to use a "Free" raw processing program, I 
think I'd go with Raw Therapee.  The interface is more like what I'm 
used to and they seem to cover all current Pentax camera bodies, so I 
would expect them to support pretty much everything else.


On 9/24/2021 12:19 PM, Alan C wrote:

Does anyone use DarkTable?

Alan C
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Re: "Shag Art" with the PDML's favourite bird

[P. J. Alling]

I was thinking the October PUG would be a perfect time to display images 
with serious Moire


On 9/24/2021 12:47 AM, Alan C wrote:

Perhaps a hint for the October PUG?

Alan C

On 24-Sep-21 12:48 AM, Brian W wrote:

Cormorants doing what cormorants do in South Australia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-24/bird-poo-problems-for-businesses-on-the-yorke-peninsula/100485552 



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Re: Question

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I don't use Darktable per se, I downloaded it to evaluate alternate raw 
rendering software, quite some time ago, and still have it installed on 
my desktop.  My opinion at the time was that it worked but the user 
interface would take more than a bit of getting used to and there were 
more intuitive programs out there. As it is I'm still using DxO Optics 
Pro. 9 which still does everything I need it to do, and for anything it 
can't do with it,I can use my old version of Photoshop CS2.


Personally if I were going to use a "Free" raw processing program, I 
think I'd go with Raw Therapee.  The interface is more like what I'm 
used to and they seem to cover all current Pentax camera bodies, so I 
would expect them to support pretty much everything else.


On 9/24/2021 12:19 PM, Alan C wrote:

Does anyone use DarkTable?

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Re: Back in TX from ME, can you tell?

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What an arch comment, you'll get no support from me.

On 9/19/2021 2:45 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 19 September 2021 at 03:34 l...@red4est.com wrote:




On September 18, 2021 6:56:50 PM PDT, Rick Womer  wrote:

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 04:55 mike wilson  wrote:


I feel such a heel for laughing at that.


Mike, you have no sole.

I'm sure he could cobble one together.

I don't know.  That left a real welt.




On 17 September 2021 at 22:08 ann sanfedele  wrote:


so.. that would be a reboot?

ann

On 9/17/2021 4:42 PM, Gonz wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/51487866084/


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Re: SD recovery software recommendation?

[P. J. Alling]

I've used a number of these programs some are better than others but few 
of the paid versions actually work better than the free ones.  Try 
Photorec, if the card is simply erased, or even if the directory 
structure is gone, if it can still be accessed by your OS it should work.


https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec#Operating_systems

It can be a bit confusing as there are two different packages that seem 
to do exactly the same thing, just have different names.


On 9/10/2021 2:53 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I installed a new external hard drive, restored my files using Time Machine, 
and was crestfallen to find that (for some reason) the 170 photos I took in the 
Adirondacks were lost (the disk crash occurred as I was working on them in LR).

Alas I had already deleted the images from the SD card. Which of the many SD 
recovery apps out there is a good one?

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Re: Periodic reminder...

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I've seen pictures of your mustache, are you sure you've ever trimmed it?

On 9/9/2021 3:40 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

I trimmed my moustache does that help?

Dave

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to trim your messages.

This email brought to you by the lengthy queue of moderation requests in
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Re: OT - tale of woe and techy question for you who are especially electronics/web savvy

[P. J. Alling]

I was about to suggest that, most of the devices that block readers 
accessing your cards when you don't want them accessed are just a layer 
of metal or metal mesh protected by a non abrasive covering.  Like a 
little Faraday cage covered in silk.  It should be possible to line your 
purse with something like that, unless the tolerances are two tight.


On 9/9/2021 12:08 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 09 September 2021 at 15:57 ann sanfedele  wrote:


P.s. while I'm thinking about that.. perhaps I should just get a new
wallet+lanyard that has the RFID stuff in it.. they are abundant, but
none I've seen on line so far
are quite as nice as the little Lesportsac one I have now that isn't
RFID.  Well, a justifiable shopping expedition is a plus.

ann

Aluminium foil is your friend. 8 -)


On 9/9/2021 3:45 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:

It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a 
clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.


On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson  wrote:

Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card.  It just alters the 
protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.


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Re: OT - tale of woe and techy question for you who are especially electronics/web savvy

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You could do worse than just cash.  Unfortunately anything that I can 
think of that would disable the contactless system on your card would 
probably also disable the chip and swipe strip at the same time.  The 
banks and government really want you to be traceable in all your 
economic transactions abet for somewhat different reasons.


This really annoys me, so I try to tell them to stuff themselves as 
often as possible, and cash is the hardest thing to trace.  It also 
can't be automatically deducted from your wallet as yet.


On 9/7/2021 11:18 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I do have a sleeve.. it just makes my mini purse a bit crowded..
At the moment I"m just swinging it around to my back when I get on a bus
and sadly I see that the little symbol is in fact lined up with the 
swipe strip..


may have to go back to carrying just cash

ann

On 9/7/2021 9:55 AM, Bill wrote:
I don't think you can disable near field communicationo have a sleeve 
without taking the

card apart. About the only option is a sleeve that blocks the signal.

Bill


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Intro:
we are now issued credit and debit cards with a little "speaker" symbol
on them so that one can be totally contactless when using a card.. just
swish your card on the vicinity of/ over the designated reader and  it
takes your money.  IN NY we have these things called an OMNI reader on
busses and subways.  since I am a senior I have my own card which one
still has to swipe because the Omni machine is reading your regular
credit crds and doesn't know you are old. HOwever  that does not keep
the OMNI machine which is often located right next to the metrocard
slot, from reading a credit card that gets close to it. bottom line..
MY debit card is in a lanyard that hangs on my neck
and at a level that , when I leaned forward to dip my metrocard got too
close to the OMNI reader and releaved me of $2.75 ..

NOw I have to pay especially close attention to my money so I found 
what

happened and eventually got my money back and was told I should keep my
credit cards in those protective sleeves they make for passport cards.
I also can't get another card without the chip in it that lets you 
swish

instead of insert a card ...

anyone know how I can disable that feature without disabling my regular
chip or swipe strip?  IT is at the opposite end of the card from the
regular chip and not near the
swipe strip.

Thanks
ann

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Re: OT A rant and an offer...

[P. J. Alling]

I don't need the ink, I'm using a Canon, (insert boom joke here), but I 
had a similar experience a few years ago with a package sent by USPS.  I 
watched as my package left Tennessee, was sorted in Atlanta, shipped to 
New York, got to Connecticut, and then for some reason was returned to 
Tennessee, moved around various USPS facilities there for about five or 
six days, was apparently put on a plane and flown directly to 
Connecticut and delivered the next day.  I actually showed the tracking 
page to a USPS employee and they couldn't explain why it happened.


On 9/2/2021 9:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
My 10 year old R2000 printer finally gave up the ghost and I'm unable 
to get the heads clean enough to make a decent print. Timing wasn't so 
bad, as I've been lusting after a P700 and Epson finally offered a 
rebate that made the cost more bearable.


B did their job...the printer was ordered on Aug 24 and shipped via 
FedEx on Aug 25, with expected delivery on Aug 27.  By the 27th the 
tracking showed it in transit in Chicago with a new delivery date of 
Aug 28.  FedEx tracking continued to show it in transit in Chicago for 
the next *five* days; why they had it roaming around the city of 
Chicago for that length of time I have no idea.  I was finally able to 
contact a real person at FedEx on Aug 31 to investigate and also asked 
B to intervene as the shipper.  The printer finally arrived this 
afternoon by courier. Needless to say, FedEx shipping and delivery 
performance was less than stellar.


So...is anyone on the list printing with an R2000?  I have some new 
cartridges - these are the 159 series - that someone can have for the 
cost of shipping.  If no one on the list is interested, I'll put them 
up on ebay or as a last resort they're worth $2 each to me if I 
recycle them.  Since they're new I'd prefer that someone could make 
use of them.


Here's what I have:

Magenta - 1
Cyan - 1
Matte Black - 3
Photo Black - 1
Gloss Optimizer - 2

-p


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Re: Which would be better

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It kind of depends on what you want to do.  If you need a tilt screen, 
and intend to shoot more videos, then the K70 has  the tilt screen, and 
is reputed to be better at recording movies.


If you want a more bullet proof body, with a very quiet, for a DSLR 
shutter, (and I do mean quiet, it makes the K-5II sound loud, and a 
Nikon user was surprised at how quiet the K-5II shutter was), I'd say 
the K-3.


On 8/10/2021 5:18 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

Used K70 or used K3?
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Re: FS: Pentax K-3iii

[P. J. Alling]

I wish I could afford it.

On 8/10/2021 3:48 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I know, it is not Friday, but it has been so long since this list was flooded 
by buyers/sellers I thought I might be forgiven…

I bought one of the first K-3iii bodies when they were released a few months 
ago. I’ve tried it out. It is still basically almost LNIB, with fewer than 
1,000 shutter activations. 937 if my memory serves me correctly.

It is a nice solid feeling camera, nice viewfinder, good images. I cannot vouch 
for the autofocus speed, not my thing, but all the comments and reviews say it 
is super. I thought I would use the K-3iii alongside my K-1. I found that the 
five years since the K-1 was produced was enough time for significant changes 
in the user interface, enough so that my old tired mind gets boggled trying to 
go back and forth from one camera to the other. For now, I’ll stick to the K-1.

I still have an itch for an APS-C 2nd or 3rd body, and might be interested in a 
K-3 or K-3ii if anyone wanted to upgrade to the K-3iii and offer the older body 
as partial trade.

The K-3iii does not come with an external battery charger; instead there is a 
wall wart and a cable that plugs into a port on the camera for in-camera 
charging. I will provide an optional no-cost extra - a Pentax external charger. 
And a spare 2nd-party battery.

Oh, and I received from Pentax a free commemorative pentaprism (I bought 
directly from them, I provided a review, and they think I am a good customer.) 
I would be happy to pass that along.

Let me know if you are interested in any or all of the above. I am thinking 
$1700 including shipping cost within the U.S., less of course with a K-3 
trade-in.

In a few days I’ll post this on one or more of the Pentax groups FB pages, then 
I’ll move on to eBay if necessary.

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PESO -- The Observer

[P. J. Alling]

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--theObserver.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3/w smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: Dilemma

[P. J. Alling]

I'd keep them both, but then I'm kinda strange that way.

On 7/29/2021 10:52 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

I've picked up two treasures this week.

  


https://www.flickr.com/photos/101533246@N02/51343774484/

  


Do I (would you)

Sell both,

Keep both, or

Keep just 1?

  


Both will produce excellent results. The Rollei will certainly have the
better glass, but that much better?

The Canon, while larger, is much easier to use. And it's a rangefinder, not
just a viewfinder.

Both will require a mercury battery adaptation. Probably just a Wein cell.
The Rollei battery holder is a pain.

  





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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

Last time I seriously looked which was a couple of years ago, I tried 
out a high end Olympus and a high end Fuji, I was seriously impressed.  
There was an occasional lag and the image looked a bit artificial, but 
seemed usable.  I thought a K mount camera with a good EVF would be fine 
for low light work, though I'd prefer a DSLR for any conditions where 
"I" could actually see.


On 7/26/2021 2:50 PM, Alan C wrote:
How good are the EVF's on the latest mirrorless cameras. The one on my 
wife's Fuji is rather blurry at high zooms. Sadly, the K-01 didn't 
have one. An optical turret or a loupe are possible options.


Alan C

On 26-Jul-21 03:04 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The sad part is adapter, paired with a Sony mirrorless camera is one 
of the formulations I thought would be a long term success for the 
Pentax K01.


On 7/25/2021 10:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Im pretty sure it is made of unobtanium.

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Subject: Re: PKA -> E

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this seems more like a limited 
production, rather than a mass production item.  So it would of 
course be more expensive for what you get.


On 7/25/2021 8:45 PM, John wrote:
No, nothing like that. When you wrote "buying a third of a K-70" it 
> made me curious how much the K-70 cost. That's all.


On 7/24/2021 18:07:56, P. J. Alling wrote:
I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical 
>> parts, and at a much lower volume so there would be a much 
lower >> return due to the economics of scale.  That is unless you 
have good >> numbers on the quantity of Sony users who see serious 
quality in >> Pentax Auto Focus lenses.


On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote:
K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter 
$546.95 >>> vs $439.00 for the adapter.


On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote:
You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the 
>>>> quotes list is gone...)


On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third 
of >>>>> a K-70!


Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:
I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from 
the >>>>>> camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a 
screw-drive >>>>>> shaft,
and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital 
>>>>>> signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom 
>>>>>> lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to 
translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going 
to >>>>>> add

a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've 
>>>>>>>> never seen

an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that 
actually >>>>>>>> will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be 
>>>>>>>> buying about

a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a 
less-expensive yet

full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe 
>>>>>>>>>


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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

The sad part is adapter, paired with a Sony mirrorless camera is one of 
the formulations I thought would be a long term success for the Pentax K01.


On 7/25/2021 10:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Im pretty sure it is made of unobtanium.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Jul 25, 2021 9:51 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: PKA -> E

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this seems more like a limited production, 
rather than a mass production item.  So it would of course be more expensive 
for what you get.

On 7/25/2021 8:45 PM, John wrote:

No, nothing like that. When you wrote "buying a third of a K-70" it > made me 
curious how much the K-70 cost. That's all.

On 7/24/2021 18:07:56, P. J. Alling wrote:

I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical >> parts, and at a much lower 
volume so there would be a much lower >> return due to the economics of scale.  That is unless 
you have good >> numbers on the quantity of Sony users who see serious quality in >> Pentax 
Auto Focus lenses.

On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote:

K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 >>> vs 
$439.00 for the adapter.

On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote:

You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the >>>> quotes 
list is gone...)

On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:

Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of >>>>> a K-70!

Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:

I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the >>>>>> camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive >>>>>> shaft,
and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital >>>>>> signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom >>>>>> lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to >>>>>> add
a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've >>>>>>>> never seen
an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually >>>>>>>> will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be >>>>>>>> buying 
about
a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe 
>>>>>>>>>

ntax_k_to_sony.html




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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this seems more like a limited 
production, rather than a mass production item.  So it would of course 
be more expensive for what you get.


On 7/25/2021 8:45 PM, John wrote:
No, nothing like that. When you wrote "buying a third of a K-70" it 
made me curious how much the K-70 cost. That's all.


On 7/24/2021 18:07:56, P. J. Alling wrote:
I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical 
parts, and at a much lower volume so there would be a much lower 
return due to the economics of scale.  That is unless you have good 
numbers on the quantity of Sony users who see serious quality in 
Pentax Auto Focus lenses.


On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote:
K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 
vs $439.00 for the adapter.


On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote:
You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the 
quotes list is gone...)


On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of 
a K-70!


Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:
I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the 
camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive 
shaft,
and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital 
signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom 
lenses!

I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to 
add

a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've 
never seen

an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually 
will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be 
buying about

a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe 



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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

Not nearly as full featured in fact it looks like a simple dumb adapter, 
and Fotasy adapters are even less expensive through Amazon.


On 7/24/2021 5:39 PM, Bill wrote:

https://www.kentfaith.com/KF06.075_pentax-pk-to-sony-nex-e-mount-adapter?cur=cad=Cj0KCQjw9O6HBhCrARIsADx5qCSt4xPkvF7iBytskPcLUTUlF-lQwJB51TWLd5OkImOfV_752l31rhEaArSsEALw_wcB

On Fri., Jul. 23, 2021, 1:33 p.m. ,  wrote:


To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe
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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

I assume that the adapter is made of the more expensive mechanical 
parts, and at a much lower volume so there would be a much lower return 
due to the economics of scale.  That is unless you have good numbers on 
the quantity of Sony users who see serious quality in Pentax Auto Focus 
lenses.


On 7/24/2021 2:24 PM, John wrote:
K-70 is only about a hundred dollars more than the adapter $546.95 vs 
$439.00 for the adapter.


On 7/24/2021 11:53:09, P. J. Alling wrote:
You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the 
quotes list is gone...)


On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of a 
K-70!


Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:
I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the 
camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive 
shaft,

and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to add
a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've 
never seen

an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be 
buying about

a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe 



ntax_k_to_sony.html




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Re: PKA -> E

[P. J. Alling]

You know, sometimes I know what I'm talking about.  (Too bad the quotes 
list is gone...)


On 7/24/2021 7:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks John. Now I understand why PJ says you're buying a third of a 
K-70!


Alan C

On 24-Jul-21 07:57 AM, John Francis wrote:

I assume there's a motor in the adapter (drawing power from the camera).
The first two pictures (the lens-facing side) show a screw-drive shaft,
and also the two contacts that could provide power and digital signals
for newer AF lenses, and may even provide power for power zoom lenses!
I'd guess there would also need to be a microprocessor to translate
between the various signalling protocols, but that's not going to add
a whole lot to the cost.


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 06:50:45AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

How on earth is screw drive AF possible?

Alan C

On 23-Jul-21 09:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never 
seen

an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.

I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.?? You'll be buying 
about

a third of the working bits of a K-70.

On 7/23/2021 3:33 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

To use my lenses on an e-mount body is there a less-expensive yet
full-featured adapter alternative to the Monster?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1627137-REG/monster_adapter_la_ke1_pe 



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Re: PKA -> E

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I've never seen one so expensive before, but then again I've never seen 
an adapter that also adapts screw drive AF either.


I kind of doubt that you'll find anything cheaper that actually will 
auto focus a K mount lens on a mirrorless body.  You'll be buying about 
a third of the working bits of a K-70.


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Re: August PUG Countdown

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That's hardly fair Ralf, from what I understand, there's snow in local 
summer in Tierra Del Fuego.


On 7/22/2021 2:22 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 22.07.21 um 20:09 schrieb Larry Colen:


Or go visit our friends in the other hemisphere.


https://www.skylinewebcams.com/de/webcam/argentina/tierra-del-fuego/ushuaia/tren-del-fin-del-mundo.html 



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Re: Enablement! New Monitor!

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Yes, it's a very nice monitor.

On 7/20/2021 3:17 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 20.07.21 um 19:45 schrieb P. J. Alling:

It's a Philips 276E9QDSB/27, 124% RGB, wide viewing angles, plug and
play on Windows 7.


What a difference a screen makes... :-)

Had the same experience last year.

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Enablement! New Monitor!

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It's a Philips 276E9QDSB/27, 124% RGB, wide viewing angles, plug and 
play on Windows 7.


So far I've been quite pleased.  There were some reviews that intimated 
that proper drivers were a problem, but so far no problems.  I'll know 
better when I run my spyder which has decided to make like it's namesake 
and scurry off somewhere.


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Re: Are Teleconverters a Con?

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The short answer is no they're not a scam.  However, most TCs will 
magnify any shortcomings in the system they are added to. Cheap TCs come 
with their own sets of optical problems and failings, but a good one, or 
a matched TC will give good enough results, for a price.  The problem is 
as time goes on you often don't get what you pay for.  I played around 
with a number of TCs inexpensive and in some cases very expensive during 
and after the film era and the only ones that really were worth while 
that I used, were the Pentax 1.7 AF adapter, not strictly a TC but it 
works as one on lenses up to the * 300mm f4.0 twins, with decent 
results.  Though neither of those lenses is the most optically stellar 
Pentax telephotos.  The Vivitar 2x Macro focusing TC worked very well 
with shorter focal lengths say between 40mm and 100mm, especially on 
film, on digital it was a little less useful and the images sometimes 
left a bit to be desired.  The Vivitar 70-150mm with it's matched 
multiplier gave results that were very close to the lens alone, 
unfortunately that lens was subject to an incredible amount of veiling 
flair so unless the photo gods were smiling the results were pretty poor 
most of the time.


On 7/16/2021 5:00 AM, Alan C wrote:
All teleconverters degrade the image to some extent, 2x more than 
1.4x. In film & 6Mp days cropping wasn't really an option so they did 
give more reach without the expense of a longer lens. Long ago I had 
an M42 Vivitar 2x which made my SuperTak 55/2 a useful 110/4. Given a 
high quality TC and a fast host lens, good results are possible. 
However with the high Mp sensors now in common use, a cropped image 
without the TC may be just as good or even better so what is the 
point? Only perhaps cropping options of the TC image which starts with 
full Mp?


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Re: 16-50 redo

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Leica almost died a couple of times.

I'll bet Pentax still makes money for Ricoh on every unit sold. In fact 
the imaging division may be the only profit center making a profit.


There is also a lot of synergy in their current, and past digital camera 
lines.  I expect the the next K1 iteration will have the focusing module 
that's in the K-3III and the new processing engine with very little 
difference in programming, but a faster bus, to make the frame rate a 
bit more competitive.


If there is a follow on to the 645z, and I think there probably will be 
since most of the R was done for the K-3III, the new bus, processor 
and AF modules will all be rolled into that model, with only minimal 
changes to firmware, and almost no changes to the actual hardware beyond 
flex boards and chips.


It would be nice to see a few new lenses for the 645 line but when I was 
working for an actual working pro, he only had two normal lenses, a wide 
and portrait telephoto for his brace of Bronicas.


On 7/16/2021 1:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Yes, but no company has the snob appeal of Leica!

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:54 PM Bill  wrote:


On Fri., Jul. 16, 2021, 8:48 a.m. Daniel J. Matyola, 
It sounds like Ricoh is designing wonderful niche lenses that few need

and

fewer can afford.


That's what being a niche player is all about. It worked for Leica for
decades.

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Re: OT: Unrest, Riots, Arson & Looting in South Africa

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Stay safe.

On 7/15/2021 6:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Just to let you know.

Sparked by the imprisonment of former President Jacob Zuma, South 
Africa has descended into a near state of anarchy in several densely 
populated areas no doubt orchestrated by Zuma supporters. The level of 
destruction is very serious & will lead to many problems in the near 
future especially the distribution of essential goods because delivery 
trucks have been burned on the highways too.


The authorities have been slow to react but Taxi Associations & 
vigilanties are fighting back to save their infrastructure from 
pillage. The Police & Army have been overwhelmed.


Fortunately there are no problems in the Lowveld yet but roadblocks 
have been set up on the main roads into Phalaborwa as a precaution 
after intelligence suggested that hordes may be on their way.


Please look on the internet if you want more details & commentary.


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Re: 16-50 redo

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Not for me really. I have what I need right now, as well as a lot of 
things I don't, and only have a very short purchase list, most of which 
I cannot afford.


I expect, based on the new selling price of the K-3III that the price 
for this lens will be astronomical, (not to mention the fact that 
inflation is heating up and will end up eroding even more purchasing power).


I do hope that Ricoh sells a boat load of them, to keep the K mount 
system alive.


On 7/15/2021 2:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

It looks like Ricoh is coming out with a new version of the 16-50:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_da16-50/interview/

My first thought is that they really ought to have made it a 15-50 or some 
other adjustment to the range just so it isn’t confused for the original.

I also note that this bodes well for K-3 iii owners, but maybe not so well for 
the K-1 crowd.

In any case, it will be interesting to see how it actually performs once it is 
available.


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Amazon's brain dead marketing...

[P. J. Alling]

Once again Amazon proves how brain dead their marketing is...

Why it's almost Pentax level, in fact I should take back calling it 
"brain dead" as that's an insult to the brain dead.


I say this because I've just pulled the trigger on a 27" monitor sold 
under the Philips brand, not the highest resolution but 124% sRGB IPS, 
which should be a major improvement over my current monitor for color 
matching, which until the death of my last 24" monitor sat on the shelf 
as a backup.


Within hours, actually less than two hours, of ordering the new monitor, 
I get an email from Woot, a wholly owned subsidiary of Amazon for what?  
Why a 27" monitor of course, for more money, with a much narrower color 
gamut.


What the hell do they think I'm going to do buy another of them?   If I 
were going to do that I'd get a second of the same model.


By the way if anyone is looking for a real budget photo monitor this one 
looks pretty good.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CLMDH3K/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8=1

I'll know better when I get it, but for now...

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Re: recommendations inexpensive printer for wondows 7 (was wanted epson.. etc)

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I don't think you can find non-wireless anything anymore.

I have a Canon Pixma ix6520, which was replaced in the Canon lineup with 
the ix6820, almost immediately after I bought it.  The ix6820 is selling 
for $175.,  most places, and I assume that the wireless connectivity can 
be turned off, because it has USB connectivity as well.  I know it has 
drivers for Win7 because they are the same as for the ix6520.


The printed results are pretty good, as it's a CMYK system, though they 
don't advertise it as a photo printer.


On 7/3/2021 9:14 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Don't want wireless anything.. I'm checking out different ones on line 
but so far nothing I can afford comes up

I may have to give up on using a printer for serious photo printing

ann

On 7/2/2021 1:59 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

My r2400 went south in a big way last night..
I'll have some ink to sell soon: --

want to go back to the r 220 or if someone else has any suggestions.. 
I"m not printing any serious stuff these days anyway but I do need a 
printer.


If you have one or see one on ebay from soemeone you know is reliable 
let me know


I'm now headed out to mail a hand written labeled package .. ugh..

Thanks in advance for any help you can give

ann




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Re: PESO -- Find the Heron.

[P. J. Alling]

No, it was just the best title I could come up with.  Probably shows my 
lack of imagination.


On 6/29/2021 1:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

so did I - is there a prize?

ann

On 6/27/2021 5:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Ooh! Ooh! I found it! I found it!

Rick (regressing…)

On Jun 26, 2021, at 5:14 PM, P. J. Alling 
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http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--FindTheHeron.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/smc Pentax 70-210mm f4.0~5.6.

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PESO -- Find the Heron.

[P. J. Alling]

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--FindTheHeron.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/smc Pentax 70-210mm f4.0~5.6.

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Re: July PUG - Counting Down

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Just uploaded my contribution.  It's kind of Architecture, and kind of 
not...


On 6/22/2021 9:36 PM, Brian W wrote:

July's theme is "Architecture".

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

Cheers
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

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Yes, but that's an M3 not a IIIc.

On 6/23/2021 4:36 AM, Alan C wrote:

I used to have a photograhy book with a full page advert of a Leica M3!

A friend down the road recently sold his mint M3 with 3 lenses to a 
collector in Cape Town who then sent his own Courier to fetch it.


Alan C

On 22-Jun-21 11:47 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:


[…] It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors 
viewpoint, except it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be 
particularly desirable to use, so it's basically economically 
irreparable.


If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for 
display.


By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an 
elite group except in your own mind.  […]

Then why put it on display?
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

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No I'm talking about where the viewfinder and rangefinder windows are 
located on the /back/ of the camera.  They are separate and IIRC not all 
that easy to shift ones view from rangefinder to viewfinder.  Quick 
focus and compose in my memory problematic.   I find it a lot easier to 
shift from the focus window to viewfinder window on the Kodak Medalist, 
who's ergonomics could best be described as; "Ergonomics, what's that?"


I'm talking about the IIIc not the much better M3.

Leica IIIcs also not particularly rare. I think they were one of the 
most produced Leicas, when I was looking into getting the shutter 
repaired, it was actually less expensive to get a copy with a working 
shutter than get the jammed shutter fixed. Probably still is since I 
checked prices and they often sell for well less than $500 US on ebay, 
usually, unless they're in extremely nice condition, less than $300.


On 6/23/2021 3:10 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 23 June 2021 at 01:15 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


.the viewfinder and rangefinder
windows are too far apart...

Are you talking just about aesthetics?  The further apart the windows are, the 
smaller the effect on accuracy at longer distances and from slop in linkages.  
I don't know if there is an inverse effect on accuracy at shorter distances.
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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

[P. J. Alling]

Because it's nice looking.  Even though the viewfinder and rangefinder 
windows are too far apart, and the film winder is a pita to use and it 
doesn't feel all that great in the hand, it looks nice...


On 6/22/2021 5:47 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:



[…] It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors viewpoint, except 
it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be particularly desirable to use, so it's 
basically economically irreparable.

If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for display.

By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite group 
except in your own mind.  […]

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Re: OT I briefly owned a Leica

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Somewhere I have a Leica IIIc, it was given to me by a non photographer 
friend on semi permanent loan.


I have two lenses for it, the collapsible 50mm and a Canon 35mm.

I found the camera to be ergonomically inferior to the Kodak Retna IIc, 
it's only actual advantage being that it's easier to interchange lenses.


I think I may have shot two whole rolls of film through the thing before 
the shutter jammed.


It's not a particularly special camera from a collectors viewpoint, 
except it being a Leica, nor does it seem to be particularly desirable 
to use, so it's basically economically irreparable.


If I ever find where I stored it I'll probably put it on a shelf for 
display.


By the way having owned a Leica doesn't make you a member of an elite 
group except in your own mind.  Just don't tell that to your dentist.


On 6/21/2021 11:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

So, I briefly owned a Leica, for Panasonic values of Leica.

I saw a friend last weekend who asked if I was interested in a broken Leica.  
My first thought was that it was some old film era Leica that no longer worked, 
but which might still have a usable lens. Long story short, it turns out it was 
a V-Lux4, aka a Lumix FZ-200 pimped out with a red dot.  It had been given to 
them, but when they turned it on they got some error message, they tried 
contacting Leica about getting it repaired and Leica said “It’s too old we 
don’t even touch those any more”.

My friend dropped it off, the error message was that the clock needed to be 
set, and there was some weirdness such that after I set the clock, I couldn’t 
leave that menu, but when I power cycled it, it powered up and worked fine. So 
I texted my friend that it seems to be fine, do they want it back, and it’s 
going home sometime in the next day or so.

But now, I can claim to be a member of that elite group of photographers who 
have owned a Leica.  Woo Hoo!


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Re: OT: Covid

[P. J. Alling]

Thanks Dave, like I said it wasn't horrible, I barely knew I was sick 
before the diagnosis, but knowing it could have killed me was a bit 
sobering.


I didn't have any of the now classic symptoms, I was just immensely tired.

One of my doctors put me on a new Medication and had just increased the 
dosage,  and being tired, was one of the possible side effects, so 
didn't worry too much.


Then individual who exposed me, called to tell me they had tested positive.

So I got tested, and got the results back at the two week mark, just as 
I was recovering and no longer contagious.


On 6/2/2021 8:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Glad you managed to weather that storm Peter

Dave

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:21 PM P. J. Alling 
wrote:


I actually had Covid about four weeks ago.  It could have killed me,
with my underlying condition, but, actually wasn't that bad, not that
I'd recommend getting it  as a way to gain immunity.

On 5/31/2021 10:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Ann & I have had our first Pfizer jabs. No.2 in 6 weeks.

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Re: OT: Covid

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I actually had Covid about four weeks ago.  It could have killed me, 
with my underlying condition, but, actually wasn't that bad, not that 
I'd recommend getting it  as a way to gain immunity.


On 5/31/2021 10:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Ann & I have had our first Pfizer jabs. No.2 in 6 weeks.

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Re: Panic on the streets of...Pentax

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Other photo sites have found no such issues in their tests, so sample 
variation?  Ah, for the good old day's of Modern Photography tests, 
where they understood that not every item in a product run is perfect.   
I think I'll just go out and take some photos.


On 6/1/2021 12:50 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/8630128882/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-added-to-studio-test-scene

"Worth mentioning at this stage, however, is the slight (relative) softness of the 
K-3 Mark III at its ISO 100 and 200 settings in our daylight mode in particular. Despite 
repeated attempts using Live View, the optical viewfinder, mirror lock-up, shake 
reduction (which isn't recommended for tripod shooting) and of course a self-timer, we 
were unable to produce a sharp image using the mechanical shutter at these particular 
settings due to shutter shock."

Grab some popcorn and go to 'comments'

;-)

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Re: Last Call - June PUG

[P. J. Alling]

Well, I found something, it's even recent, but it seems to fall under 
the heading, "You can't teach and old dog new tricks".


On 5/31/2021 5:41 PM, Brian W wrote:

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Thursday evening 3 June (Sydney time).

Theme: Open Gallery

As usual submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Full Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html



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Re: OT - Golden Vanity

[P. J. Alling]

The link in this takes me to YouTube.  I may have clicked on the wrong 
link(?) or not.  I'm going to take 12 minutes and watch the vid.


On 5/28/2021 5:31 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Peter, I think the problem is at your end. The video I posted has zero to do 
with Facebook - it is a Youtube link and needs no login of any kind to view.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_kgJiVGpA0>

If it’s taking you to a Facebook login page, I suggest you examine your 
settings!

The video can be found by going to Youtube and searching ‘Tom Cunliffe Yachts 
and Yarns’ and then selecting ‘videos’ and seeing the latest offering….

Cheers

Cot


On 28 May 2021, at 12:54, P. J. Alling  wrote:

The link want's me to sign into Facebook*,
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Re: Video review - K3iii

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Saw that before, didn't think it warranted posting, as it didn't 
contradict anything that I expected, and, well things like;  "Is the IR 
recording real?";  would be answered by one thing.


Can it record IR images in RAW, (and show IR images in live view), with 
an 87b filter in front of the lens?


If it can't it's not recording IR.

On 5/27/2021 10:16 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/videos/6159040727/going-out-of-this-world-with-neil-buckland-and-the-pentax-k-3-iii?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=2021-may-26_=pe_1822230_585762530_dpr_nl_479_15 





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Re: OT - Golden Vanity

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The link want's me to sign into Facebook*, since I don't have a Facebook 
account, I guess I'll have to guess at what the image is, something in 
gold perhaps?


*Even though I believe that Facebook has an electronic dossier on me I 
refuse to make it easier for Zuckerborg, (yes I meant to spell it that 
way), to track me, and to sell my information, to try sell me cheap junk 
from China.


On 5/22/2021 4:06 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Zero Pentax content, but some may be interested in our latest video about a 
1908 gaff-rigged cutter called Golden Vanity, newly refitted and sailing in 
southern England.

Camera was a Sony F3 and mostly Nikkor 17-35/2.8 but a bit of Canon 24-105/4 as 
well

Running time about 13 minutes.



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Re: sure is quiet

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I guess it's time to stop making animal noises and get a drink.

On 5/20/2021 11:27 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

We’re all down at the bar - nobody tell you



On 20 May 2021, at 16:11, David J Brooks  wrote:

has everyone gone away on vacation??

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Re: sure is quiet

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He say's it's too quiet...

Chirp, warble, croak, chirp, croak, warble...

On 5/20/2021 11:11 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

has everyone gone away on vacation??

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Re: PESO: Fallen

[P. J. Alling]

any yet you didn't forget it.

On 5/8/2021 6:22 PM, John wrote:
My first thought was an eminently forgettable 1981 movie starring 
Chevy Chase & Carrie Fisher - "Under the Rainbow" ...


"The pearl is in the liver".


On 5/8/2021 05:22:17, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 08.05.21 um 01:01 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:

The blossoms have all fallen off my cherry tree:


Sounds like a secret message from North Korea. ;-)

Nice photo.

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Re: No more Sony DSLRs

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Sony hasn't built DSLRs for years.  The SLT line that succeeded their 
DSLRs were a way to get DSLRs focusing speeds in a mirrorless camera, 
using the existing technology, and were only a stop gap, until they 
could better auto focus from the same chip that did the imaging.


I guess it also had the side effect of keeping the Minolta faithful in 
the fold, until they were no longer necessary.


I had forgotten that they still made SLT cameras.

The translucent part of that acronym is particularly annoying to me 
since they were actually using pellicle mirrors, if they were 
translucent the camera wouldn't work at all, at least not as a camera.


I am actually surprised they kept it up this long.

On 5/6/2021 7:34 PM, Sandy Harris wrote:

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PESO -- Pond and Daffies

[P. J. Alling]

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--PondAndDaffies.html

Equipment: Pentax K3/w Sigma EX 10-20mm f/3.5 DC USM

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: The new K3 iii

[P. J. Alling]

"Everything except the kitchen sink" is a phrase that implies something 
has every thing for every one.  Except the K-1 isn't that.  It's frame 
rate is too slow for the dedicated sports and modern wildlife 
photographers. It's video capabilities can best be described as 
existing.  I would say it's a landscape field camera, and, with a 
tilt/shift lens architectural, or, studio/portrait/product camera, for 
someone, with methodical technique, who can't really justify the expense 
of medium format.


On 4/27/2021 8:16 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 22.04.21 um 17:55 schrieb Bill:


As am I, but if it's another kitchen sink camera like the K1...


Sorry to be so blatantly ignorant but what is a kitchen sink camera?

Ralf

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Re: PESO: R I P Ashley

[P. J. Alling]

Really sorry to hear Ann.

On 4/23/2021 2:14 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
July 16th 2005 - April 18th, 2021  Best cat ever.. so glad to have had 
her for almost 16 years.


https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-WsJL79X/A 



And with apologies to the late poet and my friend James Wright for my 
altering the first two lines of COMPLAINT


"She's gone. She was my cat, my moon or more
 She chased the roaches out and scratched the door."

Actually, Jim would probably not have minded.. , he had an impish wit.

ann

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Re: PDML Debutante

[P. J. Alling]

I think that should be hanged...  Unless you know something about this 
list I haven't noticed.


On 4/21/2021 6:46 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:38:43 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Welcome to the list, It’s a unique and entertaining place to hang.

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Re: incognito case

[P. J. Alling]

You can buy closed foam with precuts like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Pick-Pluck-Pre-Cubed-foam-bottom/dp/B00ZFTEM0U/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1=foam+inserts+for+cases=1618926761=8-5

On 4/20/2021 2:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

The ice chest for my incognito case arrived today.  I just prototyped some 
dividers out of the box it came in.

I think that it definitely has promise. I need to figure out something better 
for the dividers (if I had a 3d printer that might work, but foam and a hole 
saw might be better.

Google photos implies that their photos are available to anyone, but the way 
they specify you don’t need to run google photos you might need a google 
account to see them.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/4xx9sQvo2FUeL6kNA

It’s about the size of a pelican case, and about 1/8 the cost.

I’m interested in any feasible suggestions for making dividers that’ll hold and 
cushion the lenses.

Here’s the cooler I made it out of, about $25 with tax etc.

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[P. J. Alling]

The specification for the finder kind of looks to me like a K-3 finder 
with a built in O-ME53.  I expect it will actually be a bit better than 
that, but the O-ME53 does make quite a difference when manually focusing.


On 4/3/2021 11:36 AM, Toine wrote:

I mentioned the missing charger. :)

All prereviews rave about the viewfinder. The specs say 1.05x vs 0.95x for
current models. I dont see how that would be a major improvement. If the
viewfinder would be just like the MX it would make it a dream for tele.
I dont see much in the current 0.95x viewfinders and my optomotrist claims
i have 120% vision


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Am 03.04.21 um 17:00 schrieb Alan C:

Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault.

Not to worry. Looks more like Bill is happy to have found something
(i.e. you and me) to  get all worked up about.

Ralf

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Re: Testing email

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You are wise beyond your years weedhopper.

On 4/1/2021 1:23 PM, Donald Guthrie wrote:

Test No need to reply. Not that it will stop this group from replying
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

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I hate to say this but the optional hot shoe cover has been on B's web 
site for several years now.  It is outrageously expensive for a piece of 
extruded plastic, but it's not new with the K-3III.


On 4/1/2021 1:01 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 01.04.21 um 18:38 schrieb John Francis:


Well, it is April 1st ...


Sure?

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

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It seems to address every criticism of the K3II except for a lack of a 
tilt screen, so of course everyone is going to dump on it.


As I'm not currently the target market, more or less perfectly happy 
with my current kit, all I see is a much improved APS-c, DSLR, and as I 
like DSLRs more than mirrorless cameras, I'm glad they made it.  I hope 
they sell a ton of them.


On 3/31/2021 3:33 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

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Actually I think the article said the opposite, no direct usb charging, 
but it does include an external battery charger.


On 3/31/2021 3:43 AM, Toine wrote:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

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Re: April PUG Countdown

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I'm sure he's not sure.

On 3/25/2021 9:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 25, 2021, at 5:43 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

I’m just being slow and indecisive.

Are you sure?


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Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

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I'm using an HP42s, which is so close to the original that I've not used 
either of my actual physical 42s' for quite some time. It's also 
available for Windows and Mac, I think it's available for Mac, but I 
have the Windows version installed on my desktop and my laptop.


On 3/29/2021 3:46 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
For my work I used slide rules until the period of HP calculators. Now 
I'm using an excellent HP41C simulator on my android phone.


Henk

Op 2021-03-28 om 20:25 schreef Larry Colen:



On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Alan C  wrote:

In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's 
& later bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of 
Sixth Formers how to use them and then along came the Scientific 
Calculator. End of story. Anyone want a Slide Rule?
I actually have a small collection, because I have a special 
appreciation for obsolete and imprecise equipment.


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Re: OT now 18-270 geese

[P. J. Alling]

They were nice, but, they were not geese...

(And, yes, I did read Larry's earlier explanation).

On 3/28/2021 11:52 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I like the bird shots.

Dan Matyola
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On Mar 28, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 

wrote:

Image?

OK, nothing special,  just some quick and dirties with just basic cropping
and exposure adjustment.  I also added a few of the camellia tree in my
front yard that I took while I was standing there with the camera and new
lens. I have no complaints about the sharpness of the lens considering its
versatility.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157718549386445 <
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Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

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Did no one else recognize the horrible pun?

On 3/28/2021 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote:
In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & 
later bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth 
Formers how to use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. 
End of story. Anyone want a Slide Rule?


Alan C

On 28-Mar-21 08:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 28, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Stanley Halpin 
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Occasionally I hear of people who still prefer to use a slide rule 
rather than the calculator on their phone. I would probably be one 
of those persons if only I had learned how to use the slide rule!

Give it a try, using a slide rule is as easy as falling off a log.

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On 3/28/2021 2:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 28, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Stanley Halpin  wrote:



Occasionally I hear of people who still prefer to use a slide rule rather than 
the calculator on their phone. I would probably be one of those persons if only 
I had learned how to use the slide rule!

Give it a try, using a slide rule is as easy as falling off a log.

Oh, the pain...

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Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

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I learned to use a slide rule, and there are things it's actually better 
for than using even the best calculator.


On 3/28/2021 10:27 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I didn’t mean to imply that there is a right or wrong answer. Of course there 
are many ways to approach a task, many mindsets that might come into play. If I 
were shooting for a client with particular needs, if I were shooting a 
fast-paced event like with motor-sports or a dance competition, or if I were 
shooting a once-in-a-lifetime event like a bride’s first wedding, then my 
approach to the process and my attitude toward the desired outcome and my 
demands of the tools I needed to use would be somewhat different. But what I 
was trying to get to is that the constant clamor about the newest and greatest 
technological crutch/assistant in photography may well be good news for those 
who primary concern (a quite valid concern!) is with “getting the shot”, and 
pleasing the customer. But those who focus on the craft, the process of 
photography, may have different feelings about the tools they use, might be 
less interested in totally automated AI-driven autofocus and white-balance 
adjustment and depth-of-field aperture decisions, etc.

Occasionally I hear of people who still prefer to use a slide rule rather than 
the calculator on their phone. I would probably be one of those persons if only 
I had learned how to use the slide rule!

Stan


On Mar 28, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:

Stan,

I think the two mindsets you described serve different purposes.
Even the same person can employ either depending on the occasion.
In a hurry? An average result is fine? The less precise, casual,
on-the-go approach would be fine.
Have time? Need some satisfaction? In a meditative mood? The latter,
more satisfying, enriching approach is appropriate.

Perhaps the essential requirement is the knowledge of the existence of
these separate pathways.
Personally, I would be very happy to reach an "outcome" like building
a box like Bill's.
Yet, I may still enjoy the "process" of trying to make a box like that
even when I fail.

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tarihinde şunu yazdı:

There was a recent brief discussion here between Darren and PJ about the 
benefits (or not) of AI advances which will, among other things, provide far 
greater accuracy in camera’s autofocusing systems.

The topic got me to thinking about two woodworking classes I took a few decades 
ago. The first was a two-semester, 32 week class on the use of shop tools for 
woodworking. Taught in a local (Northern Virginia) high school Shop class 
facility by the local high school Shop instructor, we spent 3-4 hours one 
evening each week learning how to safely and efficiently use circular saws, 
table saws, jointers, planers, drill press, sanders, routers, etc. Each class 
started with the guy's about 30 minutes of lecture/demonstration for the 8-10 
of us in the class, and then the rest of our time was working on our own 
project(s) with observation, oversight, and occasional intervention by the 
instructor as needed. Before that class, I acted as though the little lines on 
the tape measure were primarily for decoration, filling in space between the 
bigger marks at the 1/2” and 1” markers. By the end of the class I had learned 
that 1/4” precision in measurement and sawing/planing was usually just about 
good enough but finer was better.

The following year, through a different Adult Ed system, I took a class in the 
use of hand tools. This one was taught in a guy's workshop basement on the 
Maryland side of D.C. The guy taught, demonstrated, and let the 5-6 of us 
practice with his tools. I learned that it was possible to work to 1/64” 
precision, but 1/128” was better if one was going to handcraft a wooden jewelry 
box or the like. A huge part of the difference was learning how to use good 
quality hand tools, being careful, slow, deliberate, thoughtful… I never did 
build a jewelry box but sometimes I look at the dining table I built with power 
tools to 1/8” or 1/16” precision, and I think what an interesting challenge it 
would have been to do that table more slowly, deliberately, thoughtfully…

I find a real pleasure in using good tools. Somebody with an iPhone or Canon 
might be able to fire off 10-15 shots while I am slowly carefully thoughtfully 
manually focusing my oh so primitive Pentax lenses, but the process itself is 
intrinsically satisfying to me. Maybe I could get the same outcome some other 
faster more mechanized way, but I would miss the pleasure of working with fine 
tools.

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Re: OT a bit of personal news

[P. J. Alling]

Sorry to hear about your mother, I think I know how you feel. Real grief 
didn't come until sometime after the event.


As regards the lens, I think you'll find that you will still have the 
wrong lens mounted about half the time.


Also sorry to hear about the job, but, I know how it feels to hate a job 
more and more each day.


On 3/25/2021 9:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

The good news is that I’ll be driving up to the Oregon coast tomorrow, a place 
that I’ve found very rich in photographic opportunities.

The fraught news is that I’m doing so to bury my mother who passed away this 
morning.  She was 90 years old, and over the past few years there was less and 
less of her there.  In short she had a critical case of time to go.  My 
emotions are a mixture of pain and relief, but I’ve basically said goodbye for 
the last time every time I’ve seen her for the past four years.

I also got fired today.  I’ve been hating my job more every day for a while 
now, so this also isn’t entirely bad news.  Finances may get a bit tricky for a 
bit, but with luck I’ll be able to get a new job that is actually in my career. 
 Even light construction is nowhere near as much fun at 60 as framing houses 
was when I was 20.

One bit of unequivocal good news, my Pentax 18-270 lens arrived today.  It’s 
been a bit awkward carrying both the 16-50 and the 55-300 on my bike, plus I’d 
invariably have the wrong lens mounted for whatever photo presented itself. A 
few days ago I found it on Ebay for $200 and I decided that buying it would be 
one of my better mistakes this week.  We’ll see how the IQ works out.  If it is 
as good as my Tamron 18-250 was it should definitely be adequate.  I do wish it 
were weather sealed, but I’m less likely to ride my bike in the rain.

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Re: K-70 problem?

[P. J. Alling]

Thanks that makes me feel better...

I think.

On 3/24/2021 9:46 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 24 Mar 2021, at 13:40, P. J. Alling  wrote:

by the way that should be "plastic shells" not sells and I'm not sure whether 
I should blame my spell checker or not...

I blame your shell checker.
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Re: K-70 problem?

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by the way that should be "plastic shells" not sells and I'm not sure 
whether I should blame my spell checker or not...


On 3/24/2021 9:28 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Pentax or should I say Ricoh, has limited manufacturing capacity, and 
it's quite possible that all the K-70 cameras that will be built have 
already been built to free up capacity to build the new K-3III.  So 
while I would expect that K-70s built earlier should in theory already 
be sold, and the ones selling now would be later builds, but you never 
know.


The K-P is by all accounts a very nice, image maker.  It's build 
quality is of the K-5II and K3/K3II level rather than the plastic 
sells of Pentax lower mid range cameras.


My problem with it is more marketing, it's sold as a very compact SLR 
while in reality it's not really any smaller than a K-5, and the 
replaceable hand grips take up the space that could hold a bigger 
battery.  As a result battery performance more resembles a mirrorless 
camera rather than a DSLR.  So I'd invest in at least an extra battery 
or two.


On 3/24/2021 6:16 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
Certainly my final word on this. I've read a lot of reviews and forum 
posts, many of which give anecdotal evidence in opposing directions. 
It therefore remains unclear, to me at least, whether K-70s that are 
currently being constructed or even a subset of them have this 
problem. I emailed Pentax about the K-70 shutter mechanism and their 
reply simply stated "We are not aware of that issue."


Whilst of course a new K-70 may be fine, I decided not to risk it. I 
bought a KP, or rather my wife bought it and it is waiting for me for 
my birthday, or rather I'm waiting impatiently for it...


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Re: K-70 problem?

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Pentax or should I say Ricoh, has limited manufacturing capacity, and 
it's quite possible that all the K-70 cameras that will be built have 
already been built to free up capacity to build the new K-3III.  So 
while I would expect that K-70s built earlier should in theory already 
be sold, and the ones selling now would be later builds, but you never 
know.


The K-P is by all accounts a very nice, image maker.  It's build quality 
is of the K-5II and K3/K3II level rather than the plastic sells of 
Pentax lower mid range cameras.


My problem with it is more marketing, it's sold as a very compact SLR 
while in reality it's not really any smaller than a K-5, and the 
replaceable hand grips take up the space that could hold a bigger 
battery.  As a result battery performance more resembles a mirrorless 
camera rather than a DSLR.  So I'd invest in at least an extra battery 
or two.


On 3/24/2021 6:16 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
Certainly my final word on this. I've read a lot of reviews and forum 
posts, many of which give anecdotal evidence in opposing directions. 
It therefore remains unclear, to me at least, whether K-70s that are 
currently being constructed or even a subset of them have this 
problem. I emailed Pentax about the K-70 shutter mechanism and their 
reply simply stated "We are not aware of that issue."


Whilst of course a new K-70 may be fine, I decided not to risk it. I 
bought a KP, or rather my wife bought it and it is waiting for me for 
my birthday, or rather I'm waiting impatiently for it...


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Re: for discussion

[P. J. Alling]

I'm not at all sure what that question means, but:

Unless I'm shooting something like a still life, or a formal portrait, 
or made a conscious effort to shoot something special, my process which 
includes my thought process is;


    1.) I see something I want to photograph.

    2.) Do I have equipment with me that allow me to at least 
approximate my supposed vision.


If not, and I have a camera with me but not a lens conducive to what I 
want to do, and with a smart phone who doesn't, I may snap a couple of 
shots anyway, examine them later, decide they're crap, and forget about 
them.


If I do have something approximating the right equipment with me, if 
it's a fleeting moment;


    3a.) I'll snap a couple of pictures, and if when I examine them 
later if I see something that might be worthwhile, I'll play with it a 
while in Photoshop, maybe get something that's acceptable, otherwise 
decide they're crap and forget about them.


If it's not a fleeting moment;

   3b.) I'll move around the subject, take a few images from different 
angles, and different exposures, though, different exposures aren't 
really that necessary with the K-5II or K-3, as the files are really 
malleable, examine them later and play with the better ones in 
Photoshop, maybe post one or two, or decide they're crap and forget 
about them.


So the answer is I guess little of both, but the philosophical question 
really has no particular meaning, it's through my agency that the 
photograph gets made, but after a couple glasses of whisky or pretty 
much any alcoholic beverage, I'll be happy to discuss it with you, 
mostly because I'm human and humans like to talk, even a borderline 
recluse like me.


On 3/23/2021 10:20 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

My philosophical question of the year, do we go and look for a photo or
does the photo look for us.??

Dave the confused camera guy


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Re: K30mm 2.8 video review

[P. J. Alling]

I thought the video was good, but then again I mostly agree with 
everything you said about the 30mm.


On 3/20/2021 3:41 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

Hi PDML,

I've been teaching myself how to shoot and edit videos. I'm bad at it!

Anyway I've been making short lens reviews. It's a way to force myself to
use a lens consistently over a few weeks, and in the meantime learn how to
do product shots, and script, narrate and edit a video. It's harder than it
seems and I've gained a lot of respect for people who make it seem easy.

I just posted my third video, first of a Pentax lens. Take a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgt5Ebs4j0A

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Re: Kitchen abstract

[P. J. Alling]

Very interesting, kind of pretty, and I don't think there's enough hot 
water in the world that would allow me to eat from that bowl.


On 3/12/2021 12:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Here’s another of my kitchen abstracts:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51028029016/in/album-72157718616037672/

slightly less abstract, but still geometric
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51027312608/in/album-72157718616037672/

Comments and suggestions always appreciated

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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

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I used to use a technique of stepped up resolution in smallish 
increments of 10% per iteration using bi-cubic sharpening on good well 
exposed *ist-D images.  Then place a layer containing an actual scan of 
film grain on top to add some false detail.  With the right subject, and 
a good well exposed image, and not pushing it too far, maybe going to 
something between 9mp and 12mp, they didn't look too bad printed fairly 
large.  I even created a couple of Photoshop actions to do most of the 
grunt work.


On 3/17/2021 5:15 AM, Alan C wrote:
Automatically upgrade a *1stD 6Mp to K3 24Mp capabillty. K1 to 144Mp! 
I've been reading too much science fiction.


Alan C

On 17-Mar-21 09:02 AM, Toine wrote:

Sure from 32 to 104 MB. I don't see any difference in detail in the
picture. The reviewer on dpreview claimed his jaw dropped on the
floor. My jaw didn't.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 22:03, Bill  wrote:

On 3/16/2021 1:43 PM, Toine wrote:

Tried that with camera raw on several of my KP images. It's the same
option which is included in Lightroom CC. I don't see any difference:
I can see something has changed but it's more between my ears and not
in my eyes.

You didn't catch that your 24mp image was suddenly 96mp?

bill



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Re: Rejoined PDML

[P. J. Alling]

Keith Richards isn't really older than dirt, he only looks it.

On 3/16/2021 1:28 PM, John wrote:
We should start thinking now what kind of world we're going to be 
leaving Keith Richards.


On 3/15/2021 14:15:53, Bill wrote:

On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

The only winners are the lawyers.


I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches 
as the last surviving species.


bill


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The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but
it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. 
There's a

lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70,
some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a 
Pentax

representative who apparently stated the mechanism in the K-70 was
different. It's a confused picture.

Alistair

On 15/03/2021 04:00 pm, Bill wrote:



Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax:
Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the 
Aperture Block

problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided
that I
didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - 
especially
one that would probably appear a month after the warranty 
ended. K-70

order cancelled!


Why buy a Pentax at all if they're all so much trouble?

Ralf


Aperture block failure is a big enough problem that there is a class
action lawsuit about it in the USA.

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Re: Precision Camera

[P. J. Alling]

The "Precision" in their name is a joke and has been since 1974. KEH 
does repairs too, probably charges as much but I think I trust them more.


On 3/15/2021 3:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

As you might remember, last July, while I was photographing comet Neowise my 
K-1 crapped out.   This was particularly frustrating because this was pretty 
much exactly what I bought the K-1 for and while I was able to get some decent 
shots with the K-3ii, it wasn’t quite up to the performance of the K-1.  I sent 
it off to Precision, then had to wait a couple months for the camera to return. 
 Last weekend I noticed that the lens release button was sticking and my lens 
wouldn’t reliably latch in place.  I sent them a note and got the reply:  It’s 
out of warranty, you can try cleaning it, but if it doesn’t work you have to 
send it in (for I presume the full $390 for a simple cleaning).

Long story short, I was able the clean it, it seems to work.  Precision is 
lucky they have a monopoly.



On Mar 15, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Trish Ferron  wrote:

Hello Larry,
Thank you for your email.  Unfortuantely your camera is not covered under 
warranty any longer.  We offer a 90 day warranty period from the ship date.  
However, I did speak to the technician and his recommendation is below.

We would recommend the customers uses a toothbrush and a little denatured 
alcohol or Windex.

Two things are very important.

Keep body cover on the camera.
Have the camera facing down while doing so.

He doesn't want to get the denatured alcohol or Windex in the camera anywhere 
else. If this doesn't work, he will have to send it back in.

Thank you,
Trish


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Phone: 860-272-2100


From: Larry Colen 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 6:29 PM
To: Trish Ferron 
Subject: Re: Precision Camera Repair Tag 4706472
  
The lens release button on my recently repaired K-1 has started getting a bit sticky. When I attach a lens, it doesn’t always entirely latch and I may need to fiddle with the release button to get it to latch.


1) Is this something that is covered under the repair warranty?

2) Is this something that would be easily solved with a drop of graphite or 
triflow lube on the (edge of the)
  release button?

What would be involved in getting this fixed?

While I certainly don’t want to have a lens fall off because I didn’t notice 
that it failed to latch in place, I’m also not really thrilled about the cost 
of shipping and having my camera out of commission for another month or so 
after already going without it for a month and a half last summer.

Larry


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Re: Advances in DSLR development (AI)

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I'm going to be flip here, If I wanted my camera to think for me I'd get 
a Sony.


That's not to say that Pentax auto focus is not among the least 
sophisticated, of all the manufactures, but, really part of the joy of 
photography is learning your equipment and subject to the point that you 
get the pictures you want.


About 20 years ago I spent a couple of hours at a baseball spring 
training camp in Florida, on the 3rd base line, shooting batting 
practice with an LX and a M* 300mm f4.0, by the end, I was able to get 
photos of the ball just as it came off the bat still deformed by the 
hit.  I have the negatives somewhere, and should probably scan them.


It was a fun and interesting exercise, today I would bet someone with a 
Sony A9 would just machine gun at 20 frames/sec., load all the raw files 
into editing software and scan to find the images I taught myself to get 
in a single frame, while relying on the camera to focus and set the 
proper exposure.  Now that doesn't sound like much fun or satisfaction 
to me.


The amazing part, actually, is that I just walked in, set up, shot my 
pictures, and no one even questioned me.  Somehow I doubt that would 
happen today.


On 3/15/2021 11:10 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

I have owned Pentax DSLRs since 2008 (K200D) and I know that many here have
been invested in digital Pentax even longer. The main appeal to me, at the
time, was:
* Extensive Weather/Dust Sealing
* Used standard AA rechargeable batteries
* Pentax did not change the flange to focal plane distance or mount
compatibility, so I could use any previous Pentax-compatible lenses,
including m42
* In-body Image Stabilization (meaning those older manual focus lenses now
"come with" IS)

I've since owned the K-x (first Sony Exmor sensor and a huge leap in
image/noise quality).
K-5, K-5ii, K-3, and current K-3ii.
The O-GPS1 followed by the integrated AstroTracer was a brilliant
innovation to leverage the sensor control inherent in the in-body image
stabilization system.

Autofocus has long been the weak link in the Pentax ecosystem, but also the
least important to me (as my attitude has been that photographers achieved
great things without it for a very long time).

I have not kept up on Pentax news (as far as what they are possibly hinting
at for the future) but there is one very significant development that has
my attention:
Adding a 2nd processor that is dedicated only to the autofocus. This allows
deep learning algorithms to be applied to the autofocus system, such as
Canon's amazing wildlife eye-detection AF. By all accounts, Sony introduced
the concept, but Canon has surpassed it with their recent EOS R5 and now R6
models.

If you are a bird photographer, this is an absolute gamechanger as you can
no longer blame your camera's AF for OOF shots. See:
https://www.techradar.com/news/24-hours-with-the-canon-eos-r5-a-wildlife-photographer-gives-his-verdict

YouTube has a lot of videos on the R6, as well. I don't have the money to
sink into changing systems, at this point. But I have never even considered
it until this development.

The use of AI/neural networks/deep learning is something that is going to
have applications everywhere. Our software developer at work is currently
training a system to recognize nail head in a board, which will help
automate wall panel sheathing on our modular framing tables & sheathing
bridges. It has also been used to train human-like chess bots by feeding
them games of play at different chess player ratings.

I have no idea if Ricoh/Pentax is working in this area, but if they are not
they are missing a Big Boat.

Respectfully,
Darren Addy
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Re: Enablement (and PESO)

[P. J. Alling]

It is what Mike Johnston, and I seldom agree with Mike Johnston, would 
call a camera at the point of "sufficiency".   Which is one of the 
things that are killing the Photo equipment manufacturing industry.  
It's got more resolution than most people need, more dynamic range than 
most people understand, decent though not spectacular auto focus and a 
solid build that feels good in the hand.  The biggest competitor to a 
manufactures new camera is that manufactures product from two too three 
generations back, and with digital gear the price drop is nothing short 
of stupefying over a couple of generations.  Oh, and a really decent 
viewfinder.


On 3/15/2021 4:01 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:28 AM, David Mann  wrote:

It's been a long time since I bought anything photographic but I recently found 
a used K5ii at a reasonable price, and it arrived today.  This is a big upgrade 
from my K10D.

yes, the K-5 was the first Pentax body that I owned which I felt the sensor 
performance was over the threshold of “good enough that I would only *want* 
rather than *need* to upgrade.

I went outside and took a couple of photos just after my daughter went to bed 
but the light was getting a bit low.  No problem, I can crank up the ISO :)

This was taken with the FA*200mm f/2.8 at 6400ISO, 1/125 at f/5.0 handheld, 
very much reliant on shake reduction.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1096/#peso

Very nice photo.


I'll check whether it's on the latest firmware soon.  To their credit, Ricoh's 
website made the manual and firmware very easy to find.

Cheers,
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Re: Rejoined PDML

[P. J. Alling]

The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a 
failure.  So you're probably safe with a K-70.


On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture 
Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports 
of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I 
think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular 
the fully articulated screen, which I find useful on my Lumix bridge 
camera. It would be very disappointing if Pentax is still putting out 
cameras with a known dodgy solenoid.


I'll keep you updated if it appears - I won't be happy.

Alistair

On 13/03/2021 09:26 pm, Brian W wrote:
Welcome back.  I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - 
but memory

isn't a strong point at my age :-)

Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture 
Block"
which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70.  It 
might be worth

considering a KP or even a lightly used K-5 II or K-5 IIs.

Cheers
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On 13 March 2021 at 22:06 Alistair Lax  wrote:


I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax 
more. I

might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And should
I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have more 
time?
A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will probably 
suit,

but I must do more research.

I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the history
of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid 
fascination,

but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.

BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

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Re: Rejoined PDML

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Well Everyone else was just clowning around, so I'll be serious, maybe.  
I think there is still a digest version, Upgrading the K20D is well 
worth it, any Pentax made after it will have better high ISO capability, 
and much better and better faster auto focus.


On 3/13/2021 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax wrote:
I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence 
would have been noticeable as I was mainly a lurker. Work became too 
busy and the bridge camera was more portable than the K20D when weight 
was an issue. However the Lumix's focussing is too slow for a fast 
moving 2 year old grandson, and it's been good to use the Pentax more. 
I might even be tempted to put batteries and film in the LX... And 
should I upgrade the K20D, now that I am retired and supposedly have 
more time? A better low light sensor would be good and the K-70 will 
probably suit, but I must do more research.


I recognise many of the same names as 10 years ago, some of whom I met 
at the 2005 London PDML at Borough Market and the London Eye. I'm 
enjoying not just the Pentax discussions and photos, but of course the 
eclectic OT discussions ranging from US domestic voltages to Covid-19 
antibody responses. As a microbiologist with an interest in the 
history of disease, the horrors of the past year have held a morbid 
fascination, but hopefully we will all be safely allowed out soon.


BTW, is there still a digest version?

back to lurking

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Re: PESO: Mid Day Snow

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Well, New England has a Nor'easter going on right now, about 8 or so 
inches on the ground so far with high winds and drifting, probably a 
fair few hours of storm left for Connecticut, don't know how much of the 
forecast to actually believe as a few years ago I remember shoveling 
quite a few inches of partly cloudy so I could move my car.  But, it 
isn't supposed to end until late tomorrow afternoon...


On 2/1/2021 4:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

We had 2 inches of sleet on the ground in Philly this morning; then it 
“slushed” and rained for about an hour; and now it’s snowing.

Rick


On Feb 1, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

Am 01.02.21 um 19:23 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:

This is what our deck looked like mid morning.  It is still snowing hard.

Enviable. We've had 1/4 of an inch for a few hours this winter.

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Re: Panodrama

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On 1/29/2021 2:56 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 07:21:56PM +, Bob Pdml wrote:

My camera (Fuji X100) somehow put itself into panorama mode, so I had no choice 
- I couldn???t figure out how to put it back to normal.

IIRC those cameras can do automatic multi-exposure stitching to create panoramas; the 
settings for that are under the "DRIVE" menus (though why it's still called 
that when there's no drive motor for actual film movement is a good question ...)

Tradition...

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PESO -- Circular Waterfall 2021 Fish Eye

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So I got around to re-rendering the new Circular Waterfall image using 
actual fisheye functionality.  Here it is:


http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--CircularWaterfall2021fe.html

for those who want to compare without going back to my original post:

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--CircularWaterfall2021.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/PENTAX DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED (IF) Fish-Eye Zoom

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PESO -- Circular Waterfall 2021 & an enablement.

[P. J. Alling]

I guess this is kind of and enablement post as well as a PESO. Ever 
since the destruction of my funky, 60's vintage Sigma* 12mm semi 
circular fish eye, which was pretty much a full frame fisheye on APS-C 
digital, I've been on the lookout for a good deal on a fisheye lens to 
use on my K-3 and K-5II.  A couple of weeks ago I was able to get a Like 
New in Box copy of the Pentax DA 10-17mm Fish Eye zoom and decided to 
test it out at Chatfield Hollow State Park, on their Circular Water 
Feature.  It was bitterly cold but the lens and camera didn't disappoint 
me, even if the rendering software did.


I've discovered something really annoying about DXO Optics Pro 9.  When 
applying corrections to the afore mentioned 10-17mm, it seriously 
defishes it by default.  I don't know how to tell it to not do this 
except by removing the lens correction module.  I'm going to contact DxO 
and ask them if they understand the point of a fish eye lens, because 
they apparently don't.


I'm too tired right now to try how to figure out how to get the full 
fish eye effect, so you'll just have to put up with the defished image 
for now.


http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--CircularWaterfall2021.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/PENTAX DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED (IF) Fish-Eye Zoom.

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PESO -- Chapman Falls: Winter 2021

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I revisited Chapman Falls in the Devils Hopyard State Park, in East 
Haddam, Connecticut.  Less snow this year than two years ago, it makes 
for a better photo I think.  Almost monochrome.


http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--ChapmanFallsWinter2021.html

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Re: PESO -- The other side.

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Here's the first side...

http://webster26.epizy.com/pdml/PESO--theInfamousShoreBuilding.html


On 1/21/2021 2:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

It’s a nice photo, but as is my wont, it seems that I’ve been paying attention 
to the wrong things



On Jan 20, 2021, at 2:46 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

If you've been paying attention, you'll get the title.

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--TheOtherSide.html

Note: A simple panoramic crop.

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PESO -- Winter Trees II

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http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--WinterTreesII.html

Wow two PESOs in one day.

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Re: Streaming

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In Pentax?  Probably the K-70 but none of them are really good for 
movies.  I think I'd invest in a Panasonic, some of which are quite good 
and old enough to be inexpensive.


On 1/19/2021 10:22 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

Which bodies are suitable for streaming content ?

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PESO -- The other side.

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If you've been paying attention, you'll get the title.

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--TheOtherSide.html

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Re: PESO: Fog

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That's nice, it's really too bad it didn't make it into the PUG.

On 1/10/2021 12:23 PM, Toine wrote:

To late for the PUG:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-033-img4519

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PESO -- The Tree in the Phone Box.

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Presented without comment.

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--TheTreeInThePhoneBox.html

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Re: OT Danish kid's TV

[P. J. Alling]

The fact that the Danes think this is appropriate for children's 
television, is hilarious, because I must laugh at the absurdity or I 
would surly cry about the idiocy.


On 1/7/2021 1:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Not only might be construed as NSFW - it's positively eyewatering.

https://www.dr.dk/drtv/episode/john-dillermand_-john-dillermand_227290


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Re: LR6. Issues

[P. J. Alling]

Only if you look above the knee...

On 12/27/2020 11:38 AM, Postmaster wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


I get miffed trying to locate thighs that LR just
has out in the open.

So you're saying the old software still has some legs left in it?


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PESO -- I am the Resurrection and the Life

[P. J. Alling]

Another image from yesterday.  I find these Victorian era Cemetery gates 
quite interesting, and the mood fits both the previous image and 
Christmas as well when you think about it.


http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--iAmTheReserectionAndTheLife.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/Sigma EX 10-20mm f3.5.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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